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Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN

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  Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-11-20 10:27 -0500
    Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-20 15:36 +0000
      Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-11-20 21:05 -0500
        Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-21 03:42 +0000
          Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-20 20:05 -0800
          Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN fr314159@gmail.com - 2018-11-21 06:03 -0800
          Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-11-21 09:30 -0500
            Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-21 14:47 +0000
              Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 07:27 -0800
                Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 07:49 -0800
                Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-11-21 11:52 -0500
                  Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-21 17:07 +0000
                    Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 09:22 -0800
                      Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-21 17:44 +0000
                        Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 09:58 -0800
                          Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 12:00 -0800
                        Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-11-22 11:04 -0500
                      Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 09:56 -0800
                Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-21 17:29 -0700
                  Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Hadron Quark <hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2018-11-22 11:41 +0100
                    Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-22 03:17 -0800
                    Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-22 12:49 -0500
                      Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-22 10:57 -0700
                      Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-22 11:08 -0800
                      Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-22 13:29 -0800
                    Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-11-22 17:47 -0500
                      Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-22 15:34 -0800
                        Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-23 05:23 -0800
            Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-21 07:18 -0800
          Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-11-22 03:43 +0000
            Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-21 21:02 -0700
            Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-11-22 17:44 -0500
          Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-11-22 10:41 -0500
            Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-22 08:00 -0800
            Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-22 16:13 +0000
              Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-11-22 17:53 -0500
                Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-23 00:20 +0000
                  Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-22 16:36 -0800
                  Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-11-25 18:26 -0500
                    Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-26 07:22 -0600
                      Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-26 05:53 -0800
                    Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-26 16:23 +0000
                      Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-26 10:55 -0600
                        Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-26 17:06 +0000
                          Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-26 12:06 -0600
                            Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-26 10:17 -0800
                            Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-26 18:24 +0000
                              Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-26 10:33 -0800
                              Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-26 10:49 -0800
                              Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-26 18:55 -0800
        Re: Year after year after year, Windows is the default OS at CERN Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-20 20:53 -0800

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#478614

FromSteve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2018-11-22 03:17 -0800
Message-ID<8b7cd409-2198-4e07-a682-5dd7cc1517c0@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#478611
On Thursday, November 22, 2018 at 3:41:36 AM UTC-7, Hadron Quark wrote:
> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> writes:
> 
> > On 11/21/18 8:27 AM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> >> On Wednesday, November 21, 2018 at 7:47:34 AM UTC-7, owl wrote:
> >>> DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
> >>>> On 11/20/2018 10:42 PM, owl wrote:
> >>>>> DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> On 11/20/2018 10:36 AM, owl wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I didn't realize CERN had so many secretaries.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I bet the last button clicked to start a collider experiment is on a
> >>>>>> Windows screen.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Google has a street view inside of CERN control room.  You can walk
> >>>>> around and see about 80 computer screens.  I see two or three obvious
> >>>>> windows machines (at login prompt).  Where you see other desktops,
> >>>>> *maybe* one was windows.  Others look like Linux/Unix of some sort,
> >>>>> but it's hard to tell.  It's pretty clear that most of the ones in the
> >>>>> screenshot below of CERN control room (upper image) are running CERN's
> >>>>> Linux (compared to two known CERN Scientific Linux screens):
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://imgur.com/a/FtmEUvf
> >>>>
> >>>> =======================================================================
> >>>>
> >>>> Way back when:
> >>>>
> >>>> "CERN has a large Windows 95/NT infrastructure with
> >>>> more than 3500 PCs connected that is used as one of
> >>>> the main information services for the laboratory. This
> >>>> infrastructure is used for a wide set of services,
> >>>> including Office Automation, Computing Aided
> >>>> Engineering, Calculations, Software Development,
> >>>> and ... controls."
> >>>>
> >>>> (note the Access db diagram on pg 5.  I wept with pride...)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> http://conference.kek.jp/PCaPAC99/cdrom/paper/tu/tu5.pdf
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> =======================================================================
> >>>> 2003:
> >>>>
> >>>> SOFTWARE DEPLOYMENT AND CONFIGURATION OF THE CERN ACCELERATOR CONTROL
> >>>> ROOMS CONSOLES
> >>>> M. Albert, G. Crockford, E. Hatziangeli , S. Lopienski CERN, Geneva,
> >>>> Switzerland
> >>>>
> >>>> https://accelconf.web.cern.ch/accelconf/ica03/PAPERS/WP533.PDF
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> "These PCs are running Windows 2000 Professional using the NICE
> >>>> computing environment [1] (CERN Windows 2000 client-server architecture).
> >>>>
> >>>> ...
> >>>>
> >>>> Moving away from UNIX X-terminals to Windows based PC consoles required
> >>>> serious changes in the present strategy for software deployment."
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> I'm suprprised the world survived that era.
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> =======================================================================
> >>>>
> >>>> 2008
> >>>>
> >>>> "Sliding glass doors part quietly into a large, modern room with
> >>>> [Microsoft W]indows that stretch all the way up to the high ceiling."
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Not.
> >>>
> >>>> https://spectrum.ieee.org/computing/embedded-systems/powering-the-large-hadron-collider
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> =======================================================================
> >>>>
> >>>> 2009
> >>>>
> >>>> "What operating system do you all use?
> >>>>
> >>>> "A lot of it is Linux-based for the actual control-room infrastructure
> >>>> stuff. There's a lot of coding that's easier to do in Linux, there's a
> >>>> lot of Java applications for the visuals. Operating system-wise, there
> >>>> are a lot of people preferring to use Macs rather than Windows."
> >>>>
> >>>> https://www.cnet.com/news/interview-inside-cern-with-an-lhc-scientist/
> >>>>
> >>>> =======================================================================
> >>>>
> >>>> 2012
> >>>>
> >>>> The Atlas control room.  All 8 of the big screens are running Linux
> >>>> (zoom in on the window controls).
> >>>>
> >>>> https://www.google.ch/maps/@46.2353941,6.0557112,2a,90y,273.33h,88.03t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s4v_cqxink5ynRNL3dHje_A!2e0!3e5!7i13312!8i6656
> >>>>
> >>>> =======================================================================
> >>>>
> >>>> 2012:
> >>>>
> >>>> The main CERN control center.  All Windows - except where it's not.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> With "where it's not" being practically everywhere.
> >>>
> >>>> https://www.google.ch/maps/@46.2546333,6.0569245,2a,75y,322.71h,83.1t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sIoZWzIfJXwJ-6R8gXKEsrA!2e0!3e5!7i13312!8i6656
> >>>>
> >>>> =======================================================================
> >>>
> >>> That's the same street view I took the screenshot from.
> >>>
> >>> https://www.google.ch/maps/@46.254712,6.0567695,2a,54.7y,261.5h,75.88t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sHHl0fHKIFBxGx-aBuZwMVg!2e0!3e5!7i13312!8i6656
> >>>
> >>> Like I said, you can find a couple doze terminals here and there.
> >>> The vast majority are Linux.
> >>
> >>
> >> And none of them were used like that one Winders laptop is,
> >> propping up a short table leg.
> >>
> >
> > What laptop can run only Windows?
> 
> The Q is which can run Linux 100%? A few. Thinkpads excellently. But forget
> it with onboard Nvidia etc unless you're au fait with recovery. Intel HD
> works a charm with Linux.
> 
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#478668

