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  No more launching files from Nautilus Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-16 15:48 -0700
    Re: No more launching files from Nautilus Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-05-16 23:06 +0000
      Re: No more launching files from Nautilus owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-16 23:14 +0000
        Re: No more launching files from Nautilus Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-05-16 23:25 +0000
          Re: No more launching files from Nautilus owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-17 00:16 +0000
            Re: No more launching files from Nautilus Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-05-17 00:38 +0000
              Re: No more launching files from Nautilus owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-17 02:12 +0000
              Re: No more launching files from Nautilus Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-17 08:45 -0400
                Re: No more launching files from Nautilus Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-17 07:01 -0700
              Re: No more launching files from Nautilus Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-05-17 11:15 -0500
                Re: No more launching files from Nautilus Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-17 13:40 -0400
              Re: No more launching files from Nautilus RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 20:35 +0000
                Re: No more launching files from Nautilus Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-23 13:47 -0700
            Re: No more launching files from Nautilus Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-16 19:48 -0700
              Re: No more launching files from Nautilus Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-05-17 03:02 +0000
                Re: No more launching files from Nautilus Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-16 20:14 -0700
                Re: No more launching files from Nautilus Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-17 08:55 -0400
                  Re: No more launching files from Nautilus Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-17 07:02 -0700
        Re: No more launching files from Nautilus Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-18 02:43 -0700
      Re: No more launching files from Nautilus Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-16 19:46 -0700
    Re: No more launching files from Nautilus owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-16 23:12 +0000
      Re: No more launching files from Nautilus Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-16 19:45 -0700
      Re: No more launching files from Nautilus Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-17 08:39 -0400
        Re: No more launching files from Nautilus owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-17 15:56 +0000
          Re: No more launching files from Nautilus Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-17 09:12 -0700
          Re: No more launching files from Nautilus Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-17 13:38 -0400
            Re: No more launching files from Nautilus owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-17 18:23 +0000
              Re: No more launching files from Nautilus Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-17 16:41 -0400
                Re: No more launching files from Nautilus owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-17 21:08 +0000

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#451543 — No more launching files from Nautilus

<https://news.softpedia.com/news/gnome-devs-to-remove-the-ability-to-launch-apps-from-the-nautilus-file-manager-521137.shtml> 
OR <https://goo.gl/PDuajk>
-----
GNOME Devs to Remove the Ability to Launch Apps from the Nautilus File 
Manager
-----

If they really do this that seems absurd... but maybe it is just a 
developer being extreme to try to push the importance of security?




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#451545

On 2018-05-16, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
><https://news.softpedia.com/news/gnome-devs-to-remove-the-ability-to-launch-apps-from-the-nautilus-file-manager-521137.shtml> 
> OR <https://goo.gl/PDuajk>
> -----
> GNOME Devs to Remove the Ability to Launch Apps from the Nautilus File 
> Manager
> -----
>
> If they really do this that seems absurd... but maybe it is just a 
> developer being extreme to try to push the importance of security?
>

I think that this is getting ridicilous. After removing ability to
display icons on desktop, this is another one. What this means actually?
I can't open video via nautilus any more?
>
>
>


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#451547

Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> wrote:
> On 2018-05-16, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>><https://news.softpedia.com/news/gnome-devs-to-remove-the-ability-to-launch-apps-from-the-nautilus-file-manager-521137.shtml> 
>> OR <https://goo.gl/PDuajk>
>> -----
>> GNOME Devs to Remove the Ability to Launch Apps from the Nautilus File 
>> Manager
>> -----
>>
>> If they really do this that seems absurd... but maybe it is just a 
>> developer being extreme to try to push the importance of security?
>>
> 
> I think that this is getting ridicilous. After removing ability to
> display icons on desktop, this is another one. What this means actually?
> I can't open video via nautilus any more?
>>
> 

Gnome peaked at version 2.

