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Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’t feel like harassment?

Started byLawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
First post2026-01-02 21:11 +0000
Last post2026-01-03 21:03 +0000
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  Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’t feel like harassment? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-02 21:11 +0000
    Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’t feel CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-01-02 16:42 -0500
      Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn�t feel chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-01-02 20:49 -0600
        Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didnt feel CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-01-02 22:13 -0500
          Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didnt feel vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-01-03 17:18 +0000
            Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didnt feel CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-01-03 14:14 -0500
              Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didnt feel Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2026-01-03 20:35 +0000
                Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didnt feel CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-01-03 16:26 -0500
                  Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didnt feel rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-04 05:50 +0000
                    Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didnt feel CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-01-04 07:47 -0500
                      Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didnt feel rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-05 01:40 +0000
                Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’t feel like harassment? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-03 21:50 +0000
                  Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’t feel like harassment? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-01-03 13:57 -0800
                    Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’t feel like harassment? "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-01-03 17:07 -0500
                      Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’t feel like harassment? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-01-03 14:33 -0800
                        Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’t feel like harassment? "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-01-03 17:54 -0500
                          Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’t feel like harassment? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-01-03 15:01 -0800
                            Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’t feel like harassment? "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-01-03 18:40 -0500
                              Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’t feel like harassment? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-01-03 15:48 -0800
                                Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’t feel like harassment? "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-01-03 19:06 -0500
                        Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’ CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-01-03 21:15 -0500
                          Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’ Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-01-04 16:28 -0800
                            Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’ CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-01-04 21:28 -0500
                              Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’ Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-01-04 18:39 -0800
                                Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’ CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-01-04 22:14 -0500
                                  Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’ Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-01-04 19:44 -0800
                                    Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’ CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-01-05 09:21 -0500
                                      Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’ Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-01-05 13:42 -0800
                                        Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’ CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-01-05 18:31 -0500
                                          Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’ Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-01-05 16:59 -0800
                                            Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’ CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-01-05 20:02 -0500
                                              Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’ Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-01-06 10:41 -0800
                                                Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’ "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-01-06 15:27 -0500
                                                  Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’ Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-01-06 12:49 -0800
                                                    Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’ "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-01-06 16:03 -0500
                                                      Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’ Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-01-06 15:16 -0800
                                                      Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’ Rudy Canoza <rudycanozaball@jollykone.edu> - 2026-01-07 07:52 -0500
                                                        Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’ CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-01-07 09:53 -0500
                                                  Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’ (was: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’) Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-01-07 22:44 +0000
                                                    Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’ "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-01-08 05:25 -0500
                                                      Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’ (was: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’) Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-01-08 13:47 +0000
                                                        Remember setting up Linux on an Apple iMac? "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-01-08 21:55 +0000
                                                          Re: Remember setting up Linux on an Apple iMac? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-01-08 22:27 +0000
                                                          Re: Remember setting up Linux on an Apple iMac? Nobody <djkaaa@eduv.com> - 2026-01-08 17:28 -0500
                                                            Re: Remember setting up Linux on an Apple iMac? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-01-08 22:35 +0000
                                                Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’ CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-01-06 18:17 -0500
                                                  Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’ Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-01-07 09:14 -0800
                                  Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’ -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2026-01-12 15:50 -0500
                                    Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’ Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-13 06:28 -0500
                                      Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’ -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2026-01-13 09:32 -0500
                                        Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’t feel like harassment? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-13 19:46 +0000
                                          Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’t feel like harassment? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2026-01-13 15:54 -0500
                                            Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’t feel like harassment? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-13 22:29 +0000
                                              Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’t feel like harassment? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-01-13 14:50 -0800
                                              Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’t feel like harassment? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2026-01-13 18:14 -0500
                                                Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’t feel like harassment? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-13 23:45 +0000
                                                  Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’t feel like harassment? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2026-01-14 09:25 -0500
                                                    Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’t feel like harassment? CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-01-14 17:39 +0000
                                                    Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’t feel like harassment? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-14 20:47 +0000
                                                      Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn�t feel like harassment? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-01-14 15:12 -0600
                                                      Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’t feel like harassment? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-01-14 14:27 -0800
                                                Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’t feel like harassment? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-01-16 21:37 +0000
                                              Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’t feel like harassment? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2026-01-14 17:11 -0500
                                                Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’t feel like harassment? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-14 22:46 +0000
                                                  Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’t feel like harassment? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2026-01-15 08:44 -0500
                                                Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’t feel like harassment? CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-01-15 01:12 +0000
                                                  Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’t feel like harassment? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2026-01-15 08:40 -0500
                                                    Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’t feel like harassment? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-15 21:18 +0000
                                                      Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’t feel like harassment? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-01-15 14:55 -0800
                                                      Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’t feel like harassment? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2026-01-16 06:54 -0500
                                                        Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’t feel like harassment? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-23 06:01 +0000
                                                          Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’t feel like harassment? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2026-01-23 13:45 -0500
                                          Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’t feel like harassment? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-01-13 13:45 -0800
                                      Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’ CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-01-13 15:05 +0000
                                    Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’ CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-01-13 14:06 +0000
                          Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’ Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-01-04 16:29 -0800
                            Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’ CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-01-04 21:33 -0500
                              Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’ Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-01-04 18:41 -0800
                                Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’ CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-01-04 22:33 -0500
                                  Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’ Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-01-04 19:48 -0800
                                    Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’ CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-01-05 09:27 -0500
                                      Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’ Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-01-06 11:42 -0800
                                        Re: Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’ Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2026-01-17 08:31 +0000
                                          Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’ Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-01-17 14:15 -0800
                                            Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’ "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-01-17 17:42 -0500
                                              Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’ Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-01-17 14:56 -0800
                                                Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’ "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-01-17 18:30 -0500
                                                  Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’ Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-01-17 18:04 -0800
                                                    Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’ "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-01-18 13:44 -0500
                                            Re: Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’ Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2026-01-17 22:47 +0000
                                              Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’ Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-01-17 14:56 -0800
                                                Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’ (was: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’) Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-01-17 23:57 +0000
                                                  Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2026-01-18 05:32 +0000
                                                    Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-01-18 05:50 +0000
                                                    Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-01-18 14:14 +0000
                                                      Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-01-18 16:52 +0000
                                                    Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2026-01-19 00:35 +0000
                                                      Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2026-01-20 03:24 +0000
                                                        Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2026-01-20 04:26 +0000
                                                          Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-01-20 05:40 +0000
                                                Re: Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’ Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2026-01-18 05:27 +0000
                                              Re: Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’ (was: Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’) Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-01-17 23:47 +0000
                                                Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC) Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2026-01-18 05:32 +0000
                                                  Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC) Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-01-18 05:51 +0000
                                            Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’ (was: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’) Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-01-17 23:44 +0000
                                            Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2026-01-20 03:24 +0000
                                              Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> - 2026-01-20 09:07 +0000
                                              Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2026-01-20 07:21 -0500
                                                Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-01-20 14:35 +0000
                                                Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2026-01-20 21:23 +0000
                                                  Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2026-01-20 20:20 -0500
                                                    Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2026-01-21 03:14 +0000
                                                      Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2026-01-21 09:00 -0500
                                                        Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-01-21 15:43 +0000
                                                          Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-21 14:27 -0500
                                                            Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-01-21 19:41 +0000
                                                              Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC Sedona Pete <peterbuiltsedona@trux.net> - 2026-01-21 19:49 -0500
                                                              Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC Yeppo@nope.org - 2026-01-22 01:02 +0000
                                                                Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-01-22 01:19 +0000
                                                                  Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-01-21 20:35 -0500
                                                                    Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-01-22 01:45 +0000
                                                          Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’t feel like harassment? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-23 05:56 +0000
                                                            Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’tfeel like harassment? (was: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’tfeel like harassment?) Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-01-23 06:03 +0000
                                                            Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’t feel like harassment? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-01-22 23:07 -0800
                                                            Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’t feel like harassment? Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2026-01-25 00:49 +0000
                                                          Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2026-01-23 06:13 -0700
                                                            Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-01-23 16:52 +0000
                                                              Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC Nobody <yourusernamehere@talk.net> - 2026-01-24 01:20 +0000
                                                                Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-01-24 04:46 +0000
                                                                Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-01-24 11:04 -0500
                                                                Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2026-01-24 14:30 -0700
                                                                  Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-01-24 21:42 +0000
                                                                    Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2026-01-25 07:55 -0700
                                                                      Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-01-25 16:51 +0000
                                                              Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2026-01-24 14:28 -0700
                                                                Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-01-24 21:42 +0000
                                                        Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2026-01-22 04:33 +0000
                                                          Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-01-22 10:25 +0000
                                                          Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2026-01-22 06:19 -0500
                                                            Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-01-22 15:41 +0000
                                                      Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’t feel like harassment? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-22 06:44 +0000
                                                        Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’t feel like harassment? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-01-22 11:15 -0800
                        Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’t feel like harassment? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-04 07:08 -0500
                          Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-01-04 08:05 -0500
                            Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2026-01-04 13:34 +0000
                              Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-01-04 13:53 -0500
                            Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-01-04 11:21 -0800
                            Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC WolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2026-01-04 18:44 -0500
                              Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-01-04 19:01 -0500
                                Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-01-04 16:25 -0800
                                  Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC WolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2026-01-04 19:45 -0500
                                  Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-01-04 21:17 -0500
                                    Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-01-04 18:36 -0800
                                      Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-01-04 22:09 -0500
                                        Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-01-04 23:10 -0800
                                          Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-01-05 07:38 +0000
                                            Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-01-05 00:24 -0800
                                              Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-01-05 11:20 +0000
                                                Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-01-05 11:33 -0500
                                            Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-01-05 10:42 -0500
                                          Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-01-05 10:39 -0500
                                        Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-01-12 17:28 +0000
                                          Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-01-12 09:40 -0800
                                          Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-01-12 17:58 +0000
                                            Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-01-12 10:06 -0800
                                              Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-01-12 18:20 +0000
                                                Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-01-12 10:40 -0800
                                                  Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-01-12 14:08 -0500
                                                    Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-01-12 13:51 -0800
                                              Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-12 14:07 -0500
                                              Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-01-13 13:51 +0000
                                                Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-01-13 12:07 -0800
                                Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC WolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2026-01-04 19:43 -0500
                                  Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-01-04 21:34 -0500
                                    Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-01-04 18:42 -0800
                                      Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-01-04 22:17 -0500
                                      Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-01-04 22:41 -0500
                                      Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC WolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2026-01-05 18:20 -0500
                                        Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-01-06 06:27 -0600
                                          Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-01-06 09:50 -0500
                                            Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-01-11 22:48 -0800
                                          Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-01-11 22:46 -0800
                                            Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-01-12 07:05 -0600
                                              Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-01-12 08:12 -0800
                                                Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-01-12 16:33 +0000
                                                  Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-01-12 08:36 -0800
                                                  Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-01-12 14:31 -0600
                                                    Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-01-13 14:04 +0000
                                    Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC WolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2026-01-05 18:19 -0500
                              Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-01-04 16:19 -0800
                              Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2026-01-12 16:00 -0500
                          Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’t feel like harassment? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-01-04 11:13 -0800
                    Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’ CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-01-03 17:29 -0500
                      Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’ Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-01-03 14:39 -0800
                        Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’ "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-01-03 17:58 -0500
                        Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’ CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-01-03 21:20 -0500
                          Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’ Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-01-04 11:23 -0800
                        Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’ Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-04 07:02 -0500
                          Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’ Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-01-04 11:24 -0800
                            Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn� chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-01-04 13:39 -0600
                        Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn� chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-01-04 12:20 -0600
                          Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-01-04 11:25 -0800
                            Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-01-04 13:36 -0600
                              Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-01-04 11:56 -0800
                                Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-01-04 14:01 -0600
                                  Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-01-04 20:33 +0000
                                    Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-01-04 15:38 -0500
                                  Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-01-04 13:05 -0800
                                    Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-01-04 17:16 -0600
                                      Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-01-04 18:34 -0500
                                      Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-01-04 16:25 -0800
                                        Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-01-04 19:29 -0500
                                          Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-01-04 16:46 -0800
                                            Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-01-04 20:05 -0500
                                              Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-01-04 17:35 -0800
                                                Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-01-04 21:14 -0500
                                                  Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-01-04 18:32 -0800
                                                    Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-01-04 21:53 -0500
                                                Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn onion@anon.invalid (Mr Ön!on) - 2026-01-05 02:38 +0000
                                                  Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’t feel like harassment? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-05 03:01 +0000
                                                    Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn't feel like harassment? onion@anon.invalid (Mr Ön!on) - 2026-01-05 03:24 +0000
                                                    Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’t feel like harassment? "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-01-04 22:28 -0500
                                                      Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn't feel like harassment? onion@anon.invalid (Mr Ön!on) - 2026-01-05 03:45 +0000
                                                        Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn't feel like harassment? "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-01-04 23:10 -0500
                                        Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-01-04 20:25 -0600
                                          Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-01-04 18:32 -0800
                                            Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-01-05 06:38 -0600
                                          Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-01-04 21:53 -0500
                            Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-01-04 14:43 -0500
                      Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn' snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2026-01-04 01:20 +0000
                        Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn' "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-01-03 20:26 -0500
                          Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn' snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2026-01-04 02:25 +0000
                            Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn' "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-01-03 22:50 -0500
                              Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn' snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2026-01-04 13:25 +0000
                                Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn' "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-01-04 13:46 -0500
                          Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn' Rudy Canoza <rudycanozaball@jollykone.edu> - 2026-01-04 08:19 -0500
                            Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn' "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-01-04 13:45 -0500
                              Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn' Rudy Canoza <rudycanozaball@jollykone.edu> - 2026-01-04 13:48 -0500
                        Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn' CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-01-03 21:26 -0500
                          Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn' snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2026-01-04 02:49 +0000
                          Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn' Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-01-04 11:55 -0800
                            Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn' CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-01-04 18:21 -0500
                              Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn' Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-01-04 16:27 -0800
                                Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn' CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-01-04 21:22 -0500
                                  Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn' Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-01-04 18:36 -0800
                                    Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn' CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-01-04 21:59 -0500
                                      Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn' snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2026-01-05 03:26 +0000
                                        Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn' CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-01-04 22:42 -0500
                                          Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn' snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2026-01-05 03:51 +0000
                                            Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn' "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-01-04 23:15 -0500
                                            Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn' CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-01-05 10:28 -0500
                                              Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn' snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2026-01-05 17:47 +0000
                                                Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn' "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-01-05 12:54 -0500
                                              Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn' Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-01-06 15:26 -0800
                                          Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn' Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-01-06 15:24 -0800
              Intel Raptor Lake CPU's chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-01-04 13:26 -0600
                Re: Intel Raptor Lake CPU's Farley Flud <fsquared@fsquared.linux> - 2026-01-05 11:50 +0000
                  Re: Intel Raptor Lake CPU's "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-01-05 11:35 -0500
            Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didnt feel rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-03 21:07 +0000
              Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didnt feel vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-01-03 23:07 +0000
                Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didnt feel rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-04 05:53 +0000
                  Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didnt feel vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-01-04 07:54 +0000
                    Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didnt feel rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-05 01:49 +0000
                  Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didnt feel CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-01-04 07:49 -0500
    Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’t feel like harassment? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-03 07:19 -0500
      Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-01-03 08:45 -0500
      Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC didn’t feel like harassment? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-03 21:03 +0000

