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| Started by | Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> |
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| First post | 2015-03-25 19:01 +0100 |
| Last post | 2015-03-26 18:49 -0700 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 207 — 21 participants |
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GNOME 3.16 Released! Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-03-25 19:01 +0100
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-03-25 15:51 -0400
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-25 15:03 -0500
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-25 17:15 -0400
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-03-25 22:01 +0000
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-03-25 19:53 -0600
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-03-26 00:11 +0100
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-03-25 19:54 -0600
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-03-26 03:01 +0100
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-25 23:21 -0600
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-03-26 11:56 -0500
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-26 14:13 -0600
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-03-25 23:54 +0100
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Tomas <tgif9fri@numo.net> - 2015-03-25 16:01 -0400
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Donald Miller <donaldmiller955@mail.com> - 2015-03-25 16:37 -0400
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-25 17:27 -0400
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-03-25 19:56 -0600
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-25 17:15 -0400
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-03-26 00:09 +0100
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-03-25 19:18 -0400
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-03-26 00:24 +0100
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-03-25 19:30 -0400
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-03-25 19:58 -0600
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-03-26 03:02 +0100
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-25 23:19 -0600
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-03-25 20:15 -0400
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-03-25 19:55 -0600
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-03-25 17:00 -0400
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-25 17:32 -0400
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-03-25 22:43 +0100
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-03-25 21:56 +0000
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-03-25 23:09 +0100
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-03-25 23:23 +0000
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-03-26 00:31 +0100
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-03-25 23:36 +0000
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-03-25 19:39 -0400
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-03-25 20:02 -0600
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-25 18:12 -0400
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-03-25 23:22 +0100
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-25 18:36 -0400
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-03-25 23:15 +0000
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-03-25 20:04 -0400
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-03-25 20:04 -0600
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-25 18:08 -0400
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-03-25 23:14 +0100
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-25 18:30 -0400
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-03-25 23:35 +0100
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-25 18:40 -0400
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-03-25 23:20 +0000
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-03-25 20:10 -0600
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-03-26 00:24 +0100
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-03-25 23:25 +0000
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-03-25 20:10 -0600
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-25 22:27 -0400
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-03-26 03:38 +0100
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-03-26 04:30 +0000
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-26 09:02 -0400
Windows games, sound routing, and all that jazzercize vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-03-28 16:29 -0700
Re: Windows games, sound routing, and all that jazzercize Donald Miller <donaldmiller955@mail.com> - 2015-03-28 19:37 -0400
Re: Windows games, sound routing, and all that jazzercize vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-03-28 18:51 -0700
Re: Windows games, sound routing, and all that jazzercize Donald Miller <donaldmiller955@mail.com> - 2015-03-28 22:09 -0400
Re: Windows games, sound routing, and all that jazzercize "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-03-29 09:33 -0400
Re: Windows games, sound routing, and all that jazzercize Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-29 09:58 -0400
Re: Windows games, sound routing, and all that jazzercize Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-28 22:38 -0400
Re: Windows games, sound routing, and all that jazzercize Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-03-29 06:56 -0400
Re: Windows games, sound routing, and all that jazzercize owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-29 13:11 +0000
Re: Windows games, sound routing, and all that jazzercize GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-29 16:18 -0600
Re: Windows games, sound routing, and all that jazzercize Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-29 18:50 -0400
Re: Windows games, sound routing, and all that jazzercize GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-30 15:40 -0600
For Linux-hating trolls: bite a little harder, why don't you? (was Re: Windows games, sound routing, and all that jazzercize vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-03-31 15:41 -0700
Re: Windows games, sound routing, and all that jazzercize Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-03-28 19:48 -0400
Re: Windows games, sound routing, and all that jazzercize DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-03-28 22:24 -0400
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-26 07:10 -0500
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-03-26 13:22 +0100
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-26 09:28 -0400
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-26 14:12 -0600
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-03-26 12:07 -0500
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-26 17:30 -0400
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-03-26 23:09 +0100
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-26 20:43 -0400
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-03-26 19:18 -0600
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-26 22:29 -0400
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-03-26 19:16 -0600
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-26 19:11 -0700
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-03-28 10:55 -0400
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-28 11:52 -0400
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-03-28 13:06 -0400
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-28 14:20 -0400
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-28 19:21 -0600
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-03-28 17:11 +0100
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-03-28 17:22 +0100
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-28 11:15 -0600
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-28 14:15 -0400
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-28 14:13 -0400
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-03-26 19:14 -0600
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-03-25 19:58 -0400
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-03-25 20:12 -0600
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-25 22:50 -0400
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-25 23:18 -0600
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-03-25 20:10 -0600
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-03-26 03:23 +0100
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-25 23:15 -0600
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-03-26 05:57 -0400
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-03-25 20:13 -0400
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-03-25 20:13 -0600
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-25 22:40 -0400
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-03-25 19:25 -0500
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-03-25 20:42 -0400
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-03-25 20:16 -0600
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-03-25 20:16 -0600
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-03-25 20:09 -0600
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-03-25 23:19 +0000
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-03-26 00:25 +0100
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-03-25 20:07 -0600
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-03-26 00:15 +0100
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-03-25 20:14 -0400
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-03-25 20:18 -0600
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-26 07:14 -0500
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-26 14:11 -0600
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-03-25 20:17 -0600
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-03-26 03:27 +0100
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-25 23:12 -0600
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-03-26 12:00 -0500
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-26 14:10 -0600
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2015-03-26 09:24 +0000
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-03-26 06:10 -0400
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-03-26 11:40 +0100
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-26 09:09 -0400
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-03-26 14:41 +0100
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-03-26 12:06 -0500
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-03-26 20:12 +0100
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-26 14:44 -0500
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-03-26 22:07 +0100
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-26 17:54 -0400
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-26 14:09 -0600
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-26 17:19 -0400
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-26 14:08 -0600
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-26 14:08 -0600
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-25 19:22 -0700
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-25 22:58 -0400
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-26 08:41 -0700
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-26 17:25 -0400
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-26 19:17 -0700
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-03-25 20:01 -0400
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-03-25 20:19 -0600
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-03-26 03:32 +0100
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-03-26 04:30 +0000
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-25 21:35 -0700
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Mel <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-03-26 10:53 +0100
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-03-26 09:59 +0000
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-26 07:34 -0500
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-03-26 09:29 -0400
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-26 14:06 -0600
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-26 21:42 +0000
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-27 13:53 -0600
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-26 14:06 -0600
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-03-26 08:58 -0400
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-26 09:07 -0400
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-26 14:05 -0600
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-03-26 09:59 -0400
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-03-26 06:03 -0400
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-03-26 06:00 -0400
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-26 14:04 -0600
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-25 22:52 -0400
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-25 22:32 -0400
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-03-25 23:26 -0400
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-03-25 20:00 -0600
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-26 07:19 -0500
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-03-26 09:14 -0400
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-03-26 14:38 +0100
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-26 08:57 -0500
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-03-26 11:14 -0400
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-03-26 16:35 +0100
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-26 11:08 -0500
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-26 14:04 -0600
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-26 17:49 -0400
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-26 14:03 -0600
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-03-27 08:20 -0400
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-03-27 09:24 -0400
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-27 13:51 -0600
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-03-26 12:55 -0400
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-26 10:49 -0500
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-26 11:33 -0500
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-26 13:59 -0600
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-26 17:27 -0400
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-03-26 10:09 -0400
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-26 13:59 -0600
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-26 13:58 -0600
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-03-26 10:05 -0400
Why quote @chrisv ? ! Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-03-26 19:27 -0700
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-03-26 00:13 +0100
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-03-25 23:13 +0000
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-03-25 19:20 -0400
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-03-26 00:35 +0100
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-03-25 19:49 -0400
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-03-25 20:22 -0400
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-03-25 20:22 -0600
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-26 07:26 -0500
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-03-25 20:21 -0600
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-03-25 20:17 -0400
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-03-25 20:22 -0600
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-25 22:59 -0400
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-03-26 09:32 -0400
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-26 17:16 -0400
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-03-25 23:32 -0400
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-03-26 09:47 -0400
Re: GNOME 3.16 Released! John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-03-26 18:49 -0700
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| From | ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-03-25 23:15 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mevfi4$ovd$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #286026 |
On Wed, 25 Mar 2015 23:22:01 +0100, Peter Köhlmann wrote:
> Slimer wrote:
>
>> On 2015-03-25 5:56 PM, ronb wrote:
>>> On Wed, 25 Mar 2015 22:43:09 +0100, Peter Köhlmann wrote:
>>>
>>>> Slimer wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2015-03-25 5:00 PM, Ezekiel wrote:
>>>>>> "Melzzzzz" <mel@zzzzz.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:20150325190117.6ff30af2@maxa-pc...
>>>>>>> " The GNOME project has released GNOME 3.16, the latest version of
>>>>>>> GNOME 3. The new version is the result of six months work, and
>>>>>>> includes 33,525 changes by 1043 authors."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yeeeeey!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.gnome.org/news/2015/03/gnome-3-16-released-2/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> <quote>
>>>>>> History
>>>>>>
>>>>>> GNOME was started in August 1997 by Miguel de Icaza and Federico
>>>>>> Mena as a free software project to develop a desktop environment
>>>>>> and applications for it </quote>
>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Miguel was speaking his mind once and said something that wasn't
>>>>>> flattering about Linux. So posers like Ahlstrom who have never
>>>>>> contributed anything to free software now consider him a traitor.
>>>>>
>>>>> If I remember correctly, Miguel de Icaza eventually moved on to Mac
>>>>> OS X and abandoned Gnome and Linux entirely. Actually, let's see
>>>>> what Wikipedia has to say:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
>>> Miguel_de_Icaza#Preference_for_Mac_OS_X_over_Linux>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Preference for Mac OS X over Linux
>>>>>
>>>>> In August 2012, de Icaza criticized the Linux desktop as "killed by
>>>>> Apple". De Icaza specifically criticized a generally
>>>>> developer-focused culture, lack of backward compatibility and
>>>>> fragmentation among the various Linux distributions.[18][19] In
>>>>> March 2013, de Icaza announced on his personal blog that he
>>>>> regularly used Mac OS X instead of Linux for desktop computing.[20]"
>>>>>
>>>>> You know your operating system sucks when even one of its most
>>>>> important developers considers it to be unusable and adopts OS X
>>>>> instead.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Which is really hilarious if he cites "lack of backward compatibility
>>>> and fragmentation" is his reasons. Because OSX is of all the OS the
>>>> worst one in these regards. By a very long shot. Even windows is far
>>>> better in these things. Not to mention linux, which is usually far
>>>> better than windows in backwards compatibility
>>>
>>> Basically Icaza's issue was that he wanted to lead Linux a certain way
>>> and no one (or few) wanted to follow him. He was kind of the "Snit" of
>>> the Linux world. Well, a "Snit" with much more intelligence who did
>>> something other than troll the Usenet 24/7.
