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| Started by | chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> |
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| First post | 2018-10-26 08:02 -0500 |
| Last post | 2018-10-27 16:31 -0700 |
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OT: The Micro$oft mentality chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-26 08:02 -0500
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-26 07:16 -0700
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-10-26 12:24 -0400
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-26 09:49 -0700
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-10-26 13:37 -0700
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-26 14:13 -0700
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-10-26 19:14 -0400
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-10-27 14:14 -0700
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-27 14:26 -0700
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-29 12:17 -0500
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-29 10:27 -0700
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-10-29 11:08 -0700
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-29 13:18 -0500
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-10-29 12:04 -0700
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-29 14:32 -0500
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-10-29 15:03 -0700
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-30 06:54 -0500
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-30 05:10 -0700
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality fr314159@gmail.com - 2018-10-29 12:45 -0700
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-29 12:54 -0700
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality fr314159@gmail.com - 2018-10-29 13:07 -0700
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-29 13:36 -0700
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-30 07:36 -0700
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-30 07:46 -0700
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-10-29 15:05 -0700
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-29 22:30 +0000
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-29 16:10 -0700
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-10-30 10:45 -0400
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-30 15:00 +0000
LogiTech is the best, and getting better. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-10-30 08:38 -0700
Re: LogiTech is the best, and getting better. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-30 15:48 +0000
Re: LogiTech is the best, and getting better. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-30 11:15 -0500
Re: LogiTech is the best, and getting better. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-30 11:47 -0700
The g600 has Pointer, Middle, and Ring finger buttons. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-10-30 09:30 -0700
Re: The g600 has Pointer, Middle, and Ring finger buttons. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-30 17:14 +0000
The "Ring Finger" button is quite large. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-10-30 10:47 -0700
Re: The g600 has Pointer, Middle, and Ring finger buttons. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-30 10:54 -0700
Re: The g600 has Pointer, Middle, and Ring finger buttons. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-30 11:25 -0700
Re: LogiTech is the best, and getting better. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-30 11:56 -0700
Re: LogiTech is the best, and getting better. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-30 12:42 -0700
Re: LogiTech is the best, and getting better. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-10-30 15:04 -0400
Re: LogiTech is the best, and getting better. DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-10-30 11:58 -0400
I ignore assholes/men. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-10-30 10:14 -0700
Re: I ignore assholes/men. "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-10-30 13:19 -0400
Re: I ignore assholes/men. Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-10-30 12:29 -0700
Re: I ignore assholes/men. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-30 12:58 -0700
Re: I ignore assholes/men. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-30 18:13 -0400
Re: I ignore assholes/men. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-30 15:19 -0700
Re: I ignore assholes/men. Libtard <libtard@sandernistas.edu> - 2018-10-31 03:07 +0000
Re: I ignore assholes/men. Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid> - 2018-10-30 21:31 -0600
Re: I ignore assholes/men. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-30 20:34 -0700
I've no desire to fuck anyone. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-10-30 20:47 -0700
Re: I've no desire to fuck anyone. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-30 21:04 -0700
Re: I've no desire to fuck anyone. Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-10-31 04:11 +0000
Re: I've no desire to fuck anyone. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-30 21:35 -0700
News Flash (not): Nadegda and Libtard lied. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-10-31 04:04 -0700
Re: News Flash (not): Nadegda and Libtard lied. onion@anon.invalid (Mr On!on) - 2018-10-31 11:22 +0000
Re: News Flash (not): Nadegda and Libtard lied. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-31 04:53 -0700
Re: News Flash (not): Nadegda and Libtard lied. Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2018-10-31 04:58 -0700
Re: News Flash (not): Nadegda and Libtard lied. onion@anon.invalid (Mr On!on) - 2018-10-31 12:12 +0000
Re: News Flash (not): Nadegda and Libtard lied. Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2018-10-31 06:26 -0700
Re: News Flash (not): Nadegda and Libtard lied. onion@anon.invalid (Mr On!on) - 2018-10-31 14:02 +0000
Re: News Flash (not): Nadegda and Libtard lied. Scatboi g8dgc <g8dgc@noneya.none> - 2018-10-31 10:04 -0400
Re: News Flash (not): Nadegda and Libtard lied. Scatboitoy g8dgc <g8dgc@noneya.none> - 2018-10-31 10:25 -0400
Re: News Flash (not): Nadegda and Libtard lied. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-31 07:45 -0700
Re: News Flash (not): Nadegda and Libtard lied. onion@anon.invalid (Mr On!on) - 2018-10-31 14:26 +0000
Re: News Flash (not): Nadegda and Libtard lied. Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2018-10-31 08:20 -0700
Re: News Flash (not): Nadegda and Libtard lied. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-31 08:48 -0700
Re: News Flash (not): Nadegda and Libtard lied. Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-10-31 11:45 -0700
Re: News Flash (not): Nadegda and Libtard lied. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-31 04:22 -0700
Re: News Flash (not): Nadegda and Libtard lied. SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-31 08:58 -0400
Re: News Flash (not): Nadegda and Libtard lied. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-31 06:26 -0700
Re: News Flash (not): Nadegda and Libtard lied. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-31 06:58 -0700
How much are girls paying to fuck funky geezers these days ? Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-10-31 07:29 -0700
Re: How much are girls paying to fuck funky geezers these days ? kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-31 11:30 -0400
Re: How much are girls paying to fuck funky geezers these days ? SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-31 12:30 -0400
Re: How much are girls paying to fuck funky geezers these days ? Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-10-31 11:52 -0500
Re: How much are girls paying to fuck funky geezers these days ? benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-31 17:37 -0400
Re: How much are girls paying to fuck funky geezers these days ? Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-10-31 21:53 +0000
Re: How much are girls paying to fuck funky geezers these days ? SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-01 11:00 -0400
Re: How much are girls paying to fuck funky geezers these days ? Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-11-01 18:12 +0000
Re: How much are girls paying to fuck funky geezers these days ? Skeeter <chico@invalid.invalid> - 2018-11-01 15:45 -0600
Re: How much are girls paying to fuck funky geezers these days ? turkey <turkey@invalid.none> - 2018-11-01 17:53 -0400
Re: How much are girls paying to fuck funky geezers these days ? Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-01 15:02 -0700
Re: How much are girls paying to fuck funky geezers these days ? Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-01 15:33 -0700
Re: How much are girls paying to fuck funky geezers these days ? Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-31 21:50 -0700
Re: How much are girls paying to fuck funky geezers these days ? SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-01 10:59 -0400
