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Linux 6.13.7

Started byvallor <vallor@cultnix.org>
First post2025-03-13 14:17 +0000
Last post2025-03-14 20:38 +0000
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  Linux 6.13.7 vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-03-13 14:17 +0000
    Re: Linux 6.13.7 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-13 16:56 +0000
      Re: Linux 6.13.7 vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-03-13 17:22 +0000
    Re: Linux 6.13.7 Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-03-13 18:52 +0000
      Re: Linux 6.13.7 vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-03-14 05:45 +0000
        Re: Linux 6.13.7 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-14 07:15 +0000
          Re: Linux 6.13.7 vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-03-14 14:13 +0000
            Re: Linux 6.13.7 Andy Gerald <andy@yohoo.net> - 2025-03-16 13:27 -0400
        Re: Linux 6.13.7 Farley Flud <fsquared@fsquared.linux> - 2025-03-14 10:27 +0000
          Re: Linux 6.13.7 vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-03-14 15:46 +0000
            Re: Linux 6.13.7 Farley Flud <fsquared@fsquared.linux> - 2025-03-14 16:14 +0000
              Re: Linux 6.13.7 vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-03-15 02:01 +0000
          Re: Linux 6.13.7 Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-03-14 20:01 +0000
            Re: Linux 6.13.7 Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-03-14 20:26 +0000
              Re: Linux 6.13.7 Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-03-14 20:35 +0000
          Re: Linux 6.13.7 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-03-14 16:26 -0500
            Re: Linux 6.13.7 Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-03-15 10:53 +0000
              Re: Linux 6.13.7 vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-03-15 11:36 +0000
              Re: Linux 6.13.7 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-03-15 13:01 -0400
                Re: Linux 6.13.7 Farley Flud <fflud@gnu.rocks> - 2025-03-15 17:29 +0000
            Re: Linux 6.13.7 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-03-15 11:30 -0700
              Re: Linux 6.13.7 Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-15 18:14 -0400
                Re: Linux 6.13.7 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-03-15 17:33 -0700
                Re: Linux 6.13.7 Scott Doty <s.doty@ewing.con> - 2025-03-16 03:50 -0400
      Re: Linux 6.13.7 Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-03-14 19:48 +0000
        Re: Linux 6.13.7 Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-03-14 20:29 +0000
          Re: Linux 6.13.7 Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-03-14 20:38 +0000

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#687497

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2025-03-15 11:30 -0700
Message-ID<67D5C74F.6B46@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#687456
Physfitfreak wrote:
> 
> On 3/14/25 5:27 AM, Farley Flud wrote:
> > On Fri, 14 Mar 2025 05:45:22 +0000, vallor wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Meanwhile, my NVMe devices are much, much faster than
> >> your spinning rust archaisms.
> >>
> >
> > That is quite irrelevant.
> >
> > All computation is performed in cache/RAM and the attached drives,
> > of whatever kind, play no role.  Even heavy disk I/O is always
> > buffered in RAM.
> >
> > Thus, the gimmicky SSDs are only useful as a badge of technical
> > fashion, just like spoilers on a car.
> >
> >
> 
> Hm.. ? I have almost identical machines, one with SSD and the other with
> HD, same RAM (12 gigs). The one with SSD is noticeably faster than the
> other.


SSD Sucks!


-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#687505

FromJoel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2025-03-15 18:14 -0400
Message-ID<bsubtj10e057j40tpngchovgjeki24vqkp@4ax.com>
In reply to#687497
The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>Physfitfreak wrote:
>> On 3/14/25 5:27 AM, Farley Flud wrote:
>> > On Fri, 14 Mar 2025 05:45:22 +0000, vallor wrote:
>> >
>> >> Meanwhile, my NVMe devices are much, much faster than
>> >> your spinning rust archaisms.
>> >
>> > That is quite irrelevant.
>> >
>> > All computation is performed in cache/RAM and the attached drives,
>> > of whatever kind, play no role.  Even heavy disk I/O is always
>> > buffered in RAM.
>> >
>> > Thus, the gimmicky SSDs are only useful as a badge of technical
>> > fashion, just like spoilers on a car.
>> 
>> Hm.. ? I have almost identical machines, one with SSD and the other with
>> HD, same RAM (12 gigs). The one with SSD is noticeably faster than the
>> other.
>
>SSD Sucks!


