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  Two months with Ubuntu 26.04 LTS on a GMKtec NucBox M6 Ultra John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-10-22 14:11 +0200
    Re: Two months with Ubuntu 26.04 LTS on a GMKtec NucBox M6 Ultra rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-22 17:59 +0000
      Re: Two months with Ubuntu 26.04 LTS on a GMKtec NucBox M6 Ultra John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-10-22 20:04 +0200
        Re: Two months with Ubuntu 26.04 LTS on a GMKtec NucBox M6 Ultra Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-22 11:34 -0700
          Re: Two months with Ubuntu 26.04 LTS on a GMKtec NucBox M6 Ultra The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-22 19:37 +0100
            Re: Two months with Ubuntu 26.04 LTS on a GMKtec NucBox M6 Ultra Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-10-22 19:48 +0100
              Re: Two months with Ubuntu 26.04 LTS on a GMKtec NucBox M6 Ultra Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-22 12:00 -0700
                Re: Two months with Ubuntu 26.04 LTS on a GMKtec NucBox M6 Ultra rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-23 00:56 +0000
                  Re: Two months with Ubuntu 26.04 LTS on a GMKtec NucBox M6 Ultra Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-22 18:13 -0700
                    Re: Two months with Ubuntu 26.04 LTS on a GMKtec NucBox M6 Ultra rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-23 04:45 +0000
                      Re: Two months with Ubuntu 26.04 LTS on a GMKtec NucBox M6 Ultra Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-22 22:04 -0700
              Re: Two months with Ubuntu 26.04 LTS on a GMKtec NucBox M6 Ultra rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-23 00:54 +0000
            Re: Two months with Ubuntu 26.04 LTS on a GMKtec NucBox M6 Ultra "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-10-22 15:39 -0400
              Re: Two months with Ubuntu 26.04 LTS on a GMKtec NucBox M6 Ultra Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-22 12:43 -0700
                Re: Two months with Ubuntu 26.04 LTS on a GMKtec NucBox M6 Ultra "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-10-22 16:05 -0400
                  Re: Two months with Ubuntu 26.04 LTS on a GMKtec NucBox M6 Ultra Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-22 13:23 -0700
          Re: Two months with Ubuntu 26.04 LTS on a GMKtec NucBox M6 Ultra John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-10-22 22:30 +0200
            Re: Two months with Ubuntu 26.04 LTS on a GMKtec NucBox M6 Ultra Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-22 13:57 -0700
        Re: Two months with Ubuntu 26.04 LTS on a GMKtec NucBox M6 Ultra rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-23 00:46 +0000
    Re: Two months with Ubuntu 26.04 LTS on a GMKtec NucBox M6 Ultra Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-10-23 02:28 +0000
      Re: Two months with Ubuntu 26.04 LTS on a GMKtec NucBox M6 Ultra Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-10-22 20:08 -0700
      Re: Two months with Ubuntu 26.04 LTS on a GMKtec NucBox M6 Ultra CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-10-23 08:05 -0400

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#724504 — Two months with Ubuntu 26.04 LTS on a GMKtec NucBox M6 Ultra

"
While I like the look and feel of Ubuntu 26.04 LTS something can be said 
about the issues I encountered. Especially the crashing of applications, 
the disappearance of icons, and WiFi suddenly not working. None is 
really a deal breaker to me but I can imagine that for a beginner those are.
"

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#724521

On Thu, 22 Oct 2026 14:11:14 +0200, John Bokma wrote:

> "
> While I like the look and feel of Ubuntu 26.04 LTS something can be said
> about the issues I encountered. Especially the crashing of applications,
> the disappearance of icons, and WiFi suddenly not working. None is
> really a deal breaker to me but I can imagine that for a beginner those
> are.
> "

I haven't had many problems with 26.04. Thunderbird sometimes stops 
working. It doesn't crash but doesn't collect mail from the STMP server. A 
restart fixes it. 

I doubt I'll go to 26.10. GNOME isn't my favorite DE and I've no desire to 
see how long it takes to sort out GNOME 51.  The KDE 6.8 on the Tumbleweed 
laptop works well although I've not, and probably never will, use the new 
features. 

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#724522

On 22/10/2026 19:59, rbowman wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Oct 2026 14:11:14 +0200, John Bokma wrote:
> 
>> "
>> While I like the look and feel of Ubuntu 26.04 LTS something can be said
>> about the issues I encountered. Especially the crashing of applications,
>> the disappearance of icons, and WiFi suddenly not working. None is
>> really a deal breaker to me but I can imagine that for a beginner those
>> are.
>> "
> 
> I haven't had many problems with 26.04. Thunderbird sometimes stops
> working. It doesn't crash but doesn't collect mail from the STMP server. A
> restart fixes it.