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#451549

On 2018-05-16, owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
> Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> wrote:
>> On 2018-05-16, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>><https://news.softpedia.com/news/gnome-devs-to-remove-the-ability-to-launch-apps-from-the-nautilus-file-manager-521137.shtml> 
>>> OR <https://goo.gl/PDuajk>
>>> -----
>>> GNOME Devs to Remove the Ability to Launch Apps from the Nautilus File 
>>> Manager
>>> -----
>>>
>>> If they really do this that seems absurd... but maybe it is just a 
>>> developer being extreme to try to push the importance of security?
>>>
>> 
>> I think that this is getting ridicilous. After removing ability to
>> display icons on desktop, this is another one. What this means actually?
>> I can't open video via nautilus any more?
>>>
>> 
>
> Gnome peaked at version 2.
>

I use Gnome 3, with dash2dock and topicons+ it is usable. But they
getting it unusable with each new revision ;(
There is always nemo, but then again if I use nemo, why not cinnamon?


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#451551

Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> wrote:
> On 2018-05-16, owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>> Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> wrote:
>>> On 2018-05-16, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>><https://news.softpedia.com/news/gnome-devs-to-remove-the-ability-to-launch-apps-from-the-nautilus-file-manager-521137.shtml> 
>>>> OR <https://goo.gl/PDuajk>
>>>> -----
>>>> GNOME Devs to Remove the Ability to Launch Apps from the Nautilus File 
>>>> Manager
>>>> -----
>>>>
>>>> If they really do this that seems absurd... but maybe it is just a 
>>>> developer being extreme to try to push the importance of security?
>>>>
>>> 
>>> I think that this is getting ridicilous. After removing ability to
>>> display icons on desktop, this is another one. What this means actually?
>>> I can't open video via nautilus any more?
>>>>
>>> 
>>
>> Gnome peaked at version 2.
>>
> 
> I use Gnome 3, with dash2dock and topicons+ it is usable. But they
> getting it unusable with each new revision ;(
> There is always nemo, but then again if I use nemo, why not cinnamon?
> 

Have you tried mate?
 

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#451552

On 2018-05-17, owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
> Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> wrote:
>> On 2018-05-16, owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>> Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2018-05-16, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>><https://news.softpedia.com/news/gnome-devs-to-remove-the-ability-to-launch-apps-from-the-nautilus-file-manager-521137.shtml> 
>>>>> OR <https://goo.gl/PDuajk>
>>>>> -----
>>>>> GNOME Devs to Remove the Ability to Launch Apps from the Nautilus File 
>>>>> Manager
>>>>> -----
>>>>>
>>>>> If they really do this that seems absurd... but maybe it is just a 
>>>>> developer being extreme to try to push the importance of security?
>>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> I think that this is getting ridicilous. After removing ability to
>>>> display icons on desktop, this is another one. What this means actually?
>>>> I can't open video via nautilus any more?
>>>>>
>>>> 
>>>
>>> Gnome peaked at version 2.
>>>
>> 
>> I use Gnome 3, with dash2dock and topicons+ it is usable. But they
>> getting it unusable with each new revision ;(
>> There is always nemo, but then again if I use nemo, why not cinnamon?
>> 
>
> Have you tried mate?

I use mate on TrueOS. Gnome 3 has classic mode that mimics 2 and mate,
but I really don't like it, as I used Gnome 2 long time.
It's just that I am used to super+search instead of menus. Also with
dash I just click app so I don't have to super+click every time.
Alright, I used to do plain console until 2001, when I saw that GUI is
not bad, that is I can run terminal and keep GUI applications open.
Well, alright, now there is everyhing that can be done from console but
I am not only user of this computer ;)


