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  Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-02 08:25 -0700
    Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-02 10:09 -0600
      Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-02 09:12 -0700
        Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-02 13:57 -0600
          Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-02 13:36 -0700
            Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-02 19:36 -0600
      Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-10-02 18:37 +0000
        Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 11:52 -0700
          Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-02 19:16 +0000
            Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 12:30 -0700
              Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-02 19:36 +0000
                Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 12:41 -0700
          Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-10-02 19:35 +0000
            Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-02 19:45 +0000
              Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-10-02 20:08 +0000
              Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-02 18:05 -0400
            Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-02 17:59 -0400
        Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-02 13:58 -0600
    Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-02 12:15 -0400
      Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-02 09:22 -0700
        Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-02 12:26 -0400
        Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-10-02 13:33 -0400
          Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone Godzilla <godzilla@lizardboss.invalid> - 2016-10-02 17:47 +0000
          Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone Tattoo Vampire <sitting@this.computer> - 2016-10-02 14:14 -0400
            Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone Se7en <se7en@firemail.cc> - 2016-10-02 18:16 +0000
            Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-10-02 19:53 +0000
              Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-02 18:06 -0400
              Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone tmelmosfire <tmelmosfire@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 15:30 -0700
          Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 11:18 -0700
            Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone tmelmosfire <tmelmosfire@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 11:24 -0700
              Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-02 14:19 -0600
                Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone tmelmosfire <tmelmosfire@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 15:29 -0700
                  Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone "GreyCloud" <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-10-02 18:08 -0600
            Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-02 19:03 +0000
            Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-10-02 19:47 +0000
          Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-02 18:28 +0000
            Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone tmelmosfire <tmelmosfire@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 11:37 -0700
              Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-02 14:20 -0600
                Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone tmelmosfire <tmelmosfire@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 15:35 -0700
                  Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone "GreyCloud" <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-10-02 18:11 -0600
            Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-02 17:52 -0400
              Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-10-03 00:01 +0200
                Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-02 18:17 -0400
                  Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-10-02 19:26 -0400
                    Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-10-02 23:47 +0000
                      Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-10-03 09:06 -0400
                Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-10-02 23:20 +0000
                Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-10-02 19:35 -0400
                  Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-02 19:45 -0400
                  Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-03 02:32 +0000
                  Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-10-03 09:08 +0100
          Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-10-02 18:39 +0000
          Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-02 17:43 -0400
    Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 09:17 -0700
      Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-02 12:24 -0400
      Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 11:20 -0700
      Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-10-02 18:42 +0000
    Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-04 07:46 -0500
      Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-10-04 10:34 -0400
        Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-10-04 17:02 +0200
        Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-04 11:54 -0400
          Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-10-04 12:41 -0400
            Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-04 14:09 -0400
            Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-10-05 01:33 +0200
              Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-10-04 19:43 -0400
                Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-10-05 01:55 +0200
          Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-04 12:52 -0400
            Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-04 16:17 -0400
              Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-04 18:49 -0400
                Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-04 19:15 -0400
                  Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-04 22:07 -0400
                    Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-05 06:46 -0500
                    Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-05 07:57 -0400
                      Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-05 12:32 -0400
                        Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-05 12:35 -0400
                          Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-05 13:20 -0400
                            Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-05 16:25 -0400
                              Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-05 18:30 -0400
                                Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-10-06 00:39 +0200
                                Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-05 18:41 -0400
                                  Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone Brandi Moorehead <mooreshead@mail.com> - 2016-10-05 23:21 +0000
                                Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-10-05 23:45 +0100
                                  Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-10-05 20:39 -0400
                            Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-10-05 23:08 +0100
                              Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-10-05 23:03 +0000
                              Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-10-05 20:35 -0400
                            Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-10-05 23:02 +0000
                              Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-10-06 00:21 +0100
                              Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-05 21:42 -0400
                                Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-10-06 10:42 -0400
                                  Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-06 12:22 -0400
                            Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-06 06:40 -0500
                              Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-06 09:30 -0400
                                Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-06 11:03 -0600
                                  Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-06 14:42 -0400
                        Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-10-05 17:14 +0000
          Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-10-05 01:35 +0200
            Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-04 19:38 -0400
              Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-10-05 01:53 +0200
      Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-04 10:53 -0400
        Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone tmelmosfire <tmelmosfire@gmail.com> - 2016-10-04 08:44 -0700
        Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-10-04 09:02 -0700
          Re: Purism Want To Make a Truly Open-Source Linux Phone tmelmosfire <tmelmosfire@gmail.com> - 2016-10-04 09:05 -0700

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#375120

Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> wrote in news:nt3vip$2pa$1@dont-email.me:

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> On 2016-10-05 6:30 PM, Marek Novotny wrote:
>> On 2016-10-05, Silver Slimer <> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 2016-10-05 1:20 PM, Marek Novotny wrote:
>>>> On 2016-10-05, Silver Slimer <> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 2016-10-05 12:32 PM, Marek Novotny wrote:
>>>>>> On 2016-10-05, Silver Slimer <> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 2016-10-04 10:07 PM, Marek Novotny wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2016-10-04, Silver Slimer <> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 2016-10-04 6:49 PM, Marek Novotny wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-10-04, Silver Slimer <> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-10-04 12:52 PM, Marek Novotny wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-10-04, Silver Slimer <> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have to admit that I don't recall anything
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in any distribution of Linux which gives you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a list of _every_ piece of software installed
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in one window. Synaptic technically could as
>>>>>>>>>>>>> far as I know but that didn't show you what
>>>>>>>>>>>>> programs were installed as much as which
>>>>>>>>>>>>> packages were installed.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> $ dpkg -l
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> The point DFS was making is that seeing such a
>>>>>>>>>>> list necessitates a command-line entry and that
>>>>>>>>>>> there is no GUI tool for such a task. By
>>>>>>>>>>> providing that line, you essentially prove him
>>>>>>>>>>> right (which is bad because he'll never shut up
>>>>>>>>>>> about it... since he's an asshole and all).
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I don't recall seeing any GUI tool which does
>>>>>>>>>>> the same thing myself.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> He's a database admin. He can't push that into a
>>>>>>>>>> GUI database? Since when? I don't care what DFS
>>>>>>>>>> does. He's just a troll. Having a GUI tool or not
>>>>>>>>>> means squat to me, and I am a Linux user. Who cares
>>>>>>>>>> what a non-Linux user thinks about Linux. Not me.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> The way I see it, every Linux user here thinks that 
>>>>>>>>> anyone who doesn't blindly love Linux is a troll.
>>>>>>>>> I'm hoping you're not the same way but you seem to
>>>>>>>>> want to be.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> There is an on going argument. And who really thinks
>>>>>>>> that, you or them?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> What specifically are you asking?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Name the Linux users here that believe that those who don't
>>>>>>  *bindly* love Linux are trolls.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> What's that list look like?
>>>>> 
>>>>> - - Peter the Klöwn - - Wideload Porkster - - Chris AssStorm
>>>>> - - hypochrisv - - wRonG
>>>> 
>>>> I don't know Wrong.
>>> 
>>> It'S RonB. He's been renamed because his track record of
>>> accuracy is comparable only to Tim Kaine's.
>>> 
>>>> I assume you mean William in #2.
>>> 
>>> A living, breathing toilet yes.
>>> 
>>>> Peter is no clown.
>>> 
>>> For someone who behaves like an authority on Linux knowledge, he
>>> always finds a way to make idiotic statements which I eventually
>>> have to correct all the while never admitting to his blatant
>>> errors. Don't forget, he told me a few days ago that the AAC
>>> codec is reserved for movies and not in any music manager
>>> despite being the codec the iTunes Store has used from its very
>>> inception. He also told me that openSUSE does not provide a
>>> warning about Steam in the distribution and refused to apologize
>>> after I showed him a link demonstrating just that. He also
>>> denied that the Steam package in openSUSE is actually an Ubuntu
>>> one despite that same page saying exactly that. In other words,
>>> he is either a clown or a complete moron. I think he's both so I
>>> might as well refer to him as Peter the Klöwn.
>>> 
>>>> Chris and Chris are okay.
>>> 
>>> I can't imagine how difficult it must have been for you to
>>> blatantly lie and say that. Neither Chris is okay.
>>> 
>>>> I have said things less than *love* in each of their company
>>>> and have not seen word one for my lack of blind love for Linux.
>>>> That doesn't dove-tail with your view here.
>>> 
>>> Keep watching; they'll expose themselves eventually. They're
>>> just being careful with you for the time being.
>> 
>> AAC can absolutely be used for Music encoding. Not sure what the
>> origin of the codec was intended for. You can google that. But
>> yes, anyone who owns an iPod will be familiar with it as we all
>> got an earful on it when Apple adopted it. Maybe Peter is
>> confusing it with AC3.
> 
> Peter the Klöwn made a mistake? Impossible! He will never admit
> to having done it either way. He'll either tell you that he never
> said that AAC is for the movies (even though anyone can view the
> article themselves and see that he did) or that he's right and AAC
> is exclusive to movies. The guy is an idiot.
> 
>> I gather English is not his first language so you have to make
>> allowances for what he says. Don't hang on every word.
> 
> His English is fine and I don't accept that as an excuse. He's a
> stubborn old idiot and a miserable loser.
> 
>> I can say DFS screws up as well. I just don't save them and
>> started ignoring him so I don't see it any more. You should just
>> move on. This war serves no purpose.
>> 
>> People error or make claims and get corrected all the time. I got
>> so used to it I used to say, corrections welcomed after
>> everything I said.
> 
> I have no problem with making a mistake and will admit to doing so
> if it happens. 
> Silver Slimer
> Islam is a disease

Is that you snit?

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#375109

On 5/10/2016 23:30 in comp.os.linux.advocacy, Marek Novotny posted:

> On 2016-10-05, Silver Slimer <> wrote:
>>
>> On 2016-10-05 1:20 PM, Marek Novotny wrote:
>>> On 2016-10-05, Silver Slimer <> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On 2016-10-05 12:32 PM, Marek Novotny wrote:
>>>>> On 2016-10-05, Silver Slimer <> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 2016-10-04 10:07 PM, Marek Novotny wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2016-10-04, Silver Slimer <> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 2016-10-04 6:49 PM, Marek Novotny wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2016-10-04, Silver Slimer <> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-10-04 12:52 PM, Marek Novotny wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-10-04, Silver Slimer <> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> I have to admit that I don't recall anything in
>>>>>>>>>>>> any distribution of Linux which gives you a list
>>>>>>>>>>>> of _every_ piece of software installed in one
>>>>>>>>>>>> window. Synaptic technically could as far as I
>>>>>>>>>>>> know but that didn't show you what programs were
>>>>>>>>>>>> installed as much as which packages were
>>>>>>>>>>>> installed.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> $ dpkg -l
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> The point DFS was making is that seeing such a list 
>>>>>>>>>> necessitates a command-line entry and that there is
>>>>>>>>>> no GUI tool for such a task. By providing that line,
>>>>>>>>>> you essentially prove him right (which is bad because
>>>>>>>>>> he'll never shut up about it... since he's an asshole
>>>>>>>>>> and all).
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I don't recall seeing any GUI tool which does the
>>>>>>>>>> same thing myself.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> He's a database admin. He can't push that into a GUI 
>>>>>>>>> database? Since when? I don't care what DFS does. He's
>>>>>>>>> just a troll. Having a GUI tool or not means squat to
>>>>>>>>> me, and I am a Linux user. Who cares what a non-Linux
>>>>>>>>> user thinks about Linux. Not me.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The way I see it, every Linux user here thinks that
>>>>>>>> anyone who doesn't blindly love Linux is a troll. I'm
>>>>>>>> hoping you're not the same way but you seem to want to
>>>>>>>> be.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> There is an on going argument. And who really thinks that,
>>>>>>> you or them?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> What specifically are you asking?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Name the Linux users here that believe that those who don't 
>>>>> *bindly* love Linux are trolls.
>>>>> 
>>>>> What's that list look like?
>>>> 
>>>> - - Peter the Klöwn - - Wideload Porkster - - Chris AssStorm - -
>>>> hypochrisv - - wRonG
>>> 
>>> I don't know Wrong.
>>
>> It'S RonB. He's been renamed because his track record of accuracy is
>> comparable only to Tim Kaine's.
>>
>>> I assume you mean William in #2.
>>
>> A living, breathing toilet yes.
>>
>>> Peter is no clown.
>>
>> For someone who behaves like an authority on Linux knowledge, he
>> always finds a way to make idiotic statements which I eventually have
>> to correct all the while never admitting to his blatant errors. Don't
>> forget, he told me a few days ago that the AAC codec is reserved for
>> movies and not in any music manager despite being the codec the iTunes
>> Store has used from its very inception. He also told me that openSUSE
>> does not provide a warning about Steam in the distribution and refused
>> to apologize after I showed him a link demonstrating just that. He
>> also denied that the Steam package in openSUSE is actually an Ubuntu
>> one despite that same page saying exactly that. In other words, he is
>> either a clown or a complete moron. I think he's both so I might as
>> well refer to him as Peter the Klöwn.
>>
>>> Chris and Chris are okay.
>>
>> I can't imagine how difficult it must have been for you to blatantly
>> lie and say that. Neither Chris is okay.
>>
>>> I have said things less than *love* in each of their company and
>>> have not seen word one for my lack of blind love for Linux. That
>>> doesn't dove-tail with your view here.
>>
>> Keep watching; they'll expose themselves eventually. They're just
>> being careful with you for the time being.
>
> AAC can absolutely be used for Music encoding. Not sure what the origin of
> the codec was intended for. You can google that. But yes, anyone who
> owns an iPod will be familiar with it as we all got an earful on it when
> Apple adopted it. Maybe Peter is confusing it with AC3. I gather English
> is not his first language so you have to make allowances for what he
> says. Don't hang on every word. 
>
> I can say DFS screws up as well. I just don't save them and started
> ignoring him so I don't see it any more. You should just move on. This
> war serves no purpose. 
>
> People error or make claims and get corrected all the time. I got so
> used to it I used to say, corrections welcomed after everything I said. 

Keep watching; Slimeball will expose himself eventually. He's
just being careful with you for the time being. IMO he's already started
to.....


-- 
If your primary interest in computing is downloading music for your 
whatever, or playing games, you belong in the cattle pen Mr Gates built.

Windows is specifically designed for people who don't understand 
computing and don't want to be bothered.

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#375146

William Poaster wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On 5/10/2016 23:30 in comp.os.linux.advocacy, Marek Novotny posted:
>
>> On 2016-10-05, Silver Slimer <> wrote:
>>>
>>> Keep watching; they'll expose themselves eventually. They're just
>>> being careful with you for the time being.

LOL

>> AAC can absolutely be used for Music encoding. Not sure what the origin of
>> the codec was intended for. You can google that. But yes, anyone who
>> owns an iPod will be familiar with it as we all got an earful on it when
>> Apple adopted it. Maybe Peter is confusing it with AC3. I gather English
>> is not his first language so you have to make allowances for what he
>> says. Don't hang on every word. 
>>
>> I can say DFS screws up as well. I just don't save them and started
>> ignoring him so I don't see it any more. You should just move on. This
>> war serves no purpose. 
>>
>> People error or make claims and get corrected all the time. I got so
>> used to it I used to say, corrections welcomed after everything I said. 
>
> Keep watching; Slimeball will expose himself eventually. He's
> just being careful with you for the time being. IMO he's already started
> to.....

Perhaps Marek has seen some of the "Slimer" quotes that chrisv sticks in his
sig....

-- 
Tomorrow, this will be part of the unchangeable past but fortunately,
it can still be changed today.

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#375097

On 5/10/2016 18:20 in comp.os.linux.advocacy, Marek Novotny posted:

> On 2016-10-05, Silver Slimer <> wrote:

<snip for brevity>

>>> Name the Linux users here that believe that those who don't
>>> *bindly* love Linux are trolls.
>>> 
>>> What's that list look like?
>>
>> - - Peter the Klöwn
>> - - Wideload Porkster
>> - - Chris AssStorm
>> - - hypochrisv
>> - - wRonG
>
> I don't know Wrong. I assume you mean William in #2. Peter is no clown.
> Chris and Chris are okay. I have said things less than *love* in each of
> their company and have not seen word one for my lack of blind love for
> Linux. That doesn't dove-tail with your view here. 

