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Linux PC Upgrades

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First post2012-05-12 00:06 +0100
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  Linux PC Upgrades 7 <email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_com@enemygadgets.com> - 2012-05-12 00:06 +0100
    Re: Linux PC Upgrades DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2012-05-11 19:52 -0400
      Re: Linux PC Upgrades Rex Ballard <rex.ballard@gmail.com> - 2012-05-15 12:34 -0700
    Re: Linux PC Upgrades Homer <usenet@slated.org> - 2012-05-12 04:42 +0100
      Re: Linux PC Upgrades Foster <frankfoster50@yahoo.com> - 2012-05-12 08:22 -0400
      Re: Linux PC Upgrades 7 <email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_com@enemygadgets.com> - 2012-05-12 20:14 +0100
        Re: Linux PC Upgrades Foster <frankfoster50@yahoo.com> - 2012-05-12 15:30 -0400
        Re: Linux PC Upgrades Homer <usenet@slated.org> - 2012-05-12 20:45 +0100
          Re: Linux PC Upgrades Foster <frankfoster50@yahoo.com> - 2012-05-12 15:52 -0400
        Re: Linux PC Upgrades Chris Ahlstrom <ahlstromc@xzoozy.com> - 2012-05-12 16:44 -0400
          Re: Linux PC Upgrades Foster <frankfoster50@yahoo.com> - 2012-05-12 16:44 -0400
        Re: Linux PC Upgrades Nix <nix-razor-pit@esperi.org.uk> - 2012-05-13 00:25 +0100
          Re: Linux PC Upgrades 7 <email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_com@enemygadgets.com> - 2012-05-13 01:05 +0100
            Re: Linux PC Upgrades DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2012-05-12 22:31 -0400
              Re: Linux PC Upgrades 7 <email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_com@enemygadgets.com> - 2012-05-13 10:45 +0100
                Re: Linux PC Upgrades Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2012-05-13 12:54 +0200
                Re: Linux PC Upgrades DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2012-05-13 11:40 -0400
                  Re: Linux PC Upgrades Foster <frankfoster50@yahoo.com> - 2012-05-13 11:42 -0400
                    Re: Linux PC Upgrades DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2012-05-13 11:46 -0400
                      Re: Linux PC Upgrades Foster <frankfoster50@yahoo.com> - 2012-05-13 11:54 -0400
                    Re: Linux PC Upgrades Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2012-05-13 19:35 +0200
            Re: Linux PC Upgrades Nix <nix-razor-pit@esperi.org.uk> - 2012-05-13 20:04 +0100
              Re: Linux PC Upgrades 7 <email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_com@enemygadgets.com> - 2012-05-14 22:45 +0100
                Re: Linux PC Upgrades Nix <nix-razor-pit@esperi.org.uk> - 2012-05-15 00:54 +0100
                  Re: Linux PC Upgrades DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2012-05-14 20:12 -0400
                    Re: Linux PC Upgrades Foster <frankfoster50@yahoo.com> - 2012-05-15 09:49 -0400
                      Re: Linux PC Upgrades Nix <nix-razor-pit@esperi.org.uk> - 2012-05-15 16:51 +0100
                        Re: Linux PC Upgrades chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2012-05-15 11:06 -0500
                        Re: Linux PC Upgrades Chris Ahlstrom <ahlstromc@xzoozy.com> - 2012-05-15 12:36 -0400
                          Re: Linux PC Upgrades GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2012-05-15 12:01 -0600
                          Re: Linux PC Upgrades Foster <frankfoster50@yahoo.com> - 2012-05-15 14:53 -0400
                            Re: Linux PC Upgrades DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2012-05-15 15:58 -0400
                              Re: Linux PC Upgrades Foster <frankfoster50@yahoo.com> - 2012-05-15 19:29 -0400
                          Re: Linux PC Upgrades Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2012-05-16 14:14 +0200
                  Re: Linux PC Upgrades Davey <davey@example.invalid> - 2012-05-15 01:22 +0100
                    Re: Linux PC Upgrades Nix <nix-razor-pit@esperi.org.uk> - 2012-05-15 14:18 +0100
                    Re: Linux PC Upgrades chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2012-05-15 16:13 +0100
                      Re: Linux PC Upgrades chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2012-05-15 10:26 -0500
                      Re: Linux PC Upgrades Roger Gammans <roger@backslashat.org> - 2012-05-15 22:59 +0100
            [OT] glass flow [ was: Linux PC Upgrades] Alec Ross <alec@arlross.demon.co.uk> - 2012-05-13 22:01 +0100
              Re: [OT] glass flow [ was: Linux PC Upgrades] Chris Ahlstrom <ahlstromc@xzoozy.com> - 2012-05-13 20:57 -0400
                Re: [OT] glass flow [ was: Linux PC Upgrades] Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-05-13 18:51 -0700
                Re: [OT] glass flow [ was: Linux PC Upgrades] High Plains Thumper <hpt@invalid.invalid> - 2012-05-13 22:53 -0600
                  Re: [OT] glass flow [ was: Linux PC Upgrades] Chris Ahlstrom <ahlstromc@xzoozy.com> - 2012-05-14 06:15 -0400
                  Re: [OT] glass flow [ was: Linux PC Upgrades] Folderol <folderol@ukfsn.org> - 2012-05-14 19:47 +0100
                Re: [OT] glass flow [ was: Linux PC Upgrades] Dev <spam-addy@no.spam.invalid> - 2012-05-14 08:40 +0100
                  Re: [OT] glass flow [ was: Linux PC Upgrades] Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2012-05-14 09:59 +0200
                    Re: [OT] glass flow [ was: Linux PC Upgrades] Folderol <folderol@ukfsn.org> - 2012-05-14 19:43 +0100
                    Re: [OT] glass flow [ was: Linux PC Upgrades] Dev <spam-addy@no.spam.invalid> - 2012-05-14 21:05 +0100
                  Re: [OT] glass flow [ was: Linux PC Upgrades] Anthony Frost <Vulch@vulch.org> - 2012-05-14 10:39 +0000
                    Re: [OT] glass flow [ was: Linux PC Upgrades] Dev <spam-addy@no.spam.invalid> - 2012-05-14 12:27 +0100
          Re: Linux PC Upgrades chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2012-05-14 07:44 -0500
            Re: Linux PC Upgrades Nix <nix-razor-pit@esperi.org.uk> - 2012-05-14 15:36 +0100
              Re: Linux PC Upgrades Homer <usenet@slated.org> - 2012-05-14 21:57 +0100
      Re: Linux PC Upgrades -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2012-05-12 17:21 -0700
    Re: Linux PC Upgrades Foster <frankfoster50@yahoo.com> - 2012-05-12 08:20 -0400
      Re: Linux PC Upgrades GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2012-05-12 15:17 -0600
        Re: Linux PC Upgrades JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2012-05-14 21:17 -0500
          Re: Linux PC Upgrades GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2012-05-14 23:09 -0600
            Re: Linux PC Upgrades Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2012-05-15 09:27 +0200
              Re: Linux PC Upgrades William Poaster <wp@induh-vidual.net> - 2012-05-15 10:33 +0100
              Re: Linux PC Upgrades GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2012-05-15 12:03 -0600
                Re: Linux PC Upgrades Foster <frankfoster50@yahoo.com> - 2012-05-15 14:54 -0400
                  Re: Linux PC Upgrades GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2012-05-15 13:45 -0600
                Re: Linux PC Upgrades Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2012-05-15 21:11 +0200
                  Re: Linux PC Upgrades GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2012-05-15 13:49 -0600
                    Re: Linux PC Upgrades Nix <nix-razor-pit@esperi.org.uk> - 2012-05-15 22:50 +0100
                      Re: Linux PC Upgrades GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2012-05-15 17:00 -0600
                        Re: Linux PC Upgrades Nix <nix-razor-pit@esperi.org.uk> - 2012-05-16 14:39 +0100
                  Re: Linux PC Upgrades chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2012-05-15 14:57 -0500
                    Re: Linux PC Upgrades GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2012-05-15 17:01 -0600
                  Re: Linux PC Upgrades Foster <frankfoster50@yahoo.com> - 2012-05-15 19:25 -0400
                    Re: Linux PC Upgrades GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2012-05-16 11:45 -0600
                      Re: Linux PC Upgrades JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2012-05-18 17:24 -0500
                        Re: Linux PC Upgrades GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2012-05-18 20:09 -0600
                          Re: Linux PC Upgrades JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2012-05-23 13:49 -0500
                            Re: Linux PC Upgrades GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2012-05-23 13:23 -0600
                              GreyCloud tries to rewrite history. JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2012-05-23 15:34 -0500
                                Re: GreyCloud tries to rewrite history. GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2012-05-23 16:58 -0600
                                  Re: GreyCloud tries to rewrite history. Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2012-05-23 23:55 +0000
                                    Re: GreyCloud tries to rewrite history. Foster <frankfoster50@yahoo.com> - 2012-05-23 20:32 -0400
                                    Re: GreyCloud tries to rewrite history. GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2012-05-23 20:48 -0600
                                    Re: GreyCloud tries to rewrite history. Andy Leighton <andyl@azaal.plus.com> - 2012-05-24 03:20 -0500
                                      Re: GreyCloud tries to rewrite history. William Poaster <wp@induh-vidual.net> - 2012-05-24 10:14 +0100
                                        Re: GreyCloud tries to rewrite history. GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2012-05-24 11:12 -0600
                                      Re: GreyCloud tries to rewrite history. Colin Brough <Colin.Brough@blueyonder.invalid> - 2012-05-24 13:44 +0100