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#451554

Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> wrote:
> On 2018-05-17, owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>> Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> wrote:
>>> On 2018-05-16, owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>> Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 2018-05-16, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>>><https://news.softpedia.com/news/gnome-devs-to-remove-the-ability-to-launch-apps-from-the-nautilus-file-manager-521137.shtml> 
>>>>>> OR <https://goo.gl/PDuajk>
>>>>>> -----
>>>>>> GNOME Devs to Remove the Ability to Launch Apps from the Nautilus File 
>>>>>> Manager
>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If they really do this that seems absurd... but maybe it is just a 
>>>>>> developer being extreme to try to push the importance of security?
>>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think that this is getting ridicilous. After removing ability to
>>>>> display icons on desktop, this is another one. What this means actually?
>>>>> I can't open video via nautilus any more?
>>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>
>>>> Gnome peaked at version 2.
>>>>
>>> 
>>> I use Gnome 3, with dash2dock and topicons+ it is usable. But they
>>> getting it unusable with each new revision ;(
>>> There is always nemo, but then again if I use nemo, why not cinnamon?
>>> 
>>
>> Have you tried mate?
> 
> I use mate on TrueOS. Gnome 3 has classic mode that mimics 2 and mate,
> but I really don't like it, as I used Gnome 2 long time.
> It's just that I am used to super+search instead of menus.

I rarely use the menus.  I generally get by with custom launchers
and the occasional Alt-F2.  Sometimes I'll browse menus just to
see what all kinds of crap I forgot I had installed once for some
reason.


> Also with
> dash I just click app so I don't have to super+click every time.
> Alright, I used to do plain console until 2001, when I saw that GUI is
> not bad, that is I can run terminal and keep GUI applications open.
> Well, alright, now there is everyhing that can be done from console but
> I am not only user of this computer ;)
> 

Plain console is very refreshing and peaceful.  I drop down to virtual
terminals often and just do most every thing from there.  If I need
a GUI for whatever, it's just an Alt+F7 away.

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#451565

On Thu, 17 May 2018 00:38:50 GMT, Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> wrote:

>On 2018-05-17, owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>> Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> wrote:
>>> On 2018-05-16, owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>> Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 2018-05-16, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>>><https://news.softpedia.com/news/gnome-devs-to-remove-the-ability-to-launch-apps-from-the-nautilus-file-manager-521137.shtml> 
>>>>>> OR <https://goo.gl/PDuajk>
>>>>>> -----
>>>>>> GNOME Devs to Remove the Ability to Launch Apps from the Nautilus File 
>>>>>> Manager
>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If they really do this that seems absurd... but maybe it is just a 
>>>>>> developer being extreme to try to push the importance of security?
>>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think that this is getting ridicilous. After removing ability to
>>>>> display icons on desktop, this is another one. What this means actually?
>>>>> I can't open video via nautilus any more?
>>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>
>>>> Gnome peaked at version 2.
>>>>
>>> 
>>> I use Gnome 3, with dash2dock and topicons+ it is usable. But they
>>> getting it unusable with each new revision ;(
>>> There is always nemo, but then again if I use nemo, why not cinnamon?
>>> 
>>
>> Have you tried mate?
>
>I use mate on TrueOS. Gnome 3 has classic mode that mimics 2 and mate,
>but I really don't like it, as I used Gnome 2 long time.
>It's just that I am used to super+search instead of menus. Also with
>dash I just click app so I don't have to super+click every time.
>Alright, I used to do plain console until 2001, when I saw that GUI is
>not bad, that is I can run terminal and keep GUI applications open.
>Well, alright, now there is everyhing that can be done from console but
>I am not only user of this computer ;)

Are you saying that you'd seriously be able to browse your favourite
web sites from the console? I doubt links is able to do much anymore
considering how complex the sites have become.