I only use Thunderbird on macOS. What I've noticed is that after a while 
it doesn't show messages (the contents) in the preview pane anymore. A 
restart fixes this. It's still in 158.0. There is an update to 158.0.1 
available, no idea if that contains a fix.

> I doubt I'll go to 26.10. GNOME isn't my favorite DE and I've no desire to
> see how long it takes to sort out GNOME 51.  The KDE 6.8 on the Tumbleweed
> laptop works well although I've not, and probably never will, use the new
> features.

I just use whatever comes with Ubuntu :-). Don't like to configure 
things endlessly. And I pick Ubuntu because it's common. If I run into 
an issue others might have done too, and maybe provide a fix.

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#724525

On Oct 22, 2026 at 11:04 AM, John Bokma wrote in
11bdj81$13d6d$1@dont-email.me:
> On 22/10/2026 19:59, rbowman wrote:
>> On Thu, 22 Oct 2026 14:11:14 +0200, John Bokma wrote:
>>
>>> "
>>> While I like the look and feel of Ubuntu 26.04 LTS something can be
>>> said about the issues I encountered. Especially the crashing of
>>> applications, the disappearance of icons, and WiFi suddenly not
>>> working. None is really a deal breaker to me but I can imagine that
>>> for a beginner those are.
>>> "
>>
>> I haven't had many problems with 26.04. Thunderbird sometimes stops
>> working. It doesn't crash but doesn't collect mail from the STMP
>> server. A restart fixes it.
> 
> I only use Thunderbird on macOS. What I've noticed is that after a
> while it doesn't show messages (the contents) in the preview pane
> anymore. A restart fixes this. It's still in 158.0. There is an update
> to 158.0.1 available, no idea if that contains a fix.

I have not used Thunderbird in forever. Did not like it. Moved to
Usenapp... and it is OK. Now working on my own. So far it is going well
but still a lot to do.

> 
>> I doubt I'll go to 26.10. GNOME isn't my favorite DE and I've no
>> desire to see how long it takes to sort out GNOME 51. The KDE 6.8 on
>> the Tumbleweed laptop works well although I've not, and probably
>> never will, use the new features.
> 
> I just use whatever comes with Ubuntu :-). Don't like to configure
> things endlessly. And I pick Ubuntu because it's common. If I run into
> an issue others might have done too, and maybe provide a fix.



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#724526

On 22/10/2026 19:34, Brock McNuggets wrote:
> I have not used Thunderbird in forever. Did not like it. Moved to
> Usenapp... and it is OK. Now working on my own. So far it is going well
> but still a lot to do.

Ads a Usenet agent it sucks.  It isn't bad for email tho

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takes what he can and gives only what he must, but the saint gives 
everything he can and takes only what he needs.

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#724527

The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> Brock McNuggets wrote:
> >> I have not used Thunderbird in forever. Did not like it.
> 
> Ads a Usenet agent it sucks.  It isn't bad for email tho

If it *really* sucked I wouldn't use it, it's on the non-sucky side of 
the line.

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#724528

On Oct 22, 2026 at 11:48 AM, Andy Burns wrote in
njv43sFjuhmU2@mid.individual.net:
> The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> 
>> Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>> I have not used Thunderbird in forever. Did not like it.
>>
>> Ads a Usenet agent it sucks. It isn't bad for email tho
> 
> If it *really* sucked I wouldn't use it, it's on the non-sucky side of
> the line.

Have you used Usenapp as a comparison?

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#724539

On Thu, 22 Oct 2026 12:00:14 -0700, Brock McNuggets wrote:

> On Oct 22, 2026 at 11:48 AM, Andy Burns wrote in
> njv43sFjuhmU2@mid.individual.net:
>> The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> 
>>> Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>>> I have not used Thunderbird in forever. Did not like it.
>>>
>>> Ads a Usenet agent it sucks. It isn't bad for email tho
>> 
>> If it *really* sucked I wouldn't use it, it's on the non-sucky side of
>> the line.
> 
> Have you used Usenapp as a comparison?

MacOS only, right? 

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#724540

On Oct 22, 2026 at 5:56 PM, rbowman wrote in
njvpliFiqckU11@mid.individual.net:
> On Thu, 22 Oct 2026 12:00:14 -0700, Brock McNuggets wrote:
> 
>> On Oct 22, 2026 at 11:48 AM, Andy Burns wrote in
>> njv43sFjuhmU2@mid.individual.net:
>>> The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>>>> I have not used Thunderbird in forever. Did not like it.
>>>> 
>>>> Ads a Usenet agent it sucks. It isn't bad for email tho
>>> 
>>> If it *really* sucked I wouldn't use it, it's on the non-sucky side
>>> of the line.
>> 
>> Have you used Usenapp as a comparison?
> 
> MacOS only, right?
> 

Yes. So if not macOS, well, you have not. Fair enough.

