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Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL

Started bySilver Slimer <slvrslmr@strtml.cm>
First post2014-05-12 12:36 -0400
Last post2014-05-13 09:08 -0700
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  Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@strtml.cm> - 2014-05-12 12:36 -0400
    Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-12 12:18 -0500
      Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-12 13:07 -0500
        Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@strtml.cm> - 2014-05-12 14:53 -0400
          Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-12 14:26 -0500
        Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-12 13:31 -0500
        Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.invalid> - 2014-05-12 21:25 +0200
          Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-12 14:47 -0500
      Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-12 20:23 +0200
        Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@strtml.cm> - 2014-05-12 15:12 -0400
          Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-12 14:38 -0500
            Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-12 15:13 -0500
              Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@strtml.cm> - 2014-05-12 20:08 -0400
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-12 17:19 -0700
                  Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-12 17:51 -0700
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-13 15:23 -0500
                  Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-13 15:48 -0500
                    Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-13 13:57 -0700
                    Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-13 18:20 -0400
                      Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-13 15:22 -0700
                    Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-14 09:40 -0400
                  Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-13 18:19 -0400
                    Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-05-14 00:49 +0200
                      Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-13 19:09 -0400
                        Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-14 15:14 -0500
                          Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-14 20:55 -0400
                            Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-15 06:47 -0500
                      Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-13 16:58 -0700
                      Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-14 06:48 -0500
                        Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-14 10:27 -0400
                          Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-14 10:53 -0400
                            Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-14 17:25 +0200
                              Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-14 12:28 -0400
                                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-14 09:42 -0700
                                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-14 22:39 -0400
                                  Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-14 19:41 -0700
                                  Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-15 08:46 -0400
                                    Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-15 17:04 -0700
                              Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2014-05-14 09:41 -0700
                            Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-14 12:22 -0400
                              Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-14 09:37 -0700
                              Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-14 18:38 +0200
                                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-14 09:52 -0700
                                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-14 12:54 -0400
                              Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-14 19:59 -0400
                            Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2014-05-14 09:24 -0700
                              Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-14 12:32 -0400
                        Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-14 15:15 -0500
                    Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-14 15:13 -0500
                      Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-14 17:21 -0400
                        Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-14 17:26 -0400
                          Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-14 17:31 -0400
                            Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-14 17:35 -0400
                              Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-14 17:41 -0400
                                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-14 17:50 -0400
                                  Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-14 15:36 -0700
                                  Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-14 19:09 -0400
                                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-16 12:59 -0400
                        Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-14 16:47 -0500
                          Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-14 20:51 -0400
              Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-12 21:30 -0700
            Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@strtml.cm> - 2014-05-12 20:05 -0400
              Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-13 15:21 -0500
            Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-13 14:45 +0200
            Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-13 17:38 -0400
      Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@strtml.cm> - 2014-05-12 14:48 -0400
        Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-12 14:24 -0500
          Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@strtml.cm> - 2014-05-12 15:48 -0400
            Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-12 15:19 -0600
            Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-12 16:53 -0500
              Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-12 17:14 -0600
              Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@strtml.cm> - 2014-05-12 20:19 -0400
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-13 15:18 -0500
                  Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-13 18:16 -0400
                    Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-14 15:12 -0500
                      Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-14 17:24 -0400
                        Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-14 17:28 -0400
                          Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-14 17:37 -0400
                            Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-14 17:44 -0400
                              Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-14 17:48 -0400
                                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-14 17:51 -0400
                        Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-14 16:51 -0500
                          Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-15 00:29 +0200
                          Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-14 19:16 -0400
                        Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-14 19:13 -0400
                          Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-14 19:32 -0400
                            Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-14 19:49 -0400
                              Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-14 20:10 -0400
                                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-14 20:21 -0400
                                  Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-14 20:34 -0400
                                    Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-14 17:49 -0700
                                  Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-14 22:58 -0400
                                    Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-14 23:15 -0400
                                      Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-14 23:19 -0400
                                        Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-14 20:29 -0700
                                      Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-15 08:19 +0200
                                      Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-15 08:56 -0400
                                        Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-15 17:18 -0700
                                    Real Life girl$$$ aren't that hot.  Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2014-05-15 03:21 -0700
                                    Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-15 08:49 -0400
                                  Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-15 08:17 +0200
                                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-14 17:30 -0700
                              Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-14 17:32 -0700
                            Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-14 17:21 -0700
              Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-13 07:02 -0500
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-13 10:17 -0400
                  Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-13 08:06 -0700
                  Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-13 08:10 -0700
                    Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-13 08:41 -0700
        Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-12 15:19 -0600
          Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@strtml.cm> - 2014-05-12 20:13 -0400
            Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-12 18:40 -0600
              Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-12 21:22 -0400
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2014-05-12 20:50 -0600
                  Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-13 10:08 -0400
                    Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-13 08:13 -0700
                    Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-13 11:18 -0600
                      Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-13 13:52 -0400
                        Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-13 12:55 -0600
                          Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-13 17:47 -0400
                            Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-13 20:09 -0600
                              Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-13 22:22 -0400
                                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-13 19:39 -0700
                                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-14 07:38 +0200
                                  Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-14 10:24 -0400
                                    Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-14 08:30 -0700
                              Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-13 19:43 -0700
    Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-13 11:21 +0100
      Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-13 10:16 -0400
        Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-13 15:37 +0100
          Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-13 16:56 +0200
            Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-13 16:01 +0100
            Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-13 11:16 -0400
              Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-13 08:18 -0700
              Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-13 16:38 +0100
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-13 12:27 -0400
                  Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-13 09:42 -0700
                  Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-13 18:35 +0100
                    Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-13 10:39 -0700
                    Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-14 09:41 -0400
                      Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-14 09:45 -0400
                        Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-14 08:33 -0700
                      Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-14 15:58 +0100
                        Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-14 08:25 -0700
                        Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2014-05-14 09:12 -0700
                          Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-14 09:29 -0700
                          Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-14 17:35 +0100
                            Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-14 18:40 +0200
                              Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2014-05-14 09:48 -0700
                              Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-14 09:50 -0700
                            Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2014-05-14 09:42 -0700
                              Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-14 17:57 +0100
                                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2014-05-14 10:07 -0700
                                  Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-14 18:36 +0100
                                    Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2014-05-14 10:51 -0700
                                      Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-14 18:55 +0100
                                        Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-14 11:51 -0700
                                    Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-14 14:41 -0400
                                      Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.invalid> - 2014-05-14 20:48 +0200
                                        Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-14 14:50 -0400
                                        Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-14 14:51 -0400
                                        Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-14 12:04 -0700
                                      Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-14 12:07 -0700
                                        Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-14 14:30 -0700
                                    Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-14 11:55 -0700
                                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-14 10:09 -0700
                            Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-14 09:49 -0700
                              Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2014-05-14 09:54 -0700
                      Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-14 17:23 +0200
                        Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-14 08:39 -0700
                      Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-14 08:33 -0700
            Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-13 12:26 -0400
              Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-13 18:51 +0200
              Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-13 18:33 +0100
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-14 09:21 -0400
                  Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-14 09:38 -0400
                    Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-14 17:21 +0200
                  Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-14 15:54 +0100
                    Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-14 12:14 -0400
                      Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-14 18:36 +0200
                      Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-14 17:46 +0100
                        Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-14 09:54 -0700
                          Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2014-05-14 10:03 -0700
                          Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-14 19:34 +0200
                            Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2014-05-14 10:44 -0700
                        Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-14 19:27 -0400
                          Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-14 16:56 -0700
                          Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-15 08:14 +0200
                          Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-15 10:18 +0100
                            Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-15 11:31 +0200
          Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-13 10:59 -0400
            Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-13 16:02 +0100
              Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-13 11:11 -0400
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-13 08:17 -0700
                  Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-13 08:39 -0700
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-13 16:37 +0100
                  Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-13 11:45 -0400
                    Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-13 16:58 +0100
                  Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2014-05-13 08:50 -0700
                  Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-13 09:08 -0700
            Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-13 11:06 -0400
              Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-13 11:11 -0400
                Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-13 08:13 -0700
      Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-13 11:30 -0400
        Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-13 11:34 -0400
          Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-13 08:38 -0700
          Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2014-05-13 08:48 -0700
            Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-13 11:21 -0600
              Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-13 10:28 -0700
              Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2014-05-13 10:43 -0700
          Re: Things That Drive Me Nuts About OpenGL Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-13 09:08 -0700

