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| Started by | "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2025-08-24 19:45 -0400 |
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I may have underestimated Microsoft "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-24 19:45 -0400
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-25 01:00 +0000
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-24 21:18 -0400
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft CtrlAltDel <Altie@Bham.com> - 2025-08-25 02:16 +0000
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-24 22:27 -0400
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-25 02:35 +0000
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-24 23:10 -0400
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-25 03:39 +0000
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-24 23:50 -0400
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-25 04:30 +0000
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-25 02:35 -0400
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-25 07:11 +0000
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-25 03:41 -0400
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-25 07:49 +0000
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-25 04:01 -0400
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-25 08:15 +0000
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft Not Necessary <not@necessary.invalid> - 2025-08-25 14:29 +0530
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft CtrlAltDel <Altie@AL.invalid> - 2025-08-25 09:48 +0000
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft Not Necessary <not@necessary.invalid> - 2025-08-25 08:53 +0000
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-25 09:28 +0000
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-25 09:45 -0400
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-08-25 14:38 -0500
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-08-25 06:06 +0000
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-25 02:46 -0400
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-25 07:12 +0000
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-25 09:27 -0400
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-08-25 14:35 -0500
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-25 17:07 -0400
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-26 01:52 +0000
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-26 09:47 -0400
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jaworski1978@adres.pl> - 2025-08-25 05:12 +0200
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-24 23:20 -0400
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-25 04:26 +0000
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-08-25 06:03 +0000
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-25 02:44 -0400
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-25 07:13 +0000
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-25 03:43 -0400
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-25 08:16 +0000
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-25 04:35 -0400
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-25 09:29 +0000
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-25 05:46 -0400
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-25 21:54 +0000
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-25 18:07 -0400
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-26 01:54 +0000
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-26 08:41 -0400
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-26 03:46 +0000
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft CtrlAltDel <Altie@AL.invalid> - 2025-08-25 08:51 +0000
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-08-25 14:59 -0500
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-25 16:31 -0400
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft CtrlAltDel <Altie@AL.invalid> - 2025-08-25 22:23 +0000
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft CtrlAltDel <Altie@AL.invalid> - 2025-08-25 22:26 +0000
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-25 19:39 -0400
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-25 19:39 -0400
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft CtrlAltDel <Altie@AL.invalid> - 2025-08-25 23:54 +0000
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-25 20:06 -0400
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-26 01:55 +0000
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-08-26 07:45 +0000
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-08-26 22:50 +0000
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-27 01:33 +0000
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-08-27 06:38 +0000
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-26 09:51 -0400
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-26 10:02 -0400
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-26 18:57 +0000
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-26 15:09 -0400
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-26 15:45 -0400
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-08-26 17:09 -0500
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-26 19:33 -0400
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-08-26 19:39 -0400
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-08-27 06:35 +0000
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-27 09:07 -0400
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-08-28 06:14 +0000
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-28 08:53 -0400
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-28 17:35 +0000
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-08-29 06:36 +0000
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-29 17:05 +0000
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-08-30 06:07 +0000
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-30 06:26 +0000
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-29 08:31 -0400
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-08-28 16:33 -0500
