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Re: The problem with not owning the software

From Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: The problem with not owning the software
Date 2025-01-05 00:37 +0000
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On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 10:32:52 -0500, DFS wrote:

> I've been itching for the better part of 20 years for a cola-based MS
> Office detractor to do some significant LO/Basic coding so it could be
> compared to my Office/VBA.

Do you have an equivalent to this <https://github.com/eea/odfpy>?

Here’s just one part of my invoice-formatting code:

        def write_invoice_header(self, invoice) :
            self.doc = odf.opendocument.OpenDocumentText()
            self.invoice_prefix = invoice["invoice_prefix"]

            now = time.time()
            for \
                this_meta \
            in \
                (
                    odf.dc.Title(text = "Invoice for %s" % invoice["client_name"].split("\n", 1)[0]),
                    odf.dc.Creator(text = "Geek Central Business"),
                    odf.meta.CreationDate(text = format_odf_time(now)),
                    odf.dc.Date(text = format_odf_time(now)), # interpreted by OOo as modification date
                ) \
            :
                self.doc.meta.addElement(this_meta)
            #end for

            self.doc.fontfacedecls.addElement \
              (
                odf.style.FontFace
                  (
                    name = invoice_font,
                    fontfamilygeneric = "roman",
                    fontpitch = "variable"
                  )
              )
            default_text_properties = odf.style.TextProperties \
              (
                fontname = invoice_font,
                fontfamilygeneric = "roman"
              )
            default_text_properties.setAttrNS(odf.namespaces.FONS, "font-family", invoice_font)
            link_element \
              (
                construct = odf.style.DefaultStyle,
                attrs = dict(family = "paragraph"),
                parent = self.doc.styles,
                children =
                    (
                        default_text_properties,
                        odf.style.ParagraphProperties
                          (
                            marginbottom = "0.21cm",
                            lineheight = "115%",
                          ),
                    )
              )

            self.doc.text.addElement \
              (
                odf.text.P
                  (
                    stylename = link_element
                      (
                        construct = odf.style.Style,
                        attrs = dict(name = "top title", family = "paragraph"),
                        parent = self.doc.automaticstyles,
                        children =
                            (
                                odf.style.ParagraphProperties
                                  (
                                    textalign = "center",
                                    marginbottom = "0.71cm"
                                  ),
                            )
                      ),
                    text = "%(gst)sINVOICE" % {"gst" : ("", "TAX ")[self.gst_rate != None]}
                  )
              )

            cust_info_item_attrs = dict \
              (
                textindent = "-2.0cm", # counteract marginleft on first line
                marginleft = "2.0cm", # indent for lines after first
              )
            cust_info_item_style = link_element \
              (
                construct = odf.style.Style,
                attrs = dict(name = "cust info item", family = "paragraph"),
                parent = self.doc.automaticstyles,
                children =
                    (
                        odf.style.ParagraphProperties(**cust_info_item_attrs),
                    )
              )
            cust_info_item_attrs["breakbefore"] = "column"
            cust_info_item_style_2 = link_element \
              (
                construct = odf.style.Style,
                attrs = dict(name = "cust info item 2", family = "paragraph"),
                parent = self.doc.automaticstyles,
                children =
                    (
                        odf.style.ParagraphProperties(**cust_info_item_attrs),
                    )
              )

            cust_info_style = link_element \
              (
                construct = odf.style.Style,
                attrs = dict(name = "cust info", family = "section"),
                parent = self.doc.automaticstyles,
                children =
                    (
                        link_element \
                          (
                            construct = odf.style.SectionProperties,
                            children =
                                (
                                    odf.style.Columns(columncount = 2),
                                )
                          ),
                    )
              )
            cust_info_name_style = link_element \
              (
                construct = odf.style.Style,
                attrs = dict(name = "cust info name", family = "text"),
                parent = self.doc.automaticstyles,
                children =
                    (
                        odf.style.TextProperties(fontweight = "bold"),
                    )
              )

