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  Linux destroys Internet Trolls 7 <email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_com@enemygadgets.com> - 2014-04-28 00:06 +0100
    Re: Linux destroys Internet Trolls DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-04-27 19:36 -0400
      Re: Linux destroys Internet Trolls 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-04-27 19:39 -0400
      Re: Linux destroys Internet Trolls Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-04-27 19:54 -0400
    Somehow Linux missed you, stupid. BurfordTJustice aka Cunt-T-Justice the hood-rat <JWy7ITkhmElyWhsRgCtibFZH5j8hMCHUbT/fgnsU8KOsjMJNXpD5BSbJONSFXjWyQMWT0g==> - 2014-04-27 21:39 -0400
    Re: Linux destroys Internet Trolls §ñühwö£f <snuhwolf@netscape.net> - 2014-04-28 06:58 -0700
      Re: Linux destroys Internet Trolls Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-04-28 09:12 -0400
        Re: Linux destroys Internet Trolls 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-04-28 09:35 -0400
          Re: Linux destroys Internet Trolls Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-04-28 12:09 -0400
        Re: Linux destroys Internet Trolls §ñühwö£f <snuhwolf5150@hotmail.com> - 2014-04-28 13:45 -0600
          Re: Linux destroys Internet Trolls chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-04-28 14:53 -0500
            Re: Linux destroys Internet Trolls Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-04-28 12:58 -0700
            Both you, 7 and the rest of you pieces of crap in COLA need to be beaten. Every few months, it's the same old COLA BS rides again out of worthless COLA. BurfordTJustice aka Cunt-T-Justice the hood-rat <JWy7ITkhmElyWhsRgCtibFZH5j8hMCHUbT/fgnsU8KOsjMJNXpD5BSbJONSFXjWyQMWT0g==> - 2014-04-28 18:25 -0400
              A Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-04-28 19:58 -0400
                Re: A chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-04-29 07:05 -0500
              You read what I wrote in the subject line you piece of crap, keep your bullshit and the rest of COLA bullshit in COLA. BurfordTJustice aka Cunt-T-Justice the hood-rat <JWy7ITkhmElyWhsRgCtibFZH5j8hMCHUbT/fgnsU8KOsjMJNXpD5BSbJONSFXjWyQMWT0g==> - 2014-04-29 08:23 -0400
              Re: Both you, 7 and the rest of you pieces of crap in COLA need to be beaten. Every few months, it's the same old COLA BS rides again out of worthless COLA. "BurfordTJustice" <burford@hubdub.mo> - 2014-04-29 08:32 -0400
                Chiraq's hood-rat CuntJustice needs to keep her tampon dry in Chicago aka Chiraq. BurfordTJustice aka Cunt-T-Justice the hood-rat <JWy7ITkhmElyWhsRgCtibFZH5j8hMCHUbT/fgnsU8KOsjMJNXpD5BSbJONSFXjWyQMWT0g==> - 2014-04-29 08:38 -0400
                  WTF?  "Burford" snipped his own garbage?? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-04-29 07:45 -0500
                    Re: WTF?  "Burford" snipped his own garbage?? Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-04-29 14:51 +0200
                  Like someone gives a fuck as to what you think?  You damn fucked-up head is hard. You always play the damn victim's role you little ass-hole. Your alt.test bullshit means nothing like you. BurfordTJustice aka Cunt-T-Justice the hood-rat <JWy7ITkhmElyWhsRgCtibFZH5j8hMCHUbT/fgnsU8KOsjMJNXpD5BSbJONSFXjWyQMWT0g==> - 2014-04-29 09:46 -0400
                Re: Both you, 7 and the rest of you pieces of crap in COLA need to be beaten. Every few months, it's the same old COLA BS rides again out of worthless COLA. Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-04-29 14:40 +0200
            Re: Linux destroys Internet Trolls DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-04-29 10:31 -0400
            Re: Linux destroys Internet Trolls Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-04-30 12:18 +0200
          Re: Linux destroys Internet Trolls Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-04-28 19:57 -0400
            Re: Linux destroys Internet Trolls Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-04-28 17:07 -0700
              Re: Linux destroys Internet Trolls §ñühwö£f <snuhwolf@yahoo.com> - 2014-04-29 06:56 -0700
                Re: Linux destroys Internet Trolls chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-04-29 08:09 -0500
                  Re: Linux destroys Internet Trolls Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-04-29 08:11 -0700
                Re: Linux destroys Internet Trolls Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-04-29 09:18 -0400
                  Re: Linux destroys Internet Trolls §ñühwö£f <snuhwolf5150@hotmail.com> - 2014-04-29 13:15 -0600
                    Re: Linux destroys Internet Trolls Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-04-29 15:26 -0400
                Re: Linux destroys Internet Trolls owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2014-04-29 13:30 +0000
                  Re: Linux destroys Internet Trolls Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-04-29 09:33 -0400
