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Any Math Heads Out There?

Started byFarley Flud <ff@linux.rocks>
First post2025-12-24 13:30 +0000
Last post2026-01-07 18:17 -0600
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  Any Math Heads Out There? Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-12-24 13:30 +0000
    Re: Any Meth Heads Out There? "Doc Hammerslack" <dochammerslack@creon.earth> - 2025-12-24 16:39 +0000
      Re: Any Meth Heads Out There? Farley Flud <fflud@gnu.rocks> - 2025-12-24 16:43 +0000
        Re: Any Meth Heads Out There? "Doc Hammerslack" <dochammerslack@creon.earth> - 2025-12-24 16:52 +0000
      Re: Any Meth Heads Out There? kouya <kouyaheika@canithesis.org> - 2025-12-24 21:49 -0600
        Re: Any Meth Heads Out There? "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-12-24 22:58 -0500
    Re: Any Math Heads Out There? Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-12-24 18:36 +0000
      Re: Any Math Heads Out There? "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-12-24 13:57 -0500
      Re: Any Math Heads Out There? sobriquet <dohduhdah@yahoo.com> - 2025-12-24 21:32 +0100
      Re: Any Math Heads Out There? sobriquet <dohduhdah@yahoo.com> - 2025-12-24 21:37 +0100
        Re: Any Math Heads Out There? Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-12-25 11:27 +0000
          Re: Any Math Heads Out There? sobriquet <dohduhdah@yahoo.com> - 2025-12-25 14:25 +0100
    Re: Any Math Heads Out There? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-12-24 19:23 +0000
      Re: Any Math Heads Out There? Farley Flud <fflud@gnu.rocks> - 2025-12-24 19:31 +0000
        Re: Any Math Heads Out There? "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-12-24 14:32 -0500
    Re: Any Math Heads Out There? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2025-12-28 04:27 +0100
    Re: Any Math Heads Out There? Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2026-01-03 20:06 -0600
      Re: Any Math Heads Out There? pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2026-01-04 02:17 +0000
        Re: Any Math Heads Out There? CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-01-03 21:36 -0500
          [OT] Netiquette (was: Any Math Heads Out There?) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-01-04 15:04 +0100
            Re: [OT] Netiquette "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-01-04 13:58 -0500
      Re: Any Math Heads Out There? Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2026-01-04 11:20 +0000
        Re: Any Math Heads Out There? Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2026-01-04 11:31 +0000
          Re: Any Math Heads Out There? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-01-04 15:14 +0100
          Re: Any Math Heads Out There? Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2026-01-04 19:21 -0600
            Re: Any Math Heads Out There? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-01-05 18:09 +0100
    Re: Any Math Heads Out There? Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2026-01-06 20:08 -0600
      Re: Any Math Heads Out There? John Hasler <john@sugarbit.com> - 2026-01-06 22:16 -0600
        Re: Any Math Heads Out There? Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2026-01-07 18:17 -0600

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#704219 — Re: [OT] Netiquette

From"Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2026-01-04 13:58 -0500
SubjectRe: [OT] Netiquette
Message-ID<wLy6R.338836$e72b.286418@fx44.iad>
In reply to#704173
On 1/4/26 9:04 AM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> amok-crossposted in comp.os.linux.advocacy and
> sci.physics:
>>
>> Man, how I wish I could still do math.
> 
> I wish that one would need something like a driver's license before one
> would be allowed to post to Usenet, and that that could be revoked or
> suspended if one failed to use it properly on a regular basis -- like
> violating foreign namespaces with "funny" "addresses", bothering other
> newsgroups with off-topic amok-crossposts, and full-quoting.
> 
> F'up2 poster


Oh we're *so* surprised, some geekwad from sci.physics crossposts a 
reply to bitch about crossposting, adding to the issue as he talks about 
having a license to post, full of his esoteric rules he would dictate to 
everyone.  You should really lose your virginity.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