Re: I've no desire to fuck anyone. benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2018-10-31 12:00 -0400
Re: I've no desire to fuck anyone. Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2018-10-31 21:40 +0000
Re: I ignore assholes/men. Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-10-30 22:38 -0700
Re: I ignore assholes/men. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-30 23:09 -0700
Re: I ignore assholes/men. snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-10-31 08:52 +0000
Re: I ignore assholes/men. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-31 02:18 -0700
Re: LogiTech is the best, and getting better. SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-30 18:32 -0400
Re: LogiTech is the best, and getting better. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-30 17:40 -0700
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-10-29 23:52 +0000
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-10-29 23:39 -0400
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-29 21:08 -0700
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-30 02:04 -0700
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality Hadron Quark <hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2018-10-31 00:33 +0100
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-10-31 15:05 -0400
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-01 07:12 -0500
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-30 00:30 -0700
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-30 05:41 -0700
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-30 06:59 -0500
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-10-30 06:18 -0700
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-30 08:40 -0500
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-30 07:30 -0700
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-10-30 07:32 -0700
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-10-30 10:22 -0400
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-30 14:43 +0000
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-10-30 07:46 -0700
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-30 14:58 +0000
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-10-30 11:15 -0400
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-30 15:24 +0000
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-30 10:19 -0500
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-10-30 12:39 -0400
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality Hadron Quark <hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2018-10-31 00:32 +0100
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-30 20:02 -0700
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-31 07:16 -0500
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-10-31 07:00 -0700
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-31 09:19 -0500
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-10-31 09:14 -0700
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-31 09:35 -0700
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-31 12:11 -0500
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-31 10:21 -0700
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-10-31 10:34 -0700
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-31 10:37 -0700
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-31 12:48 -0500
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-31 10:54 -0700
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-31 11:09 -0700
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-10-31 11:56 -0700
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-31 14:07 -0500
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-10-31 13:58 -0700
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-31 14:18 -0700
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality Hadron Quark <hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2018-11-02 12:15 +0100
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-02 04:33 -0700
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-03 01:43 -0700
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-03 07:41 -0700
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-03 22:15 -0700
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-11-03 16:19 -0400
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-03 15:29 -0700
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-04 05:33 -0800
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-04 03:13 -0800
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-05 08:01 -0600
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-31 12:13 -0700
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-31 10:17 -0700
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-11-02 14:28 -0400
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-10-31 15:04 -0400
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-01 07:05 -0500
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-01 05:23 -0700
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-01 07:50 -0500
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-01 07:38 -0700
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-26 16:34 -0700
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-29 07:53 -0500
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-10-29 06:27 -0700
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-29 12:42 -0400
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-10-30 10:52 -0400
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-30 08:33 -0700
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-10-26 23:00 +0000
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-26 16:18 -0700
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-27 00:03 +0000
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-26 17:22 -0700
Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-27 16:31 -0700
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| From | -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> |
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| Date | 2018-10-31 07:00 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality |
| Message-ID | <2401375b-c2b4-47d9-a2f3-51e772873857@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #474484 |
On Wednesday, October 31, 2018 at 8:16:59 AM UTC-4, chrisv wrote:
> Hadron Quark wrote:
>
> > some dumb fsck wrote:
> >>
> >> ("my daughter is a dullard")v wrote:
> >>>
> >>> or go with the designed-for-morons Mac.
> >>
> >> If you hang around cola another 15 years you might say something right for a
> >> change, turd.
>
> I'm almost always right, Dumfsck, and it's already been explained to
> you that "dullards stay with Windows or Mac" DOES NOT EQUAL "no smart
> people use Windows or Mac".
>
> I mean, really. Who is *stupid* enough to not be able to figure that
> out for themselves?
But just what then are the overall connotations of this sort of
claimed observation, if we are going to go into the permutations?
For example, the precedent above also then has to include:
a) "dullards stay with Windows or Mac" DOES NOT EQUAL "only
smart people use Linux".
b) "dullards stay with Windows or Mac" DOES NOT EQUAL "any
smart people use Linux".
c) etc
Even though we all can plainly see that these sorts of l33t
advocacy statements was an intent of the original statement.
Similarly, are there other valid statements, such as because
of the difference between "stay" and "use"? Such as:
d) "dullards stay with Windows or Mac" equates to "dullards
stay with only a single OS" --> which means that it could be
rewritten as: "dullards stay with Windows, Mac or Linux"
-hh
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| From | chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-10-31 09:19 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality |
| Message-ID | <utdjtdpt81k1ohgrqhoddf1u76j5i1ng3i@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #474500 |
-hh wrote: >Even though we all can plainly see that these sorts of l33t >advocacy statements was an intent of the original statement. Well, there is no doubt, in my mind, that the average Linux user is smarter than the average Windows or Mac user. Only idiots extend statements like the above to illogical conclusions such as "everyone who doesn't use Linux is stupid (or ignorant)". -- "And what this also means is that the allegations and insinuations that 98% of the world are ignorant boobs is way, way off base" - lying asshole "-hh"
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| From | -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> |
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| Date | 2018-10-31 09:14 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality |
| Message-ID | <0bad0d4d-aa2a-43d6-92ab-34bdc2ad4487@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #474504 |