I am just focused on the macOS Usenet client world because I am making
my own -- and *maybe* if things go well I will try selling it. Trying to
get a feel for what people like / dislike.

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#724543

On Thu, 22 Oct 2026 18:13:36 -0700, Brock McNuggets wrote:

> On Oct 22, 2026 at 5:56 PM, rbowman wrote in
> njvpliFiqckU11@mid.individual.net:
>> On Thu, 22 Oct 2026 12:00:14 -0700, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>> 
>>> On Oct 22, 2026 at 11:48 AM, Andy Burns wrote in
>>> njv43sFjuhmU2@mid.individual.net:
>>>> The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>>>>> I have not used Thunderbird in forever. Did not like it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ads a Usenet agent it sucks. It isn't bad for email tho
>>>> 
>>>> If it *really* sucked I wouldn't use it, it's on the non-sucky side
>>>> of the line.
>>> 
>>> Have you used Usenapp as a comparison?
>> 
>> MacOS only, right?
>> 
>> 
> Yes. So if not macOS, well, you have not. Fair enough.
> 
> I am just focused on the macOS Usenet client world because I am making
> my own -- and *maybe* if things go well I will try selling it. Trying to
> get a feel for what people like / dislike.

You might do better in a mac group than a Linux one.

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#724544

On Oct 22, 2026 at 9:45 PM, rbowman wrote in
nk073qFiqckU12@mid.individual.net:
> On Thu, 22 Oct 2026 18:13:36 -0700, Brock McNuggets wrote:
> 
>> On Oct 22, 2026 at 5:56 PM, rbowman wrote in
>> njvpliFiqckU11@mid.individual.net:
>>> On Thu, 22 Oct 2026 12:00:14 -0700, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 22, 2026 at 11:48 AM, Andy Burns wrote in
>>>> njv43sFjuhmU2@mid.individual.net:
<snip 9 lines>
>>>> 
>>>> Have you used Usenapp as a comparison?
>>> 
>>> MacOS only, right?
>>> 
>>> 
>> Yes. So if not macOS, well, you have not. Fair enough.
>> 
>> I am just focused on the macOS Usenet client world because I am
>> making my own -- and *maybe* if things go well I will try selling it.
>> Trying to get a feel for what people like / dislike.
> 
> You might do better in a mac group than a Linux one.

Fair. LOL! I also do like Linux, though I am grossly behind the times
with it. Used to run tech in small schools and worked to add Linux labs.
For schools it was ideal -- donated hardware that Linux works great on.

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#724538

On Thu, 22 Oct 2026 19:48:26 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:

> The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> 
>> Brock McNuggets wrote:
>> >> I have not used Thunderbird in forever. Did not like it.
>> 
>> Ads a Usenet agent it sucks.  It isn't bad for email tho
> 
> If it *really* sucked I wouldn't use it, it's on the non-sucky side of
> the line.

It was toeing the line so closely I switched to Pan. I liked KNode but 
that's dead on KDE. I do have slrn set up on the Fedora box as a 
fallback. 

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#724529

On 10/22/2026 2:37 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 22/10/2026 19:34, Brock McNuggets wrote:

>> I have not used Thunderbird in forever. Did not like it. Moved to
>> Usenapp... and it is OK. Now working on my own. So far it is going well
>> but still a lot to do.
> 
> Ads a Usenet agent it sucks.  It isn't bad for email tho


macOS and iOS have NNTP clients to envy, as a Winblows/Android guy.  I 
can admit that.  Not enough to make me switch, though, I just put up 
with Thunderbird on Windows, and let it be.

-- 
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#724530

On Oct 22, 2026 at 12:39 PM, Joel W. Crump wrote in
11bdop5$15i1g$1@dont-email.me:
> On 10/22/2026 2:37 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 22/10/2026 19:34, Brock McNuggets wrote:
> 
>>> I have not used Thunderbird in forever. Did not like it. Moved to
>>> Usenapp... and it is OK. Now working on my own. So far it is going
>>> well but still a lot to do.
>>
>> Ads a Usenet agent it sucks. It isn't bad for email tho
> 
> 
> macOS and iOS have NNTP clients to envy, as a Winblows/Android guy. I
> can admit that. Not enough to make me switch, though, I just put up
> with Thunderbird on Windows, and let it be.

I like NewsTap on iOS but do not like any of the macOS clients... hence
why I am making my own. It is still rough around the edges but already I
am using it as my day to day client and (mostly) preferring it to the
competition.