FromSilverSlimer <silver@slim.er>
Date2018-11-22 12:49 -0500
Message-ID<v_BJD.510350$HK2.413762@fx08.iad>
In reply to#478611
On 2018-11-22 5:41 a.m., Hadron Quark wrote:
> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> writes:
> 
>> On 11/21/18 8:27 AM, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, November 21, 2018 at 7:47:34 AM UTC-7, owl wrote:
>>>> DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 11/20/2018 10:42 PM, owl wrote:
>>>>>> DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 11/20/2018 10:36 AM, owl wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I didn't realize CERN had so many secretaries.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I bet the last button clicked to start a collider experiment is on a
>>>>>>> Windows screen.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Google has a street view inside of CERN control room.  You can walk
>>>>>> around and see about 80 computer screens.  I see two or three obvious
>>>>>> windows machines (at login prompt).  Where you see other desktops,
>>>>>> *maybe* one was windows.  Others look like Linux/Unix of some sort,
>>>>>> but it's hard to tell.  It's pretty clear that most of the ones in the
>>>>>> screenshot below of CERN control room (upper image) are running CERN's
>>>>>> Linux (compared to two known CERN Scientific Linux screens):
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://imgur.com/a/FtmEUvf
>>>>>
>>>>> =======================================================================
>>>>>
>>>>> Way back when:
>>>>>
>>>>> "CERN has a large Windows 95/NT infrastructure with
>>>>> more than 3500 PCs connected that is used as one of
>>>>> the main information services for the laboratory. This
>>>>> infrastructure is used for a wide set of services,
>>>>> including Office Automation, Computing Aided
>>>>> Engineering, Calculations, Software Development,
>>>>> and ... controls."
>>>>>
>>>>> (note the Access db diagram on pg 5.  I wept with pride...)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://conference.kek.jp/PCaPAC99/cdrom/paper/tu/tu5.pdf
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> =======================================================================
>>>>> 2003:
>>>>>
>>>>> SOFTWARE DEPLOYMENT AND CONFIGURATION OF THE CERN ACCELERATOR CONTROL
>>>>> ROOMS CONSOLES
>>>>> M. Albert, G. Crockford, E. Hatziangeli , S. Lopienski CERN, Geneva,
>>>>> Switzerland
>>>>>
>>>>> https://accelconf.web.cern.ch/accelconf/ica03/PAPERS/WP533.PDF
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "These PCs are running Windows 2000 Professional using the NICE
>>>>> computing environment [1] (CERN Windows 2000 client-server architecture).
>>>>>
>>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>> Moving away from UNIX X-terminals to Windows based PC consoles required
>>>>> serious changes in the present strategy for software deployment."
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm suprprised the world survived that era.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> =======================================================================
>>>>>
>>>>> 2008
>>>>>
>>>>> "Sliding glass doors part quietly into a large, modern room with
>>>>> [Microsoft W]indows that stretch all the way up to the high ceiling."
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Not.
>>>>
>>>>> https://spectrum.ieee.org/computing/embedded-systems/powering-the-large-hadron-collider
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> =======================================================================
>>>>>
>>>>> 2009
>>>>>
>>>>> "What operating system do you all use?
>>>>>
>>>>> "A lot of it is Linux-based for the actual control-room infrastructure
>>>>> stuff. There's a lot of coding that's easier to do in Linux, there's a
>>>>> lot of Java applications for the visuals. Operating system-wise, there
>>>>> are a lot of people preferring to use Macs rather than Windows."
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.cnet.com/news/interview-inside-cern-with-an-lhc-scientist/
>>>>>
>>>>> =======================================================================
>>>>>
>>>>> 2012
>>>>>
>>>>> The Atlas control room.  All 8 of the big screens are running Linux
>>>>> (zoom in on the window controls).
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.google.ch/maps/@46.2353941,6.0557112,2a,90y,273.33h,88.03t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s4v_cqxink5ynRNL3dHje_A!2e0!3e5!7i13312!8i6656
>>>>>
>>>>> =======================================================================
>>>>>
>>>>> 2012:
>>>>>
>>>>> The main CERN control center.  All Windows - except where it's not.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> With "where it's not" being practically everywhere.
>>>>
>>>>> https://www.google.ch/maps/@46.2546333,6.0569245,2a,75y,322.71h,83.1t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sIoZWzIfJXwJ-6R8gXKEsrA!2e0!3e5!7i13312!8i6656
>>>>>
>>>>> =======================================================================
>>>>
>>>> That's the same street view I took the screenshot from.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.google.ch/maps/@46.254712,6.0567695,2a,54.7y,261.5h,75.88t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sHHl0fHKIFBxGx-aBuZwMVg!2e0!3e5!7i13312!8i6656
>>>>
>>>> Like I said, you can find a couple doze terminals here and there.
>>>> The vast majority are Linux.
>>>
>>>
>>> And none of them were used like that one Winders laptop is,
>>> propping up a short table leg.
>>>
>>
>> What laptop can run only Windows?
> 
> The Q is which can run Linux 100%? A few. Thinkpads excellently. But forget
> it with onboard Nvidia etc unless you're au fait with recovery. Intel HD
> works a charm with Linux.