It won't. We know the nymshifting Slimeball for what he is, & his
history. He was shown up a few times, both here & in the Ubuntu group,
for being a troll & charlatan, & that he doesn't like.

-- 
If your primary interest in computing is downloading music for your 
whatever, or playing games, you belong in the cattle pen Mr Gates built.

Windows is specifically designed for people who don't understand 
computing and don't want to be bothered.

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#375118

On Wed, 05 Oct 2016 23:08:03 +0100, William Poaster wrote:

> It won't. We know the nymshifting Slimeball for what he is, & his
> history. He was shown up a few times, both here & in the Ubuntu group,
> for being a troll & charlatan, & that he doesn't like.

Yep. What would really "get his goat" is if we could ignore his trolling 
completely. 

-- 
Zero tolerance for iCultists and WinDrones

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#375145

William Poaster wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On 5/10/2016 18:20 in comp.os.linux.advocacy, Marek Novotny posted:
>
>> On 2016-10-05, Silver Slimer <> wrote:
>
> <snip for brevity>
>
>>>> Name the Linux users here that believe that those who don't
>>>> *bindly* love Linux are trolls.
>>>> 
>>>> What's that list look like?
>>>
>>> - - Peter the Klöwn
>>> - - Wideload Porkster
>>> - - Chris AssStorm
>>> - - hypochrisv
>>> - - wRonG
>>
>> I don't know Wrong. I assume you mean William in #2. Peter is no clown.
>> Chris and Chris are okay. I have said things less than *love* in each of
>> their company and have not seen word one for my lack of blind love for
>> Linux. That doesn't dove-tail with your view here. 
>
> It won't. We know the nymshifting Slimeball for what he is, & his
> history. He was shown up a few times, both here & in the Ubuntu group,
> for being a troll & charlatan, & that he doesn't like.

One would hope that Marek wouldn't credit the reports of someone who mangles
the names of posters in a most insulting way :-)

-- 
But then you dont seem to mind how inept and stupid you make yourself
sound to earn another doggy drop from your Master Roy. hell, you even
have Willy Poaster shilling you. That's how far you have slipped on the
COLA ladder.
   -- "Hadron" <gi5k60$err$2@reader.motzarella.org>

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#375116

On Wed, 05 Oct 2016 13:20:21 -0400, Marek Novotny wrote:

> On 2016-10-05, Silver Slimer <> wrote:
>>
>> On 2016-10-05 12:32 PM, Marek Novotny wrote:
>>> On 2016-10-05, Silver Slimer <> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On 2016-10-04 10:07 PM, Marek Novotny wrote:
>>>>> On 2016-10-04, Silver Slimer <> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 2016-10-04 6:49 PM, Marek Novotny wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2016-10-04, Silver Slimer <> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 2016-10-04 12:52 PM, Marek Novotny wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2016-10-04, Silver Slimer <> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> I have to admit that I don't recall anything in any
>>>>>>>>>> distribution of Linux which gives you a list of _every_ piece
>>>>>>>>>> of software installed in one window. Synaptic technically could
>>>>>>>>>> as far as I know but that didn't show you what programs were
>>>>>>>>>> installed as much as which packages were installed.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> $ dpkg -l
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The point DFS was making is that seeing such a list necessitates
>>>>>>>> a command-line entry and that there is no GUI tool for such a
>>>>>>>> task. By providing that line, you essentially prove him right
>>>>>>>> (which is bad because he'll never shut up about it... since he's
>>>>>>>> an asshole and all).
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I don't recall seeing any GUI tool which does the same thing
>>>>>>>> myself.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> He's a database admin. He can't push that into a GUI database?
>>>>>>> Since when? I don't care what DFS does. He's just a troll. Having
>>>>>>> a GUI tool or not means squat to me, and I am a Linux user. Who
>>>>>>> cares what a non-Linux user thinks about Linux. Not me.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The way I see it, every Linux user here thinks that anyone who
>>>>>> doesn't blindly love Linux is a troll. I'm hoping you're not the
>>>>>> same way but you seem to want to be.
>>>>> 
>>>>> There is an on going argument. And who really thinks that, you or
>>>>> them?
>>>> 
>>>> What specifically are you asking?
>>> 
>>> Name the Linux users here that believe that those who don't *bindly*
>>> love Linux are trolls.
>>> 
>>> What's that list look like?
>>
>> - - Peter the Klöwn - - Wideload Porkster - - Chris AssStorm - -
>> hypochrisv - - wRonG
> 
> I don't know Wrong. I assume you mean William in #2. Peter is no clown.
> Chris and Chris are okay. I have said things less than *love* in each of
> their company and have not seen word one for my lack of blind love for
> Linux. That doesn't dove-tail with your view here.

Because we oppose the morons who come here only to troll, these said 
morons think we are against everyone who "doesn't use Linux." That's 
simply bullshit. I could care less someone if uses Windows or OSX -- but 
that's not what this is about, the iCultists and WinDrones aren't happy 
to live and let live -- they have to try to disrupt a Linux Advocacy 
newsgroup with their blatant bullshit, lies, and character assassination. 
Let's face it, someone who calls himself "Slime" isn't about the truth, 
he's about stirring things up. In other words, he's a troll, slightly 
more clever than "Snit" but still a worthless troll. 