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#451574

On 5/17/18 5:45 AM, Doomsdrzej wrote:
> On Thu, 17 May 2018 00:38:50 GMT, Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 2018-05-17, owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>> Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2018-05-16, owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 2018-05-16, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> <https://news.softpedia.com/news/gnome-devs-to-remove-the-ability-to-launch-apps-from-the-nautilus-file-manager-521137.shtml>
>>>>>>> OR <https://goo.gl/PDuajk>
>>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>> GNOME Devs to Remove the Ability to Launch Apps from the Nautilus File
>>>>>>> Manager
>>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If they really do this that seems absurd... but maybe it is just a
>>>>>>> developer being extreme to try to push the importance of security?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think that this is getting ridicilous. After removing ability to
>>>>>> display icons on desktop, this is another one. What this means actually?
>>>>>> I can't open video via nautilus any more?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Gnome peaked at version 2.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I use Gnome 3, with dash2dock and topicons+ it is usable. But they
>>>> getting it unusable with each new revision ;(
>>>> There is always nemo, but then again if I use nemo, why not cinnamon?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Have you tried mate?
>>
>> I use mate on TrueOS. Gnome 3 has classic mode that mimics 2 and mate,
>> but I really don't like it, as I used Gnome 2 long time.
>> It's just that I am used to super+search instead of menus. Also with
>> dash I just click app so I don't have to super+click every time.
>> Alright, I used to do plain console until 2001, when I saw that GUI is
>> not bad, that is I can run terminal and keep GUI applications open.
>> Well, alright, now there is everyhing that can be done from console but
>> I am not only user of this computer ;)
> 
> Are you saying that you'd seriously be able to browse your favourite
> web sites from the console? I doubt links is able to do much anymore
> considering how complex the sites have become.
> 

There is a lot people do with modern computers where the CLI would be a 
silly choice. Owl has shown image editing... but always in the GUI 
(except maybe for things you can do with a batch change, and even then 
to check the results you need more than text).

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#451589

On Thu, 17 May 2018 00:38:50 GMT, LO AND BEHOLD; "Melzzzzz
<Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com>" determined that the following was of great
importance and subsequently decided to freely share it with us in
<ua4LC.390321$LD3.139806@fx18.am4>:
 
>On 2018-05-17, owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> wrote:
>>>On 2018-05-16, owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> wrote:
>>>>>On 2018-05-16, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>>><https://news.softpedia.com/news/gnome-devs-to-remove-the-ability-to-lau
>>>>>>nch-apps-from-the-nautilus-file-manager-521137.shtml> OR
>>>>>><https://goo.gl/PDuajk> ----- GNOME Devs to Remove the Ability to
>>>>>>Launch Apps from the Nautilus File Manager ----- If they really do this
>>>>>>that seems absurd... but maybe it is just a developer being extreme to 
>>>>>>try to push the importance of security? 
>>>>>I think that this is getting ridicilous. After removing ability to
>>>>>display icons on desktop, this is another one. What this means
>>>>>actually? I can't open video via nautilus any more?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>Gnome peaked at version 2. 
>>>I use Gnome 3, with dash2dock and topicons+ it is usable. But they
>>>getting it unusable with each new revision ;( There is always nemo, but
>>>then again if I use nemo, why not cinnamon? 
>>Have you tried mate?
>
>I use mate on TrueOS. Gnome 3 has classic mode that mimics 2 and mate,
>but I really don't like it, as I used Gnome 2 long time. It's just that
>I am used to super+search instead of menus. Also with dash I just click
>app so I don't have to super+click every time. Alright, I used to do
>plain console until 2001, when I saw that GUI is not bad, that is I can
>run terminal and keep GUI applications open. Well, alright, now there
>is everyhing that can be done from console but I am not only user of
>this computer ;)

i recently experimented with a trueOS install and found it to be hacked-together garbage.  did an update with pkg (instead of crappy gui updater) and i think it hosed the zfs boot partition.  i can't be sure because even on the first boot after install there were all kinds of errors on initial boot of the kernel (though it would still boot).

i reinstalled with freebsd 11.1-RELEASE instead of the trueOS crap.  the stupid sysAdm bullshit was the final nail in the trueOS coffin for me.  why does anybody need this shit?  you set up an admin group and add users to it... why the shit should root user (or any other user with "admin" permissions) have to re-authenticate after login to administer the system??

have any of you guys tried using fvwm as a window manager?  ...or do window managers that can fit onto a 3-1/2" floppy disk not have enough bloated crap for you?

similarly, i quickly quit using gnome shit in 1997 and use fvwm on every one of my *nix installs.

