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  Parallel Realities Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-10-27 18:31 -0700
    Re: (Misleading) Correlations, sans Cause and Effect. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-27 21:35 -0700
      Re: (Misleading) Correlations, sans Cause and Effect. Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-10-27 22:39 -0700
      Re: (Misleading) Correlations, sans Cause and Effect. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-28 10:27 -0700
      Re: (Misleading) Correlations, sans Cause and Effect. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-10-29 17:52 -0400
        Re: (Misleading) Correlations, sans Cause and Effect. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-29 20:53 -0700
        Re: (Misleading) Correlations, sans Cause and Effect. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-10-29 21:14 -0700
          Re: (Misleading) Correlations, sans Cause and Effect. Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-10-29 22:26 -0700
            Re: (Misleading) Correlations, sans Cause and Effect. Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-10-29 23:56 -0700
            Re: (Misleading) Correlations, sans Cause and Effect. Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-10-30 00:02 -0700
    Re: The HBO series "WestWorld". Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-10-31 18:09 -0700
      Re: My playList for reading/writing/programming. Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-10-31 22:44 -0700
        Life is a movie running at around 60 frames per second Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-11-06 03:07 -0800
          Re: Life is a movie running at around 60 frames per second Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-06 11:17 +0000
          TOE - Theory of Everything Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-11-06 03:26 -0800
            Re: If life were a movie, we'd all shit gold and piss milk. Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-11-06 04:53 -0800
              Re: Takuya Saitoh is _tired_ of living. Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-11-06 07:30 -0800
                Re: How poor are you ? Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-11-06 21:34 -0800
                  The Noosphere is real! Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-11-09 00:13 -0800
    In Moi's reality, Taka is a fruitcake. That is all that anybody needs to know John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-11-01 05:03 -0700
    Re: Parallel Realities Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-11-06 08:13 -0800
      Re: Parallel Realities Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-06 17:21 +0100
      Re: Parallel Realities John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-11-06 14:53 -0800

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#378297 — Parallel Realities

The many-worlds interpretation is an interpretation of quantum mechanics that asserts the objective reality of the universal wavefunction and denies the actuality of wavefunction collapse. Many-worlds implies that all possible alternate histories and futures are real, each representing an actual "world" (or "universe"). In layman's terms, the hypothesis states there is a very large—perhaps infinite[2]—number of universes, and everything that could possibly have happened in our past, but did not, has occurred in the past of some other universe or universes. The theory is also referred to as MWI, the relative state formulation, the Everett interpretation, the theory of the universal wavefunction, many-universes interpretation, or just many-worlds.

The original relative state formulation is due to Hugh Everett in 1957.[3][4] Later, this formulation was popularized and renamed many-worlds by Bryce Seligman DeWitt in the 1960s and 1970s.[1][5][6][7] The decoherence approaches to interpreting quantum theory have been further explored and developed,[8][9][10] becoming quite popular. MWI is one of many multiverse hypotheses in physics and philosophy. It is currently considered a mainstream interpretation along with the other decoherence interpretations, collapse theories (including the historical Copenhagen interpretation),[11] and hidden variable theories such as the Bohmian mechanics.

Before many-worlds, reality had always been viewed as a single unfolding history. Many-worlds, however, views reality as a many-branched tree, wherein every possible quantum outcome is realised.[12] Many-worlds reconciles the observation of non-deterministic events, such as random radioactive decay, with the fully deterministic equations of quantum physics.

MORE: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Many-worlds_interpretation

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#378298 — Re: (Misleading) Correlations, sans Cause and Effect.

Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> 
> WikiPedia says: ＜＜  The Many-Worlds interpretation is
>   an interpretation of quantum mechanics that asserts
>   the objective reality of the universal wavefunction
>   and denies the actuality of wavefunction collapse.  ＞＞
> 
> "Quantum Mechanics" should be called "Quantum Statistics"
> as it's just (misleading) correlations, sans cause and effect.
> 
> "Virtual Particles" and "Probability Waves" are intrinsically random;
> nature, however, is not -- Randomness is just ignorance, nothing more.
> 
> Just because something is too complex to _fully_ understand,
> like tomorrow's weather, it doesn't mean that it's _truly_ random;
> in fact, we _know_ that it isn't.
> 
> _Nothing_ can change the future, present or past;



What if you just discoverd your mother is not your mother...doesn't that
change your past?

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#378299 — Re: (Misleading) Correlations, sans Cause and Effect.

On Friday, October 28, 2016 at 1:33:22 PM UTC+9, The Starmaker wrote:
> Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> > 
> > WikiPedia says: ＜＜  The Many-Worlds interpretation is
> >   an interpretation of quantum mechanics that asserts
> >   the objective reality of the universal wavefunction
> >   and denies the actuality of wavefunction collapse.  ＞＞
> > 
> > "Quantum Mechanics" should be called "Quantum Statistics"
> > as it's just (misleading) correlations, sans cause and effect.
> > 
> > "Virtual Particles" and "Probability Waves" are intrinsically random;
> > nature, however, is not -- Randomness is just ignorance, nothing more.
> > 
> > Just because something is too complex to _fully_ understand,
> > like tomorrow's weather, it doesn't mean that it's _truly_ random;
> > in fact, we _know_ that it isn't.
> > 
> > _Nothing_ can change the future, present or past;
> 
> 
> 
> What if you just discoverd your mother is not your mother...doesn't that
> change your past?

Or if I shoot yo, I can change your future in an instant!

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#378315 — Re: (Misleading) Correlations, sans Cause and Effect.

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> >
> > WikiPedia says: ＜＜  The Many-Worlds interpretation is
> >   an interpretation of quantum mechanics that asserts
> >   the objective reality of the universal wavefunction
> >   and denies the actuality of wavefunction collapse.  ＞＞
> >
> > "Quantum Mechanics" should be called "Quantum Statistics"
> > as it's just (misleading) correlations, sans cause and effect.
> >
> > "Virtual Particles" and "Probability Waves" are intrinsically random;
> > nature, however, is not -- Randomness is just ignorance, nothing more.
> >
> > Just because something is too complex to _fully_ understand,
> > like tomorrow's weather, it doesn't mean that it's _truly_ random;
> > in fact, we _know_ that it isn't.
> >
> > _Nothing_ can change the future, present or past;
> 
> What if you just discoverd your mother is not your mother...doesn't that
> change your past?


or you have two people running for president...which is the future? Can
wiki leaks
determind and change the future??

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#378431 — Re: (Misleading) Correlations, sans Cause and Effect.

On 10/28/2016 12:35 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
>>
>> WikiPedia says: ＜＜  The Many-Worlds interpretation is
>>   an interpretation of quantum mechanics that asserts
>>   the objective reality of the universal wavefunction
>>   and denies the actuality of wavefunction collapse.  ＞＞
>>
>> "Quantum Mechanics" should be called "Quantum Statistics"
>> as it's just (misleading) correlations, sans cause and effect.
>>
>> "Virtual Particles" and "Probability Waves" are intrinsically random;
>> nature, however, is not -- Randomness is just ignorance, nothing more.
>>
>> Just because something is too complex to _fully_ understand,
>> like tomorrow's weather, it doesn't mean that it's _truly_ random;
>> in fact, we _know_ that it isn't.
>>
>> _Nothing_ can change the future, present or past;
>
>
>
> What if you just discoverd your mother is not your mother...doesn't that
> change your past?
>
Starfaker you journalist types are all idiots. You been taking fantasy 
lessons from HVAC?  What you THINK or IMAGINE does not change reality of 
what happened in the past. This is simply insane logic.

Of course Rolf is still an idiot too, since what I choose to do can 
change the future. The past is always fixed by what happened.