                                        Re: GreyCloud tries to rewrite history. Andy Leighton <andyl@azaal.plus.com> - 2012-05-24 09:10 -0500
                                        Re: GreyCloud tries to rewrite history. JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2012-05-24 13:01 -0500
                                          Re: GreyCloud tries to rewrite history. GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2012-05-24 15:16 -0600
                                            Re: GreyCloud tries to rewrite history. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2012-05-25 00:31 +0200
                                              Re: GreyCloud tries to rewrite history. Foster <frankfoster50@yahoo.com> - 2012-05-24 18:35 -0400
                                                Re: GreyCloud tries to rewrite history. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2012-05-25 01:07 +0200
                                                  Re: GreyCloud tries to rewrite history. Foster <frankfoster50@yahoo.com> - 2012-05-24 19:11 -0400
                                                    Re: GreyCloud tries to rewrite history. GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2012-05-24 19:22 -0600
                                                    Re: GreyCloud tries to rewrite history. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-05-24 18:33 -0700
                                                  Re: GreyCloud tries to rewrite history. GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2012-05-24 19:17 -0600
                                                  Re: GreyCloud tries to rewrite history. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-05-24 18:34 -0700
                                                    Re: GreyCloud tries to rewrite history. GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2012-05-25 12:26 -0600
                                                      Re: GreyCloud tries to rewrite history. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-05-25 11:37 -0700
                                                Re: GreyCloud tries to rewrite history. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-05-24 18:32 -0700
                                              Re: GreyCloud tries to rewrite history. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-05-24 16:13 -0700
                                                Re: GreyCloud tries to rewrite history. GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2012-05-24 19:22 -0600
                                                  Re: GreyCloud tries to rewrite history. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-05-24 18:29 -0700
                                              Re: GreyCloud tries to rewrite history. GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2012-05-24 19:16 -0600
                                              Re: GreyCloud tries to rewrite history. JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2012-05-25 09:22 -0500
                                                Re: GreyCloud tries to rewrite history. GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2012-05-25 12:28 -0600
                                      Re: GreyCloud tries to rewrite history. tinnews@isbd.co.uk - 2012-05-24 15:07 +0100
                              Re: Linux PC Upgrades Rex Ballard <rex.ballard@gmail.com> - 2012-05-25 02:21 -0700
                                Re: Linux PC Upgrades JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2012-05-25 09:31 -0500
                                  Re: Linux PC Upgrades Homer <usenet@slated.org> - 2012-05-25 23:34 +0100
                                    Re: Linux PC Upgrades TomB <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com> - 2012-05-26 05:48 +0000
                                      Re: Linux PC Upgrades Foster <frankfoster50@yahoo.com> - 2012-05-26 08:35 -0400
                                        Re: Linux PC Upgrades GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2012-05-26 11:34 -0600
                                      Re: Linux PC Upgrades JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2012-05-26 15:54 -0500
                                      Re: Linux PC Upgrades Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-05-26 14:51 -0700
                                      Re: Linux PC Upgrades Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2012-05-27 11:17 +0200
                                        Re: Linux PC Upgrades Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2012-05-27 11:31 +0200
                                          Re: Linux PC Upgrades Chris Ahlstrom <ahlstromc@xzoozy.com> - 2012-05-27 08:43 -0400
                                            Re: Linux PC Upgrades Homer <usenet@slated.org> - 2012-05-27 16:49 +0100
                                              Re: Linux PC Upgrades Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-05-27 11:29 -0700
                                        Re: Linux PC Upgrades TomB <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com> - 2012-05-27 16:50 +0000
                                          Re: Linux PC Upgrades Chris Ahlstrom <ahlstromc@xzoozy.com> - 2012-05-27 13:35 -0400
                Re: Linux PC Upgrades Nix <nix-razor-pit@esperi.org.uk> - 2012-05-15 22:23 +0100
                  Re: Linux PC Upgrades GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2012-05-15 17:03 -0600
                    Re: Linux PC Upgrades Nix <nix-razor-pit@esperi.org.uk> - 2012-05-16 14:40 +0100
                      Re: Linux PC Upgrades GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2012-05-16 11:46 -0600
                    Re: Linux PC Upgrades JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2012-05-18 17:25 -0500
                      Re: Linux PC Upgrades GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2012-05-18 20:10 -0600
                        Re: Linux PC Upgrades Foster <frankfoster50@yahoo.com> - 2012-05-18 22:16 -0400
                          Re: Linux PC Upgrades Folderol <folderol@ukfsn.org> - 2012-05-19 17:41 +0100
                            Re: Linux PC Upgrades Chris Ahlstrom <ahlstromc@xzoozy.com> - 2012-05-19 13:41 -0400
                        Re: Linux PC Upgrades JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2012-05-23 13:50 -0500
                          Re: Linux PC Upgrades GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2012-05-23 13:24 -0600
                            Re: Linux PC Upgrades DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2012-05-23 15:25 -0400
                              Re: Linux PC Upgrades Foster <frankfoster50@yahoo.com> - 2012-05-23 15:51 -0400
                                Re: Linux PC Upgrades JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2012-05-23 15:30 -0500
                                  Re: Linux PC Upgrades DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2012-05-23 17:08 -0400
                                  Re: Linux PC Upgrades GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2012-05-23 17:00 -0600
                              Re: Linux PC Upgrades GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2012-05-23 14:48 -0600
                              DFS lies again JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2012-05-23 15:30 -0500
                                Re: DFS lies again DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2012-05-23 17:06 -0400
                                  Where's the lie, JED? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2012-05-23 20:17 -0400
                                    Re: Where's the lie, JED? Foster <frankfoster50@yahoo.com> - 2012-05-23 20:35 -0400
                                      Re: Where's the lie, JED? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2012-05-23 20:39 -0400
                                        Re: Where's the lie, JED? Foster <frankfoster50@yahoo.com> - 2012-05-23 20:43 -0400
                                    Re: Where's the lie, JED? GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2012-05-23 20:49 -0600
                                      Re: Where's the lie, JED? Foster <frankfoster50@yahoo.com> - 2012-05-23 22:55 -0400
                                      Re: Where's the lie, JED? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2012-05-24 08:10 -0400
                                        Re: Where's the lie, JED? Foster <frankfoster50@yahoo.com> - 2012-05-24 08:35 -0400
                                        Re: Where's the lie, JED? GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2012-05-24 11:14 -0600
                                  Re: DFS lies again Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2012-05-26 07:40 +0200
                                Re: DFS lies again GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2012-05-23 17:02 -0600
                      Re: Linux PC Upgrades DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2012-05-18 22:54 -0400
                        Re: Linux PC Upgrades JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2012-05-23 13:51 -0500
                          Re: Linux PC Upgrades GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2012-05-23 13:25 -0600
                            The prince of lies tries to accuse others. JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2012-05-23 15:31 -0500
                              Re: The prince of lies tries to accuse others. GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2012-05-23 17:02 -0600
                    Re: Linux PC Upgrades Nix <nix-razor-pit@esperi.org.uk> - 2012-05-19 12:14 +0100
                      Re: Linux PC Upgrades GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2012-05-19 11:51 -0600
              Re: Linux PC Upgrades Gregory Shearman <ZekeGregory@netscape.net> - 2012-05-24 13:32 +0000
    Re: Linux PC Upgrades Curlytop <pvstownsend.zyx.abc@ntlworld.com> - 2012-05-14 20:52 +0100