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#451607

On Thu, 17 May 2018 11:15:53 -0500, Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy
Whistle Holder Emeritus ?? <root@127.0.0.1> wrote:

>On Thu, 17 May 2018 00:38:50 GMT, LO AND BEHOLD; "Melzzzzz
><Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com>" determined that the following was of great
>importance and subsequently decided to freely share it with us in
><ua4LC.390321$LD3.139806@fx18.am4>:
> 
>>On 2018-05-17, owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> wrote:
>>>>On 2018-05-16, owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> wrote:
>>>>>>On 2018-05-16, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>>>><https://news.softpedia.com/news/gnome-devs-to-remove-the-ability-to-lau
>>>>>>>nch-apps-from-the-nautilus-file-manager-521137.shtml> OR
>>>>>>><https://goo.gl/PDuajk> ----- GNOME Devs to Remove the Ability to
>>>>>>>Launch Apps from the Nautilus File Manager ----- If they really do this
>>>>>>>that seems absurd... but maybe it is just a developer being extreme to 
>>>>>>>try to push the importance of security? 
>>>>>>I think that this is getting ridicilous. After removing ability to
>>>>>>display icons on desktop, this is another one. What this means
>>>>>>actually? I can't open video via nautilus any more?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>Gnome peaked at version 2. 
>>>>I use Gnome 3, with dash2dock and topicons+ it is usable. But they
>>>>getting it unusable with each new revision ;( There is always nemo, but
>>>>then again if I use nemo, why not cinnamon? 
>>>Have you tried mate?
>>
>>I use mate on TrueOS. Gnome 3 has classic mode that mimics 2 and mate,
>>but I really don't like it, as I used Gnome 2 long time. It's just that
>>I am used to super+search instead of menus. Also with dash I just click
>>app so I don't have to super+click every time. Alright, I used to do
>>plain console until 2001, when I saw that GUI is not bad, that is I can
>>run terminal and keep GUI applications open. Well, alright, now there
>>is everyhing that can be done from console but I am not only user of
>>this computer ;)
>
>i recently experimented with a trueOS install and found it to be hacked-together garbage.  did an update with pkg (instead of crappy gui updater) and i think it hosed the zfs boot partition.  i can't be sure because even on the first boot after install there were all kinds of errors on initial boot of the kernel (though it would still boot).
>
>i reinstalled with freebsd 11.1-RELEASE instead of the trueOS crap.  the stupid sysAdm bullshit was the final nail in the trueOS coffin for me.  why does anybody need this shit?  you set up an admin group and add users to it... why the shit should root user (or any other user with "admin" permissions) have to re-authenticate after login to administer the system??
>
>have any of you guys tried using fvwm as a window manager?  ...or do window managers that can fit onto a 3-1/2" floppy disk not have enough bloated crap for you?
>
>similarly, i quickly quit using gnome shit in 1997 and use fvwm on every one of my *nix installs.

I've never used fvwm but it looks like a highly customizable window
manager from the few screenshots I've viewed.

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#452089

On 2018-05-17, Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> wrote:
> On 2018-05-17, owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>> Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> wrote:
>>> On 2018-05-16, owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>> Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 2018-05-16, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>>><https://news.softpedia.com/news/gnome-devs-to-remove-the-ability-to-launch-apps-from-the-nautilus-file-manager-521137.shtml> 
>>>>>> OR <https://goo.gl/PDuajk>
>>>>>> -----
>>>>>> GNOME Devs to Remove the Ability to Launch Apps from the Nautilus File 
>>>>>> Manager
>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If they really do this that seems absurd... but maybe it is just a 
>>>>>> developer being extreme to try to push the importance of security?
>>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think that this is getting ridicilous. After removing ability to
>>>>> display icons on desktop, this is another one. What this means actually?
>>>>> I can't open video via nautilus any more?
>>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>
>>>> Gnome peaked at version 2.
>>>>
>>> 
>>> I use Gnome 3, with dash2dock and topicons+ it is usable. But they
>>> getting it unusable with each new revision ;(
>>> There is always nemo, but then again if I use nemo, why not cinnamon?
>>> 
>>
>> Have you tried mate?
>
> I use mate on TrueOS. Gnome 3 has classic mode that mimics 2 and mate,
> but I really don't like it, as I used Gnome 2 long time.
> It's just that I am used to super+search instead of menus. Also with
> dash I just click app so I don't have to super+click every time.
> Alright, I used to do plain console until 2001, when I saw that GUI is
> not bad, that is I can run terminal and keep GUI applications open.
> Well, alright, now there is everyhing that can be done from console but
> I am not only user of this computer ;)

I use the Terminal all the time. I like Guake. F12 it's there. F12 again and 
it's "rolled up" and out of the way until I toggle F12 again. And it gives 
me as many Tabs (terminals) as I want.