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#378441 — Re: (Misleading) Correlations, sans Cause and Effect.

benj wrote:
> 
> On 10/28/2016 12:35 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> >>
> >> WikiPedia says: ＜＜  The Many-Worlds interpretation is
> >>   an interpretation of quantum mechanics that asserts
> >>   the objective reality of the universal wavefunction
> >>   and denies the actuality of wavefunction collapse.  ＞＞
> >>
> >> "Quantum Mechanics" should be called "Quantum Statistics"
> >> as it's just (misleading) correlations, sans cause and effect.
> >>
> >> "Virtual Particles" and "Probability Waves" are intrinsically random;
> >> nature, however, is not -- Randomness is just ignorance, nothing more.
> >>
> >> Just because something is too complex to _fully_ understand,
> >> like tomorrow's weather, it doesn't mean that it's _truly_ random;
> >> in fact, we _know_ that it isn't.
> >>
> >> _Nothing_ can change the future, present or past;
> >
> >
> >
> > What if you just discoverd your mother is not your mother...doesn't that
> > change your past?
> >
> Starfaker you journalist types are all idiots. You been taking fantasy
> lessons from HVAC?  What you THINK or IMAGINE does not change reality of
> what happened in the past. This is simply insane logic.
> 
> Of course Rolf is still an idiot too, since what I choose to do can
> change the future. The past is always fixed by what happened.


general theory of relativity does not forbid travel into the past

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#378442 — Re: (Misleading) Correlations, sans Cause and Effect.

benj wrote:
> 
> On 10/28/2016 12:35 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> >>
> >> WikiPedia says: ＜＜  The Many-Worlds interpretation is
> >>   an interpretation of quantum mechanics that asserts
> >>   the objective reality of the universal wavefunction
> >>   and denies the actuality of wavefunction collapse.  ＞＞
> >>
> >> "Quantum Mechanics" should be called "Quantum Statistics"
> >> as it's just (misleading) correlations, sans cause and effect.
> >>
> >> "Virtual Particles" and "Probability Waves" are intrinsically random;
> >> nature, however, is not -- Randomness is just ignorance, nothing more.
> >>
> >> Just because something is too complex to _fully_ understand,
> >> like tomorrow's weather, it doesn't mean that it's _truly_ random;
> >> in fact, we _know_ that it isn't.
> >>
> >> _Nothing_ can change the future, present or past;
> >
> >
> >
> > What if you just discoverd your mother is not your mother...doesn't that
> > change your past?
> >
> Starfaker you journalist types are all idiots. You been taking fantasy
> lessons from HVAC?  What you THINK or IMAGINE does not change reality of
> what happened in the past. This is simply insane logic.


if you remember your past..
and it changes..
you change your past..

Now you must make a new
past with your new mother...

and play catch up...
to the present.

You will find
your changed past changes
your present and future.

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#378443 — Re: (Misleading) Correlations, sans Cause and Effect.

Well, the parallel universes explain it all.  Yo can go and change yo past only in another parallel reality.  Isn't the quantum theory beautiful?  Yo life is already running (or not running) in endless parallel realities with different outcomes.  Now just tell me how do yo move to another parallel universe?  With the help of some hallucinogenic drugs?

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#378445 — Re: (Misleading) Correlations, sans Cause and Effect.

Now in the quantum World, consequences come before the events "causing" them, hence the causality gets reversed.  It has been known that the endocrine disruptors in out environment cause more girls than boys to be born.  But recently, at least here in Japan, more boys are born.  This could mean that a real (nuclear)war is coming, because males make better soldiers than females.  Testosteron is on and is gonna destroy this World....  No more nuclear missile dick waving, there will be launches.  What rises from the ashes afterwards, no one knows.

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#378446 — Re: (Misleading) Correlations, sans Cause and Effect.