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#243799

FromHadron<hadronquark@gmail.com>
Date2014-05-15 08:17 +0200
Message-ID<871tvva7la.fsf@gmail.com>
In reply to#243753
flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> writes:

> On Wed, 14 May 2014 20:10:58 -0400, Silver Slimer wrote:
>
>> On 14-05-14 07:49 PM, DFS wrote:
>> 
>>>> If people can content themselves with gameplay topping at 1080p, any
>>>> midrange 200$ graphics card will do an excellent job for years to come
>>>> with ultra quality and AT LEAST 30fps. That, on a machine worth no more
>>>> than 400$. Essentially, 600$ will get you a PC which plays
>>>> better-looking games than anything a console cooks up for a longer
>>>> period of time and you can actually use that PC for other things like
>>>> downloading porn if that's your thing.
>>> 
>>> Of course that's my thing.
>>> 
>>> Did you hear they wanted to do a study of porn, but needed a control
>>> group of men that didn't watch porn.  They couldn't find any.
>>> 
>>> heh!
>> 
>> Any man who says he doesn't watch Internet porn is lying. Any man who
>> says he doesn't know what Cytherea is is a FILTHY liar. :)
>
> I had to take Greek Mythology in high school and I remember that
> name. Other than that??????
>
> What puzzles me is why guys need to go to porn to satisfy themselves.
> Doesn't make sense to me.
> At least not for average men involved in relationships.
> Single, geeks, oddballs I can understand.
> Not judging, just curious.

You do understand it. Because men, like women (and dont pretend its
otherwise), all like a bit of "strange". And internet provides that
without the risk.

(caveat : not ALL but most)

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#243756

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2014-05-14 17:30 -0700
Message-ID<CF99589B.374F0%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#243750
On 5/14/14, 5:10 PM, in article ll10mj$pks$1@dont-email.me, "Silver Slimer"
<ndr@slvrlps.c> wrote:

>> I always hear Apple devotees referred to as smug or iCultists, etc., but
>> I haven't actually ever talked to one.  Even the Apple Store employees I
>> talked to weren't like that.
> 
> The Apple Store employees I talked to actually liked their job and
> seemed fairly knowledgeable. I was very surprised to be honest.

I have always had amazingly good support from Apple. I had recent graphic
problems... I and Apple thought it was hardware (I showed them a video of
the problem). Two days later they had someone at my house - he replaced my
logicboard (with its CPU), my GPU, and the fans in the computer (there was
also a high pitched sound coming from the machine from time to time).

Oddly enough it did not fix the problem - nor did re-installing the OS. Next
is to try a new user account. Sorta backwards troubleshooting there, but
with the weird graphic glitches it seemed to be hardware related. It has
only happened in one program since the hardware updates - and even then it
was mostly happening with that program (CyberDuck), but it also happened
elsewhere a number of times (or at least similar video oddities).

>>> This might not be true for much longer. As it is, Tim Cook has been
>>> absolutely awful on that front. Apple is quickly turning into the
>>> post-Steve Jobs Apple from 1985 to 1997. While I don't think Apple will
>>> ever go bankrupt, they will definitely hurt their reputation if they
>>> continue to be the status quo company they currently are.
>> 
>> The latest MacPro is extremely innovative.  Like no other desktop ever
>> produced.
>> 
>> And I read their shares are up 56% since Cook became CEO.  Nice.
> 
> Wow, that's a surprising revelation. I was convinced that things were
> going downhill. If he's managed to increase the value of the stocks by
> literally doing absolutely nothing, it speaks volumes about Apple's
> influence as well as the health of the company.

<http://goo.gl/r6O6JW>
    -----
    Wall Street is still taking a wait-and-see attitude with Cook.
    Apple's stock ended last week at $585.24, well below its peak of
    $705.07 reached in September 2012, but still a 56 per cent gain
    since Cook became CEO.
    -----

He has done a lot - if nothing else really improving Apple in areas of
environmental and other social concerns. Still, I know what you are saying -
other than the Mac Pro what do we have? Mavericks is a decent update but
nothing amazing (though OS X *finally* got decent memory handling). The Mac
Pro seems great... and some of the pro apps got decent upgrades (the speed
alone of the video software is amazing). Other than that: iWork updates that
are pretty bad (still no ability to resize to width and have it stick if you
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#243757

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2014-05-14 17:32 -0700
Message-ID<CF995921.374F2%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#243742
On 5/14/14, 4:49 PM, in article ll0vee$j0s$1@dont-email.me, "DFS"
<nospam@dfs.com> wrote:

>> If people can content themselves with gameplay topping at 1080p, any
>> midrange 200$ graphics card will do an excellent job for years to come
>> with ultra quality and AT LEAST 30fps. That, on a machine worth no more
>> than 400$. Essentially, 600$ will get you a PC which plays
>> better-looking games than anything a console cooks up for a longer
>> period of time and you can actually use that PC for other things like
>> downloading porn if that's your thing.
> 
> Of course that's my thing.
> 
> Did you hear they wanted to do a study of porn, but needed a control
> group of men that didn't watch porn.  They couldn't find any.
> 
> heh!

Yes... I read that study. Quite funny.

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#243754

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2014-05-14 17:21 -0700
Message-ID<CF99567E.374EE%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#243739
On 5/14/14, 4:32 PM, in article ll0ufd$e0r$1@dont-email.me, "Silver Slimer"
<ndr@slvrlps.c> wrote:

>> I had to remind the blithering bozo:
>> 
>> * Apple desktop market share is 7.5% (which is 5x that of Linux).
> 
> If I'm not mistaken, it's actually higher, closer to 9.5% or 10%.
> However, my numbers might not be as recent as yours.

For the world it is something like 7.5%... for the U.S. considerably higher.

>> * was the most valuable corporation in the world
> 
> More valuable than Microsoft with more money in the bank.

More money than the U.S. government.

>> * stellar reputation for innovation
> 
> This might not be true for much longer.

Might not be - but they do have that reputation.

> As it is, Tim Cook has been absolutely awful on that front.

It takes years to come up with the new product categories... and no doubt
Cook changed direction on some. Still, I agree there is some concern.

> Apple is quickly turning into the post-Steve Jobs Apple from 1985 to 1997.

Well, not so quickly... but they might be heading that way.

> While I don't think Apple will ever go bankrupt, they will definitely hurt
> their reputation if they continue to be the status quo company they currently
> are.

It is time they do something else to wow people. A big challenge with their
business model is they find markets that already exist but are served
poorly. They change these markets radically... but it is inevitable that
others will copy their successes. Even if they stay ahead of the game, the
difference is reduced. This happened in desktop computers, music players,
tablets, and more. The competition may or may not be as good, but it becomes
good enough. Apple then needs to innovate elsewhere.

I, frankly, was amazed at how many times they pulled rabbits out of their
hats to keep doing this. With our without Jobs, though, this is a hard thing
to maintain.