I'd say that a computer with Intel hardware probably runs better on 
Linux than it does in Windows. However, a computer with Intel hardware 
across the board is crippled by the fact that it can't do intensive 
graphics work or play games. If that's not a problem and productivity is 
the only thing being done, Linux is pretty great.


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#478671

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-11-22 10:57 -0700
Message-ID<g5o901Fnc6cU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#478668
On 11/22/18 10:49 AM, SilverSlimer wrote:
...
>>> What laptop can run only Windows?
>>
>> The Q is which can run Linux 100%? A few. Thinkpads excellently. But 
>> forget
>> it with onboard Nvidia etc unless you're au fait with recovery. Intel HD
>> works a charm with Linux.
> 
> I'd say that a computer with Intel hardware probably runs better on 
> Linux than it does in Windows. However, a computer with Intel hardware 
> across the board is crippled by the fact that it can't do intensive 
> graphics work or play games. If that's not a problem and productivity is 
> the only thing being done, Linux is pretty great.
> 
> 

Why not show some examples? Would love to see it!

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#478689

FromSteve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2018-11-22 11:08 -0800
Message-ID<0ac6ccdd-db95-4f46-832d-14d6f7768699@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#478668
On Thursday, November 22, 2018 at 10:49:17 AM UTC-7, SilverSlimer wrote:
> On 2018-11-22 5:41 a.m., Hadron Quark wrote:
> > Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> writes:
> > 
> >> On 11/21/18 8:27 AM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> >>> On Wednesday, November 21, 2018 at 7:47:34 AM UTC-7, owl wrote:
> >>>> DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
> >>>>> On 11/20/2018 10:42 PM, owl wrote:
> >>>>>> DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>> On 11/20/2018 10:36 AM, owl wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I didn't realize CERN had so many secretaries.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I bet the last button clicked to start a collider experiment is on a
> >>>>>>> Windows screen.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Google has a street view inside of CERN control room.  You can walk
> >>>>>> around and see about 80 computer screens.  I see two or three obvious
> >>>>>> windows machines (at login prompt).  Where you see other desktops,
> >>>>>> *maybe* one was windows.  Others look like Linux/Unix of some sort,
> >>>>>> but it's hard to tell.  It's pretty clear that most of the ones in the
> >>>>>> screenshot below of CERN control room (upper image) are running CERN's
> >>>>>> Linux (compared to two known CERN Scientific Linux screens):
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> https://imgur.com/a/FtmEUvf
> >>>>>
> >>>>> =======================================================================
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Way back when:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "CERN has a large Windows 95/NT infrastructure with
> >>>>> more than 3500 PCs connected that is used as one of
> >>>>> the main information services for the laboratory. This
> >>>>> infrastructure is used for a wide set of services,
> >>>>> including Office Automation, Computing Aided
> >>>>> Engineering, Calculations, Software Development,
> >>>>> and ... controls."
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (note the Access db diagram on pg 5.  I wept with pride...)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://conference.kek.jp/PCaPAC99/cdrom/paper/tu/tu5.pdf
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> =======================================================================
> >>>>> 2003:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> SOFTWARE DEPLOYMENT AND CONFIGURATION OF THE CERN ACCELERATOR CONTROL
> >>>>> ROOMS CONSOLES
> >>>>> M. Albert, G. Crockford, E. Hatziangeli , S. Lopienski CERN, Geneva,
> >>>>> Switzerland
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://accelconf.web.cern.ch/accelconf/ica03/PAPERS/WP533.PDF
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "These PCs are running Windows 2000 Professional using the NICE
> >>>>> computing environment [1] (CERN Windows 2000 client-server architecture).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Moving away from UNIX X-terminals to Windows based PC consoles required
> >>>>> serious changes in the present strategy for software deployment."
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm suprprised the world survived that era.
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> =======================================================================
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2008
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "Sliding glass doors part quietly into a large, modern room with
> >>>>> [Microsoft W]indows that stretch all the way up to the high ceiling."
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Not.
> >>>>
> >>>>> https://spectrum.ieee.org/computing/embedded-systems/powering-the-large-hadron-collider
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> =======================================================================
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2009
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "What operating system do you all use?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "A lot of it is Linux-based for the actual control-room infrastructure
> >>>>> stuff. There's a lot of coding that's easier to do in Linux, there's a
> >>>>> lot of Java applications for the visuals. Operating system-wise, there
> >>>>> are a lot of people preferring to use Macs rather than Windows."
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://www.cnet.com/news/interview-inside-cern-with-an-lhc-scientist/
> >>>>>
> >>>>> =======================================================================
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2012
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The Atlas control room.  All 8 of the big screens are running Linux
> >>>>> (zoom in on the window controls).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://www.google.ch/maps/@46.2353941,6.0557112,2a,90y,273.33h,88.03t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s4v_cqxink5ynRNL3dHje_A!2e0!3e5!7i13312!8i6656
> >>>>>
> >>>>> =======================================================================
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2012:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The main CERN control center.  All Windows - except where it's not.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> With "where it's not" being practically everywhere.
> >>>>
> >>>>> https://www.google.ch/maps/@46.2546333,6.0569245,2a,75y,322.71h,83.1t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sIoZWzIfJXwJ-6R8gXKEsrA!2e0!3e5!7i13312!8i6656
> >>>>>
> >>>>> =======================================================================
> >>>>
> >>>> That's the same street view I took the screenshot from.
> >>>>
> >>>> https://www.google.ch/maps/@46.254712,6.0567695,2a,54.7y,261.5h,75.88t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sHHl0fHKIFBxGx-aBuZwMVg!2e0!3e5!7i13312!8i6656
> >>>>
> >>>> Like I said, you can find a couple doze terminals here and there.
> >>>> The vast majority are Linux.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> And none of them were used like that one Winders laptop is,
> >>> propping up a short table leg.
> >>>
> >>
> >> What laptop can run only Windows?
> > 
> > The Q is which can run Linux 100%? A few. Thinkpads excellently. But forget
> > it with onboard Nvidia etc unless you're au fait with recovery. Intel HD
> > works a charm with Linux.
> 
> I'd say that a computer with Intel hardware probably runs better on 
> Linux than it does in Windows. However, a computer with Intel hardware 
> across the board is crippled by the fact that it can't do intensive 
> graphics work or play games. If that's not a problem and productivity is 
> the only thing being done, Linux is pretty great.
> 
> 
> -- 
> SilverSlimer
> Minds: @silverslimer