                  Re: Linux destroys Internet Trolls §ñühwö£f <snuhwolf5150@hotmail.com> - 2014-04-29 13:18 -0600
                    Re: Linux destroys Internet Trolls Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-04-29 16:47 -0400
                      Re: Linux destroys Internet Trolls Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-04-29 13:55 -0700
                        Re: Linux destroys Internet Trolls Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-04-29 13:58 -0700
                  Re: Linux destroys Internet Trolls DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-04-30 12:48 -0400
                    Re: Linux destroys Internet Trolls Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-04-30 12:55 -0400
                      Re: Linux destroys Internet Trolls 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-04-30 14:58 -0400
                        Re: Linux destroys Internet Trolls Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-04-30 17:25 -0700
            Re: Linux destroys Internet Trolls JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-04-29 13:26 -0500
              Re: Linux destroys Internet Trolls chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-04-30 07:47 -0500
                Re: Linux destroys Internet Trolls Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-04-30 09:35 -0400
                Re: Linux destroys Internet Trolls 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-04-30 09:52 -0400
                  Re: Linux destroys Internet Trolls Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-04-30 10:19 -0400
                    Re: Linux destroys Internet Trolls 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-04-30 10:28 -0400
                      Re: Linux destroys Internet Trolls Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-04-30 12:25 -0400
                        Re: Linux destroys Internet Trolls Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-04-30 18:32 +0200
                          Re: Linux destroys Internet Trolls Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-04-30 09:44 -0700
                          Re: Linux destroys Internet Trolls Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-04-30 12:50 -0400
                            Re: Linux destroys Internet Trolls Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-04-30 10:07 -0700
                        Re: Linux destroys Internet Trolls Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-04-30 09:41 -0700
                Re: Linux destroys Internet Trolls Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-04-30 10:14 -0400
          Re: Linux destroys Internet Trolls BurfordTJustice aka Cunt-T-Justice the hood-rat <JWy7ITkhmElyWhsRgCtibFZH5j8hMCHUbT/fgnsU8KOsjMJNXpD5BSbJONSFXjWyQMWT0g==> - 2014-04-28 20:14 -0400
            Re: Linux destroys Internet Trolls §ñühwö£f <snuhwolf@yahoo.com> - 2014-04-29 06:59 -0700
              Re: Linux destroys Internet Trolls Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-04-29 15:02 +0200
                Re: Linux destroys Internet Trolls Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-04-29 09:19 -0400
                  Re: Linux destroys Internet Trolls BurfordTJustice aka Cunt-T-Justice the hood-rat <JWy7ITkhmElyWhsRgCtibFZH5j8hMCHUbT/fgnsU8KOsjMJNXpD5BSbJONSFXjWyQMWT0g==> - 2014-04-29 09:48 -0400
                    Re: Linux destroys Internet Trolls chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-04-29 09:04 -0500
                      Re: Linux destroys Internet Trolls Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-04-29 10:07 -0400
                        Re: Linux destroys Internet Trolls BurfordTJustice aka Cunt-T-Justice the hood-rat <JWy7ITkhmElyWhsRgCtibFZH5j8hMCHUbT/fgnsU8KOsjMJNXpD5BSbJONSFXjWyQMWT0g==> - 2014-04-29 10:24 -0400
                          Re: Linux destroys Internet Trolls chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-04-29 09:31 -0500
                      Re: Linux destroys Internet Trolls Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-04-30 12:19 +0200
                      Re: Linux destroys Internet Trolls Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2014-05-07 19:13 -0500
                        Re: Linux destroys Internet Trolls RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2014-05-08 00:26 +0000
                          Re: Linux destroys Internet Trolls Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-07 21:15 -0400
                        Re: Linux destroys Internet Trolls Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-07 17:57 -0700
        Re: Linux destroys Internet Trolls "Poisoned by Win 8.1" <trigonometry1972@gmail.com> - 2014-04-28 15:17 -0700
    Re: Linux destroys Internet Trolls sbd <sbd.pambu@safe-mail.net> - 2014-04-28 11:53 -0300
    Linux destroys Internet Trolls -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2014-04-29 19:24 -0700