-- 
Zero tolerance for iCultists and WinDrones

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#375119

On 6/10/2016 00:02 in comp.os.linux.advocacy, ronb posted:

> On Wed, 05 Oct 2016 13:20:21 -0400, Marek Novotny wrote:
>
>> On 2016-10-05, Silver Slimer <> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 2016-10-05 12:32 PM, Marek Novotny wrote:
>>>> On 2016-10-05, Silver Slimer <> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 2016-10-04 10:07 PM, Marek Novotny wrote:
>>>>>> On 2016-10-04, Silver Slimer <> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 2016-10-04 6:49 PM, Marek Novotny wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2016-10-04, Silver Slimer <> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 2016-10-04 12:52 PM, Marek Novotny wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-10-04, Silver Slimer <> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> I have to admit that I don't recall anything in any
>>>>>>>>>>> distribution of Linux which gives you a list of _every_ piece
>>>>>>>>>>> of software installed in one window. Synaptic technically could
>>>>>>>>>>> as far as I know but that didn't show you what programs were
>>>>>>>>>>> installed as much as which packages were installed.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> $ dpkg -l
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> The point DFS was making is that seeing such a list necessitates
>>>>>>>>> a command-line entry and that there is no GUI tool for such a
>>>>>>>>> task. By providing that line, you essentially prove him right
>>>>>>>>> (which is bad because he'll never shut up about it... since he's
>>>>>>>>> an asshole and all).
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I don't recall seeing any GUI tool which does the same thing
>>>>>>>>> myself.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> He's a database admin. He can't push that into a GUI database?
>>>>>>>> Since when? I don't care what DFS does. He's just a troll. Having
>>>>>>>> a GUI tool or not means squat to me, and I am a Linux user. Who
>>>>>>>> cares what a non-Linux user thinks about Linux. Not me.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The way I see it, every Linux user here thinks that anyone who
>>>>>>> doesn't blindly love Linux is a troll. I'm hoping you're not the
>>>>>>> same way but you seem to want to be.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> There is an on going argument. And who really thinks that, you or
>>>>>> them?
>>>>> 
>>>>> What specifically are you asking?
>>>> 
>>>> Name the Linux users here that believe that those who don't *bindly*
>>>> love Linux are trolls.
>>>> 
>>>> What's that list look like?
>>>
>>> - - Peter the Klöwn - - Wideload Porkster - - Chris AssStorm - -
>>> hypochrisv - - wRonG
>> 
>> I don't know Wrong. I assume you mean William in #2. Peter is no clown.
>> Chris and Chris are okay. I have said things less than *love* in each of
>> their company and have not seen word one for my lack of blind love for
>> Linux. That doesn't dove-tail with your view here.
>
> Because we oppose the morons who come here only to troll, these said 
> morons think we are against everyone who "doesn't use Linux." That's 
> simply bullshit. I could care less someone if uses Windows or OSX -- but 
> that's not what this is about, the iCultists and WinDrones aren't happy 
> to live and let live -- they have to try to disrupt a Linux Advocacy 
> newsgroup with their blatant bullshit, lies, and character assassination. 
> Let's face it, someone who calls himself "Slime" isn't about the truth, 
> he's about stirring things up. In other words, he's a troll, slightly 
> more clever than "Snit" but still a worthless troll. 

Exactly.

-- 
If your primary interest in computing is downloading music for your 
whatever, or playing games, you belong in the cattle pen Mr Gates built.

Windows is specifically designed for people who don't understand 
computing and don't want to be bothered.

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#375153

On 2016-10-05, ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 05 Oct 2016 13:20:21 -0400, Marek Novotny wrote:
>
>> On 2016-10-05, Silver Slimer <> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 2016-10-05 12:32 PM, Marek Novotny wrote:
>>>> On 2016-10-05, Silver Slimer <> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 2016-10-04 10:07 PM, Marek Novotny wrote:
>>>>>> On 2016-10-04, Silver Slimer <> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 2016-10-04 6:49 PM, Marek Novotny wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2016-10-04, Silver Slimer <> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 2016-10-04 12:52 PM, Marek Novotny wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-10-04, Silver Slimer <> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> I have to admit that I don't recall anything in any
>>>>>>>>>>> distribution of Linux which gives you a list of _every_ piece
>>>>>>>>>>> of software installed in one window. Synaptic technically could
>>>>>>>>>>> as far as I know but that didn't show you what programs were
>>>>>>>>>>> installed as much as which packages were installed.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> $ dpkg -l
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> The point DFS was making is that seeing such a list necessitates
>>>>>>>>> a command-line entry and that there is no GUI tool for such a
>>>>>>>>> task. By providing that line, you essentially prove him right
>>>>>>>>> (which is bad because he'll never shut up about it... since he's
>>>>>>>>> an asshole and all).
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I don't recall seeing any GUI tool which does the same thing
>>>>>>>>> myself.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> He's a database admin. He can't push that into a GUI database?
>>>>>>>> Since when? I don't care what DFS does. He's just a troll. Having
>>>>>>>> a GUI tool or not means squat to me, and I am a Linux user. Who
>>>>>>>> cares what a non-Linux user thinks about Linux. Not me.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The way I see it, every Linux user here thinks that anyone who
>>>>>>> doesn't blindly love Linux is a troll. I'm hoping you're not the
>>>>>>> same way but you seem to want to be.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> There is an on going argument. And who really thinks that, you or
>>>>>> them?
>>>>> 
>>>>> What specifically are you asking?
>>>> 
>>>> Name the Linux users here that believe that those who don't *bindly*
>>>> love Linux are trolls.
>>>> 
>>>> What's that list look like?
>>>
>>> - - Peter the Klöwn - - Wideload Porkster - - Chris AssStorm - -
>>> hypochrisv - - wRonG
>> 
>> I don't know Wrong. I assume you mean William in #2. Peter is no clown.
>> Chris and Chris are okay. I have said things less than *love* in each of
>> their company and have not seen word one for my lack of blind love for
>> Linux. That doesn't dove-tail with your view here.
>
> Because we oppose the morons who come here only to troll, these said 
> morons think we are against everyone who "doesn't use Linux." That's 
> simply bullshit. I could care less someone if uses Windows or OSX -- but 
> that's not what this is about, the iCultists and WinDrones aren't happy 
> to live and let live -- they have to try to disrupt a Linux Advocacy 
> newsgroup with their blatant bullshit, lies, and character assassination. 
> Let's face it, someone who calls himself "Slime" isn't about the truth, 
> he's about stirring things up. In other words, he's a troll, slightly 
> more clever than "Snit" but still a worthless troll. 