It was Larry 'The Fool' Washington who stated that he and his work friends used to troll grade school kids all the time and it was an amusement of his. Perhaps you use it wrong. Do you not fathom the use of private networks? Most people in this group do customizations either as a hobby or as a profession, so I have doubts anybody here consider automation to be "sorcery". 

Sandman duped Larry 'The Fool' Washington a bit, big f*cking deal. Why be a wailing ass about it? I quoted specific examples of Larry 'The Fool' Washington focusing on ego and not tech -- blaming me for the actions of others, etc. His response: to beg your herd to come rescue you. You've proven that it is Larry 'The Fool' Washington. 

He is as incompetent as Larry 'The Fool' Washington. All joking aside, what lie? 

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#478707

FromSteve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2018-11-22 13:29 -0800
Message-ID<6d4d7a11-9744-4b4a-853a-74ba46521891@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#478668
On Thursday, November 22, 2018 at 10:49:17 AM UTC-7, SilverSlimer wrote:
> On 2018-11-22 5:41 a.m., Hadron Quark wrote:
> > Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> writes:
> > 
> >> On 11/21/18 8:27 AM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> >>> On Wednesday, November 21, 2018 at 7:47:34 AM UTC-7, owl wrote:
> >>>> DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
> >>>>> On 11/20/2018 10:42 PM, owl wrote:
> >>>>>> DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>> On 11/20/2018 10:36 AM, owl wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I didn't realize CERN had so many secretaries.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I bet the last button clicked to start a collider experiment is on a
> >>>>>>> Windows screen.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Google has a street view inside of CERN control room.  You can walk
> >>>>>> around and see about 80 computer screens.  I see two or three obvious
> >>>>>> windows machines (at login prompt).  Where you see other desktops,
> >>>>>> *maybe* one was windows.  Others look like Linux/Unix of some sort,
> >>>>>> but it's hard to tell.  It's pretty clear that most of the ones in the
> >>>>>> screenshot below of CERN control room (upper image) are running CERN's
> >>>>>> Linux (compared to two known CERN Scientific Linux screens):
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> https://imgur.com/a/FtmEUvf
> >>>>>
> >>>>> =======================================================================
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Way back when:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "CERN has a large Windows 95/NT infrastructure with
> >>>>> more than 3500 PCs connected that is used as one of
> >>>>> the main information services for the laboratory. This
> >>>>> infrastructure is used for a wide set of services,
> >>>>> including Office Automation, Computing Aided
> >>>>> Engineering, Calculations, Software Development,
> >>>>> and ... controls."
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (note the Access db diagram on pg 5.  I wept with pride...)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://conference.kek.jp/PCaPAC99/cdrom/paper/tu/tu5.pdf
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> =======================================================================
> >>>>> 2003:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> SOFTWARE DEPLOYMENT AND CONFIGURATION OF THE CERN ACCELERATOR CONTROL
> >>>>> ROOMS CONSOLES
> >>>>> M. Albert, G. Crockford, E. Hatziangeli , S. Lopienski CERN, Geneva,
> >>>>> Switzerland
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://accelconf.web.cern.ch/accelconf/ica03/PAPERS/WP533.PDF
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "These PCs are running Windows 2000 Professional using the NICE
> >>>>> computing environment [1] (CERN Windows 2000 client-server architecture).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Moving away from UNIX X-terminals to Windows based PC consoles required
> >>>>> serious changes in the present strategy for software deployment."
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm suprprised the world survived that era.
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> =======================================================================
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2008
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "Sliding glass doors part quietly into a large, modern room with
> >>>>> [Microsoft W]indows that stretch all the way up to the high ceiling."
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Not.
> >>>>
> >>>>> https://spectrum.ieee.org/computing/embedded-systems/powering-the-large-hadron-collider
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> =======================================================================
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2009
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "What operating system do you all use?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "A lot of it is Linux-based for the actual control-room infrastructure
> >>>>> stuff. There's a lot of coding that's easier to do in Linux, there's a
> >>>>> lot of Java applications for the visuals. Operating system-wise, there
> >>>>> are a lot of people preferring to use Macs rather than Windows."
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://www.cnet.com/news/interview-inside-cern-with-an-lhc-scientist/
> >>>>>
> >>>>> =======================================================================
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2012
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The Atlas control room.  All 8 of the big screens are running Linux
> >>>>> (zoom in on the window controls).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://www.google.ch/maps/@46.2353941,6.0557112,2a,90y,273.33h,88.03t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s4v_cqxink5ynRNL3dHje_A!2e0!3e5!7i13312!8i6656
> >>>>>
> >>>>> =======================================================================
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2012:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The main CERN control center.  All Windows - except where it's not.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> With "where it's not" being practically everywhere.
> >>>>
> >>>>> https://www.google.ch/maps/@46.2546333,6.0569245,2a,75y,322.71h,83.1t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sIoZWzIfJXwJ-6R8gXKEsrA!2e0!3e5!7i13312!8i6656
> >>>>>
> >>>>> =======================================================================
> >>>>
> >>>> That's the same street view I took the screenshot from.
> >>>>
> >>>> https://www.google.ch/maps/@46.254712,6.0567695,2a,54.7y,261.5h,75.88t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sHHl0fHKIFBxGx-aBuZwMVg!2e0!3e5!7i13312!8i6656
> >>>>
> >>>> Like I said, you can find a couple doze terminals here and there.
> >>>> The vast majority are Linux.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> And none of them were used like that one Winders laptop is,
> >>> propping up a short table leg.
> >>>
> >>
> >> What laptop can run only Windows?
> > 
> > The Q is which can run Linux 100%? A few. Thinkpads excellently. But forget
> > it with onboard Nvidia etc unless you're au fait with recovery. Intel HD
> > works a charm with Linux.
> 
> I'd say that a computer with Intel hardware probably runs better on 
> Linux than it does in Windows. However, a computer with Intel hardware 
> across the board is crippled by the fact that it can't do intensive 
> graphics work or play games. If that's not a problem and productivity is 
> the only thing being done, Linux is pretty great.
> 
> 
> -- 
> SilverSlimer
> Minds: @silverslimer