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#452096

On 5/23/18 1:35 PM, RonB wrote:
> On 2018-05-17, Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> wrote:
>> On 2018-05-17, owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>> Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2018-05-16, owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 2018-05-16, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> <https://news.softpedia.com/news/gnome-devs-to-remove-the-ability-to-launch-apps-from-the-nautilus-file-manager-521137.shtml>
>>>>>>> OR <https://goo.gl/PDuajk>
>>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>> GNOME Devs to Remove the Ability to Launch Apps from the Nautilus File
>>>>>>> Manager
>>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If they really do this that seems absurd... but maybe it is just a
>>>>>>> developer being extreme to try to push the importance of security?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think that this is getting ridicilous. After removing ability to
>>>>>> display icons on desktop, this is another one. What this means actually?
>>>>>> I can't open video via nautilus any more?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Gnome peaked at version 2.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I use Gnome 3, with dash2dock and topicons+ it is usable. But they
>>>> getting it unusable with each new revision ;(
>>>> There is always nemo, but then again if I use nemo, why not cinnamon?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Have you tried mate?
>>
>> I use mate on TrueOS. Gnome 3 has classic mode that mimics 2 and mate,
>> but I really don't like it, as I used Gnome 2 long time.
>> It's just that I am used to super+search instead of menus. Also with
>> dash I just click app so I don't have to super+click every time.
>> Alright, I used to do plain console until 2001, when I saw that GUI is
>> not bad, that is I can run terminal and keep GUI applications open.
>> Well, alright, now there is everyhing that can be done from console but
>> I am not only user of this computer ;)
> 
> I use the Terminal all the time. I like Guake. F12 it's there. F12 again and
> it's "rolled up" and out of the way until I toggle F12 again. And it gives
> me as many Tabs (terminals) as I want.
> 
I do like the "window shade" or "roll up" feature that some Linux 
systems offer... and tabs in most programs is far more of an advantage 
than I would have expected before I started to use it.

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#451558

On 5/16/18 5:16 PM, owl wrote:
> Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> wrote:
>> On 2018-05-16, owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>> Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2018-05-16, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>> <https://news.softpedia.com/news/gnome-devs-to-remove-the-ability-to-launch-apps-from-the-nautilus-file-manager-521137.shtml>
>>>>> OR <https://goo.gl/PDuajk>
>>>>> -----
>>>>> GNOME Devs to Remove the Ability to Launch Apps from the Nautilus File
>>>>> Manager
>>>>> -----
>>>>>
>>>>> If they really do this that seems absurd... but maybe it is just a
>>>>> developer being extreme to try to push the importance of security?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think that this is getting ridicilous. After removing ability to
>>>> display icons on desktop, this is another one. What this means actually?
>>>> I can't open video via nautilus any more?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Gnome peaked at version 2.
>>>
>>
>> I use Gnome 3, with dash2dock and topicons+ it is usable. But they
>> getting it unusable with each new revision ;(
>> There is always nemo, but then again if I use nemo, why not cinnamon?
>>
> 
> Have you tried mate?
>   
> 
MATE is my preferred DE... at least for now. It is not fancy in any way, 
but what it has works and is clearly designed well. That is more than I 
can say for KDE. :)

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cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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#451559