On Sunday, October 30, 2016 at 2:26:12 PM UTC+9, Takuya Saitoh wrote:
> Well, the parallel universes explain it all.  Yo can go and change yo past only in another parallel reality.  Isn't the quantum theory beautiful?  Yo life is already running (or not running) in endless parallel realities with different outcomes.  Now just tell me how do yo move to another parallel universe?  With the help of some hallucinogenic drugs?

I want to escape to the parallel universe known as the Heaven before the hell on the Earth gets loose.  Who wants to board the ship with me?  Leaving at 11 o'clock to the Alice Wonderland, meet yo at the mall...

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#378751 — Re: The HBO series "WestWorld".

On Tuesday, November 1, 2016 at 2:24:23 AM UTC+9, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> The HBO series "WestWorld" is a good example of
> " The Selfish Robot " I've been talking about.
> 
> Nature programmed us to play _Selfish_ games; to wit:
> 
>   Eating, Breathing, Drinking, Shitting, Whoring, etc.
> 
> Religion ( sex, drugs and music ) is a good example of 
> how we're programmed to feel more important ( to society )
> than we really are.

What is yo religion, Jeff?  Could you live without Windoze/computer/tablet on a deserted island?

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#378803 — Re: My playList for reading/writing/programming.

On Tuesday, November 1, 2016 at 12:44:40 PM UTC+9, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> You ( Takuya Saitoh ) asked me:
> > What is yo religion, Jeff?  
> 
> I'm atheist, of course.  I don't have sex.
> I neither drink nor do drugs; not even legal drugs.
> I smoke cigs and listen to music, mostly.

cigs/nicotine is a legal drug
 
> ＜My playList for reading/writing/programming＞.
> 
> Also, I enjoy HBO, BBC and YouTube.
> 
> > Could you live without Windoze/computer/tablet
> > on a deserted island?
> 
> No, not for long, hopefully;
> I _must_ have Windows 10 and a good internet connection.

The M$ OS is yo religion then...

> I enjoy my Win 10 desktop 24/7/365.
> Other than flashlights and my cordless house phone ( VoIP ),
> I do not use batteries: no cell phone, laptop or tablet.
> 
> I might buy a portable MP3 player, maybe.

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#379423 — Life is a movie running at around 60 frames per second

MINDBLOWING: Experiment you can do yourselve to proof you are living in some kind of Computer Generated Virtual Reality!
In this topic I want to show a proof that reality is a projected world, created on the fly by some advanced computer or mind.

The fact that quantum states exist make me think that we really are living in a simulation.

1. Reality which you do not observe, is in a superposition It's every possibilty at once. Indeed, the cup on your table is there and not there at once.

It has been proven that in fact there is nothing, until you observe it. Only when you are observing something with your senses, it pops into existence. Look for the "Double Slit Experiment" which proves this.

For those who don't know what it is: watch this short cartoon first:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwXQjRBLwsQ

This experiment has also been proven to work with something as big as molecules.

So what do we know now? Matter can be everything, every possibilty, until you observe it.

2. The images you see are not a stream. They are seperate frames stitched together
What we see is not analog, not seamless: It's in fact many frames per second.

Life isn’t a stream; it’s a movie. Like a projectionist stitching together reels without audiences noticing, the brain collects the frames of reality sent to it and weaves them into one apparently seamless whole. The human frame rate shows us life at a certain speed, but life can be much faster or slower if we change it.

Have you ever been next to a moving car with wheels that looked like they were going backwards? Blame the human frame rate. According to research that determined how many light flashes per second the human brain can discern as separate before they look like a steady beam, scientists have found that for us, life is a movie running at around 60 frames per second.

Indeed, with high-speed camera's you can record much more frames per second, but in the end, what YOU observe, is only 60 frames per second.

3. Reality is like a virtual reality game.

Reality is just like a Virtual Reality game: the GPU only processes the images when you look at it. All the other is just information in memory, or in a algoritm.

When you play Counterstrike, only the image on your monitor is processed by the GPU. The rest of the virtual world is just a algorithm which bary takes computing power.