Thanks to Steven Petruzzellis and his 'friends' you now need a recognized list. If others start targeting him again I will jump in... as that is just my way. I'm referring to our clan here, not drive by loons, who think for themselves. 

What is your evidence? Does Klaus Schadenfreude believe the lies Steven Petruzzellis is pushing? 

LOL! 



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#478726

FromChris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
Date2018-11-22 17:47 -0500
Message-ID<pt7cum$rio$7@dont-email.me>
In reply to#478611
Hadron Quark wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

>> What laptop can run only Windows?
>
> The Q is which can run Linux 100%? A few. Thinkpads excellently. But forget
> it with onboard Nvidia etc unless you're au fait with recovery. Intel HD
> works a charm with Linux.

I haven't had problems with Nvidia on Linux in ages.  Of course, I generally
rely on Debian to sort out the issues before they get to me.

I'm really torn.  Between now and July I intend to get a new laptop.
I'm really tempted to get one of the Galago Pros from System76.

But they're so expensive!  Should I wait until I see what I want at Office
Depot or Staples?

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		-- William Shakespeare, "Henry IV"

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#478735

FromSteve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2018-11-22 15:34 -0800
Message-ID<7bd97172-7b8c-4fdd-b71a-26015eaee9ea@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#478726
On Thursday, November 22, 2018 at 4:09:12 PM UTC-7, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> Hadron Quark wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
> 
> >> What laptop can run only Windows?
> >
> > The Q is which can run Linux 100%? A few. Thinkpads excellently. But forget
> > it with onboard Nvidia etc unless you're au fait with recovery. Intel HD
> > works a charm with Linux.
> 
> I haven't had problems with Nvidia on Linux in ages.  Of course, I generally
> rely on Debian to sort out the issues before they get to me.
> 
> I'm really torn.  Between now and July I intend to get a new laptop.
> I'm really tempted to get one of the Galago Pros from System76.
> 
> But they're so expensive!  Should I wait until I see what I want at Office
> Depot or Staples?
> 
> -- 
> The better part of valor is discretion.
> 		-- William Shakespeare, "Henry IV"



Now that Klaus Schadenfreude grokked how successful Troll Master Steve Carroll is at playing 'target' he understands this isn't quite as outta whack as it appeared. Someone's reverse compiled Systemd with (I'd guess) value iteration to regurgitate posts which are hard to distinguish from those of one particular legit member. The content is a bunch of baby sh*t. We know what that means. 

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#478817

FromSteve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2018-11-23 05:23 -0800
Message-ID<9d9e0ed6-7a72-4457-94ae-c4b22bddf623@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#478735
On Thursday, November 22, 2018 at 4:34:14 PM UTC-7, Steve Carroll wrote:
> On Thursday, November 22, 2018 at 4:09:12 PM UTC-7, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> > Hadron Quark wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
> > 
> > >> What laptop can run only Windows?
> > >
> > > The Q is which can run Linux 100%? A few. Thinkpads excellently. But forget
> > > it with onboard Nvidia etc unless you're au fait with recovery. Intel HD
> > > works a charm with Linux.
> > 
> > I haven't had problems with Nvidia on Linux in ages.  Of course, I generally
> > rely on Debian to sort out the issues before they get to me.
> > 
> > I'm really torn.  Between now and July I intend to get a new laptop.
> > I'm really tempted to get one of the Galago Pros from System76.
> > 
> > But they're so expensive!  Should I wait until I see what I want at Office
> > Depot or Staples?
> > 
> > -- 
> > The better part of valor is discretion.
> > 		-- William Shakespeare, "Henry IV"
> 
> 
> 
> Now that Klaus Schadenfreude grokked how successful Troll Master Steve Carroll is at playing 'target' he understands this isn't quite as outta whack as it appeared. Someone's reverse compiled Systemd with (I'd guess) value iteration to regurgitate posts which are hard to distinguish from those of one particular legit member. The content is a bunch of baby sh*t. We know what that means. 
> 
> -- 
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> Jonas Eklundh



You're six seconds away from being in F. Russell's kill file. You're clueless! 

