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Re: Enough of this "productivity, efficiency, and error-reduction" bullshit.

From	owl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject	Re: Enough of this "productivity, efficiency, and error-reduction" bullshit.
Date	2015-09-02 00:08 +0000
Organization	ok by me, so long as it doesn't get out of hand
Message-ID	<srmvnc83.dji@rooftop.invalid> (permalink)
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vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
> "productivity, efficiency, and error-reduction".

> What idiot came up with that?

> More important are security, reliability, and performance.  "Secure, 
> reliable, rapid" is how Linux works -- unlike other operating systems.

My old OpenBSD tshirt from the late 90's says "Free, Functional, Secure
-- Choose Three"  (Dufus gave me the idea for this almost-top-post).

> For example, let's talk about Security:

> http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/09/sneaky-adware-caught-accessing-
> users-mac-keychain-without-permission/

> Oh, let's look at a quote from the article:

>  _ _ _ _ _ _ _
> "What they're basically doing is using provided system calls to get the 
> location of the [permission] window and the location of the OK button in 
> the window," Thomas Reed, Malwarebytes' director of Mac offerings, told 
> Ars. "Then they're simulating a mouse click. I'm surprised nobody thought 
> of that before."
>  _ _ _ _ _ _ _

> It just goes to show that "those who don't understand Unix are doomed to 
> re-invent it".

> In this case, "visgrep" from xautomation can be used to find an "OK" 
> button in a dialog so that a mouse click can be synthesized to click on 
> the button.

How does xautomation compare with xdotool?

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Enough of this "productivity, efficiency, and error-reduction" bullshit. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-09-01 23:44 +0000
  Re: Enough of this "productivity, efficiency, and error-reduction" bullshit. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 00:08 +0000
    Re: Enough of this "productivity, efficiency, and error-reduction" bullshit. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 04:50 +0000
      Re: Enough of this "productivity, efficiency, and error-reduction" bullshit. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-09-02 08:14 +0000
        Re: Enough of this "productivity, efficiency, and error-reduction" bullshit. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-02 10:20 +0200
          Re: Enough of this "productivity, efficiency, and error-reduction" bullshit. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-02 05:04 -0700
            Enough of this "productivity, efficiency, and error-reduction" Snit-shit. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-02 14:28 +0200
              Re: Enough of this "productivity, efficiency, and error-reduction" Snit-shit. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-02 05:33 -0700
              Re: Enough of this "productivity, efficiency, and error-reduction" Snit-shit. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-02 07:35 -0500
                Re: Enough of this "productivity, efficiency, and error-reduction" Snit-shit. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-09-02 20:45 -0400
                Re: Enough of this "productivity, efficiency, and error-reduction" Snit-shit. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-03 08:44 +0200
                Re: Enough of this "productivity, efficiency, and error-reduction" Snit-shit. JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-09-03 10:58 -0500
                Re: Enough of this "productivity, efficiency, and error-reduction" Snit-shit. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-03 11:44 -0500
                Re: Enough of this "productivity, efficiency, and error-reduction" Snit-shit. ronb <ronbNOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 00:03 +0000
                Re: Enough of this "productivity, efficiency, and error-reduction" Snit-shit. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-04 06:52 -0500
                Re: Enough of this "productivity, efficiency, and error-reduction" Snit-shit. "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-03 09:02 -0400
                Re: Enough of this "productivity, efficiency, and error-reduction" Snit-shit. sbd <sbd.pambu@safe-mail.net> - 2015-09-04 09:57 -0300
                Re: Enough of this "productivity, efficiency, and error-reduction" Snit-shit. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-04 09:16 -0500
              Re: Enough of this "productivity, efficiency, and error-reduction" Snit-shit. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-09-02 19:34 +0000
                Re: Enough of this "productivity, efficiency, and error-reduction"Snit-shit. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-02 23:09 +0200
                Re: Enough of this "productivity, efficiency, and error-reduction"Snit-shit. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-03 01:10 +0200
                Re: Enough of this "productivity, efficiency, and error-reduction"Snit-shit. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-03 01:46 +0200
                Re: Enough of this "productivity, efficiency, and error-reduction"Snit-shit. ronb <ronbNOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 23:47 +0000
                Re: Enough of this "productivity, efficiency, and error-reduction"Snit-shit. ronb <ronbNOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 23:40 +0000
              Re: Enough of this "productivity, efficiency, and error-reduction" Snit-shit. JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-09-03 10:56 -0500
                Re: Enough of this "productivity, efficiency, and error-reduction" Snit-shit. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-09-04 00:56 +0000
                Re: Enough of this "productivity, efficiency, and error-reduction" Snit-shit. JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-09-04 11:22 -0500
                Re: Enough of this "productivity, efficiency, and error-reduction"Snit-shit. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-04 09:46 -0700
          Re: Enough of this "productivity, efficiency, and error-reduction" bullshit. ronb <ronbNOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 12:45 +0000
            Enough of this "productivity, efficiency, and error-reduction" Snitshit. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-02 16:09 +0200
            Re: Enough of this "productivity, efficiency, and error-reduction" bullshit. "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-02 10:33 -0400
              Re: Enough of this "productivity, efficiency, and error-reduction" bullshit. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 17:26 +0000
                Re: Enough of this "productivity, efficiency, and error-reduction" bullshit. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 10:40 -0700
        Re: Enough of this "productivity, efficiency, and error-reduction" bullshit. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-02 06:47 -0500
          Re: Enough of this "productivity, efficiency, and error-reduction" bullshit. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-02 05:13 -0700
        Re: Enough of this "productivity, efficiency, and error-reduction"bullshit. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-02 04:54 -0700
  Re: Enough of this "productivity, efficiency, and error-reduction" bullshit. deep - 2015-09-01 18:36 -0600
  Enough of this "productivity, efficiency, and error-reduction" bullshit. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 08:41 -0700
    Re: Enough of this "productivity, efficiency, and error-reduction" bullshit. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-09-02 19:38 +0000

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