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-08-29 06:37 +0000
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-08-30 06:09 +0000
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-29 08:35 -0400
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-08-29 06:32 +0000
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-29 08:46 -0400
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-08-30 06:01 +0000
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-08-31 00:31 +0000
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-31 10:06 -0400
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-08-31 19:29 +0000
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-01 08:26 -0400
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-09-02 06:47 +0000
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-02 09:10 -0400
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-09-03 10:18 +0000
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-01 02:48 +0000
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-09-01 08:43 -0400
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-02 03:54 +0000
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-09-02 21:50 +0000
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-09-02 23:07 +0000
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-03 03:24 +0000
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-09-03 04:09 +0000
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-03 04:13 +0000
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-03 08:04 +0000
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-03 04:14 +0000
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-27 19:48 +0000
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-08-28 06:17 +0000
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-08-27 06:33 +0000
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-27 09:07 -0400
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-28 00:43 +0000
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-08-28 06:12 +0000
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-08-28 15:41 +0000
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-28 17:40 +0000
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-08-29 06:30 +0000
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-08-28 06:07 +0000
Re: I may have underestimated Microsoft CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-08-28 08:50 -0400
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| From | "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-08-25 05:46 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <PhWqQ.253330$nuHb.147869@fx10.iad> |
| In reply to | #695934 |
On 8/25/2025 5:29 AM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: >>>> The first time I installed Debian, many years ago, on an ancient >>>> system, when it booted it instantly hacked into my neighbor's WiFi >>>> to phone home. >>> >>> That doesn’t make sense. Debian doesn’t do anything you don’t tell >>> it to do. >> >> Of course it doesn't make sense, it was weird. The WiFi in question >> had weak security. But it happened. > > It asked you to pick a network, and you picked the wrong one? It did it autonomously. -- Joel W. Crump
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| From | Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-08-25 21:54 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <108im34$3mbt8$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #695935 |
On Mon, 25 Aug 2025 05:46:23 -0400, Joel W. Crump wrote: > On 8/25/2025 5:29 AM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: > >>>>> The first time I installed Debian, many years ago, on an ancient >>>>> system, when it booted it instantly hacked into my neighbor's WiFi >>>>> to phone home. >>>> >>>> That doesn’t make sense. Debian doesn’t do anything you don’t tell it >>>> to do. >>> >>> Of course it doesn't make sense, it was weird. The WiFi in question >>> had weak security. But it happened. >> >> It asked you to pick a network, and you picked the wrong one? > > It did it autonomously. I think your memory is faulty.
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| From | "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-08-25 18:07 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <y85rQ.183127$LeZ.19196@fx11.iad> |
| In reply to | #695971 |
On 8/25/2025 5:54 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: >>>>>> The first time I installed Debian, many years ago, on an ancient >>>>>> system, when it booted it instantly hacked into my neighbor's WiFi >>>>>> to phone home. >>>>> >>>>> That doesn’t make sense. Debian doesn’t do anything you don’t tell it >>>>> to do. >>>> >>>> Of course it doesn't make sense, it was weird. The WiFi in question >>>> had weak security. But it happened. >>> >>> It asked you to pick a network, and you picked the wrong one? >> >> It did it autonomously. > > I think your memory is faulty. That's because you are delusional. -- Joel W. Crump
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| From | Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-08-26 01:54 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <108j443$3p9li$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #695972 |
On Mon, 25 Aug 2025 18:07:26 -0400, Joel W. Crump wrote: > On 8/25/2025 5:54 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: > >>>>>>> The first time I installed Debian, many years ago, on an >>>>>>> ancient system, when it booted it instantly hacked into my >>>>>>> neighbor's WiFi to phone home. >>>>>> >>>>>> That doesn’t make sense. Debian doesn’t do anything you don’t tell >>>>>> it to do. >>>>> >>>>> Of course it doesn't make sense, it was weird. The WiFi in >>>>> question had weak security. But it happened. >>>> >>>> It asked you to pick a network, and you picked the wrong one? >>> >>> It did it autonomously. >> >> I think your memory is faulty. > > That's because you are delusional. If you start calling people who disagree with you “delusional”, that’s a sign of needing help.