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#240910

On Wed, 30 Apr 2014 12:55:04 -0400, Silver Slimer wrote:

> On 2014-04-30 12:48 PM, DFS wrote:
>> On 04/29/2014 09:30 AM, owl wrote:
>>> In comp.os.linux.advocacy §ñühwö£f <snuhwolf@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>> Have to learn how to aim & control the flame thrower before you deploy
>>>> it? Heh...I have no dog in this fight: I'm a BeOS/Haiku fanboi :)
>>>>
>>>
>>> Hmm.  We're moving, and I found an old box of BeOS and a BeOS Bible
>>> at the bottom of a closet.  I tossed it in the trash.  Was it worth
>>> something?
>>
>>
>> Who's driving the 'wide load' warning vehicle?
> 
> Your post just helped me come up with a new name for William Poaster: 
> Wideload Porkster. Thanks for that.

lol !

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#240974

On Wednesday, April 30, 2014 6:58:16 PM UTC, flatfish+++ wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Apr 2014 12:55:04 -0400, Silver Slimer wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> > On 2014-04-30 12:48 PM, DFS wrote:
> 
> >> On 04/29/2014 09:30 AM, owl wrote:
> 
> >>> In comp.os.linux.advocacy ���hw��f <snuhwolf@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> >>>>>
> 
> >>>> Have to learn how to aim & control the flame thrower before you deploy
> 
> >>>> it? Heh...I have no dog in this fight: I'm a BeOS/Haiku fanboi :)
> 
> >>>>
> 
> >>>
> 
> >>> Hmm.  We're moving, and I found an old box of BeOS and a BeOS Bible
> 
> >>> at the bottom of a closet.  I tossed it in the trash.  Was it worth
> 
> >>> something?
> 
> >>
> 
> >>
> 
> >> Who's driving the 'wide load' warning vehicle?
> 
> > 
> 
> > Your post just helped me come up with a new name for William Poaster: 
> 
> > Wideload Porkster. Thanks for that.
> 
> 
> 
> lol !

Another thread ruined by Michael Glasser Prescott Computer guy of Prescott, Arizona.

http://prescottcomputerguy.com

His video expertise is shown here

http://prescottcomputerguy.com/screenflow

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#240811

On 2014-04-28, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
> §ñühwö£f wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> Silver Slimer wrote:
>>> 
>>> If the advocates had their way, they'd indeed force the world to install 
>>> GNU/Linux at gunpoint. However, they'd be using open-source guns which 

    Nope. Total false strawman.

    It's the corporate shills that can't tolerate other people's choices.

    That's why they come in here to troll.

[deletia]

> Slimer is a troll who will tell any lie, the bigger, the better, sometimes
> even libelling and vicious.
>


-- 
	Sophocles wants his cut.                                |||
                                                               / | \

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#240867

JEDIDIAH wrote:

>>> troll wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> If the advocates had their way, they'd indeed force the world to install 
>>>> GNU/Linux at gunpoint. However, they'd be using open-source guns which 
>
>    Nope. Total false strawman.
>
>    It's the corporate shills that can't tolerate other people's choices.
>
>    That's why they come in here to troll.

It is interesting how the small number of individuals that have
wandered away from the herd have come under attack.  They are accused
of being a cult.  Their choice is ridiculed as being inferior because,
you know, if it was so good, why have so few left the herd?
Amazingly, they are even accused of "herd like" behavior because they
tend to share values which have caused them to leave the *real* herd!

-- 
'So complete freedom is doesn't actually matter - as long as you think
there are "enough freedoms."'  -  trolling fsckwit "Ezekiel",
attacking the GPL

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#240874

chrisv wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> JEDIDIAH wrote:
>
>>>> troll wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> If the advocates had their way, they'd indeed force the world to install 
>>>>> GNU/Linux at gunpoint. However, they'd be using open-source guns which 
>>
>>    Nope. Total false strawman.
>>
>>    It's the corporate shills that can't tolerate other people's choices.
>>
>>    That's why they come in here to troll.
>
> It is interesting how the small number of individuals that have
> wandered away from the herd have come under attack.  They are accused
> of being a cult.  Their choice is ridiculed as being inferior because,
> you know, if it was so good, why have so few left the herd?
> Amazingly, they are even accused of "herd like" behavior because they
> tend to share values which have caused them to leave the *real* herd!

A similar attack is building in AOLU, though not nearly as far along as the
trashing of COLA.

-- 
"If you can, help others.  If you can't, at least don't hurt others."
		-- the Dalai Lama

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#240875

On Wed, 30 Apr 2014 07:47:42 -0500, chrisv wrote:

> JEDIDIAH wrote:
> 
>>>> troll wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> If the advocates had their way, they'd indeed force the world to install 
>>>>> GNU/Linux at gunpoint. However, they'd be using open-source guns which 
>>
>>    Nope. Total false strawman.
>>
>>    It's the corporate shills that can't tolerate other people's choices.
>>
>>    That's why they come in here to troll.
> 
> It is interesting how the small number of individuals that have
> wandered away from the herd have come under attack.

Yea, but the Linux loons.
People like marti, greycloud, philo and others who left the Linux 
cult were immediately attacked by you loons.

And in the case of marti, when he came back to the fold the attacks 
stopped.

>  They are accused
> of being a cult.  Their choice is ridiculed as being inferior because,
> you know, if it was so good, why have so few left the herd?

Many have left the Linux cult.
That's why it remains a flat 1 to 2 percent of the market.

Ever see all of those numbers posted by Canonical and so forth when a 
new version of Linux is released?

So where are all these people?

I'll tell you where they are. They are back running Windows a week 
after they try Linux.
Same story everywhere.

> Amazingly, they are even accused of "herd like" behavior because they
> tend to share values which have caused them to leave the *real* herd!