>> * many years of the highest customer satisfaction ratings
>>   in the industry
> 
> Every article I've read agrees with this assessment.

There are occasional counter-examples, but overall very true.

>> * Fortune magazine's most admired company in the world
>>   seven years in a row
> 
> Absolutely.

Yup.

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#243354

Fromchrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid>
Date2014-05-13 07:02 -0500
Message-ID<jh14n9tiof62n1e3r59rjebba5e6h4p2na@4ax.com>
In reply to#243244
JEDIDIAH wrote:

> Slimer wrote:
>> JEDIDIAH wrote:
>>> Slimer wrote:
>>>> JEDIDIAH wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>    It's also more than 3 platforms. It's more like 7+.
>>>>>
>>>>>    Anything that's not Microsoft is going to require leaving Direct3D behind.
>>>>>
>>>>>    Game consoles...
>>>>>
>>>>>    All of those phones, tablets, and streamers...
>>>>>
>>>>>    Linux or MacOS are just the tip of the iceberg.
>>>>
>>>> There might be more platforms but it would be laughable to suggest BSD
>>>> or something like Solaris ever becoming a gaming platform.
>>> 
>>> You are the only idiot suggesting such a thing.
>>
>> Ah, name-calling. Beautiful.

Coming from a trolling asshole who *lies* to attack, that's *very*
rich.

>> Were you suggesting platforms like iOS and Android? If so, you could
>> have made it more clear that you weren't referring only to desktop
>> platforms.

He explicitly stated "game consoles" and "phones, tablets, and
streamers", you worthless twit.

Even if Jed had not stated *exactly* what he was talking about, only a
genuinely brain-damaged moron would think for a moment that he was
talking about BSD, or Solaris!

Sheesh!  Unbelievable!

>If you are going to blather baout something, at
>least pretend that you have half a clue about it.    

At least you got to rebut the moron's idiotic attack.  I don't even
want to think about the ridiculous lies and idiocy that is used to
attack me "behind my back", and *always* based upon some stupid lying
troll's ridiculous, *completely* wrong interpretation of what I wrote.

Fortunately, anyone with a brain immediately can see who is the
decent, honest, intelligent person, and who is the stupid, dishonest
asshole.

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#243370

FromSilver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c>
Date2014-05-13 10:17 -0400
Message-ID<lkt9ij$cvp$5@dont-email.me>
In reply to#243354
On 14-05-13 08:02 AM, chrisv wrote:

>>> Ah, name-calling. Beautiful.
> 
> Coming from a trolling asshole who *lies* to attack, that's *very*
> rich.

By all means, point out where I lied.

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#243378

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2014-05-13 08:06 -0700
Message-ID<CF978315.3726D%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#243370
On 5/13/14, 7:17 AM, in article lkt9ij$cvp$5@dont-email.me, "Silver Slimer"
<ndr@slvrlps.c> wrote:

> On 14-05-13 08:02 AM, chrisv wrote:
> 
>>>> Ah, name-calling. Beautiful.
>> 
>> Coming from a trolling asshole who *lies* to attack, that's *very*
>> rich.
> 
> By all means, point out where I lied.

Here are some of your fairly recent lies (if you need exact quotes I am sure
I can dig those up):

* A point was made specific to Texas. I asked for details.
- You lie about me thinking Texas is not a part of the U.S. In short
  you know you have nothing to back the specific point made (no other
  reason for you to run so fast!)

* The video on the NRA stands unrefuted.
- You lie about it not having falsifiable info. It does.
  No reason to think it is not right on those claims.

* The Cliven Bundy nonsense where a trespassing thief is demanding
  government handouts and arguing against the right to bear arms as he
  denies the existence of this government but runs around carrying the
  U.S. flag! He also spews tons of racist nonsense. Add to that the
  right-wing Christian terrorists backing this moron and you have all
  kinds of crazy wrapped up in one bat-shit crazy package.
- You lie and claim that the fact he is getting attention shows he is
  not spewing nonsense. Completely irrational. Then you sink to name
  calling and personal attacks. Your typical "out" when you know you
  are wrong.
  
* ObamaCare: hardly perfect but clearly a huge step forward for the
  country.
- You lie about it being unconstitutional and then sink to racist
  nonsense.

* You spew racist nonsense.
- You say this is fine because you do not feel racist and it is not
  illegal for you to be one. You are a racist. Period.
  
* Canada being liberal *compared to the U.S.*: this is clearly true
  given how the Canadian public repeatedly shows support for the
  Democratic candidate in U.S. elections (generally by a wide margin)
- You deny I am right as you show you cannot understand what is being
  said, and then jump to your insults.
  
* You spoke of the *adding* of something as "negative" reinforcement,
  the "negative" in the context of "negative reinforcement"
  specifically refers to the *removal* of something. You simply are
  wrong, by the definition of the terms being used.
- You deny it and spew your typical attacks.



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#243380

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2014-05-13 08:10 -0700
Message-ID<CF97840C.37275%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#243370
On 5/13/14, 7:17 AM, in article lkt9ij$cvp$5@dont-email.me, "Silver Slimer"
<ndr@slvrlps.c> wrote:

> On 14-05-13 08:02 AM, chrisv wrote:
> 
>>>> Ah, name-calling. Beautiful.
>> 
>> Coming from a trolling asshole who *lies* to attack, that's *very*
>> rich.
> 
> By all means, point out where I lied.

Here are just some lies from you (or at least claims made completely
contrary to reality). Warning... this post is very long!

  Silver Slimer:
    -----
    Every household HAS to have a firearm and they have crime rates
    BELOW the rest of America? But the liberals told me this was
    IMPOSSIBLE!
    -----
But as far as you have shown, nobody of any political leaning has told you
this. Even if one did, or a small number, your implication is that this is
what most liberals are saying. That is completely unsupported - and this was
done in the context of a video where reasonable and responsible gun owners
were discussed. 

  Silver Slimer (speaking of "Its opposition to sensible gun laws"):
    -----
    Does the Constitution give every citizen the right to bear arms?
    Yes? Remove the first point then.
    -----
This implied that any law dealing with gun regulations is unconstitutional.
This is clearly not true.

  Silver Slimer:
    -----
    The problem with the video is that his "points" aren't points at all.
    -----
But of course they were points. You might not agree with them, but you lied
and denied they even existed because you could not refute them.

  Silver Slimer:
    -----
    An armed citizen is a safe citizen.
    -----
This is demonstrably not true based on the number of accidental gun deaths
and people using guns to try to defend themselves but still being injured or
killed. The evidence of them even being safer than others is unclear - no
less just "safe" in general.

  Silver Slimer:
    -----
    The government is your friend, I get it.
    -----
There is good and bad to the government. While I certainly would not want to
live without one at all, I have never suggested I support all of what it
does. Not even close. Your claim was in response to my noting nonsense
conspiracy claims are silly... not even anything about the government.

  Silver Slimer:
    -----
    I hope you also respect the fact that I won't participate in
    this thread at all.
    -----
But you continued to over and over.

  Silver Slimer:
    -----
    My threads were out of whack but Snit seems to have completely
    ignored the fact that the lands he referred to were *NOT* public
    land.
    -----
I only referred to the lands Bundy was being told to stop trespassing on -
Federal lands. Public lands. I am not sure, but I believe they have been
since they were purchased from Mexico in the 1800s.