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| From | "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-08-26 08:41 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <3YhrQ.410028$6hp4.190850@fx17.iad> |
| In reply to | #695993 |
On 8/25/2025 9:54 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: >>>>>>>> The first time I installed Debian, many years ago, on an >>>>>>>> ancient system, when it booted it instantly hacked into my >>>>>>>> neighbor's WiFi to phone home. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That doesn’t make sense. Debian doesn’t do anything you don’t tell >>>>>>> it to do. >>>>>> >>>>>> Of course it doesn't make sense, it was weird. The WiFi in >>>>>> question had weak security. But it happened. >>>>> >>>>> It asked you to pick a network, and you picked the wrong one? >>>> >>>> It did it autonomously. >>> >>> I think your memory is faulty. >> >> That's because you are delusional. > > If you start calling people who disagree with you “delusional”, that’s a > sign of needing help. Then why are you starting it by disregarding what I said, weirdo? -- Joel W. Crump
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-08-26 03:46 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mh4p1hFl747U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #695971 |
On Mon, 25 Aug 2025 21:54:44 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: > On Mon, 25 Aug 2025 05:46:23 -0400, Joel W. Crump wrote: > >> On 8/25/2025 5:29 AM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: >> >>>>>> The first time I installed Debian, many years ago, on an ancient >>>>>> system, when it booted it instantly hacked into my neighbor's WiFi >>>>>> to phone home. >>>>> >>>>> That doesn’t make sense. Debian doesn’t do anything you don’t tell >>>>> it to do. >>>> >>>> Of course it doesn't make sense, it was weird. The WiFi in question >>>> had weak security. But it happened. >>> >>> It asked you to pick a network, and you picked the wrong one? >> >> It did it autonomously. > > I think your memory is faulty. I don't know about Linux but when I was at my brother's house quite a few years ago, I fired up my laptop, XP iirc, to use a map application and was surprised to find I had internet access. It had found an unsecured WAP and connected. I verified with his wife that their internet was wired with no WiFi. She was barely computer literate and he had no interest at all so I'm sure they didn't have any LAN set up.
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| From | CtrlAltDel <Altie@AL.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-08-25 08:51 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <108h85q$ikg1$3@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #695927 |
On Mon, 25 Aug 2025 08:16:17 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: > On Mon, 25 Aug 2025 03:43:54 -0400, Joel W. Crump wrote: > >> On 8/25/2025 3:13 AM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: >> >>>> If it's not a backdoor, it's definitely a "phoning home" thing, code >>>> that monitors the user. >>> >>> Do you have any evidence of this? >>> >>> Remember, you have extensive monitoring tools for this very purpose, >>> available in all the common Linux distros. >> >> The first time I installed Debian, many years ago, on an ancient >> system, >> when it booted it instantly hacked into my neighbor's WiFi to phone >> home. > > That doesn’t make sense. Debian doesn’t do anything you don’t tell it to > do. He was mistaking ET phoning home with Debian phoning home. In the minds of schizos, things get jumbled.
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| From | chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-08-25 14:59 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <o3gpaklb0mia0a5qrnvctllgbak3qie3rt@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #695856 |
Joel W. Crump wrote: >Win11 24H2's changes really are a breakthrough, >potentially at least, In what way? I've never noticed any of the "big changes" in Win 11.
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| From | "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-08-25 16:31 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <_K3rQ.200551$%RW3.12353@fx14.iad> |
| In reply to | #695962 |
On 8/25/2025 3:59 PM, chrisv wrote: >> Win11 24H2's changes really are a breakthrough, >> potentially at least, > > In what way? I've never noticed any of the "big changes" in Win 11. The thing is, I could be being fooled by MS, like it's running great on a new device but it won't last, and I'll end up putting Linux on the thing, but this time I don't anticipate that. I think they're actually trying to get their act together. I think the under-the-hood modifications in 24H2 really are meant to break away from the bloatware motif. -- Joel W. Crump
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| From | CtrlAltDel <Altie@AL.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-08-25 22:23 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <108inos$jlmi$1@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #695964 |
On Mon, 25 Aug 2025 16:31:54 -0400, Joel W. Crump wrote: > The thing is, I could be being fooled by MS, like it's running great on > a new device but it won't last, and I'll end up putting Linux on the > thing, but this time I don't anticipate that. I think they're actually > trying to get their act together. I think the under-the-hood > modifications in 24H2 really are meant to break away from the bloatware > motif. Just don't update, whatever you do. It will likely destroy your drives, as discussed here: https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/1mtcgkg/ report_microsofts_latest_windows_11_24h2_update/
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| From | CtrlAltDel <Altie@AL.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-08-25 22:26 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <108inul$jlmi$2@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #695974 |
On Mon, 25 Aug 2025 22:23:25 -0000 (UTC), CtrlAltDel wrote: > > Just don't update, whatever you do. It will likely destroy your drives, > as discussed here: > > https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/1mtcgkg/ > report_microsofts_latest_windows_11_24h2_update/ I'd also like to add that you should exercise extreme caution, over and above other users of this OS, Joel, because you know they are out to get you, bro. It would be a shame if your brand new mini-box suddenly went down in flames.