Indeed, it is the same way OUR world is rendered! ONLY WHEN YOU LOOK AT SOMETHING, THE MATTER IS RENDERED. BEFORE THAT, it's just data, a superposition of possibilities.

The game "NO MAN'S SKY" is an extremly simple, but accurate example of how our world is created.

1. All objects are created by a designer in a big database
2. The world is RENDERED ON THE FLY

When multiplayer is intruduced, it even more accurately simulates the "real" world.

4. There's a delay when rendering a completely other frame
A computer can render images very fast when it has to display the same scene, for example when it's showing a static or slightly moving landscape with dinosaurs walking in it.

TV's with frame interpolation can this way make a 25 images/second look like 100 images/second by calculating the missing frames by comparing the previous and next frame. The missing frames are not there, but are rendered on the fly.

But when there's too much difference between the frames, there can occur a disturbance which can be seen as distortion in the screen. It costs more processing power to calculate the frames when the previous and next frame are very different.

When a complete new scene occurs, a computer has to completely calculate the new image, which takes extra computer power. After that, when one image differs slightly from the next image, it can be rendered fast again.

The images of the reality you see are also rendered on the fly, as the Double Slit experiment suggests.

5. Experiment you can do to proof the same goes for your reality
So that makes you wonder, if the universe is also a computer generated world, could there be a delay when you look from for instance the mouse on your table to the clock on the wall? Does it cost the Universe computer more processing power when a complete different image has to be rendered?

Try it. Do you have a clock on the wall with a second hand? Look at your mouse for a few seconds. Now look at the clock's second hand. Did you notice something? No? Try it again. Or take your watch which has a second hand or seconds display. Try it again.

Close your eyes. This shows the frame: BLACK. Now look at your watch. This is a completely different image for the universe computer.
If you look just at the moment a new second occurs, THE FIRST SECOND YOU SEE IS DELAYED.

If you don't have a clock, you can watch this youtube analog clock on full screen:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEJqy1Wlovw

Try it... close your eyes and look at the clock. The first second takes longer then the following seconds... that proves the universe is indeed some kind of computer. It takes longer to process the completely new image.

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#379424 — Re: Life is a movie running at around 60 frames per second

On 2016-11-06, Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> wrote:

> MINDBLOWING: Experiment you can do yourselve to proof you are living in
> some kind of Computer Generated Virtual Reality!  In this topic I want to
> show a proof that reality is a projected world, created on the fly by some
> advanced computer or mind.
>
Only one thing is certain - death. And you have to do only two things : to
shit and piss....

-- 
press any key to continue or any other to quit

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#379425 — TOE - Theory of Everything

Learn some from Tom Campbell, Jeff, he isn't bluffing!

https://www.youtube.com/user/twcjr44

http://www.my-big-toe.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsxA7OU7fR0

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#379426 — Re: If life were a movie, we'd all shit gold and piss milk.

On Sunday, November 6, 2016 at 9:34:52 PM UTC+9, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> If life were a movie, we'd all shit gold and piss milk;
> and everyone would have flawless/beautiful teeth.
> 
> No, We're selfish robots.
> Nature programmed us to play _Selfish_ games; to wit:
> 
>   Eating, Breathing, Drinking, Shitting, Whoring, etc.
> 
> "Religion" ( i.e. sex, drugs and music ) is a good example of 
> how we're programmed to feel more important ( to society )
> than we really are.

We are programmed by the _EVOLUTION_ to survive to breed and propagate in the Earth's native environment.  The program runs aberrantly in the modern megaCity environment and when the "healthcare" and social system keep us alive well beyond the reproductive age.  We haven't been programmed to sit at the Windoze/Linux computor whole day. Who runs the EVOLUTION program behind the scenes is what truly interests me...

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20724817

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antagonistic_pleiotropy_hypothesis

What the Quantum Mechanics taught me is that I should be also looking inside us for the God/Master programmer...

Just admire it Jeff, yo as well as me should be already dead if living in the wild, taken down by our younger and stronger peers competing for the fertile women...