  Silver Slimer:
    -----
    Apparently you didn't follow the story AT ALL and decided to
    believe  whatever the government-sponsored media decided was the
    truth.
    -----
I had not mentioned any source - and certainly did not imply I was basing my
views only on what PBS, NPR, and other government sponsored media was
saying.

  Silver Slimer:
    -----
    You're asking us to debate very subjective points made by an
    insignificant human being with no academic credentials.
    -----
I do not believe I ever asked anyone to debate the subject - I am open to
seeing where you think I did. But as far as the claim of the points being
subjective, that is demonstrably untrue. There are many objective points
made. 

  Silver Slimer:
    -----
    There is nothing to refute.
    -----
This is in reference to a video with many falsifiable points. It simply is
not true that there are not points one could try to refute if they disagreed
with them.

  Silver Slimer:
    -----
    Therefore, right-wingers in general are all stupid and what they
    say doesn't matter.
    ----
You were falsely attributing this thought to me. If was extremely dishonest
of you given how I never said anything of the sort and strongly disagree
with the view.

 Silver Slimer:
    -----
    The very idea of implementing laws which lessen or nullify the
    Second Amendment is exactly that.
    -----
This was said in reference to a video that did not suggest nullifying the
second amendment in whole or in part. Nor did anyone else in the discussion
about it.

  Silver Slimer:
    -----
    Evidence has already been shown to you and I know that you've
    seen it, yet you persist in claiming the exact opposite of what
    that evidence states.
    -----
I never denied anything contrary to the evidence in the NRA thread, no less
"persisted" in doing so.

  Silver Slimer:
    -----
    Snit only seems to rely on CNN and MSNBC, known propagandists,
    for his news. 
    -----
This was after you attacked me for using a source other than these two. You
knew your claim was false.

  Silver Slimer:
    -----
    Every single time you point to the video, you're suggesting that
    it has some sort of worth to the discussion. OPINIONS HAVE NO
    WORTH IN ANY DEBATE.
    -----
This is in response to a video with many falsifiable claims. You responded
with many opinions... which here you claim have no value!

  Silver Slimer:
    -----
    You've systematically disregarded his hundreds of illegal
    executive orders.
    -----
Unsupported nonsense. In fact, you admit yourself you will not even try to
show them. How can I "disregard" what has not even been shown! Your claim is
irrational and dishonest.

  Silver Slimer:
    -----
    ANY FUCKING LAW INFLUENCING GUN OWNERSHIP WILL EITHER LESSEN OR
    NULLIFY THE SECOND AMENDMENT.
    -----
Clearly untrue, especially since the second amendment is a part of the law!
How can a law nullify or lessen itself? Why would other related laws do so
necessarily? Completely irrational nonsense.

  Silver Slimer:
    -----
    The very suggestion of a new gun law is indeed an attack on the
    Second Amendment.
    -----
An opinion... the very thing you claimed has no worth.

  Silver Slimer:
    -----
    What kind of fucking kool- aid did your friend Obama have you
    drink for you to be unable to grasp something so fucking simple?
    -----
Here you dishonestly tie a discussion on the NRA to Obama, who is not even a
member as far as I know and certainly does not speak for them, nor was he
mentioned in the video or by me in this discussion.

  Silver Slimer:
    -----
    You keep believing that you're objective all the while
    disregarding anything which might be even slightly right of the
    leftist beliefs you hold.
    -----
Given how I have repeatedly talked about where I disagree with the American
left this is clearly not true. A lie.

  Silver Slimer:
    -----
    Every single one of your positions is a left one down to your
    disgust with religion and inability to see ANYTHING positive
    about faith. 
    -----
I have specifically talked about positive attributes of faith. Your claim is
directly contrary to truth.

  Silver Slimer:
    -----
    Being "you" means rehashing every Marxist idea under the sun and
    treating it as the most intelligent statement ever with a
    complete disregard for any differing opinion.
    -----
A completely unsupported and dishonest representation of my views.

  Silver Slimer:
    -----
    The video is a piece of propaganda in the vein of "The Jew Suss"
    used by Nazi Germany.
    -----
Complete nonsense. And if true you would be able to show where the
falsifiable claims were incorrect. You never did.

  Silver Slimer:
    -----
    Let's have laws in which people need to register their firearms
    and have them be confiscated for registering incorrectly as well
    as mandatory psychological tests which can evaluate even normal
    people as being crazy and therefore discard their right to own a
    gun... but neither one of these two in ANY WAY limits their
    right to own a gun.
    -----
Nothing in the video suggested mandatory psychological tests. This was a
complete fabrication on your part.