Dropping support for command line holdovers is long overdue. 

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#478416

FromSteve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2018-11-21 07:18 -0800
Message-ID<7b775268-be36-4f47-98f1-869970414f2b@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#478408
On Wednesday, November 21, 2018 at 7:31:47 AM UTC-7, DFS wrote:
> On 11/20/2018 10:42 PM, owl wrote:
> > DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
> >> On 11/20/2018 10:36 AM, owl wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> I didn't realize CERN had so many secretaries.
> >>
> >>
> >> I bet the last button clicked to start a collider experiment is on a
> >> Windows screen.
> >>
> >>
> > 
> > Google has a street view inside of CERN control room.  You can walk
> > around and see about 80 computer screens.  I see two or three obvious
> > windows machines (at login prompt).  Where you see other desktops,
> > *maybe* one was windows.  Others look like Linux/Unix of some sort,
> > but it's hard to tell.  It's pretty clear that most of the ones in the
> > screenshot below of CERN control room (upper image) are running CERN's
> > Linux (compared to two known CERN Scientific Linux screens):
> > 
> > https://imgur.com/a/FtmEUvf
> 
> =======================================================================
> 
> Way back when:
> 
> "CERN has a large Windows 95/NT infrastructure with
> more than 3500 PCs connected that is used as one of
> the main information services for the laboratory. This
> infrastructure is used for a wide set of services,
> including Office Automation, Computing Aided
> Engineering, Calculations, Software Development,
> and ... controls."
> 
> (note the Access db diagram on pg 5.  I wept with pride...)
> 
> 
> http://conference.kek.jp/PCaPAC99/cdrom/paper/tu/tu5.pdf
> 
> 
> =======================================================================
> 2003:
> 
> SOFTWARE DEPLOYMENT AND CONFIGURATION OF THE CERN ACCELERATOR CONTROL 
> ROOMS CONSOLES
> M. Albert, G. Crockford, E. Hatziangeli , S. Lopienski CERN, Geneva, 
> Switzerland
> 
> https://accelconf.web.cern.ch/accelconf/ica03/PAPERS/WP533.PDF
> 
> 
> "These PCs are running Windows 2000 Professional using the NICE 
> computing environment [1] (CERN Windows 2000 client-server architecture).
> 
> ...
> 
> Moving away from UNIX X-terminals to Windows based PC consoles required 
> serious changes in the present strategy for software deployment."
> 
> 
> =======================================================================
> 
> 2008
> 
> "Sliding glass doors part quietly into a large, modern room with
> [Microsoft W]indows that stretch all the way up to the high ceiling."
> 
> https://spectrum.ieee.org/computing/embedded-systems/powering-the-large-hadron-collider
> 
> 
> =======================================================================
> 
> 2009
> 
> "What operating system do you all use?
> 
> "A lot of it is Linux-based for the actual control-room infrastructure 
> stuff. There's a lot of coding that's easier to do in Linux, there's a 
> lot of Java applications for the visuals. Operating system-wise, there 
> are a lot of people preferring to use Macs rather than Windows."
> 
> https://www.cnet.com/news/interview-inside-cern-with-an-lhc-scientist/
> 
> =======================================================================
> 
> 2012
> 
> The Atlas control room.  All 8 of the big screens are running Linux 
> (zoom in on the window controls).
> 
> https://www.google.ch/maps/@46.2353941,6.0557112,2a,90y,273.33h,88.03t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s4v_cqxink5ynRNL3dHje_A!2e0!3e5!7i13312!8i6656
> 
> =======================================================================
> 
> 2012:
> 
> The main CERN control center.  All Windows - except where it's not.
> 
> https://www.google.ch/maps/@46.2546333,6.0569245,2a,75y,322.71h,83.1t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sIoZWzIfJXwJ-6R8gXKEsrA!2e0!3e5!7i13312!8i6656
> 
> =======================================================================



Klaus Schadenfreude is the upshot of the truth that humanists have been hired to subvert indoctrinating the next generation. It is not an accident that he is an unintelligent Marxist. 

What do you get out of lying? 

I have been here to understand the depths of Klaus Schadenfreude's lechery. 

Honestly, those of you who troll are not able to control yourselves anymore. 



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#478569

FromRonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com>
Date2018-11-22 03:43 +0000
Message-ID<pt58lq$lnq$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#478362
On 2018-11-21, owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
> DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>> On 11/20/2018 10:36 AM, owl wrote:
>>>>
>>> 
>>> I didn't realize CERN had so many secretaries.
>> 
>> 
>> I bet the last button clicked to start a collider experiment is on a 
>> Windows screen.
>> 
>> 
>
> Google has a street view inside of CERN control room.  You can walk
> around and see about 80 computer screens.  I see two or three obvious
> windows machines (at login prompt).  Where you see other desktops,
> *maybe* one was windows.  Others look like Linux/Unix of some sort,
> but it's hard to tell.  It's pretty clear that most of the ones in the
> screenshot below of CERN control room (upper image) are running CERN's
> Linux (compared to two known CERN Scientific Linux screens):
>
> https://imgur.com/a/FtmEUvf

The truth is sure inconvenient for lying trolls, isn't it?

