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"Time and space and gravitation have no separate existence from matter."

From Jeff-Relf.Me @.
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Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy, sci.physics, alt.checkmate
Subject "Time and space and gravitation have no separate existence from matter."
Organization blocknews - www.blocknews.net
Date 2018-12-22 19:54 -0800

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Michael replied:
> > "God" ( nature, 4 dimensional SpaceTime ) is static, immutable, 
> > changeless and timeless, both everything and nothing.
> > Randomness is ignorance ( nothing more, nothing less ).
> 
> Static/changeless with respect to what ?  What is this additional dimension
> in which "spacetime" is static ?  What is the manifestation of this new
> fifth dimension in our universe ?

No fifth dimension, sorry.

Einstein wrote:

  Time and space and gravitation have no separate existence from matter.

  [SpaceTime] may not be thought of as endowed with
  the quality characteristic of ponderable media,
  as consisting of parts which may be tracked through time.

  The idea of motion may not be applied to it.

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