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#109931

FromTomB <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com>
Date2012-05-27 16:50 +0000
Message-ID<20120527184908.939@usenet.drumscum.be>
In reply to#109812
On 2012-05-27, the following emerged from the brain of Hadron:

8<

> Who said who had to have "issues"? But it IS slow in comparison to
> competing platforms. My desktop renders fast enough with X. But
> there is no comparison to Win7 when I need to boot it for iPhone
> config/backup.

I'm sorry, but that's bullshit. On my Acer laptop GNU/Linux with a
full composited KDE4 desktop runs *a lot* smoother than Windows 7 on
the same machine.

This is on Intel graphics by the way.

-- 
There's only one way to have a happy marriage and as soon as I learn
what it is I'll get married again.
		-- Clint Eastwood

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#109946

FromChris Ahlstrom <ahlstromc@xzoozy.com>
Date2012-05-27 13:35 -0400
Message-ID<jptojv$n8p$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#109931
After swilling some grog, TomB belched this bit o' wisdom:

> On 2012-05-27, the following emerged from the brain of Hadron:
>
> 8<
>
>> Who said who had to have "issues"? But it IS slow in comparison to
>> competing platforms. My desktop renders fast enough with X. But
>> there is no comparison to Win7 when I need to boot it for iPhone
>> config/backup.
>
> I'm sorry, but that's bullshit. On my Acer laptop GNU/Linux with a
> full composited KDE4 desktop runs *a lot* smoother than Windows 7 on
> the same machine.
>
> This is on Intel graphics by the way.