>>
>> He wanted Linux to be simpler to use and provide a Mac-like experience
>
> No. He wanted nothing of that. He wanted C# (a MS language) to be able
> to run on linux too. He achieved that (to a point. But not nearly good
> enough to have a viable option).
> This had nothing to do with "ease of use". And even less with a
> "Mac-like experience"
>
> Your claimed "expertise" with computing history is not showing off at
> all,
> Snit Slimeball
He just makes it up as he goes, doesn't he?
--
When Microsoft makes a product that doesn't suck ...
it'll be a vacuum cleaner
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| From | Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-03-25 20:04 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mevic5$3hr$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #286043 |
ronb wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
> On Wed, 25 Mar 2015 23:22:01 +0100, Peter Köhlmann wrote:
>
>> Slimer wrote:
>> Snit Slimeball
>
> He just makes it up as he goes, doesn't he?
Yup. No LIE too big for "sLIEmore". A repulsive fellow.
--
DOS: n., A small annoying boot virus that causes random spontaneous system
crashes, usually just before saving a massive project. Easily cured by
UNIX. See also MS-DOS, IBM-DOS, DR-DOS.
-- David Vicker's .plan
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| From | GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-03-25 20:04 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <CeudnXwgjZjS9I7InZ2dnUU7-K2dnZ2d@bresnan.com> |
| In reply to | #286043 |
On 03/25/15 17:15, ronb wrote: > On Wed, 25 Mar 2015 23:22:01 +0100, Peter Köhlmann wrote: > >> Slimer wrote: >> >>> On 2015-03-25 5:56 PM, ronb wrote: >>>> On Wed, 25 Mar 2015 22:43:09 +0100, Peter Köhlmann wrote: >>>> >>>>> Slimer wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 2015-03-25 5:00 PM, Ezekiel wrote: >>>>>>> "Melzzzzz"<mel@zzzzz.com> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:20150325190117.6ff30af2@maxa-pc... >>>>>>>> " The GNOME project has released GNOME 3.16, the latest version of >>>>>>>> GNOME 3. The new version is the result of six months work, and >>>>>>>> includes 33,525 changes by 1043 authors." >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yeeeeey! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://www.gnome.org/news/2015/03/gnome-3-16-released-2/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> <quote> >>>>>>> History >>>>>>> >>>>>>> GNOME was started in August 1997 by Miguel de Icaza and Federico >>>>>>> Mena as a free software project to develop a desktop environment >>>>>>> and applications for it</quote> >>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Miguel was speaking his mind once and said something that wasn't >>>>>>> flattering about Linux. So posers like Ahlstrom who have never >>>>>>> contributed anything to free software now consider him a traitor. >>>>>> >>>>>> If I remember correctly, Miguel de Icaza eventually moved on to Mac >>>>>> OS X and abandoned Gnome and Linux entirely. Actually, let's see >>>>>> what Wikipedia has to say: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ >>>> Miguel_de_Icaza#Preference_for_Mac_OS_X_over_Linux> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Preference for Mac OS X over Linux >>>>>> >>>>>> In August 2012, de Icaza criticized the Linux desktop as "killed by >>>>>> Apple". De Icaza specifically criticized a generally >>>>>> developer-focused culture, lack of backward compatibility and >>>>>> fragmentation among the various Linux distributions.[18][19] In >>>>>> March 2013, de Icaza announced on his personal blog that he >>>>>> regularly used Mac OS X instead of Linux for desktop computing.[20]" >>>>>> >>>>>> You know your operating system sucks when even one of its most >>>>>> important developers considers it to be unusable and adopts OS X >>>>>> instead. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Which is really hilarious if he cites "lack of backward compatibility >>>>> and fragmentation" is his reasons. Because OSX is of all the OS the >>>>> worst one in these regards. By a very long shot. Even windows is far >>>>> better in these things. Not to mention linux, which is usually far >>>>> better than windows in backwards compatibility >>>> >>>> Basically Icaza's issue was that he wanted to lead Linux a certain way >>>> and no one (or few) wanted to follow him. He was kind of the "Snit" of >>>> the Linux world. Well, a "Snit" with much more intelligence who did >>>> something other than troll the Usenet 24/7. >>> >>> He wanted Linux to be simpler to use and provide a Mac-like experience >> >> No. He wanted nothing of that. He wanted C# (a MS language) to be able >> to run on linux too. He achieved that (to a point. But not nearly good >> enough to have a viable option). >> This had nothing to do with "ease of use". And even less with a >> "Mac-like experience" >> >> Your claimed "expertise" with computing history is not showing off at >> all, >> Snit Slimeball > > He just makes it up as he goes, doesn't he? > Much like your drivel, eh? -- When told the reason for daylight savings time the Old Indian said, "Only the government would believe that you could cut a foot off the top of a blanket, sew it to the bottom, and have a longer blanket."
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| From | Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-03-25 18:08 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mevbj9$3bv$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #286003 |
On 2015-03-25 5:43 PM, Peter Köhlmann wrote: > Slimer wrote: > >> On 2015-03-25 5:00 PM, Ezekiel wrote: >>> "Melzzzzz" <mel@zzzzz.com> wrote in message >>> news:20150325190117.6ff30af2@maxa-pc... >>>> " The GNOME project has released GNOME 3.16, the latest version of GNOME >>>> 3. The new version is the result of six months work, and includes >>>> 33,525 changes by 1043 authors." >>>> >>>> Yeeeeey! >>>> >>>> >>>> https://www.gnome.org/news/2015/03/gnome-3-16-released-2/ >>>> >>>> >>> >>> <quote> >>> History >>> >>> GNOME was started in August 1997 by Miguel de Icaza and Federico Mena as >>> a free software project to develop a desktop environment and applications >>> for it >>> </quote> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME >>> >>> >>> Miguel was speaking his mind once and said something that wasn't >>> flattering >>> about Linux. So posers like Ahlstrom who have never contributed anything >>> to free software now consider him a traitor. >> >> If I remember correctly, Miguel de Icaza eventually moved on to Mac OS X >> and abandoned Gnome and Linux entirely. Actually, let's see what >> Wikipedia has to say: >> >> > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miguel_de_Icaza#Preference_for_Mac_OS_X_over_Linux> >> >> "Preference for Mac OS X over Linux >> >> In August 2012, de Icaza criticized the Linux desktop as "killed by >> Apple". De Icaza specifically criticized a generally developer-focused >> culture, lack of backward compatibility and fragmentation among the >> various Linux distributions.[18][19] In March 2013, de Icaza announced >> on his personal blog that he regularly used Mac OS X instead of Linux >> for desktop computing.[20]" >> >> You know your operating system sucks when even one of its most important >> developers considers it to be unusable and adopts OS X instead. >> > > Which is really hilarious if he cites "lack of backward compatibility and > fragmentation" is his reasons. Because OSX is of all the OS the worst one in > these regards. By a very long shot. Even windows is far better in these > things. Not to mention linux, which is usually far better than windows in > backwards compatibility I agree with you and lack of backward compatibility is one of the many reasons I dislike anything Apple produces. Linux is only slightly better than OS X though: it's laughable how many applications will simply cease to work correctly because you updated one of the many packages it referred to. -- Slimer OpenMedia, GreenPeace Supporter & SPCA Paw Partner Encrypt.