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#243400

FromSteve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2014-05-13 08:41 -0700
Message-ID<f39dbef2-9dd3-482a-8b7f-4e364ac28659@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#243380
On Tuesday, May 13, 2014 3:10:52 PM UTC, Snit wrote:
> On 5/13/14, 7:17 AM, in article lkt9ij$cvp$5@dont-email.me, "Silver Slimer"
> 
> <ndr@slvrlps.c> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> > On 14-05-13 08:02 AM, chrisv wrote:
> 
> > 
> 
> >>>> Ah, name-calling. Beautiful.
> 
> >> 
> 
> >> Coming from a trolling asshole who *lies* to attack, that's *very*
> 
> >> rich.
> 
> > 
> 
> > By all means, point out where I lied.
> 
> 
> 
> Here are just some lies from you (or at least claims made completely
> 
> contrary to reality). Warning... this post is very long!
> 
> 
> 
>   Silver Slimer:
> 
>     -----
> 
>     Every household HAS to have a firearm and they have crime rates
> 
>     BELOW the rest of America? But the liberals told me this was
> 
>     IMPOSSIBLE!
> 
>     -----
> 
> But as far as you have shown, nobody of any political leaning has told you
> 
> this. Even if one did, or a small number, your implication is that this is
> 
> what most liberals are saying. That is completely unsupported - and this was
> 
> done in the context of a video where reasonable and responsible gun owners
> 
> were discussed. 
> 
> 
> 
>   Silver Slimer (speaking of "Its opposition to sensible gun laws"):
> 
>     -----
> 
>     Does the Constitution give every citizen the right to bear arms?
> 
>     Yes? Remove the first point then.
> 
>     -----
> 
> This implied that any law dealing with gun regulations is unconstitutional.
> 
> This is clearly not true.
> 
> 
> 
>   Silver Slimer:
> 
>     -----
> 
>     The problem with the video is that his "points" aren't points at all.
> 
>     -----
> 
> But of course they were points. You might not agree with them, but you lied
> 
> and denied they even existed because you could not refute them.
> 
> 
> 
>   Silver Slimer:
> 
>     -----
> 
>     An armed citizen is a safe citizen.
> 
>     -----
> 
> This is demonstrably not true based on the number of accidental gun deaths
> 
> and people using guns to try to defend themselves but still being injured or
> 
> killed. The evidence of them even being safer than others is unclear - no
> 
> less just "safe" in general.
> 
> 
> 
>   Silver Slimer:
> 
>     -----
> 
>     The government is your friend, I get it.
> 
>     -----
> 
> There is good and bad to the government. While I certainly would not want to
> 
> live without one at all, I have never suggested I support all of what it
> 
> does. Not even close. Your claim was in response to my noting nonsense
> 
> conspiracy claims are silly... not even anything about the government.
> 
> 
> 
>   Silver Slimer:
> 
>     -----
> 
>     I hope you also respect the fact that I won't participate in
> 
>     this thread at all.
> 
>     -----
> 
> But you continued to over and over.
> 
> 
> 
>   Silver Slimer:
> 
>     -----
> 
>     My threads were out of whack but Snit seems to have completely
> 
>     ignored the fact that the lands he referred to were *NOT* public
> 
>     land.
> 
>     -----
> 
> I only referred to the lands Bundy was being told to stop trespassing on -
> 
> Federal lands. Public lands. I am not sure, but I believe they have been
> 
> since they were purchased from Mexico in the 1800s.
> 
> 
> 
>   Silver Slimer:
> 
>     -----
> 
>     Apparently you didn't follow the story AT ALL and decided to
> 
>     believe  whatever the government-sponsored media decided was the
> 
>     truth.
> 
>     -----
> 
> I had not mentioned any source - and certainly did not imply I was basing my
> 
> views only on what PBS, NPR, and other government sponsored media was
> 
> saying.
> 
> 
> 
>   Silver Slimer:
> 
>     -----
> 
>     You're asking us to debate very subjective points made by an
> 
>     insignificant human being with no academic credentials.
> 
>     -----
> 
> I do not believe I ever asked anyone to debate the subject - I am open to
> 
> seeing where you think I did. But as far as the claim of the points being
> 
> subjective, that is demonstrably untrue. There are many objective points
> 
> made. 
> 
> 
> 
>   Silver Slimer:
> 
>     -----
> 
>     There is nothing to refute.
> 
>     -----
> 
> This is in reference to a video with many falsifiable points. It simply is
> 
> not true that there are not points one could try to refute if they disagreed
> 
> with them.
> 
> 
> 
>   Silver Slimer:
> 
>     -----
> 
>     Therefore, right-wingers in general are all stupid and what they
> 
>     say doesn't matter.
> 
>     ----
> 
> You were falsely attributing this thought to me. If was extremely dishonest
> 
> of you given how I never said anything of the sort and strongly disagree
> 
> with the view.
> 
> 
> 
>  Silver Slimer:
> 
>     -----
> 
>     The very idea of implementing laws which lessen or nullify the
> 
>     Second Amendment is exactly that.
> 
>     -----
> 
> This was said in reference to a video that did not suggest nullifying the
> 
> second amendment in whole or in part. Nor did anyone else in the discussion
> 
> about it.
> 
> 
> 
>   Silver Slimer:
> 
>     -----
> 
>     Evidence has already been shown to you and I know that you've
> 
>     seen it, yet you persist in claiming the exact opposite of what
> 
>     that evidence states.
> 
>     -----
> 
> I never denied anything contrary to the evidence in the NRA thread, no less
> 
> "persisted" in doing so.
> 
> 
> 
>   Silver Slimer:
> 
>     -----
> 
>     Snit only seems to rely on CNN and MSNBC, known propagandists,
> 
>     for his news. 
> 
>     -----
> 
> This was after you attacked me for using a source other than these two. You
> 
> knew your claim was false.
> 
> 
> 
>   Silver Slimer:
> 
>     -----
> 
>     Every single time you point to the video, you're suggesting that
> 
>     it has some sort of worth to the discussion. OPINIONS HAVE NO
> 
>     WORTH IN ANY DEBATE.
> 
>     -----
> 
> This is in response to a video with many falsifiable claims. You responded
> 
> with many opinions... which here you claim have no value!
> 
> 
> 
>   Silver Slimer:
> 
>     -----
> 
>     You've systematically disregarded his hundreds of illegal
> 
>     executive orders.
> 
>     -----
> 
> Unsupported nonsense. In fact, you admit yourself you will not even try to
> 
> show them. How can I "disregard" what has not even been shown! Your claim is
> 
> irrational and dishonest.
> 
> 
> 
>   Silver Slimer:
> 
>     -----
> 
>     ANY FUCKING LAW INFLUENCING GUN OWNERSHIP WILL EITHER LESSEN OR
> 
>     NULLIFY THE SECOND AMENDMENT.
> 
>     -----
> 
> Clearly untrue, especially since the second amendment is a part of the law!
> 
> How can a law nullify or lessen itself? Why would other related laws do so
> 
> necessarily? Completely irrational nonsense.
> 
> 
> 
>   Silver Slimer:
> 
>     -----
> 
>     The very suggestion of a new gun law is indeed an attack on the
> 
>     Second Amendment.
> 
>     -----
> 
> An opinion... the very thing you claimed has no worth.
> 
> 
> 
>   Silver Slimer:
> 
>     -----
> 
>     What kind of fucking kool- aid did your friend Obama have you
> 
>     drink for you to be unable to grasp something so fucking simple?
> 
>     -----
> 
> Here you dishonestly tie a discussion on the NRA to Obama, who is not even a
> 
> member as far as I know and certainly does not speak for them, nor was he
> 
> mentioned in the video or by me in this discussion.
> 
> 
> 
>   Silver Slimer:
> 
>     -----
> 
>     You keep believing that you're objective all the while
> 
>     disregarding anything which might be even slightly right of the
> 
>     leftist beliefs you hold.
> 
>     -----
> 
> Given how I have repeatedly talked about where I disagree with the American
> 
> left this is clearly not true. A lie.
> 
> 
> 
>   Silver Slimer:
> 
>     -----
> 
>     Every single one of your positions is a left one down to your
> 
>     disgust with religion and inability to see ANYTHING positive
> 
>     about faith. 
> 
>     -----
> 
> I have specifically talked about positive attributes of faith. Your claim is
> 
> directly contrary to truth.
> 
> 
> 
>   Silver Slimer:
> 
>     -----
> 
>     Being "you" means rehashing every Marxist idea under the sun and
> 
>     treating it as the most intelligent statement ever with a
> 
>     complete disregard for any differing opinion.
> 
>     -----
> 
> A completely unsupported and dishonest representation of my views.
> 
> 
> 
>   Silver Slimer:
> 
>     -----
> 
>     The video is a piece of propaganda in the vein of "The Jew Suss"
> 
>     used by Nazi Germany.
> 
>     -----
> 
> Complete nonsense. And if true you would be able to show where the
> 
> falsifiable claims were incorrect. You never did.
> 
> 
> 
>   Silver Slimer:
> 
>     -----
> 
>     Let's have laws in which people need to register their firearms
> 
>     and have them be confiscated for registering incorrectly as well
> 
>     as mandatory psychological tests which can evaluate even normal
> 
>     people as being crazy and therefore discard their right to own a
> 
>     gun... but neither one of these two in ANY WAY limits their
> 
>     right to own a gun.
> 
>     -----
> 
> Nothing in the video suggested mandatory psychological tests. This was a
> 
> complete fabrication on your part.
> 
> 
The list of lies you have told is shown in the Snit List which includes hundreds of people and is always growing.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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#243237

FromGreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com>
Date2014-05-12 15:19 -0600
Message-ID<HJmdnQqdgbdUp-zOnZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@bresnan.com>
In reply to#243194
On 5/12/2014 12:48 PM, Silver Slimer wrote:
> On 14-05-12 01:18 PM, JEDIDIAH wrote:
>> On 2014-05-12, Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@strtml.cm> wrote:
>>> Some of it might explain why most new games use DirectX rather than
>>> OpenGL which would have made it easy to port games to all three platforms.
>>
>> ...and the fact that the monopoly desktop vendor has their own standard
>> that they like to push has nothing to do with it.
>>
>> [deletia]
>>
>>    It's also more than 3 platforms. It's more like 7+.
>>
>>    Anything that's not Microsoft is going to require leaving Direct3D behind.
>>
>>    Game consoles...
>>
>>    All of those phones, tablets, and streamers...
>>
>>    Linux or MacOS are just the tip of the iceberg.
> 
> There might be more platforms but it would be laughable to suggest BSD
> or something like Solaris ever becoming a gaming platform.
> 
I wouldn't say that about solaris these days.  They've pretty much
dumped CDE desktop and is now mostly gnome + java.  Their OpenGL for
Intel is MESA anyway.  So if you can write a game for linux with OpenGL
you can do the same for solaris.  Besides, Oracle managed to purge the
fat out of the os and now it boots up a lot faster than Linux and the
programs run faster.