On Wednesday, October 31, 2018 at 10:19:30 AM UTC-4, chrisv wrote: > -hh wrote: > > >Even though we all can plainly see that these sorts of l33t > >advocacy statements was an intent of the original statement. > > Well, there is no doubt, in my mind, that the average Linux > user is smarter than the average Windows or Mac user. That's nice, but data trumps faith. There is data that says that iOS vs Android correlates to the iOS customers having a higher income. Ditto for Mac vs PC, again in favor of Apple. There's also data that says that intelligence is a predictor of success, including income: <https://www.forbes.com/sites/adriankingsleyhughes/2012/06/26/mac-users-have-money-to-spare-says-orbitz/> <https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2015/09/16/is-iq-a-predictor-of-success/> And even one that says both (smarter & wealthier): <http://vaultfeed.com/study-finds-that-iphone-users-are-smarter-and-wealthier-then-samsung-users/> As such, the faith statement appears to be on quite weak ground. Granted, these studies for desktop are typically "Mac vs PC" and Linux is ignored, so there may be some hope for your hypothesis. But until there's actual data, its merely wishful thinking on your part, as opposed to scientifically verified. > Only idiots extend statements like the above to illogical conclusions > such as "everyone who doesn't use Linux is stupid (or ignorant)". And yet wasn't that the real underlying intent of the original "dullards stay with Windows or Mac" statement? Particularly since if the actual intent was to say "being willing to try new things is what smart people do", then why not say that? What valid reason is there to call out Windows or Mac OSs if not to try to denigrate them by comparative inference because it gets implied that "non-dullards" don't stay? -hh
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| From | Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-10-31 09:35 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality |
| Message-ID | <a24f2624-abab-465c-9377-5b1d65223cf1@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #474518 |
On Wednesday, October 31, 2018 at 9:15:00 AM UTC-7, -hh wrote: > On Wednesday, October 31, 2018 at 10:19:30 AM UTC-4, chrisv wrote: > > -hh wrote: > > > > >Even though we all can plainly see that these sorts of l33t > > >advocacy statements was an intent of the original statement. > > > > Well, there is no doubt, in my mind, that the average Linux > > user is smarter than the average Windows or Mac user. > > That's nice, but data trumps faith. > > There is data that says that iOS vs Android correlates to the > iOS customers having a higher income. Ditto for Mac vs PC, > again in favor of Apple. There's also data that says that > intelligence is a predictor of success, including income: > > <https://www.forbes.com/sites/adriankingsleyhughes/2012/06/26/mac-users-have-money-to-spare-says-orbitz/> > <https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2015/09/16/is-iq-a-predictor-of-success/> > > And even one that says both (smarter & wealthier): > > <http://vaultfeed.com/study-finds-that-iphone-users-are-smarter-and-wealthier-then-samsung-users/> > > As such, the faith statement appears to be on quite weak ground. > Granted, these studies for desktop are typically "Mac vs PC" and > Linux is ignored, so there may be some hope for your hypothesis. > > But until there's actual data, its merely wishful thinking on > your part, as opposed to scientifically verified. > > > Only idiots extend statements like the above to illogical conclusions > > such as "everyone who doesn't use Linux is stupid (or ignorant)". > > And yet wasn't that the real underlying intent of the original > "dullards stay with Windows or Mac" statement? > > Particularly since if the actual intent was to say "being willing > to try new things is what smart people do", then why not say that? > What valid reason is there to call out Windows or Mac OSs if not > to try to denigrate them by comparative inference because it gets > implied that "non-dullards" don't stay? > > > -hh the Script Troller failed to show a single time of a successful corporation that has gained its position by not giving a hoot about its consumers and wares. Hell, just recently he was declaring himself the only "true Linux advocate", and claiming that "advocates" (in scare-quotes, who he also refers to as "the herd") are trying to rewrite KDE from scratch. the Script Troller should grasp John Gohde knows he is just trolling. Who _ doesn't_ know that this kind of poppycock is the Script Troller's modus operandi, not the modus operandi of John Gohde? It's all just projection... the endless posting, the sock puppets, the writing of incomprehensible idiocy, the tantrums... the false bravado and eagerness to show how flustered he is over being kicked from the playground for pissing in it again... just what the Script Troller does. No-one gets it, I ain't done gone got it. -- What Every Entrepreneur Must Know! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhOfBmWwCVY https://youtu.be/lF8yk7ul4Mw https://youtu.be/VxLiH-x0aeY Jonas Eklundh
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| From | chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-10-31 12:11 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality |
| Message-ID | <elnjtdlp3gg8sigeh2pd0h1lsnbdb41sj8@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #474518 |
-hh wrote: >> Well, there is no doubt, in my mind, that the average Linux >> user is smarter than the average Windows or Mac user. > >That's nice, but data trumps faith. It's too bad, then, that you failed to provide data on the relative intelligence of Linux, Windows, and Mac users, -highhorse. Do you really think that some study comparing iPhone users to Android users applies, here, -highhorse? While there are some intelligent Mac users, you are not among them, -highhorse. >> Only idiots extend statements like the above to illogical conclusions >> such as "everyone who doesn't use Linux is stupid (or ignorant)". > >And yet wasn't that the real underlying intent of the original >"dullards stay with Windows or Mac" statement? It's a different perspective on the situation. I could also state that most Linux users are of above-average intelligence. -- "See, now there's a photo that isn't crap. Well done!' - "-hh", admiring a photo of chrisv's butt
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| From | Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-10-31 10:21 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality |
| Message-ID | <72870e86-1b43-44aa-aae8-e49acc1657d7@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #474527 |
On Wednesday, October 31, 2018 at 10:11:05 AM UTC-7, chrisv wrote: > -hh wrote: > > >> Well, there is no doubt, in my mind, that the average Linux > >> user is smarter than the average Windows or Mac user. > > > >That's nice, but data trumps faith. > > It's too bad, then, that you failed to provide data on the relative > intelligence of Linux, Windows, and Mac users, -highhorse. > > Do you really think that some study comparing iPhone users to Android > users applies, here, -highhorse? > > While there are some intelligent Mac users, you are not among them, > -highhorse. > > >> Only idiots extend statements like the above to illogical conclusions > >> such as "everyone who doesn't use Linux is stupid (or ignorant)". > > > >And yet wasn't that the real underlying intent of the original > >"dullards stay with Windows or Mac" statement? > > It's a different perspective on the situation. I could also state > that most Linux users are of above-average intelligence. > > -- > "See, now there's a photo that isn't crap. Well done!' - "-hh", > admiring a photo of chrisv's butt Pull up a background check on DFS and you will find that he was in the slammer for a long time. I do not know what for. The probes do not go into that degree of detail and legal lists need to be court ordered. Hint: You can not go into a party, chug all the alcohol, bang all the wives, snatch the silverware, and yak in the lap of Steve Carroll without being remembered. In fact DFS's lies became more vile. So as might be expected I regret assisting DFS. While I am sure he appreciated it, I've not helped the situation at all. Enough already. You're again trying to bolster yourself beyond your grade. You're the village idiot and your many poorly done challenges show this. Really, those of you who troll are not able to control MATE anymore. This forum is a leaking porta potty. -- What Every Entrepreneur Must Know https://redd.it/6sfkup Jonas Eklundh
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| From | -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> |
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| Date | 2018-10-31 10:34 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality |
| Message-ID | <b9f82dca-b3a6-43b1-9302-8200884a608f@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #474527 |