And Linux on Intel graphics is (was?) supposed to be slower than on
Windows.

Nvidia?  Performance measures were pretty close between Linux and Win 7
on this one.

Anecdotally, running compositing on KDE on a 2 Gb Celeron machine was
almost as peppy as running compositingon Windows 7 on a quad-core AMD
machine (both machines here at home).

-- 
I dont agree. But the reason is that I'm a developer of various things
which means a lot of screen swapping (xmonad workspaces), a lot of ssh
and machine syncing (unison), a lot of mysql tweaking (emacs), php and
xhtml (amacs) and a lot of C code debugging (again emacs & gdb). I find
the debian gnome/xmonad desktop to be far superior to anything I used on
Windows but ONLY because I'm not really an IDE type and like the way
this toolset I use fits together. Any IDE I tried under Linux sucks
donkeys dicks. Half arsed, incomplete and unsupported half the
time. Eclipse is maybe an exception but what a waste of resources. Give
me a good Emacs library any day. I like the way I control service/
daemons, the way I talk to mpd for music and radio, or switch mplayer to
a different workspace while watching movies. (Working from home has the
advantage that the TV can be used for movies from the development
machine). It took me a while, but I know this system back to front now
and not even a black screen at boot worries me any more (say after
another botched video upgrade). This system is rock solid. Pity I cant
say the same about a lot of the applications that run on it. KDE apps in
general I can not abide - inconsistent crap with Kaffeine being the one
good one. OO is sluggish and, I find, buggy and certainly not any good
for handling docs sent in in MS Office format especially if one wishes
to adapt them and return them. Amarok I dumped in favour of mpd and an
emacs based interface to it. 1337!
   -- "Hadron" <gomq4o$89c$1@hadronquark.motzarella.org>

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#107011

FromNix <nix-razor-pit@esperi.org.uk>
Date2012-05-15 22:23 +0100
Message-ID<87sjf1jfzf.fsf@spindle.srvr.nix>
In reply to#106937
On 15 May 2012, GreyCloud uttered the following:
> Not till you tie in X11, a networked paradigm. I've seen how slow X11
> is on a 486. And to get the fonts cleaned up requires a stronger cpu.

You do realise that X11 was designed and run and was fast on machines
that make 486s look like supercomputers?

(How you can estimate the CPU requirements of KDE while excluding X11 is
beyond me. It requires substantial research effort -- on the order of
writing your own windowing system -- just to distinguish between delay
caused by things KDE would need to do anyway but is getting the X server
to do on its behalf, and delay caused by something specific to X11. I
don't believe you have done this.)

KDE4 has substantial CPU requirements above and beyond anything to do
with X, in any case.

>>> Of course if you want an older distro, along with the jagged fonts, that
>>> is the users choice.
>>
>> What "jagged fonts"? About what era are you babbling? There were not "jagged
>> fonts" since several years
>
> Someone posted the tiny linux url and the fonts were back to the old jaggies.

Really? Tiny Linux is using core X fonts, or has compiled antialiasing
out of FreeType? Seems very unlikely to me. What are they doing, using
Gtk1 or something terrifyingly obsolete like that?

-- 
NULL && (void)

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#107044

FromGreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com>
Date2012-05-15 17:03 -0600
Message-ID<1JidnSnfSbMqfS_SnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@bresnan.com>
In reply to#107011
On 5/15/2012 3:23 PM, Nix wrote:
> On 15 May 2012, GreyCloud uttered the following:
>> Not till you tie in X11, a networked paradigm. I've seen how slow X11
>> is on a 486. And to get the fonts cleaned up requires a stronger cpu.
>
> You do realise that X11 was designed and run and was fast on machines
> that make 486s look like supercomputers?
>
> (How you can estimate the CPU requirements of KDE while excluding X11 is
> beyond me. It requires substantial research effort -- on the order of
> writing your own windowing system -- just to distinguish between delay
> caused by things KDE would need to do anyway but is getting the X server
> to do on its behalf, and delay caused by something specific to X11. I
> don't believe you have done this.)
>
> KDE4 has substantial CPU requirements above and beyond anything to do
> with X, in any case.
>
>>>> Of course if you want an older distro, along with the jagged fonts, that
>>>> is the users choice.
>>>
>>> What "jagged fonts"? About what era are you babbling? There were not "jagged
>>> fonts" since several years
>>
>> Someone posted the tiny linux url and the fonts were back to the old jaggies.
>
> Really? Tiny Linux is using core X fonts, or has compiled antialiasing
> out of FreeType? Seems very unlikely to me. What are they doing, using
> Gtk1 or something terrifyingly obsolete like that?
>

Didn't you look at the screen shot??  The fonts are jagged.
So what good is it?

Yet you look at an iPhone display and everything is as sharp and clear 
as you can get it.

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#107170

FromNix <nix-razor-pit@esperi.org.uk>
Date2012-05-16 14:40 +0100
Message-ID<87vcjwgs6n.fsf@spindle.srvr.nix>
In reply to#107044
On 16 May 2012, GreyCloud outgrape:

> On 5/15/2012 3:23 PM, Nix wrote:
>> Really? Tiny Linux is using core X fonts, or has compiled antialiasing
>> out of FreeType? Seems very unlikely to me. What are they doing, using
>> Gtk1 or something terrifyingly obsolete like that?
>
> Didn't you look at the screen shot??  The fonts are jagged.

You never bothered to provide a link to a screenshot.

> Yet you look at an iPhone display and everything is as sharp and clear as you can get it.

iPhone displays have a far, far higher pixel density, for starters.
Nothing the graphical environment can do is going to change attributes
of the hardware like that.

