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| Started by | "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> |
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| First post | 2018-10-22 22:44 +0000 |
| Last post | 2018-10-24 21:25 -0400 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 201 — 13 participants |
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Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-10-22 22:44 +0000
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> - 2018-10-23 09:06 -0400
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-23 06:17 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-23 09:20 -0400
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-23 06:47 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-23 06:54 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-23 07:34 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-23 08:23 -0500
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> - 2018-10-23 10:07 -0400
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-23 10:57 -0400
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> - 2018-10-23 11:13 -0400
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-23 17:11 +0000
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> - 2018-10-23 13:28 -0400
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-23 19:13 +0000
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-23 12:37 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> - 2018-10-23 18:43 -0400
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-10-23 23:21 +0000
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> - 2018-10-24 10:13 -0400
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-24 07:16 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-23 20:02 -0400
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-23 17:53 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-23 18:18 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> - 2018-10-24 10:15 -0400
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-24 08:37 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> - 2018-10-23 18:41 -0400
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-10-23 23:20 +0000
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-23 20:03 -0400
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-23 18:12 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> - 2018-10-24 10:39 -0400
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-10-24 19:54 +0000
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> - 2018-10-24 17:34 -0400
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-10-24 22:23 +0000
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> - 2018-10-24 18:36 -0400
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-24 16:56 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-10-24 21:19 -0400
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-24 18:27 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-24 18:37 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-24 16:32 -0400
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-24 02:05 +0000
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-23 19:17 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-23 19:32 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-24 02:37 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-24 08:39 -0400
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-24 06:14 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> - 2018-10-24 10:45 -0400
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-24 15:26 +0000
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-24 08:49 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> - 2018-10-24 13:03 -0400
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-24 18:45 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-24 19:30 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-24 10:53 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> - 2018-10-24 13:02 -0400
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-24 18:08 +0000
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> - 2018-10-24 14:15 -0400
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-24 18:19 +0000
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> - 2018-10-24 14:23 -0400
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-24 18:50 +0000
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-24 16:41 -0400
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-24 14:00 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-24 21:01 +0000
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-24 14:31 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-24 06:58 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> - 2018-10-24 10:49 -0400
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-24 08:34 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-24 08:48 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-24 09:05 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-23 20:00 -0400
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-23 17:29 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-23 17:59 -0700
What is your profession, Owl ? Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-10-23 17:07 -0700
Re: What is your profession, Owl ? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-24 02:06 +0000
Are you Chris Caputo ? Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-10-23 22:53 -0700
Re: Are you Chris Caputo ? Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-23 23:13 -0700
Re: Are you Chris Caputo ? Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-24 03:09 -0700
Re: What is your profession, Owl ? DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-10-24 10:28 -0400
Re: What is your profession, Owl ? Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-24 07:47 -0700
What is your profession, Owl ? Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-10-24 07:53 -0700
Re: What is your profession, Owl ? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-24 15:06 +0000
Re: What is your profession, Owl ? Hadron Quark <hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2018-10-24 20:10 +0200
Re: What is your profession, Owl ? Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-24 11:40 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-23 19:44 -0400
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-23 18:03 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> - 2018-10-24 10:28 -0400
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-24 08:39 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-24 08:49 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Hadron Quark <hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2018-10-24 20:07 +0200
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-24 18:11 +0000
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Hadron Quark <hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2018-10-24 20:17 +0200
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-24 18:37 +0000
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Hadron Quark <hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2018-10-25 00:37 +0200
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-24 16:22 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-25 12:20 +0000
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> - 2018-10-24 14:18 -0400
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-24 16:41 -0400
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-24 16:58 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-25 07:13 -0500
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-24 18:38 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Hadron Quark <hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2018-10-25 03:43 +0200
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-24 18:58 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-24 18:58 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-24 18:39 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Hadron Quark <hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2018-10-25 03:48 +0200
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-24 18:56 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Hadron Quark <hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2018-10-25 04:14 +0200
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-24 19:29 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-24 19:46 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-24 12:25 -0400
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-24 09:38 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-24 10:07 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> - 2018-10-24 13:12 -0400
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-10-24 15:38 -0400
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-24 12:58 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> - 2018-10-24 17:30 -0400
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-24 15:19 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-10-24 21:56 -0400
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> - 2018-10-25 09:48 -0400
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-25 07:04 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-25 08:31 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-24 16:39 -0400
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-24 21:10 +0000
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-24 18:50 -0400
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-25 12:39 +0000
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-25 08:53 -0400
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-25 13:09 +0000
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-25 10:56 -0400
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-25 17:11 +0000
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-25 10:22 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-25 11:08 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-25 14:32 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-26 08:07 -0400
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-26 14:44 +0000
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-26 12:10 -0400
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-26 16:46 +0000
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-26 10:04 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-26 13:48 -0400
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-10-26 17:55 +0000
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-27 11:41 -0400
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-27 08:56 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-10-27 17:08 +0000
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-27 11:17 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-27 16:12 -0400
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-10-27 21:01 +0000
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-27 14:10 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-27 18:03 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-27 14:41 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-27 20:26 -0400
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-25 06:57 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-10-25 16:44 +0000
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-25 10:06 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-25 16:02 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-26 08:05 -0400
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-25 06:26 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-24 12:47 -0500
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-24 11:09 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-24 18:43 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-25 07:06 -0500
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-25 05:07 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> - 2018-10-24 10:25 -0400
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-24 07:32 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-24 12:22 -0400
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> - 2018-10-24 13:07 -0400
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-24 10:22 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-23 12:00 -0500
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-23 17:24 +0000
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-23 12:30 -0500
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-23 18:48 +0000
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-23 12:38 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-23 12:45 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-23 11:12 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-10-23 18:28 +0000
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-23 12:43 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-23 13:01 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-10-23 14:30 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-23 14:40 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-23 15:07 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-23 14:51 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-23 19:57 -0400
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-23 18:01 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-23 16:32 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-10-23 18:20 +0000
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-23 11:43 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> - 2018-10-23 18:44 -0400
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-10-23 23:23 +0000
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-23 16:57 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-23 18:03 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> - 2018-10-24 10:30 -0400
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> - 2018-10-24 10:30 -0400
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-23 12:19 -0500
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-23 10:26 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-10-25 11:02 -0400
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Hadron Quark <hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2018-10-28 03:37 +0100
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-27 20:41 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-29 07:50 -0500
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-29 23:43 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Hadron Quark <hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2018-10-28 03:34 +0100
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-27 19:38 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-28 04:00 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-29 07:49 -0500
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-29 07:22 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-29 22:56 -0700
Re: Attention "Hobbyware" Accusers DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-10-24 21:25 -0400
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| From | Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-10-23 19:32 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <2fd1ca7c-a02a-44d8-9370-62c47dfd8b17@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #473253 |
On Tuesday, October 23, 2018 at 7:05:35 PM UTC-7, owl wrote: > proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> wrote: > > On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 19:13:10 +0000 (UTC), owl wrote: > > > >> proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> wrote: > >>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 17:11:50 +0000 (UTC), owl wrote: > >>> > >>>> proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> wrote: > >>>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 10:57:17 -0400, SilverSlimer wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> On 2018-10-23 10:07 a.m., proletariat wrote: > >>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 08:23:18 -0500, chrisv wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> proletariat wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> It's a rather fitting > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> *plonk* > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> And another Stallman worshiper surfaces like a pile of shit in a toilet > >>>>>>> bowl floating to the surface. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> To be fair to chrisv, you're clearly a troll and he has no patient for > >>>>>> that. On the other hand, we can't expect any kind of objectivity from > >>>>>> the guy. His behaviour on the newsgroup, over the years, has made it > >>>>>> clear that he's an unapologetic leftist who intentionally closes his > >>>>>> eyes and ears to reality. > >>>>> > >>>>> Just about everyone in this group is a troll, including the OP for this > >>>>> thread. However, based upon my own experiences I truly believe Linux is > >>>>> crap. At least for the tasks I need to perform. Linux should give up trying > >>>>> to be Windows and concentrate on what it does best, supercomputers, > >>>>> embedded operating system for TV's, microwaves and such, Android and > >>>>> possibly servers. Windows and OSX run circles around Linux and no matter > >>>>> how much the bearded masses will claim Linux's superiority, the vast > >>>>> majority of people do not see it that way. > >>>>> > >>>>> The typical Linux experience goes something like this: > >>>>> > >>>>> 1. The break up with your current girlfriend. Her name is Windows. > >>>>> > >>>>> 2. The discovery of a new girlfriend who does everything you deamand of her > >>>>> and doesn't cost anything or spy on you. Her name is Linux. > >>>>> > >>>>> 3. The courtship and honeymoon phase with Linux. This is where Linux can do > >>>>> no wrong and you tell all your friends about how great Linux is compared to > >>>>> your old girlfriend Windows. > >>>>> > >>>>> 4. The 7 month itch. This is where you start to realize all the extra hoops > >>>>> and rings you need to jump through in order to date Linux. > >>>>> > >>>>> 5. The break up with Linux. You ultimately realize you have been fooling > >>>>> yourself into believing Linux is better than your last girlfriend Windows. > >>>>> > >>>>> 6. The return to Windows. This is where you return to your previous > >>>>> girlfriend Windows because you now realize how great she is and how you > >>>>> will never leave her again. > >>>>> > >>>>> It happens all the time when people give Linux a try. > >>>> > >>>> Back to a life of "Yes, Dear." That sounds great! Not. > >>> > >>> Beats a life of "fix this, fix that". That's life being married to Linux. > >> > >> Nope. That's Windows, which is always in need of a "fix" of some sort. > >> I never have to do the kind of annoying system maintenance with Linux > >> that the typical Windows user has to put up with on almost a daily basis. > >> Linux just runs and runs without hiccup and lets me do whatever the hell > >> I want with the system. > > > > I rarely have problems with Windows but I build my own systems and only use > > Windows Professional so I can utilize Group Policies if I wish. > > > > > Group Policy == boring, irrelevant MS SysAdmin crap that nobody but an > IT drone in a Windows-only shop even cares about. > > > > Judging from your posting history, you are a programmer who enjoys > > tinkering with the operating system so problems with Linux are viewed as > > challenges. > > > What are these "problems with Linux"? > > > > You probably use vi or emacs to write emails to grandma so your opinion is > > one of an outlier. > > > You and grandma chit-chat about Group Policy? > > > > Try showing your command line wizardry, a spreadsheet using sc and so forth > > to the population at large and they will probably consider you a relic from > > the stone age. > > They will laugh until I show it pwning Excel. > > > > Much like the newspaper reporter who still writes his articles on a Royal > > typewriter. I'm sure they can be found as well but it's not mainstream. > > So basically, you like Linux for the very reason most people dislike Linux. > > What's a "newspaper reporter," Gramps? Plasma is probably my second favorite DE and the only one I recommend to computer converts. Primary interface is Xfce, though. Being able to do what Klaus Schadenfreude does is all you require after all. Off Flooder Steve Carroll goes to the accommodations in the overflowing septic tank of my killfile. Now that Klaus Schadenfreude appreciated how effective Flooder Steve Carroll is at portraying himself as the 'fall guy' he realizes this isn't quite as crazy as it appeared. Klaus Schadenfreude just wiped his ass with Flooder Steve Carroll. -- Live on Kickstarter http://tinyurl.com/proof-about-ebot https://youtu.be/D_so1dvjeyI https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.os.linux.advocacy/tzMH39QmAmU Jonas Eklundh