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#478572

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-11-21 21:02 -0700
Message-ID<g5mo3iFd2amU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#478569
On 11/21/18 8:43 PM, RonB wrote:
> On 2018-11-21, owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>> DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>>> On 11/20/2018 10:36 AM, owl wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I didn't realize CERN had so many secretaries.
>>>
>>>
>>> I bet the last button clicked to start a collider experiment is on a
>>> Windows screen.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Google has a street view inside of CERN control room.  You can walk
>> around and see about 80 computer screens.  I see two or three obvious
>> windows machines (at login prompt).  Where you see other desktops,
>> *maybe* one was windows.  Others look like Linux/Unix of some sort,
>> but it's hard to tell.  It's pretty clear that most of the ones in the
>> screenshot below of CERN control room (upper image) are running CERN's
>> Linux (compared to two known CERN Scientific Linux screens):
>>
>> https://imgur.com/a/FtmEUvf
> 
> The truth is sure inconvenient for lying trolls, isn't it?
> 

CERN is known for backing open source:

<https://home.cern/science/computing/open-source-open-science>

Not sure why anyone would have an issue with this.

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They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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#478725

FromChris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
Date2018-11-22 17:44 -0500
Message-ID<pt7cpf$rio$6@dont-email.me>
In reply to#478569
RonB wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On 2018-11-21, owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>> DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>>> On 11/20/2018 10:36 AM, owl wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I didn't realize CERN had so many secretaries.
>>> 
>>> I bet the last button clicked to start a collider experiment is on a 
>>> Windows screen.
>>
>> Google has a street view inside of CERN control room.  You can walk
>> around and see about 80 computer screens.  I see two or three obvious
>> windows machines (at login prompt).  Where you see other desktops,
>> *maybe* one was windows.  Others look like Linux/Unix of some sort,
>> but it's hard to tell.  It's pretty clear that most of the ones in the
>> screenshot below of CERN control room (upper image) are running CERN's
>> Linux (compared to two known CERN Scientific Linux screens):
>>
>> https://imgur.com/a/FtmEUvf
>
> The truth is sure inconvenient for lying trolls, isn't it?

Some might be Solaris machines, too.

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#478638

FromDFS <nospam@nospam.com>
Date2018-11-22 10:41 -0500
Message-ID<v5AJD.790060$cL2.470344@fx43.iad>
In reply to#478362
On 11/20/2018 10:42 PM, owl wrote:
> DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>> On 11/20/2018 10:36 AM, owl wrote:
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> I didn't realize CERN had so many secretaries.
>> 
>> 
>> I bet the last button clicked to start a collider experiment is on
>> a Windows screen.
>> 
>> 
> 
> Google has a street view inside of CERN control room.  You can walk 
> around and see about 80 computer screens.  I see two or three
> obvious windows machines (at login prompt).  Where you see other
> desktops, *maybe* one was windows.  Others look like Linux/Unix of
> some sort, but it's hard to tell.  It's pretty clear that most of the
> ones in the screenshot below of CERN control room (upper image) are
> running CERN's Linux (compared to two known CERN Scientific Linux
> screens):
> 
> https://imgur.com/a/FtmEUvf



You also have to open a bottle of hydrogen, and Linux males (betas that 
they are) struggle with such physical tasks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDdPuL-uOQc

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#478640

FromSteve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2018-11-22 08:00 -0800
Message-ID<f8aa1bb4-329e-47b4-8e39-00682582ec47@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#478638
On Thursday, November 22, 2018 at 8:40:14 AM UTC-7, DFS wrote:
> On 11/20/2018 10:42 PM, owl wrote:
> > DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
> >> On 11/20/2018 10:36 AM, owl wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>> 
> >>> I didn't realize CERN had so many secretaries.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> I bet the last button clicked to start a collider experiment is on
> >> a Windows screen.
> >> 
> >> 
> > 
> > Google has a street view inside of CERN control room.  You can walk 
> > around and see about 80 computer screens.  I see two or three
> > obvious windows machines (at login prompt).  Where you see other
> > desktops, *maybe* one was windows.  Others look like Linux/Unix of
> > some sort, but it's hard to tell.  It's pretty clear that most of the
> > ones in the screenshot below of CERN control room (upper image) are
> > running CERN's Linux (compared to two known CERN Scientific Linux
> > screens):
> > 
> > https://imgur.com/a/FtmEUvf
> 
> 
> 
> You also have to open a bottle of hydrogen, and Linux males (betas that 
> they are) struggle with such physical tasks.
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDdPuL-uOQc



And in response you have nothing but an attempt to start more flooding. 

Honestly, what lie? You purchased it and benchmarked it and your "diagnostic abilities" lead you to that verdict, and... But Jeff 'The Moron' Relf feels the need to attack the herd. So be it. 

Lying sack of shit AKA Jeff 'The Moron' Relf does it every time. Then the flood begins. Because the mama's boy just has to run to other groups. 

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#478647

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2018-11-22 16:13 +0000
Message-ID<xx1p49zb803ta.gu3@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#478638
DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
> On 11/20/2018 10:42 PM, owl wrote:
>> DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>>> On 11/20/2018 10:36 AM, owl wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I didn't realize CERN had so many secretaries.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I bet the last button clicked to start a collider experiment is on
>>> a Windows screen.
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> Google has a street view inside of CERN control room.  You can walk 
>> around and see about 80 computer screens.  I see two or three
>> obvious windows machines (at login prompt).  Where you see other
>> desktops, *maybe* one was windows.  Others look like Linux/Unix of
>> some sort, but it's hard to tell.  It's pretty clear that most of the
>> ones in the screenshot below of CERN control room (upper image) are
>> running CERN's Linux (compared to two known CERN Scientific Linux
>> screens):
>> 
>> https://imgur.com/a/FtmEUvf
> 
> 
> 
> You also have to open a bottle of hydrogen, and Linux males (betas that 
> they are) struggle with such physical tasks.
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDdPuL-uOQc

Democrats killed science.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superconducting_Super_Collider
<quote>
The SSC's planned collision energy of 2 x 20 = 40 TeV was roughly three
times that of the 2 x 6.5 = 13 TeV (as of June 2015) of its European
counterpart, the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) at CERN in Geneva.[23]
</quote>

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#478727

FromChris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
Date2018-11-22 17:53 -0500
Message-ID<pt7da5$rio$8@dont-email.me>
In reply to#478647
owl wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> Democrats killed science.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superconducting_Super_Collider
> <quote>
> The SSC's planned collision energy of 2 x 20 = 40 TeV was roughly three
> times that of the 2 x 6.5 = 13 TeV (as of June 2015) of its European
> counterpart, the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) at CERN in Geneva.[23]
> </quote>

That doesn't refer to Democrats.  Physics Today mentions Congress.
The article you quote doesn't call out "Democrats", just "Congress",
with Bill Clinton (Democrat) noting regret at the serious loss for science.