-- 
NULL && (void)

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#107215

FromGreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com>
Date2012-05-16 11:46 -0600
Message-ID<q72dnZUOD72adS7SnZ2dnUVZ_g6dnZ2d@bresnan.com>
In reply to#107170
On 5/16/2012 7:40 AM, Nix wrote:
> On 16 May 2012, GreyCloud outgrape:
>
>> On 5/15/2012 3:23 PM, Nix wrote:
>>> Really? Tiny Linux is using core X fonts, or has compiled antialiasing
>>> out of FreeType? Seems very unlikely to me. What are they doing, using
>>> Gtk1 or something terrifyingly obsolete like that?
>>
>> Didn't you look at the screen shot??  The fonts are jagged.
>
> You never bothered to provide a link to a screenshot.
>

But the OP did.
That is why I responded to it.  Jaggies.

>> Yet you look at an iPhone display and everything is as sharp and clear as you can get it.
>
> iPhone displays have a far, far higher pixel density, for starters.
> Nothing the graphical environment can do is going to change attributes
> of the hardware like that.
>

Of course, and you get what you pay for.

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#107768

FromJEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet>
Date2012-05-18 17:25 -0500
Message-ID<slrnjrdj3j.kuq.jedi@nomad.mishnet>
In reply to#107044
On 2012-05-15, GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> wrote:
> On 5/15/2012 3:23 PM, Nix wrote:
>> On 15 May 2012, GreyCloud uttered the following:
>>> Not till you tie in X11, a networked paradigm. I've seen how slow X11
>>> is on a 486. And to get the fonts cleaned up requires a stronger cpu.
>>
>> You do realise that X11 was designed and run and was fast on machines
>> that make 486s look like supercomputers?
>>
>> (How you can estimate the CPU requirements of KDE while excluding X11 is
>> beyond me. It requires substantial research effort -- on the order of
>> writing your own windowing system -- just to distinguish between delay
>> caused by things KDE would need to do anyway but is getting the X server
>> to do on its behalf, and delay caused by something specific to X11. I
>> don't believe you have done this.)
>>
>> KDE4 has substantial CPU requirements above and beyond anything to do
>> with X, in any case.
>>
>>>>> Of course if you want an older distro, along with the jagged fonts, that
>>>>> is the users choice.
>>>>
>>>> What "jagged fonts"? About what era are you babbling? There were not "jagged
>>>> fonts" since several years
>>>
>>> Someone posted the tiny linux url and the fonts were back to the old jaggies.
>>
>> Really? Tiny Linux is using core X fonts, or has compiled antialiasing
>> out of FreeType? Seems very unlikely to me. What are they doing, using
>> Gtk1 or something terrifyingly obsolete like that?
>>
>
> Didn't you look at the screen shot??  The fonts are jagged.
> So what good is it?

    Win7 is horrible about jaggies. With all the whining that you losers
do about fonts in Linux I would have expected it to be much better than
it actually turns out that it is.

    You sound like you are reading from a 10 year old FUD playbook.

-- 

   cat /dev/video0 > tivo-sucks.mpg &                                 |||
   mplayer tivo-sucks.mpg                                            / | \

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#107812

FromGreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com>
Date2012-05-18 20:10 -0600
Message-ID<EoCdnSovhI-pnCrSnZ2dnUVZ_hudnZ2d@bresnan.com>
In reply to#107768
On 5/18/2012 4:25 PM, JEDIDIAH wrote:
> On 2012-05-15, GreyCloud<mist@cumulus.com>  wrote:
>> On 5/15/2012 3:23 PM, Nix wrote:
>>> On 15 May 2012, GreyCloud uttered the following:
>>>> Not till you tie in X11, a networked paradigm. I've seen how slow X11
>>>> is on a 486. And to get the fonts cleaned up requires a stronger cpu.
>>>
>>> You do realise that X11 was designed and run and was fast on machines
>>> that make 486s look like supercomputers?
>>>
>>> (How you can estimate the CPU requirements of KDE while excluding X11 is
>>> beyond me. It requires substantial research effort -- on the order of
>>> writing your own windowing system -- just to distinguish between delay
>>> caused by things KDE would need to do anyway but is getting the X server
>>> to do on its behalf, and delay caused by something specific to X11. I
>>> don't believe you have done this.)
>>>
>>> KDE4 has substantial CPU requirements above and beyond anything to do
>>> with X, in any case.
>>>
>>>>>> Of course if you want an older distro, along with the jagged fonts, that
>>>>>> is the users choice.
>>>>>
>>>>> What "jagged fonts"? About what era are you babbling? There were not "jagged
>>>>> fonts" since several years
>>>>
>>>> Someone posted the tiny linux url and the fonts were back to the old jaggies.
>>>
>>> Really? Tiny Linux is using core X fonts, or has compiled antialiasing
>>> out of FreeType? Seems very unlikely to me. What are they doing, using
>>> Gtk1 or something terrifyingly obsolete like that?
>>>
>>
>> Didn't you look at the screen shot??  The fonts are jagged.
>> So what good is it?
>
>      Win7 is horrible about jaggies. With all the whining that you losers
> do about fonts in Linux I would have expected it to be much better than
> it actually turns out that it is.
>
>      You sound like you are reading from a 10 year old FUD playbook.
>
No, obviously you haven't run win7.
It is even a tad bit sharper and more defined than Apples displays.  But 
only just a bit.

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#107817

FromFoster <frankfoster50@yahoo.com>
Date2012-05-18 22:16 -0400
Message-ID<ghijyhrri2lf$.hlac8gybon0o.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#107812
On Fri, 18 May 2012 20:10:53 -0600, GreyCloud wrote:

> On 5/18/2012 4:25 PM, JEDIDIAH wrote:
>> On 2012-05-15, GreyCloud<mist@cumulus.com>  wrote:
>>> On 5/15/2012 3:23 PM, Nix wrote:
>>>> On 15 May 2012, GreyCloud uttered the following:
>>>>> Not till you tie in X11, a networked paradigm. I've seen how slow X11
>>>>> is on a 486. And to get the fonts cleaned up requires a stronger cpu.
>>>>
>>>> You do realise that X11 was designed and run and was fast on machines
>>>> that make 486s look like supercomputers?
>>>>
>>>> (How you can estimate the CPU requirements of KDE while excluding X11 is
>>>> beyond me. It requires substantial research effort -- on the order of
>>>> writing your own windowing system -- just to distinguish between delay
>>>> caused by things KDE would need to do anyway but is getting the X server
>>>> to do on its behalf, and delay caused by something specific to X11. I
>>>> don't believe you have done this.)
>>>>
>>>> KDE4 has substantial CPU requirements above and beyond anything to do
>>>> with X, in any case.
>>>>
>>>>>>> Of course if you want an older distro, along with the jagged fonts, that
>>>>>>> is the users choice.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What "jagged fonts"? About what era are you babbling? There were not "jagged
>>>>>> fonts" since several years
>>>>>
>>>>> Someone posted the tiny linux url and the fonts were back to the old jaggies.
>>>>
>>>> Really? Tiny Linux is using core X fonts, or has compiled antialiasing
>>>> out of FreeType? Seems very unlikely to me. What are they doing, using
>>>> Gtk1 or something terrifyingly obsolete like that?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Didn't you look at the screen shot??  The fonts are jagged.
>>> So what good is it?
>>
>>      Win7 is horrible about jaggies. With all the whining that you losers
>> do about fonts in Linux I would have expected it to be much better than
>> it actually turns out that it is.
>>
>>      You sound like you are reading from a 10 year old FUD playbook.
>>
> No, obviously you haven't run win7.
> It is even a tad bit sharper and more defined than Apples displays.  But 
> only just a bit.

He hasn't or he wouldn't be saying that and making an ass of
himself.
Personally, I think Apple sets the standard but Windows 7 is really
good, no jagged fonts.

Linux?

Bwaaaaaa!

Looks like something from Windows 98.

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#107978

FromFolderol <folderol@ukfsn.org>
Date2012-05-19 17:41 +0100
Message-ID<20120519174147.20279e80@debian>
In reply to#107817
On Fri, 18 May 2012 22:16:28 -0400
Foster <frankfoster50@yahoo.com> wrote:

> He hasn't or he wouldn't be saying that and making an ass of
> himself.
> Personally, I think Apple sets the standard but Windows 7 is really
> good, no jagged fonts.
> 
> Linux?
> 
> Bwaaaaaa!
> 
> Looks like something from Windows 98.

And the leader of the pack is...

The Acorn Archimedes, which from 1992 had full anti-aliasing as well as hinting.
For pure document processing it *still* gives the latecomers a run for their
money.

-- 
Will J G

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#107997

FromChris Ahlstrom <ahlstromc@xzoozy.com>
Date2012-05-19 13:41 -0400
Message-ID<jp8lv4$j47$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#107978
After swilling some grog, Folderol belched this bit o' wisdom:

> On Fri, 18 May 2012 22:16:28 -0400
> Foster <frankfoster50@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> He hasn't or he wouldn't be saying that and making an ass of
>> himself.
>> Personally, I think Apple sets the standard but Windows 7 is really
>> good, no jagged fonts.
>> 
>> Linux?
>> 
>> Bwaaaaaa!
>> 
>> Looks like something from Windows 98.

Obviously, this clown has never run Compiz or KDE.

> And the leader of the pack is...
>
> The Acorn Archimedes, which from 1992 had full anti-aliasing as well
> as hinting.  For pure document processing it *still* gives the
> latecomers a run for their money.

All OS's have good anti-aliasing these days.  It's stock technology.

-- 
A chance for Liarnut and Peter to contribute perchance? I would love to
see Ahlstrom telling Linus that ptr->field is ok when ptr is NULL. (For
those that don't know, the Linux kernel is in C not C++).
But wait! What's this?
Huh? Security holes? Say it aint so!
Still, all the COLA freetards can pick up the reigns. Right guys? Erm
Guys??? Guys?!?!?!?!
<sound of echo as doors slam and freetards slink back to their basements
and torrent downloads>
   -- "Hadron", a bona fide Usenet crank <h4s8e5$qps$1@news.eternal-september.org>

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#108793

FromJEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet>
Date2012-05-23 13:50 -0500
Message-ID<slrnjrqcbp.b5n.jedi@nomad.mishnet>
In reply to#107812
On 2012-05-19, GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> wrote:
> On 5/18/2012 4:25 PM, JEDIDIAH wrote:
>> On 2012-05-15, GreyCloud<mist@cumulus.com>  wrote:
>>> On 5/15/2012 3:23 PM, Nix wrote:
>>>> On 15 May 2012, GreyCloud uttered the following:
[deletia]
>>>
>>> Didn't you look at the screen shot??  The fonts are jagged.
>>> So what good is it?
>>
>>      Win7 is horrible about jaggies. With all the whining that you losers
>> do about fonts in Linux I would have expected it to be much better than
>> it actually turns out that it is.
>>
>>      You sound like you are reading from a 10 year old FUD playbook.
>>
> No, obviously you haven't run win7.

   When confronted with an inconvenient truth, you create a fantasy land for yourself.

-- 
    ...of course if you are forced against your will to use Windows in    |||
the day time your bound to have a lot to vent about in the evening.      / | \

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#108811

FromGreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com>
Date2012-05-23 13:24 -0600
Message-ID<MMqdnZJr7OrnpCDSnZ2dnUVZ_qednZ2d@bresnan.com>
In reply to#108793
On 5/23/2012 12:50 PM, JEDIDIAH wrote:
> On 2012-05-19, GreyCloud<mist@cumulus.com>  wrote:
>> On 5/18/2012 4:25 PM, JEDIDIAH wrote:
>>> On 2012-05-15, GreyCloud<mist@cumulus.com>   wrote:
>>>> On 5/15/2012 3:23 PM, Nix wrote:
>>>>> On 15 May 2012, GreyCloud uttered the following:
> [deletia]
>>>>
>>>> Didn't you look at the screen shot??  The fonts are jagged.
>>>> So what good is it?
>>>
>>>       Win7 is horrible about jaggies. With all the whining that you losers
>>> do about fonts in Linux I would have expected it to be much better than
>>> it actually turns out that it is.
>>>
>>>       You sound like you are reading from a 10 year old FUD playbook.
>>>
>> No, obviously you haven't run win7.
>
>     When confronted with an inconvenient truth, you create a fantasy land for yourself.
>
Guffaw!!!  The only fantasy land is between your ears... and it is a 
wasteland.