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| From | Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-10-24 02:37 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <c6b3c2a7-5a44-4f3e-a776-c0bfc02d2eff@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #473257 |
On Tuesday, October 23, 2018 at 7:32:57 PM UTC-7, Steve Carroll wrote: > On Tuesday, October 23, 2018 at 7:05:35 PM UTC-7, owl wrote: > > proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> wrote: > > > On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 19:13:10 +0000 (UTC), owl wrote: > > > > > >> proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> wrote: > > >>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 17:11:50 +0000 (UTC), owl wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> wrote: > > >>>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 10:57:17 -0400, SilverSlimer wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> On 2018-10-23 10:07 a.m., proletariat wrote: > > >>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 08:23:18 -0500, chrisv wrote: > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> proletariat wrote: > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> It's a rather fitting > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> *plonk* > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> And another Stallman worshiper surfaces like a pile of shit in a toilet > > >>>>>>> bowl floating to the surface. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> To be fair to chrisv, you're clearly a troll and he has no patient for > > >>>>>> that. On the other hand, we can't expect any kind of objectivity from > > >>>>>> the guy. His behaviour on the newsgroup, over the years, has made it > > >>>>>> clear that he's an unapologetic leftist who intentionally closes his > > >>>>>> eyes and ears to reality. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Just about everyone in this group is a troll, including the OP for this > > >>>>> thread. However, based upon my own experiences I truly believe Linux is > > >>>>> crap. At least for the tasks I need to perform. Linux should give up trying > > >>>>> to be Windows and concentrate on what it does best, supercomputers, > > >>>>> embedded operating system for TV's, microwaves and such, Android and > > >>>>> possibly servers. Windows and OSX run circles around Linux and no matter > > >>>>> how much the bearded masses will claim Linux's superiority, the vast > > >>>>> majority of people do not see it that way. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> The typical Linux experience goes something like this: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> 1. The break up with your current girlfriend. Her name is Windows. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> 2. The discovery of a new girlfriend who does everything you deamand of her > > >>>>> and doesn't cost anything or spy on you. Her name is Linux. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> 3. The courtship and honeymoon phase with Linux. This is where Linux can do > > >>>>> no wrong and you tell all your friends about how great Linux is compared to > > >>>>> your old girlfriend Windows. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> 4. The 7 month itch. This is where you start to realize all the extra hoops > > >>>>> and rings you need to jump through in order to date Linux. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> 5. The break up with Linux. You ultimately realize you have been fooling > > >>>>> yourself into believing Linux is better than your last girlfriend Windows. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> 6. The return to Windows. This is where you return to your previous > > >>>>> girlfriend Windows because you now realize how great she is and how you > > >>>>> will never leave her again. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> It happens all the time when people give Linux a try. > > >>>> > > >>>> Back to a life of "Yes, Dear." That sounds great! Not. > > >>> > > >>> Beats a life of "fix this, fix that". That's life being married to Linux. > > >> > > >> Nope. That's Windows, which is always in need of a "fix" of some sort. > > >> I never have to do the kind of annoying system maintenance with Linux > > >> that the typical Windows user has to put up with on almost a daily basis. > > >> Linux just runs and runs without hiccup and lets me do whatever the hell > > >> I want with the system. > > > > > > I rarely have problems with Windows but I build my own systems and only use > > > Windows Professional so I can utilize Group Policies if I wish. > > > > > > > > > Group Policy == boring, irrelevant MS SysAdmin crap that nobody but an > > IT drone in a Windows-only shop even cares about. > > > > > > > Judging from your posting history, you are a programmer who enjoys > > > tinkering with the operating system so problems with Linux are viewed as > > > challenges. > > > > > > What are these "problems with Linux"? > > > > > > > You probably use vi or emacs to write emails to grandma so your opinion is > > > one of an outlier. > > > > > > You and grandma chit-chat about Group Policy? > > > > > > > Try showing your command line wizardry, a spreadsheet using sc and so forth > > > to the population at large and they will probably consider you a relic from > > > the stone age. > > > > They will laugh until I show it pwning Excel. > > > > > > > Much like the newspaper reporter who still writes his articles on a Royal > > > typewriter. I'm sure they can be found as well but it's not mainstream. > > > So basically, you like Linux for the very reason most people dislike Linux. > > > > What's a "newspaper reporter," Gramps? > > > > Plasma is probably my second favorite DE and the only one I recommend to computer converts. Primary interface is Xfce, though. Being able to do what Klaus Schadenfreude does is all you require after all. > > Off Flooder Steve Carroll goes to the accommodations in the overflowing septic tank of my killfile. Now that Klaus Schadenfreude appreciated how effective Flooder Steve Carroll is at portraying himself as the 'fall guy' he realizes this isn't quite as crazy as it appeared. Klaus Schadenfreude just wiped his ass with Flooder Steve Carroll. > > -- > Live on Kickstarter > http://tinyurl.com/proof-about-ebot > https://youtu.be/D_so1dvjeyI > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.os.linux.advocacy/tzMH39QmAmU > Jonas Eklundh Script Troller doesn't have any concept of what he is sobbing about. Who are you even speaking to? It's his problem but he does not care. Obviously he would rather attack than face reality. -- Curious how these posts are made? Email: fretwizzer@gmail.com
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| From | SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> |
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| Date | 2018-10-24 08:39 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <yKZzD.646894$ZJ2.16101@fx33.iad> |
| In reply to | #473253 |
On 2018-10-23 10:05 p.m., owl wrote: > proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> wrote: >> On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 19:13:10 +0000 (UTC), owl wrote: >> >>> proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> wrote: >>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 17:11:50 +0000 (UTC), owl wrote: >>>> >>>>> proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> wrote: >>>>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 10:57:17 -0400, SilverSlimer wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2018-10-23 10:07 a.m., proletariat wrote: >>>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 08:23:18 -0500, chrisv wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> proletariat wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It's a rather fitting >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *plonk* >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> And another Stallman worshiper surfaces like a pile of shit in a toilet >>>>>>>> bowl floating to the surface. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To be fair to chrisv, you're clearly a troll and he has no patient for >>>>>>> that. On the other hand, we can't expect any kind of objectivity from >>>>>>> the guy. His behaviour on the newsgroup, over the years, has made it >>>>>>> clear that he's an unapologetic leftist who intentionally closes his >>>>>>> eyes and ears to reality. >>>>>> >>>>>> Just about everyone in this group is a troll, including the OP for this >>>>>> thread. However, based upon my own experiences I truly believe Linux is >>>>>> crap. At least for the tasks I need to perform. Linux should give up trying >>>>>> to be Windows and concentrate on what it does best, supercomputers, >>>>>> embedded operating system for TV's, microwaves and such, Android and >>>>>> possibly servers. Windows and OSX run circles around Linux and no matter >>>>>> how much the bearded masses will claim Linux's superiority, the vast >>>>>> majority of people do not see it that way. >>>>>> >>>>>> The typical Linux experience goes something like this: >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. The break up with your current girlfriend. Her name is Windows. >>>>>> >>>>>> 2. The discovery of a new girlfriend who does everything you deamand of her >>>>>> and doesn't cost anything or spy on you. Her name is Linux. >>>>>> >>>>>> 3. The courtship and honeymoon phase with Linux. This is where Linux can do >>>>>> no wrong and you tell all your friends about how great Linux is compared to >>>>>> your old girlfriend Windows. >>>>>> >>>>>> 4. The 7 month itch. This is where you start to realize all the extra hoops >>>>>> and rings you need to jump through in order to date Linux. >>>>>> >>>>>> 5. The break up with Linux. You ultimately realize you have been fooling >>>>>> yourself into believing Linux is better than your last girlfriend Windows. >>>>>> >>>>>> 6. The return to Windows. This is where you return to your previous >>>>>> girlfriend Windows because you now realize how great she is and how you >>>>>> will never leave her again. >>>>>> >>>>>> It happens all the time when people give Linux a try. >>>>> >>>>> Back to a life of "Yes, Dear." That sounds great! Not. >>>> >>>> Beats a life of "fix this, fix that". That's life being married to Linux. >>> >>> Nope. That's Windows, which is always in need of a "fix" of some sort. >>> I never have to do the kind of annoying system maintenance with Linux >>> that the typical Windows user has to put up with on almost a daily basis. >>> Linux just runs and runs without hiccup and lets me do whatever the hell >>> I want with the system. >> >> I rarely have problems with Windows but I build my own systems and only use >> Windows Professional so I can utilize Group Policies if I wish. >> > > > Group Policy == boring, irrelevant MS SysAdmin crap that nobody but an > IT drone in a Windows-only shop even cares about. > > >> Judging from your posting history, you are a programmer who enjoys >> tinkering with the operating system so problems with Linux are viewed as >> challenges. > > > What are these "problems with Linux"? > > >> You probably use vi or emacs to write emails to grandma so your opinion is >> one of an outlier. > > > You and grandma chit-chat about Group Policy? > > >> Try showing your command line wizardry, a spreadsheet using sc and so forth >> to the population at large and they will probably consider you a relic from >> the stone age. > > They will laugh until I show it pwning Excel. > > >> Much like the newspaper reporter who still writes his articles on a Royal >> typewriter. I'm sure they can be found as well but it's not mainstream. >> So basically, you like Linux for the very reason most people dislike Linux. > > What's a "newspaper reporter," Gramps? I can imagine what his answer would be, but the problems I can cite with Linux are those related to ACPI (which developers will admit to and which were issues with Windows as well in the early 2000s) and third-party software. Only the former is actually a problem with Linux itself though. -- SilverSlimer
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| From | Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-10-24 06:14 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <48aeee84-b6d8-437f-a7bd-2ad775c8da99@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #473297 |
On Wednesday, October 24, 2018 at 5:40:01 AM UTC-7, SilverSlimer wrote: > On 2018-10-23 10:05 p.m., owl wrote: > > proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> wrote: > >> On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 19:13:10 +0000 (UTC), owl wrote: > >> > >>> proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> wrote: > >>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 17:11:50 +0000 (UTC), owl wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> wrote: > >>>>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 10:57:17 -0400, SilverSlimer wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> On 2018-10-23 10:07 a.m., proletariat wrote: > >>>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 08:23:18 -0500, chrisv wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> proletariat wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> It's a rather fitting > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> *plonk* > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> And another Stallman worshiper surfaces like a pile of shit in a toilet > >>>>>>>> bowl floating to the surface. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> To be fair to chrisv, you're clearly a troll and he has no patient for > >>>>>>> that. On the other hand, we can't expect any kind of objectivity from > >>>>>>> the guy. His behaviour on the newsgroup, over the years, has made it > >>>>>>> clear that he's an unapologetic leftist who intentionally closes his > >>>>>>> eyes and ears to reality. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Just about everyone in this group is a troll, including the OP for this > >>>>>> thread. However, based upon my own experiences I truly believe Linux is > >>>>>> crap. At least for the tasks I need to perform. Linux should give up trying > >>>>>> to be Windows and concentrate on what it does best, supercomputers, > >>>>>> embedded operating system for TV's, microwaves and such, Android and > >>>>>> possibly servers. Windows and OSX run circles around Linux and no matter > >>>>>> how much the bearded masses will claim Linux's superiority, the vast > >>>>>> majority of people do not see it that way. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> The typical Linux experience goes something like this: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 1. The break up with your current girlfriend. Her name is Windows. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 2. The discovery of a new girlfriend who does everything you deamand of her > >>>>>> and doesn't cost anything or spy on you. Her name is Linux. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 3. The courtship and honeymoon phase with Linux. This is where Linux can do > >>>>>> no wrong and you tell all your friends about how great Linux is compared to > >>>>>> your old girlfriend Windows. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 4. The 7 month itch. This is where you start to realize all the extra hoops > >>>>>> and rings you need to jump through in order to date Linux. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 5. The break up with Linux. You ultimately realize you have been fooling > >>>>>> yourself into believing Linux is better than your last girlfriend Windows. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 6. The return to Windows. This is where you return to your previous > >>>>>> girlfriend Windows because you now realize how great she is and how you > >>>>>> will never leave her again. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> It happens all the time when people give Linux a try. > >>>>> > >>>>> Back to a life of "Yes, Dear." That sounds great! Not. > >>>> > >>>> Beats a life of "fix this, fix that". That's life being married to Linux. > >>> > >>> Nope. That's Windows, which is always in need of a "fix" of some sort. > >>> I never have to do the kind of annoying system maintenance with Linux > >>> that the typical Windows user has to put up with on almost a daily basis. > >>> Linux just runs and runs without hiccup and lets me do whatever the hell > >>> I want with the system. > >> > >> I rarely have problems with Windows but I build my own systems and only use > >> Windows Professional so I can utilize Group Policies if I wish. > >> > > > > > > Group Policy == boring, irrelevant MS SysAdmin crap that nobody but an > > IT drone in a Windows-only shop even cares about. > > > > > >> Judging from your posting history, you are a programmer who enjoys > >> tinkering with the operating system so problems with Linux are viewed as > >> challenges. > > > > > > What are these "problems with Linux"? > > > > > >> You probably use vi or emacs to write emails to grandma so your opinion is > >> one of an outlier. > > > > > > You and grandma chit-chat about Group Policy? > > > > > >> Try showing your command line wizardry, a spreadsheet using sc and so forth > >> to the population at large and they will probably consider you a relic from > >> the stone age. > > > > They will laugh until I show it pwning Excel. > > > > > >> Much like the newspaper reporter who still writes his articles on a Royal > >> typewriter. I'm sure they can be found as well but it's not mainstream. > >> So basically, you like Linux for the very reason most people dislike Linux. > > > > What's a "newspaper reporter," Gramps? > > I can imagine what his answer would be, but the problems I can cite with > Linux are those related to ACPI (which developers will admit to and > which were issues with Windows as well in the early 2000s) and > third-party software. Only the former is actually a problem with Linux > itself though. > > > -- > SilverSlimer I am an absolute fanboi of Xfce, because that's where all the thrilling innovation is happening. Who are you even speaking to? If you have 'some-file.doc' open in a user space program such as Atom and you want to change its name to 'd.txt' via a GUI menu item, that might be useful. -- Top Six Ways Jonas Eklundh Communication Trolls! http://www.5z8.info/racist-raps_r6r3wf_best-russian-sites-for-bootleg-everything Jonas Eklundh
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| From | proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> |
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| Date | 2018-10-24 10:45 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <5rpvpvj43qvx.1x9cnlynbfdcu.dlg@40tude.net> |
| In reply to | #473297 |
On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 08:39:59 -0400, SilverSlimer wrote: > On 2018-10-23 10:05 p.m., owl wrote: >> proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> wrote: >>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 19:13:10 +0000 (UTC), owl wrote: >>> >>>> proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> wrote: >>>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 17:11:50 +0000 (UTC), owl wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> wrote: >>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 10:57:17 -0400, SilverSlimer wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 2018-10-23 10:07 a.m., proletariat wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 08:23:18 -0500, chrisv wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> proletariat wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> It's a rather fitting >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> *plonk* >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> And another Stallman worshiper surfaces like a pile of shit in a toilet >>>>>>>>> bowl floating to the surface. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To be fair to chrisv, you're clearly a troll and he has no patient for >>>>>>>> that. On the other hand, we can't expect any kind of objectivity from >>>>>>>> the guy. His behaviour on the newsgroup, over the years, has made it >>>>>>>> clear that he's an unapologetic leftist who intentionally closes his >>>>>>>> eyes and ears to reality. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Just about everyone in this group is a troll, including the OP for this >>>>>>> thread. However, based upon my own experiences I truly believe Linux is >>>>>>> crap. At least for the tasks I need to perform. Linux should give up trying >>>>>>> to be Windows and concentrate on what it does best, supercomputers, >>>>>>> embedded operating system for TV's, microwaves and such, Android and >>>>>>> possibly servers. Windows and OSX run circles around Linux and no matter >>>>>>> how much the bearded masses will claim Linux's superiority, the vast >>>>>>> majority of people do not see it that way. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The typical Linux experience goes something like this: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1. The break up with your current girlfriend. Her name is Windows. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2. The discovery of a new girlfriend who does everything you deamand of her >>>>>>> and doesn't cost anything or spy on you. Her name is Linux. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 3. The courtship and honeymoon phase with Linux. This is where Linux can do >>>>>>> no wrong and you tell all your friends about how great Linux is compared to >>>>>>> your old girlfriend Windows. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 4. The 7 month itch. This is where you start to realize all the extra hoops >>>>>>> and rings you need to jump through in order to date Linux. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 5. The break up with Linux. You ultimately realize you have been fooling >>>>>>> yourself into believing Linux is better than your last girlfriend Windows. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 6. The return to Windows. This is where you return to your previous >>>>>>> girlfriend Windows because you now realize how great she is and how you >>>>>>> will never leave her again. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It happens all the time when people give Linux a try. >>>>>> >>>>>> Back to a life of "Yes, Dear." That sounds great! Not. >>>>> >>>>> Beats a life of "fix this, fix that". That's life being married to Linux. >>>> >>>> Nope. That's Windows, which is always in need of a "fix" of some sort. >>>> I never have to do the kind of annoying system maintenance with Linux >>>> that the typical Windows user has to put up with on almost a daily basis. >>>> Linux just runs and runs without hiccup and lets me do whatever the hell >>>> I want with the system. >>> >>> I rarely have problems with Windows but I build my own systems and only use >>> Windows Professional so I can utilize Group Policies if I wish. >>> >> >> >> Group Policy == boring, irrelevant MS SysAdmin crap that nobody but an >> IT drone in a Windows-only shop even cares about. >> >> >>> Judging from your posting history, you are a programmer who enjoys >>> tinkering with the operating system so problems with Linux are viewed as >>> challenges. >> >> >> What are these "problems with Linux"? >> >> >>> You probably use vi or emacs to write emails to grandma so your opinion is >>> one of an outlier. >> >> >> You and grandma chit-chat about Group Policy? >> >> >>> Try showing your command line wizardry, a spreadsheet using sc and so forth >>> to the population at large and they will probably consider you a relic from >>> the stone age. >> >> They will laugh until I show it pwning Excel. >> >> >>> Much like the newspaper reporter who still writes his articles on a Royal >>> typewriter. I'm sure they can be found as well but it's not mainstream. >>> So basically, you like Linux for the very reason most people dislike Linux. >> >> What's a "newspaper reporter," Gramps? > > I can imagine what his answer would be, but the problems I can cite with > Linux are those related to ACPI (which developers will admit to and > which were issues with Windows as well in the early 2000s) and > third-party software. Only the former is actually a problem with Linux > itself though. I missed the original reply but, Group Policy Editor is a great tool. Linux has nothing like it. Oh, and I can use the CLI to perform most if not all of the same tasks, I choose not to because the chances of typing cryptic 40 character line and getting it correct with no errors is low. SC is a joke. I'm sure you can craft a scenario where it performs better than Excel just like cli vs gui proponents can do the same. Who cares? Other than you. And you will never convince a person to drop Excel and move to sc, which is why Excel is so popular and sc is not. As for what's a newspaper reporter, you proved my point. It's not mainstream. And people using typewriters are not either. Although, I'll bet there are more people using typewriters than using SC to manage spreadsheets.
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| From | owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-10-24 15:26 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <sz8b0808z0bz.e3h@rooftop.invalid> |
| In reply to | #473324 |
proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> wrote: > On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 08:39:59 -0400, SilverSlimer wrote: > >> On 2018-10-23 10:05 p.m., owl wrote: >>> proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> wrote: >>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 19:13:10 +0000 (UTC), owl wrote: >>>> >>>>> proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> wrote: >>>>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 17:11:50 +0000 (UTC), owl wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> wrote: >>>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 10:57:17 -0400, SilverSlimer wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 2018-10-23 10:07 a.m., proletariat wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 08:23:18 -0500, chrisv wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> proletariat wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> It's a rather fitting >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *plonk* >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> And another Stallman worshiper surfaces like a pile of shit in a toilet >>>>>>>>>> bowl floating to the surface. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To be fair to chrisv, you're clearly a troll and he has no patient for >>>>>>>>> that. On the other hand, we can't expect any kind of objectivity from >>>>>>>>> the guy. His behaviour on the newsgroup, over the years, has made it >>>>>>>>> clear that he's an unapologetic leftist who intentionally closes his >>>>>>>>> eyes and ears to reality. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Just about everyone in this group is a troll, including the OP for this >>>>>>>> thread. However, based upon my own experiences I truly believe Linux is >>>>>>>> crap. At least for the tasks I need to perform. Linux should give up trying >>>>>>>> to be Windows and concentrate on what it does best, supercomputers, >>>>>>>> embedded operating system for TV's, microwaves and such, Android and >>>>>>>> possibly servers. Windows and OSX run circles around Linux and no matter >>>>>>>> how much the bearded masses will claim Linux's superiority, the vast >>>>>>>> majority of people do not see it that way. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The typical Linux experience goes something like this: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 1. The break up with your current girlfriend. Her name is Windows. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2. The discovery of a new girlfriend who does everything you deamand of her >>>>>>>> and doesn't cost anything or spy on you. Her name is Linux. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 3. The courtship and honeymoon phase with Linux. This is where Linux can do >>>>>>>> no wrong and you tell all your friends about how great Linux is compared to >>>>>>>> your old girlfriend Windows. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 4. The 7 month itch. This is where you start to realize all the extra hoops >>>>>>>> and rings you need to jump through in order to date Linux. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 5. The break up with Linux. You ultimately realize you have been fooling >>>>>>>> yourself into believing Linux is better than your last girlfriend Windows. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 6. The return to Windows. This is where you return to your previous >>>>>>>> girlfriend Windows because you now realize how great she is and how you >>>>>>>> will never leave her again. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It happens all the time when people give Linux a try. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Back to a life of "Yes, Dear." That sounds great! Not. >>>>>> >>>>>> Beats a life of "fix this, fix that". That's life being married to Linux. >>>>> >>>>> Nope. That's Windows, which is always in need of a "fix" of some sort. >>>>> I never have to do the kind of annoying system maintenance with Linux >>>>> that the typical Windows user has to put up with on almost a daily basis. >>>>> Linux just runs and runs without hiccup and lets me do whatever the hell >>>>> I want with the system. >>>> >>>> I rarely have problems with Windows but I build my own systems and only use >>>> Windows Professional so I can utilize Group Policies if I wish. >>>> >>> >>> >>> Group Policy == boring, irrelevant MS SysAdmin crap that nobody but an >>> IT drone in a Windows-only shop even cares about. >>> >>> >>>> Judging from your posting history, you are a programmer who enjoys >>>> tinkering with the operating system so problems with Linux are viewed as >>>> challenges. >>> >>> >>> What are these "problems with Linux"? >>> >>> >>>> You probably use vi or emacs to write emails to grandma so your opinion is >>>> one of an outlier. >>> >>> >>> You and grandma chit-chat about Group Policy? >>> >>> >>>> Try showing your command line wizardry, a spreadsheet using sc and so forth >>>> to the population at large and they will probably consider you a relic from >>>> the stone age. >>> >>> They will laugh until I show it pwning Excel. >>> >>> >>>> Much like the newspaper reporter who still writes his articles on a Royal >>>> typewriter. I'm sure they can be found as well but it's not mainstream. >>>> So basically, you like Linux for the very reason most people dislike Linux. >>> >>> What's a "newspaper reporter," Gramps? >> >> I can imagine what his answer would be, but the problems I can cite with >> Linux are those related to ACPI (which developers will admit to and >> which were issues with Windows as well in the early 2000s) and >> third-party software. Only the former is actually a problem with Linux >> itself though. > > I missed the original reply but, Group Policy Editor is a great tool. Linux > has nothing like it. Oh, and I can use the CLI to perform most if not all > of the same tasks, I choose not to because the chances of typing cryptic 40 > character line and getting it correct with no errors is low. > > SC is a joke. > I'm sure you can craft a scenario where it performs better than Excel just > like cli vs gui proponents can do the same. It's not a matter of performance. It's a matter of capability. SC is open source, which means that it can be easily modified to do far more than it's original intentions: https://imgur.com/a/teQndDO It is also public domain, which means a company deciding to do so is not restricted by any licensing at all. Hmm... maybe I'll keep my version closed-source and sell it to companies needing something more powerful than Excel.
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2018-10-24 08:49 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <g3bik0F4h7nU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #473333 |
On 10/24/18 8:26 AM, owl wrote: ... >> SC is a joke. >> I'm sure you can craft a scenario where it performs better than Excel just >> like cli vs gui proponents can do the same. > > It's not a matter of performance. It's a matter of capability. SC is > open source, which means that it can be easily modified to do far more > than it's original intentions: > > https://imgur.com/a/teQndDO > > It is also public domain, which means a company deciding to do so is > not restricted by any licensing at all. Hmm... maybe I'll keep my version > closed-source and sell it to companies needing something more powerful > than Excel. You like the license. Cool. We are looking at the usability and features. To each their own. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> |
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| Date | 2018-10-24 13:03 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <1xd1pdqwf6a14.1nsk5hofpzqzt$.dlg@40tude.net> |
| In reply to | #473343 |
On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 08:49:20 -0700, Snit wrote: > On 10/24/18 8:26 AM, owl wrote: > ... >>> SC is a joke. >>> I'm sure you can craft a scenario where it performs better than Excel just >>> like cli vs gui proponents can do the same. >> >> It's not a matter of performance. It's a matter of capability. SC is >> open source, which means that it can be easily modified to do far more >> than it's original intentions: >> >> https://imgur.com/a/teQndDO >> >> It is also public domain, which means a company deciding to do so is >> not restricted by any licensing at all. Hmm... maybe I'll keep my version >> closed-source and sell it to companies needing something more powerful >> than Excel. > > You like the license. Cool. We are looking at the usability and > features. To each their own. ^^^^^^ This.