There's a lot more to it than the article mentions, I think.

Perhaps it can be attributed to the decline of the West, or the decline of
scientific support in general by our "demon-haunted world".

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#478741

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2018-11-23 00:20 +0000
Message-ID<0ba0803ga.h3@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#478727
Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
> owl wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
> 
>> Democrats killed science.
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superconducting_Super_Collider
>> <quote>
>> The SSC's planned collision energy of 2 x 20 = 40 TeV was roughly three
>> times that of the 2 x 6.5 = 13 TeV (as of June 2015) of its European
>> counterpart, the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) at CERN in Geneva.[23]
>> </quote>
> 
> That doesn't refer to Democrats.  Physics Today mentions Congress.


Democrat House.
Democrat Senate.
Democrat President.


> The article you quote doesn't call out "Democrats", just "Congress",
> with Bill Clinton (Democrat) noting regret at the serious loss for science.
> 
> There's a lot more to it than the article mentions, I think.
> 
> Perhaps it can be attributed to the decline of the West, or the decline of
> scientific support in general by our "demon-haunted world".
> 

Yeah.  Forgot about that.  Thanks, Obama.

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#478743

FromSteve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2018-11-22 16:36 -0800
Message-ID<94356b67-c7e5-4c06-bde7-2dae828157c7@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#478741
On Thursday, November 22, 2018 at 5:20:18 PM UTC-7, owl wrote:
> Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
> > owl wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
> > 
> >> Democrats killed science.
> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superconducting_Super_Collider
> >> <quote>
> >> The SSC's planned collision energy of 2 x 20 = 40 TeV was roughly three
> >> times that of the 2 x 6.5 = 13 TeV (as of June 2015) of its European
> >> counterpart, the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) at CERN in Geneva.[23]
> >> </quote>
> > 
> > That doesn't refer to Democrats.  Physics Today mentions Congress.
> 
> 
> Democrat House.
> Democrat Senate.
> Democrat President.
> 
> 
> > The article you quote doesn't call out "Democrats", just "Congress",
> > with Bill Clinton (Democrat) noting regret at the serious loss for science.
> > 
> > There's a lot more to it than the article mentions, I think.
> > 
> > Perhaps it can be attributed to the decline of the West, or the decline of
> > scientific support in general by our "demon-haunted world".
> > 
> 
> Yeah.  Forgot about that.  Thanks, Obama.



GNOME is clearly my second favorite DE and the only one I suggest to Linux converts. Primary interface is Plasma, though. Being able to do what Klaus Schadenfreude does is all you require after transitioning. 

And given how regularly it is clear that HWSNBN's post is some skew of a statement Klaus Schadenfreude shared which had been a blow on HWSNBN for something he did which was absurd/dishonest/etc... its clearly a daily reminder of HWSNBN's unending butthurt for having been so regularly defeated. Heck, just recently he was declaring himself the only "true Linux advocate", and claiming that "advocates" (in mockery-quotes, because he is afraid of them) are trying to make Linux become like the Mac. 

I shan't ask HWSNBN how any part of Klaus Schadenfreude's rear tastes no matter how many times HWSNBN kisses it. So HWSNBN changed his story to Klaus Schadenfreude talking about his family. Are people still debating this? 

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#479475

FromChris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
Date2018-11-25 18:26 -0500
Message-ID<ptfcck$qvl$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#478741
owl wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
>> owl wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>> 
>>> Democrats killed science.
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superconducting_Super_Collider
>>> <quote>
>>> The SSC's planned collision energy of 2 x 20 = 40 TeV was roughly three
>>> times that of the 2 x 6.5 = 13 TeV (as of June 2015) of its European
>>> counterpart, the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) at CERN in Geneva.[23]
>>> </quote>
>> 
>> That doesn't refer to Democrats.  Physics Today mentions Congress.
>
> Democrat House.
> Democrat Senate.
> Democrat President.

Oh, I see.  However:
   
   Congress officially canceled the project October 21, 1993 after $2
   billion had been spent.[13] Many factors contributed to the
   cancellation:[3] rising cost estimates (to $12bn);[14] poor management by
   physicists and Department of Energy officials; the end of the need to
   prove the supremacy of American science with the collapse of the Soviet
   Union; belief that many smaller scientific experiments of equal merit
   could be funded for the same cost; Congress's desire to generally reduce
   spending (the USA was running a $255bn budget deficit); the reluctance of
   Texas Governor Ann Richards;[15] and President Bill Clinton's initial
   lack of support for a project begun during the administrations of
   Richards's predecessor, Bill Clements, and Clinton's predecessors, Ronald
   Reagan and George H. W. Bush

You're compression of events here is, of course, purely propagandistic.

-- 
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		-- William Shakespeare, "Julius Caesar"

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#479569

Fromchrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid>
Date2018-11-26 07:22 -0600
Message-ID<6psnvdhg15kv05urb5sn0at9khqle8unbr@4ax.com>
In reply to#479475
Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

>You're compression of events here is, of course, purely propagandistic.

You think?  They need only to fool some simpletons, to join their
coalition of the greedy and the selfish and the religious kooks.

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