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#705994

FromLawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2026-01-22 06:44 +0000
Message-ID<10ksh10$2opqp$5@dont-email.me>
In reply to#705936
On Wed, 21 Jan 2026 03:14:32 -0000 (UTC), Gremlin wrote:

> Especially considering that when you use the term PC computer ...

Depends on whether they’re referring to *personal* PC computers or not ...

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#706023

FromAlan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date2026-01-22 11:15 -0800
Message-ID<10ktsvn$38ulh$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#705994
On 2026-01-21 22:44, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Jan 2026 03:14:32 -0000 (UTC), Gremlin wrote:
> 
>> Especially considering that when you use the term PC computer ...
> 
> Depends on whether they’re referring to *personal* PC computers or not ...

Do you know what a "tautology" is?

:-)

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#704159

FromChris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
Date2026-01-04 07:08 -0500
Message-ID<10jdl7d$1ugk4$8@dont-email.me>
In reply to#704114
Alan wrote this post by blinking in Morse code:

> On 2026-01-03 14:07, Joel W. Crump wrote:
>> On 1/3/26 4:57 PM, Alan wrote:
>>> On 2026-01-03 13:50, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 03 Jan 2026 20:35:17 +0000, Tyrone wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Arm CPUs are the best thing to happen to PCs since the SSD.
>>>>
>>>> Second-best. RISC-V may yet surpass them. Maybe even LoongArch.
>>>
>>> Ummmm... "may yet surpass" literally means "aren't YET as good".
>>>
>>>> And as usual, Linux is leading the way.
>>>
>>> LOL!
>> 
>> Linux and Windows both support ARM, your precious Apple overlords aren't 
>
> So? How does that show Linux "leading the way"?
>
> There's more to leading the way that simply being able to run an OS.
>
> People don't use the OS: they use applications that can run on that OS.
>
> And Apple has lead the way in making it possible to run a program 
> written for a different architecture on new one.
>
> Motorola to PowerPC
>
> PowerPC to Intel
>
> And now, Intel to Apple Silicon.

This isn't the flex you think it is.

> <snip>
>
> And yet you can never actually articulate something that either Linux or 
> Windows does better.

AI Overview

    Linux generally offers superior customization, hardware
    choice, open-source freedom, and powerful developer tools over
    macOS, allowing users to tailor the OS extensively, install it
    on diverse (often cheaper) hardware, use powerful command-line
    utilities (Bash, Docker), and benefit from community-driven
    innovation, making it ideal for power users, developers, and
    those prioritizing control and flexibility.

Bottom line: Linux makes me happy!

-- 
Steady movement is more important than speed, much of the time.  So long
as there is a regular progression of stimuli to get your mental hooks
into, there is room for lateral movement.  Once this begins, its rate is
a matter of discretion.
		-- Corwin, Prince of Amber

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#704164 — Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC

FromCrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>
Date2026-01-04 08:05 -0500
SubjectRe: Remember when setting up a Windows PC
Message-ID<695a6593$2$23$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to#704159
On 2026-01-04 07:08, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> Alan wrote this post by blinking in Morse code:
> 
>> On 2026-01-03 14:07, Joel W. Crump wrote:
>>> On 1/3/26 4:57 PM, Alan wrote:
>>>> On 2026-01-03 13:50, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 03 Jan 2026 20:35:17 +0000, Tyrone wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Arm CPUs are the best thing to happen to PCs since the SSD.
>>>>>
>>>>> Second-best. RISC-V may yet surpass them. Maybe even LoongArch.
>>>>
>>>> Ummmm... "may yet surpass" literally means "aren't YET as good".
>>>>
>>>>> And as usual, Linux is leading the way.
>>>>
>>>> LOL!
>>>
>>> Linux and Windows both support ARM, your precious Apple overlords aren't
>>
>> So? How does that show Linux "leading the way"?
>>
>> There's more to leading the way that simply being able to run an OS.
>>
>> People don't use the OS: they use applications that can run on that OS.
>>
>> And Apple has lead the way in making it possible to run a program
>> written for a different architecture on new one.
>>
>> Motorola to PowerPC
>>
>> PowerPC to Intel
>>
>> And now, Intel to Apple Silicon.
> 
> This isn't the flex you think it is.
> 
>> <snip>
>>
>> And yet you can never actually articulate something that either Linux or
>> Windows does better.
> 
> AI Overview
> 
>      Linux generally offers superior customization, hardware
>      choice, open-source freedom, and powerful developer tools over
>      macOS, allowing users to tailor the OS extensively, install it
>      on diverse (often cheaper) hardware, use powerful command-line
>      utilities (Bash, Docker), and benefit from community-driven
>      innovation, making it ideal for power users, developers, and
>      those prioritizing control and flexibility.
> 
> Bottom line: Linux makes me happy!