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| From | CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> |
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| Date | 2025-08-25 19:39 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <Uu6rQ.303771$jMMa.106095@fx09.iad> |
| In reply to | #695975 |
On 2025-08-25 6:26 p.m., CtrlAltDel wrote: > On Mon, 25 Aug 2025 22:23:25 -0000 (UTC), CtrlAltDel wrote: > >> >> Just don't update, whatever you do. It will likely destroy your drives, >> as discussed here: >> >> https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/1mtcgkg/ >> report_microsofts_latest_windows_11_24h2_update/ > > > I'd also like to add that you should exercise extreme caution, over and > above other users of this OS, Joel, because you know they are out to get > you, bro. > > It would be a shame if your brand new mini-box suddenly went down in > flames. Think of all the homosexual porn he'll lose! -- God be with you, CrudeSausage Islam is the enemy John 14:6
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| From | CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> |
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| Date | 2025-08-25 19:39 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <vu6rQ.303760$jMMa.198970@fx09.iad> |
| In reply to | #695974 |
On 2025-08-25 6:23 p.m., CtrlAltDel wrote: > On Mon, 25 Aug 2025 16:31:54 -0400, Joel W. Crump wrote: > > >> The thing is, I could be being fooled by MS, like it's running great on >> a new device but it won't last, and I'll end up putting Linux on the >> thing, but this time I don't anticipate that. I think they're actually >> trying to get their act together. I think the under-the-hood >> modifications in 24H2 really are meant to break away from the bloatware >> motif. > > Just don't update, whatever you do. It will likely destroy your drives, > as discussed here: > > https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/1mtcgkg/ > report_microsofts_latest_windows_11_24h2_update/ I updated before the news came out. Fortunately, I don't have a storage device among the list they provided. However, anyone who decided to take advantage of a sweet deal on Kingston NVMEs is probably pissed right now. Needless to say, the mere fact that updates could even do such a thing should give lots of people reason to move away from Windows. It's unforgivable that people would have to lose all their data because Microsoft decided that regular users can now replace a proper beta-testing team. -- God be with you, CrudeSausage Islam is the enemy John 14:6
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| From | CtrlAltDel <Altie@AL.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-08-25 23:54 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <108it45$jlmi$4@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #695979 |
On Mon, 25 Aug 2025 19:39:07 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote: > I updated before the news came out. Fortunately, I don't have a storage > device among the list they provided. However, anyone who decided to take > advantage of a sweet deal on Kingston NVMEs is probably pissed right > now. > > Needless to say, the mere fact that updates could even do such a thing > should give lots of people reason to move away from Windows. It's > unforgivable that people would have to lose all their data because > Microsoft decided that regular users can now replace a proper > beta-testing team. It doesn't seem like Microsoft would really care one way or another what happened to their users.
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| From | CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> |
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| Date | 2025-08-25 20:06 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mU6rQ.211530$%RW3.137666@fx14.iad> |
| In reply to | #695981 |
On 2025-08-25 7:54 p.m., CtrlAltDel wrote: > On Mon, 25 Aug 2025 19:39:07 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote: > >> I updated before the news came out. Fortunately, I don't have a storage >> device among the list they provided. However, anyone who decided to take >> advantage of a sweet deal on Kingston NVMEs is probably pissed right >> now. >> >> Needless to say, the mere fact that updates could even do such a thing >> should give lots of people reason to move away from Windows. It's >> unforgivable that people would have to lose all their data because >> Microsoft decided that regular users can now replace a proper >> beta-testing team. > > It doesn't seem like Microsoft would really care one way or another what > happened to their users. In a way, it seems as though they don't see Linux as a threat at all. -- God be with you, CrudeSausage Islam is the enemy John 14:6
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| From | Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-08-26 01:55 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <108j468$3p9li$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #695982 |
On Mon, 25 Aug 2025 20:06:42 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
> In a way, it seems as though they don't see Linux as a threat at all.