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#243274

FromSilver Slimer <slvrslmr@strtml.cm>
Date2014-05-12 20:13 -0400
Message-ID<lkro2f$hsi$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#243237
On 14-05-12 05:19 PM, GreyCloud wrote:
> On 5/12/2014 12:48 PM, Silver Slimer wrote:
>> On 14-05-12 01:18 PM, JEDIDIAH wrote:
>>> On 2014-05-12, Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@strtml.cm> wrote:
>>>> Some of it might explain why most new games use DirectX rather than
>>>> OpenGL which would have made it easy to port games to all three platforms.
>>>
>>> ...and the fact that the monopoly desktop vendor has their own standard
>>> that they like to push has nothing to do with it.
>>>
>>> [deletia]
>>>
>>>    It's also more than 3 platforms. It's more like 7+.
>>>
>>>    Anything that's not Microsoft is going to require leaving Direct3D behind.
>>>
>>>    Game consoles...
>>>
>>>    All of those phones, tablets, and streamers...
>>>
>>>    Linux or MacOS are just the tip of the iceberg.
>>
>> There might be more platforms but it would be laughable to suggest BSD
>> or something like Solaris ever becoming a gaming platform.
>>
> I wouldn't say that about solaris these days.  They've pretty much
> dumped CDE desktop and is now mostly gnome + java.  Their OpenGL for
> Intel is MESA anyway.  So if you can write a game for linux with OpenGL
> you can do the same for solaris.  Besides, Oracle managed to purge the
> fat out of the os and now it boots up a lot faster than Linux and the
> programs run faster.

If that's the case, that's very good. I wonder what the usage of the OS
is though.

-- 
Silver Slimer
Wikipedia & OpenMedia Supporter

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#243285

FromGreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com>
Date2014-05-12 18:40 -0600
Message-ID<2OidnV64IeqR9-zOnZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@bresnan.com>
In reply to#243274
On 5/12/2014 6:13 PM, Silver Slimer wrote:
> On 14-05-12 05:19 PM, GreyCloud wrote:
>> On 5/12/2014 12:48 PM, Silver Slimer wrote:
>>> On 14-05-12 01:18 PM, JEDIDIAH wrote:
>>>> On 2014-05-12, Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@strtml.cm> wrote:
>>>>> Some of it might explain why most new games use DirectX rather than
>>>>> OpenGL which would have made it easy to port games to all three platforms.
>>>>
>>>> ...and the fact that the monopoly desktop vendor has their own standard
>>>> that they like to push has nothing to do with it.
>>>>
>>>> [deletia]
>>>>
>>>>    It's also more than 3 platforms. It's more like 7+.
>>>>
>>>>    Anything that's not Microsoft is going to require leaving Direct3D behind.
>>>>
>>>>    Game consoles...
>>>>
>>>>    All of those phones, tablets, and streamers...
>>>>
>>>>    Linux or MacOS are just the tip of the iceberg.
>>>
>>> There might be more platforms but it would be laughable to suggest BSD
>>> or something like Solaris ever becoming a gaming platform.
>>>
>> I wouldn't say that about solaris these days.  They've pretty much
>> dumped CDE desktop and is now mostly gnome + java.  Their OpenGL for
>> Intel is MESA anyway.  So if you can write a game for linux with OpenGL
>> you can do the same for solaris.  Besides, Oracle managed to purge the
>> fat out of the os and now it boots up a lot faster than Linux and the
>> programs run faster.
> 
> If that's the case, that's very good. I wonder what the usage of the OS
> is though.
> 
Pretty poor, because Larry Ellison has made a few strategic errors in
the Sun Sparc product line up.  He's dumped the workstation concept and
now only sells servers, while ignoring a vast market potential for the
Desktop or mobile devices.  If he had, he'd be selling a lot more
servers and other products.  He also doesn't seem to get the desktop
metaphor correctly.  Not everyone wants a tablet or a smart phone to do
work on, and business offices want desktops.


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#243310

FromSilver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c>
Date2014-05-12 21:22 -0400
Message-ID<lkrs5b$5nd$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#243285
On 14-05-12 08:40 PM, GreyCloud wrote:
> On 5/12/2014 6:13 PM, Silver Slimer wrote:
>> On 14-05-12 05:19 PM, GreyCloud wrote:
>>> On 5/12/2014 12:48 PM, Silver Slimer wrote:
>>>> On 14-05-12 01:18 PM, JEDIDIAH wrote:
>>>>> On 2014-05-12, Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@strtml.cm> wrote:
>>>>>> Some of it might explain why most new games use DirectX rather than
>>>>>> OpenGL which would have made it easy to port games to all three platforms.
>>>>>
>>>>> ...and the fact that the monopoly desktop vendor has their own standard
>>>>> that they like to push has nothing to do with it.
>>>>>
>>>>> [deletia]
>>>>>
>>>>>    It's also more than 3 platforms. It's more like 7+.
>>>>>
>>>>>    Anything that's not Microsoft is going to require leaving Direct3D behind.
>>>>>
>>>>>    Game consoles...
>>>>>
>>>>>    All of those phones, tablets, and streamers...
>>>>>
>>>>>    Linux or MacOS are just the tip of the iceberg.
>>>>
>>>> There might be more platforms but it would be laughable to suggest BSD
>>>> or something like Solaris ever becoming a gaming platform.
>>>>
>>> I wouldn't say that about solaris these days.  They've pretty much
>>> dumped CDE desktop and is now mostly gnome + java.  Their OpenGL for
>>> Intel is MESA anyway.  So if you can write a game for linux with OpenGL
>>> you can do the same for solaris.  Besides, Oracle managed to purge the
>>> fat out of the os and now it boots up a lot faster than Linux and the
>>> programs run faster.
>>
>> If that's the case, that's very good. I wonder what the usage of the OS
>> is though.
>>
> Pretty poor, because Larry Ellison has made a few strategic errors in
> the Sun Sparc product line up.  He's dumped the workstation concept and
> now only sells servers, while ignoring a vast market potential for the
> Desktop or mobile devices.  If he had, he'd be selling a lot more
> servers and other products.  He also doesn't seem to get the desktop
> metaphor correctly.  Not everyone wants a tablet or a smart phone to do
> work on, and business offices want desktops.

I enjoyed my Windows 8 tablet for about 4 days. After that, I just
needed to be on a traditional laptop again. I mostly can't stand the
reflective screen but I have to admit that touching sucks. I really
really don't like it and it makes me feel like a beginner.