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2018-10-24 18:45 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <g3clieFb9v6U7@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #473354 |
On 10/24/18 10:03 AM, proletariat wrote: > On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 08:49:20 -0700, Snit wrote: > >> On 10/24/18 8:26 AM, owl wrote: >> ... >>>> SC is a joke. >>>> I'm sure you can craft a scenario where it performs better than Excel just >>>> like cli vs gui proponents can do the same. >>> >>> It's not a matter of performance. It's a matter of capability. SC is >>> open source, which means that it can be easily modified to do far more >>> than it's original intentions: >>> >>> https://imgur.com/a/teQndDO >>> >>> It is also public domain, which means a company deciding to do so is >>> not restricted by any licensing at all. Hmm... maybe I'll keep my version >>> closed-source and sell it to companies needing something more powerful >>> than Excel. >> >> You like the license. Cool. We are looking at the usability and >> features. To each their own. > > ^^^^^^ > This. > And I mean it with no snark or disrespect. Use what you like. Why can't we stop with the stupid competition and egos and just learn from each other? -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-10-24 19:30 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <e42ede76-d2a9-4c97-b0b6-170afd25f1f8@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #473469 |
On Wednesday, October 24, 2018 at 6:45:53 PM UTC-7, Snit wrote: > On 10/24/18 10:03 AM, proletariat wrote: > > On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 08:49:20 -0700, Snit wrote: > > > >> On 10/24/18 8:26 AM, owl wrote: > >> ... > >>>> SC is a joke. > >>>> I'm sure you can craft a scenario where it performs better than Excel just > >>>> like cli vs gui proponents can do the same. > >>> > >>> It's not a matter of performance. It's a matter of capability. SC is > >>> open source, which means that it can be easily modified to do far more > >>> than it's original intentions: > >>> > >>> https://imgur.com/a/teQndDO > >>> > >>> It is also public domain, which means a company deciding to do so is > >>> not restricted by any licensing at all. Hmm... maybe I'll keep my version > >>> closed-source and sell it to companies needing something more powerful > >>> than Excel. > >> > >> You like the license. Cool. We are looking at the usability and > >> features. To each their own. > > > > ^^^^^^ > > This. > > > > And I mean it with no snark or disrespect. Use what you like. Why can't > we stop with the stupid competition and egos and just learn from each other? > > -- > Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They > cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel > somehow superior by attacking the messenger. > > They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. > > <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308> In fact Klaus 'The Fool' Schadenfreude's lies became more vile. So of course I regret backing the trolls with their support for Klaus 'The Fool' Schadenfreude. While I am sure his shills appreciated it, I've not helped the situation at all. By getting an education from 'media talking heads' like that you get laws like 'culture wars'. Carried to its (im)moral slippery slope, the push that it's 'unjust' for a conservative human to not wish to identify as a child is pushed. I have worked for the retail business for nearly 15 years. I have done business with multibillion OEMs working with the pharmaceutical industry and the insurance industry. Never, with even a hint, were we told to not offer any _anything_. We sold Linux, SCO, System V, and so forth as well as Microsoft OSs on our hardware. You're clueless! It was Klaus 'The Fool' Schadenfreude who flooded Snit's site thousands of times and denied it. I bet he thinks his wife's life was hard. -- Live on Kickstarter! http://www.5z8.info/warez_w2t4ge_girlsgonewildpart1.wmv Jonas Eklundh Communication
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| From | Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-10-24 10:53 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <4f313652-65a9-439a-9203-cbf40435df66@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #473343 |
On Wednesday, October 24, 2018 at 8:49:25 AM UTC-7, Snit wrote: > On 10/24/18 8:26 AM, owl wrote: > ... > >> SC is a joke. > >> I'm sure you can craft a scenario where it performs better than Excel just > >> like cli vs gui proponents can do the same. > > > > It's not a matter of performance. It's a matter of capability. SC is > > open source, which means that it can be easily modified to do far more > > than it's original intentions: > > > > https://imgur.com/a/teQndDO > > > > It is also public domain, which means a company deciding to do so is > > not restricted by any licensing at all. Hmm... maybe I'll keep my version > > closed-source and sell it to companies needing something more powerful > > than Excel. > > You like the license. Cool. We are looking at the usability and > features. To each their own. > > > -- > Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They > cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel > somehow superior by attacking the messenger. > > They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. > > <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308> Pay for a consumer report on Sandman and you will see that he was in the clink earlier this year. Anyone know what for? The probes don't go into that degree of detail and court lists are private unless subpoenaed. Is this for real? Several of us reported him years ago. As expected, it did diddly-squat to thwart the fool. Both Faraday and Sandman had their malfunctions and their delusions. One presented it cool and didn't do anything too publicly that could not be proved mathematically. His dream is to see Steve Petruzzellis frightened off by the spraying of the groups outside. And hey, that could happen. Just absurd trolling. And I am giving attention to that trolling. THAT is what the "Sandman circus" is. Of course, the lone thing that matters to Sandman is thinking he is "professional", and if he can not have that he will do whatever it takes to shout Steve Petruzzellis down, which is idiotic as hell. I do not accept that. Mental incapacity is mental incapacity and there are unlimited fools who are fine with it. Some are even programmers. -- Live on Kickstarter https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AglvCo3dJ38&feature=youtu.be http://www.5z8.info/horse-slaughter_w8c4en_launchexe http://www.5z8.info/nic_cage_naked_y8b5qk_torrentEverything Jonas Eklundh Communication AB
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| From | proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> |
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| Date | 2018-10-24 13:02 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <eoj8vzoknnhb.13gy098ealeh3$.dlg@40tude.net> |
| In reply to | #473333 |
On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 15:26:43 +0000 (UTC), owl wrote: > proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> wrote: >> On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 08:39:59 -0400, SilverSlimer wrote: >> >>> On 2018-10-23 10:05 p.m., owl wrote: >>>> proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> wrote: >>>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 19:13:10 +0000 (UTC), owl wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> wrote: >>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 17:11:50 +0000 (UTC), owl wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 10:57:17 -0400, SilverSlimer wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 2018-10-23 10:07 a.m., proletariat wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 08:23:18 -0500, chrisv wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> proletariat wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> It's a rather fitting >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> *plonk* >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> And another Stallman worshiper surfaces like a pile of shit in a toilet >>>>>>>>>>> bowl floating to the surface. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> To be fair to chrisv, you're clearly a troll and he has no patient for >>>>>>>>>> that. On the other hand, we can't expect any kind of objectivity from >>>>>>>>>> the guy. His behaviour on the newsgroup, over the years, has made it >>>>>>>>>> clear that he's an unapologetic leftist who intentionally closes his >>>>>>>>>> eyes and ears to reality. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Just about everyone in this group is a troll, including the OP for this >>>>>>>>> thread. However, based upon my own experiences I truly believe Linux is >>>>>>>>> crap. At least for the tasks I need to perform. Linux should give up trying >>>>>>>>> to be Windows and concentrate on what it does best, supercomputers, >>>>>>>>> embedded operating system for TV's, microwaves and such, Android and >>>>>>>>> possibly servers. Windows and OSX run circles around Linux and no matter >>>>>>>>> how much the bearded masses will claim Linux's superiority, the vast >>>>>>>>> majority of people do not see it that way. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The typical Linux experience goes something like this: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 1. The break up with your current girlfriend. Her name is Windows. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2. The discovery of a new girlfriend who does everything you deamand of her >>>>>>>>> and doesn't cost anything or spy on you. Her name is Linux. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 3. The courtship and honeymoon phase with Linux. This is where Linux can do >>>>>>>>> no wrong and you tell all your friends about how great Linux is compared to >>>>>>>>> your old girlfriend Windows. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 4. The 7 month itch. This is where you start to realize all the extra hoops >>>>>>>>> and rings you need to jump through in order to date Linux. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 5. The break up with Linux. You ultimately realize you have been fooling >>>>>>>>> yourself into believing Linux is better than your last girlfriend Windows. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 6. The return to Windows. This is where you return to your previous >>>>>>>>> girlfriend Windows because you now realize how great she is and how you >>>>>>>>> will never leave her again. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It happens all the time when people give Linux a try. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Back to a life of "Yes, Dear." That sounds great! Not. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Beats a life of "fix this, fix that". That's life being married to Linux. >>>>>> >>>>>> Nope. That's Windows, which is always in need of a "fix" of some sort. >>>>>> I never have to do the kind of annoying system maintenance with Linux >>>>>> that the typical Windows user has to put up with on almost a daily basis. >>>>>> Linux just runs and runs without hiccup and lets me do whatever the hell >>>>>> I want with the system. >>>>> >>>>> I rarely have problems with Windows but I build my own systems and only use >>>>> Windows Professional so I can utilize Group Policies if I wish. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Group Policy == boring, irrelevant MS SysAdmin crap that nobody but an >>>> IT drone in a Windows-only shop even cares about. >>>> >>>> >>>>> Judging from your posting history, you are a programmer who enjoys >>>>> tinkering with the operating system so problems with Linux are viewed as >>>>> challenges. >>>> >>>> >>>> What are these "problems with Linux"? >>>> >>>> >>>>> You probably use vi or emacs to write emails to grandma so your opinion is >>>>> one of an outlier. >>>> >>>> >>>> You and grandma chit-chat about Group Policy? >>>> >>>> >>>>> Try showing your command line wizardry, a spreadsheet using sc and so forth >>>>> to the population at large and they will probably consider you a relic from >>>>> the stone age. >>>> >>>> They will laugh until I show it pwning Excel. >>>> >>>> >>>>> Much like the newspaper reporter who still writes his articles on a Royal >>>>> typewriter. I'm sure they can be found as well but it's not mainstream. >>>>> So basically, you like Linux for the very reason most people dislike Linux. >>>> >>>> What's a "newspaper reporter," Gramps? >>> >>> I can imagine what his answer would be, but the problems I can cite with >>> Linux are those related to ACPI (which developers will admit to and >>> which were issues with Windows as well in the early 2000s) and >>> third-party software. Only the former is actually a problem with Linux >>> itself though. >> >> I missed the original reply but, Group Policy Editor is a great tool. Linux >> has nothing like it. Oh, and I can use the CLI to perform most if not all >> of the same tasks, I choose not to because the chances of typing cryptic 40 >> character line and getting it correct with no errors is low. >> >> SC is a joke. >> I'm sure you can craft a scenario where it performs better than Excel just >> like cli vs gui proponents can do the same. > > It's not a matter of performance. It's a matter of capability. SC is > open source, which means that it can be easily modified to do far more > than it's original intentions: > > https://imgur.com/a/teQndDO > > It is also public domain, which means a company deciding to do so is > not restricted by any licensing at all. Hmm... maybe I'll keep my version > closed-source and sell it to companies needing something more powerful > than Excel. That and $10.00 will get you a one day CTA (Chicago Transit Authority). Virtually nobody really cares about source code and open source for spreadsheet programs. They care about manipulating and presenting data and Excel is king. Go ask a finance student.