On Wednesday, October 31, 2018 at 1:11:05 PM UTC-4, chrisv wrote: > -hh wrote: > > >> Well, there is no doubt, in my mind, that the average Linux > >> user is smarter than the average Windows or Mac user. > > > >That's nice, but data trumps faith. > > It's too bad, then, that you failed to provide data on the relative > intelligence of Linux, Windows, and Mac users, -highhorse. Oh, but it wasn't my claim. It was yours so you're the one responsible to support your assertion. Cite please! Now I've shown what data exists, and what it shows doesn't support your claims at all. As such, the default posture has shifted from "maybe chrisv is right?" to "literature is indicating that chrisv's claim is full of shit." > Do you really think that some study comparing iPhone users > to Android users applies, here, -highhorse? Have COLA advocates tried to claim Android is Linux? Yup. In any event, the point is still that you made a claim that you've been requested to provide substantiating citations for. > While there are some intelligent Mac users, you are not among them, > -highhorse. Gosh, wouldn't it have been far less embarrassing for chrisv to have said that he was just beaten by a highly intelligent person, instead of chrisv being beaten by an idiot? ;-P > >> Only idiots extend statements like the above to illogical conclusions > >> such as "everyone who doesn't use Linux is stupid (or ignorant)". > > > >And yet wasn't that the real underlying intent of the original > >"dullards stay with Windows or Mac" statement? > > It's a different perspective on the situation. I could also state > that most Linux users are of above-average intelligence. Sure, you can say that, but you know that you don't have any proof. Keep that in mind the next time that you try to claim that you're always truthful and honest. > "See, now there's a photo that isn't crap. Well done!' - "-hh", > admiring a photo of chrisv's butt After his manipulation of chrisv to go run around and take even more pictures of stupid stuff...so then, just who's really the one with "above-average intelligence"? -hh
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| From | Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-10-31 10:37 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality |
| Message-ID | <cd4b79cb-c1f8-4fd7-bb65-e8a913bc8006@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #474536 |
On Wednesday, October 31, 2018 at 10:34:13 AM UTC-7, -hh wrote: > On Wednesday, October 31, 2018 at 1:11:05 PM UTC-4, chrisv wrote: > > -hh wrote: > > > > >> Well, there is no doubt, in my mind, that the average Linux > > >> user is smarter than the average Windows or Mac user. > > > > > >That's nice, but data trumps faith. > > > > It's too bad, then, that you failed to provide data on the relative > > intelligence of Linux, Windows, and Mac users, -highhorse. > > Oh, but it wasn't my claim. It was yours so you're the > one responsible to support your assertion. > > Cite please! > > Now I've shown what data exists, and what it shows doesn't > support your claims at all. As such, the default posture > has shifted from "maybe chrisv is right?" to "literature > is indicating that chrisv's claim is full of shit." > > > > Do you really think that some study comparing iPhone users > > to Android users applies, here, -highhorse? > > Have COLA advocates tried to claim Android is Linux? Yup. > > In any event, the point is still that you made a claim that > you've been requested to provide substantiating citations for. > > > > While there are some intelligent Mac users, you are not among them, > > -highhorse. > > Gosh, wouldn't it have been far less embarrassing for chrisv to > have said that he was just beaten by a highly intelligent person, > instead of chrisv being beaten by an idiot? ;-P > > > > >> Only idiots extend statements like the above to illogical conclusions > > >> such as "everyone who doesn't use Linux is stupid (or ignorant)". > > > > > >And yet wasn't that the real underlying intent of the original > > >"dullards stay with Windows or Mac" statement? > > > > It's a different perspective on the situation. I could also state > > that most Linux users are of above-average intelligence. > > Sure, you can say that, but you know that you don't have any proof. > > Keep that in mind the next time that you try to claim that you're > always truthful and honest. > > > > "See, now there's a photo that isn't crap. Well done!' - "-hh", > > admiring a photo of chrisv's butt > > After his manipulation of chrisv to go run around and take even > more pictures of stupid stuff...so then, just who's really the > one with "above-average intelligence"? > > > > -hh After ignoring all the nyms from Klaus Schadenfreude, it's essentially just two of them posting almost all of the trolling. Obviously. And both fully certifiable crackpots. By the way, taking effort potentially building wisdom isn't wasted time. Thinking you know more than everyone else and taking it on yourself to 'prove' Steven Petruzzellis that it is true? That is a waste ;) Only what Klaus Schadenfreude wants matters to Klaus Schadenfreude. There is nothing you or I can do to change that. It's a medical issue and it is what it is. These morons get their enjoyment out of drawing out emotional reactions to their crap, which is the very definition of a troll. See: I quoted examples of Klaus Schadenfreude failing to rise up and instead putting others down -- flooding every group I post to, etc. His response: to troll Steven Petruzzellis. The cult-like herd of convenient friends value the LCD in all things. Think about it, who knows C, is an avid scripter, has stolen Steven Petruzzellis's account, has an obsession and is a gigantic whining redneck who posts endless nonsense even when he's _not_ flooding... AND... who tries to attributes everything _he_ is doing on "advocates" and has for over a decade? -- Do not click this link!!! http://www.5z8.info/mercenary_w5v9dl_open.exe http://www.5z8.info/boobs_j0v3qo_dont-just-drizzle Jonas Eklundh
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| From | chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-10-31 12:48 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality |
| Message-ID | <29qjtdpli59tbv2h0e4v0es9n7l1phc3un@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #474536 |
-hh wrote: >chrisv wrote: >> >> -hh wrote: >>> >>>> Well, there is no doubt, in my mind, that the average Linux >>>> user is smarter than the average Windows or Mac user. >>> >>>That's nice, but data trumps faith. >> >> It's too bad, then, that you failed to provide data on the relative >> intelligence of Linux, Windows, and Mac users, -highhorse. > >Oh, but it wasn't my claim. Err, you implied that you had "data" that trumped my "faith", -highhorse. Beaten, you again get ridiculous and not worth reading/rebutting. >It was yours so you're the one responsible to support your assertion. Common-sense reasoning supports my assertion, -highhorse. >Cite please! (snipped, unread) While there are some intelligent Mac users, you are not among them, -highhorse. -- 'All I see is [Snit] asking you and other "advocates" to explain why you think his more researched and consistent "choice" is bad for Linux.' - "Hadron" Quack
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| From | Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-10-31 10:54 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality |
| Message-ID | <21e6c295-34d5-49cd-8dc0-46a09c5305b1@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #474538 |
On Wednesday, October 31, 2018 at 10:48:31 AM UTC-7, chrisv wrote: > -hh wrote: > > >chrisv wrote: > >> > >> -hh wrote: > >>> > >>>> Well, there is no doubt, in my mind, that the average Linux > >>>> user is smarter than the average Windows or Mac user. > >>> > >>>That's nice, but data trumps faith. > >> > >> It's too bad, then, that you failed to provide data on the relative > >> intelligence of Linux, Windows, and Mac users, -highhorse. > > > >Oh, but it wasn't my claim. > > Err, you implied that you had "data" that trumped my "faith", > -highhorse. > > Beaten, you again get ridiculous and not worth reading/rebutting. > > >It was yours so you're the one responsible to support your assertion. > > Common-sense reasoning supports my assertion, -highhorse. > > >Cite please! (snipped, unread) > > While there are some intelligent Mac users, you are not among them, > -highhorse. > > -- > 'All I see is [Snit] asking you and other "advocates" to explain why > you think his more researched and consistent "choice" is bad for > Linux.' - "Hadron" Quack You do, of course realize that the massive floods ending up in multiple groups started out in COLA, right? Klaus 'The Fool' Schadenfreude's cut down on the nonstop self-serving, insane attacks he used to knock off but he is certainly not much different in the truthfulness department. He uses psychological manipulation more now to produce those circuses. You are three seconds away from being in everyone's kill file. Despite all the gloating Klaus 'The Fool' Schadenfreude's done on this topic, the 'College Professor' doesn't get how to do this. It really takes a couple seconds to select a selection and 'reverse' it. Klaus 'The Fool' Schadenfreude is again seen saying "CANNOT BE FOUND" when it comes to information on the Internet where information is there multiple times... but Klaus 'The Fool' Schadenfreude is just too pea-brained and lazy to grasp any info he reads... or he doesn't recognize it as advice even when he does read it. BTW, I've already told him that his use of "herd" to describe COLA denizens is libel, since he's likening them to Mac users. HA! You guys can only understand from the viewpoint of a psychopath. - Eight things to never feed your dog! http://www.5z8.info/killallimmigrants_j6f7mm_gruesome-gunshot-wounds https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.os.linux.advocacy/tzMH39QmAmU http://www.5z8.info/hateminorities_t7l3gt_linked-in-of-sex Jonas Eklundh Communication AB