Speaking of customization, for Mac users, it only goas as far as putting 
stickers representing your political beliefs on the lid of the computer. 
Every desktop looks exactly the same, every computer looks exactly the 
same. Heck, the typical Apple users is so used to fitting into a mold 
that they don't bother to change their wallpaper anymore. They appear to 
be entirely devoid of any kind of unique personality to a point that 
they all generally look the same (hipster attire, insist on hanging out 
in coffee shops to let you know that they paid extra to get an Apple 
product when they could just as easily work at home).

I've never met Alan, but I'll bet that he wears a tuque all day long and 
spends his day drinking what Starbucks considers to be coffee writing a 
screenplay.


-- 
CrudeSausage
John 14:6
Pop_OS!

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#704170 — Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC

Fromsnipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe)
Date2026-01-04 13:34 +0000
SubjectRe: Remember when setting up a Windows PC
Message-ID<1roeyts.1ctsew61sa5g5pN%snipeco.2@gmail.com>
In reply to#704164
CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:

[...]

> Speaking of customization, for Mac users, it only goas as far as putting
> stickers representing your political beliefs on the lid of the computer.
> Every desktop looks exactly the same, every computer looks exactly the
> same. Heck, the typical Apple users is so used to fitting into a mold
> that they don't bother to change their wallpaper anymore. They appear to
> be entirely devoid of any kind of unique personality to a point that 
> they all generally look the same (hipster attire, insist on hanging out
> in coffee shops to let you know that they paid extra to get an Apple 
> product when they could just as easily work at home).
> 

I must be atypical.

>
> I've never met Alan, but I'll bet that he wears a tuque all day long and
> spends his day drinking what Starbucks considers to be coffee writing a
> screenplay.
>

Are you this prejudiced about everything?

-- 
^Ï^.     Sn!pe            My pet rock Gordon has lost count.
 

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#704217 — Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC

From"Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2026-01-04 13:53 -0500
SubjectRe: Remember when setting up a Windows PC
Message-ID<EGy6R.338108$e72b.93596@fx44.iad>
In reply to#704170
On 1/4/26 8:34 AM, Sn!pe wrote:
> CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
> 
>> Speaking of customization, for Mac users, it only goas as far as putting
>> stickers representing your political beliefs on the lid of the computer.
>> Every desktop looks exactly the same, every computer looks exactly the
>> same. Heck, the typical Apple users is so used to fitting into a mold
>> that they don't bother to change their wallpaper anymore. They appear to
>> be entirely devoid of any kind of unique personality to a point that
>> they all generally look the same (hipster attire, insist on hanging out
>> in coffee shops to let you know that they paid extra to get an Apple
>> product when they could just as easily work at home).
> 
> I must be atypical.
> 
>> I've never met Alan, but I'll bet that he wears a tuque all day long and
>> spends his day drinking what Starbucks considers to be coffee writing a
>> screenplay.
> 
> Are you this prejudiced about everything?


He is and more.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

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#704227 — Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC

FromAlan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date2026-01-04 11:21 -0800
SubjectRe: Remember when setting up a Windows PC
Message-ID<10jeejq$26c3d$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#704164
On 2026-01-04 05:05, CrudeSausage wrote:
> On 2026-01-04 07:08, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>> Alan wrote this post by blinking in Morse code:
>>
>>> On 2026-01-03 14:07, Joel W. Crump wrote:
>>>> On 1/3/26 4:57 PM, Alan wrote:
>>>>> On 2026-01-03 13:50, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 03 Jan 2026 20:35:17 +0000, Tyrone wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Arm CPUs are the best thing to happen to PCs since the SSD.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Second-best. RISC-V may yet surpass them. Maybe even LoongArch.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ummmm... "may yet surpass" literally means "aren't YET as good".
>>>>>
>>>>>> And as usual, Linux is leading the way.
>>>>>
>>>>> LOL!
>>>>
>>>> Linux and Windows both support ARM, your precious Apple overlords 
>>>> aren't
>>>
>>> So? How does that show Linux "leading the way"?
>>>
>>> There's more to leading the way that simply being able to run an OS.
>>>
>>> People don't use the OS: they use applications that can run on that OS.
>>>
>>> And Apple has lead the way in making it possible to run a program
>>> written for a different architecture on new one.
>>>
>>> Motorola to PowerPC
>>>
>>> PowerPC to Intel
>>>
>>> And now, Intel to Apple Silicon.
>>
>> This isn't the flex you think it is.
>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>> And yet you can never actually articulate something that either Linux or
>>> Windows does better.
>>
>> AI Overview
>>
>>      Linux generally offers superior customization, hardware
>>      choice, open-source freedom, and powerful developer tools over
>>      macOS, allowing users to tailor the OS extensively, install it
>>      on diverse (often cheaper) hardware, use powerful command-line
>>      utilities (Bash, Docker), and benefit from community-driven
>>      innovation, making it ideal for power users, developers, and
>>      those prioritizing control and flexibility.
>>
>> Bottom line: Linux makes me happy!
> 
> Speaking of customization, for Mac users, it only goas as far as putting 
> stickers representing your political beliefs on the lid of the computer. 
> Every desktop looks exactly the same, every computer looks exactly the 
> same. Heck, the typical Apple users is so used to fitting into a mold 
> that they don't bother to change their wallpaper anymore. They appear to 
> be entirely devoid of any kind of unique personality to a point that 
> they all generally look the same (hipster attire, insist on hanging out 
> in coffee shops to let you know that they paid extra to get an Apple 
> product when they could just as easily work at home).
> 

Hmmmmmm...maybe because Mac users actually want to accomplish TASKS with 
their computers.

I admit, when there were utilities for customizing the look of Mac OS 
back in the day, I played with them...

...but it was PLAY.

You're basically arguing how silly it is that all cars using boring 
"steering wheels" and the same two-pedal (or three-pedal) arrangement.

> I've never met Alan, but I'll bet that he wears a tuque all day long and 
> spends his day drinking what Starbucks considers to be coffee writing a 
> screenplay.
LOLOLOLOLOLOL!

I wear a toque when I'm outside and it's cold; mostly when I ski (which 
I admit, since I tore my ACL, I no longer do very often). Former 
instructor, BTW.

I occasional buy a Starbucks, but it's usually because there is one that 
is very convenient (i.e. open early enough) for me when I'm on my way 
out to the the race track to either race my 1998 Formula F Van Diemen 
RF98 Honda...

...or to teach road racing to new students.

Mostly I make my own coffee and brew it by the cup in an AeroPress from 
beans I grind by the cup.

Oh, and I play hockey 2-4 times a week, and when I play regularly, I'm a 
single-digit handicap golfer...

...and I've been a world championship competitor in sailing.

So sorry not to have lived up to this fantasy you've constructed.

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#704258 — Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC

FromWolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com>
Date2026-01-04 18:44 -0500
SubjectRe: Remember when setting up a Windows PC
Message-ID<0001HW.2F0B32C6027CB42E7000062E838F@news.supernews.com>
In reply to#704164
On Jan 4, 2026, CrudeSausage wrote
(in article<695a6593$2$23$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>):

> On 2026-01-04 07:08, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> > Alan wrote this post by blinking in Morse code:
> >
> > > On 2026-01-03 14:07, Joel W. Crump wrote:
> > > > On 1/3/26 4:57 PM, Alan wrote:
> > > > > On 2026-01-03 13:50, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
> > > > > > On Sat, 03 Jan 2026 20:35:17 +0000, Tyrone wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Arm CPUs are the best thing to happen to PCs since the SSD.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Second-best. RISC-V may yet surpass them. Maybe even LoongArch.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ummmm... "may yet surpass" literally means "aren't YET as good".
> > > > >
> > > > > > And as usual, Linux is leading the way.
> > > > >
> > > > > LOL!
> > > >
> > > > Linux and Windows both support ARM, your precious Apple overlords aren't
> > >
> > > So? How does that show Linux "leading the way"?
> > >
> > > There's more to leading the way that simply being able to run an OS.
> > >
> > > People don't use the OS: they use applications that can run on that OS.
> > >
> > > And Apple has lead the way in making it possible to run a program
> > > written for a different architecture on new one.
> > >
> > > Motorola to PowerPC
> > >
> > > PowerPC to Intel
> > >
> > > And now, Intel to Apple Silicon.
> >
> > This isn't the flex you think it is.
> >
> > > <snip>
> > >
> > > And yet you can never actually articulate something that either Linux or
> > > Windows does better.
> >
> > AI Overview
> >
> > Linux generally offers superior customization, hardware
> > choice, open-source freedom, and powerful developer tools over
> > macOS, allowing users to tailor the OS extensively, install it
> > on diverse (often cheaper) hardware, use powerful command-line
> > utilities (Bash, Docker), and benefit from community-driven
> > innovation, making it ideal for power users, developers, and
> > those prioritizing control and flexibility.
> >
> > Bottom line: Linux makes me happy!
>
> Speaking of customization, for Mac users, it only goas as far as putting
> stickers representing your political beliefs on the lid of the computer.

not on any of mine.
>
> Every desktop looks exactly the same, every computer looks exactly the
> same.

looks at MacBook. Looks at display attached to Mac mini #1. Looks at display 
attached to Mac mini #2. Three different desktops; even the Docks are 
different, several apps are on only one of the machines. Hint: one of the Mac 
minis is a server, with multiple volumes attached.
> Heck, the typical Apple users is so used to fitting into a mold
> that they don't bother to change their wallpaper anymore.