Only by you Linux losers.
-- 
flatfish+++

163 Reasons not to deal with Michael "Snit" Glasser, the Prescott 
Computer Guy
http://cosmicpenguin.com/snitlist.html

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#240881

On 2014-04-30 9:52 AM,  flatfish+++ wrote:

>> It is interesting how the small number of individuals that have
>> wandered away from the herd have come under attack.
>
> Yea, but the Linux loons.
> People like marti, greycloud, philo and others who left the Linux
> cult were immediately attacked by you loons.
>
> And in the case of marti, when he came back to the fold the attacks
> stopped.

I wonder if Chris AssStorm would suddenly find me to be reasonable and 
friendly if I decided to run Ubuntu again. I'll be in the market for a 
powerful laptop next year and hell, maybe I'll get a System76 one just 
to gain a +1 from the guy.

> Many have left the Linux cult.
> That's why it remains a flat 1 to 2 percent of the market.
>
> Ever see all of those numbers posted by Canonical and so forth when a
> new version of Linux is released?
>
> So where are all these people?
>
> I'll tell you where they are. They are back running Windows a week
> after they try Linux.
> Same story everywhere.

It's actually funny because people run into problems with GNU/Linux 
within the hour they installed it for the first time. Yes, all of the 
applications they would technically ever need are pre-installed but they 
generally don't work the way people would expect them to from what I've 
seen. In my case, I actually like the set of applications GNU/Linux 
distributions commonly come with and think they work great in addition 
to being lightweight. However, I tend to be a lot more open-minded to 
change than typical folks.

-- 
Silver Slimer
Wikipedia & OpenMedia Supporter

163 Reasons not to deal with Michael "Snit" Glasser, the Prescott 
Computer Guy
http://cosmicpenguin.com/snitlist.html

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#240883

On Wed, 30 Apr 2014 10:19:19 -0400, Silver Slimer wrote:

> On 2014-04-30 9:52 AM,  flatfish+++ wrote:
> 
>>> It is interesting how the small number of individuals that have
>>> wandered away from the herd have come under attack.
>>
>> Yea, but the Linux loons.
>> People like marti, greycloud, philo and others who left the Linux
>> cult were immediately attacked by you loons.
>>
>> And in the case of marti, when he came back to the fold the attacks
>> stopped.
> 
> I wonder if Chris AssStorm would suddenly find me to be reasonable and 
> friendly if I decided to run Ubuntu again. I'll be in the market for a 
> powerful laptop next year and hell, maybe I'll get a System76 one just 
> to gain a +1 from the guy.

He, as well as the other Linux loons will automatically conclude you
are trolling to set them up. It's the old "try Linux, love
Linux,ditch Linux" tactic.

They are hyper paranoid around COLA.
 
>> Many have left the Linux cult.
>> That's why it remains a flat 1 to 2 percent of the market.
>>
>> Ever see all of those numbers posted by Canonical and so forth when a
>> new version of Linux is released?
>>
>> So where are all these people?
>>
>> I'll tell you where they are. They are back running Windows a week
>> after they try Linux.
>> Same story everywhere.
> 
> It's actually funny because people run into problems with GNU/Linux 
> within the hour they installed it for the first time. Yes, all of the 
> applications they would technically ever need are pre-installed but they 
> generally don't work the way people would expect them to from what I've 
> seen. In my case, I actually like the set of applications GNU/Linux 
> distributions commonly come with and think they work great in addition 
> to being lightweight. However, I tend to be a lot more open-minded to 
> change than typical folks.

The bugs become apparent very soon after the noob installs Linux.
Also things like lack of decent help systems hurts.
Then there is the lack of full portable gadget support.

The bottom line is that users used to Windows or OSX will find Linux
and it's applications to be crude and to not be superior to Windows
or OSX applications so the reason to switch goes away.
Along with Linux BTW.

-- 
flatfish+++

163 Reasons not to deal with Michael "Snit" Glasser, the Prescott 
Computer Guy
http://cosmicpenguin.com/snitlist.html

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#240888

On 2014-04-30 10:28 AM,  flatfish+++ wrote:

>> I wonder if Chris AssStorm would suddenly find me to be reasonable and
>> friendly if I decided to run Ubuntu again. I'll be in the market for a
>> powerful laptop next year and hell, maybe I'll get a System76 one just
>> to gain a +1 from the guy.
>
> He, as well as the other Linux loons will automatically conclude you
> are trolling to set them up. It's the old "try Linux, love
> Linux,ditch Linux" tactic.
>
> They are hyper paranoid around COLA.

The worst part is that I was, for a year and a half, a much more 
hardcore GNU/Linux advocate than anyone else. For one, I always refer to 
the operating system by its proper name of GNU/Linux. I also refused to 
use ANY proprietary software whether it was on my own or on work 
computers. In fact, all of my media was also encoded in free formats 
such as FLAC, Ogg Vorbis and Theora. In the case of Theora, my videos 
CLEARLY looked worse than ANY video in the x.264 format but I didn't 
care... Theora was freedom. So they can call me a sock, a troll or 
whatever the hell they want but the reality is that I can be one hell of 
an ally if they stop behaving like little kids.