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| From | Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-10-31 11:09 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality |
| Message-ID | <0567fccd-8822-46fe-b739-5faabb381a95@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #474538 |
On Wednesday, October 31, 2018 at 10:48:31 AM UTC-7, chrisv wrote: > -hh wrote: > > >chrisv wrote: > >> > >> -hh wrote: > >>> > >>>> Well, there is no doubt, in my mind, that the average Linux > >>>> user is smarter than the average Windows or Mac user. > >>> > >>>That's nice, but data trumps faith. > >> > >> It's too bad, then, that you failed to provide data on the relative > >> intelligence of Linux, Windows, and Mac users, -highhorse. > > > >Oh, but it wasn't my claim. > > Err, you implied that you had "data" that trumped my "faith", > -highhorse. > > Beaten, you again get ridiculous and not worth reading/rebutting. > > >It was yours so you're the one responsible to support your assertion. > > Common-sense reasoning supports my assertion, -highhorse. > > >Cite please! (snipped, unread) > > While there are some intelligent Mac users, you are not among them, > -highhorse. > > -- > 'All I see is [Snit] asking you and other "advocates" to explain why > you think his more researched and consistent "choice" is bad for > Linux.' - "Hadron" Quack He disturbs multiple groups of people who are mere civilians, but that's a conceited fool for you. What Klaus Schadenfreude and I care about isn't a factor. Tar is only less expensive if your time has no value. Despite DFS's claim that he has "no enthusiasm in making enemies" (a lie as exposed by the fact that he annoyed everyone in COLA) he was quoted asking programmers how they would automate posting through Google Groups. I thought showing DFS a taste of his own medicine might help the situation. It did not. Do you even believe the bullshit DFS is posting? A flaming bush that never burns, magnified by the reciprocal of the endless vastness of space, demonstrating the vast nothingness of the main character's so-called thought process. I bet we have two different beliefs entirely. - Do not click this link!!! https://redd.it/6sfkup http://www.5z8.info/open.exe_f2s2ea_nazi Jonas Eklundh Communication AB
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| From | -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> |
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| Date | 2018-10-31 11:56 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality |
| Message-ID | <6c3a572b-7790-48bf-8566-328114b62709@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #474538 |
On Wednesday, October 31, 2018 at 1:48:31 PM UTC-4, chrisv wrote: > -hh wrote: > >chrisv wrote: > >> > >> -hh wrote: > >>> > >>>> Well, there is no doubt, in my mind, that the average Linux > >>>> user is smarter than the average Windows or Mac user. > >>> > >>>That's nice, but data trumps faith. > >> > >> It's too bad, then, that you failed to provide data on the relative > >> intelligence of Linux, Windows, and Mac users, -highhorse. > > > >Oh, but it wasn't my claim. > > Err, ... Indeed! > you implied that you had "data" that trumped my "faith", Incorrect: I linked to reports on the subject which had data. You've still not provided any substantiation to support your "in my mind" statement. That lack of material support is what makes it nothing more than a faith statement. > Beaten, you again get ridiculous and not worth reading/rebutting. And yet you read and tried to rebut...who's beating who again? > >It was yours so you're the one responsible to support your assertion. > > Common-sense reasoning supports my assertion, -highhorse. Again, empty words. > >Cite please! (snipped, unread) Second request. -hh
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| From | chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-10-31 14:07 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality |
| Message-ID | <50vjtdte25qob82ds4159k75dqmv5vvo14@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #474550 |
-hh wrote: > (snipped, unread) If you are too stupid to figure it out, -highhorse, it's not my problem. Would you also bicker and demand proof, if I claimed that dullards generally don't become doctors, or engineers, or chess players? Idiot. -- 'Oh, look: a mere "BSEE" is trying to dispute the scientific peer-reviewed behavioral research pubs by a PhD level Psychologist.' -highhorse, putting his idiocy on display
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| From | -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> |
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| Date | 2018-10-31 13:58 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality |
| Message-ID | <29e06f13-217f-46bf-a887-323757ec159d@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #474551 |
On Wednesday, October 31, 2018 at 3:07:52 PM UTC-4, chrisv wrote: > -hh wrote: > > > (snipped, unread) > > If you are too stupid to figure it out, -highhorse, it's not my > problem. > > Would you also bicker and demand proof, if I claimed that dullards > generally don't become doctors, or engineers, or chess players? Well, it depends on just how dumb your statement was, and also assessed by how poor your track record is for veracity. Now for this one, studies have found that medical doctors have IQ's that are 20+ points above the average ... <https://www.iq-test.net/what-is-the-average-iq-of-a-doctor-139.html> <https://www.healthpam.com/medical-doctors-ranked-first-highest-iq-amongst-job-professions/> And the same intelligence trend is also present in Engineering too... <https://qz.com/334926/your-college-major-is-a-pretty-good-indication-of-how-smart-you-are/> As well as in chess... <https://www.acsh.org/news/2017/05/31/do-chess-players-have-higher-iqs-11366> So it looks like you _finally_ avoided making a stupid statement this time ... congratulations! -hh
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| From | Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-10-31 14:18 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality |
| Message-ID | <f3892359-8ab3-4dd5-99e4-be66ce85af3f@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #474570 |
On Wednesday, October 31, 2018 at 1:58:51 PM UTC-7, -hh wrote: > On Wednesday, October 31, 2018 at 3:07:52 PM UTC-4, chrisv wrote: > > -hh wrote: > > > > > (snipped, unread) > > > > If you are too stupid to figure it out, -highhorse, it's not my > > problem. > > > > Would you also bicker and demand proof, if I claimed that dullards > > generally don't become doctors, or engineers, or chess players? > > Well, it depends on just how dumb your statement was, and also > assessed by how poor your track record is for veracity. > > Now for this one, studies have found that medical doctors have IQ's > that are 20+ points above the average ... > > <https://www.iq-test.net/what-is-the-average-iq-of-a-doctor-139.html> > <https://www.healthpam.com/medical-doctors-ranked-first-highest-iq-amongst-job-professions/> > > And the same intelligence trend is also present in Engineering too... > > <https://qz.com/334926/your-college-major-is-a-pretty-good-indication-of-how-smart-you-are/> > > As well as in chess... > > <https://www.acsh.org/news/2017/05/31/do-chess-players-have-higher-iqs-11366> > > So it looks like you _finally_ avoided making a stupid statement > this time ... congratulations! > > > > -hh Generally, I wouldn't call something like Steven Petruzzellis's posts an outright lie until you refute it and he responds with the same thing again with one of his socks. It is obvious that all of them are not automated because some of them are direct responses in very specific ways which proves they are a response, so not from a computer auto-generator. IOW, while some could be automated others are definitely not. Steven Petruzzellis must know that Michael Glasser Snit can go get FileMaker, right, medhead? On top of that, anyone can just ignore him, which renders *his* trolling harmless, just like Steven Petruzzellis ;) Frankly I do not really mind. A sustained, acute, posting itch, regardless of content - like slippery Mac-using tarts, and well-lubricated sheep, scared stiff by loud music for his own private fetishes. Windows Mobile runs on the Bash shell kernel. So yeah, Bash shell is mobile. Bash shell is a super computer. Bash shell is a server. Bash shell is a desktop. Bash shell is growing in market share. Steven Petruzzellis can not help but grasp everyone knows he is just trolling. -- Top 15 Ways Steven Petruzzellis Trolls https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AglvCo3dJ38&feature=youtu.be Jonas Eklundh Communication