Hmm. MacBook currently has a high-res image of EarthForce destroyer Agamemnon 
in orbit. Mac mini #1 has Enterprise CV-6 launching against the Kido Butai on 
the morning of 4 June 1942. Mac mini #2 has Faith, Hope, and Charity 
defending Malta. Each image is from different folders, one per machine, with 
48 images each, rotated once every half hour.
> They appear to
> be entirely devoid of any kind of unique personality to a point that
> they all generally look the same (hipster attire, insist on hanging out
> in coffee shops to let you know that they paid extra to get an Apple
> product when they could just as easily work at home).

I’ve never so much as set foot in a Starbucks. Ever.
>
>
> I've never met Alan, but I'll bet that he wears a tuque all day long and
> spends his day drinking what Starbucks considers to be coffee writing a
> screenplay.

bloody hell. you need help, laddie.

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#704259 — Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC

FromCrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>
Date2026-01-04 19:01 -0500
SubjectRe: Remember when setting up a Windows PC
Message-ID<695aff72$0$22$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to#704258
On 2026-01-04 18:44, WolfFan wrote:
> On Jan 4, 2026, CrudeSausage wrote
> (in article<695a6593$2$23$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>):
> 
>> On 2026-01-04 07:08, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>> Alan wrote this post by blinking in Morse code:
>>>
>>>> On 2026-01-03 14:07, Joel W. Crump wrote:
>>>>> On 1/3/26 4:57 PM, Alan wrote:
>>>>>> On 2026-01-03 13:50, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sat, 03 Jan 2026 20:35:17 +0000, Tyrone wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Arm CPUs are the best thing to happen to PCs since the SSD.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Second-best. RISC-V may yet surpass them. Maybe even LoongArch.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ummmm... "may yet surpass" literally means "aren't YET as good".
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And as usual, Linux is leading the way.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LOL!
>>>>>
>>>>> Linux and Windows both support ARM, your precious Apple overlords aren't
>>>>
>>>> So? How does that show Linux "leading the way"?
>>>>
>>>> There's more to leading the way that simply being able to run an OS.
>>>>
>>>> People don't use the OS: they use applications that can run on that OS.
>>>>
>>>> And Apple has lead the way in making it possible to run a program
>>>> written for a different architecture on new one.
>>>>
>>>> Motorola to PowerPC
>>>>
>>>> PowerPC to Intel
>>>>
>>>> And now, Intel to Apple Silicon.
>>>
>>> This isn't the flex you think it is.
>>>
>>>> <snip>
>>>>
>>>> And yet you can never actually articulate something that either Linux or
>>>> Windows does better.
>>>
>>> AI Overview
>>>
>>> Linux generally offers superior customization, hardware
>>> choice, open-source freedom, and powerful developer tools over
>>> macOS, allowing users to tailor the OS extensively, install it
>>> on diverse (often cheaper) hardware, use powerful command-line
>>> utilities (Bash, Docker), and benefit from community-driven
>>> innovation, making it ideal for power users, developers, and
>>> those prioritizing control and flexibility.
>>>
>>> Bottom line: Linux makes me happy!
>>
>> Speaking of customization, for Mac users, it only goas as far as putting
>> stickers representing your political beliefs on the lid of the computer.
> 
> not on any of mine.

Then, how do you hide the dent caused by merely looking at it?

>> Every desktop looks exactly the same, every computer looks exactly the
>> same.
> 
> looks at MacBook. Looks at display attached to Mac mini #1. Looks at display
> attached to Mac mini #2. Three different desktops; even the Docks are
> different, several apps are on only one of the machines. Hint: one of the Mac
> minis is a server, with multiple volumes attached.

Feel free to show us the extensive customization you've done on your 
Macs, sir.

>> Heck, the typical Apple users is so used to fitting into a mold
>> that they don't bother to change their wallpaper anymore.
> 
> Hmm. MacBook currently has a high-res image of EarthForce destroyer Agamemnon
> in orbit. Mac mini #1 has Enterprise CV-6 launching against the Kido Butai on
> the morning of 4 June 1942. Mac mini #2 has Faith, Hope, and Charity
> defending Malta. Each image is from different folders, one per machine, with
> 48 images each, rotated once every half hour.

How daring.

>> They appear to
>> be entirely devoid of any kind of unique personality to a point that
>> they all generally look the same (hipster attire, insist on hanging out
>> in coffee shops to let you know that they paid extra to get an Apple
>> product when they could just as easily work at home).
> 
> I’ve never so much as set foot in a Starbucks. Ever.

You've done yourself a favour. Starbucks has the absolute worst coffee 
I've ever tasted, and I say this as someone who experimented with Folgers.

>> I've never met Alan, but I'll bet that he wears a tuque all day long and
>> spends his day drinking what Starbucks considers to be coffee writing a
>> screenplay.
> 
> bloody hell. you need help, laddie.

Duly ignored.

-- 
CrudeSausage
John 14:6
Pop_OS!

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#704263 — Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC

FromAlan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date2026-01-04 16:25 -0800
SubjectRe: Remember when setting up a Windows PC
Message-ID<10jf0dp$2ecsd$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#704259
On 2026-01-04 16:01, CrudeSausage wrote:
> On 2026-01-04 18:44, WolfFan wrote:
>> On Jan 4, 2026, CrudeSausage wrote
>> (in article<695a6593$2$23$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>):
>>
>>> On 2026-01-04 07:08, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>> Alan wrote this post by blinking in Morse code:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2026-01-03 14:07, Joel W. Crump wrote:
>>>>>> On 1/3/26 4:57 PM, Alan wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2026-01-03 13:50, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 03 Jan 2026 20:35:17 +0000, Tyrone wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Arm CPUs are the best thing to happen to PCs since the SSD.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Second-best. RISC-V may yet surpass them. Maybe even LoongArch.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ummmm... "may yet surpass" literally means "aren't YET as good".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And as usual, Linux is leading the way.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> LOL!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Linux and Windows both support ARM, your precious Apple overlords 
>>>>>> aren't
>>>>>
>>>>> So? How does that show Linux "leading the way"?
>>>>>
>>>>> There's more to leading the way that simply being able to run an OS.
>>>>>
>>>>> People don't use the OS: they use applications that can run on that 
>>>>> OS.
>>>>>
>>>>> And Apple has lead the way in making it possible to run a program
>>>>> written for a different architecture on new one.
>>>>>
>>>>> Motorola to PowerPC
>>>>>
>>>>> PowerPC to Intel
>>>>>
>>>>> And now, Intel to Apple Silicon.
>>>>
>>>> This isn't the flex you think it is.
>>>>
>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>
>>>>> And yet you can never actually articulate something that either 
>>>>> Linux or
>>>>> Windows does better.
>>>>
>>>> AI Overview
>>>>
>>>> Linux generally offers superior customization, hardware
>>>> choice, open-source freedom, and powerful developer tools over
>>>> macOS, allowing users to tailor the OS extensively, install it
>>>> on diverse (often cheaper) hardware, use powerful command-line
>>>> utilities (Bash, Docker), and benefit from community-driven
>>>> innovation, making it ideal for power users, developers, and
>>>> those prioritizing control and flexibility.
>>>>
>>>> Bottom line: Linux makes me happy!
>>>
>>> Speaking of customization, for Mac users, it only goas as far as putting
>>> stickers representing your political beliefs on the lid of the computer.
>>
>> not on any of mine.
> 
> Then, how do you hide the dent caused by merely looking at it?

Why must you make shit up?

> 
>>> Every desktop looks exactly the same, every computer looks exactly the
>>> same.
>>
>> looks at MacBook. Looks at display attached to Mac mini #1. Looks at 
>> display
>> attached to Mac mini #2. Three different desktops; even the Docks are
>> different, several apps are on only one of the machines. Hint: one of 
>> the Mac
>> minis is a server, with multiple volumes attached.
> 
> Feel free to show us the extensive customization you've done on your 
> Macs, sir.

Feel free to show the "extensive customization" you've done to your 
Linux machine...

> 
>>> Heck, the typical Apple users is so used to fitting into a mold
>>> that they don't bother to change their wallpaper anymore.
>>
>> Hmm. MacBook currently has a high-res image of EarthForce destroyer 
>> Agamemnon
>> in orbit. Mac mini #1 has Enterprise CV-6 launching against the Kido 
>> Butai on
>> the morning of 4 June 1942. Mac mini #2 has Faith, Hope, and Charity
>> defending Malta. Each image is from different folders, one per 
>> machine, with
>> 48 images each, rotated once every half hour.
> 
> How daring.

Completely refuted by facts, you resort to belittling his choices.

You know what?

My computer's screen is pretty much always covered with active windows.

I've got something like 20-30 open at any given time. Admittedly, some 
of those are minimized, but right this moment, I've got 10 windows open 
across Thunderbird, Safari, Messages, Photos, WhatsApp, Mail, Microsoft 
Teams, NetNewsWire, and Excel.

The only people who SEE the wallpaper on a computer...

...are ones who aren't actually USING it.

> 
>>> They appear to
>>> be entirely devoid of any kind of unique personality to a point that
>>> they all generally look the same (hipster attire, insist on hanging out
>>> in coffee shops to let you know that they paid extra to get an Apple
>>> product when they could just as easily work at home).
>>
>> I’ve never so much as set foot in a Starbucks. Ever.
> 
> You've done yourself a favour. Starbucks has the absolute worst coffee 
> I've ever tasted, and I say this as someone who experimented with Folgers.

Why must you speak such bullshit?

It's certainly not the best, but don't make utterly specious comparisons.

> 
>>> I've never met Alan, but I'll bet that he wears a tuque all day long and
>>> spends his day drinking what Starbucks considers to be coffee writing a
>>> screenplay.
>>
>> bloody hell. you need help, laddie.
> 
> Duly ignored.
Yeah...you'll insult others...