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| From | Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-03-25 23:14 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <mevbu5$4hd$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #286017 |
Slimer wrote: > On 2015-03-25 5:43 PM, Peter Köhlmann wrote: >> Slimer wrote: >> >>> On 2015-03-25 5:00 PM, Ezekiel wrote: >>>> "Melzzzzz" <mel@zzzzz.com> wrote in message >>>> news:20150325190117.6ff30af2@maxa-pc... >>>>> " The GNOME project has released GNOME 3.16, the latest version of >>>>> GNOME 3. The new version is the result of six months work, and >>>>> includes 33,525 changes by 1043 authors." >>>>> >>>>> Yeeeeey! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> https://www.gnome.org/news/2015/03/gnome-3-16-released-2/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> <quote> >>>> History >>>> >>>> GNOME was started in August 1997 by Miguel de Icaza and Federico Mena >>>> as a free software project to develop a desktop environment and >>>> applications for it >>>> </quote> >>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME >>>> >>>> >>>> Miguel was speaking his mind once and said something that wasn't >>>> flattering >>>> about Linux. So posers like Ahlstrom who have never contributed >>>> anything to free software now consider him a traitor. >>> >>> If I remember correctly, Miguel de Icaza eventually moved on to Mac OS X >>> and abandoned Gnome and Linux entirely. Actually, let's see what >>> Wikipedia has to say: >>> >>> >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miguel_de_Icaza#Preference_for_Mac_OS_X_over_Linux> >>> >>> "Preference for Mac OS X over Linux >>> >>> In August 2012, de Icaza criticized the Linux desktop as "killed by >>> Apple". De Icaza specifically criticized a generally developer-focused >>> culture, lack of backward compatibility and fragmentation among the >>> various Linux distributions.[18][19] In March 2013, de Icaza announced >>> on his personal blog that he regularly used Mac OS X instead of Linux >>> for desktop computing.[20]" >>> >>> You know your operating system sucks when even one of its most important >>> developers considers it to be unusable and adopts OS X instead. >>> >> >> Which is really hilarious if he cites "lack of backward compatibility and >> fragmentation" is his reasons. Because OSX is of all the OS the worst one >> in >> these regards. By a very long shot. Even windows is far better in these >> things. Not to mention linux, which is usually far better than windows in >> backwards compatibility > > I agree with you and lack of backward compatibility is one of the many > reasons I dislike anything Apple produces. Linux is only slightly better > than OS X though: it's laughable how many applications will simply cease > to work correctly because you updated one of the many packages it > referred to Bullshit. Especially in linux it is extremely easy to provide several libraries concurrently. Much easier than in both windows and OSX
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| From | Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-03-25 18:30 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mevct1$9k2$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #286024 |
On 2015-03-25 6:14 PM, Peter Köhlmann wrote: > Slimer wrote: > >> On 2015-03-25 5:43 PM, Peter Köhlmann wrote: >>> Slimer wrote: >>> >>>> On 2015-03-25 5:00 PM, Ezekiel wrote: >>>>> "Melzzzzz" <mel@zzzzz.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:20150325190117.6ff30af2@maxa-pc... >>>>>> " The GNOME project has released GNOME 3.16, the latest version of >>>>>> GNOME 3. The new version is the result of six months work, and >>>>>> includes 33,525 changes by 1043 authors." >>>>>> >>>>>> Yeeeeey! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.gnome.org/news/2015/03/gnome-3-16-released-2/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <quote> >>>>> History >>>>> >>>>> GNOME was started in August 1997 by Miguel de Icaza and Federico Mena >>>>> as a free software project to develop a desktop environment and >>>>> applications for it >>>>> </quote> >>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Miguel was speaking his mind once and said something that wasn't >>>>> flattering >>>>> about Linux. So posers like Ahlstrom who have never contributed >>>>> anything to free software now consider him a traitor. >>>> >>>> If I remember correctly, Miguel de Icaza eventually moved on to Mac OS X >>>> and abandoned Gnome and Linux entirely. Actually, let's see what >>>> Wikipedia has to say: >>>> >>>> >>> > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miguel_de_Icaza#Preference_for_Mac_OS_X_over_Linux> >>>> >>>> "Preference for Mac OS X over Linux >>>> >>>> In August 2012, de Icaza criticized the Linux desktop as "killed by >>>> Apple". De Icaza specifically criticized a generally developer-focused >>>> culture, lack of backward compatibility and fragmentation among the >>>> various Linux distributions.[18][19] In March 2013, de Icaza announced >>>> on his personal blog that he regularly used Mac OS X instead of Linux >>>> for desktop computing.[20]" >>>> >>>> You know your operating system sucks when even one of its most important >>>> developers considers it to be unusable and adopts OS X instead. >>>> >>> >>> Which is really hilarious if he cites "lack of backward compatibility and >>> fragmentation" is his reasons. Because OSX is of all the OS the worst one >>> in >>> these regards. By a very long shot. Even windows is far better in these >>> things. Not to mention linux, which is usually far better than windows in >>> backwards compatibility >> >> I agree with you and lack of backward compatibility is one of the many >> reasons I dislike anything Apple produces. Linux is only slightly better >> than OS X though: it's laughable how many applications will simply cease >> to work correctly because you updated one of the many packages it >> referred to > > Bullshit. Especially in linux it is extremely easy to provide several > libraries concurrently. Much easier than in both windows and OSX It's _so_ hard in Windows that I can install software from the 90s or the early 2000s and know that it will work whereas I have to wrestle with dependencies in Linux. You clearly haven't used Windows since the mid-90s and just make shit up as you go along. You can even run Windows 3.1 apps in Windows 8 fairly easily. Hell, you can use the fucking MS-DOS Executive in Windows 8. You can't do that in Linux with apps from that era. Face it, Klöwn, Windows is better in every imaginable way. -- Slimer OpenMedia, GreenPeace Supporter & SPCA Paw Partner Encrypt.
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| From | Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-03-25 23:35 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <mevd6g$98v$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #286028 |
Slimer wrote: > On 2015-03-25 6:14 PM, Peter Köhlmann wrote: >> Slimer wrote: >> >>> On 2015-03-25 5:43 PM, Peter Köhlmann wrote: >>>> Slimer wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 2015-03-25 5:00 PM, Ezekiel wrote: >>>>>> "Melzzzzz" <mel@zzzzz.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:20150325190117.6ff30af2@maxa-pc... >>>>>>> " The GNOME project has released GNOME 3.16, the latest version of >>>>>>> GNOME 3. The new version is the result of six months work, and >>>>>>> includes 33,525 changes by 1043 authors." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yeeeeey! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://www.gnome.org/news/2015/03/gnome-3-16-released-2/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> <quote> >>>>>> History >>>>>> >>>>>> GNOME was started in August 1997 by Miguel de Icaza and Federico Mena >>>>>> as a free software project to develop a desktop environment and >>>>>> applications for it >>>>>> </quote> >>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Miguel was speaking his mind once and said something that wasn't >>>>>> flattering >>>>>> about Linux. So posers like Ahlstrom who have never contributed >>>>>> anything to free software now consider him a traitor. >>>>> >>>>> If I remember correctly, Miguel de Icaza eventually moved on to Mac OS >>>>> X and abandoned Gnome and Linux entirely. Actually, let's see what >>>>> Wikipedia has to say: >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miguel_de_Icaza#Preference_for_Mac_OS_X_over_Linux> >>>>> >>>>> "Preference for Mac OS X over Linux >>>>> >>>>> In August 2012, de Icaza criticized the Linux desktop as "killed by >>>>> Apple". De Icaza specifically criticized a generally developer-focused >>>>> culture, lack of backward compatibility and fragmentation among the >>>>> various Linux distributions.[18][19] In March 2013, de Icaza announced >>>>> on his personal blog that he regularly used Mac OS X instead of Linux >>>>> for desktop computing.[20]" >>>>> >>>>> You know your operating system sucks when even one of its most >>>>> important developers considers it to be unusable and adopts OS X >>>>> instead. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Which is really hilarious if he cites "lack of backward compatibility >>>> and fragmentation" is his reasons. Because OSX is of all the OS the >>>> worst one in >>>> these regards. By a very long shot. Even windows is far better in >>>> these things. Not to mention linux, which is usually far better than >>>> windows in backwards compatibility >>> >>> I agree with you and lack of backward compatibility is one of the many >>> reasons I dislike anything Apple produces. Linux is only slightly better >>> than OS X though: it's laughable how many applications will simply cease >>> to work correctly because you updated one of the many packages it >>> referred to >> >> Bullshit. Especially in linux it is extremely easy to provide several >> libraries concurrently. Much easier than in both windows and OSX > > It's _so_ hard in Windows that I can install software from the 90s or > the early 2000s and know that it will work whereas I have to wrestle > with dependencies in Linux. You clearly haven't used Windows since the > mid-90s and just make shit up as you go along. > > You can even run Windows 3.1 apps in Windows 8 fairly easily. Hell, you > can use the fucking MS-DOS Executive in Windows 8. You can't do that in > Linux with apps from that era. > > Face it, Klöwn, Windows is better in every imaginable way. You have no idea at all about DLL-naming problems in windows
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| From | Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-03-25 18:40 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mevdf5$ago$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #286030 |
On 2015-03-25 6:35 PM, Peter Köhlmann wrote: > Slimer wrote: > >> On 2015-03-25 6:14 PM, Peter Köhlmann wrote: >>> Slimer wrote: >>> >>>> On 2015-03-25 5:43 PM, Peter Köhlmann wrote: >>>>> Slimer wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 2015-03-25 5:00 PM, Ezekiel wrote: >>>>>>> "Melzzzzz" <mel@zzzzz.com> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:20150325190117.6ff30af2@maxa-pc... >>>>>>>> " The GNOME project has released GNOME 3.16, the latest version of >>>>>>>> GNOME 3. The new version is the result of six months work, and >>>>>>>> includes 33,525 changes by 1043 authors." >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yeeeeey! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://www.gnome.org/news/2015/03/gnome-3-16-released-2/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <quote> >>>>>>> History >>>>>>> >>>>>>> GNOME was started in August 1997 by Miguel de Icaza and Federico Mena >>>>>>> as a free software project to develop a desktop environment and >>>>>>> applications for it >>>>>>> </quote> >>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Miguel was speaking his mind once and said something that wasn't >>>>>>> flattering >>>>>>> about Linux. So posers like Ahlstrom who have never contributed >>>>>>> anything to free software now consider him a traitor. >>>>>> >>>>>> If I remember correctly, Miguel de Icaza eventually moved on to Mac OS >>>>>> X and abandoned Gnome and Linux entirely. Actually, let's see what >>>>>> Wikipedia has to say: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miguel_de_Icaza#Preference_for_Mac_OS_X_over_Linux> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Preference for Mac OS X over Linux >>>>>> >>>>>> In August 2012, de Icaza criticized the Linux desktop as "killed by >>>>>> Apple". De Icaza specifically criticized a generally developer-focused >>>>>> culture, lack of backward compatibility and fragmentation among the >>>>>> various Linux distributions.[18][19] In March 2013, de Icaza announced >>>>>> on his personal blog that he regularly used Mac OS X instead of Linux >>>>>> for desktop computing.[20]" >>>>>> >>>>>> You know your operating system sucks when even one of its most >>>>>> important developers considers it to be unusable and adopts OS X >>>>>> instead. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Which is really hilarious if he cites "lack of backward compatibility >>>>> and fragmentation" is his reasons. Because OSX is of all the OS the >>>>> worst one in >>>>> these regards. By a very long shot. Even windows is far better in >>>>> these things. Not to mention linux, which is usually far better than >>>>> windows in backwards compatibility >>>> >>>> I agree with you and lack of backward compatibility is one of the many >>>> reasons I dislike anything Apple produces. Linux is only slightly better >>>> than OS X though: it's laughable how many applications will simply cease >>>> to work correctly because you updated one of the many packages it >>>> referred to >>> >>> Bullshit. Especially in linux it is extremely easy to provide several >>> libraries concurrently. Much easier than in both windows and OSX >> >> It's _so_ hard in Windows that I can install software from the 90s or >> the early 2000s and know that it will work whereas I have to wrestle >> with dependencies in Linux. You clearly haven't used Windows since the >> mid-90s and just make shit up as you go along. >> >> You can even run Windows 3.1 apps in Windows 8 fairly easily. Hell, you >> can use the fucking MS-DOS Executive in Windows 8. You can't do that in >> Linux with apps from that era. >> >> Face it, Klöwn, Windows is better in every imaginable way. > > You have no idea at all about DLL-naming problems in windows Exactly, because they don't occur. I would be more familiar with the said "problem" if even once throughout my use of _every_ _single_ _version_ of Windows since 3.0, I actually *faced* it. You're a lying loser, Klöwnmann. -- Slimer OpenMedia, GreenPeace Supporter & SPCA Paw Partner Encrypt.