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| From | Hadron Quark <hadronquark@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-02 12:15 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality |
| Message-ID | <87ftwj4too.fsf@gmail.com> |
| In reply to | #474570 |
-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> writes: > On Wednesday, October 31, 2018 at 3:07:52 PM UTC-4, chrisv wrote: >> -hh wrote: >> >> > (snipped, unread) >> >> If you are too stupid to figure it out, -highhorse, it's not my >> problem. >> >> Would you also bicker and demand proof, if I claimed that dullards >> generally don't become doctors, or engineers, or chess players? > > Well, it depends on just how dumb your statement was, and also > assessed by how poor your track record is for veracity. > > Now for this one, studies have found that medical doctors have IQ's > that are 20+ points above the average ... > > <https://www.iq-test.net/what-is-the-average-iq-of-a-doctor-139.html> > <https://www.healthpam.com/medical-doctors-ranked-first-highest-iq-amongst-job-professions/> > > And the same intelligence trend is also present in Engineering too... > > <https://qz.com/334926/your-college-major-is-a-pretty-good-indication-of-how-smart-you-are/> > > As well as in chess... > > <https://www.acsh.org/news/2017/05/31/do-chess-players-have-higher-iqs-11366> > > So it looks like you _finally_ avoided making a stupid statement > this time ... congratulations! > Broken clocks come to mind. But in fairness even they are right more often than the turd. -- chrisv alias turdv is a turd
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| From | Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-02 04:33 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality |
| Message-ID | <80581c0e-1de3-40f5-a962-af0a32bd28d2@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #474799 |
On Friday, November 2, 2018 at 4:15:06 AM UTC-7, Hadron Quark wrote: > -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> writes: > > > On Wednesday, October 31, 2018 at 3:07:52 PM UTC-4, chrisv wrote: > >> -hh wrote: > >> > >> > (snipped, unread) > >> > >> If you are too stupid to figure it out, -highhorse, it's not my > >> problem. > >> > >> Would you also bicker and demand proof, if I claimed that dullards > >> generally don't become doctors, or engineers, or chess players? > > > > Well, it depends on just how dumb your statement was, and also > > assessed by how poor your track record is for veracity. > > > > Now for this one, studies have found that medical doctors have IQ's > > that are 20+ points above the average ... > > > > <https://www.iq-test.net/what-is-the-average-iq-of-a-doctor-139.html> > > <https://www.healthpam.com/medical-doctors-ranked-first-highest-iq-amongst-job-professions/> > > > > And the same intelligence trend is also present in Engineering too... > > > > <https://qz.com/334926/your-college-major-is-a-pretty-good-indication-of-how-smart-you-are/> > > > > As well as in chess... > > > > <https://www.acsh.org/news/2017/05/31/do-chess-players-have-higher-iqs-11366> > > > > So it looks like you _finally_ avoided making a stupid statement > > this time ... congratulations! > > > > Broken clocks come to mind. But in fairness even they are right more > often than the turd. > > -- > chrisv alias turdv is a turd LXQt is perhaps my second favorite DE and the only one I suggest to Windows users. Primary interface is KDE, though. Amazing customization is all you require after transitioning. I just configured a kill filter and don't see the idiot. Vallor's attack has made an absolute mess of this group via Google Groups, so I don't even try browsing your posts with my tablet anymore. A good thing he has achieved with this behavior though is that the Vallor filter is now done by everyone. Vallor must recognize that others can go get FileMaker, right, medhead? On top of that, anyone can can set a KF, which renders *his* kiddie crap harmless, just like Vallor. How Vallor figures out when to use his flood script for maximum impact http://usenet.sandman.net/misc/snit_flood. -- Top 15 Ways Vallor Trolls http://tinyurl.com/proof-about-ebot http://www.5z8.info/creditscore_g7f8du_launchexe Jonas Eklundh Communication AB
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| From | Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2018-11-03 01:43 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality |
| Message-ID | <5c6a8153-bab6-4a3e-9179-9b36c16f1af5@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #474801 |
On Friday, November 2, 2018 at 4:33:33 AM UTC-7, Steve Carroll wrote: > On Friday, November 2, 2018 at 4:15:06 AM UTC-7, Hadron Quark wrote: > > -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> writes: > > > > > On Wednesday, October 31, 2018 at 3:07:52 PM UTC-4, chrisv wrote: > > >> -hh wrote: > > >> > > >> > (snipped, unread) > > >> > > >> If you are too stupid to figure it out, -highhorse, it's not my > > >> problem. > > >> > > >> Would you also bicker and demand proof, if I claimed that dullards > > >> generally don't become doctors, or engineers, or chess players? > > > > > > Well, it depends on just how dumb your statement was, and also > > > assessed by how poor your track record is for veracity. > > > > > > Now for this one, studies have found that medical doctors have IQ's > > > that are 20+ points above the average ... > > > > > > <https://www.iq-test.net/what-is-the-average-iq-of-a-doctor-139.html> > > > <https://www.healthpam.com/medical-doctors-ranked-first-highest-iq-amongst-job-professions/> > > > > > > And the same intelligence trend is also present in Engineering too... > > > > > > <https://qz.com/334926/your-college-major-is-a-pretty-good-indication-of-how-smart-you-are/> > > > > > > As well as in chess... > > > > > > <https://www.acsh.org/news/2017/05/31/do-chess-players-have-higher-iqs-11366> > > > > > > So it looks like you _finally_ avoided making a stupid statement > > > this time ... congratulations! > > > > > > > Broken clocks come to mind. But in fairness even they are right more > > often than the turd. > > > > -- > > chrisv alias turdv is a turd > > > > LXQt is perhaps my second favorite DE and the only one I suggest to Windows users. Primary interface is KDE, though. Amazing customization is all you require after transitioning. I just configured a kill filter and don't see the idiot. Vallor's attack has made an absolute mess of this group via Google Groups, so I don't even try browsing your posts with my tablet anymore. A good thing he has achieved with this behavior though is that the Vallor filter is now done by everyone. Vallor must recognize that others can go get FileMaker, right, medhead? On top of that, anyone can can set a KF, which renders *his* kiddie crap harmless, just like Vallor. How Vallor figures out when to use his flood script for maximum impact http://usenet.sandman.net/misc/snit_flood. > > -- > Top 15 Ways Vallor Trolls > http://tinyurl.com/proof-about-ebot > http://www.5z8.info/creditscore_g7f8du_launchexe > Jonas Eklundh Communication AB You do realize that the massive floods ending up in multiple groups started out as a joke about hacking Google. How Jeremy decides when to use his annoying flood script to disrupt discussions best http://usenet.sandman.net/misc/snit_flood. It is easy to distort the truth by focusing on hardly any isolated examples unrepresentative from what's something more common like LibreOffice. What is more important from an honest advocates perspective are the expected usages. These morons get their thrill out of drawing out angry reactions to their flooding, which is the very definition of a troll. -- I Left My Husband & Daughter At Home And THIS happened! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4xD43Khhkw http://www.5z8.info/hackwebcam_e9z2tw_friendster-of-sex Jonas Eklundh Communication AB
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| From | Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-03 07:41 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality |
| Message-ID | <baab56d8-1a4b-4194-a218-5f777deb2926@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #474801 |