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| From | owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-10-24 18:08 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <9b0z793a.gpy3@rooftop.invalid> |
| In reply to | #473353 |
proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> wrote: > On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 15:26:43 +0000 (UTC), owl wrote: > >> proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> wrote: >>> On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 08:39:59 -0400, SilverSlimer wrote: >>> >>>> On 2018-10-23 10:05 p.m., owl wrote: >>>>> proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> wrote: >>>>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 19:13:10 +0000 (UTC), owl wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> wrote: >>>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 17:11:50 +0000 (UTC), owl wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 10:57:17 -0400, SilverSlimer wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 2018-10-23 10:07 a.m., proletariat wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 08:23:18 -0500, chrisv wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> proletariat wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's a rather fitting >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> *plonk* >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> And another Stallman worshiper surfaces like a pile of shit in a toilet >>>>>>>>>>>> bowl floating to the surface. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> To be fair to chrisv, you're clearly a troll and he has no patient for >>>>>>>>>>> that. On the other hand, we can't expect any kind of objectivity from >>>>>>>>>>> the guy. His behaviour on the newsgroup, over the years, has made it >>>>>>>>>>> clear that he's an unapologetic leftist who intentionally closes his >>>>>>>>>>> eyes and ears to reality. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Just about everyone in this group is a troll, including the OP for this >>>>>>>>>> thread. However, based upon my own experiences I truly believe Linux is >>>>>>>>>> crap. At least for the tasks I need to perform. Linux should give up trying >>>>>>>>>> to be Windows and concentrate on what it does best, supercomputers, >>>>>>>>>> embedded operating system for TV's, microwaves and such, Android and >>>>>>>>>> possibly servers. Windows and OSX run circles around Linux and no matter >>>>>>>>>> how much the bearded masses will claim Linux's superiority, the vast >>>>>>>>>> majority of people do not see it that way. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The typical Linux experience goes something like this: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 1. The break up with your current girlfriend. Her name is Windows. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 2. The discovery of a new girlfriend who does everything you deamand of her >>>>>>>>>> and doesn't cost anything or spy on you. Her name is Linux. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 3. The courtship and honeymoon phase with Linux. This is where Linux can do >>>>>>>>>> no wrong and you tell all your friends about how great Linux is compared to >>>>>>>>>> your old girlfriend Windows. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 4. The 7 month itch. This is where you start to realize all the extra hoops >>>>>>>>>> and rings you need to jump through in order to date Linux. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 5. The break up with Linux. You ultimately realize you have been fooling >>>>>>>>>> yourself into believing Linux is better than your last girlfriend Windows. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 6. The return to Windows. This is where you return to your previous >>>>>>>>>> girlfriend Windows because you now realize how great she is and how you >>>>>>>>>> will never leave her again. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It happens all the time when people give Linux a try. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Back to a life of "Yes, Dear." That sounds great! Not. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Beats a life of "fix this, fix that". That's life being married to Linux. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Nope. That's Windows, which is always in need of a "fix" of some sort. >>>>>>> I never have to do the kind of annoying system maintenance with Linux >>>>>>> that the typical Windows user has to put up with on almost a daily basis. >>>>>>> Linux just runs and runs without hiccup and lets me do whatever the hell >>>>>>> I want with the system. >>>>>> >>>>>> I rarely have problems with Windows but I build my own systems and only use >>>>>> Windows Professional so I can utilize Group Policies if I wish. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Group Policy == boring, irrelevant MS SysAdmin crap that nobody but an >>>>> IT drone in a Windows-only shop even cares about. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Judging from your posting history, you are a programmer who enjoys >>>>>> tinkering with the operating system so problems with Linux are viewed as >>>>>> challenges. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> What are these "problems with Linux"? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> You probably use vi or emacs to write emails to grandma so your opinion is >>>>>> one of an outlier. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> You and grandma chit-chat about Group Policy? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Try showing your command line wizardry, a spreadsheet using sc and so forth >>>>>> to the population at large and they will probably consider you a relic from >>>>>> the stone age. >>>>> >>>>> They will laugh until I show it pwning Excel. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Much like the newspaper reporter who still writes his articles on a Royal >>>>>> typewriter. I'm sure they can be found as well but it's not mainstream. >>>>>> So basically, you like Linux for the very reason most people dislike Linux. >>>>> >>>>> What's a "newspaper reporter," Gramps? >>>> >>>> I can imagine what his answer would be, but the problems I can cite with >>>> Linux are those related to ACPI (which developers will admit to and >>>> which were issues with Windows as well in the early 2000s) and >>>> third-party software. Only the former is actually a problem with Linux >>>> itself though. >>> >>> I missed the original reply but, Group Policy Editor is a great tool. Linux >>> has nothing like it. Oh, and I can use the CLI to perform most if not all >>> of the same tasks, I choose not to because the chances of typing cryptic 40 >>> character line and getting it correct with no errors is low. >>> >>> SC is a joke. >>> I'm sure you can craft a scenario where it performs better than Excel just >>> like cli vs gui proponents can do the same. >> >> It's not a matter of performance. It's a matter of capability. SC is >> open source, which means that it can be easily modified to do far more >> than it's original intentions: >> >> https://imgur.com/a/teQndDO >> >> It is also public domain, which means a company deciding to do so is >> not restricted by any licensing at all. Hmm... maybe I'll keep my version >> closed-source and sell it to companies needing something more powerful >> than Excel. > > That and $10.00 will get you a one day CTA (Chicago Transit Authority). > Virtually nobody really cares about source code and open source for > spreadsheet programs. They care about manipulating and presenting data and > Excel is king. Excel == pwned. https://imgur.com/a/teQndDO > Go ask a finance student. Ask a Harvard senior when the Revolutionary War took place. Students are morons.
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| From | proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> |
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| Date | 2018-10-24 14:15 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <12tuszg88y35r.3q8g6j30vd6q.dlg@40tude.net> |
| In reply to | #473366 |
On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 18:08:07 +0000 (UTC), owl wrote: > proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> wrote: >> On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 15:26:43 +0000 (UTC), owl wrote: >> >>> proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> wrote: >>>> On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 08:39:59 -0400, SilverSlimer wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 2018-10-23 10:05 p.m., owl wrote: >>>>>> proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> wrote: >>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 19:13:10 +0000 (UTC), owl wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 17:11:50 +0000 (UTC), owl wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 10:57:17 -0400, SilverSlimer wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 2018-10-23 10:07 a.m., proletariat wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 08:23:18 -0500, chrisv wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> proletariat wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's a rather fitting >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *plonk* >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> And another Stallman worshiper surfaces like a pile of shit in a toilet >>>>>>>>>>>>> bowl floating to the surface. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> To be fair to chrisv, you're clearly a troll and he has no patient for >>>>>>>>>>>> that. On the other hand, we can't expect any kind of objectivity from >>>>>>>>>>>> the guy. His behaviour on the newsgroup, over the years, has made it >>>>>>>>>>>> clear that he's an unapologetic leftist who intentionally closes his >>>>>>>>>>>> eyes and ears to reality. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Just about everyone in this group is a troll, including the OP for this >>>>>>>>>>> thread. However, based upon my own experiences I truly believe Linux is >>>>>>>>>>> crap. At least for the tasks I need to perform. Linux should give up trying >>>>>>>>>>> to be Windows and concentrate on what it does best, supercomputers, >>>>>>>>>>> embedded operating system for TV's, microwaves and such, Android and >>>>>>>>>>> possibly servers. Windows and OSX run circles around Linux and no matter >>>>>>>>>>> how much the bearded masses will claim Linux's superiority, the vast >>>>>>>>>>> majority of people do not see it that way. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The typical Linux experience goes something like this: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 1. The break up with your current girlfriend. Her name is Windows. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 2. The discovery of a new girlfriend who does everything you deamand of her >>>>>>>>>>> and doesn't cost anything or spy on you. Her name is Linux. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 3. The courtship and honeymoon phase with Linux. This is where Linux can do >>>>>>>>>>> no wrong and you tell all your friends about how great Linux is compared to >>>>>>>>>>> your old girlfriend Windows. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 4. The 7 month itch. This is where you start to realize all the extra hoops >>>>>>>>>>> and rings you need to jump through in order to date Linux. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 5. The break up with Linux. You ultimately realize you have been fooling >>>>>>>>>>> yourself into believing Linux is better than your last girlfriend Windows. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 6. The return to Windows. This is where you return to your previous >>>>>>>>>>> girlfriend Windows because you now realize how great she is and how you >>>>>>>>>>> will never leave her again. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> It happens all the time when people give Linux a try. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Back to a life of "Yes, Dear." That sounds great! Not. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Beats a life of "fix this, fix that". That's life being married to Linux. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Nope. That's Windows, which is always in need of a "fix" of some sort. >>>>>>>> I never have to do the kind of annoying system maintenance with Linux >>>>>>>> that the typical Windows user has to put up with on almost a daily basis. >>>>>>>> Linux just runs and runs without hiccup and lets me do whatever the hell >>>>>>>> I want with the system. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I rarely have problems with Windows but I build my own systems and only use >>>>>>> Windows Professional so I can utilize Group Policies if I wish. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Group Policy == boring, irrelevant MS SysAdmin crap that nobody but an >>>>>> IT drone in a Windows-only shop even cares about. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Judging from your posting history, you are a programmer who enjoys >>>>>>> tinkering with the operating system so problems with Linux are viewed as >>>>>>> challenges. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> What are these "problems with Linux"? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> You probably use vi or emacs to write emails to grandma so your opinion is >>>>>>> one of an outlier. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> You and grandma chit-chat about Group Policy? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Try showing your command line wizardry, a spreadsheet using sc and so forth >>>>>>> to the population at large and they will probably consider you a relic from >>>>>>> the stone age. >>>>>> >>>>>> They will laugh until I show it pwning Excel. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Much like the newspaper reporter who still writes his articles on a Royal >>>>>>> typewriter. I'm sure they can be found as well but it's not mainstream. >>>>>>> So basically, you like Linux for the very reason most people dislike Linux. >>>>>> >>>>>> What's a "newspaper reporter," Gramps? >>>>> >>>>> I can imagine what his answer would be, but the problems I can cite with >>>>> Linux are those related to ACPI (which developers will admit to and >>>>> which were issues with Windows as well in the early 2000s) and >>>>> third-party software. Only the former is actually a problem with Linux >>>>> itself though. >>>> >>>> I missed the original reply but, Group Policy Editor is a great tool. Linux >>>> has nothing like it. Oh, and I can use the CLI to perform most if not all >>>> of the same tasks, I choose not to because the chances of typing cryptic 40 >>>> character line and getting it correct with no errors is low. >>>> >>>> SC is a joke. >>>> I'm sure you can craft a scenario where it performs better than Excel just >>>> like cli vs gui proponents can do the same. >>> >>> It's not a matter of performance. It's a matter of capability. SC is >>> open source, which means that it can be easily modified to do far more >>> than it's original intentions: >>> >>> https://imgur.com/a/teQndDO >>> >>> It is also public domain, which means a company deciding to do so is >>> not restricted by any licensing at all. Hmm... maybe I'll keep my version >>> closed-source and sell it to companies needing something more powerful >>> than Excel. >> >> That and $10.00 will get you a one day CTA (Chicago Transit Authority). >> Virtually nobody really cares about source code and open source for >> spreadsheet programs. They care about manipulating and presenting data and >> Excel is king. > > Excel == pwned. > https://imgur.com/a/teQndDO Not even close. You'll have a tough sell on that one. >> Go ask a finance student. > > Ask a Harvard senior when the Revolutionary War took place. > Students are morons. Touche' I can't argue with that.