-- 
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#243312

FromGreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com>
Date2014-05-12 20:50 -0600
Message-ID<XpGdnfJ85f_DFezOnZ2dnUVZ_gKdnZ2d@bresnan.com>
In reply to#243310
On 05/12/14 19:22, Silver Slimer wrote:
> On 14-05-12 08:40 PM, GreyCloud wrote:
>> On 5/12/2014 6:13 PM, Silver Slimer wrote:
>>> On 14-05-12 05:19 PM, GreyCloud wrote:
>>>> On 5/12/2014 12:48 PM, Silver Slimer wrote:
>>>>> On 14-05-12 01:18 PM, JEDIDIAH wrote:
>>>>>> On 2014-05-12, Silver Slimer<slvrslmr@strtml.cm>  wrote:
>>>>>>> Some of it might explain why most new games use DirectX rather than
>>>>>>> OpenGL which would have made it easy to port games to all three platforms.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...and the fact that the monopoly desktop vendor has their own standard
>>>>>> that they like to push has nothing to do with it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [deletia]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     It's also more than 3 platforms. It's more like 7+.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Anything that's not Microsoft is going to require leaving Direct3D behind.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Game consoles...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     All of those phones, tablets, and streamers...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Linux or MacOS are just the tip of the iceberg.
>>>>>
>>>>> There might be more platforms but it would be laughable to suggest BSD
>>>>> or something like Solaris ever becoming a gaming platform.
>>>>>
>>>> I wouldn't say that about solaris these days.  They've pretty much
>>>> dumped CDE desktop and is now mostly gnome + java.  Their OpenGL for
>>>> Intel is MESA anyway.  So if you can write a game for linux with OpenGL
>>>> you can do the same for solaris.  Besides, Oracle managed to purge the
>>>> fat out of the os and now it boots up a lot faster than Linux and the
>>>> programs run faster.
>>>
>>> If that's the case, that's very good. I wonder what the usage of the OS
>>> is though.
>>>
>> Pretty poor, because Larry Ellison has made a few strategic errors in
>> the Sun Sparc product line up.  He's dumped the workstation concept and
>> now only sells servers, while ignoring a vast market potential for the
>> Desktop or mobile devices.  If he had, he'd be selling a lot more
>> servers and other products.  He also doesn't seem to get the desktop
>> metaphor correctly.  Not everyone wants a tablet or a smart phone to do
>> work on, and business offices want desktops.
>
> I enjoyed my Windows 8 tablet for about 4 days. After that, I just
> needed to be on a traditional laptop again. I mostly can't stand the
> reflective screen but I have to admit that touching sucks. I really
> really don't like it and it makes me feel like a beginner.
>
I know what you mean.  Back in the early 90's we had the HP touch screen 
terminals, and the people really didn't like it.  Their arms started to 
hurt after about 2 or 3 hours of touching and doing data entry, hence 
the term gorilla arms.  The terminals didn't last very long and then we 
went to the traditional terminals.


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#243366

FromSilver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c>
Date2014-05-13 10:08 -0400
Message-ID<lkt915$cvp$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#243312
On 14-05-12 10:50 PM, GreyCloud wrote:
> On 05/12/14 19:22, Silver Slimer wrote:
>> On 14-05-12 08:40 PM, GreyCloud wrote:
>>> On 5/12/2014 6:13 PM, Silver Slimer wrote:
>>>> On 14-05-12 05:19 PM, GreyCloud wrote:
>>>>> On 5/12/2014 12:48 PM, Silver Slimer wrote:
>>>>>> On 14-05-12 01:18 PM, JEDIDIAH wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2014-05-12, Silver Slimer<slvrslmr@strtml.cm>  wrote:
>>>>>>>> Some of it might explain why most new games use DirectX rather than
>>>>>>>> OpenGL which would have made it easy to port games to all three
>>>>>>>> platforms.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ...and the fact that the monopoly desktop vendor has their own
>>>>>>> standard
>>>>>>> that they like to push has nothing to do with it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [deletia]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     It's also more than 3 platforms. It's more like 7+.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Anything that's not Microsoft is going to require leaving
>>>>>>> Direct3D behind.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Game consoles...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     All of those phones, tablets, and streamers...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Linux or MacOS are just the tip of the iceberg.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There might be more platforms but it would be laughable to suggest
>>>>>> BSD
>>>>>> or something like Solaris ever becoming a gaming platform.
>>>>>>
>>>>> I wouldn't say that about solaris these days.  They've pretty much
>>>>> dumped CDE desktop and is now mostly gnome + java.  Their OpenGL for
>>>>> Intel is MESA anyway.  So if you can write a game for linux with
>>>>> OpenGL
>>>>> you can do the same for solaris.  Besides, Oracle managed to purge the
>>>>> fat out of the os and now it boots up a lot faster than Linux and the
>>>>> programs run faster.
>>>>
>>>> If that's the case, that's very good. I wonder what the usage of the OS
>>>> is though.
>>>>
>>> Pretty poor, because Larry Ellison has made a few strategic errors in
>>> the Sun Sparc product line up.  He's dumped the workstation concept and
>>> now only sells servers, while ignoring a vast market potential for the
>>> Desktop or mobile devices.  If he had, he'd be selling a lot more
>>> servers and other products.  He also doesn't seem to get the desktop
>>> metaphor correctly.  Not everyone wants a tablet or a smart phone to do
>>> work on, and business offices want desktops.
>>
>> I enjoyed my Windows 8 tablet for about 4 days. After that, I just
>> needed to be on a traditional laptop again. I mostly can't stand the
>> reflective screen but I have to admit that touching sucks. I really
>> really don't like it and it makes me feel like a beginner.
>>
> I know what you mean.  Back in the early 90's we had the HP touch screen
> terminals, and the people really didn't like it.  Their arms started to
> hurt after about 2 or 3 hours of touching and doing data entry, hence
> the term gorilla arms.  The terminals didn't last very long and then we
> went to the traditional terminals.

Laptops are just better. Despite buying the tablet, I'll use it lightly
if I go on vacation or something since its long battery life is always
appreciated. However, come my birthday, I'm finally upgrading this
laptop to the most recent i7 and not looking back. Tablets are seriously
a pretty lame fad and I think we'll all be happier when they're finally
gone.

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#243389

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2014-05-13 08:13 -0700
Message-ID<CF97849E.37282%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#243366
On 5/13/14, 7:08 AM, in article lkt915$cvp$1@dont-email.me, "Silver Slimer"
<ndr@slvrlps.c> wrote:

>>> I enjoyed my Windows 8 tablet for about 4 days. After that, I just
>>> needed to be on a traditional laptop again. I mostly can't stand the
>>> reflective screen but I have to admit that touching sucks. I really
>>> really don't like it and it makes me feel like a beginner.
>>> 
>> I know what you mean.  Back in the early 90's we had the HP touch screen
>> terminals, and the people really didn't like it.  Their arms started to
>> hurt after about 2 or 3 hours of touching and doing data entry, hence
>> the term gorilla arms.  The terminals didn't last very long and then we
>> went to the traditional terminals.
> 
> Laptops are just better. Despite buying the tablet, I'll use it lightly
> if I go on vacation or something since its long battery life is always
> appreciated. However, come my birthday, I'm finally upgrading this
> laptop to the most recent i7 and not looking back. Tablets are seriously
> a pretty lame fad and I think we'll all be happier when they're finally
> gone.

When do you think this "fad" will be over?