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#379447 — Re: Takuya Saitoh is _tired_ of living.

On Sunday, November 6, 2016 at 11:50:01 PM UTC+9, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> Takuya Saitoh,  Your "The End is Near" posts 
> tell me that you're _tired_ of living.
> 
> Did you vote for Trump, hoping he'd end it all ? !
> 
> "Quantum Mechanics" should be called "Quantum Statistics"
> as it's just (misleading) correlations, sans cause and effect.
> 
> "Virtual Particles" and "Probability Waves" are intrinsically random;
> nature, however, is not -- Randomness is just ignorance, nothing more.
> 
> Just because something is too complex to _fully_ understand,
> like tomorrow's weather, it doesn't mean that it's _truly_ random;
> in fact, we _know_ that it isn't.
> 
> _Nothing_ can change the future, present or past;
> the (4d) TimeScape is static.  The more ignorant you are,
> the more you ( erroneously ) believe in "free will".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03kWA2UM16o

R = I

Look dude, I have been through nuclear war while yo were hiding in mom's basement, so I'm entitled to be "_tired_ of living" in this particular reality where yo got to wageslave for the men till grave to earn basic living.  Perhaps I better retire to a shack early but that is not the way how things work on this island.  I notice yo started repeating the same thing over and over like our senior citizen when he gets cornered.  Have yo also started taking that steroid hormone VitD3?

I'll live forever or die trying...

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#379594 — Re: How poor are you ?

On Monday, November 7, 2016 at 2:22:50 AM UTC+9, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> You ( Takuya "The End is Near" Saitoh ) told me:
> > Look dude, I have been through nuclear war
> > while yo were hiding in mom's basement,
> 
> Are you 95 years old ?  Do you live in Japan ?
> You don't tell us, so I don't know.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGhOW3DLlow

> You don't know what I was doing, when;
> you can halluciate about it, like John Gohde does,
> imagining this and that... but you don't know.
> 
> > I'm entitled to be "_tired_ of living"
> > in _this_ _particular_ reality... where you got to
> > wageslave for the men till grave to earn basic living.
> 
> I never said you weren't entitled to "it" ( your depression ).
> How poor are you ?  What kind of "wage slave" are you ?
> You haven't said, and I doubt you ever will; you're too ashamed.
> 
> > Perhaps I better retire to a shack early
> > but that is not the way how things work on this island.
> 
> Japan is rich; even the brainless live well there, I imagine.
> 
> > I notice yo started repeating the same thing over and over 
> > like our senior citizen when he gets cornered.
> 
> Sorry, but my answer never changes; Re: your: ＜＜
> 
>   Quantum Mechanics taught me is that I should be 
>   looking inside us for the God/Master programmer ＞＞
> 
> > Have yo also started taking that steroid hormone VitD3?
> 
> John Gohde is flat out hallucinating, tripping balls,
> like a 60's era hippy on LSD.
> 
> > I'll live forever or die trying...
> 
> In your worst nightmare, sure.

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#379843 — The Noosphere is real!

http://global-mind.org/gcpdot/

Look at the DOT, look at her, how she rode through the ballot counting!!!  Its amazing, how we create our reality!

http://noosphere.princeton.edu/index.html

----------------

while in another Universe Hillary just won the election, LOL....

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#378817 — In Moi's reality, Taka is a fruitcake. That is all that anybody needs to know

On Thursday, October 27, 2016 at 9:31:19 PM UTC-4, Takuya Saitoh wrote:
> The many-worlds interpretation is an interpretation of quantum mechanics that asserts the objective reality of the universal wavefunction and denies the actuality of wavefunction collapse. Many-worlds implies that all possible alternate histories and futures are real, each representing an actual "world" 


It helps if you know a lot about mathematics and as loony as a fruitcake.

In Moi's reality, Taka is a fruitcake. That is all that anybody needs to know.

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