Ron, I can't imagine what you "did" to get on the hate list. You're
totally on the level as far as I am concerned. 

This could be a good group. It's got a good foundation from which to
build on. 

-- 
Marek Novotny
https://github.com/marek-novotny

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#375247

On 10/5/2016 9:42 PM, Marek Novotny wrote:
> On 2016-10-05, ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:


> Ron, I can't imagine what you "did" to get on the hate list. You're
> totally on the level as far as I am concerned.


He's a lying, blithering idiot.


* "Windows requires reboots constantly for almost every application
     installation."


* Jan 2010: "I've tried each release of Ubuntu since about 6.x -- but
     (I believe) at 8.10, I started having trouble with my Intel graphics
      chips."

* Jan 2010: "I don't have trouble with Linux."



* "Vista requires all new equipment and applications"

* "Microsoft had to buy Visio since they couldn't compete with it."

* "Once you get CentOS working it doesn't just stop like Windows does"


And his crowning achievement!

* "Apple's empire is falling apart, bit by bit." (Apr 2012)





> This could be a good group.

It already is good.  Sometimes very good.

Variety of topics, plenty of technical talk, some good flaming and 
insults.



> It's got a good foundation from which to build on.

Spitballs and drool isn't much of a foundation.

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#375269

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On 2016-10-06 10:42 AM, DFS wrote:
> On 10/5/2016 9:42 PM, Marek Novotny wrote:
>> On 2016-10-05, ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>> Ron, I can't imagine what you "did" to get on the hate list.
>> You're totally on the level as far as I am concerned.
> 
> 
> He's a lying, blithering idiot.
> 
> 
> * "Windows requires reboots constantly for almost every
> application installation."

Not entirely incorrect for the Windows 9x era applications to be
honest. That was a mess of grand proportions.

> * Jan 2010: "I've tried each release of Ubuntu since about 6.x --
> but (I believe) at 8.10, I started having trouble with my Intel
> graphics chips."
> 
> * Jan 2010: "I don't have trouble with Linux."

I can't imagine anyone having trouble with Intel in Linux since
open-source drivers are provided by the company and included in the
kernel.

> * "Vista requires all new equipment and applications"

It was slow but ran well on an Athlon XP 3000+, 3500+ and the Athlon
XP 4800+ I replaced them with. That was with 2GB of RAM as well.

> * "Microsoft had to buy Visio since they couldn't compete with
> it."
> 
> * "Once you get CentOS working it doesn't just stop like Windows
> does"
> 
> 
> And his crowning achievement!
> 
> * "Apple's empire is falling apart, bit by bit." (Apr 2012)

I'm sure the shareholders in particular are crying about it.

< snip >

- -- 
Silver Slimer
Islam is a disease
Gab.AI: @silverslimer
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#375185

Marek Novotny wrote:

> slime wrote:
>>
>> Marek Novotny wrote:
>>> 
>>> Name the Linux users here that believe that those who don't
>>> *bindly* love Linux are trolls.
>>> 
>>> What's that list look like?

What's the point of asking?  All you can expect is a made-up nonsense
list.

>> - - Peter the Klöwn
>> - - Wideload Porkster
>> - - Chris AssStorm
>> - - hypochrisv
>> - - wRonG

See?

>I don't know Wrong. I assume you mean William in #2. Peter is no clown.
>Chris and Chris are okay. I have said things less than *love* in each of
>their company and have not seen word one for my lack of blind love for
>Linux. That doesn't dove-tail with your view here. 

That's because he's lying.  Obviously.  

It's the same "FOSS advocates are radicals who cannot accept anyone
who is not also a radical" lie that shitty trolls have been spewing
since this group was new.

-- 
"'Linux shit' on google.ca = About 5,460,000 results (0.30 seconds)"
-  "Slimer"

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#375201

On 2016-10-06, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> Marek Novotny wrote:
>
>> slime wrote:
>>>
>>> Marek Novotny wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Name the Linux users here that believe that those who don't
>>>> *bindly* love Linux are trolls.
>>>> 
>>>> What's that list look like?
>
> What's the point of asking?  All you can expect is a made-up nonsense
> list.
>
>>> - - Peter the Klöwn
>>> - - Wideload Porkster
>>> - - Chris AssStorm
>>> - - hypochrisv
>>> - - wRonG
>
> See?
>
>>I don't know Wrong. I assume you mean William in #2. Peter is no clown.
>>Chris and Chris are okay. I have said things less than *love* in each of
>>their company and have not seen word one for my lack of blind love for
>>Linux. That doesn't dove-tail with your view here. 
>
> That's because he's lying.  Obviously.  
>
> It's the same "FOSS advocates are radicals who cannot accept anyone
> who is not also a radical" lie that shitty trolls have been spewing
> since this group was new.