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#724531

On 10/22/2026 3:43 PM, Brock McNuggets wrote:
> On Oct 22, 2026 at 12:39 PM, Joel W. Crump wrote in
> 11bdop5$15i1g$1@dont-email.me:
>> On 10/22/2026 2:37 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>> On 22/10/2026 19:34, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>
>>>> I have not used Thunderbird in forever. Did not like it. Moved to
>>>> Usenapp... and it is OK. Now working on my own. So far it is going
>>>> well but still a lot to do.
>>>
>>> Ads a Usenet agent it sucks. It isn't bad for email tho
>>
>> macOS and iOS have NNTP clients to envy, as a Winblows/Android guy. I
>> can admit that. Not enough to make me switch, though, I just put up
>> with Thunderbird on Windows, and let it be.
> 
> I like NewsTap on iOS but do not like any of the macOS clients... hence
> why I am making my own. It is still rough around the edges but already I
> am using it as my day to day client and (mostly) preferring it to the
> competition.


Cool!

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#724532

On Oct 22, 2026 at 1:05 PM, Joel W. Crump wrote in
11bdq9m$166j5$1@dont-email.me:
> On 10/22/2026 3:43 PM, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>> On Oct 22, 2026 at 12:39 PM, Joel W. Crump wrote in
>> 11bdop5$15i1g$1@dont-email.me:
>>> On 10/22/2026 2:37 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>> On 22/10/2026 19:34, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>>>
>>>>> I have not used Thunderbird in forever. Did not like it. Moved to
>>>>> Usenapp... and it is OK. Now working on my own. So far it is going
>>>>> well but still a lot to do.
>>>>
>>>> Ads a Usenet agent it sucks. It isn't bad for email tho
>>>
>>> macOS and iOS have NNTP clients to envy, as a Winblows/Android guy.
>>> I can admit that. Not enough to make me switch, though, I just put
>>> up with Thunderbird on Windows, and let it be.
>>
>> I like NewsTap on iOS but do not like any of the macOS clients...
>> hence why I am making my own. It is still rough around the edges but
>> already I am using it as my day to day client and (mostly) preferring
>> it to the competition.
> 
> 
> Cool!

I am currently stress testing it. At 1.3M posts (total) it has some
areas it needs to be sped up but mostly handles it well. The biggest
issue is a group with over 800K posts takes a long time for first
opening. For only working for about 10 days it is coming along great.

Want to make a video to show it off -- and with Usenet being public it
is not like I am sharing anything personal.

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#724533

On 22/10/2026 20:34, Brock McNuggets wrote:
> On Oct 22, 2026 at 11:04 AM, John Bokma wrote in

[..]

>> I only use Thunderbird on macOS. What I've noticed is that after a
>> while it doesn't show messages (the contents) in the preview pane
>> anymore. A restart fixes this. It's still in 158.0. There is an update
>> to 158.0.1 available, no idea if that contains a fix.
> 
> I have not used Thunderbird in forever. Did not like it. Moved to
> Usenapp... and it is OK. Now working on my own. So far it is going well
> but still a lot to do.

I couldn't make Gnus (Emacs) work with eternal September, so I tried 
Thunderbird and it worked :-).

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#724534

On Oct 22, 2026 at 1:30 PM, John Bokma wrote in
11bdrom$16n9c$1@dont-email.me:
> On 22/10/2026 20:34, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>> On Oct 22, 2026 at 11:04 AM, John Bokma wrote in
> 
> [..]
> 
>>> I only use Thunderbird on macOS. What I've noticed is that after a
>>> while it doesn't show messages (the contents) in the preview pane
>>> anymore. A restart fixes this. It's still in 158.0. There is an
>>> update to 158.0.1 available, no idea if that contains a fix.
>>
>> I have not used Thunderbird in forever. Did not like it. Moved to
>> Usenapp... and it is OK. Now working on my own. So far it is going
>> well but still a lot to do.
> 
> I couldn't make Gnus (Emacs) work with eternal September, so I tried
> Thunderbird and it worked :-).

Fair. And free.

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#724537

On Thu, 22 Oct 2026 20:04:47 +0200, John Bokma wrote:

> I only use Thunderbird on macOS. What I've noticed is that after a while
> it doesn't show messages (the contents) in the preview pane anymore. A
> restart fixes this. It's still in 158.0. There is an update to 158.0.1
> available, no idea if that contains a fix.

I only have Thunderbird on the Ubuntu box. It's a snap and is 1.140. At 
work I used KMail but iirc I had a problem configuring it for the Exchange 
server. Thunderbird worked and is cross platform. I used it for newsgroups 
but kept hitting strange format issues and moved to Pan.

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#724541

On Thu, 22 Oct 2026 14:11:14 +0200, John Bokma wrote:

> "While I like the look and feel of Ubuntu 26.04 LTS something can be
> said about the issues I encountered. Especially the crashing of
> applications, the disappearance of icons, and WiFi suddenly not
> working."

Just a note that anything involving “look and feel” and “icons” is a
GUI issue, not an OS issue.

This is how Unix-type systems work. Those coming from proprietary
platforms like Microsoft’s and Apple’s often have difficulty
appreciating this fact.

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