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#704154

FromFarley Flud <ff@linux.rocks>
Date2026-01-04 11:20 +0000
Message-ID<pan$6537d$17e3e9f0$284d33c9$114762b@linux.rocks>
In reply to#704135
On Sat, 3 Jan 2026 20:06:06 -0600, Physfitfreak wrote:

> 
> They're equal. Place the two expressions on either sides of an equal 
> sign. Factor out and get rid of sin(t). Then do the following substitution:
> 
> a = square root of (3cost^2 +1)
> 

Yes.  Now try the following.  Both expressions are equal.  Reduce one
to the other:

1)

 ⎛                   _______________⎞
 ⎜  _         2     ╱              2⎟
 ⎜╲╱3 ⋅ sin(t)  ⋅ ╲╱ 4 - 3 ⋅ sin(t) ⎟
-⎜──────────────────────────────────⎟
 ⎜             4             2      ⎟
 ⎝   9 ⋅ cos(t)  + 6 ⋅ cos(t)  + 1  ⎠



2)

   _         2     _
 ╲╱3 ⋅ cos(t)  - ╲╱3
────────────────────
                 ⎛3⎞
                 ⎜─⎟
                 ⎝2⎠
⎛          2    ⎞   
⎝3 ⋅ cos(t)  + 1⎠



Again, these are another component of the 2 vectors produced by
Maxima.  The vectors are equal but Maxima has simplified each
differently.  But Maxima cannot reduce one to the other, at least
not with the default procedures.





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Gentoo: the only road to GNU/Linux freedom and perfection.

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#704155

FromFarley Flud <ff@linux.rocks>
Date2026-01-04 11:31 +0000
Message-ID<pan$9e274$80a3ac2$fc4d8a35$77171c9a@linux.rocks>
In reply to#704154
On Sun, 04 Jan 2026 11:20:03 +0000, Farley Flud wrote:

> 
> 2)
> 
>    _         2     _
>  ╲╱3 ⋅ cos(t)  - ╲╱3
> ────────────────────
>                  ⎛3⎞
>                  ⎜─⎟
>                  ⎝2⎠
> ⎛          2    ⎞   
> ⎝3 ⋅ cos(t)  + 1⎠
> 
> 
> 

For some reason, #2 did not print properly.  The numerator should
be:

sqrt(3) * cos(t)^2 - sqrt(3)





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Gentoo: the only road to GNU/Linux freedom and perfection.

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#704175

FromThomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Date2026-01-04 15:14 +0100
Message-ID<10jdsjj$lcdc$1@gwaiyur.mb-net.net>
In reply to#704155
Farley Flud amok-crossposted to comp.os.linux.advocacy and sci.physics again:
> For some reason, #2 did not print properly.  The numerator should
> be:
> 
> sqrt(3) * cos(t)^2 - sqrt(3)

Nobody *here* cares about that.  FOAD.

-- 
PointedEars

Twitter: @PointedEars2
Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.

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#704275

FromPhysfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com>
Date2026-01-04 19:21 -0600
Message-ID<10jf3m7$2mpfs$1@solani.org>
In reply to#704155
On 1/4/26 5:31 AM, Farley Flud wrote:
> On Sun, 04 Jan 2026 11:20:03 +0000, Farley Flud wrote:
> 
>>
>> 2)
>>
>>     _         2     _
>>   ╲╱3 ⋅ cos(t)  - ╲╱3
>> ────────────────────
>>                   ⎛3⎞
>>                   ⎜─⎟
>>                   ⎝2⎠
>> ⎛          2    ⎞
>> ⎝3 ⋅ cos(t)  + 1⎠
>>
>>
>>
> 
> For some reason, #2 did not print properly.  The numerator should
> be:
> 
> sqrt(3) * cos(t)^2 - sqrt(3)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 



On my screen it is properly printed.