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| From | ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-03-25 23:20 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mevfro$ovd$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #286030 |
On Wed, 25 Mar 2015 23:35:47 +0100, Peter Köhlmann wrote:
> Slimer wrote:
>
>> On 2015-03-25 6:14 PM, Peter Köhlmann wrote:
>>> Slimer wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2015-03-25 5:43 PM, Peter Köhlmann wrote:
>>>>> Slimer wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2015-03-25 5:00 PM, Ezekiel wrote:
>>>>>>> "Melzzzzz" <mel@zzzzz.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:20150325190117.6ff30af2@maxa-pc...
>>>>>>>> " The GNOME project has released GNOME 3.16, the latest version
>>>>>>>> of GNOME 3. The new version is the result of six months work, and
>>>>>>>> includes 33,525 changes by 1043 authors."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yeeeeey!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.gnome.org/news/2015/03/gnome-3-16-released-2/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <quote>
>>>>>>> History
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> GNOME was started in August 1997 by Miguel de Icaza and Federico
>>>>>>> Mena as a free software project to develop a desktop environment
>>>>>>> and applications for it </quote>
>>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Miguel was speaking his mind once and said something that wasn't
>>>>>>> flattering about Linux. So posers like Ahlstrom who have never
>>>>>>> contributed anything to free software now consider him a traitor.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If I remember correctly, Miguel de Icaza eventually moved on to Mac
>>>>>> OS X and abandoned Gnome and Linux entirely. Actually, let's see
>>>>>> what Wikipedia has to say:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Miguel_de_Icaza#Preference_for_Mac_OS_X_over_Linux>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Preference for Mac OS X over Linux
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In August 2012, de Icaza criticized the Linux desktop as "killed by
>>>>>> Apple". De Icaza specifically criticized a generally
>>>>>> developer-focused culture, lack of backward compatibility and
>>>>>> fragmentation among the various Linux distributions.[18][19] In
>>>>>> March 2013, de Icaza announced on his personal blog that he
>>>>>> regularly used Mac OS X instead of Linux for desktop
>>>>>> computing.[20]"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You know your operating system sucks when even one of its most
>>>>>> important developers considers it to be unusable and adopts OS X
>>>>>> instead.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Which is really hilarious if he cites "lack of backward
>>>>> compatibility and fragmentation" is his reasons. Because OSX is of
>>>>> all the OS the worst one in these regards. By a very long shot. Even
>>>>> windows is far better in these things. Not to mention linux, which
>>>>> is usually far better than windows in backwards compatibility
>>>>
>>>> I agree with you and lack of backward compatibility is one of the
>>>> many reasons I dislike anything Apple produces. Linux is only
>>>> slightly better than OS X though: it's laughable how many
>>>> applications will simply cease to work correctly because you updated
>>>> one of the many packages it referred to
>>>
>>> Bullshit. Especially in linux it is extremely easy to provide several
>>> libraries concurrently. Much easier than in both windows and OSX
>>
>> It's _so_ hard in Windows that I can install software from the 90s or
>> the early 2000s and know that it will work whereas I have to wrestle
>> with dependencies in Linux. You clearly haven't used Windows since the
>> mid-90s and just make shit up as you go along.
>>
>> You can even run Windows 3.1 apps in Windows 8 fairly easily. Hell, you
>> can use the fucking MS-DOS Executive in Windows 8. You can't do that in
>> Linux with apps from that era.
>>
>> Face it, Klöwn, Windows is better in every imaginable way.
>
> You have no idea at all about DLL-naming problems in windows
He's delusional. What else is new?
--
When Microsoft makes a product that doesn't suck ...
it'll be a vacuum cleaner
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| From | GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-03-25 20:10 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <CeudnXkgjZgX947InZ2dnUU7-K2dnZ2d@bresnan.com> |
| In reply to | #286047 |
On 03/25/15 17:20, ronb wrote: > On Wed, 25 Mar 2015 23:35:47 +0100, Peter Köhlmann wrote: > >> Slimer wrote: >> >>> On 2015-03-25 6:14 PM, Peter Köhlmann wrote: >>>> Slimer wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 2015-03-25 5:43 PM, Peter Köhlmann wrote: >>>>>> Slimer wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2015-03-25 5:00 PM, Ezekiel wrote: >>>>>>>> "Melzzzzz"<mel@zzzzz.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:20150325190117.6ff30af2@maxa-pc... >>>>>>>>> " The GNOME project has released GNOME 3.16, the latest version >>>>>>>>> of GNOME 3. The new version is the result of six months work, and >>>>>>>>> includes 33,525 changes by 1043 authors." >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Yeeeeey! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://www.gnome.org/news/2015/03/gnome-3-16-released-2/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <quote> >>>>>>>> History >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> GNOME was started in August 1997 by Miguel de Icaza and Federico >>>>>>>> Mena as a free software project to develop a desktop environment >>>>>>>> and applications for it</quote> >>>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Miguel was speaking his mind once and said something that wasn't >>>>>>>> flattering about Linux. So posers like Ahlstrom who have never >>>>>>>> contributed anything to free software now consider him a traitor. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If I remember correctly, Miguel de Icaza eventually moved on to Mac >>>>>>> OS X and abandoned Gnome and Linux entirely. Actually, let's see >>>>>>> what Wikipedia has to say: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ > Miguel_de_Icaza#Preference_for_Mac_OS_X_over_Linux> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Preference for Mac OS X over Linux >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In August 2012, de Icaza criticized the Linux desktop as "killed by >>>>>>> Apple". De Icaza specifically criticized a generally >>>>>>> developer-focused culture, lack of backward compatibility and >>>>>>> fragmentation among the various Linux distributions.[18][19] In >>>>>>> March 2013, de Icaza announced on his personal blog that he >>>>>>> regularly used Mac OS X instead of Linux for desktop >>>>>>> computing.[20]" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You know your operating system sucks when even one of its most >>>>>>> important developers considers it to be unusable and adopts OS X >>>>>>> instead. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> Which is really hilarious if he cites "lack of backward >>>>>> compatibility and fragmentation" is his reasons. Because OSX is of >>>>>> all the OS the worst one in these regards. By a very long shot. Even >>>>>> windows is far better in these things. Not to mention linux, which >>>>>> is usually far better than windows in backwards compatibility >>>>> >>>>> I agree with you and lack of backward compatibility is one of the >>>>> many reasons I dislike anything Apple produces. Linux is only >>>>> slightly better than OS X though: it's laughable how many >>>>> applications will simply cease to work correctly because you updated >>>>> one of the many packages it referred to >>>> >>>> Bullshit. Especially in linux it is extremely easy to provide several >>>> libraries concurrently. Much easier than in both windows and OSX >>> >>> It's _so_ hard in Windows that I can install software from the 90s or >>> the early 2000s and know that it will work whereas I have to wrestle >>> with dependencies in Linux. You clearly haven't used Windows since the >>> mid-90s and just make shit up as you go along. >>> >>> You can even run Windows 3.1 apps in Windows 8 fairly easily. Hell, you >>> can use the fucking MS-DOS Executive in Windows 8. You can't do that in >>> Linux with apps from that era. >>> >>> Face it, Klöwn, Windows is better in every imaginable way. >> >> You have no idea at all about DLL-naming problems in windows > > He's delusional. What else is new? > And you are a hobbyist wannabe programmer that couldn't cut the grade. What else is new? -- When told the reason for daylight savings time the Old Indian said, "Only the government would believe that you could cut a foot off the top of a blanket, sew it to the bottom, and have a longer blanket."
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| From | Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-03-26 00:24 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <20150326002400.4ea41097@maxa-pc> |
| In reply to | #286030 |
On Wed, 25 Mar 2015 23:35:47 +0100 Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote: > Slimer wrote: > > > On 2015-03-25 6:14 PM, Peter Köhlmann wrote: > >> Slimer wrote: > >> > >>> On 2015-03-25 5:43 PM, Peter Köhlmann wrote: > >>>> Slimer wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> On 2015-03-25 5:00 PM, Ezekiel wrote: > >>>>>> "Melzzzzz" <mel@zzzzz.com> wrote in message > >>>>>> news:20150325190117.6ff30af2@maxa-pc... > >>>>>>> " The GNOME project has released GNOME 3.16, the latest > >>>>>>> version of GNOME 3. The new version is the result of six > >>>>>>> months work, and includes 33,525 changes by 1043 authors." > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Yeeeeey! > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> https://www.gnome.org/news/2015/03/gnome-3-16-released-2/ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> <quote> > >>>>>> History > >>>>>> > >>>>>> GNOME was started in August 1997 by Miguel de Icaza and > >>>>>> Federico Mena as a free software project to develop a desktop > >>>>>> environment and applications for it > >>>>>> </quote> > >>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Miguel was speaking his mind once and said something that > >>>>>> wasn't flattering > >>>>>> about Linux. So posers like Ahlstrom who have never > >>>>>> contributed anything to free software now consider him a > >>>>>> traitor. > >>>>> > >>>>> If I remember correctly, Miguel de Icaza eventually moved on to > >>>>> Mac OS X and abandoned Gnome and Linux entirely. Actually, > >>>>> let's see what Wikipedia has to say: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >> > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miguel_de_Icaza#Preference_for_Mac_OS_X_over_Linux> > >>>>> > >>>>> "Preference for Mac OS X over Linux > >>>>> > >>>>> In August 2012, de Icaza criticized the Linux desktop as > >>>>> "killed by Apple". De Icaza specifically criticized a generally > >>>>> developer-focused culture, lack of backward compatibility and > >>>>> fragmentation among the various Linux distributions.[18][19] In > >>>>> March 2013, de Icaza announced on his personal blog that he > >>>>> regularly used Mac OS X instead of Linux for desktop > >>>>> computing.[20]" > >>>>> > >>>>> You know your operating system sucks when even one of its most > >>>>> important developers considers it to be unusable and adopts OS X > >>>>> instead. > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> Which is really hilarious if he cites "lack of backward > >>>> compatibility and fragmentation" is his reasons. Because OSX is > >>>> of all the OS the worst one in > >>>> these regards. By a very long shot. Even windows is far better > >>>> in these things. Not to mention linux, which is usually far > >>>> better than windows in backwards compatibility > >>> > >>> I agree with you and lack of backward compatibility is one of the > >>> many reasons I dislike anything Apple produces. Linux is only > >>> slightly better than OS X though: it's laughable how many > >>> applications will simply cease to work correctly because you > >>> updated one of the many packages it referred to > >> > >> Bullshit. Especially in linux it is extremely easy to provide > >> several libraries concurrently. Much easier than in both windows > >> and OSX > > > > It's _so_ hard in Windows that I can install software from the 90s > > or the early 2000s and know that it will work whereas I have to > > wrestle with dependencies in Linux. You clearly haven't used > > Windows since the mid-90s and just make shit up as you go along. > > > > You can even run Windows 3.1 apps in Windows 8 fairly easily. Hell, > > you can use the fucking MS-DOS Executive in Windows 8. You can't do > > that in Linux with apps from that era. > > > > Face it, Klöwn, Windows is better in every imaginable way. > > You have no idea at all about DLL-naming problems in windows > Slimer is lying. You can't even run Windows XP games on later Windows...