>> It's actually funny because people run into problems with GNU/Linux
>> within the hour they installed it for the first time. Yes, all of the
>> applications they would technically ever need are pre-installed but they
>> generally don't work the way people would expect them to from what I've
>> seen. In my case, I actually like the set of applications GNU/Linux
>> distributions commonly come with and think they work great in addition
>> to being lightweight. However, I tend to be a lot more open-minded to
>> change than typical folks.
>
> The bugs become apparent very soon after the noob installs Linux.
> Also things like lack of decent help systems hurts.
> Then there is the lack of full portable gadget support.
>
> The bottom line is that users used to Windows or OSX will find Linux
> and it's applications to be crude and to not be superior to Windows
> or OSX applications so the reason to switch goes away.
> Along with Linux BTW.

You have to go into GNU/Linux with a good understanding of the 
philosophy of free software to enjoy it. If you know that a community of 
unpaid labourers is what is mostly behind the operating system, you can 
overlook certain problems. If you go into it expecting a true competitor 
to something like Windows or OS X, you'll be disappointed. That's why I 
think that GNU/Linux should exist ONLY in completely free form. No 
proprietary software whatsoever, not even for drivers. Of course, that 
move will make the system unusable for many configurations. However, it 
will make the system's state acceptable to anyone using it and encourage 
people to improve faulty software on their own by taking up programming 
rather than waiting for a third-party to fix the software like Windows 
users do. A fully-free GNU/Linux wouldn't even come close to being 
better than either proprietary system, but it would ETHICALLY be better 
than both by miles. Chances are that it would also encourage more people 
to use it in general (more than 2% anyway) AND force media companies to 
release their codecs openly rather than in closed form.

-- 
Silver Slimer
Wikipedia & OpenMedia Supporter

163 Reasons not to deal with Michael "Snit" Glasser, the Prescott 
Computer Guy
http://cosmicpenguin.com/snitlist.html

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#240890

Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> writes:

> On 2014-04-30 10:28 AM,  flatfish+++ wrote:
>
>>> I wonder if Chris AssStorm would suddenly find me to be reasonable and
>>> friendly if I decided to run Ubuntu again. I'll be in the market for a
>>> powerful laptop next year and hell, maybe I'll get a System76 one just
>>> to gain a +1 from the guy.
>>
>> He, as well as the other Linux loons will automatically conclude you
>> are trolling to set them up. It's the old "try Linux, love
>> Linux,ditch Linux" tactic.
>>
>> They are hyper paranoid around COLA.
>
> The worst part is that I was, for a year and a half, a much more hardcore
> GNU/Linux advocate than anyone else. For one, I always refer to the operating
> system by its proper name of GNU/Linux. I also refused to use ANY proprietary
> software whether it was on my own or on work computers. In fact, all of my media
> was also encoded in free formats such as FLAC, Ogg Vorbis and Theora. In the
> case of Theora, my videos CLEARLY looked worse than ANY video in the x.264
> format but I didn't care... Theora was freedom. So they can call me a sock, a
> troll or whatever the hell they want but the reality is that I can be one hell
> of an ally if they stop behaving like little kids.
>
>>> It's actually funny because people run into problems with GNU/Linux
>>> within the hour they installed it for the first time. Yes, all of the
>>> applications they would technically ever need are pre-installed but they
>>> generally don't work the way people would expect them to from what I've
>>> seen. In my case, I actually like the set of applications GNU/Linux
>>> distributions commonly come with and think they work great in addition
>>> to being lightweight. However, I tend to be a lot more open-minded to
>>> change than typical folks.
>>
>> The bugs become apparent very soon after the noob installs Linux.
>> Also things like lack of decent help systems hurts.
>> Then there is the lack of full portable gadget support.
>>
>> The bottom line is that users used to Windows or OSX will find Linux
>> and it's applications to be crude and to not be superior to Windows
>> or OSX applications so the reason to switch goes away.
>> Along with Linux BTW.
>
> You have to go into GNU/Linux with a good understanding of the philosophy of
> free software to enjoy it. If you know that a community of unpaid labourers is
> what is mostly behind the operating system, you can overlook certain
> problems. If you go into it expecting a true competitor to something like
> Windows or OS X, you'll be disappointed. That's why I think that GNU/Linux
> should exist ONLY in completely free form. No proprietary software
> whatsoever,

Why on earth would you think that? There ARE 100% Free versions. Use
that. For others that want their HW to work a mix and match is fine.

> not even for drivers. Of course, that move will make the system unusable for
> many configurations. However, it will make the system's state acceptable to
> anyone using it and encourage people to improve faulty software on
> their own by

How will it make the "state acceptable"? Makes zero sense.

> taking up programming rather than waiting for a third-party to fix the software
> like Windows users do. A fully-free GNU/Linux wouldn't even come close
> to being

Huh? You can do that with mix and match SW too.

> better than either proprietary system, but it would ETHICALLY be
> better than

A well configured Linux system is easily on a par with Windows for many
uses - but audio visual and gaming certainly not.