“First they ignore you; then they laugh at you; then they fight you; then
you win.”
-- Mohandas K Gandhi
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| From | RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-08-26 07:45 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <108jon2$3tbec$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #695994 |
On 2025-08-26, Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: > On Mon, 25 Aug 2025 20:06:42 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote: > >> In a way, it seems as though they don't see Linux as a threat at all. > > “First they ignore you; then they laugh at you; then they fight you; then > you win.” > -- Mohandas K Gandhi According to a U.S. government site, computers connecting to their servers in the last 90 days are now at 6.5% Linux. Compare that to Macs at 11.5%. Windows (all versions) at 32.4%. iOS at 32.4%. Android at 16.3%. ChromeOS at 1%. https://analytics.usa.gov/ Lansweeper is showing them over 6% as well. https://www.zdnet.com/article/think-linux-desktop-market-share-isnt-over-6- this-15-million-system-scan-says-otherwise/ -- Definition of Insanity: Thinking you can beat the Bear on his own territory.
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| From | Tyrone <none@none.none> |
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| Date | 2025-08-26 22:50 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <fI-cnavsceinpzP1nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@supernews.com> |
| In reply to | #696000 |
On Aug 26, 2025 at 3:45:38 AM EDT, "RonB" <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote: > On 2025-08-26, Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: >> On Mon, 25 Aug 2025 20:06:42 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote: >> >>> In a way, it seems as though they don't see Linux as a threat at all. >> >> “First they ignore you; then they laugh at you; then they fight you; then >> you win.” >> -- Mohandas K Gandhi > > According to a U.S. government site, computers connecting to their servers > in the last 90 days are now at 6.5% Linux. Compare that to Macs at 11.5%. > Windows (all versions) at 32.4%. iOS at 32.4%. Android at 16.3%. ChromeOS at > 1%. So Apple's total is nearly half. 11.5 + 32.4 = 43.9%. The last person who posted these stats conveniently "forgot" to post the iOS number.
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| From | Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-08-27 01:33 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <108ln8g$cpfr$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #696042 |
On Tue, 26 Aug 2025 22:50:34 +0000, Tyrone wrote: > The last person who posted these stats conveniently "forgot" to post the > iOS number. But then, if you include IOS, you have to include Android. And Android outnumbers Windows about 4:1.
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| From | RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-08-27 06:38 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <108m95s$g39p$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #696042 |
On 2025-08-26, Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote: > On Aug 26, 2025 at 3:45:38 AM EDT, "RonB" <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 2025-08-26, Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: >>> On Mon, 25 Aug 2025 20:06:42 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote: >>> >>>> In a way, it seems as though they don't see Linux as a threat at all. >>> >>> “First they ignore you; then they laugh at you; then they fight you; then >>> you win.” >>> -- Mohandas K Gandhi >> >> According to a U.S. government site, computers connecting to their servers >> in the last 90 days are now at 6.5% Linux. Compare that to Macs at 11.5%. >> Windows (all versions) at 32.4%. iOS at 32.4%. Android at 16.3%. ChromeOS at >> 1%. > > So Apple's total is nearly half. 11.5 + 32.4 = 43.9%. > > The last person who posted these stats conveniently "forgot" to post the iOS > number. Just shows you how many people aren't using desktops and laptops any more. You add Android to iOS and you've got almost half of those accessing these government websites using mobile devices. It should be noted that this is the U.S. only. I don't know what the figures look like worldwide. -- Definition of Insanity: Thinking you can beat the Bear on his own territory.
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