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| From | ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-03-25 23:25 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mevg67$ovd$6@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #286050 |
On Thu, 26 Mar 2015 00:24:00 +0100, Melzzzzz wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Mar 2015 23:35:47 +0100 Peter Köhlmann
> <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
>
>> Slimer wrote:
>>
>> > On 2015-03-25 6:14 PM, Peter Köhlmann wrote:
>> >> Slimer wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> On 2015-03-25 5:43 PM, Peter Köhlmann wrote:
>> >>>> Slimer wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> On 2015-03-25 5:00 PM, Ezekiel wrote:
>> >>>>>> "Melzzzzz" <mel@zzzzz.com> wrote in message
>> >>>>>> news:20150325190117.6ff30af2@maxa-pc...
>> >>>>>>> " The GNOME project has released GNOME 3.16, the latest version
>> >>>>>>> of GNOME 3. The new version is the result of six months work,
>> >>>>>>> and includes 33,525 changes by 1043 authors."
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Yeeeeey!
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> https://www.gnome.org/news/2015/03/gnome-3-16-released-2/
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> <quote>
>> >>>>>> History
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> GNOME was started in August 1997 by Miguel de Icaza and Federico
>> >>>>>> Mena as a free software project to develop a desktop environment
>> >>>>>> and applications for it </quote>
>> >>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Miguel was speaking his mind once and said something that wasn't
>> >>>>>> flattering about Linux. So posers like Ahlstrom who have never
>> >>>>>> contributed anything to free software now consider him a
>> >>>>>> traitor.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> If I remember correctly, Miguel de Icaza eventually moved on to
>> >>>>> Mac OS X and abandoned Gnome and Linux entirely. Actually, let's
>> >>>>> see what Wikipedia has to say:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Miguel_de_Icaza#Preference_for_Mac_OS_X_over_Linux>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> "Preference for Mac OS X over Linux
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> In August 2012, de Icaza criticized the Linux desktop as "killed
>> >>>>> by Apple". De Icaza specifically criticized a generally
>> >>>>> developer-focused culture, lack of backward compatibility and
>> >>>>> fragmentation among the various Linux distributions.[18][19] In
>> >>>>> March 2013, de Icaza announced on his personal blog that he
>> >>>>> regularly used Mac OS X instead of Linux for desktop
>> >>>>> computing.[20]"
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> You know your operating system sucks when even one of its most
>> >>>>> important developers considers it to be unusable and adopts OS X
>> >>>>> instead.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>> Which is really hilarious if he cites "lack of backward
>> >>>> compatibility and fragmentation" is his reasons. Because OSX is of
>> >>>> all the OS the worst one in these regards. By a very long shot.
>> >>>> Even windows is far better in these things. Not to mention linux,
>> >>>> which is usually far better than windows in backwards
>> >>>> compatibility
>> >>>
>> >>> I agree with you and lack of backward compatibility is one of the
>> >>> many reasons I dislike anything Apple produces. Linux is only
>> >>> slightly better than OS X though: it's laughable how many
>> >>> applications will simply cease to work correctly because you
>> >>> updated one of the many packages it referred to
>> >>
>> >> Bullshit. Especially in linux it is extremely easy to provide
>> >> several libraries concurrently. Much easier than in both windows and
>> >> OSX
>> >
>> > It's _so_ hard in Windows that I can install software from the 90s or
>> > the early 2000s and know that it will work whereas I have to wrestle
>> > with dependencies in Linux. You clearly haven't used Windows since
>> > the mid-90s and just make shit up as you go along.
>> >
>> > You can even run Windows 3.1 apps in Windows 8 fairly easily. Hell,
>> > you can use the fucking MS-DOS Executive in Windows 8. You can't do
>> > that in Linux with apps from that era.
>> >
>> > Face it, Klöwn, Windows is better in every imaginable way.
>>
>> You have no idea at all about DLL-naming problems in windows
>>
>>
> Slimer is lying. You can't even run Windows XP games on later Windows...
For years corporations have avoided upgrading above Windows XP because of
the nightmare of adopting their custom applications to Vista/7/8.x -- so,
yeah, "Slimer" is full of Snit.
--
When Microsoft makes a product that doesn't suck ...
it'll be a vacuum cleaner
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| From | GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-03-25 20:10 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <CeudnXsgjZgs947InZ2dnUU7-K2dnZ2d@bresnan.com> |
| In reply to | #286053 |
On 03/25/15 17:25, ronb wrote: > On Thu, 26 Mar 2015 00:24:00 +0100, Melzzzzz wrote: > >> On Wed, 25 Mar 2015 23:35:47 +0100 Peter Köhlmann >> <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote: >> >>> Slimer wrote: >>> >>>> On 2015-03-25 6:14 PM, Peter Köhlmann wrote: >>>>> Slimer wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 2015-03-25 5:43 PM, Peter Köhlmann wrote: >>>>>>> Slimer wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 2015-03-25 5:00 PM, Ezekiel wrote: >>>>>>>>> "Melzzzzz"<mel@zzzzz.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>> news:20150325190117.6ff30af2@maxa-pc... >>>>>>>>>> " The GNOME project has released GNOME 3.16, the latest version >>>>>>>>>> of GNOME 3. The new version is the result of six months work, >>>>>>>>>> and includes 33,525 changes by 1043 authors." >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Yeeeeey! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> https://www.gnome.org/news/2015/03/gnome-3-16-released-2/ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> <quote> >>>>>>>>> History >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> GNOME was started in August 1997 by Miguel de Icaza and Federico >>>>>>>>> Mena as a free software project to develop a desktop environment >>>>>>>>> and applications for it</quote> >>>>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Miguel was speaking his mind once and said something that wasn't >>>>>>>>> flattering about Linux. So posers like Ahlstrom who have never >>>>>>>>> contributed anything to free software now consider him a >>>>>>>>> traitor. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If I remember correctly, Miguel de Icaza eventually moved on to >>>>>>>> Mac OS X and abandoned Gnome and Linux entirely. Actually, let's >>>>>>>> see what Wikipedia has to say: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ > Miguel_de_Icaza#Preference_for_Mac_OS_X_over_Linux> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Preference for Mac OS X over Linux >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In August 2012, de Icaza criticized the Linux desktop as "killed >>>>>>>> by Apple". De Icaza specifically criticized a generally >>>>>>>> developer-focused culture, lack of backward compatibility and >>>>>>>> fragmentation among the various Linux distributions.[18][19] In >>>>>>>> March 2013, de Icaza announced on his personal blog that he >>>>>>>> regularly used Mac OS X instead of Linux for desktop >>>>>>>> computing.[20]" >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You know your operating system sucks when even one of its most >>>>>>>> important developers considers it to be unusable and adopts OS X >>>>>>>> instead. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Which is really hilarious if he cites "lack of backward >>>>>>> compatibility and fragmentation" is his reasons. Because OSX is of >>>>>>> all the OS the worst one in these regards. By a very long shot. >>>>>>> Even windows is far better in these things. Not to mention linux, >>>>>>> which is usually far better than windows in backwards >>>>>>> compatibility >>>>>> >>>>>> I agree with you and lack of backward compatibility is one of the >>>>>> many reasons I dislike anything Apple produces. Linux is only >>>>>> slightly better than OS X though: it's laughable how many >>>>>> applications will simply cease to work correctly because you >>>>>> updated one of the many packages it referred to >>>>> >>>>> Bullshit. Especially in linux it is extremely easy to provide >>>>> several libraries concurrently. Much easier than in both windows and >>>>> OSX >>>> >>>> It's _so_ hard in Windows that I can install software from the 90s or >>>> the early 2000s and know that it will work whereas I have to wrestle >>>> with dependencies in Linux. You clearly haven't used Windows since >>>> the mid-90s and just make shit up as you go along. >>>> >>>> You can even run Windows 3.1 apps in Windows 8 fairly easily. Hell, >>>> you can use the fucking MS-DOS Executive in Windows 8. You can't do >>>> that in Linux with apps from that era. >>>> >>>> Face it, Klöwn, Windows is better in every imaginable way. >>> >>> You have no idea at all about DLL-naming problems in windows >>> >>> >> Slimer is lying. You can't even run Windows XP games on later Windows... > > For years corporations have avoided upgrading above Windows XP because of > the nightmare of adopting their custom applications to Vista/7/8.x -- so, > yeah, "Slimer" is full of Snit. > Liar. -- When told the reason for daylight savings time the Old Indian said, "Only the government would believe that you could cut a foot off the top of a blanket, sew it to the bottom, and have a longer blanket."