> both by miles. Chances are that it would also encourage more people to use it in
> general (more than 2% anyway) AND force media companies to release their codecs
> openly rather than in closed form.

It wouldnt "force" anything of the kind. Windows as 90% and more and the
companies dont release their closed source. Why would they give their
work away for Linux freetards to steal and their competitors to analyse?


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#240892

On 4/30/14, 9:32 AM, in article 87bnviwzfb.fsf@gmail.com, "Hadron"
<hadronquark@gmail.com> wrote:

...
>> You have to go into GNU/Linux with a good understanding of the philosophy of
>> free software to enjoy it. If you know that a community of unpaid labourers
>> is what is mostly behind the operating system, you can overlook certain
>> problems. If you go into it expecting a true competitor to something like
>> Windows or OS X, you'll be disappointed. That's why I think that GNU/Linux
>> should exist ONLY in completely free form. No proprietary software
>> whatsoever,
>> 
> Why on earth would you think that? There ARE 100% Free versions. Use that. For
> others that want their HW to work a mix and match is fine.

He values freedom so much he thinks people should not freely use this
software as it is licensed? Um, yeah, there is a flaw with his thinking.

>> not even for drivers. Of course, that move will make the system unusable for
>> many configurations. However, it will make the system's state acceptable to
>> anyone using it and encourage people to improve faulty software on
>> their own by
> 
> How will it make the "state acceptable"? Makes zero sense.

It is somehow more "acceptable" for everyone for it to work less well.
Another flaw with his reasoning.

>> taking up programming rather than waiting for a third-party to fix the
>> software like Windows users do. A fully-free GNU/Linux wouldn't even come
>> close to being
>> 
> Huh? You can do that with mix and match SW too.
> 
>> better than either proprietary system, but it would ETHICALLY be
>> better than
> 
> A well configured Linux system is easily on a par with Windows for many
> uses - but audio visual and gaming certainly not.

For some limited uses it is as good - and some programming uses and other
niches. For most uses it is still far behind the competition.

>> both by miles. Chances are that it would also encourage more people to use it
>> in general (more than 2% anyway) AND force media companies to release their
>> codecs openly rather than in closed form.
>> 
> It wouldnt "force" anything of the kind. Windows as 90% and more and the
> companies dont release their closed source. Why would they give their work
> away for Linux freetards to steal and their competitors to analyse?

Exactly. He is still accepting the cult-like teachings of Stallman. He is a
follower.



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#240896

On 2014-04-30 12:32 PM, Hadron wrote:

>> You have to go into GNU/Linux with a good understanding of the philosophy of
>> free software to enjoy it. If you know that a community of unpaid labourers is
>> what is mostly behind the operating system, you can overlook certain
>> problems. If you go into it expecting a true competitor to something like
>> Windows or OS X, you'll be disappointed. That's why I think that GNU/Linux
>> should exist ONLY in completely free form. No proprietary software
>> whatsoever,
>
> Why on earth would you think that? There ARE 100% Free versions. Use
> that. For others that want their HW to work a mix and match is fine.

I know it's fine. However, if I had total control, I would make 
everything entirely free just as Richard Stallman advocates. If everyone 
were forced to use free software and ONLY free software, the problems 
within GNU/Linux would be more apparent to the users (especially on the 
graphics side) and its users would be more willing to help in the 
improvement of the software and the drivers. So long as proprietary 
software exists for the GPU and things like Flash, the users won't see 
the need to improve the ATI/NVIDIA drivers and Gnash until the companies 
behind those drivers decide to pull the plug and leave the users 
stranded. Imagine if NVIDIA and ATI both decided to abandon all 
proprietary drivers and Flash videos all suddenly used features 
exclusive to versions 13 and up. Would Flash 11.2's age and the fact 
that that new GeForce GTX 990 doesn't have drivers for it be noticed by 
the community?

>> not even for drivers. Of course, that move will make the system unusable for
>> many configurations. However, it will make the system's state acceptable to
>> anyone using it and encourage people to improve faulty software on
>> their own by
>
> How will it make the "state acceptable"? Makes zero sense.

People would overlook the problems because they would know that regular 
people were behind the software, not necessarily professionals. Pay 
attention.

> A well configured Linux system is easily on a par with Windows for many
> uses - but audio visual and gaming certainly not.

That's not what I'm arguing at all.

>> both by miles. Chances are that it would also encourage more people to use it in
>> general (more than 2% anyway) AND force media companies to release their codecs
>> openly rather than in closed form.
>
> It wouldnt "force" anything of the kind. Windows as 90% and more and the
> companies dont release their closed source. Why would they give their
> work away for Linux freetards to steal and their competitors to analyse?

Because many of those companies already have and still managed to profit 
despite the fact that their technology is freely available.