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#243427

FromGreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com>
Date2014-05-13 11:18 -0600
Message-ID<592dnYyFgaJDzu_OnZ2dnUVZ_t-dnZ2d@bresnan.com>
In reply to#243366
On 5/13/2014 8:08 AM, Silver Slimer wrote:
> On 14-05-12 10:50 PM, GreyCloud wrote:
>> On 05/12/14 19:22, Silver Slimer wrote:
>>> On 14-05-12 08:40 PM, GreyCloud wrote:
>>>> On 5/12/2014 6:13 PM, Silver Slimer wrote:
>>>>> On 14-05-12 05:19 PM, GreyCloud wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/12/2014 12:48 PM, Silver Slimer wrote:
>>>>>>> On 14-05-12 01:18 PM, JEDIDIAH wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2014-05-12, Silver Slimer<slvrslmr@strtml.cm>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Some of it might explain why most new games use DirectX rather than
>>>>>>>>> OpenGL which would have made it easy to port games to all three
>>>>>>>>> platforms.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ...and the fact that the monopoly desktop vendor has their own
>>>>>>>> standard
>>>>>>>> that they like to push has nothing to do with it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [deletia]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     It's also more than 3 platforms. It's more like 7+.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Anything that's not Microsoft is going to require leaving
>>>>>>>> Direct3D behind.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Game consoles...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     All of those phones, tablets, and streamers...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Linux or MacOS are just the tip of the iceberg.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There might be more platforms but it would be laughable to suggest
>>>>>>> BSD
>>>>>>> or something like Solaris ever becoming a gaming platform.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I wouldn't say that about solaris these days.  They've pretty much
>>>>>> dumped CDE desktop and is now mostly gnome + java.  Their OpenGL for
>>>>>> Intel is MESA anyway.  So if you can write a game for linux with
>>>>>> OpenGL
>>>>>> you can do the same for solaris.  Besides, Oracle managed to purge the
>>>>>> fat out of the os and now it boots up a lot faster than Linux and the
>>>>>> programs run faster.
>>>>>
>>>>> If that's the case, that's very good. I wonder what the usage of the OS
>>>>> is though.
>>>>>
>>>> Pretty poor, because Larry Ellison has made a few strategic errors in
>>>> the Sun Sparc product line up.  He's dumped the workstation concept and
>>>> now only sells servers, while ignoring a vast market potential for the
>>>> Desktop or mobile devices.  If he had, he'd be selling a lot more
>>>> servers and other products.  He also doesn't seem to get the desktop
>>>> metaphor correctly.  Not everyone wants a tablet or a smart phone to do
>>>> work on, and business offices want desktops.
>>>
>>> I enjoyed my Windows 8 tablet for about 4 days. After that, I just
>>> needed to be on a traditional laptop again. I mostly can't stand the
>>> reflective screen but I have to admit that touching sucks. I really
>>> really don't like it and it makes me feel like a beginner.
>>>
>> I know what you mean.  Back in the early 90's we had the HP touch screen
>> terminals, and the people really didn't like it.  Their arms started to
>> hurt after about 2 or 3 hours of touching and doing data entry, hence
>> the term gorilla arms.  The terminals didn't last very long and then we
>> went to the traditional terminals.
> 
> Laptops are just better. Despite buying the tablet, I'll use it lightly
> if I go on vacation or something since its long battery life is always
> appreciated. However, come my birthday, I'm finally upgrading this
> laptop to the most recent i7 and not looking back. Tablets are seriously
> a pretty lame fad and I think we'll all be happier when they're finally
> gone.
> 
That was my conclusions as well.  All I'm waiting for on the laptops now
is the retina type display.  They'll be cheaper once the production bugs
are worked out.


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#243438

FromSilver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c>
Date2014-05-13 13:52 -0400
Message-ID<lktm5h$jho$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#243427
On 14-05-13 01:18 PM, GreyCloud wrote:

>> Laptops are just better. Despite buying the tablet, I'll use it lightly
>> if I go on vacation or something since its long battery life is always
>> appreciated. However, come my birthday, I'm finally upgrading this
>> laptop to the most recent i7 and not looking back. Tablets are seriously
>> a pretty lame fad and I think we'll all be happier when they're finally
>> gone.
>>
> That was my conclusions as well.  All I'm waiting for on the laptops now
> is the retina type display.  They'll be cheaper once the production bugs
> are worked out.

I'll be happy once store-bought laptops no longer have a maximum of
1366x768 or 1600x900 as a resolution. Even yesterday, I couldn't find a
laptop which happened to have a 1080p resolution. I won't settle for
anything with less nowadays. However, more is pretty much overkill to
me. I doubt a retina display would do much to improve my experience.

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#243459

FromGreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com>
Date2014-05-13 12:55 -0600
Message-ID<UuqdnTTKYcU79-_OnZ2dnUVZ_oWdnZ2d@bresnan.com>
In reply to#243438
On 5/13/2014 11:52 AM, Silver Slimer wrote:
> On 14-05-13 01:18 PM, GreyCloud wrote:
> 
>>> Laptops are just better. Despite buying the tablet, I'll use it lightly
>>> if I go on vacation or something since its long battery life is always
>>> appreciated. However, come my birthday, I'm finally upgrading this
>>> laptop to the most recent i7 and not looking back. Tablets are seriously
>>> a pretty lame fad and I think we'll all be happier when they're finally
>>> gone.
>>>
>> That was my conclusions as well.  All I'm waiting for on the laptops now
>> is the retina type display.  They'll be cheaper once the production bugs
>> are worked out.
> 
> I'll be happy once store-bought laptops no longer have a maximum of
> 1366x768 or 1600x900 as a resolution. Even yesterday, I couldn't find a
> laptop which happened to have a 1080p resolution. I won't settle for
> anything with less nowadays. However, more is pretty much overkill to
> me. I doubt a retina display would do much to improve my experience.
> 

I looked at one that had a retina display... the text is very sharp.
For me it is a plus.  It also means that the text or some algorithm will
have to shape the text precisely.

HP has a laptop with 1920x1080.


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#243507

FromSilver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c>
Date2014-05-13 17:47 -0400
Message-ID<lku3tr$vs6$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#243459
On 14-05-13 02:55 PM, GreyCloud wrote:
> On 5/13/2014 11:52 AM, Silver Slimer wrote:
>> On 14-05-13 01:18 PM, GreyCloud wrote:
>>
>>>> Laptops are just better. Despite buying the tablet, I'll use it lightly
>>>> if I go on vacation or something since its long battery life is always
>>>> appreciated. However, come my birthday, I'm finally upgrading this
>>>> laptop to the most recent i7 and not looking back. Tablets are seriously
>>>> a pretty lame fad and I think we'll all be happier when they're finally
>>>> gone.
>>>>
>>> That was my conclusions as well.  All I'm waiting for on the laptops now
>>> is the retina type display.  They'll be cheaper once the production bugs
>>> are worked out.
>>
>> I'll be happy once store-bought laptops no longer have a maximum of
>> 1366x768 or 1600x900 as a resolution. Even yesterday, I couldn't find a
>> laptop which happened to have a 1080p resolution. I won't settle for
>> anything with less nowadays. However, more is pretty much overkill to
>> me. I doubt a retina display would do much to improve my experience.
>>
> 
> I looked at one that had a retina display... the text is very sharp.
> For me it is a plus.  It also means that the text or some algorithm will
> have to shape the text precisely.
> 
> HP has a laptop with 1920x1080.

Well, I've already determined that I'll be buying my next laptop from
System76 and their products all seem to have 1080p. I could get
something which has some sort of retina display (or a higher resolution
since I don't really like that name) but it looks like Apple is usually
the source of those products and I don't want to ever give them any more
money.

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