They'll be thanking FOSS soon enough. It's good to have something else
out there that is completely capable. I can't imagine this industry
being completely controlled by the likes of Apple and Microsoft. Both of
these guys are completely off the rails. Who is actually pleased with
MacOS at this point? I know of no one. The Mac users I know no longer
even want to update. 

I don't see anything in Windows 10 to like either. I guess the Windows
users he can say why it is a good idea to upgrade to 10 vs staying with
7. 

Where does anyone go when these two industry guards produce garbage you
no longer want? I miss the old days honestly. We had so much to choose
from and look forward to. I'd love to see some new ideas.... New
thinking. Something else. 

-- 
Marek Novotny
https://github.com/marek-novotny

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#375276

On 10/06/2016 07:30 AM, Marek Novotny wrote:
>
>> It's the same "FOSS advocates are radicals who cannot accept anyone
>> who is not also a radical" lie that shitty trolls have been spewing
>> since this group was new.
> 
> They'll be thanking FOSS soon enough. It's good to have something else
> out there that is completely capable. I can't imagine this industry
> being completely controlled by the likes of Apple and Microsoft. Both of
> these guys are completely off the rails. Who is actually pleased with
> MacOS at this point? I know of no one. The Mac users I know no longer
> even want to update. 
> 
> I don't see anything in Windows 10 to like either. I guess the Windows
> users he can say why it is a good idea to upgrade to 10 vs staying with
> 7. 
> 
> Where does anyone go when these two industry guards produce garbage you
> no longer want? I miss the old days honestly. We had so much to choose
> from and look forward to. I'd love to see some new ideas.... New
> thinking. Something else. 
> 

Too bad some entrepenuer would produce something akin to an Atari for
home use that is 64-bit with excellent graphics.  It's getting a bit
complicated these days to write a game on these multitasking operating
systems.  You should see all the hoops one has to go thru to get a game
running with DirectX.  Massive amount of complicated coding.
I'd rather see a hardware oriented approach like the Amiga had or the
Commodore 64.
That would liven things up a bit.

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#375300

On 2016-10-06, GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> wrote:
> On 10/06/2016 07:30 AM, Marek Novotny wrote:
>>
>>> It's the same "FOSS advocates are radicals who cannot accept anyone
>>> who is not also a radical" lie that shitty trolls have been spewing
>>> since this group was new.
>> 
>> They'll be thanking FOSS soon enough. It's good to have something else
>> out there that is completely capable. I can't imagine this industry
>> being completely controlled by the likes of Apple and Microsoft. Both of
>> these guys are completely off the rails. Who is actually pleased with
>> MacOS at this point? I know of no one. The Mac users I know no longer
>> even want to update. 
>> 
>> I don't see anything in Windows 10 to like either. I guess the Windows
>> users he can say why it is a good idea to upgrade to 10 vs staying with
>> 7. 
>> 
>> Where does anyone go when these two industry guards produce garbage you
>> no longer want? I miss the old days honestly. We had so much to choose
>> from and look forward to. I'd love to see some new ideas.... New
>> thinking. Something else. 
>> 
>
> Too bad some entrepenuer would produce something akin to an Atari for
> home use that is 64-bit with excellent graphics.  It's getting a bit
> complicated these days to write a game on these multitasking operating
> systems.  You should see all the hoops one has to go thru to get a game
> running with DirectX.  Massive amount of complicated coding.
> I'd rather see a hardware oriented approach like the Amiga had or the
> Commodore 64.
> That would liven things up a bit.

It's all progress I guess. I remember when I had Windows and a Matrox
card. And then someone came out with a card you added to your existing
card. You have them both plugged in. So the Matrox plugged into the
Monster Card and the Monster card was plugged into the CRT and with that
I got OpenGL and played GLQuake. 

I remember there being some DirectX game at one point around the Win95
era. And it too gave us better graphics, seemingly through software and
it worked. It was cool. 

I'm thinking about getting a PlayStation with that VR thing. I see they
have a battle Zone type game for it. I'd like to try VR but I don't want
to run Windows with a Rift to do it. 

-- 
Marek Novotny
https://github.com/marek-novotny

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#375024

On Wed, 05 Oct 2016 12:32:42 -0400, Marek Novotny wrote:

> Name the Linux users here that believe that those who don't *bindly*
> love Linux are trolls.
> 
> What's that list look like?

I don't know what it looks like, but it "sounds" like crickets. 