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| From | Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-03-25 22:27 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mevqpo$vk1$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #286053 |
On 2015-03-25 7:25 PM, ronb wrote: > On Thu, 26 Mar 2015 00:24:00 +0100, Melzzzzz wrote: > >> On Wed, 25 Mar 2015 23:35:47 +0100 Peter Köhlmann >> <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote: >> >>> Slimer wrote: >>> >>>> On 2015-03-25 6:14 PM, Peter Köhlmann wrote: >>>>> Slimer wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 2015-03-25 5:43 PM, Peter Köhlmann wrote: >>>>>>> Slimer wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 2015-03-25 5:00 PM, Ezekiel wrote: >>>>>>>>> "Melzzzzz" <mel@zzzzz.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>> news:20150325190117.6ff30af2@maxa-pc... >>>>>>>>>> " The GNOME project has released GNOME 3.16, the latest version >>>>>>>>>> of GNOME 3. The new version is the result of six months work, >>>>>>>>>> and includes 33,525 changes by 1043 authors." >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Yeeeeey! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> https://www.gnome.org/news/2015/03/gnome-3-16-released-2/ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> <quote> >>>>>>>>> History >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> GNOME was started in August 1997 by Miguel de Icaza and Federico >>>>>>>>> Mena as a free software project to develop a desktop environment >>>>>>>>> and applications for it </quote> >>>>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Miguel was speaking his mind once and said something that wasn't >>>>>>>>> flattering about Linux. So posers like Ahlstrom who have never >>>>>>>>> contributed anything to free software now consider him a >>>>>>>>> traitor. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If I remember correctly, Miguel de Icaza eventually moved on to >>>>>>>> Mac OS X and abandoned Gnome and Linux entirely. Actually, let's >>>>>>>> see what Wikipedia has to say: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ > Miguel_de_Icaza#Preference_for_Mac_OS_X_over_Linux> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Preference for Mac OS X over Linux >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In August 2012, de Icaza criticized the Linux desktop as "killed >>>>>>>> by Apple". De Icaza specifically criticized a generally >>>>>>>> developer-focused culture, lack of backward compatibility and >>>>>>>> fragmentation among the various Linux distributions.[18][19] In >>>>>>>> March 2013, de Icaza announced on his personal blog that he >>>>>>>> regularly used Mac OS X instead of Linux for desktop >>>>>>>> computing.[20]" >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You know your operating system sucks when even one of its most >>>>>>>> important developers considers it to be unusable and adopts OS X >>>>>>>> instead. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Which is really hilarious if he cites "lack of backward >>>>>>> compatibility and fragmentation" is his reasons. Because OSX is of >>>>>>> all the OS the worst one in these regards. By a very long shot. >>>>>>> Even windows is far better in these things. Not to mention linux, >>>>>>> which is usually far better than windows in backwards >>>>>>> compatibility >>>>>> >>>>>> I agree with you and lack of backward compatibility is one of the >>>>>> many reasons I dislike anything Apple produces. Linux is only >>>>>> slightly better than OS X though: it's laughable how many >>>>>> applications will simply cease to work correctly because you >>>>>> updated one of the many packages it referred to >>>>> >>>>> Bullshit. Especially in linux it is extremely easy to provide >>>>> several libraries concurrently. Much easier than in both windows and >>>>> OSX >>>> >>>> It's _so_ hard in Windows that I can install software from the 90s or >>>> the early 2000s and know that it will work whereas I have to wrestle >>>> with dependencies in Linux. You clearly haven't used Windows since >>>> the mid-90s and just make shit up as you go along. >>>> >>>> You can even run Windows 3.1 apps in Windows 8 fairly easily. Hell, >>>> you can use the fucking MS-DOS Executive in Windows 8. You can't do >>>> that in Linux with apps from that era. >>>> >>>> Face it, Klöwn, Windows is better in every imaginable way. >>> >>> You have no idea at all about DLL-naming problems in windows >>> >>> >> Slimer is lying. You can't even run Windows XP games on later Windows... > > For years corporations have avoided upgrading above Windows XP because of > the nightmare of adopting their custom applications to Vista/7/8.x -- so, > yeah, "Slimer" is full of Snit. Funny enough, GTA: San Andreas and Vice City are both Windows XP games which run fine on Windows 8.1. It's too bad that Melzzzz is too much of an idiot to get them to run. As far as I know, Fallout 3 is the only one causing any sort of issues. -- Slimer OpenMedia, GreenPeace Supporter & SPCA Paw Partner Encrypt.
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| From | Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-03-26 03:38 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <20150326033856.02cd9bfc@maxa-pc> |
| In reply to | #286119 |
On Wed, 25 Mar 2015 22:27:58 -0400 Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> wrote: > On 2015-03-25 7:25 PM, ronb wrote: > > On Thu, 26 Mar 2015 00:24:00 +0100, Melzzzzz wrote: > > > >> On Wed, 25 Mar 2015 23:35:47 +0100 Peter Köhlmann > >> <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote: > >> > >>> Slimer wrote: > >>> > >>>> On 2015-03-25 6:14 PM, Peter Köhlmann wrote: > >>>>> Slimer wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> On 2015-03-25 5:43 PM, Peter Köhlmann wrote: > >>>>>>> Slimer wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On 2015-03-25 5:00 PM, Ezekiel wrote: > >>>>>>>>> "Melzzzzz" <mel@zzzzz.com> wrote in message > >>>>>>>>> news:20150325190117.6ff30af2@maxa-pc... > >>>>>>>>>> " The GNOME project has released GNOME 3.16, the latest > >>>>>>>>>> version of GNOME 3. The new version is the result of six > >>>>>>>>>> months work, and includes 33,525 changes by 1043 authors." > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Yeeeeey! > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> https://www.gnome.org/news/2015/03/gnome-3-16-released-2/ > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> <quote> > >>>>>>>>> History > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> GNOME was started in August 1997 by Miguel de Icaza and > >>>>>>>>> Federico Mena as a free software project to develop a > >>>>>>>>> desktop environment and applications for it </quote> > >>>>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Miguel was speaking his mind once and said something that > >>>>>>>>> wasn't flattering about Linux. So posers like Ahlstrom who > >>>>>>>>> have never contributed anything to free software now > >>>>>>>>> consider him a traitor. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> If I remember correctly, Miguel de Icaza eventually moved on > >>>>>>>> to Mac OS X and abandoned Gnome and Linux entirely. > >>>>>>>> Actually, let's see what Wikipedia has to say: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ > > Miguel_de_Icaza#Preference_for_Mac_OS_X_over_Linux> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> "Preference for Mac OS X over Linux > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> In August 2012, de Icaza criticized the Linux desktop as > >>>>>>>> "killed by Apple". De Icaza specifically criticized a > >>>>>>>> generally developer-focused culture, lack of backward > >>>>>>>> compatibility and fragmentation among the various Linux > >>>>>>>> distributions.[18][19] In March 2013, de Icaza announced on > >>>>>>>> his personal blog that he regularly used Mac OS X instead of > >>>>>>>> Linux for desktop computing.[20]" > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> You know your operating system sucks when even one of its > >>>>>>>> most important developers considers it to be unusable and > >>>>>>>> adopts OS X instead. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Which is really hilarious if he cites "lack of backward > >>>>>>> compatibility and fragmentation" is his reasons. Because OSX > >>>>>>> is of all the OS the worst one in these regards. By a very > >>>>>>> long shot. Even windows is far better in these things. Not to > >>>>>>> mention linux, which is usually far better than windows in > >>>>>>> backwards compatibility > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I agree with you and lack of backward compatibility is one of > >>>>>> the many reasons I dislike anything Apple produces. Linux is > >>>>>> only slightly better than OS X though: it's laughable how many > >>>>>> applications will simply cease to work correctly because you > >>>>>> updated one of the many packages it referred to > >>>>> > >>>>> Bullshit. Especially in linux it is extremely easy to provide > >>>>> several libraries concurrently. Much easier than in both > >>>>> windows and OSX > >>>> > >>>> It's _so_ hard in Windows that I can install software from the > >>>> 90s or the early 2000s and know that it will work whereas I have > >>>> to wrestle with dependencies in Linux. You clearly haven't used > >>>> Windows since the mid-90s and just make shit up as you go along. > >>>> > >>>> You can even run Windows 3.1 apps in Windows 8 fairly easily. > >>>> Hell, you can use the fucking MS-DOS Executive in Windows 8. You > >>>> can't do that in Linux with apps from that era. > >>>> > >>>> Face it, Klöwn, Windows is better in every imaginable way. > >>> > >>> You have no idea at all about DLL-naming problems in windows > >>> > >>> > >> Slimer is lying. You can't even run Windows XP games on later > >> Windows... > > > > For years corporations have avoided upgrading above Windows XP > > because of the nightmare of adopting their custom applications to > > Vista/7/8.x -- so, yeah, "Slimer" is full of Snit. > > Funny enough, GTA: San Andreas and Vice City are both Windows XP > games which run fine on Windows 8.1. It's too bad that Melzzzz is too > much of an idiot to get them to run. They both run on Linux under wine no problem with platinum rating... As far as I know, Fallout 3 is > the only one causing any sort of issues. > On wine under Linux it runs flawlessly... I have bought it when game came out ;)
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| From | ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-03-26 04:30 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mf020l$g9l$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #286125 |
On Thu, 26 Mar 2015 03:38:56 +0100, Melzzzzz wrote:
>> Funny enough, GTA: San Andreas and Vice City are both Windows XP games
>> which run fine on Windows 8.1. It's too bad that Melzzzz is too much of
>> an idiot to get them to run.
Well, yeah,these games two have ... uh ... nothing to do with with
corporate custom applications. But thanks for ATTEMPTING to play, Slime.
Why don't you head on over to the idiot section and amuse them with fart
jokes.
> They both run on Linux under wine no problem with platinum rating...
There you go -- not that I give a half a rat's ass about GTA: San Andreas
or Vice City. This is the first time I've hear of either.
--
When Microsoft makes a product that doesn't suck ...
it'll be a vacuum cleaner
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| From | Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-03-26 09:02 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mf0vvn$m6p$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #286158 |
On 2015-03-26 12:30 AM, ronb wrote: > On Thu, 26 Mar 2015 03:38:56 +0100, Melzzzzz wrote: > >>> Funny enough, GTA: San Andreas and Vice City are both Windows XP games >>> which run fine on Windows 8.1. It's too bad that Melzzzz is too much of >>> an idiot to get them to run. > > Well, yeah,these games two have ... uh ... nothing to do with with > corporate custom applications. But thanks for ATTEMPTING to play, Slime. > Why don't you head on over to the idiot section and amuse them with fart > jokes. Actually, they do. Games as software are generally a lot more complex than any "corporate custom application" is. If games from a previous generation can run without any kind of problems, you would expect that a "corporate custom application" would as well if it were programmed by competent developers. If it doesn't, it's the developer's fault and not Microsoft's no matter how much tap-dancing you do. >> They both run on Linux under wine no problem with platinum rating... > > There you go -- not that I give a half a rat's ass about GTA: San Andreas > or Vice City. This is the first time I've hear of either. Seriously? Grand Theft Auto is probably the most popular franchise in all of gaming and you're trying to downplay it as being insignificant? It's amazing how far you'll go to lie. -- Slimer OpenMedia, GreenPeace Supporter & SPCA Paw Partner Encrypt.