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#704271 — Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC

FromWolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com>
Date2026-01-04 19:45 -0500
SubjectRe: Remember when setting up a Windows PC
Message-ID<0001HW.2F0B414702801A6F7000062E838F@news.supernews.com>
In reply to#704263
On Jan 4, 2026, Alan wrote
(in article <10jf0dp$2ecsd$2@dont-email.me>):

> On 2026-01-04 16:01, CrudeSausage wrote:
> > On 2026-01-04 18:44, WolfFan wrote:
> > > On Jan 4, 2026, CrudeSausage wrote
> > > (in article<695a6593$2$23$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>):
> > >
> > > > On 2026-01-04 07:08, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> > > > > Alan wrote this post by blinking in Morse code:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On 2026-01-03 14:07, Joel W. Crump wrote:
> > > > > > > On 1/3/26 4:57 PM, Alan wrote:
> > > > > > > > On 2026-01-03 13:50, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Sat, 03 Jan 2026 20:35:17 +0000, Tyrone wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Arm CPUs are the best thing to happen to PCs since the SSD.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Second-best. RISC-V may yet surpass them. Maybe even LoongArch.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Ummmm... "may yet surpass" literally means "aren't YET as good".
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > And as usual, Linux is leading the way.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > LOL!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Linux and Windows both support ARM, your precious Apple overlords
> > > > > > > aren't
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So? How does that show Linux "leading the way"?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There's more to leading the way that simply being able to run an OS.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > People don't use the OS: they use applications that can run on that
> > > > > > OS.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And Apple has lead the way in making it possible to run a program
> > > > > > written for a different architecture on new one.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Motorola to PowerPC
> > > > > >
> > > > > > PowerPC to Intel
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And now, Intel to Apple Silicon.
> > > > >
> > > > > This isn't the flex you think it is.
> > > > >
> > > > > > <snip>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And yet you can never actually articulate something that either
> > > > > > Linux or
> > > > > > Windows does better.
> > > > >
> > > > > AI Overview
> > > > >
> > > > > Linux generally offers superior customization, hardware
> > > > > choice, open-source freedom, and powerful developer tools over
> > > > > macOS, allowing users to tailor the OS extensively, install it
> > > > > on diverse (often cheaper) hardware, use powerful command-line
> > > > > utilities (Bash, Docker), and benefit from community-driven
> > > > > innovation, making it ideal for power users, developers, and
> > > > > those prioritizing control and flexibility.
> > > > >
> > > > > Bottom line: Linux makes me happy!
> > > >
> > > > Speaking of customization, for Mac users, it only goas as far as putting
> > > > stickers representing your political beliefs on the lid of the computer.
> > >
> > > not on any of mine.
> >
> > Then, how do you hide the dent caused by merely looking at it?
>
> Why must you make shit up?

he’s an idiot.
>
>
> >
> > > > Every desktop looks exactly the same, every computer looks exactly the
> > > > same.
> > >
> > > looks at MacBook. Looks at display attached to Mac mini #1. Looks at
> > > display
> > > attached to Mac mini #2. Three different desktops; even the Docks are
> > > different, several apps are on only one of the machines. Hint: one of
> > > the Mac
> > > minis is a server, with multiple volumes attached.
> >
> > Feel free to show us the extensive customization you've done on your
> > Macs, sir.
>
> Feel free to show the "extensive customization" you've done to your
> Linux machine...

i’m sure he changes stuff on an hourly basis.
>
>
> >
> > > > Heck, the typical Apple users is so used to fitting into a mold
> > > > that they don't bother to change their wallpaper anymore.
> > >
> > > Hmm. MacBook currently has a high-res image of EarthForce destroyer
> > > Agamemnon
> > > in orbit. Mac mini #1 has Enterprise CV-6 launching against the Kido
> > > Butai on
> > > the morning of 4 June 1942. Mac mini #2 has Faith, Hope, and Charity
> > > defending Malta. Each image is from different folders, one per
> > > machine, with
> > > 48 images each, rotated once every half hour.
> >
> > How daring.
>
> Completely refuted by facts, you resort to belittling his choices.
>
> You know what?
>
> My computer's screen is pretty much always covered with active windows.

most of the time my desktop is covered. I got stuff out of the way just to 
see what’s what. I shouldn’t have bothered.
>
>
> I've got something like 20-30 open at any given time. Admittedly, some
> of those are minimized, but right this moment, I've got 10 windows open
> across Thunderbird, Safari, Messages, Photos, WhatsApp, Mail, Microsoft
> Teams, NetNewsWire, and Excel.
>
> The only people who SEE the wallpaper on a computer...
>
> ...are ones who aren't actually USING it.
>
> >
> > > > They appear to
> > > > be entirely devoid of any kind of unique personality to a point that
> > > > they all generally look the same (hipster attire, insist on hanging out
> > > > in coffee shops to let you know that they paid extra to get an Apple
> > > > product when they could just as easily work at home).
> > >
> > > I’ve never so much as set foot in a Starbucks. Ever.
> >
> > You've done yourself a favour. Starbucks has the absolute worst coffee
> > I've ever tasted, and I say this as someone who experimented with Folgers.
>
> Why must you speak such bullshit?
>
> It's certainly not the best, but don't make utterly specious comparisons.
>
> >
> > > > I've never met Alan, but I'll bet that he wears a tuque all day long and
> > > > spends his day drinking what Starbucks considers to be coffee writing a
> > > > screenplay.
> > >
> > > bloody hell. you need help, laddie.
> >
> > Duly ignored.
> Yeah...you'll insult others...

he really needs help/

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#704286 — Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC

FromCrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>
Date2026-01-04 21:17 -0500
SubjectRe: Remember when setting up a Windows PC
Message-ID<695b1f1e$1$20$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to#704263
On 2026-01-04 19:25, Alan wrote:
> On 2026-01-04 16:01, CrudeSausage wrote:
>> On 2026-01-04 18:44, WolfFan wrote:
>>> On Jan 4, 2026, CrudeSausage wrote
>>> (in article<695a6593$2$23$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>):
>>>
>>>> On 2026-01-04 07:08, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>>> Alan wrote this post by blinking in Morse code:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2026-01-03 14:07, Joel W. Crump wrote:
>>>>>>> On 1/3/26 4:57 PM, Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2026-01-03 13:50, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 03 Jan 2026 20:35:17 +0000, Tyrone wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Arm CPUs are the best thing to happen to PCs since the SSD.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Second-best. RISC-V may yet surpass them. Maybe even LoongArch.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ummmm... "may yet surpass" literally means "aren't YET as good".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And as usual, Linux is leading the way.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> LOL!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Linux and Windows both support ARM, your precious Apple overlords 
>>>>>>> aren't
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So? How does that show Linux "leading the way"?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There's more to leading the way that simply being able to run an OS.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> People don't use the OS: they use applications that can run on 
>>>>>> that OS.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And Apple has lead the way in making it possible to run a program
>>>>>> written for a different architecture on new one.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Motorola to PowerPC
>>>>>>
>>>>>> PowerPC to Intel
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And now, Intel to Apple Silicon.
>>>>>
>>>>> This isn't the flex you think it is.
>>>>>
>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And yet you can never actually articulate something that either 
>>>>>> Linux or
>>>>>> Windows does better.
>>>>>
>>>>> AI Overview
>>>>>
>>>>> Linux generally offers superior customization, hardware
>>>>> choice, open-source freedom, and powerful developer tools over
>>>>> macOS, allowing users to tailor the OS extensively, install it
>>>>> on diverse (often cheaper) hardware, use powerful command-line
>>>>> utilities (Bash, Docker), and benefit from community-driven
>>>>> innovation, making it ideal for power users, developers, and
>>>>> those prioritizing control and flexibility.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bottom line: Linux makes me happy!
>>>>
>>>> Speaking of customization, for Mac users, it only goas as far as 
>>>> putting
>>>> stickers representing your political beliefs on the lid of the 
>>>> computer.
>>>
>>> not on any of mine.
>>
>> Then, how do you hide the dent caused by merely looking at it?
> 
> Why must you make shit up?

Considering the amount of Macs on eBay being sold with dents, it appears 
to be a serious problem on those bodies.

>>>> Every desktop looks exactly the same, every computer looks exactly the
>>>> same.
>>>
>>> looks at MacBook. Looks at display attached to Mac mini #1. Looks at 
>>> display
>>> attached to Mac mini #2. Three different desktops; even the Docks are
>>> different, several apps are on only one of the machines. Hint: one of 
>>> the Mac
>>> minis is a server, with multiple volumes attached.
>>
>> Feel free to show us the extensive customization you've done on your 
>> Macs, sir.
> 
> Feel free to show the "extensive customization" you've done to your 
> Linux machine...

And you run rather than admit that MacOS doesn't allow for 
customizations in the slightest...

< snip boring drivel >


-- 
CrudeSausage
John 14:6
Pop_OS!