            cust_info = odf.text.Section(name = "cust info", stylename = cust_info_style)
            for \
                item_name, item_value, new_col \
            in \
                (
                    (
                        ("Client", invoice["client_name"] + "\n" + invoice["client_address"], False),
                        ("Contact", invoice["client_contact"], False),
                        ("Date", format_pretty_date(invoice["when_generated"]), True),
                        (
                            "Pay to",
                                "\n".join((details.name, details.address_1, details.address_2))
                            +
                                (
                                    "\n" + details.country_name,
                                    "",
                                )[self.gst_rate != None],
                            False
                        ),
                        ("Bank a/c", details.bank_account, False),
                    )
                +
                    (
                        (),
                        (
                            ("GST No", details.ird_nr, False),
                        )
                    )[self.gst_rate != None]
                ) \
            :
                this_item = odf.text.P \
                  (
                    stylename = (cust_info_item_style, cust_info_item_style_2)[new_col]
                  )
                add_elements \
                  (
                    this_item,
                    odf.text.Span(stylename = cust_info_name_style, text = item_name),
                    odf.text.Tab(),
                  )
                first_line = True
                for line in item_value.split("\n") :
                    if not first_line :
                        this_item.addElement(odf.text.LineBreak())
                    #end if
                    this_item.addElement \
                      (
                        odf.text.Span(text = line)
                      )
                    first_line = False
                #end for
                cust_info.addElement(this_item)
            #end for
            self.doc.text.addElement(cust_info)

            link_element \
              (
                construct = odf.text.P,
                attrs = dict
                  (
                    stylename = link_element
                      (
                        construct = odf.style.Style,
                        attrs = dict(name = "work header", family = "paragraph"),
                        parent = self.doc.automaticstyles,
                        children =
                            (
                                odf.style.TextProperties(fontweight = "bold"),
                                link_element
                                  (
                                    construct = odf.style.ParagraphProperties,
                                    children =
                                        (
                                            make_tab_stops((dict(position = "15.1cm"),)),
                                        )
                                  ),
                            )
                      )
                  ),
                parent = self.doc.text,
                children =
                    (
                        odf.text.Span(text = "Description of Work"),
                        odf.text.Tab(),
                        odf.text.Span(text = "Charge"),
                    )
              )
            self.work_item_tabs = \
                (
                    dict
                      (
                        type = "char",
                        char = ".",
                        position = "15.9cm"
                      ),
                ) # I can't simply build one odf.style.TabStops object and reuse it
            self.work_item_style = link_element \
              (
                construct = odf.style.Style,
                attrs = dict(name = "work item", family = "paragraph"),
                parent = self.doc.automaticstyles,
                children =
                    (
                        link_element
                          (
                            construct = odf.style.ParagraphProperties,
                            children =
                                (
                                    make_tab_stops(self.work_item_tabs),
                                )
                          ),
                    )
              )
        #end write_invoice_header

I can post more, if you like.