On 2018-05-17, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 5/16/18 5:16 PM, owl wrote:
>> Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> wrote:
>>> On 2018-05-16, owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>> Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 2018-05-16, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>>> <https://news.softpedia.com/news/gnome-devs-to-remove-the-ability-to-launch-apps-from-the-nautilus-file-manager-521137.shtml>
>>>>>> OR <https://goo.gl/PDuajk>
>>>>>> -----
>>>>>> GNOME Devs to Remove the Ability to Launch Apps from the Nautilus File
>>>>>> Manager
>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If they really do this that seems absurd... but maybe it is just a
>>>>>> developer being extreme to try to push the importance of security?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I think that this is getting ridicilous. After removing ability to
>>>>> display icons on desktop, this is another one. What this means actually?
>>>>> I can't open video via nautilus any more?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Gnome peaked at version 2.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I use Gnome 3, with dash2dock and topicons+ it is usable. But they
>>> getting it unusable with each new revision ;(
>>> There is always nemo, but then again if I use nemo, why not cinnamon?
>>>
>> 
>> Have you tried mate?
>>   
>> 
> MATE is my preferred DE... at least for now. It is not fancy in any way, 
> but what it has works and is clearly designed well. That is more than I 
> can say for KDE. :)

No, your prefered desktop is whatever Apple throws at you ;)
>


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#451560

On 5/16/18 8:02 PM, Melzzzzz wrote:
> On 2018-05-17, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>> On 5/16/18 5:16 PM, owl wrote:
>>> Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2018-05-16, owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 2018-05-16, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> <https://news.softpedia.com/news/gnome-devs-to-remove-the-ability-to-launch-apps-from-the-nautilus-file-manager-521137.shtml>
>>>>>>> OR <https://goo.gl/PDuajk>
>>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>> GNOME Devs to Remove the Ability to Launch Apps from the Nautilus File
>>>>>>> Manager
>>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If they really do this that seems absurd... but maybe it is just a
>>>>>>> developer being extreme to try to push the importance of security?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think that this is getting ridicilous. After removing ability to
>>>>>> display icons on desktop, this is another one. What this means actually?
>>>>>> I can't open video via nautilus any more?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Gnome peaked at version 2.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I use Gnome 3, with dash2dock and topicons+ it is usable. But they
>>>> getting it unusable with each new revision ;(
>>>> There is always nemo, but then again if I use nemo, why not cinnamon?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Have you tried mate?
>>>    
>>>
>> MATE is my preferred DE... at least for now. It is not fancy in any way,
>> but what it has works and is clearly designed well. That is more than I
>> can say for KDE. :)
> 
> No, your prefered desktop is whatever Apple throws at you ;)

Well, fair enough... but I prefer it for what I can do with it. If a 
better choice came along tomorrow I would jump ship. Well, would likely 
take more than a day but you get the idea.

I, of course, meant my preferred Linux DE. :)


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#451566

On Thu, 17 May 2018 03:02:21 GMT, Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> wrote:

>On 2018-05-17, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>> On 5/16/18 5:16 PM, owl wrote:
>>> Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2018-05-16, owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 2018-05-16, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> <https://news.softpedia.com/news/gnome-devs-to-remove-the-ability-to-launch-apps-from-the-nautilus-file-manager-521137.shtml>
>>>>>>> OR <https://goo.gl/PDuajk>
>>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>> GNOME Devs to Remove the Ability to Launch Apps from the Nautilus File
>>>>>>> Manager
>>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If they really do this that seems absurd... but maybe it is just a
>>>>>>> developer being extreme to try to push the importance of security?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think that this is getting ridicilous. After removing ability to
>>>>>> display icons on desktop, this is another one. What this means actually?
>>>>>> I can't open video via nautilus any more?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Gnome peaked at version 2.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I use Gnome 3, with dash2dock and topicons+ it is usable. But they
>>>> getting it unusable with each new revision ;(
>>>> There is always nemo, but then again if I use nemo, why not cinnamon?
>>>>
>>> 
>>> Have you tried mate?
>>>   
>>> 
>> MATE is my preferred DE... at least for now. It is not fancy in any way, 
>> but what it has works and is clearly designed well. That is more than I 
>> can say for KDE. :)
>
>No, your prefered desktop is whatever Apple throws at you ;)

If Apple transformed the cursor into something that looked like a
flaccid penis and double-clicking icons in Mac OS resulted in the
sound of a man having an orgasm (regardless of whether you mute the
sounds or not because Apple knows better than you do), Michael
Glasser, diseased vermin of Prescott, Arizona would still promote it
as feature which improve productivity and error-reduction. 