On Friday, November 2, 2018 at 4:33:33 AM UTC-7, Steve Carroll wrote: > On Friday, November 2, 2018 at 4:15:06 AM UTC-7, Hadron Quark wrote: > > -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> writes: > > > > > On Wednesday, October 31, 2018 at 3:07:52 PM UTC-4, chrisv wrote: > > >> -hh wrote: > > >> > > >> > (snipped, unread) > > >> > > >> If you are too stupid to figure it out, -highhorse, it's not my > > >> problem. > > >> > > >> Would you also bicker and demand proof, if I claimed that dullards > > >> generally don't become doctors, or engineers, or chess players? > > > > > > Well, it depends on just how dumb your statement was, and also > > > assessed by how poor your track record is for veracity. > > > > > > Now for this one, studies have found that medical doctors have IQ's > > > that are 20+ points above the average ... > > > > > > <https://www.iq-test.net/what-is-the-average-iq-of-a-doctor-139.html> > > > <https://www.healthpam.com/medical-doctors-ranked-first-highest-iq-amongst-job-professions/> > > > > > > And the same intelligence trend is also present in Engineering too... > > > > > > <https://qz.com/334926/your-college-major-is-a-pretty-good-indication-of-how-smart-you-are/> > > > > > > As well as in chess... > > > > > > <https://www.acsh.org/news/2017/05/31/do-chess-players-have-higher-iqs-11366> > > > > > > So it looks like you _finally_ avoided making a stupid statement > > > this time ... congratulations! > > > > > > > Broken clocks come to mind. But in fairness even they are right more > > often than the turd. > > > > -- > > chrisv alias turdv is a turd > > > > LXQt is perhaps my second favorite DE and the only one I suggest to Windows users. Primary interface is KDE, though. Amazing customization is all you require after transitioning. I just configured a kill filter and don't see the idiot. Vallor's attack has made an absolute mess of this group via Google Groups, so I don't even try browsing your posts with my tablet anymore. A good thing he has achieved with this behavior though is that the Vallor filter is now done by everyone. Vallor must recognize that others can go get FileMaker, right, medhead? On top of that, anyone can can set a KF, which renders *his* kiddie crap harmless, just like Vallor. How Vallor figures out when to use his flood script for maximum impact http://usenet.sandman.net/misc/snit_flood. > > -- > Top 15 Ways Vallor Trolls > http://tinyurl.com/proof-about-ebot > http://www.5z8.info/creditscore_g7f8du_launchexe > Jonas Eklundh Communication AB Chris Ahlstrom has yet to show how Kit Scenarist does anything above the lowest common denominator on Linux. No no hell no. He never agreed to stop flooding. He lied about his trolling and that was that. I persist in being unconvinced that these never ending posts are automated. Everyone is Chris Ahlstrom -- the oldest gag in the book. The person you are referencing is in my kill file. -- This Trick Gets Women Hot For You! http://www.5z8.info/backyard-fireworks-disasters_t7w7pu_bombbuilding http://www.5z8.info/how-to-build-a-bomb_o8n9lg_racist-raps https://youtu.be/IhOfBmWwCVY Jonas Eklundh Communication AB
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| From | Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2018-11-03 22:15 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: OT: The Micro$oft mentality |
| Message-ID | <929cb221-1c46-4f3e-8923-b63a4a6743f1@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #474998 |
On Saturday, November 3, 2018 at 7:41:11 AM UTC-7, Steve Carroll wrote:
> On Friday, November 2, 2018 at 4:33:33 AM UTC-7, Steve Carroll wrote:
> > On Friday, November 2, 2018 at 4:15:06 AM UTC-7, Hadron Quark wrote:
> > > -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> writes:
> > >
> > > > On Wednesday, October 31, 2018 at 3:07:52 PM UTC-4, chrisv wrote:
> > > >> -hh wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > (snipped, unread)
> > > >>
> > > >> If you are too stupid to figure it out, -highhorse, it's not my
> > > >> problem.
> > > >>
> > > >> Would you also bicker and demand proof, if I claimed that dullards
> > > >> generally don't become doctors, or engineers, or chess players?
> > > >
> > > > Well, it depends on just how dumb your statement was, and also
> > > > assessed by how poor your track record is for veracity.
> > > >
> > > > Now for this one, studies have found that medical doctors have IQ's
> > > > that are 20+ points above the average ...
> > > >
> > > > <https://www.iq-test.net/what-is-the-average-iq-of-a-doctor-139.html>
> > > > <https://www.healthpam.com/medical-doctors-ranked-first-highest-iq-amongst-job-professions/>
> > > >
> > > > And the same intelligence trend is also present in Engineering too...
> > > >
> > > > <https://qz.com/334926/your-college-major-is-a-pretty-good-indication-of-how-smart-you-are/>
> > > >
> > > > As well as in chess...
> > > >
> > > > <https://www.acsh.org/news/2017/05/31/do-chess-players-have-higher-iqs-11366>
> > > >
> > > > So it looks like you _finally_ avoided making a stupid statement
> > > > this time ... congratulations!
> > > >
> > >
> > > Broken clocks come to mind. But in fairness even they are right more
> > > often than the turd.
> > >
> > > --
> > > chrisv alias turdv is a turd
> >
> >
> >
> > LXQt is perhaps my second favorite DE and the only one I suggest to Windows users. Primary interface is KDE, though. Amazing customization is all you require after transitioning. I just configured a kill filter and don't see the idiot. Vallor's attack has made an absolute mess of this group via Google Groups, so I don't even try browsing your posts with my tablet anymore. A good thing he has achieved with this behavior though is that the Vallor filter is now done by everyone. Vallor must recognize that others can go get FileMaker, right, medhead? On top of that, anyone can can set a KF, which renders *his* kiddie crap harmless, just like Vallor. How Vallor figures out when to use his flood script for maximum impact http://usenet.sandman.net/misc/snit_flood.
> >
> > --
> > Top 15 Ways Vallor Trolls
> > http://tinyurl.com/proof-about-ebot
> > http://www.5z8.info/creditscore_g7f8du_launchexe
> > Jonas Eklundh Communication AB
>
>
>
> Chris Ahlstrom has yet to show how Kit Scenarist does anything above the lowest common denominator on Linux. No no hell no. He never agreed to stop flooding. He lied about his trolling and that was that.
>
> I persist in being unconvinced that these never ending posts are automated.
>
> Everyone is Chris Ahlstrom -- the oldest gag in the book.
>
> The person you are referencing is in my kill file.
>
>
>
> --
> This Trick Gets Women Hot For You!
> http://www.5z8.info/backyard-fireworks-disasters_t7w7pu_bombbuilding
> http://www.5z8.info/how-to-build-a-bomb_o8n9lg_racist-raps
> https://youtu.be/IhOfBmWwCVY
> Jonas Eklundh Communication AB
Carroll, 4/10/2015 4:04 PM:
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Cute trick... To the guy who hacked my Google account.
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No details. Seems to treat it as a joke.
Carroll, 4/10/2015 5:02 PM, <https://goo.gl/51rsmZ>:
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Email Hacking Is A Serious Crime
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No longer "cute"... now it is a serious crime. OK.
Carroll, 4/10/2015 5:07 PM:
By now he is posting more links to how serious this crime against him is.
Carroll, 4/10/2015 7:25 PM:
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I didn't write that.
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Now he is denying the posts from his own account. OK, he was "hacked". Someone else posted this. Hard to hack a gmail account given how they use two-step authentication and someone would need access to his phone or the like... but at least POSSIBLE.
Even then, though, if someone tries to guess your password Google alerts you and lets you know what IP address and other info. I know because someone in a Denver internet cafe has tried mine on several occasions.
Google even forces you to change your password when this happens. Very hard to hack these days.
So already Carroll's story is unlikely.
But let us accept it... someone somehow hacked his account bypassing the two step verification. This person did not, however, change his password and Carroll posted within an hour of the "hacker". Before that, unless he is an idiot, he changed his password and the "hacker" was locked out. The "hacker" got one post in.
But Carroll could not leave his story there.
Carroll, 4/10/2015 8:36 PM, <https://goo.gl/NJ2bMH>:
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Someone hacked my fretwizzer gmail acct so, for the time being,
don't trust anything from it.
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Wait. What? Even after Carroll figured out this "hacker" who was too stupid to change his password had broken into his account and Carroll *surely* must have changed his own password, he is saying the "hacker" might still have access. Might be able to break Google's two-step verification process *again*.
This is *very* unlikely... to the point of being unbelievable.
Even worse for him: he notes which of his accounts he is claiming was hacked - but in the past he has denied even using the other accounts! LOL! He screwed up and made it very clear he has multiple accounts and felt the need to note which one. He made the same mistake in the next quote where he speaks of WHICH of his gmail accounts he is claiming was hacked. Oops! If he only posts with one there would be no need to specify which one!
He has completely screwed up in his game to pretend he posts with only one gmail account. Completely idiotic of him, too!