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#704296 — Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC

FromAlan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date2026-01-04 18:36 -0800
SubjectRe: Remember when setting up a Windows PC
Message-ID<10jf844$2gc9k$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#704286
On 2026-01-04 18:17, CrudeSausage wrote:
> On 2026-01-04 19:25, Alan wrote:
>> On 2026-01-04 16:01, CrudeSausage wrote:
>>> On 2026-01-04 18:44, WolfFan wrote:
>>>> On Jan 4, 2026, CrudeSausage wrote
>>>> (in article<695a6593$2$23$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>):
>>>>
>>>>> On 2026-01-04 07:08, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>>>> Alan wrote this post by blinking in Morse code:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2026-01-03 14:07, Joel W. Crump wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 1/3/26 4:57 PM, Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2026-01-03 13:50, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 03 Jan 2026 20:35:17 +0000, Tyrone wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Arm CPUs are the best thing to happen to PCs since the SSD.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Second-best. RISC-V may yet surpass them. Maybe even LoongArch.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ummmm... "may yet surpass" literally means "aren't YET as good".
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And as usual, Linux is leading the way.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> LOL!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Linux and Windows both support ARM, your precious Apple 
>>>>>>>> overlords aren't
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So? How does that show Linux "leading the way"?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There's more to leading the way that simply being able to run an OS.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> People don't use the OS: they use applications that can run on 
>>>>>>> that OS.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And Apple has lead the way in making it possible to run a program
>>>>>>> written for a different architecture on new one.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Motorola to PowerPC
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> PowerPC to Intel
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And now, Intel to Apple Silicon.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This isn't the flex you think it is.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And yet you can never actually articulate something that either 
>>>>>>> Linux or
>>>>>>> Windows does better.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> AI Overview
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Linux generally offers superior customization, hardware
>>>>>> choice, open-source freedom, and powerful developer tools over
>>>>>> macOS, allowing users to tailor the OS extensively, install it
>>>>>> on diverse (often cheaper) hardware, use powerful command-line
>>>>>> utilities (Bash, Docker), and benefit from community-driven
>>>>>> innovation, making it ideal for power users, developers, and
>>>>>> those prioritizing control and flexibility.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bottom line: Linux makes me happy!
>>>>>
>>>>> Speaking of customization, for Mac users, it only goas as far as 
>>>>> putting
>>>>> stickers representing your political beliefs on the lid of the 
>>>>> computer.
>>>>
>>>> not on any of mine.
>>>
>>> Then, how do you hide the dent caused by merely looking at it?
>>
>> Why must you make shit up?
> 
> Considering the amount of Macs on eBay being sold with dents, it appears 
> to be a serious problem on those bodies.

Proof, please!

> 
>>>>> Every desktop looks exactly the same, every computer looks exactly the
>>>>> same.
>>>>
>>>> looks at MacBook. Looks at display attached to Mac mini #1. Looks at 
>>>> display
>>>> attached to Mac mini #2. Three different desktops; even the Docks are
>>>> different, several apps are on only one of the machines. Hint: one 
>>>> of the Mac
>>>> minis is a server, with multiple volumes attached.
>>>
>>> Feel free to show us the extensive customization you've done on your 
>>> Macs, sir.
>>
>> Feel free to show the "extensive customization" you've done to your 
>> Linux machine...
> 
> And you run rather than admit that MacOS doesn't allow for 
> customizations in the slightest...
I completely admit that.

Now...

...what will be your next excuse?

:-)

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#704308 — Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC

FromCrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>
Date2026-01-04 22:09 -0500
SubjectRe: Remember when setting up a Windows PC
Message-ID<695b2b81$1$20$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
In reply to#704296
On 2026-01-04 21:36, Alan wrote:
> On 2026-01-04 18:17, CrudeSausage wrote:
>> On 2026-01-04 19:25, Alan wrote:
>>> On 2026-01-04 16:01, CrudeSausage wrote:
>>>> On 2026-01-04 18:44, WolfFan wrote:
>>>>> On Jan 4, 2026, CrudeSausage wrote
>>>>> (in article<695a6593$2$23$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>):
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2026-01-04 07:08, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>>>>> Alan wrote this post by blinking in Morse code:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2026-01-03 14:07, Joel W. Crump wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 1/3/26 4:57 PM, Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 2026-01-03 13:50, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 03 Jan 2026 20:35:17 +0000, Tyrone wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Arm CPUs are the best thing to happen to PCs since the SSD.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Second-best. RISC-V may yet surpass them. Maybe even LoongArch.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ummmm... "may yet surpass" literally means "aren't YET as good".
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> And as usual, Linux is leading the way.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> LOL!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Linux and Windows both support ARM, your precious Apple 
>>>>>>>>> overlords aren't
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So? How does that show Linux "leading the way"?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There's more to leading the way that simply being able to run an 
>>>>>>>> OS.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> People don't use the OS: they use applications that can run on 
>>>>>>>> that OS.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And Apple has lead the way in making it possible to run a program
>>>>>>>> written for a different architecture on new one.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Motorola to PowerPC
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> PowerPC to Intel
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And now, Intel to Apple Silicon.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This isn't the flex you think it is.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And yet you can never actually articulate something that either 
>>>>>>>> Linux or
>>>>>>>> Windows does better.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> AI Overview
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Linux generally offers superior customization, hardware
>>>>>>> choice, open-source freedom, and powerful developer tools over
>>>>>>> macOS, allowing users to tailor the OS extensively, install it
>>>>>>> on diverse (often cheaper) hardware, use powerful command-line
>>>>>>> utilities (Bash, Docker), and benefit from community-driven
>>>>>>> innovation, making it ideal for power users, developers, and
>>>>>>> those prioritizing control and flexibility.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bottom line: Linux makes me happy!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Speaking of customization, for Mac users, it only goas as far as 
>>>>>> putting
>>>>>> stickers representing your political beliefs on the lid of the 
>>>>>> computer.
>>>>>
>>>>> not on any of mine.
>>>>
>>>> Then, how do you hide the dent caused by merely looking at it?
>>>
>>> Why must you make shit up?
>>
>> Considering the amount of Macs on eBay being sold with dents, it 
>> appears to be a serious problem on those bodies.
> 
> Proof, please!

Sure. Go to www.ebay.com, do a search for MacBook and read the 
descriptions. Dents seem to be the least worrisomeof the issues though; 
most of them have broken screens. I guess some Mac users are really ugly.

>>>>>> Every desktop looks exactly the same, every computer looks exactly 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> same.
>>>>>
>>>>> looks at MacBook. Looks at display attached to Mac mini #1. Looks 
>>>>> at display
>>>>> attached to Mac mini #2. Three different desktops; even the Docks are
>>>>> different, several apps are on only one of the machines. Hint: one 
>>>>> of the Mac
>>>>> minis is a server, with multiple volumes attached.
>>>>
>>>> Feel free to show us the extensive customization you've done on your 
>>>> Macs, sir.
>>>
>>> Feel free to show the "extensive customization" you've done to your 
>>> Linux machine...
>>
>> And you run rather than admit that MacOS doesn't allow for 
>> customizations in the slightest...
> I completely admit that.
> 
> Now...
> 
> ...what will be your next excuse?
> 
> :-)

If you're looking for the customizations I've done on my desktop, I'll 
show you the few I've done to Pop_OS! which, by default, presents me 
with most of what I want out of a desktop experience. Here is a 
screenshot of what I use though: <https://imgur.com/a/EHb95Ix>

1) The dock is on the left since there is more real estate horizontally 
than vertically.

2) Since the workspace and applications options are already available in 
the panel, I've removed them from the dock entirely.

3) I prefer the Kora icons to the default Cosmic ones, so that is what 
I'm using there.

4) I find that the dock looks better rounded rather than squared, so I 
set it up that way.

5) I find that the dock and panel look best when their opacity is no 
more than 50%.

Those are five customizations I can do without requiring a third-party, 
paid application. I could do more if I really wanted to, but I'm not 
wild with those things either.

-- 
CrudeSausage
John 14:6
Pop_OS!

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#704334 — Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC

FromAlan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date2026-01-04 23:10 -0800
SubjectRe: Remember when setting up a Windows PC
Message-ID<10jfo4b$2khoc$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#704308
On 2026-01-04 19:09, CrudeSausage wrote:
> On 2026-01-04 21:36, Alan wrote:
>> On 2026-01-04 18:17, CrudeSausage wrote:
>>> On 2026-01-04 19:25, Alan wrote:
>>>> On 2026-01-04 16:01, CrudeSausage wrote:
>>>>> On 2026-01-04 18:44, WolfFan wrote:
>>>>>> On Jan 4, 2026, CrudeSausage wrote
>>>>>> (in article<695a6593$2$23$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>):
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2026-01-04 07:08, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>>>>>> Alan wrote this post by blinking in Morse code:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2026-01-03 14:07, Joel W. Crump wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 1/3/26 4:57 PM, Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2026-01-03 13:50, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 03 Jan 2026 20:35:17 +0000, Tyrone wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arm CPUs are the best thing to happen to PCs since the SSD.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Second-best. RISC-V may yet surpass them. Maybe even LoongArch.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Ummmm... "may yet surpass" literally means "aren't YET as good".
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> And as usual, Linux is leading the way.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> LOL!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Linux and Windows both support ARM, your precious Apple 
>>>>>>>>>> overlords aren't
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So? How does that show Linux "leading the way"?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There's more to leading the way that simply being able to run 
>>>>>>>>> an OS.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> People don't use the OS: they use applications that can run on 
>>>>>>>>> that OS.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And Apple has lead the way in making it possible to run a program
>>>>>>>>> written for a different architecture on new one.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Motorola to PowerPC
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> PowerPC to Intel
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And now, Intel to Apple Silicon.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This isn't the flex you think it is.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And yet you can never actually articulate something that either 
>>>>>>>>> Linux or
>>>>>>>>> Windows does better.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> AI Overview
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Linux generally offers superior customization, hardware
>>>>>>>> choice, open-source freedom, and powerful developer tools over
>>>>>>>> macOS, allowing users to tailor the OS extensively, install it
>>>>>>>> on diverse (often cheaper) hardware, use powerful command-line
>>>>>>>> utilities (Bash, Docker), and benefit from community-driven
>>>>>>>> innovation, making it ideal for power users, developers, and
>>>>>>>> those prioritizing control and flexibility.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bottom line: Linux makes me happy!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Speaking of customization, for Mac users, it only goas as far as 
>>>>>>> putting
>>>>>>> stickers representing your political beliefs on the lid of the 
>>>>>>> computer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> not on any of mine.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then, how do you hide the dent caused by merely looking at it?
>>>>
>>>> Why must you make shit up?
>>>
>>> Considering the amount of Macs on eBay being sold with dents, it 
>>> appears to be a serious problem on those bodies.
>>
>> Proof, please!
> 
> Sure. Go to www.ebay.com, do a search for MacBook and read the 
> descriptions. Dents seem to be the least worrisomeof the issues though; 
> most of them have broken screens. I guess some Mac users are really ugly.
> 
>>>>>>> Every desktop looks exactly the same, every computer looks 
>>>>>>> exactly the
>>>>>>> same.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> looks at MacBook. Looks at display attached to Mac mini #1. Looks 
>>>>>> at display
>>>>>> attached to Mac mini #2. Three different desktops; even the Docks are
>>>>>> different, several apps are on only one of the machines. Hint: one 
>>>>>> of the Mac
>>>>>> minis is a server, with multiple volumes attached.
>>>>>
>>>>> Feel free to show us the extensive customization you've done on 
>>>>> your Macs, sir.
>>>>
>>>> Feel free to show the "extensive customization" you've done to your 
>>>> Linux machine...
>>>
>>> And you run rather than admit that MacOS doesn't allow for 
>>> customizations in the slightest...
>> I completely admit that.
>>
>> Now...
>>
>> ...what will be your next excuse?
>>
>> :-)
> 
> If you're looking for the customizations I've done on my desktop, I'll 
> show you the few I've done to Pop_OS! which, by default, presents me 
> with most of what I want out of a desktop experience. Here is a 
> screenshot of what I use though: <https://imgur.com/a/EHb95Ix>
> 
> 1) The dock is on the left since there is more real estate horizontally 
> than vertically.
> 
> 2) Since the workspace and applications options are already available in 
> the panel, I've removed them from the dock entirely.
> 
> 3) I prefer the Kora icons to the default Cosmic ones, so that is what 
> I'm using there.
> 
> 4) I find that the dock looks better rounded rather than squared, so I 
> set it up that way.
> 
> 5) I find that the dock and panel look best when their opacity is no 
> more than 50%.
> 
> Those are five customizations I can do without requiring a third-party, 
> paid application. I could do more if I really wanted to, but I'm not 
> wild with those things either.
> 

LOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!

This is TOO FUNNY!

You've shown a video of a Linux distro...

...that looks almost EXACTLY like macOS!

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLL!

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#704335 — Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC

Fromvallor <vallor@vallor.earth>
Date2026-01-05 07:38 +0000
SubjectRe: Remember when setting up a Windows PC
Message-ID<10jfpq4$2ks8i$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#704334
At Sun, 4 Jan 2026 23:10:02 -0800, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

> On 2026-01-04 19:09, CrudeSausage wrote:
> > On 2026-01-04 21:36, Alan wrote:
> >> On 2026-01-04 18:17, CrudeSausage wrote:
> >>> On 2026-01-04 19:25, Alan wrote:
> >>>> On 2026-01-04 16:01, CrudeSausage wrote:
> >>>>> On 2026-01-04 18:44, WolfFan wrote:
> >>>>>> On Jan 4, 2026, CrudeSausage wrote
> >>>>>> (in article<695a6593$2$23$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>):
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 2026-01-04 07:08, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Alan wrote this post by blinking in Morse code:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On 2026-01-03 14:07, Joel W. Crump wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On 1/3/26 4:57 PM, Alan wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On 2026-01-03 13:50, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 03 Jan 2026 20:35:17 +0000, Tyrone wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Arm CPUs are the best thing to happen to PCs since the SSD.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Second-best. RISC-V may yet surpass them. Maybe even LoongArch.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Ummmm... "may yet surpass" literally means "aren't YET as good".
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> And as usual, Linux is leading the way.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> LOL!
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Linux and Windows both support ARM, your precious Apple 
> >>>>>>>>>> overlords aren't
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> So? How does that show Linux "leading the way"?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> There's more to leading the way that simply being able to run 
> >>>>>>>>> an OS.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> People don't use the OS: they use applications that can run on 
> >>>>>>>>> that OS.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> And Apple has lead the way in making it possible to run a program
> >>>>>>>>> written for a different architecture on new one.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Motorola to PowerPC
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> PowerPC to Intel
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> And now, Intel to Apple Silicon.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> This isn't the flex you think it is.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> <snip>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> And yet you can never actually articulate something that either 
> >>>>>>>>> Linux or
> >>>>>>>>> Windows does better.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> AI Overview
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Linux generally offers superior customization, hardware
> >>>>>>>> choice, open-source freedom, and powerful developer tools over
> >>>>>>>> macOS, allowing users to tailor the OS extensively, install it
> >>>>>>>> on diverse (often cheaper) hardware, use powerful command-line
> >>>>>>>> utilities (Bash, Docker), and benefit from community-driven
> >>>>>>>> innovation, making it ideal for power users, developers, and
> >>>>>>>> those prioritizing control and flexibility.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Bottom line: Linux makes me happy!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Speaking of customization, for Mac users, it only goas as far as 
> >>>>>>> putting
> >>>>>>> stickers representing your political beliefs on the lid of the 
> >>>>>>> computer.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> not on any of mine.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Then, how do you hide the dent caused by merely looking at it?
> >>>>
> >>>> Why must you make shit up?
> >>>
> >>> Considering the amount of Macs on eBay being sold with dents, it 
> >>> appears to be a serious problem on those bodies.
> >>
> >> Proof, please!
> > 
> > Sure. Go to www.ebay.com, do a search for MacBook and read the 
> > descriptions. Dents seem to be the least worrisomeof the issues though; 
> > most of them have broken screens. I guess some Mac users are really ugly.
> > 
> >>>>>>> Every desktop looks exactly the same, every computer looks 
> >>>>>>> exactly the
> >>>>>>> same.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> looks at MacBook. Looks at display attached to Mac mini #1. Looks 
> >>>>>> at display
> >>>>>> attached to Mac mini #2. Three different desktops; even the Docks are
> >>>>>> different, several apps are on only one of the machines. Hint: one 
> >>>>>> of the Mac
> >>>>>> minis is a server, with multiple volumes attached.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Feel free to show us the extensive customization you've done on 
> >>>>> your Macs, sir.
> >>>>
> >>>> Feel free to show the "extensive customization" you've done to your 
> >>>> Linux machine...
> >>>
> >>> And you run rather than admit that MacOS doesn't allow for 
> >>> customizations in the slightest...
> >> I completely admit that.
> >>
> >> Now...
> >>
> >> ...what will be your next excuse?
> >>
> >> :-)
> > 
> > If you're looking for the customizations I've done on my desktop, I'll 
> > show you the few I've done to Pop_OS! which, by default, presents me 
> > with most of what I want out of a desktop experience. Here is a 
> > screenshot of what I use though: <https://imgur.com/a/EHb95Ix>
> > 
> > 1) The dock is on the left since there is more real estate horizontally 
> > than vertically.
> > 
> > 2) Since the workspace and applications options are already available in 
> > the panel, I've removed them from the dock entirely.
> > 
> > 3) I prefer the Kora icons to the default Cosmic ones, so that is what 
> > I'm using there.
> > 
> > 4) I find that the dock looks better rounded rather than squared, so I 
> > set it up that way.
> > 
> > 5) I find that the dock and panel look best when their opacity is no 
> > more than 50%.
> > 
> > Those are five customizations I can do without requiring a third-party, 
> > paid application. I could do more if I really wanted to, but I'm not 
> > wild with those things either.
> > 
> 
> LOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!
> 
> This is TOO FUNNY!
> 
> You've shown a video of a Linux distro...
> 
> ...that looks almost EXACTLY like macOS!
> 
> LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLL!

I don't get it.  I thought he showed an imgur image
of Cinnamon...

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#704336 — Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC

FromAlan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date2026-01-05 00:24 -0800
SubjectRe: Remember when setting up a Windows PC
Message-ID<10jfsfq$2kpn5$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#704335
On 2026-01-04 23:38, vallor wrote:
>>> If you're looking for the customizations I've done on my desktop, I'll
>>> show you the few I've done to Pop_OS! which, by default, presents me
>>> with most of what I want out of a desktop experience. Here is a
>>> screenshot of what I use though:<https://imgur.com/a/EHb95Ix>
>>>
>>> 1) The dock is on the left since there is more real estate horizontally
>>> than vertically.
>>>
>>> 2) Since the workspace and applications options are already available in
>>> the panel, I've removed them from the dock entirely.
>>>
>>> 3) I prefer the Kora icons to the default Cosmic ones, so that is what
>>> I'm using there.
>>>
>>> 4) I find that the dock looks better rounded rather than squared, so I
>>> set it up that way.
>>>
>>> 5) I find that the dock and panel look best when their opacity is no
>>> more than 50%.
>>>
>>> Those are five customizations I can do without requiring a third-party,
>>> paid application. I could do more if I really wanted to, but I'm not
>>> wild with those things either.
>>>
>> LOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!
>>
>> This is TOO FUNNY!
>>
>> You've shown a video of a Linux distro...
>>
>> ...that looks almost EXACTLY like macOS!
>>
>> LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLL!
> I don't get it.  I thought he showed an imgur image
> of Cinnamon...

Are you kidding?

Dock: it might be on the left, but it's pretty much identical to macOS 
(which can put it on the left if you prefer.

Menu bar: a group of small icons at the righthand end... ...just like macOS.

Folder window: a little simpler perhaps, but still so much like a macOS 
Finder window, it's hilarious!