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| From | vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> |
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| Date | 2015-03-28 16:29 -0700 |
| Subject | Windows games, sound routing, and all that jazzercize |
| Message-ID | <55173978$0$46885$c3e8da3$aae71a0a@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #286125 |
On 03/25/2015 07:38 PM, Melzzzzz wrote: > On Wed, 25 Mar 2015 22:27:58 -0400 > Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> wrote: > >> On 2015-03-25 7:25 PM, ronb wrote: >>> On Thu, 26 Mar 2015 00:24:00 +0100, Melzzzzz wrote: >>> >>>> On Wed, 25 Mar 2015 23:35:47 +0100 Peter Köhlmann >>>> <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Slimer wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 2015-03-25 6:14 PM, Peter Köhlmann wrote: >>>>>>> Slimer wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 2015-03-25 5:43 PM, Peter Köhlmann wrote: >>>>>>>>> Slimer wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 2015-03-25 5:00 PM, Ezekiel wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> "Melzzzzz" <mel@zzzzz.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>> news:20150325190117.6ff30af2@maxa-pc... >>>>>>>>>>>> " The GNOME project has released GNOME 3.16, the latest >>>>>>>>>>>> version of GNOME 3. The new version is the result of six >>>>>>>>>>>> months work, and includes 33,525 changes by 1043 authors." >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Yeeeeey! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.gnome.org/news/2015/03/gnome-3-16-released-2/ >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> <quote> >>>>>>>>>>> History >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> GNOME was started in August 1997 by Miguel de Icaza and >>>>>>>>>>> Federico Mena as a free software project to develop a >>>>>>>>>>> desktop environment and applications for it </quote> >>>>>>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Miguel was speaking his mind once and said something that >>>>>>>>>>> wasn't flattering about Linux. So posers like Ahlstrom who >>>>>>>>>>> have never contributed anything to free software now >>>>>>>>>>> consider him a traitor. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If I remember correctly, Miguel de Icaza eventually moved on >>>>>>>>>> to Mac OS X and abandoned Gnome and Linux entirely. >>>>>>>>>> Actually, let's see what Wikipedia has to say: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ >>> Miguel_de_Icaza#Preference_for_Mac_OS_X_over_Linux> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "Preference for Mac OS X over Linux >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> In August 2012, de Icaza criticized the Linux desktop as >>>>>>>>>> "killed by Apple". De Icaza specifically criticized a >>>>>>>>>> generally developer-focused culture, lack of backward >>>>>>>>>> compatibility and fragmentation among the various Linux >>>>>>>>>> distributions.[18][19] In March 2013, de Icaza announced on >>>>>>>>>> his personal blog that he regularly used Mac OS X instead of >>>>>>>>>> Linux for desktop computing.[20]" >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You know your operating system sucks when even one of its >>>>>>>>>> most important developers considers it to be unusable and >>>>>>>>>> adopts OS X instead. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Which is really hilarious if he cites "lack of backward >>>>>>>>> compatibility and fragmentation" is his reasons. Because OSX >>>>>>>>> is of all the OS the worst one in these regards. By a very >>>>>>>>> long shot. Even windows is far better in these things. Not to >>>>>>>>> mention linux, which is usually far better than windows in >>>>>>>>> backwards compatibility >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I agree with you and lack of backward compatibility is one of >>>>>>>> the many reasons I dislike anything Apple produces. Linux is >>>>>>>> only slightly better than OS X though: it's laughable how many >>>>>>>> applications will simply cease to work correctly because you >>>>>>>> updated one of the many packages it referred to >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Bullshit. Especially in linux it is extremely easy to provide >>>>>>> several libraries concurrently. Much easier than in both >>>>>>> windows and OSX >>>>>> >>>>>> It's _so_ hard in Windows that I can install software from the >>>>>> 90s or the early 2000s and know that it will work whereas I have >>>>>> to wrestle with dependencies in Linux. You clearly haven't used >>>>>> Windows since the mid-90s and just make shit up as you go along. >>>>>> >>>>>> You can even run Windows 3.1 apps in Windows 8 fairly easily. >>>>>> Hell, you can use the fucking MS-DOS Executive in Windows 8. You >>>>>> can't do that in Linux with apps from that era. >>>>>> >>>>>> Face it, Klöwn, Windows is better in every imaginable way. >>>>> >>>>> You have no idea at all about DLL-naming problems in windows >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Slimer is lying. You can't even run Windows XP games on later >>>> Windows... >>> >>> For years corporations have avoided upgrading above Windows XP >>> because of the nightmare of adopting their custom applications to >>> Vista/7/8.x -- so, yeah, "Slimer" is full of Snit. >> >> Funny enough, GTA: San Andreas and Vice City are both Windows XP >> games which run fine on Windows 8.1. It's too bad that Melzzzz is too >> much of an idiot to get them to run. > > They both run on Linux under wine no problem with platinum rating... > > As far as I know, Fallout 3 is >> the only one causing any sort of issues. >> > > On wine under Linux it runs flawlessly... > I have bought it when game came out ;) > > I've talked about this before. Fallout 3 is only one example of "works not so well with Windows 7". I've tried all the fixes myself, and still can't get it to run properly in Win7 64-bit. This is not for a lack of trying -- but with WINE on Linux, I'm good. Is it possible for me to get it running on Win 7? Possibly with...how much work? Meanwhile, all it took to get it working in WINE is to use winecfg to set up the environment in such a way that you (and the game) are happy with the result. But this isn't the only game that runs on XP that wouldn't run on Win 7 64-bit -- another one was "Independence War", for which I had a hankering to play a year or so ago. I tracked down and bought the original CD set, thinking I would just install it on Windows and be done with it. For whatever reason, the EXE's on the CD I got were 16-bit. Windows 7 64-bit did away with support for 16-bit executables. So you can either downgrade to 32-bit Win7, or do something like this: http://www.freezenet.ca/guides/compatibility-and-emulation/how-to-play-16-bit-windows-gamesapplications-on-a-64-bit-computer/ ...whose solution is basically, "install Windows 3.1 in a DOSBox, and run it there". Or -- boot Linux and try running it in WINE. Or -- ignore the CD's and buy it on gog.com. Which is what I should have done in the first place. ;) http://www.gog.com/game/independence_war_deluxe Anyway, this is all moot now, since I've been eating up time in Elite:Dangerous. That, unfortunately, doesn't work in WINE yet -- which is a shame, because the sound options available with pulseaudio make those in Windows 7 look like a joke. Hell, last night I was testing my new video server (which is running nginx+rtmp module), and wanted to watch the video stream on the same machine that was publishing the audio and video. No problem -- shunted the sound I wanted published to the video server to a null device, and used obs-studio to stream that audio, as well as captured video from part of my desktop. Then muted my loopback device that I usually use to listen to the null device. Tada -- I was streaming the sound, but only hearing it on the playback stream coming from the video server. Maybe Windows 8.1 or Windows 10 have this kind of flexibility with their sound? Windows 7 certainly doesn't, unless you buy Virtual Audio Cable -- and even then, there are still limitations if you want sound from certain applications to go to a non-default device, without dragging everything else along with it. Nor does VAC have the equivalent of a pulseaudio loopback device -- you run a separate program called a "repeater" to pump audio around. This is more complicated than Linux. And if anyone knows, on Windows 7, exactly how I can watch a video without the audio being rebroadcasted while I'm streaming, "I'd love to hear how to do that". Because the only way you could do that with VAC is if you had a web browser that lets you set the audio device to be non-default (so you can, say, set the output device to a VAC virtual device). (But I've digressed. I'm not sure that the average gamer streams their games to twitch.tv, and even fewer are racking their own video server in a datacenter cab...) p.s. Apparently XP had the ability to redirect sound from the game's window's menu -- why on earth would they do away with that on Win7? -- -v Bus error -- please leave by the rear door.