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#240898

On 4/30/14, 9:50 AM, in article ljr9kv$3nm$1@dont-email.me, "Silver Slimer"
<slvrslmr@lv.c> wrote:

> On 2014-04-30 12:32 PM, Hadron wrote:
> 
>>> You have to go into GNU/Linux with a good understanding of the philosophy of
>>> free software to enjoy it. If you know that a community of unpaid labourers
>>> is
>>> what is mostly behind the operating system, you can overlook certain
>>> problems. If you go into it expecting a true competitor to something like
>>> Windows or OS X, you'll be disappointed. That's why I think that GNU/Linux
>>> should exist ONLY in completely free form. No proprietary software
>>> whatsoever,
>> 
>> Why on earth would you think that? There ARE 100% Free versions. Use
>> that. For others that want their HW to work a mix and match is fine.
> 
> I know it's fine. However, if I had total control, I would make
> everything entirely free just as Richard Stallman advocates.

Do you not see the irony of that thought? I mean... if you had total
control... about freedom. LOL! Yeah, that is just brilliant!

> If everyone were forced to use free software and ONLY free software, the
> problems within GNU/Linux would be more apparent to the users (especially on
> the graphics side) and its users would be more willing to help in the
> improvement of the software and the drivers.

And if everyone was forced to use Windows or OS X they would have to change,
too. Personally I prefer choice.
...
>>> not even for drivers. Of course, that move will make the system unusable for
>>> many configurations. However, it will make the system's state acceptable to
>>> anyone using it and encourage people to improve faulty software on
>>> their own by
>> 
>> How will it make the "state acceptable"? Makes zero sense.
> 
> People would overlook the problems because they would know that regular
> people were behind the software, not necessarily professionals. Pay
> attention.

It is *still* not acceptable to force people to use inferior solutions.

>> A well configured Linux system is easily on a par with Windows for many
>> uses - but audio visual and gaming certainly not.
> 
> That's not what I'm arguing at all.
> 
>>> both by miles. Chances are that it would also encourage more people to use
>>> it in
>>> general (more than 2% anyway) AND force media companies to release their
>>> codecs
>>> openly rather than in closed form.
>> 
>> It wouldnt "force" anything of the kind. Windows as 90% and more and the
>> companies dont release their closed source. Why would they give their
>> work away for Linux freetards to steal and their competitors to analyse?
> 
> Because many of those companies already have and still managed to profit
> despite the fact that their technology is freely available.

And many profit based on using a different license. Or, like Apple, a mix of
open and closed source licenses.

Choice is good.

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#240891

On 4/30/14, 9:25 AM, in article ljr864$o7t$1@dont-email.me, "Silver Slimer"
<slvrslmr@lv.c> wrote:

> On 2014-04-30 10:28 AM,  flatfish+++ wrote:
> 
>>> I wonder if Chris AssStorm would suddenly find me to be reasonable and
>>> friendly if I decided to run Ubuntu again. I'll be in the market for a
>>> powerful laptop next year and hell, maybe I'll get a System76 one just
>>> to gain a +1 from the guy.
>> 
>> He, as well as the other Linux loons will automatically conclude you
>> are trolling to set them up. It's the old "try Linux, love
>> Linux,ditch Linux" tactic.
>> 
>> They are hyper paranoid around COLA.
> 
> The worst part is that I was, for a year and a half, a much more
> hardcore GNU/Linux advocate than anyone else. For one, I always refer to
> the operating system by its proper name of GNU/Linux.

Why is that any more "proper" than desktop Linux?

> I also refused to use ANY proprietary software whether it was on my own or on
> work computers. In fact, all of my media was also encoded in free formats such
> as FLAC, Ogg Vorbis and Theora. In the case of Theora, my videos CLEARLY
> looked worse than ANY video in the x.264 format but I didn't care... Theora
> was freedom. So they can call me a sock, a troll or whatever the hell they
> want but the reality is that I can be one hell of an ally if they stop
> behaving like little kids.

In other words, as with now, you were a follower of cult-like ideas. You did
not do much thinking for yourself.

>>> It's actually funny because people run into problems with GNU/Linux
>>> within the hour they installed it for the first time. Yes, all of the
>>> applications they would technically ever need are pre-installed but they
>>> generally don't work the way people would expect them to from what I've
>>> seen. In my case, I actually like the set of applications GNU/Linux
>>> distributions commonly come with and think they work great in addition
>>> to being lightweight. However, I tend to be a lot more open-minded to
>>> change than typical folks.
>> 
>> The bugs become apparent very soon after the noob installs Linux.
>> Also things like lack of decent help systems hurts.
>> Then there is the lack of full portable gadget support.
>> 
>> The bottom line is that users used to Windows or OSX will find Linux
>> and it's applications to be crude and to not be superior to Windows
>> or OSX applications so the reason to switch goes away.
>> Along with Linux BTW.
> 
> You have to go into GNU/Linux with a good understanding of the
> philosophy of free software to enjoy it.

I think Linus Torvalds enjoys his work and he shuns the word "Free".

> If you know that a community of unpaid labourers is what is mostly behind the
> operating system, you can overlook certain problems. If you go into it
> expecting a true competitor to something like Windows or OS X, you'll be
> disappointed. 

This is true, at least of desktop Linux.