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| From | owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-10-24 18:19 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <8z979zbz.by3@rooftop.invalid> |
| In reply to | #473374 |
proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> wrote: > On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 18:08:07 +0000 (UTC), owl wrote: > >> proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> wrote: >>> On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 15:26:43 +0000 (UTC), owl wrote: >>> >>>> proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> wrote: >>>>> On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 08:39:59 -0400, SilverSlimer wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 2018-10-23 10:05 p.m., owl wrote: >>>>>>> proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> wrote: >>>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 19:13:10 +0000 (UTC), owl wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 17:11:50 +0000 (UTC), owl wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 10:57:17 -0400, SilverSlimer wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2018-10-23 10:07 a.m., proletariat wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 08:23:18 -0500, chrisv wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> proletariat wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's a rather fitting >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *plonk* >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> And another Stallman worshiper surfaces like a pile of shit in a toilet >>>>>>>>>>>>>> bowl floating to the surface. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> To be fair to chrisv, you're clearly a troll and he has no patient for >>>>>>>>>>>>> that. On the other hand, we can't expect any kind of objectivity from >>>>>>>>>>>>> the guy. His behaviour on the newsgroup, over the years, has made it >>>>>>>>>>>>> clear that he's an unapologetic leftist who intentionally closes his >>>>>>>>>>>>> eyes and ears to reality. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Just about everyone in this group is a troll, including the OP for this >>>>>>>>>>>> thread. However, based upon my own experiences I truly believe Linux is >>>>>>>>>>>> crap. At least for the tasks I need to perform. Linux should give up trying >>>>>>>>>>>> to be Windows and concentrate on what it does best, supercomputers, >>>>>>>>>>>> embedded operating system for TV's, microwaves and such, Android and >>>>>>>>>>>> possibly servers. Windows and OSX run circles around Linux and no matter >>>>>>>>>>>> how much the bearded masses will claim Linux's superiority, the vast >>>>>>>>>>>> majority of people do not see it that way. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The typical Linux experience goes something like this: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 1. The break up with your current girlfriend. Her name is Windows. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 2. The discovery of a new girlfriend who does everything you deamand of her >>>>>>>>>>>> and doesn't cost anything or spy on you. Her name is Linux. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 3. The courtship and honeymoon phase with Linux. This is where Linux can do >>>>>>>>>>>> no wrong and you tell all your friends about how great Linux is compared to >>>>>>>>>>>> your old girlfriend Windows. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 4. The 7 month itch. This is where you start to realize all the extra hoops >>>>>>>>>>>> and rings you need to jump through in order to date Linux. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 5. The break up with Linux. You ultimately realize you have been fooling >>>>>>>>>>>> yourself into believing Linux is better than your last girlfriend Windows. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 6. The return to Windows. This is where you return to your previous >>>>>>>>>>>> girlfriend Windows because you now realize how great she is and how you >>>>>>>>>>>> will never leave her again. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> It happens all the time when people give Linux a try. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Back to a life of "Yes, Dear." That sounds great! Not. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Beats a life of "fix this, fix that". That's life being married to Linux. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Nope. That's Windows, which is always in need of a "fix" of some sort. >>>>>>>>> I never have to do the kind of annoying system maintenance with Linux >>>>>>>>> that the typical Windows user has to put up with on almost a daily basis. >>>>>>>>> Linux just runs and runs without hiccup and lets me do whatever the hell >>>>>>>>> I want with the system. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I rarely have problems with Windows but I build my own systems and only use >>>>>>>> Windows Professional so I can utilize Group Policies if I wish. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Group Policy == boring, irrelevant MS SysAdmin crap that nobody but an >>>>>>> IT drone in a Windows-only shop even cares about. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Judging from your posting history, you are a programmer who enjoys >>>>>>>> tinkering with the operating system so problems with Linux are viewed as >>>>>>>> challenges. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What are these "problems with Linux"? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You probably use vi or emacs to write emails to grandma so your opinion is >>>>>>>> one of an outlier. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You and grandma chit-chat about Group Policy? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Try showing your command line wizardry, a spreadsheet using sc and so forth >>>>>>>> to the population at large and they will probably consider you a relic from >>>>>>>> the stone age. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> They will laugh until I show it pwning Excel. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Much like the newspaper reporter who still writes his articles on a Royal >>>>>>>> typewriter. I'm sure they can be found as well but it's not mainstream. >>>>>>>> So basically, you like Linux for the very reason most people dislike Linux. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What's a "newspaper reporter," Gramps? >>>>>> >>>>>> I can imagine what his answer would be, but the problems I can cite with >>>>>> Linux are those related to ACPI (which developers will admit to and >>>>>> which were issues with Windows as well in the early 2000s) and >>>>>> third-party software. Only the former is actually a problem with Linux >>>>>> itself though. >>>>> >>>>> I missed the original reply but, Group Policy Editor is a great tool. Linux >>>>> has nothing like it. Oh, and I can use the CLI to perform most if not all >>>>> of the same tasks, I choose not to because the chances of typing cryptic 40 >>>>> character line and getting it correct with no errors is low. >>>>> >>>>> SC is a joke. >>>>> I'm sure you can craft a scenario where it performs better than Excel just >>>>> like cli vs gui proponents can do the same. >>>> >>>> It's not a matter of performance. It's a matter of capability. SC is >>>> open source, which means that it can be easily modified to do far more >>>> than it's original intentions: >>>> >>>> https://imgur.com/a/teQndDO >>>> >>>> It is also public domain, which means a company deciding to do so is >>>> not restricted by any licensing at all. Hmm... maybe I'll keep my version >>>> closed-source and sell it to companies needing something more powerful >>>> than Excel. >>> >>> That and $10.00 will get you a one day CTA (Chicago Transit Authority). >>> Virtually nobody really cares about source code and open source for >>> spreadsheet programs. They care about manipulating and presenting data and >>> Excel is king. >> >> Excel == pwned. >> https://imgur.com/a/teQndDO > > Not even close. > You'll have a tough sell on that one. > If they need that many cells, or builtin arbitrary precision math, it's an easy sell.
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| From | proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> |
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| Date | 2018-10-24 14:23 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <ax9uc4h4hv0.6w4dne8iiyu2$.dlg@40tude.net> |
| In reply to | #473378 |
On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 18:19:04 +0000 (UTC), owl wrote: > proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> wrote: >> On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 18:08:07 +0000 (UTC), owl wrote: >> >>> proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> wrote: >>>> On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 15:26:43 +0000 (UTC), owl wrote: >>>> >>>>> proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> wrote: >>>>>> On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 08:39:59 -0400, SilverSlimer wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2018-10-23 10:05 p.m., owl wrote: >>>>>>>> proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 19:13:10 +0000 (UTC), owl wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 17:11:50 +0000 (UTC), owl wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 10:57:17 -0400, SilverSlimer wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2018-10-23 10:07 a.m., proletariat wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 08:23:18 -0500, chrisv wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> proletariat wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's a rather fitting >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *plonk* >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And another Stallman worshiper surfaces like a pile of shit in a toilet >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bowl floating to the surface. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To be fair to chrisv, you're clearly a troll and he has no patient for >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that. On the other hand, we can't expect any kind of objectivity from >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the guy. His behaviour on the newsgroup, over the years, has made it >>>>>>>>>>>>>> clear that he's an unapologetic leftist who intentionally closes his >>>>>>>>>>>>>> eyes and ears to reality. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Just about everyone in this group is a troll, including the OP for this >>>>>>>>>>>>> thread. However, based upon my own experiences I truly believe Linux is >>>>>>>>>>>>> crap. At least for the tasks I need to perform. Linux should give up trying >>>>>>>>>>>>> to be Windows and concentrate on what it does best, supercomputers, >>>>>>>>>>>>> embedded operating system for TV's, microwaves and such, Android and >>>>>>>>>>>>> possibly servers. Windows and OSX run circles around Linux and no matter >>>>>>>>>>>>> how much the bearded masses will claim Linux's superiority, the vast >>>>>>>>>>>>> majority of people do not see it that way. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The typical Linux experience goes something like this: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. The break up with your current girlfriend. Her name is Windows. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. The discovery of a new girlfriend who does everything you deamand of her >>>>>>>>>>>>> and doesn't cost anything or spy on you. Her name is Linux. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. The courtship and honeymoon phase with Linux. This is where Linux can do >>>>>>>>>>>>> no wrong and you tell all your friends about how great Linux is compared to >>>>>>>>>>>>> your old girlfriend Windows. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. The 7 month itch. This is where you start to realize all the extra hoops >>>>>>>>>>>>> and rings you need to jump through in order to date Linux. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 5. The break up with Linux. You ultimately realize you have been fooling >>>>>>>>>>>>> yourself into believing Linux is better than your last girlfriend Windows. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 6. The return to Windows. This is where you return to your previous >>>>>>>>>>>>> girlfriend Windows because you now realize how great she is and how you >>>>>>>>>>>>> will never leave her again. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> It happens all the time when people give Linux a try. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Back to a life of "Yes, Dear." That sounds great! Not. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Beats a life of "fix this, fix that". That's life being married to Linux. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Nope. That's Windows, which is always in need of a "fix" of some sort. >>>>>>>>>> I never have to do the kind of annoying system maintenance with Linux >>>>>>>>>> that the typical Windows user has to put up with on almost a daily basis. >>>>>>>>>> Linux just runs and runs without hiccup and lets me do whatever the hell >>>>>>>>>> I want with the system. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I rarely have problems with Windows but I build my own systems and only use >>>>>>>>> Windows Professional so I can utilize Group Policies if I wish. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Group Policy == boring, irrelevant MS SysAdmin crap that nobody but an >>>>>>>> IT drone in a Windows-only shop even cares about. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Judging from your posting history, you are a programmer who enjoys >>>>>>>>> tinkering with the operating system so problems with Linux are viewed as >>>>>>>>> challenges. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What are these "problems with Linux"? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You probably use vi or emacs to write emails to grandma so your opinion is >>>>>>>>> one of an outlier. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You and grandma chit-chat about Group Policy? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Try showing your command line wizardry, a spreadsheet using sc and so forth >>>>>>>>> to the population at large and they will probably consider you a relic from >>>>>>>>> the stone age. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> They will laugh until I show it pwning Excel. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Much like the newspaper reporter who still writes his articles on a Royal >>>>>>>>> typewriter. I'm sure they can be found as well but it's not mainstream. >>>>>>>>> So basically, you like Linux for the very reason most people dislike Linux. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What's a "newspaper reporter," Gramps? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I can imagine what his answer would be, but the problems I can cite with >>>>>>> Linux are those related to ACPI (which developers will admit to and >>>>>>> which were issues with Windows as well in the early 2000s) and >>>>>>> third-party software. Only the former is actually a problem with Linux >>>>>>> itself though. >>>>>> >>>>>> I missed the original reply but, Group Policy Editor is a great tool. Linux >>>>>> has nothing like it. Oh, and I can use the CLI to perform most if not all >>>>>> of the same tasks, I choose not to because the chances of typing cryptic 40 >>>>>> character line and getting it correct with no errors is low. >>>>>> >>>>>> SC is a joke. >>>>>> I'm sure you can craft a scenario where it performs better than Excel just >>>>>> like cli vs gui proponents can do the same. >>>>> >>>>> It's not a matter of performance. It's a matter of capability. SC is >>>>> open source, which means that it can be easily modified to do far more >>>>> than it's original intentions: >>>>> >>>>> https://imgur.com/a/teQndDO >>>>> >>>>> It is also public domain, which means a company deciding to do so is >>>>> not restricted by any licensing at all. Hmm... maybe I'll keep my version >>>>> closed-source and sell it to companies needing something more powerful >>>>> than Excel. >>>> >>>> That and $10.00 will get you a one day CTA (Chicago Transit Authority). >>>> Virtually nobody really cares about source code and open source for >>>> spreadsheet programs. They care about manipulating and presenting data and >>>> Excel is king. >>> >>> Excel == pwned. >>> https://imgur.com/a/teQndDO >> >> Not even close. >> You'll have a tough sell on that one. >> > > If they need that many cells, or builtin arbitrary precision math, > it's an easy sell. Key word "if". Ain't gonna happen in the real world.
