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Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing

From	Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
Newsgroups	alt.comp.os.windows-11, comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject	Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing
Date	2024-12-31 21:09 +0000
Organization	NOYB
Message-ID	<vl1q21.7ro.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> (permalink)
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Alan K. <alan@invalid.com> wrote:
> On 12/31/24 03:19 PM, Joel wrote:
> > Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
> > 
> >> Yet another
> >> <https://www.zdnet.com/article/new-windows-11-24h2-bug-could-block-future-security-updates-see-whos-affected/>
> >> in the ongoing stream of bugs from Microsoft resulting from the
> >> Windows update process itself. This one breaks the ability to receive
> >> further security updates. So once you get it, how do you get an update
> >> to fix it? Particularly when there have already been updates that kept
> >> introducing their own new bugs?
> > 
> > Just incompetent, isn't it?  Why do they keep making the same
> > mistakes, again and again, releasing beta software as if it's ready
> > for prime time.  In 2019 it was what caused me to switch to Linux for
> > the first lengthy time (I'd installed it a few times but never used it
> > long-term).
> > 
> It's probably because none of them use it 24/7 or even 10 hours a day?
> IIHO if they did, they would see more issues.

  Yes, the problem is that for home/personal/<whatever> use, *'we'* are
the beta-testers. Where 'we' are those users who tinker to a smaller to
larger extent. Normal users, who just buy complete systems and let them
run, normally do not encounter these 'corner cases'. Pity for 'us', good
for 'them'.

  And in a business environment, there is (read: should be) no way that
IT departments let random updates loose on their tens/hundreds/thousands/
hundreds_of_thousands of systems.

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This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If  Your Time Is Worth Nothing Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-31 19:08 +0000
  Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If  Your Time Is Worth Nothing Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-31 15:19 -0500
    Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2024-12-31 15:41 -0500
      Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-31 21:09 +0000
    Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-31 21:40 -0500
      Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-31 22:14 -0500
        Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-31 22:16 -0500
          Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-31 22:46 -0500
            Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-01 07:50 -0500
              Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-01 08:37 -0500
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-01 09:20 -0500
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-01 10:06 -0500
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-01 23:31 +0000
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-01 19:26 -0500
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-02 19:14 +0000
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-01 09:38 -0600
    Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If  Your Time Is Worth Nothing Gregg Fowler <totsob@yahoo.com> - 2025-01-01 14:45 +0000
      Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-01 10:20 -0500
      Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If  Your Time Is Worth Nothing Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-01 11:42 -0500
      Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If  Your Time Is Worth Nothing Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-01 19:28 +0000
        Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If  Your Time Is Worth Nothing Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-01 14:34 -0500
          Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-01 18:17 -0500
            Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-01 18:30 -0500
              Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-01 19:23 -0500
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-01 20:10 -0500
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-02 08:32 -0500
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-02 19:00 +0000
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-02 15:04 -0500
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-03 15:18 +0000
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-04 20:10 -0500
            Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-01 23:46 -0500
              Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-02 00:15 -0500
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-02 08:58 -0500
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-02 12:11 -0500
          Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If  Your Time Is Worth Nothing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-01 23:38 +0000
            Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If  Your Time Is Worth Nothing Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-01 18:54 -0500
            Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-01 19:28 -0500
              Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-01 23:59 -0500
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-02 00:16 -0500
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-02 05:31 +0000
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-02 18:21 +0000
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-02 21:55 +0000
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-03 10:18 +0000
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-03 21:25 +0000
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-04 13:06 +0000
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-04 09:48 -0500
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-05 00:28 +0000
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-04 21:16 -0500
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-05 02:44 +0000
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-02 08:55 -0500
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-02 19:22 +0000
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-02 15:04 -0500
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-03 01:58 +0000
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-02 22:12 -0500
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-03 08:41 +0000
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-03 07:16 -0500
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-03 20:24 +0000
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-03 15:38 -0500
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-02 22:36 -0500
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-03 11:26 +0000
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-03 06:13 -0600
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-03 13:47 +0000
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-03 21:26 +0000
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-03 20:24 -0500
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-04 06:43 -0600
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-04 10:20 -0500
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-04 13:47 +0000
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-04 13:16 +0000
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-05 00:26 +0000
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-05 14:35 +0000
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-06 00:15 +0000
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-06 14:47 +0000
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-06 20:20 +0000
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-04 20:21 -0500
              Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-02 18:50 +0000
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-02 21:57 +0000
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-02 22:41 -0500
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-03 10:37 +0000
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-03 10:28 +0000
        Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If  Your Time Is Worth Nothing Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-01 20:19 +0000
          Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If  Your Time Is Worth Nothing Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-01 15:24 -0500
            Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If  Your Time Is Worth Nothing Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-01 21:14 +0000
              Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If  Your Time Is Worth Nothing Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-01 17:10 -0500
              Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If  Your Time Is Worth Nothing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-02 00:19 +0000
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-01 22:12 -0500
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-02 19:26 +0000
            Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If  Your Time Is Worth Nothing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-01 23:53 +0000
          Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If  Your Time Is Worth Nothing Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-01 21:54 +0000
            Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-01 22:42 -0500
              Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-02 05:29 +0000
            Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If  Your Time Is Worth Nothing Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-02 18:39 +0000
              Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If  Your Time Is Worth Nothing Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-02 21:56 +0000
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If  Your Time Is Worth Nothing Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-03 10:18 +0000
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If  Your Time Is Worth Nothing Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-03 21:27 +0000
        Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-01-26 19:07 +1100
          Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-27 17:14 -0500
  Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If  Your Time Is Worth Nothing Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-31 20:45 +0000
    Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If  Your Time Is Worth Nothing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-01 01:27 +0000
  Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-31 21:33 -0500
  Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-01 13:45 -0500
  Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If  Your Time Is Worth Nothing "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-01-02 13:50 +0100
    Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-02 09:47 -0500
    Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If  Your Time Is Worth Nothing Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-02 10:37 -0500
      Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-03 05:20 -0500
        Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-03 16:48 -0500
          Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-04 20:32 -0500
            Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-01-05 01:39 +0000
  Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> - 2025-01-05 00:43 +0000
    Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-05 02:45 +0000
      Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> - 2025-01-08 00:00 +0000
    Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-05 14:14 +0000
      Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-06 00:15 +0000
        Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-05 22:29 -0500
          Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-06 06:29 +0000
            Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> - 2025-01-08 00:09 +0000
              Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-08 02:24 +0000
                Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-07 22:44 -0500
        Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-06 14:48 +0000
          Re: This Is Why They Say Windows Is A Great OS -- If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-07 02:07 +0000

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