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Re: Less than 1% care about Russia

From Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: Less than 1% care about Russia
Date 2018-07-31 17:44 -0700
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On 7/31/18 1:49 PM, vallor wrote:
> On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 10:54:20 -0700, Steve Carroll wrote:
> 
>> On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at 11:34:53 AM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
>>> On 7/31/18 9:45 AM, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>>> On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at 10:28:08 AM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
>>>>> On 7/31/18 9:08 AM, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>>>>> On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 3:07:07 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>> On 7/30/18 1:53 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 2:43:10 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 7/30/18 10:06 AM, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 10:45:14 AM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Very good, "Hugh"... but I'm also not buying your 'stats as
>>>>>>>>>>>>> reality'
>>>>>>>>>>>>> argument.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> And just where was that claim ever made?  Because by
>>>>>>>>>>>> definition,
>>>>>>>>>>>> the field of Statistics is not deterministic, but stochastic.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Carroll makes things up and posts bizarre accusations to put
>>>>>>>>>>> you on the defensive and work to keep the light off of his
>>>>>>>>>>> games.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And now the expected back peddling (with it's own cheering
>>>>>>>>>> section) begins...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ah, your blame game victim mentality shows itself again.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's just reality... you guys dug too deep, you both know the
>>>>>>>> reality of what I'm saying and you're now trying to soften your
>>>>>>>> landing. "Hugh" has done this many times... but you live there ;)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ah, another game of yours: you denied basic stats and evidence
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Correction: I'm denying certain kinds of stats aren't suitable as
>>>>>> conclusive evidence.
>>>>>> Reading is fundamental.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> For most people they can learn what they do not know... or at
>>>>>>>>> least try.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Translation: Snit has *no* comeback for someone pointing out  the
>>>>>>>> idiocy of hh's absurd 'analogy'.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now you are pretending I did not talk about his analogy and why it
>>>>>>> is pertinent.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How can it even be labeled an "analogy" to what I've mentioned when
>>>>>> it's based on things that are known? This actually makes sense to
>>>>>> you?!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> You continue to insist the stats and analogies to help you
>>>>> understand the stats are meaningful to you but you have given no
>>>>> evidence they are not quite reasonable. You reject them because they
>>>>> do not fit your views, which are filled with bigoted ideas of people
>>>>> from Mexico.
>>>>>
>>>>> Your game is to set the standard NOT at good evidence being
>>>>> provided, which it has, but to say one must convince YOU, which is
>>>>> absurd because you argue merely to argue, and you celebrate your
>>>>> willful ignorance.
>>>>>
>>>>> You also move goal posts... look at your comments above... not ONE
>>>>> quote of -hh's stats and other support to suggest why you think they
>>>>> are wrong.
>>>
>>>> ... that the alleged "analogy" isn't close to being one? True, and
>>>> you obviously agree as you failed to address the issue at all...
>>>> again.
>>>
>>> Ah, you say it is not true.
>>
>> So, in your tiny, diseased brain you believe that all crimes along the
>> southern border are as known (statistically speaking) as a coin landing
>> on one side or the other? This actually makes sense to you?!
> 
> This logical fallacy is known as the "extended analogy".
> And it ties into another of his fallacies... Carroll insists that 
because he was able to scavenge and forge a bunch of quotes over MANY 
years and at least ten groups this means I am wrong about... something. 
He never really quotes me being wrong about whatever he thinks I am 
wrong about.

But here we see you, me, chrisv, -hh, and others all noting how wrong he 
is. No need to dig back through the years. Now, to be fair, people 
speaking ABOUT him is not really evidence of him being wrong  (his own 
words are), but by HIS "logic" he has been proved wrong.