-- 
Zero tolerance for iCultists and WinDrones

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#374873

On Tue, 4 Oct 2016 11:54:31 -0400
Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> wrote:

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> 
> On 2016-10-04 10:34 AM, DFS wrote:
> > On 10/4/2016 8:46 AM, chrisv wrote:
> >   
> >> "Having to use a Terminal and arcane command to see what
> >> software you've installed surely is pathetic.  As the saying
> >> goes: This!  Is! Linux!"  -  DumFSck, putting his ignorance on
> >> display  
> > 
> > 
> > So correct my "ignorance", turd.  Show me how to list the software 
> > you've installed on Linux without an arcane command in a terminal.
> > 
> > Or run away like you always do.
> > 
> > 
> > Meanwhile: Windows | Control Panel | Programs and Features
> > 
> > MS is doomed.  
> 
> I have to admit that I don't recall anything in any distribution of
> Linux which gives you a list of _every_ piece of software installed in
> one window. Synaptic technically could as far as I know but that
> didn't show you what programs were installed as much as which packages
> were installed.
> 
Packages are software, there is no distinction. On Manjaro, there is
octopi. It has view all/installed/not installed and by repo.

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#374876

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On 2016-10-04 7:35 PM, Melzzzzz wrote:
> On Tue, 4 Oct 2016 11:54:31 -0400 Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> wrote:
> 
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>> On 2016-10-04 10:34 AM, DFS wrote:
>>> On 10/4/2016 8:46 AM, chrisv wrote:
>>> 
>>>> "Having to use a Terminal and arcane command to see what 
>>>> software you've installed surely is pathetic.  As the saying 
>>>> goes: This!  Is! Linux!"  -  DumFSck, putting his ignorance
>>>> on display
>>> 
>>> 
>>> So correct my "ignorance", turd.  Show me how to list the
>>> software you've installed on Linux without an arcane command in
>>> a terminal.
>>> 
>>> Or run away like you always do.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Meanwhile: Windows | Control Panel | Programs and Features
>>> 
>>> MS is doomed.
>> 
>> I have to admit that I don't recall anything in any distribution
>> of Linux which gives you a list of _every_ piece of software
>> installed in one window. Synaptic technically could as far as I
>> know but that didn't show you what programs were installed as
>> much as which packages were installed.
>> 
> Packages are software, there is no distinction. On Manjaro, there
> is octopi. It has view all/installed/not installed and by repo.

The problem is that while packages are indeed code, they are not
usable software by themselves and generally a part of one or many
problems which utilize them. What DFS is looking for is a GUI program
which would list all _usable_ programs, not all of the components of
one. He had a good point no matter how much people might dislike his
delivery.


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#374884

On Tue, 4 Oct 2016 19:38:50 -0400
Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> wrote:

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> On 2016-10-04 7:35 PM, Melzzzzz wrote:
> > On Tue, 4 Oct 2016 11:54:31 -0400 Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> wrote:
> >   
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> >> On 2016-10-04 10:34 AM, DFS wrote:  
> >>> On 10/4/2016 8:46 AM, chrisv wrote:
> >>>   
> >>>> "Having to use a Terminal and arcane command to see what 
> >>>> software you've installed surely is pathetic.  As the saying 
> >>>> goes: This!  Is! Linux!"  -  DumFSck, putting his ignorance
> >>>> on display  
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> So correct my "ignorance", turd.  Show me how to list the
> >>> software you've installed on Linux without an arcane command in
> >>> a terminal.
> >>> 
> >>> Or run away like you always do.
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Meanwhile: Windows | Control Panel | Programs and Features
> >>> 
> >>> MS is doomed.  
> >> 
> >> I have to admit that I don't recall anything in any distribution
> >> of Linux which gives you a list of _every_ piece of software
> >> installed in one window. Synaptic technically could as far as I
> >> know but that didn't show you what programs were installed as
> >> much as which packages were installed.
> >>   
> > Packages are software, there is no distinction. On Manjaro, there
> > is octopi. It has view all/installed/not installed and by repo.  
> 
> The problem is that while packages are indeed code, they are not
> usable software by themselves and generally a part of one or many
> problems which utilize them. What DFS is looking for is a GUI program
> which would list all _usable_ programs, not all of the components of
> one. He had a good point no matter how much people might dislike his
> delivery.
> 
> 
He does not have good point. One wants to list packages in order to
remove them, not to install them. And yes if you want to remove certain
program it is one entry , not several...

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#374731

On 2016-10-04, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> Marek Novotny wrote:
>
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> You're really going to start on-topic threads, in here, and encrypt
> them?
>
> I can understand encrypting discussions about the thing...

Yes, most of my posts, encrypted, were on topic. Most of them were about
testing encryption such as dealing with the manual encryption I employed
between bash, vim and gnupg. We're not talking about Snit. I don't care
to talk about Snit. The idea is to talk on topic and avoid the thread
being highjacked by Snit or a Snit sock because they can't read the
thread thus cannot comment on it or troll the users over what they say. 

You're welcome to read them. You don't have to participate. Just make
public key and I'll add your public key to those able to decrypt what I
post. You don't have to reply to them at all. But at least you'll see
what is being said. You'll see this isn't a discussion about Snit. In
fact that's what we'r trying to accomplish. To rid the discussion about
Snit. He will not be able to copy your text and then mess with it and
claim you said something you didn't. He will not reply to you. He will
not know what you are talking about. He'll just be shut out entirely. 

While this might not be the best way to accomplish it, I do believe this
little experiment has already paid off. It might change the way public
groups operate. Maybe the next public forum will function in such a ways
where you have to grant permission for others to read what you write.
Thus you can operate in public, but interact with only those you want. 

We might have to sit down and rethink the whole forum paradigm in the
wake of trolls. Moderators in my opinion don't work either. Control over
who reads what should be in the hands of the author of the post. 

-- 
Marek Novotny
https://github.com/marek-novotny

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