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| From | owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-10-24 18:50 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <80zb803gag.4@rooftop.invalid> |
| In reply to | #473381 |
proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> wrote: > On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 18:19:04 +0000 (UTC), owl wrote: > >> proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> wrote: >>> On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 18:08:07 +0000 (UTC), owl wrote: >>> >>>> proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> wrote: >>>>> On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 15:26:43 +0000 (UTC), owl wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> wrote: >>>>>>> On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 08:39:59 -0400, SilverSlimer wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 2018-10-23 10:05 p.m., owl wrote: >>>>>>>>> proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 19:13:10 +0000 (UTC), owl wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 17:11:50 +0000 (UTC), owl wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 10:57:17 -0400, SilverSlimer wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2018-10-23 10:07 a.m., proletariat wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 08:23:18 -0500, chrisv wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> proletariat wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's a rather fitting >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *plonk* >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And another Stallman worshiper surfaces like a pile of shit in a toilet >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bowl floating to the surface. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To be fair to chrisv, you're clearly a troll and he has no patient for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that. On the other hand, we can't expect any kind of objectivity from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the guy. His behaviour on the newsgroup, over the years, has made it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clear that he's an unapologetic leftist who intentionally closes his >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eyes and ears to reality. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just about everyone in this group is a troll, including the OP for this >>>>>>>>>>>>>> thread. However, based upon my own experiences I truly believe Linux is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> crap. At least for the tasks I need to perform. Linux should give up trying >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be Windows and concentrate on what it does best, supercomputers, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> embedded operating system for TV's, microwaves and such, Android and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> possibly servers. Windows and OSX run circles around Linux and no matter >>>>>>>>>>>>>> how much the bearded masses will claim Linux's superiority, the vast >>>>>>>>>>>>>> majority of people do not see it that way. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The typical Linux experience goes something like this: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. The break up with your current girlfriend. Her name is Windows. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. The discovery of a new girlfriend who does everything you deamand of her >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and doesn't cost anything or spy on you. Her name is Linux. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. The courtship and honeymoon phase with Linux. This is where Linux can do >>>>>>>>>>>>>> no wrong and you tell all your friends about how great Linux is compared to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> your old girlfriend Windows. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. The 7 month itch. This is where you start to realize all the extra hoops >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and rings you need to jump through in order to date Linux. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5. The break up with Linux. You ultimately realize you have been fooling >>>>>>>>>>>>>> yourself into believing Linux is better than your last girlfriend Windows. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6. The return to Windows. This is where you return to your previous >>>>>>>>>>>>>> girlfriend Windows because you now realize how great she is and how you >>>>>>>>>>>>>> will never leave her again. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It happens all the time when people give Linux a try. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Back to a life of "Yes, Dear." That sounds great! Not. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Beats a life of "fix this, fix that". That's life being married to Linux. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Nope. That's Windows, which is always in need of a "fix" of some sort. >>>>>>>>>>> I never have to do the kind of annoying system maintenance with Linux >>>>>>>>>>> that the typical Windows user has to put up with on almost a daily basis. >>>>>>>>>>> Linux just runs and runs without hiccup and lets me do whatever the hell >>>>>>>>>>> I want with the system. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I rarely have problems with Windows but I build my own systems and only use >>>>>>>>>> Windows Professional so I can utilize Group Policies if I wish. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Group Policy == boring, irrelevant MS SysAdmin crap that nobody but an >>>>>>>>> IT drone in a Windows-only shop even cares about. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Judging from your posting history, you are a programmer who enjoys >>>>>>>>>> tinkering with the operating system so problems with Linux are viewed as >>>>>>>>>> challenges. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> What are these "problems with Linux"? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You probably use vi or emacs to write emails to grandma so your opinion is >>>>>>>>>> one of an outlier. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You and grandma chit-chat about Group Policy? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Try showing your command line wizardry, a spreadsheet using sc and so forth >>>>>>>>>> to the population at large and they will probably consider you a relic from >>>>>>>>>> the stone age. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> They will laugh until I show it pwning Excel. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Much like the newspaper reporter who still writes his articles on a Royal >>>>>>>>>> typewriter. I'm sure they can be found as well but it's not mainstream. >>>>>>>>>> So basically, you like Linux for the very reason most people dislike Linux. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> What's a "newspaper reporter," Gramps? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I can imagine what his answer would be, but the problems I can cite with >>>>>>>> Linux are those related to ACPI (which developers will admit to and >>>>>>>> which were issues with Windows as well in the early 2000s) and >>>>>>>> third-party software. Only the former is actually a problem with Linux >>>>>>>> itself though. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I missed the original reply but, Group Policy Editor is a great tool. Linux >>>>>>> has nothing like it. Oh, and I can use the CLI to perform most if not all >>>>>>> of the same tasks, I choose not to because the chances of typing cryptic 40 >>>>>>> character line and getting it correct with no errors is low. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> SC is a joke. >>>>>>> I'm sure you can craft a scenario where it performs better than Excel just >>>>>>> like cli vs gui proponents can do the same. >>>>>> >>>>>> It's not a matter of performance. It's a matter of capability. SC is >>>>>> open source, which means that it can be easily modified to do far more >>>>>> than it's original intentions: >>>>>> >>>>>> https://imgur.com/a/teQndDO >>>>>> >>>>>> It is also public domain, which means a company deciding to do so is >>>>>> not restricted by any licensing at all. Hmm... maybe I'll keep my version >>>>>> closed-source and sell it to companies needing something more powerful >>>>>> than Excel. >>>>> >>>>> That and $10.00 will get you a one day CTA (Chicago Transit Authority). >>>>> Virtually nobody really cares about source code and open source for >>>>> spreadsheet programs. They care about manipulating and presenting data and >>>>> Excel is king. >>>> >>>> Excel == pwned. >>>> https://imgur.com/a/teQndDO >>> >>> Not even close. >>> You'll have a tough sell on that one. >>> >> >> If they need that many cells, or builtin arbitrary precision math, >> it's an easy sell. > > Key word "if". > Ain't gonna happen in the real world. We'll see. Photoshop happens in the real world, despite gimp. And all those supercomputers out there need a worthy spreadsheet.
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| From | SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> |
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| Date | 2018-10-24 16:41 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <5O4AD.228777$mJ1.158363@fx24.iad> |
| In reply to | #473374 |
On 2018-10-24 2:15 p.m., proletariat wrote: > On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 18:08:07 +0000 (UTC), owl wrote: > >> proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> wrote: >>> On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 15:26:43 +0000 (UTC), owl wrote: >>> >>>> proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> wrote: >>>>> On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 08:39:59 -0400, SilverSlimer wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 2018-10-23 10:05 p.m., owl wrote: >>>>>>> proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> wrote: >>>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 19:13:10 +0000 (UTC), owl wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 17:11:50 +0000 (UTC), owl wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 10:57:17 -0400, SilverSlimer wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2018-10-23 10:07 a.m., proletariat wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 08:23:18 -0500, chrisv wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> proletariat wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's a rather fitting >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *plonk* >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> And another Stallman worshiper surfaces like a pile of shit in a toilet >>>>>>>>>>>>>> bowl floating to the surface. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> To be fair to chrisv, you're clearly a troll and he has no patient for >>>>>>>>>>>>> that. On the other hand, we can't expect any kind of objectivity from >>>>>>>>>>>>> the guy. His behaviour on the newsgroup, over the years, has made it >>>>>>>>>>>>> clear that he's an unapologetic leftist who intentionally closes his >>>>>>>>>>>>> eyes and ears to reality. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Just about everyone in this group is a troll, including the OP for this >>>>>>>>>>>> thread. However, based upon my own experiences I truly believe Linux is >>>>>>>>>>>> crap. At least for the tasks I need to perform. Linux should give up trying >>>>>>>>>>>> to be Windows and concentrate on what it does best, supercomputers, >>>>>>>>>>>> embedded operating system for TV's, microwaves and such, Android and >>>>>>>>>>>> possibly servers. Windows and OSX run circles around Linux and no matter >>>>>>>>>>>> how much the bearded masses will claim Linux's superiority, the vast >>>>>>>>>>>> majority of people do not see it that way. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The typical Linux experience goes something like this: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 1. The break up with your current girlfriend. Her name is Windows. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 2. The discovery of a new girlfriend who does everything you deamand of her >>>>>>>>>>>> and doesn't cost anything or spy on you. Her name is Linux. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 3. The courtship and honeymoon phase with Linux. This is where Linux can do >>>>>>>>>>>> no wrong and you tell all your friends about how great Linux is compared to >>>>>>>>>>>> your old girlfriend Windows. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 4. The 7 month itch. This is where you start to realize all the extra hoops >>>>>>>>>>>> and rings you need to jump through in order to date Linux. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 5. The break up with Linux. You ultimately realize you have been fooling >>>>>>>>>>>> yourself into believing Linux is better than your last girlfriend Windows. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 6. The return to Windows. This is where you return to your previous >>>>>>>>>>>> girlfriend Windows because you now realize how great she is and how you >>>>>>>>>>>> will never leave her again. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> It happens all the time when people give Linux a try. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Back to a life of "Yes, Dear." That sounds great! Not. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Beats a life of "fix this, fix that". That's life being married to Linux. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Nope. That's Windows, which is always in need of a "fix" of some sort. >>>>>>>>> I never have to do the kind of annoying system maintenance with Linux >>>>>>>>> that the typical Windows user has to put up with on almost a daily basis. >>>>>>>>> Linux just runs and runs without hiccup and lets me do whatever the hell >>>>>>>>> I want with the system. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I rarely have problems with Windows but I build my own systems and only use >>>>>>>> Windows Professional so I can utilize Group Policies if I wish. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Group Policy == boring, irrelevant MS SysAdmin crap that nobody but an >>>>>>> IT drone in a Windows-only shop even cares about. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Judging from your posting history, you are a programmer who enjoys >>>>>>>> tinkering with the operating system so problems with Linux are viewed as >>>>>>>> challenges. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What are these "problems with Linux"? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You probably use vi or emacs to write emails to grandma so your opinion is >>>>>>>> one of an outlier. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You and grandma chit-chat about Group Policy? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Try showing your command line wizardry, a spreadsheet using sc and so forth >>>>>>>> to the population at large and they will probably consider you a relic from >>>>>>>> the stone age. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> They will laugh until I show it pwning Excel. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Much like the newspaper reporter who still writes his articles on a Royal >>>>>>>> typewriter. I'm sure they can be found as well but it's not mainstream. >>>>>>>> So basically, you like Linux for the very reason most people dislike Linux. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What's a "newspaper reporter," Gramps? >>>>>> >>>>>> I can imagine what his answer would be, but the problems I can cite with >>>>>> Linux are those related to ACPI (which developers will admit to and >>>>>> which were issues with Windows as well in the early 2000s) and >>>>>> third-party software. Only the former is actually a problem with Linux >>>>>> itself though. >>>>> >>>>> I missed the original reply but, Group Policy Editor is a great tool. Linux >>>>> has nothing like it. Oh, and I can use the CLI to perform most if not all >>>>> of the same tasks, I choose not to because the chances of typing cryptic 40 >>>>> character line and getting it correct with no errors is low. >>>>> >>>>> SC is a joke. >>>>> I'm sure you can craft a scenario where it performs better than Excel just >>>>> like cli vs gui proponents can do the same. >>>> >>>> It's not a matter of performance. It's a matter of capability. SC is >>>> open source, which means that it can be easily modified to do far more >>>> than it's original intentions: >>>> >>>> https://imgur.com/a/teQndDO >>>> >>>> It is also public domain, which means a company deciding to do so is >>>> not restricted by any licensing at all. Hmm... maybe I'll keep my version >>>> closed-source and sell it to companies needing something more powerful >>>> than Excel. >>> >>> That and $10.00 will get you a one day CTA (Chicago Transit Authority). >>> Virtually nobody really cares about source code and open source for >>> spreadsheet programs. They care about manipulating and presenting data and >>> Excel is king. >> >> Excel == pwned. >> https://imgur.com/a/teQndDO > > Not even close. > You'll have a tough sell on that one. > >>> Go ask a finance student. >> >> Ask a Harvard senior when the Revolutionary War took place. >> Students are morons. > > Touche' > I can't argue with that. Off-topic but I have to ask you this: A lot of people come and go here but your posts, so far, as pretty reasonable. Are you planning on sticking around? -- SilverSlimer
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| From | Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2018-10-24 14:00 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <e31b93e5-ad36-4ec1-8b1c-adf9acee8273@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #473405 |