Again. :)


-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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Re: Less than 1% care about Russia -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-07-28 09:52 -0700
  Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-28 10:25 -0700
    Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-28 13:01 -0700
      Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-28 13:34 -0700
        Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-28 17:15 -0700
    Re: Less than 1% care about Russia -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-07-28 16:02 -0700
      Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-28 16:27 -0700
      Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-28 17:29 -0700
        Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-29 09:58 -0700
          Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-29 12:21 -0700
      Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-29 09:55 -0700
        Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-29 11:44 -0700
        Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-29 12:19 -0700
          Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-29 12:57 -0700
            Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-29 16:15 -0700
              Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-29 16:57 -0700
                Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-29 18:28 -0700
                Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-29 18:42 -0700
                Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-29 18:45 -0700
                Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-29 19:37 -0700
          Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-29 16:17 -0700
        Re: Less than 1% care about Russia SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-07-29 20:43 +0000
          Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-29 13:53 -0700
            Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-29 14:52 -0700
            Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-29 16:58 -0700
            Re: Less than 1% care about Russia SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-07-30 13:29 +0000
              Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-30 08:32 -0700
              Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-30 09:02 -0700
          Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-29 16:55 -0700
        Re: Less than 1% care about Russia -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-07-29 17:13 -0700
          Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-29 18:27 -0700
            Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-29 19:01 -0700
            Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-29 19:06 -0700
              Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-29 19:25 -0700
                Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-29 20:09 -0700
                Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-29 20:34 -0700
            Re: Less than 1% care about Russia -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-07-30 05:01 -0700
              Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-30 05:25 -0700
              Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-30 08:57 -0700
                Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-30 09:42 -0700
                Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-30 12:52 -0700
              Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-30 08:57 -0700
                Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-30 09:09 -0700
                Re: Less than 1% care about Russia -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-07-30 09:30 -0700
                Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-30 09:45 -0700
                Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-30 10:06 -0700
                Re: Less than 1% care about Russia vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-07-30 18:56 +0000
                Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-30 12:48 -0700
                Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-30 13:02 -0700
                Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Kompyler <kompyler@toke.com> - 2018-07-30 20:40 +0000
                Re: Less than 1% care about Russia GasPipe <vinnythegaspipe@motz.org> - 2018-07-30 16:40 -0400
                Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-30 12:58 -0700
                Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-30 13:13 -0700
                Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-30 13:43 -0700
                Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Kompyler <kompyler@toke.com> - 2018-07-30 20:49 +0000
                Re: Less than 1% care about Russia GasPipe <vinnythegaspipe@motz.org> - 2018-07-30 16:49 -0400
                Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-30 13:53 -0700
                Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-30 14:07 -0700
                Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-31 09:08 -0700
                Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-31 09:28 -0700
                Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-31 09:45 -0700
                Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-31 10:34 -0700
                Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-31 10:54 -0700
                Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-31 13:28 -0700
                Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-31 13:52 -0700
                Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-31 18:32 -0700
                Re: Less than 1% care about Russia vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-07-31 20:49 +0000
                Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-31 17:44 -0700
                Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-31 18:09 -0700
                Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-31 18:38 -0700
                Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-31 18:56 -0700
                Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-31 19:06 -0700
                Re: Less than 1% care about Russia vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-08-01 02:47 +0000
                Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-31 19:58 -0700
                Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-31 20:35 -0700
                Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-31 20:19 -0700
                Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-31 18:02 -0700
                Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-31 18:35 -0700
                Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-31 18:55 -0700
                Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-31 19:06 -0700
                Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-31 19:59 -0700
                Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-31 20:36 -0700
                Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-08-01 08:50 -0700
                Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-08-01 10:55 -0700
                Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-08-01 11:28 -0700
                Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-08-01 11:31 -0700
                Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-08-01 11:36 -0700
                Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-08-01 11:43 -0700
                Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-08-01 11:57 -0700
                Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-08-01 12:05 -0700
                Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-08-01 12:15 -0700
                Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-08-01 12:31 -0700
                Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-08-01 12:36 -0700
                Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-08-01 12:40 -0700
                Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-08-01 12:49 -0700
                Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-08-01 12:54 -0700
                Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-08-01 13:18 -0700
                Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-08-01 13:25 -0700
                Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-08-01 13:35 -0700
                Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-08-01 15:34 -0700
                Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-08-02 08:29 -0700
                Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-08-02 09:46 -0700
                Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-31 21:17 -0700
                Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-30 10:22 -0700
          Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-29 18:54 -0700
  Re: Less than 1% care about Russia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-28 12:50 -0700

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