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Re: The substantiation that -highhorse asked for

From	owl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject	Re: The substantiation that -highhorse asked for
Date	2018-08-28 21:43 +0000
Organization	O.W.L.
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Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 28, 2018 at 3:17:02 PM UTC-6, owl wrote:
>> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Tuesday, August 28, 2018 at 2:09:26 PM UTC-6, owl wrote:
>> >> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > On Tuesday, August 28, 2018 at 1:14:23 PM UTC-6, owl wrote:
>> >> >> DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>> >> >> > On 8/28/2018 1:21 PM, owl wrote:
>> >> >> >> DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>> >> >> > 
>> >> >> >>> https://imgur.com/a/JWTIK
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> Linux makes you stupid.
>> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> Those aren't nested if statements.  They are all at the same level.
>> >> >> > 
>> >> >> > 
>> >> >> > I know.  I didn't say they were nested - I said Feeb tried to remember 
>> >> >> > how many levels there were in his junky code.  It's no less crappy just 
>> >> >> > because it's one level.
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> If you're dealing with a bunch of ranges, a long if-else sequence
>> >> >> might be the only way.
>> >> > 
>> >> > Unless I'm not understanding what you mean by 'ranges', I'd tend to 
>> >> > think that's a situation that'd lend itself to doing it dynamically. My 
>> >> > iterated example above had edges cases, that I would think a range 
>> >> > example wouldn't be bothered with.
>> >> 
>> >> anon@lowtide:~/code/ifs$ ./blah -7
>> >> a<0
>> >> anon@lowtide:~/code/ifs$ ./blah 0
>> >> a==0
>> >> anon@lowtide:~/code/ifs$ ./blah 7
>> >> a>0 && a<=10
>> >> anon@lowtide:~/code/ifs$ ./blah 11
>> >> a>10 && a<=100
>> >> anon@lowtide:~/code/ifs$ ./blah 13
>> >> a>10 && a<=100
>> >> anon@lowtide:~/code/ifs$ ./blah 14
>> >> fourteen is special!  You get a prize!
>> >> anon@lowtide:~/code/ifs$ ./blah 15
>> >> a>10 && a<=100
>> >> anon@lowtide:~/code/ifs$ ./blah 70
>> >> a>10 && a<=100
>> >> anon@lowtide:~/code/ifs$ ./blah 700
>> >> a>100 && a<=1000
>> >> anon@lowtide:~/code/ifs$ ./blah 7000
>> >> a>1000 && a<=10000
>> >> anon@lowtide:~/code/ifs$ ./blah 70000
>> >> a>10000 && a<=100000
>> >> anon@lowtide:~/code/ifs$ ./blah 700000
>> >> a>100000 && a<=1000000
>> >> anon@lowtide:~/code/ifs$ ./blah 7000000
>> >> a>1000000
>> >> anon@lowtide:~/code/ifs$
>> > 
>> > For stuff like that you're not really saving a lot but there is repetition.
>> > Looks to me like, outside of the first two, it's the same thing, no?
>> 
>> What do you mean "it's the same thing"? 
> 
> Seems to be a lot of:
> 
> ifs$ ./blah xxx 
> a > yyy && a <= zzz
> 

Yes.  As described above.  You said that is a situation that would
lend itself to doing it dynamically.  Explain how you would do it 
without running the tests.

>> As described, it tests for ranges.
>> Here it just prints the tested range, but it could do whatever.  The point
>> is, practically any code you write that tested for those ranges would end
>> up being similar.  The tests would have to be done.
>> 
>> > And 
>> > what's  so "special" about 14?  
>> 
>> It's an "edge case."
> 
> Why? 

It just is.  It doesn't matter why.  You said range tests would not
bother with edge cases.  I let one of the range tests bother with one.