BS.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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#687514

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2025-03-15 17:33 -0700
Message-ID<67D61C3E.4D8D@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#687505
Joel wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >Physfitfreak wrote:
> >> On 3/14/25 5:27 AM, Farley Flud wrote:
> >> > On Fri, 14 Mar 2025 05:45:22 +0000, vallor wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Meanwhile, my NVMe devices are much, much faster than
> >> >> your spinning rust archaisms.
> >> >
> >> > That is quite irrelevant.
> >> >
> >> > All computation is performed in cache/RAM and the attached drives,
> >> > of whatever kind, play no role.  Even heavy disk I/O is always
> >> > buffered in RAM.
> >> >
> >> > Thus, the gimmicky SSDs are only useful as a badge of technical
> >> > fashion, just like spoilers on a car.
> >>
> >> Hm.. ? I have almost identical machines, one with SSD and the other with
> >> HD, same RAM (12 gigs). The one with SSD is noticeably faster than the
> >> other.
> >
> >SSD Sucks!
> 
> BS.


you plug in the ssd and error reads; cannot find ssd.



it's unstable.

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#687531

FromScott Doty <s.doty@ewing.con>
Date2025-03-16 03:50 -0400
Message-ID<MPG.42404cc45b1d627898988c@news.usenetexpress.com>
In reply to#687505
In article <bsubtj10e057j40tpngchovgjeki24vqkp@4ax.com>, joelcrump@gmail.com says...
> 
> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >Physfitfreak wrote:
> >> On 3/14/25 5:27 AM, Farley Flud wrote:
> >> > On Fri, 14 Mar 2025 05:45:22 +0000, vallor wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Meanwhile, my NVMe devices are much, much faster than
> >> >> your spinning rust archaisms.
> >> >
> >> > That is quite irrelevant.
> >> >
> >> > All computation is performed in cache/RAM and the attached drives,
> >> > of whatever kind, play no role.  Even heavy disk I/O is always
> >> > buffered in RAM.
> >> >
> >> > Thus, the gimmicky SSDs are only useful as a badge of technical
> >> > fashion, just like spoilers on a car.
> >> 
> >> Hm.. ? I have almost identical machines, one with SSD and the other with
> >> HD, same RAM (12 gigs). The one with SSD is noticeably faster than the
> >> other.
> >
> >SSD Sucks!
> 
> 
> BS.
>
>
Did you hear about the herpes program for Linux?

It's open sores.

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#687445

FromStéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr>
Date2025-03-14 19:48 +0000
Message-ID<67d4880a$0$11432$426a74cc@news.free.fr>
In reply to#687399
Le 13-03-2025, Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> a écrit :
>
> I hope that Mint-shit provides a Rust compiler because soon
> you will need it.
>
> Among other things, the kernel NVMe driver, written in Rust,
> will soon be accepted into the kernel tree.
>
> I know that you, being a patsy to technical convention, will
> certainly need that.

There will be more and more rust code in the Linux kernel. I'd like to
see how you'll manage to keep rust away of your computer. A competent
programmer could be able to convert rust code into C to avoid it, but
you aren't one of them.

> Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

Yes, if you manage to avoid having rust on your computer as you managed
avoiding python on your computer, it will be fun. Because python and
rust share a common shit: the awful version management. They have good
points but the management of old code is not one of them.

-- 
Si vous avez du temps à perdre :
https://scarpet42.gitlab.io

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#687451

FromFarley Flud <ff@linux.rocks>
Date2025-03-14 20:29 +0000
Message-ID<pan$340bd$e0de14b8$b80e35d5$19d2fbe8@linux.rocks>
In reply to#687445
On 14 Mar 2025 19:48:26 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:

> 
> There will be more and more rust code in the Linux kernel. I'd like to
> see how you'll manage to keep rust away of your computer.
>

The kernel Rust code will always be optional, and I will always reject
it.

If I cannot then I will move to FreeBSD.

-- 
Systemd: made by assholes for assholes.

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#687453

FromStéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr>
Date2025-03-14 20:38 +0000
Message-ID<67d493b1$0$16851$426a74cc@news.free.fr>
In reply to#687451
Le 14-03-2025, Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> a écrit :
> On 14 Mar 2025 19:48:26 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>
>> 
>> There will be more and more rust code in the Linux kernel. I'd like to
>> see how you'll manage to keep rust away of your computer.
>
> The kernel Rust code will always be optional, 

Always is a very long time.

> and I will always reject it.

Yes, like you reject python but still use it.

> If I cannot then I will move to FreeBSD.

Get ready to change. You'll have to learn a lot and you proved you can't
learn anything new.

-- 
Si vous avez du temps à perdre :
https://scarpet42.gitlab.io

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