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#704337 — Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC

Fromvallor <vallor@vallor.earth>
Date2026-01-05 11:20 +0000
SubjectRe: Remember when setting up a Windows PC
Message-ID<10jg6ps$2oo2m$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#704336
At Mon, 5 Jan 2026 00:24:26 -0800, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

> On 2026-01-04 23:38, vallor wrote:
> >>> If you're looking for the customizations I've done on my desktop, I'll
> >>> show you the few I've done to Pop_OS! which, by default, presents me
> >>> with most of what I want out of a desktop experience. Here is a
> >>> screenshot of what I use though:<https://imgur.com/a/EHb95Ix>
> >>>
> >>> 1) The dock is on the left since there is more real estate horizontally
> >>> than vertically.
> >>>
> >>> 2) Since the workspace and applications options are already available in
> >>> the panel, I've removed them from the dock entirely.
> >>>
> >>> 3) I prefer the Kora icons to the default Cosmic ones, so that is what
> >>> I'm using there.
> >>>
> >>> 4) I find that the dock looks better rounded rather than squared, so I
> >>> set it up that way.
> >>>
> >>> 5) I find that the dock and panel look best when their opacity is no
> >>> more than 50%.
> >>>
> >>> Those are five customizations I can do without requiring a third-party,
> >>> paid application. I could do more if I really wanted to, but I'm not
> >>> wild with those things either.
> >>>
> >> LOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!
> >>
> >> This is TOO FUNNY!
> >>
> >> You've shown a video of a Linux distro...
> >>
> >> ...that looks almost EXACTLY like macOS!
> >>
> >> LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLL!
> > I don't get it.  I thought he showed an imgur image
> > of Cinnamon...
> 
> Are you kidding?
> 
> Dock: it might be on the left, but it's pretty much identical to macOS 
> (which can put it on the left if you prefer.
> 
> Menu bar: a group of small icons at the righthand end... ...just like macOS.
> 
And a lot of other Unix workstations.  Your point?


> Folder window: a little simpler perhaps, but still so much like a macOS 
> Finder window, it's hilarious!

How ccan you identify the MacOS finder, as opposed to any other file
browser?

-- 
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#704354 — Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC

From"Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2026-01-05 11:33 -0500
SubjectRe: Remember when setting up a Windows PC
Message-ID<RJR6R.1957803$Bg93.1407260@fx16.iad>
In reply to#704337
On 1/5/26 6:20 AM, vallor wrote:
> At Mon, 5 Jan 2026 00:24:26 -0800, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>> On 2026-01-04 23:38, vallor wrote:

>>>>> If you're looking for the customizations I've done on my desktop, I'll
>>>>> show you the few I've done to Pop_OS! which, by default, presents me
>>>>> with most of what I want out of a desktop experience. Here is a
>>>>> screenshot of what I use though:<https://imgur.com/a/EHb95Ix>
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) The dock is on the left since there is more real estate horizontally
>>>>> than vertically.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2) Since the workspace and applications options are already available in
>>>>> the panel, I've removed them from the dock entirely.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3) I prefer the Kora icons to the default Cosmic ones, so that is what
>>>>> I'm using there.
>>>>>
>>>>> 4) I find that the dock looks better rounded rather than squared, so I
>>>>> set it up that way.
>>>>>
>>>>> 5) I find that the dock and panel look best when their opacity is no
>>>>> more than 50%.
>>>>>
>>>>> Those are five customizations I can do without requiring a third-party,
>>>>> paid application. I could do more if I really wanted to, but I'm not
>>>>> wild with those things either.
>>>>>
>>>> LOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!
>>>>
>>>> This is TOO FUNNY!
>>>>
>>>> You've shown a video of a Linux distro...
>>>>
>>>> ...that looks almost EXACTLY like macOS!
>>>>
>>>> LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLL!

>>> I don't get it.  I thought he showed an imgur image
>>> of Cinnamon...
>>
>> Are you kidding?
>>
>> Dock: it might be on the left, but it's pretty much identical to macOS
>> (which can put it on the left if you prefer.
>>
>> Menu bar: a group of small icons at the righthand end... ...just like macOS.
>>
> And a lot of other Unix workstations.  Your point?
> 
>> Folder window: a little simpler perhaps, but still so much like a macOS
>> Finder window, it's hilarious!
> 
> How ccan you identify the MacOS finder, as opposed to any other file
> browser?


Alan is Apple-centric, so his comments reflect that - he's a goofball.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

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#704351 — Re: Remember when setting up a Windows PC

FromCrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>
Date2026-01-05 10:42 -0500
SubjectRe: Remember when setting up a Windows PC
Message-ID<TYQ6R.78114$kpS9.18993@fx03.iad>
In reply to#704335
On 2026-01-05 2:38 a.m., vallor wrote:
> At Sun, 4 Jan 2026 23:10:02 -0800, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 2026-01-04 19:09, CrudeSausage wrote:
>>> On 2026-01-04 21:36, Alan wrote:
>>>> On 2026-01-04 18:17, CrudeSausage wrote:
>>>>> On 2026-01-04 19:25, Alan wrote:
>>>>>> On 2026-01-04 16:01, CrudeSausage wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2026-01-04 18:44, WolfFan wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Jan 4, 2026, CrudeSausage wrote
>>>>>>>> (in article<695a6593$2$23$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>):
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2026-01-04 07:08, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Alan wrote this post by blinking in Morse code:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2026-01-03 14:07, Joel W. Crump wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/3/26 4:57 PM, Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2026-01-03 13:50, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 03 Jan 2026 20:35:17 +0000, Tyrone wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arm CPUs are the best thing to happen to PCs since the SSD.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Second-best. RISC-V may yet surpass them. Maybe even LoongArch.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ummmm... "may yet surpass" literally means "aren't YET as good".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And as usual, Linux is leading the way.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> LOL!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Linux and Windows both support ARM, your precious Apple
>>>>>>>>>>>> overlords aren't
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So? How does that show Linux "leading the way"?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> There's more to leading the way that simply being able to run
>>>>>>>>>>> an OS.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> People don't use the OS: they use applications that can run on
>>>>>>>>>>> that OS.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> And Apple has lead the way in making it possible to run a program
>>>>>>>>>>> written for a different architecture on new one.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Motorola to PowerPC
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> PowerPC to Intel
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> And now, Intel to Apple Silicon.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This isn't the flex you think it is.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> And yet you can never actually articulate something that either
>>>>>>>>>>> Linux or
>>>>>>>>>>> Windows does better.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> AI Overview
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Linux generally offers superior customization, hardware
>>>>>>>>>> choice, open-source freedom, and powerful developer tools over
>>>>>>>>>> macOS, allowing users to tailor the OS extensively, install it
>>>>>>>>>> on diverse (often cheaper) hardware, use powerful command-line
>>>>>>>>>> utilities (Bash, Docker), and benefit from community-driven
>>>>>>>>>> innovation, making it ideal for power users, developers, and
>>>>>>>>>> those prioritizing control and flexibility.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Bottom line: Linux makes me happy!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Speaking of customization, for Mac users, it only goas as far as
>>>>>>>>> putting
>>>>>>>>> stickers representing your political beliefs on the lid of the
>>>>>>>>> computer.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> not on any of mine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Then, how do you hide the dent caused by merely looking at it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why must you make shit up?
>>>>>
>>>>> Considering the amount of Macs on eBay being sold with dents, it
>>>>> appears to be a serious problem on those bodies.
>>>>
>>>> Proof, please!
>>>
>>> Sure. Go to www.ebay.com, do a search for MacBook and read the
>>> descriptions. Dents seem to be the least worrisomeof the issues though;
>>> most of them have broken screens. I guess some Mac users are really ugly.
>>>
>>>>>>>>> Every desktop looks exactly the same, every computer looks
>>>>>>>>> exactly the
>>>>>>>>> same.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> looks at MacBook. Looks at display attached to Mac mini #1. Looks
>>>>>>>> at display
>>>>>>>> attached to Mac mini #2. Three different desktops; even the Docks are
>>>>>>>> different, several apps are on only one of the machines. Hint: one
>>>>>>>> of the Mac
>>>>>>>> minis is a server, with multiple volumes attached.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Feel free to show us the extensive customization you've done on
>>>>>>> your Macs, sir.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Feel free to show the "extensive customization" you've done to your
>>>>>> Linux machine...
>>>>>
>>>>> And you run rather than admit that MacOS doesn't allow for
>>>>> customizations in the slightest...
>>>> I completely admit that.
>>>>
>>>> Now...
>>>>
>>>> ...what will be your next excuse?
>>>>
>>>> :-)
>>>
>>> If you're looking for the customizations I've done on my desktop, I'll
>>> show you the few I've done to Pop_OS! which, by default, presents me
>>> with most of what I want out of a desktop experience. Here is a
>>> screenshot of what I use though: <https://imgur.com/a/EHb95Ix>
>>>
>>> 1) The dock is on the left since there is more real estate horizontally
>>> than vertically.
>>>
>>> 2) Since the workspace and applications options are already available in
>>> the panel, I've removed them from the dock entirely.
>>>
>>> 3) I prefer the Kora icons to the default Cosmic ones, so that is what
>>> I'm using there.
>>>
>>> 4) I find that the dock looks better rounded rather than squared, so I
>>> set it up that way.
>>>
>>> 5) I find that the dock and panel look best when their opacity is no
>>> more than 50%.
>>>
>>> Those are five customizations I can do without requiring a third-party,
>>> paid application. I could do more if I really wanted to, but I'm not
>>> wild with those things either.
>>>
>>
>> LOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!
>>
>> This is TOO FUNNY!
>>
>> You've shown a video of a Linux distro...
>>
>> ...that looks almost EXACTLY like macOS!
>>
>> LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLL!
> 
> I don't get it.  I thought he showed an imgur image
> of Cinnamon...

No, it's a slightly modified Cosmic desktop in Pop_OS!. He's shocked 
that Linux provides desktop environments which are similar to both 
Windows and MacOS. I guess those horse blinders Apple put on his head 
when he became a zealot prevent him from noticing such things.

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