Uploaded any of those videos of yours recently? :)

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#704369

FromThomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Date2026-01-05 18:09 +0100
Message-ID<10jgr80$sr16$1@gwaiyur.mb-net.net>
In reply to#704275
Physfitfreak crossposted to comp.os.linux.advocacy and sci.physics without
Followup-To:
> On 1/4/26 5:31 AM, Farley Flud wrote:
>> On Sun, 04 Jan 2026 11:20:03 +0000, Farley Flud wrote:
>>> 2)
>>>
>>>     _         2     _
>>>   ╲╱3 ⋅ cos(t)  - ╲╱3
>>> ────────────────────
>>>                   ⎛3⎞
>>>                   ⎜─⎟
>>>                   ⎝2⎠
>>> ⎛          2    ⎞
>>> ⎝3 ⋅ cos(t)  + 1⎠
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> For some reason, #2 did not print properly.  The numerator should
>> be:
>>
>> sqrt(3) * cos(t)^2 - sqrt(3)
> 
> On my screen it is properly printed.

To me the term looks like

  [√(3) cos(t)^2 - √(3)]/[3 cos^(t)^2 + 1]^(3/2),

but only if I use DejaVu Sans Mono 13pt (not, for example, with Consolas
12pt, another monospace font).

So this is more evidence that it is not a good idea (that should even
convince the staunchest supporter) to *draw* equations (using Unicode) in
Usenet.  [As you can see, I can find nothing wrong with *writing* Unicode
characters when using ASCII would be clumsy instead.]

F'up2 sci.math

-- 
PointedEars

Twitter: @PointedEars2
Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.

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#704507

FromPhysfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com>
Date2026-01-06 20:08 -0600
Message-ID<10jkf6e$aheh$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#703327
On 12/24/25 7:30 AM, Farley Flud wrote:
> Any math heads out there?
> 
> 
> 


This one befits a math head better:

An Iranian Ayatollah invites a penniless Iranian scientist to give him a 
visit. When the scientist visits him, he goes like:

Ayatollah: We gave this question to every engineer we could and none of 
them could answer it. Fat, thin, short, tall, rich, or super rich, 
didn't matter. None of those donkeys could answer it. Then someone said 
why not asking a scientist, so now you're here.

Scientist: What is the question?

Ayatollah: I have gathered fund to distribute a large number of spies 
throughout occupied Palestine (Israel.) All of them are non-Iranian, and 
have different ethnicity. We have divided up the entire land into as 
many zones as we plan to assign spies to. The spies will only contact 
each other if they're stationed in neighboring zones. But we do not want 
any spy have a neighboring spy of the same ethnicity.

Scientist: !.. Why not?

Ayatollah: Because if of the same ethnicity, their stupid wives will be 
talking each other's brains on the phone all day and Mossad can easily 
get suspicious of the two households.

Scientist: Oh!..

Ayatollah: So here's the problem we have. We prefer to use as few 
different ethnicity among the spies as possible. So what is the minimum 
number of different ethnicity we can limit our process to, to distribute 
them in a way to prevent any neighboring spies of same ethnicity?

And he continues:

Ayatollah: So are we done here?

Scientist: Of course not. What's in it for me? I'm not one of your 5 
million Basij slave to do it free for you.

Ayatollah: Hmm.. how about ... much in advance and another ... much 
after you come up with the answer?

The scientist takes out his smartphone and uses the astronomical number 
to convert the amount into U.S. dollar, and then:

Scientist: Holy fucking shit.. I'm in it!

So he gets the first payment and goes home, works on the problem for a 
day, and goes back and gives the answer to the Ayatollah and gets the 
final payment.

What was his answer?



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#704513

FromJohn Hasler <john@sugarbit.com>
Date2026-01-06 22:16 -0600
Message-ID<87344i5a7m.fsf@sugarbit.com>
In reply to#704507
Four, of course.
-- 
John Hasler 
john@sugarbit.com
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI USA

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#704566

FromPhysfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com>
Date2026-01-07 18:17 -0600
Message-ID<10jmt3h$2rqic$1@solani.org>
In reply to#704513
On 1/6/26 10:16 PM, John Hasler wrote:
> Four, of course.


:-)


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