> That's why I think that GNU/Linux should exist ONLY in completely free form.
> No proprietary software whatsoever, not even for drivers. Of course, that move
> will make the system unusable for many configurations. However, it will make
> the system's state acceptable to anyone using it and encourage people to
> improve faulty software on their own by taking up programming rather than
> waiting for a third-party to fix the software like Windows users do.

It would be accepting the cult-like views of Stallman. I disagree with
those, as do Linus Torvalds, Jim Zemlin, Mark Shuttleworth, and many others
who value open source software.

> A fully-free GNU/Linux wouldn't even come close to being better than either
> proprietary system, but it would ETHICALLY be better than both by miles.

I do not have an ethical problem with people using different licenses.

> Chances are that it would also encourage more people to use it in general
> (more than 2% anyway) AND force media companies to release their codecs openly
> rather than in closed form.



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#240880

On 2014-04-30 8:47 AM, chrisv wrote:
> JEDIDIAH wrote:
>
>>>> troll wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> If the advocates had their way, they'd indeed force the world to install
>>>>> GNU/Linux at gunpoint. However, they'd be using open-source guns which
>>
>>     Nope. Total false strawman.
>>
>>     It's the corporate shills that can't tolerate other people's choices.
>>
>>     That's why they come in here to troll.
>
> It is interesting how the small number of individuals that have
> wandered away from the herd have come under attack.  They are accused
> of being a cult.  Their choice is ridiculed as being inferior because,
> you know, if it was so good, why have so few left the herd?
> Amazingly, they are even accused of "herd like" behavior because they
> tend to share values which have caused them to leave the *real* herd!

That post makes no sense whatsoever.

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#240760

On 4/28/2014 3:45 PM, §ñühwö£f wrote:

<snipped garbage>

You fuck with COLA and shit follows out of that worthless NG. :)

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#240781

BurfordTJustice aka Cunt-T-Justice the hood-rat wrote:
> On 4/28/2014 3:45 PM, §ñühwö£f wrote:
> 
> <snipped garbage>
> 
> You fuck with COLA and shit follows out of that worthless NG. :)

Hmmm...thats too broad a brush for me to paint with, mate.
PC-BSD just released a new version with its own desktop...
http://www.osnews.com/story/27693/PC-BSD_is_developing_its_own_desktop_environment

Interesting :)

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#240782

§ñühwö£f <snuhwolf@yahoo.com> writes:

> BurfordTJustice aka Cunt-T-Justice the hood-rat wrote:
>> On 4/28/2014 3:45 PM, §ñühwö£f wrote:
>>
>> <snipped garbage>
>>
>> You fuck with COLA and shit follows out of that worthless NG. :)
>
> Hmmm...thats too broad a brush for me to paint with, mate.
> PC-BSD just released a new version with its own desktop...
> http://www.osnews.com/story/27693/PC-BSD_is_developing_its_own_desktop_environment
>
> Interesting :)

Just what it needs. Another bunch reinventing the wheel and coming
across the same errors the gnome and kde guys did.

But replacing KDE can only be a good thing. For all 28 users.

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#240785

On 2014-04-29 9:02 AM, Hadron wrote:
> §ñühwö£f <snuhwolf@yahoo.com> writes:
>
>> BurfordTJustice aka Cunt-T-Justice the hood-rat wrote:
>>> On 4/28/2014 3:45 PM, §ñühwö£f wrote:
>>>
>>> <snipped garbage>
>>>
>>> You fuck with COLA and shit follows out of that worthless NG. :)
>>
>> Hmmm...thats too broad a brush for me to paint with, mate.
>> PC-BSD just released a new version with its own desktop...
>> http://www.osnews.com/story/27693/PC-BSD_is_developing_its_own_desktop_environment
>>
>> Interesting :)
>
> Just what it needs. Another bunch reinventing the wheel and coming
> across the same errors the gnome and kde guys did.
>
> But replacing KDE can only be a good thing. For all 28 users.

LOL.

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#240791

On 4/29/2014 9:19 AM, Silver Slimer wrote:
> On 2014-04-29 9:02 AM, Hadron wrote:
>> §ñühwö£f <snuhwolf@yahoo.com> writes:
>>
>>> BurfordTJustice aka Cunt-T-Justice the hood-rat wrote:
>>>> On 4/28/2014 3:45 PM, §ñühwö£f wrote:
>>>>
>>>> <snipped garbage>
>>>>
>>>> You fuck with COLA and shit follows out of that worthless NG. :)
>>>
>>> Hmmm...thats too broad a brush for me to paint with, mate.
>>> PC-BSD just released a new version with its own desktop...
>>> http://www.osnews.com/story/27693/PC-BSD_is_developing_its_own_desktop_environment
>>>
>>>
>>> Interesting :)
>>
>> Just what it needs. Another bunch reinventing the wheel and coming
>> across the same errors the gnome and kde guys did.
>>
>> But replacing KDE can only be a good thing. For all 28 users.
>
> LOL.
>

Yeah, that is a god one! :)

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