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#108813

FromDFS <nospam@dfs.com>
Date2012-05-23 15:25 -0400
Message-ID<jpjdjm$n5e$5@dont-email.me>
In reply to#108811
On 5/23/2012 3:24 PM, GreyCloud wrote:
> On 5/23/2012 12:50 PM, JEDIDIAH wrote:
>> On 2012-05-19, GreyCloud<mist@cumulus.com> wrote:
>>> On 5/18/2012 4:25 PM, JEDIDIAH wrote:
>>>> On 2012-05-15, GreyCloud<mist@cumulus.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 5/15/2012 3:23 PM, Nix wrote:
>>>>>> On 15 May 2012, GreyCloud uttered the following:
>> [deletia]
>>>>>
>>>>> Didn't you look at the screen shot?? The fonts are jagged.
>>>>> So what good is it?
>>>>
>>>> Win7 is horrible about jaggies. With all the whining that you losers
>>>> do about fonts in Linux I would have expected it to be much better than
>>>> it actually turns out that it is.
>>>>
>>>> You sound like you are reading from a 10 year old FUD playbook.
>>>>
>>> No, obviously you haven't run win7.
>>
>> When confronted with an inconvenient truth, you create a fantasy land
>> for yourself.
>>
> Guffaw!!! The only fantasy land is between your ears... and it is a
> wasteland.


Did you see JED's classic:  "sudo is not a Unix thing or a Linux thing"?

LMAO!

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#108833

FromFoster <frankfoster50@yahoo.com>
Date2012-05-23 15:51 -0400
Message-ID<5xxbsglfojle.86bsegaehuz5$.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#108813
On Wed, 23 May 2012 15:25:40 -0400, DFS wrote:

> On 5/23/2012 3:24 PM, GreyCloud wrote:
>> On 5/23/2012 12:50 PM, JEDIDIAH wrote:
>>> On 2012-05-19, GreyCloud<mist@cumulus.com> wrote:
>>>> On 5/18/2012 4:25 PM, JEDIDIAH wrote:
>>>>> On 2012-05-15, GreyCloud<mist@cumulus.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/15/2012 3:23 PM, Nix wrote:
>>>>>>> On 15 May 2012, GreyCloud uttered the following:
>>> [deletia]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Didn't you look at the screen shot?? The fonts are jagged.
>>>>>> So what good is it?
>>>>>
>>>>> Win7 is horrible about jaggies. With all the whining that you losers
>>>>> do about fonts in Linux I would have expected it to be much better than
>>>>> it actually turns out that it is.
>>>>>
>>>>> You sound like you are reading from a 10 year old FUD playbook.
>>>>>
>>>> No, obviously you haven't run win7.
>>>
>>> When confronted with an inconvenient truth, you create a fantasy land
>>> for yourself.
>>>
>> Guffaw!!! The only fantasy land is between your ears... and it is a
>> wasteland.
> 
> 
> Did you see JED's classic:  "sudo is not a Unix thing or a Linux thing"?
> 
> LMAO!

Green screen Jeb hasn't a clue.
He's like Terry "telnet" Porter only I suspect he may be more
ignorant.

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#108891

FromJEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet>
Date2012-05-23 15:30 -0500
Message-ID<slrnjrqi80.c5l.jedi@nomad.mishnet>
In reply to#108833
On 2012-05-23, Foster <frankfoster50@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 23 May 2012 15:25:40 -0400, DFS wrote:
>
>> On 5/23/2012 3:24 PM, GreyCloud wrote:
>>> On 5/23/2012 12:50 PM, JEDIDIAH wrote:
>>>> On 2012-05-19, GreyCloud<mist@cumulus.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 5/18/2012 4:25 PM, JEDIDIAH wrote:
>>>>>> On 2012-05-15, GreyCloud<mist@cumulus.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 5/15/2012 3:23 PM, Nix wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 15 May 2012, GreyCloud uttered the following:
>>>> [deletia]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Didn't you look at the screen shot?? The fonts are jagged.
>>>>>>> So what good is it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Win7 is horrible about jaggies. With all the whining that you losers
>>>>>> do about fonts in Linux I would have expected it to be much better than
>>>>>> it actually turns out that it is.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You sound like you are reading from a 10 year old FUD playbook.
>>>>>>
>>>>> No, obviously you haven't run win7.
>>>>
>>>> When confronted with an inconvenient truth, you create a fantasy land
>>>> for yourself.
>>>>
>>> Guffaw!!! The only fantasy land is between your ears... and it is a
>>> wasteland.
>> 
>> 
>> Did you see JED's classic:  "sudo is not a Unix thing or a Linux thing"?
>> 
>> LMAO!
>
> Green screen Jeb hasn't a clue.
 
   Repeating a lie won't make it any more true.

   I was using GUIs before the lot of you.

   That includes you recently-trende weenie Fanboys.

-- 
    ...of course if you are forced against your will to use Windows in    |||
the day time your bound to have a lot to vent about in the evening.      / | \

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#108905

FromDFS <nospam@dfs.com>
Date2012-05-23 17:08 -0400
Message-ID<jpjjk2$vcd$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#108891
On 5/23/2012 4:30 PM, JEDIDIAH wrote:
> On 2012-05-23, Foster<frankfoster50@yahoo.com>  wrote:
>> On Wed, 23 May 2012 15:25:40 -0400, DFS wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/23/2012 3:24 PM, GreyCloud wrote:
>>>> On 5/23/2012 12:50 PM, JEDIDIAH wrote:
>>>>> On 2012-05-19, GreyCloud<mist@cumulus.com>  wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/18/2012 4:25 PM, JEDIDIAH wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2012-05-15, GreyCloud<mist@cumulus.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 5/15/2012 3:23 PM, Nix wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 15 May 2012, GreyCloud uttered the following:
>>>>> [deletia]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Didn't you look at the screen shot?? The fonts are jagged.
>>>>>>>> So what good is it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Win7 is horrible about jaggies. With all the whining that you losers
>>>>>>> do about fonts in Linux I would have expected it to be much better than
>>>>>>> it actually turns out that it is.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You sound like you are reading from a 10 year old FUD playbook.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, obviously you haven't run win7.
>>>>>
>>>>> When confronted with an inconvenient truth, you create a fantasy land
>>>>> for yourself.
>>>>>
>>>> Guffaw!!! The only fantasy land is between your ears... and it is a
>>>> wasteland.
>>>
>>>
>>> Did you see JED's classic:  "sudo is not a Unix thing or a Linux thing"?
>>>
>>> LMAO!
>>
>> Green screen Jeb hasn't a clue.
>
>     Repeating a lie won't make it any more true.
>
>     I was using GUIs before the lot of you.
>
>     That includes you recently-trende weenie Fanboys.