Carroll, 4/10/2015 8:38 PM, <https://goo.gl/YA7gMO>:
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Some mentally deficient child hacked my 'fretwizzer' gmail account
so I may have to kill it. For the time being, don't assume
anything that's coming from it was written by me.
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He is still saying that he may have to kill the account instead of just changing the password which anyone with half a brain would have already done (and Google *forces* you to do when someone even tries to hack your account... I know because someone in the Denver area has tried to hack mine multiple times... likely Carroll but I have no proof of this). And he specifies WHICH of his accounts! He is directly admitting he uses more than one account! His claim of being "forged" with his second account is a lie. Proved.
Carroll, 4/10/2015 8:40 PM, <https://goo.gl/j6yCuV>:
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Looks like it's still being hacked despite me taking precautions,
I may have to kill the account.
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What makes it look like its still being hacked? And what precautions other than changing the two-step verification options does he need? And how would someone bypass this... is he really on the NSA watch list? Seems you would need someone at that level to be doing this. He watches too much TV where they computer hackers spend thirty seconds and bypass all security.
Just nonsense.
Carroll, 4/11/2015 12:05 PM:
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Apparently Google is having issues with their accounts to the
point where they're ready to undertake some additional measures.
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But, of course, no evidence of this... and what measures? They already alert users if someone else tries to guess your password and use two-step authentication and even force you to make a new password if it seems someone is trying to hack you.
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They're now involving several federal agencies in things they
didn't bother with previously in an effort to deal with people who
hack into accounts. They've asked me to leave the account open.
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So now Google is letting Carroll know how they are handling these things - and asking him to leave a *hacked* account open... one someone can be using to steal his identity. No. This does not pass the sniff test in any way. Even if they were doing this for some bizarre sting operation, which is in itself far fetched, they would have told Carroll to not make it public information so the hacker would not know.
Just insanity. His own story is so idiotic and full of idiotic claims it simply cannot be true. Carroll uses his secondary Google account - the one he accesses via Tor and is referred to as his Tor account - to have plausible deniability for things he says there. Now he is working to do the same thing with his main account. Maybe Carroll read a report like this: <http://cnnmon.ie/111QeT8> [money.com]. If so he missed the part where they note if you are *really* hacked, which is rare, the hackers change your password and lock you out. Why would they not?
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There's some new legislation that will help them deal with this
issue... which probably means more BS for us ;)
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Yes, new legislation to make sure Carroll does not have to deal with "hackers" and "forgers" which do not even exist.
The funny part is, this happened shortly after someone in the Denver area, likely Carroll, tried to guess *my* passwords and they did it from an Internet café (Google tells you the IP and that can be used to trace back).
My guess: Carroll is the one who was working to guess my password and figured this new lie of his was a good way to deny his own words even more than he does with his Tor account *and* a way to make it so if I had talked about him trying to hack my account he could say I was just copying his comments. "Proving" I read his posts... which for now I am to see how absurd his lies are. :)
Carroll, 4/11/2015 12:25 PM:
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The person who hacked into my Gmail acct. changed the wording on
this post. I've removed the others but Google asked me to leave
one standing for some odd reason.
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Here Carroll claims the hacker changed the wording on a post of his from *before* he had even claimed he was hacked. So this hacker not only can *post* for him but edit his old Usenet posts.
I call utter bullshit on this. Out and out lie from Carroll. And then Carroll says Google asked him to not delete these "hacked" posts... this is nonsense. Why would Google want him to leave forged posts in the public and why would Google not just keep their own copy? Even Carroll notes it is for "some odd reason" - yeah, because Carroll is telling stories that make *no* sense at all.
Carroll is lying. Maybe there is some kernel of truth to his stories? Even if so - and frankly it is unlikely he will ever show any evidence to back his claims - the details he is posting are absurd.
Carroll, 4/11/2015 2:10 PM:
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And he's so high he thinks people still have to manually enter all
their passwords in whenever they want to use anything that's been
password protected ;)
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Nobody had suggested, hinted, implied, or said anything like what Carroll says they did.
Maybe his story will be someone stole his laptop (or mobile device) and he had his passwords saved? If so why not have the device deactivated remotely? Why has he not said anything about this?
My guess: he realizes he screwed up when trying to guess my passwords and is now building a story so he can say his computer was stolen and it was not him. Or, LOL, maybe someone broke into his house and did it.
This unknown hacker knew he was obsessed with me and carried on acting like him. Makes complete sense, eh?
Carroll, 4/12/2015 8:45 AM, <https://goo.gl/KMf4pa>:
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The first one, that has since been deleted. My bad for having such
a feeble password on this account.
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Now he suggests it was merely from someone guessing his password - which contradicts his above insinuations that it could have been from a saved password on a device he had.
His story changes with the telling.
But as noted, when someone tries to guess your password Google has ways to deal with it. I know - Carroll or someone in his neck of the woods recently tried it with me.
Carroll, 4/12/2015 9:29 AM:
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The account in question here is a gmail account. Contrary to
Snit's delusions, I have no idea what a TOR account looks like but
it's a good bet it doesn't bear much of a resemblance to a gmail
account.
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Here Carroll plays stupid and pretends that if when he or anyone uses the Tor browser *Carroll* pointed to this somehow changes the way the gmail interface looks. Um, no. Worse it might do is make Google think you are in another country and you would have to set it back to English. But the basic look stays the same.
He is playing stupid and pretending to not know how the Tor browser he pointed to works. Just idiotic of him.
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That idiocy aside, I love how Snit has repeatedly, for years,
feigned ignorance about gmail accounts, yet, he keeps disclosing
info that proves he knows about them. Some fools do stuff like
this when they believe people are as stupid as the fool needs them
to be ;)
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I do not think Google would allow you to edit your Usenet / groups posts but I do not use it much and do not know for sure. Seems absurd that they would... and others have now said they do not. But given how I do not use Google Groups for posting why would I know the details of their system for certain?
Carroll, 6/16/2015 8:47 PM:
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Your obsession with me is insane. Working with Google I now have
proof you and ebot worked together to hack me. Clever. If I press
charges against you I have to also include her so you remain safe
for now.
Do not think this is over.
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No evidence of working with Google on this (and all out and out lies). Carroll is making public threats based on lies.
Carroll, 6/16/2015 8:50 PM:
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I promised COLA your trolling days were over so you contacted ebot
and worked with her to hack my account. I might not be able to get
your ass handed to you in court over this but wait until your boss
at Yavapai College contacts you.
Maybe you should make that call first. Ask about your comments on
incest.
See if those can not be quoted.
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Direct lies and threats by Carroll.
Carroll, 6/16/2015 8:51 PM:
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You went too far this time Snit. We have trolled each other for
years but to contact ebot and get her to help you hack my account
was over a line.
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A complete and utter lie from Carroll.
Carroll, 6/16/2015 8:52 PM:
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The above post is Snit hacking my account.
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A complete and utter lie... more false accusations from him.
Carroll, 6/16/2015 8:53 PM:
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You edited those posts when you hacked my account. Do not trust
anything from my fretwizzer account now that Snit and ebot have
access to it.
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More unsupported claims and attacks by Carroll.
Carroll, 4/16/2015 8:56 PM:
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Working with Google I now have proof Snit and ebot hacked the
account. Many of the older posts were edited. You can see evidence
of this by Snit pointing to "old" posts which have been modified to
say I claimed I was his "personal newsgroup rapist", a phrase I
have never used.
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No evidence of Carroll working with Google. No evidence of any older posts being edited.
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