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| From | Donald Miller <donaldmiller955@mail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-03-28 19:37 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: Windows games, sound routing, and all that jazzercize |
| Message-ID | <7leehaluq1tfmem4gaei6oqrl7kvelf0ks@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #286504 |
On Sat, 28 Mar 2015 16:29:59 -0700, vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote: >On 03/25/2015 07:38 PM, Melzzzzz wrote: >> On Wed, 25 Mar 2015 22:27:58 -0400 >> Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> wrote: >> >>> On 2015-03-25 7:25 PM, ronb wrote: >>>> On Thu, 26 Mar 2015 00:24:00 +0100, Melzzzzz wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Wed, 25 Mar 2015 23:35:47 +0100 Peter Köhlmann >>>>> <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Slimer wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2015-03-25 6:14 PM, Peter Köhlmann wrote: >>>>>>>> Slimer wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 2015-03-25 5:43 PM, Peter Köhlmann wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Slimer wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 2015-03-25 5:00 PM, Ezekiel wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> "Melzzzzz" <mel@zzzzz.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>> news:20150325190117.6ff30af2@maxa-pc... >>>>>>>>>>>>> " The GNOME project has released GNOME 3.16, the latest >>>>>>>>>>>>> version of GNOME 3. The new version is the result of six >>>>>>>>>>>>> months work, and includes 33,525 changes by 1043 authors." >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeeeeey! >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.gnome.org/news/2015/03/gnome-3-16-released-2/ >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> <quote> >>>>>>>>>>>> History >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> GNOME was started in August 1997 by Miguel de Icaza and >>>>>>>>>>>> Federico Mena as a free software project to develop a >>>>>>>>>>>> desktop environment and applications for it </quote> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Miguel was speaking his mind once and said something that >>>>>>>>>>>> wasn't flattering about Linux. So posers like Ahlstrom who >>>>>>>>>>>> have never contributed anything to free software now >>>>>>>>>>>> consider him a traitor. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> If I remember correctly, Miguel de Icaza eventually moved on >>>>>>>>>>> to Mac OS X and abandoned Gnome and Linux entirely. >>>>>>>>>>> Actually, let's see what Wikipedia has to say: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ >>>> Miguel_de_Icaza#Preference_for_Mac_OS_X_over_Linux> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "Preference for Mac OS X over Linux >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> In August 2012, de Icaza criticized the Linux desktop as >>>>>>>>>>> "killed by Apple". De Icaza specifically criticized a >>>>>>>>>>> generally developer-focused culture, lack of backward >>>>>>>>>>> compatibility and fragmentation among the various Linux >>>>>>>>>>> distributions.[18][19] In March 2013, de Icaza announced on >>>>>>>>>>> his personal blog that he regularly used Mac OS X instead of >>>>>>>>>>> Linux for desktop computing.[20]" >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> You know your operating system sucks when even one of its >>>>>>>>>>> most important developers considers it to be unusable and >>>>>>>>>>> adopts OS X instead. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Which is really hilarious if he cites "lack of backward >>>>>>>>>> compatibility and fragmentation" is his reasons. Because OSX >>>>>>>>>> is of all the OS the worst one in these regards. By a very >>>>>>>>>> long shot. Even windows is far better in these things. Not to >>>>>>>>>> mention linux, which is usually far better than windows in >>>>>>>>>> backwards compatibility >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I agree with you and lack of backward compatibility is one of >>>>>>>>> the many reasons I dislike anything Apple produces. Linux is >>>>>>>>> only slightly better than OS X though: it's laughable how many >>>>>>>>> applications will simply cease to work correctly because you >>>>>>>>> updated one of the many packages it referred to >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Bullshit. Especially in linux it is extremely easy to provide >>>>>>>> several libraries concurrently. Much easier than in both >>>>>>>> windows and OSX >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It's _so_ hard in Windows that I can install software from the >>>>>>> 90s or the early 2000s and know that it will work whereas I have >>>>>>> to wrestle with dependencies in Linux. You clearly haven't used >>>>>>> Windows since the mid-90s and just make shit up as you go along. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can even run Windows 3.1 apps in Windows 8 fairly easily. >>>>>>> Hell, you can use the fucking MS-DOS Executive in Windows 8. You >>>>>>> can't do that in Linux with apps from that era. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Face it, Klöwn, Windows is better in every imaginable way. >>>>>> >>>>>> You have no idea at all about DLL-naming problems in windows >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Slimer is lying. You can't even run Windows XP games on later >>>>> Windows... >>>> >>>> For years corporations have avoided upgrading above Windows XP >>>> because of the nightmare of adopting their custom applications to >>>> Vista/7/8.x -- so, yeah, "Slimer" is full of Snit. >>> >>> Funny enough, GTA: San Andreas and Vice City are both Windows XP >>> games which run fine on Windows 8.1. It's too bad that Melzzzz is too >>> much of an idiot to get them to run. >> >> They both run on Linux under wine no problem with platinum rating... >> >> As far as I know, Fallout 3 is >>> the only one causing any sort of issues. >>> >> >> On wine under Linux it runs flawlessly... >> I have bought it when game came out ;) >> >> > >I've talked about this before. Fallout 3 is only one example of "works >not so well with Windows 7". I've tried all the fixes myself, and still >can't get it to run properly in Win7 64-bit. This is not for a lack of >trying -- but with WINE on Linux, I'm good. 2008 called and wants their game back. Solution 1: Play Linux games instead. Solution 2: Run the game under the version of the operating system it was designed for, Windows XP I believe. Try telling IBM you need to run some System 370 program from 1975 on your EC12 machine and see how far you get.
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| From | vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> |
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| Date | 2015-03-28 18:51 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Windows games, sound routing, and all that jazzercize |
| Message-ID | <55175a8d$0$41608$c3e8da3$5d8fb80f@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #286505 |
On 03/28/2015 04:37 PM, Donald Miller wrote: > On Sat, 28 Mar 2015 16:29:59 -0700, vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote: > >> On 03/25/2015 07:38 PM, Melzzzzz wrote: >>> On Wed, 25 Mar 2015 22:27:58 -0400 >>> Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> wrote: >>> >>>> On 2015-03-25 7:25 PM, ronb wrote: >>>>> On Thu, 26 Mar 2015 00:24:00 +0100, Melzzzzz wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, 25 Mar 2015 23:35:47 +0100 Peter Köhlmann >>>>>> <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Slimer wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 2015-03-25 6:14 PM, Peter Köhlmann wrote: >>>>>>>>> Slimer wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 2015-03-25 5:43 PM, Peter Köhlmann wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Slimer wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 2015-03-25 5:00 PM, Ezekiel wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> "Melzzzzz" <mel@zzzzz.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>> news:20150325190117.6ff30af2@maxa-pc... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> " The GNOME project has released GNOME 3.16, the latest >>>>>>>>>>>>>> version of GNOME 3. The new version is the result of six >>>>>>>>>>>>>> months work, and includes 33,525 changes by 1043 authors." >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeeeeey! >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.gnome.org/news/2015/03/gnome-3-16-released-2/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <quote> >>>>>>>>>>>>> History >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> GNOME was started in August 1997 by Miguel de Icaza and >>>>>>>>>>>>> Federico Mena as a free software project to develop a >>>>>>>>>>>>> desktop environment and applications for it </quote> >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Miguel was speaking his mind once and said something that >>>>>>>>>>>>> wasn't flattering about Linux. So posers like Ahlstrom who >>>>>>>>>>>>> have never contributed anything to free software now >>>>>>>>>>>>> consider him a traitor. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> If I remember correctly, Miguel de Icaza eventually moved on >>>>>>>>>>>> to Mac OS X and abandoned Gnome and Linux entirely. >>>>>>>>>>>> Actually, let's see what Wikipedia has to say: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ >>>>> Miguel_de_Icaza#Preference_for_Mac_OS_X_over_Linux> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> "Preference for Mac OS X over Linux >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> In August 2012, de Icaza criticized the Linux desktop as >>>>>>>>>>>> "killed by Apple". De Icaza specifically criticized a >>>>>>>>>>>> generally developer-focused culture, lack of backward >>>>>>>>>>>> compatibility and fragmentation among the various Linux >>>>>>>>>>>> distributions.[18][19] In March 2013, de Icaza announced on >>>>>>>>>>>> his personal blog that he regularly used Mac OS X instead of >>>>>>>>>>>> Linux for desktop computing.[20]" >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> You know your operating system sucks when even one of its >>>>>>>>>>>> most important developers considers it to be unusable and >>>>>>>>>>>> adopts OS X instead. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Which is really hilarious if he cites "lack of backward >>>>>>>>>>> compatibility and fragmentation" is his reasons. Because OSX >>>>>>>>>>> is of all the OS the worst one in these regards. By a very >>>>>>>>>>> long shot. Even windows is far better in these things. Not to >>>>>>>>>>> mention linux, which is usually far better than windows in >>>>>>>>>>> backwards compatibility >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I agree with you and lack of backward compatibility is one of >>>>>>>>>> the many reasons I dislike anything Apple produces. Linux is >>>>>>>>>> only slightly better than OS X though: it's laughable how many >>>>>>>>>> applications will simply cease to work correctly because you >>>>>>>>>> updated one of the many packages it referred to >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Bullshit. Especially in linux it is extremely easy to provide >>>>>>>>> several libraries concurrently. Much easier than in both >>>>>>>>> windows and OSX >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It's _so_ hard in Windows that I can install software from the >>>>>>>> 90s or the early 2000s and know that it will work whereas I have >>>>>>>> to wrestle with dependencies in Linux. You clearly haven't used >>>>>>>> Windows since the mid-90s and just make shit up as you go along. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You can even run Windows 3.1 apps in Windows 8 fairly easily. >>>>>>>> Hell, you can use the fucking MS-DOS Executive in Windows 8. You >>>>>>>> can't do that in Linux with apps from that era. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Face it, Klöwn, Windows is better in every imaginable way. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You have no idea at all about DLL-naming problems in windows >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> Slimer is lying. You can't even run Windows XP games on later >>>>>> Windows... >>>>> >>>>> For years corporations have avoided upgrading above Windows XP >>>>> because of the nightmare of adopting their custom applications to >>>>> Vista/7/8.x -- so, yeah, "Slimer" is full of Snit. >>>> >>>> Funny enough, GTA: San Andreas and Vice City are both Windows XP >>>> games which run fine on Windows 8.1. It's too bad that Melzzzz is too >>>> much of an idiot to get them to run. >>> >>> They both run on Linux under wine no problem with platinum rating... >>> >>> As far as I know, Fallout 3 is >>>> the only one causing any sort of issues. >>>> >>> >>> On wine under Linux it runs flawlessly... >>> I have bought it when game came out ;) >>> >>> >> >> I've talked about this before. Fallout 3 is only one example of "works >> not so well with Windows 7". I've tried all the fixes myself, and still >> can't get it to run properly in Win7 64-bit. This is not for a lack of >> trying -- but with WINE on Linux, I'm good. > > 2008 called and wants their game back. > (You're in luck -- this is my laptop, which doesn't have a complete snubbery set up on it. Aren't you special?) 2008 can't have it, I paid good money for it. (Along with bazillions of other Win 7 users.) So there's stupid idea #1: "Old games are no good." Bzzzt. Wrong. > Solution 1: Play Linux games instead. It just burns you up that Linux+WINE made Fallout 3 playable, doesn't it? U Mad, bro? So there's stupid idea #2: (trying to) exclude people from playing a game because of operating system choice -- even when alternate systems are quite capable of doing the job -- and in this case, _better_ than Windows 7. Ooo, does that sting yet? > Solution 2: Run the game under the version of the operating system it > was designed for, Windows XP I believe. Bzzzt. The common argument from the wintrolls is that Win7 supports legacy applications better than other OS's. But in the two examples I gave, the legacy apps were supported better _on Linux with WINE_. Strike three, you're outtathere! > > Try telling IBM you need to run some System 370 program from 1975 on > your EC12 machine and see how far you get. > > What a stupid analogy. Fallout 3 is a classic, and very well loved in the gaming community -- I suggest you try it. That is...IF YOU CAN. rofl! Finally, I note that talk of 16-bit apps and sound woes are missing from your missive. Did you not have anything clueful to contribute there, either? -- -v It was all so different before everything changed.
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