You don't know that.

And if true, it doesn't make you any less of a green-screen *nix 
dinosaur who's had trouble moving into the future.

You use slrn, for Christ's sake...

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#108990

FromGreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com>
Date2012-05-23 17:00 -0600
Message-ID<PoydnSXDeou18SDSnZ2dnUVZ_rqdnZ2d@bresnan.com>
In reply to#108891
On 5/23/2012 2:30 PM, JEDIDIAH wrote:
> On 2012-05-23, Foster<frankfoster50@yahoo.com>  wrote:
>> On Wed, 23 May 2012 15:25:40 -0400, DFS wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/23/2012 3:24 PM, GreyCloud wrote:
>>>> On 5/23/2012 12:50 PM, JEDIDIAH wrote:
>>>>> On 2012-05-19, GreyCloud<mist@cumulus.com>  wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/18/2012 4:25 PM, JEDIDIAH wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2012-05-15, GreyCloud<mist@cumulus.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 5/15/2012 3:23 PM, Nix wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 15 May 2012, GreyCloud uttered the following:
>>>>> [deletia]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Didn't you look at the screen shot?? The fonts are jagged.
>>>>>>>> So what good is it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Win7 is horrible about jaggies. With all the whining that you losers
>>>>>>> do about fonts in Linux I would have expected it to be much better than
>>>>>>> it actually turns out that it is.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You sound like you are reading from a 10 year old FUD playbook.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, obviously you haven't run win7.
>>>>>
>>>>> When confronted with an inconvenient truth, you create a fantasy land
>>>>> for yourself.
>>>>>
>>>> Guffaw!!! The only fantasy land is between your ears... and it is a
>>>> wasteland.
>>>
>>>
>>> Did you see JED's classic:  "sudo is not a Unix thing or a Linux thing"?
>>>
>>> LMAO!
>>
>> Green screen Jeb hasn't a clue.
>
>     Repeating a lie won't make it any more true.
>

But you sure like to repeat your lies, eh?

>     I was using GUIs before the lot of you.
>

Must've been the original Mac, eh?

>     That includes you recently-trende weenie Fanboys.
>

As if you aren't a linux fanboi??  :D

And I don't believe one word about you running a GUI based Unix... you 
couldn't afford it.

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#108869

FromGreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com>
Date2012-05-23 14:48 -0600
Message-ID<VOKdnSgzhO6s0CDSnZ2dnUVZ_umdnZ2d@bresnan.com>
In reply to#108813
On 5/23/2012 1:25 PM, DFS wrote:
> On 5/23/2012 3:24 PM, GreyCloud wrote:
>> On 5/23/2012 12:50 PM, JEDIDIAH wrote:
>>> On 2012-05-19, GreyCloud<mist@cumulus.com> wrote:
>>>> On 5/18/2012 4:25 PM, JEDIDIAH wrote:
>>>>> On 2012-05-15, GreyCloud<mist@cumulus.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/15/2012 3:23 PM, Nix wrote:
>>>>>>> On 15 May 2012, GreyCloud uttered the following:
>>> [deletia]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Didn't you look at the screen shot?? The fonts are jagged.
>>>>>> So what good is it?
>>>>>
>>>>> Win7 is horrible about jaggies. With all the whining that you losers
>>>>> do about fonts in Linux I would have expected it to be much better
>>>>> than
>>>>> it actually turns out that it is.
>>>>>
>>>>> You sound like you are reading from a 10 year old FUD playbook.
>>>>>
>>>> No, obviously you haven't run win7.
>>>
>>> When confronted with an inconvenient truth, you create a fantasy land
>>> for yourself.
>>>
>> Guffaw!!! The only fantasy land is between your ears... and it is a
>> wasteland.
>
>
> Did you see JED's classic: "sudo is not a Unix thing or a Linux thing"?
>
> LMAO!
>
>

Yep!  :D

And yet he claims to have used UNIX.

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#108885 — DFS lies again

FromJEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet>
Date2012-05-23 15:30 -0500
SubjectDFS lies again
Message-ID<slrnjrqi6i.c5l.jedi@nomad.mishnet>
In reply to#108813
On 2012-05-23, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
> On 5/23/2012 3:24 PM, GreyCloud wrote:
>> On 5/23/2012 12:50 PM, JEDIDIAH wrote:
>>> On 2012-05-19, GreyCloud<mist@cumulus.com> wrote:
>>>> On 5/18/2012 4:25 PM, JEDIDIAH wrote:
>>>>> On 2012-05-15, GreyCloud<mist@cumulus.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/15/2012 3:23 PM, Nix wrote:
>>>>>>> On 15 May 2012, GreyCloud uttered the following:
>>> [deletia]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Didn't you look at the screen shot?? The fonts are jagged.
>>>>>> So what good is it?
>>>>>
>>>>> Win7 is horrible about jaggies. With all the whining that you losers
>>>>> do about fonts in Linux I would have expected it to be much better than
>>>>> it actually turns out that it is.
>>>>>
>>>>> You sound like you are reading from a 10 year old FUD playbook.
>>>>>
>>>> No, obviously you haven't run win7.
>>>
>>> When confronted with an inconvenient truth, you create a fantasy land
>>> for yourself.
>>>
>> Guffaw!!! The only fantasy land is between your ears... and it is a
>> wasteland.
>
>
> Did you see JED's classic:  "sudo is not a Unix thing or a Linux thing"?

   Why do you insist on continuing to bring up this blatant fabrication?

-- 
    ...of course if you are forced against your will to use Windows in    |||
the day time your bound to have a lot to vent about in the evening.      / | \

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