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Re: The substantiation that -highhorse asked for DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-08-28 08:28 -0400
  Re: The substantiation that -highhorse asked for Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-08-28 09:20 -0700
    Re: The substantiation that -highhorse asked for fr314159@gmail.com - 2018-08-28 11:27 -0700
      Re: The substantiation that -highhorse asked for Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-08-28 11:39 -0700
      Re: The substantiation that -highhorse asked for DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-08-29 09:46 -0400
    Re: The substantiation that -highhorse asked for DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-08-28 14:52 -0400
      Re: The substantiation that -highhorse asked for Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-08-28 12:20 -0700
  Re: The substantiation that -highhorse asked for owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-08-28 17:21 +0000
    Re: The substantiation that -highhorse asked for DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-08-28 14:46 -0400
      Re: The substantiation that -highhorse asked for owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-08-28 19:14 +0000
        Re: The substantiation that -highhorse asked for Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-08-28 12:30 -0700
          Re: The substantiation that -highhorse asked for owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-08-28 20:09 +0000
            Re: The substantiation that -highhorse asked for Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-08-28 13:58 -0700
              Re: The substantiation that -highhorse asked for owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-08-28 21:16 +0000
                Re: The substantiation that -highhorse asked for Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-08-28 14:31 -0700
                Re: The substantiation that -highhorse asked for owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-08-28 21:43 +0000
                Re: The substantiation that -highhorse asked for Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-08-28 15:06 -0700
                Re: The substantiation that -highhorse asked for owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-08-28 22:26 +0000
                Re: The substantiation that -highhorse asked for Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-08-28 15:35 -0700
                Re: The substantiation that -highhorse asked for owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-08-28 23:14 +0000
                Re: The substantiation that -highhorse asked for Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-08-28 14:57 -0700
            Re: The substantiation that -highhorse asked for DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-08-28 23:11 -0400
              Re: The substantiation that -highhorse asked for owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-08-29 06:14 +0000
                Re: The substantiation that -highhorse asked for DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-08-29 09:34 -0400
                Re: The substantiation that -highhorse asked for owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-08-29 14:31 +0000
                Re: The substantiation that -highhorse asked for Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-08-29 11:01 -0700
                Re: The substantiation that -highhorse asked for owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-08-31 12:33 +0000
                Re: The substantiation that -highhorse asked for Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-08-31 09:16 -0700
                Re: The substantiation that -highhorse asked for owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-08-31 16:53 +0000
                Re: The substantiation that -highhorse asked for Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-08-31 10:22 -0700
                Re: The substantiation that -highhorse asked for owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-08-31 17:53 +0000
                Re: The substantiation that -highhorse asked for Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-08-31 11:36 -0700
                Re: The substantiation that -highhorse asked for owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-09-01 13:45 +0000
                Re: The substantiation that -highhorse asked for owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-09-01 13:59 +0000
                Re: The substantiation that -highhorse asked for Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 08:15 -0700
                Re: The substantiation that -highhorse asked for owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-09-01 16:00 +0000
                Re: The substantiation that -highhorse asked for Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 11:20 -0700
                Re: The substantiation that -highhorse asked for DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-08-31 15:00 -0400
                Re: The substantiation that -highhorse asked for owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-08-31 19:40 +0000
                Re: The substantiation that -highhorse asked for DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-01 10:15 -0400
                Re: The substantiation that -highhorse asked for Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 08:22 -0700
                Re: The substantiation that -highhorse asked for owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-09-01 16:28 +0000
                Re: The substantiation that -highhorse asked for DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-01 16:39 -0400
                Re: The substantiation that -highhorse asked for owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-09-01 22:00 +0000
                Re: The substantiation that -highhorse asked for DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-01 18:27 -0400
                Re: The substantiation that -highhorse asked for owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-09-01 22:40 +0000
                Re: The substantiation that -highhorse asked for DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-01 19:09 -0400
                Re: The substantiation that -highhorse asked for owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-09-01 23:59 +0000
        Re: The substantiation that -highhorse asked for DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-08-28 23:01 -0400
          Re: The substantiation that -highhorse asked for owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-08-29 06:26 +0000
  Re: The substantiation that -highhorse asked for "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-08-28 19:25 +0000
    Re: The substantiation that -highhorse asked for DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-08-29 09:32 -0400
      Re: The substantiation that -highhorse asked for fr314159@gmail.com - 2018-08-29 06:46 -0700
        Re: The substantiation that -highhorse asked for DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-08-29 09:55 -0400
          Re: The substantiation that -highhorse asked for fr314159@gmail.com - 2018-08-29 08:02 -0700
            Re: The substantiation that -highhorse asked for DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-01 10:14 -0400
          Re: The substantiation that -highhorse asked for owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-08-29 15:12 +0000

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