On Wednesday, October 24, 2018 at 1:41:40 PM UTC-7, SilverSlimer wrote: > On 2018-10-24 2:15 p.m., proletariat wrote: > > On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 18:08:07 +0000 (UTC), owl wrote: > > > >> proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> wrote: > >>> On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 15:26:43 +0000 (UTC), owl wrote: > >>> > >>>> proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> wrote: > >>>>> On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 08:39:59 -0400, SilverSlimer wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> On 2018-10-23 10:05 p.m., owl wrote: > >>>>>>> proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> wrote: > >>>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 19:13:10 +0000 (UTC), owl wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 17:11:50 +0000 (UTC), owl wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 10:57:17 -0400, SilverSlimer wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2018-10-23 10:07 a.m., proletariat wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 08:23:18 -0500, chrisv wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> proletariat wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's a rather fitting > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *plonk* > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> And another Stallman worshiper surfaces like a pile of shit in a toilet > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> bowl floating to the surface. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> To be fair to chrisv, you're clearly a troll and he has no patient for > >>>>>>>>>>>>> that. On the other hand, we can't expect any kind of objectivity from > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the guy. His behaviour on the newsgroup, over the years, has made it > >>>>>>>>>>>>> clear that he's an unapologetic leftist who intentionally closes his > >>>>>>>>>>>>> eyes and ears to reality. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Just about everyone in this group is a troll, including the OP for this > >>>>>>>>>>>> thread. However, based upon my own experiences I truly believe Linux is > >>>>>>>>>>>> crap. At least for the tasks I need to perform. Linux should give up trying > >>>>>>>>>>>> to be Windows and concentrate on what it does best, supercomputers, > >>>>>>>>>>>> embedded operating system for TV's, microwaves and such, Android and > >>>>>>>>>>>> possibly servers. Windows and OSX run circles around Linux and no matter > >>>>>>>>>>>> how much the bearded masses will claim Linux's superiority, the vast > >>>>>>>>>>>> majority of people do not see it that way. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> The typical Linux experience goes something like this: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 1. The break up with your current girlfriend. Her name is Windows. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 2. The discovery of a new girlfriend who does everything you deamand of her > >>>>>>>>>>>> and doesn't cost anything or spy on you. Her name is Linux. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 3. The courtship and honeymoon phase with Linux. This is where Linux can do > >>>>>>>>>>>> no wrong and you tell all your friends about how great Linux is compared to > >>>>>>>>>>>> your old girlfriend Windows. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 4. The 7 month itch. This is where you start to realize all the extra hoops > >>>>>>>>>>>> and rings you need to jump through in order to date Linux. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 5. The break up with Linux. You ultimately realize you have been fooling > >>>>>>>>>>>> yourself into believing Linux is better than your last girlfriend Windows. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 6. The return to Windows. This is where you return to your previous > >>>>>>>>>>>> girlfriend Windows because you now realize how great she is and how you > >>>>>>>>>>>> will never leave her again. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> It happens all the time when people give Linux a try. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Back to a life of "Yes, Dear." That sounds great! Not. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Beats a life of "fix this, fix that". That's life being married to Linux. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Nope. That's Windows, which is always in need of a "fix" of some sort. > >>>>>>>>> I never have to do the kind of annoying system maintenance with Linux > >>>>>>>>> that the typical Windows user has to put up with on almost a daily basis. > >>>>>>>>> Linux just runs and runs without hiccup and lets me do whatever the hell > >>>>>>>>> I want with the system. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I rarely have problems with Windows but I build my own systems and only use > >>>>>>>> Windows Professional so I can utilize Group Policies if I wish. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Group Policy == boring, irrelevant MS SysAdmin crap that nobody but an > >>>>>>> IT drone in a Windows-only shop even cares about. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Judging from your posting history, you are a programmer who enjoys > >>>>>>>> tinkering with the operating system so problems with Linux are viewed as > >>>>>>>> challenges. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> What are these "problems with Linux"? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> You probably use vi or emacs to write emails to grandma so your opinion is > >>>>>>>> one of an outlier. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> You and grandma chit-chat about Group Policy? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Try showing your command line wizardry, a spreadsheet using sc and so forth > >>>>>>>> to the population at large and they will probably consider you a relic from > >>>>>>>> the stone age. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> They will laugh until I show it pwning Excel. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Much like the newspaper reporter who still writes his articles on a Royal > >>>>>>>> typewriter. I'm sure they can be found as well but it's not mainstream. > >>>>>>>> So basically, you like Linux for the very reason most people dislike Linux. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> What's a "newspaper reporter," Gramps? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I can imagine what his answer would be, but the problems I can cite with > >>>>>> Linux are those related to ACPI (which developers will admit to and > >>>>>> which were issues with Windows as well in the early 2000s) and > >>>>>> third-party software. Only the former is actually a problem with Linux > >>>>>> itself though. > >>>>> > >>>>> I missed the original reply but, Group Policy Editor is a great tool. Linux > >>>>> has nothing like it. Oh, and I can use the CLI to perform most if not all > >>>>> of the same tasks, I choose not to because the chances of typing cryptic 40 > >>>>> character line and getting it correct with no errors is low. > >>>>> > >>>>> SC is a joke. > >>>>> I'm sure you can craft a scenario where it performs better than Excel just > >>>>> like cli vs gui proponents can do the same. > >>>> > >>>> It's not a matter of performance. It's a matter of capability. SC is > >>>> open source, which means that it can be easily modified to do far more > >>>> than it's original intentions: > >>>> > >>>> https://imgur.com/a/teQndDO > >>>> > >>>> It is also public domain, which means a company deciding to do so is > >>>> not restricted by any licensing at all. Hmm... maybe I'll keep my version > >>>> closed-source and sell it to companies needing something more powerful > >>>> than Excel. > >>> > >>> That and $10.00 will get you a one day CTA (Chicago Transit Authority). > >>> Virtually nobody really cares about source code and open source for > >>> spreadsheet programs. They care about manipulating and presenting data and > >>> Excel is king. > >> > >> Excel == pwned. > >> https://imgur.com/a/teQndDO > > > > Not even close. > > You'll have a tough sell on that one. > > > >>> Go ask a finance student. > >> > >> Ask a Harvard senior when the Revolutionary War took place. > >> Students are morons. > > > > Touche' > > I can't argue with that. > > Off-topic but I have to ask you this: > > A lot of people come and go here but your posts, so far, as pretty > reasonable. Are you planning on sticking around? > > > -- > SilverSlimer Just mindless trolling. And I am replying to that trolling. THAT is what the "Steven Petruzzellis circus" is. You're like a pregnant woman hiding behind a very skinny tree. We all see you hiding there and thinking you are being clever. And you're so ignorant you keep denying it. Technologies change. I think the ubiquity of a usenet group is getting to be old fashion. Time to end this. Steven Petruzzellis is far too stupid to write a complex script. The only scripting he's capable of doing is flooding groups. I remain uncertain that these posts are automated. What were you expecting? - "You'll notice how quickly he loses interest when everything is about him. He clearly wants the attention" Steve Carroll, making the dumbest comment ever uttered.
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| From | owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-10-24 21:01 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <sz809cb8zb.e@rooftop.invalid> |
| In reply to | #473405 |
SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> wrote: > On 2018-10-24 2:15 p.m., proletariat wrote: >> On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 18:08:07 +0000 (UTC), owl wrote: >> >>> proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> wrote: >>>> On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 15:26:43 +0000 (UTC), owl wrote: >>>> >>>>> proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> wrote: >>>>>> On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 08:39:59 -0400, SilverSlimer wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2018-10-23 10:05 p.m., owl wrote: >>>>>>>> proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 19:13:10 +0000 (UTC), owl wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 17:11:50 +0000 (UTC), owl wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> proletariat <myemailisaol@defunct.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 10:57:17 -0400, SilverSlimer wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2018-10-23 10:07 a.m., proletariat wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 08:23:18 -0500, chrisv wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> proletariat wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's a rather fitting >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *plonk* >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And another Stallman worshiper surfaces like a pile of shit in a toilet >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bowl floating to the surface. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To be fair to chrisv, you're clearly a troll and he has no patient for >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that. On the other hand, we can't expect any kind of objectivity from >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the guy. His behaviour on the newsgroup, over the years, has made it >>>>>>>>>>>>>> clear that he's an unapologetic leftist who intentionally closes his >>>>>>>>>>>>>> eyes and ears to reality. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Just about everyone in this group is a troll, including the OP for this >>>>>>>>>>>>> thread. However, based upon my own experiences I truly believe Linux is >>>>>>>>>>>>> crap. At least for the tasks I need to perform. Linux should give up trying >>>>>>>>>>>>> to be Windows and concentrate on what it does best, supercomputers, >>>>>>>>>>>>> embedded operating system for TV's, microwaves and such, Android and >>>>>>>>>>>>> possibly servers. Windows and OSX run circles around Linux and no matter >>>>>>>>>>>>> how much the bearded masses will claim Linux's superiority, the vast >>>>>>>>>>>>> majority of people do not see it that way. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The typical Linux experience goes something like this: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. The break up with your current girlfriend. Her name is Windows. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. The discovery of a new girlfriend who does everything you deamand of her >>>>>>>>>>>>> and doesn't cost anything or spy on you. Her name is Linux. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. The courtship and honeymoon phase with Linux. This is where Linux can do >>>>>>>>>>>>> no wrong and you tell all your friends about how great Linux is compared to >>>>>>>>>>>>> your old girlfriend Windows. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. The 7 month itch. This is where you start to realize all the extra hoops >>>>>>>>>>>>> and rings you need to jump through in order to date Linux. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 5. The break up with Linux. You ultimately realize you have been fooling >>>>>>>>>>>>> yourself into believing Linux is better than your last girlfriend Windows. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 6. The return to Windows. This is where you return to your previous >>>>>>>>>>>>> girlfriend Windows because you now realize how great she is and how you >>>>>>>>>>>>> will never leave her again. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> It happens all the time when people give Linux a try. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Back to a life of "Yes, Dear." That sounds great! Not. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Beats a life of "fix this, fix that". That's life being married to Linux. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Nope. That's Windows, which is always in need of a "fix" of some sort. >>>>>>>>>> I never have to do the kind of annoying system maintenance with Linux >>>>>>>>>> that the typical Windows user has to put up with on almost a daily basis. >>>>>>>>>> Linux just runs and runs without hiccup and lets me do whatever the hell >>>>>>>>>> I want with the system. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I rarely have problems with Windows but I build my own systems and only use >>>>>>>>> Windows Professional so I can utilize Group Policies if I wish. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Group Policy == boring, irrelevant MS SysAdmin crap that nobody but an >>>>>>>> IT drone in a Windows-only shop even cares about. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Judging from your posting history, you are a programmer who enjoys >>>>>>>>> tinkering with the operating system so problems with Linux are viewed as >>>>>>>>> challenges. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What are these "problems with Linux"? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You probably use vi or emacs to write emails to grandma so your opinion is >>>>>>>>> one of an outlier. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You and grandma chit-chat about Group Policy? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Try showing your command line wizardry, a spreadsheet using sc and so forth >>>>>>>>> to the population at large and they will probably consider you a relic from >>>>>>>>> the stone age. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> They will laugh until I show it pwning Excel. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Much like the newspaper reporter who still writes his articles on a Royal >>>>>>>>> typewriter. I'm sure they can be found as well but it's not mainstream. >>>>>>>>> So basically, you like Linux for the very reason most people dislike Linux. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What's a "newspaper reporter," Gramps? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I can imagine what his answer would be, but the problems I can cite with >>>>>>> Linux are those related to ACPI (which developers will admit to and >>>>>>> which were issues with Windows as well in the early 2000s) and >>>>>>> third-party software. Only the former is actually a problem with Linux >>>>>>> itself though. >>>>>> >>>>>> I missed the original reply but, Group Policy Editor is a great tool. Linux >>>>>> has nothing like it. Oh, and I can use the CLI to perform most if not all >>>>>> of the same tasks, I choose not to because the chances of typing cryptic 40 >>>>>> character line and getting it correct with no errors is low. >>>>>> >>>>>> SC is a joke. >>>>>> I'm sure you can craft a scenario where it performs better than Excel just >>>>>> like cli vs gui proponents can do the same. >>>>> >>>>> It's not a matter of performance. It's a matter of capability. SC is >>>>> open source, which means that it can be easily modified to do far more >>>>> than it's original intentions: >>>>> >>>>> https://imgur.com/a/teQndDO >>>>> >>>>> It is also public domain, which means a company deciding to do so is >>>>> not restricted by any licensing at all. Hmm... maybe I'll keep my version >>>>> closed-source and sell it to companies needing something more powerful >>>>> than Excel. >>>> >>>> That and $10.00 will get you a one day CTA (Chicago Transit Authority). >>>> Virtually nobody really cares about source code and open source for >>>> spreadsheet programs. They care about manipulating and presenting data and >>>> Excel is king. >>> >>> Excel == pwned. >>> https://imgur.com/a/teQndDO >> >> Not even close. >> You'll have a tough sell on that one. >> >>>> Go ask a finance student. >>> >>> Ask a Harvard senior when the Revolutionary War took place. >>> Students are morons. >> >> Touche' >> I can't argue with that. > > Off-topic but I have to ask you this: > > A lot of people come and go here but your posts, so far, as pretty > reasonable. Are you planning on sticking around? > Why would he leave now after all these years?
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