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#451575

On 5/17/18 5:55 AM, Doomsdrzej wrote:
> On Thu, 17 May 2018 03:02:21 GMT, Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 2018-05-17, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>> On 5/16/18 5:16 PM, owl wrote:
>>>> Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 2018-05-16, owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>> Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2018-05-16, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> <https://news.softpedia.com/news/gnome-devs-to-remove-the-ability-to-launch-apps-from-the-nautilus-file-manager-521137.shtml>
>>>>>>>> OR <https://goo.gl/PDuajk>
>>>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>>> GNOME Devs to Remove the Ability to Launch Apps from the Nautilus File
>>>>>>>> Manager
>>>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If they really do this that seems absurd... but maybe it is just a
>>>>>>>> developer being extreme to try to push the importance of security?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think that this is getting ridicilous. After removing ability to
>>>>>>> display icons on desktop, this is another one. What this means actually?
>>>>>>> I can't open video via nautilus any more?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gnome peaked at version 2.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I use Gnome 3, with dash2dock and topicons+ it is usable. But they
>>>>> getting it unusable with each new revision ;(
>>>>> There is always nemo, but then again if I use nemo, why not cinnamon?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Have you tried mate?
>>>>    
>>>>
>>> MATE is my preferred DE... at least for now. It is not fancy in any way,
>>> but what it has works and is clearly designed well. That is more than I
>>> can say for KDE. :)
>>
>> No, your prefered desktop is whatever Apple throws at you ;)
> 
> If Apple transformed the cursor into something that looked like a
> flaccid penis and double-clicking icons in Mac OS resulted in the
> sound of a man having an orgasm (regardless of whether you mute the
> sounds or not because Apple knows better than you do), Michael
> Glasser, diseased vermin of Prescott, Arizona would still promote it
> as feature which improve productivity and error-reduction.
> 
Weak humor... and of course I note when I disagree with things on macOS.

Oh well... you are merely showing your insecurity. Again.

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#451677

On Wednesday, May 16, 2018 at 4:14:23 PM UTC-7, owl wrote:
> Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> wrote:
> > On 2018-05-16, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> >><https://news.softpedia.com/news/gnome-devs-to-remove-the-ability-to-launch-apps-from-the-nautilus-file-manager-521137.shtml> 
> >> OR <https://goo.gl/PDuajk>
> >> -----
> >> GNOME Devs to Remove the Ability to Launch Apps from the Nautilus File 
> >> Manager
> >> -----
> >>
> >> If they really do this that seems absurd... but maybe it is just a 
> >> developer being extreme to try to push the importance of security?
> >>
> > 
> > I think that this is getting ridicilous. After removing ability to
> > display icons on desktop, this is another one. What this means actually?
> > I can't open video via nautilus any more?
> >>
> > 
> 
> Gnome peaked at version 2.



Too much glue for you, Melzzzzz. 

Where did you learn to program? 

It was Melzzzzz who flooded benj's site millions of times and denied it. It was Melzzzzz who forged me and then tried to deny it. If benj has 'b.txt' open in a program such as MS Word and you want to change its name to 'mack.pdf' via a hot key, that might be wise. 

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#451556

On 5/16/18 4:06 PM, Melzzzzz wrote:
> On 2018-05-16, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>> <https://news.softpedia.com/news/gnome-devs-to-remove-the-ability-to-launch-apps-from-the-nautilus-file-manager-521137.shtml>
>> OR <https://goo.gl/PDuajk>
>> -----
>> GNOME Devs to Remove the Ability to Launch Apps from the Nautilus File
>> Manager
>> -----
>>
>> If they really do this that seems absurd... but maybe it is just a
>> developer being extreme to try to push the importance of security?
>>
> 
> I think that this is getting ridicilous. After removing ability to
> display icons on desktop, this is another one. What this means actually?
> I can't open video via nautilus any more?

Right now the idea is just that, an idea.



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