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                Re: The problem with not owning the software rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-02 19:36 +0000
                Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-04 02:09 +0000
                Re: The problem with not owning the software Farley Flud <fflud@gnu.rocks> - 2024-12-31 19:25 +0000
                Re: The problem with not owning the software DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-04 11:46 -0500
                Re: The problem with not owning the software "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-31 20:27 +0100
                Re: The problem with not owning the software rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-29 21:16 +0000
                Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-29 22:57 +0000
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                Re: The problem with not owning the software rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-07 02:31 +0000
                Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-07 14:12 +0000
                Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-08 02:26 +0000
                Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 13:28 +0000
                Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-08 21:28 +0000
                [OT] Re: The problem with not owning the software snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-01-05 01:50 +0000
                Re: [OT] Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-05 03:01 +0000
                Re: [OT] Re: The problem with not owning the software snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-01-05 03:25 +0000
                Re: [OT] Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-05 06:47 +0000
                Re: [OT] Re: The problem with not owning the software Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-05 08:20 -0500
                Re: [OT] Re: The problem with not owning the software DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-08 12:21 -0500
                Re: [OT] Re: The problem with not owning the software CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-08 14:10 -0500
                Re: The problem with not owning the software Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-04 21:18 -0500
                [OT] Re: The problem with not owning the software snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-01-05 02:34 +0000
                Re: [OT] Re: The problem with not owning the software Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-04 22:08 -0500
                Re: [OT] Re: The problem with not owning the software -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-04 22:34 -0500
                Re: [OT] Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-05 07:19 -0500
                Re: [OT] Re: The problem with not owning the software -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-05 10:39 -0500
                Re: [OT] Re: The problem with not owning the software snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-01-05 03:39 +0000
                Re: [OT] Re: The problem with not owning the software Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-05 08:13 -0500
                Re: [OT] Re: The problem with not owning the software chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-05 08:52 -0600
                Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 16:32 +0000
                Re: The problem with not owning the software Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-04 20:53 -0500
                Re: The problem with not owning the software Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-28 21:26 -0500
                Re: The problem with not owning the software rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-29 06:38 +0000
                Re: The problem with not owning the software Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-29 07:17 -0500
                Re: The problem with not owning the software Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2024-12-29 13:19 +0000
                Re: The problem with not owning the software Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-29 08:48 -0500
                Re: The problem with not owning the software chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2024-12-29 08:02 -0600
                Re: The problem with not owning the software Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-29 09:08 -0500
                Re: The problem with not owning the software Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2024-12-29 19:32 +0000
                Re: The problem with not owning the software Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2024-12-29 19:46 +0000
                Re: The problem with not owning the software rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-29 20:56 +0000
                Re: The problem with not owning the software Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-29 17:03 -0500
                Re: The problem with not owning the software Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-31 23:32 -0600
                Re: The problem with not owning the software DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-05 11:05 -0500
                Re: The problem with not owning the software Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-05 13:29 -0500
                Re: The problem with not owning the software -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-05 13:53 -0500
                Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-05 15:08 -0500
                Re: The problem with not owning the software Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-06 10:17 -0500
                Re: The problem with not owning the software Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-06 10:28 -0500
                Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-06 11:26 -0500
                Re: The problem with not owning the software DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-06 12:34 -0500
                Re: The problem with not owning the software Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-06 12:40 -0500
                Re: The problem with not owning the software Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-06 14:23 -0500
                Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-06 16:27 -0500
                Re: The problem with not owning the software -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-29 13:21 -0500
                Re: The problem with not owning the software Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2024-12-29 07:41 -0700
                Re: The problem with not owning the software DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2024-12-30 19:05 -0500
                Re: The problem with not owning the software Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-30 20:50 -0500
                Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-02 12:09 +0000
                Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-02 22:05 +0000
                Re: The problem with not owning the software Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-03 09:09 -0500
                Re: The problem with not owning the software rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-03 20:33 +0000
                Re: The problem with not owning the software pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-01-03 21:00 +0000
                Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-03 23:28 +0000
                Re: The problem with not owning the software Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-04 21:17 -0500
                Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-05 02:57 +0000
                Re: The problem with not owning the software -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-04 22:25 -0500
                Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-04 02:19 +0000
                Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-04 04:49 +0000
                Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 01:10 +0000
                Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-05 02:52 +0000
                Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 15:55 +0000
                Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-06 00:20 +0000
                Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-06 08:11 +0000
                Re: The problem with not owning the software DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-06 16:16 -0500
                Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-06 22:46 +0000
                Re: The problem with not owning the software Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-01-11 11:36 +0000
                Re: The problem with not owning the software Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-31 23:20 -0600
                Re: The problem with not owning the software DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2024-12-30 18:58 -0500
                Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-31 00:59 +0000
                Re: The problem with not owning the software DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2024-12-31 02:18 -0500
                Re: The problem with not owning the software Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-31 08:41 -0500
                Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-12-31 13:08 -0500
                Re: The problem with not owning the software DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2024-12-31 13:54 -0500
                Re: The problem with not owning the software rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-31 19:26 +0000
                Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-01 07:43 -0500
                Re: The problem with not owning the software DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-04 10:32 -0500
                Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-05 00:37 +0000
                Re: The problem with not owning the software DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-04 19:43 -0500
                Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-05 02:47 +0000
                Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-31 18:58 +0000
                Re: The problem with not owning the software rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-31 19:25 +0000
                Re: The problem with not owning the software DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2024-12-31 19:32 -0500
                Re: The problem with not owning the software rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-01 01:43 +0000
          Re: The problem with not owning the software "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2024-12-25 11:53 +0800
      Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-12-30 08:24 +0000
        Re: The problem with not owning the software Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-30 10:08 -0500
          Re: The problem with not owning the software "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-31 20:32 +0100
            Re: The problem with not owning the software Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-31 21:34 -0500
          Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-01 16:47 +0000
            Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-01 19:29 +0000
              Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-02 12:09 +0000
                Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-02 21:59 +0000
                Re: The problem with not owning the software Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-02 18:01 -0500
                Re: The problem with not owning the software Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-03 11:26 +0000
                Re: The problem with not owning the software Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-03 08:55 -0500
                Re: The problem with not owning the software Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-03 14:33 +0000
                Re: The problem with not owning the software Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-04 19:32 -0500
                Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-05 02:46 +0000
                Re: The problem with not owning the software Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-05 15:46 +0000
                Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-06 00:17 +0000
                Re: The problem with not owning the software Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-06 14:57 +0000
                Re: The problem with not owning the software Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-05 02:47 +0000
                Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-04 02:14 +0000
                Re: The problem with not owning the software Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-04 02:09 +0000
      Re: The problem with not owning the software DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2024-12-30 19:02 -0500
        Re: The problem with not owning the software Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2024-12-31 10:10 +0000
          Re: The problem with not owning the software Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-31 08:50 -0500
          Re: The problem with not owning the software DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2024-12-31 12:09 -0500
            Re: The problem with not owning the software Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-01-04 10:31 +0000
  Re: The problem with not owning the software bad sector <forgetski@_INVALID.net> - 2024-12-25 16:19 -0500

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