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Re: Programming? It No Longer Exists.

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F. Russell <fr@random.info> wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Apr 2018 10:00:24 -0700, Steve Carroll wrote:
> 
>> 
>> the guy that wrote vi is one of those Silicon Valley flunkies.
>>
> 
> VI belongs in SV.  Whoever heard of "modes" in a text editor?
> Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!  A real text editor has only one mode,
> and that is the EDIT mode.
> 
> But that would be a bit too logical for those dupes in SV.
> After all, frameworks do not require logic but only copy/paste.
> 
> 

The awesomeness of vim:

I wrote a script that prints the body of a usenet message when fed a
message-id.  Since vim is my editor, I can, when replying in insert
mode, do something like this:

<ESC>
:.!~/usenet/messageid '<9ea921d5-c766-4797-b1d4-31d5e3a30342@googlegroups.com>'|qprint -d

and pull that message body right into my reply (below).
(qprint pipe because it's a googlegroups message)

<ESC>
takes me to command mode.
:.!whatever
runs command "whatever" and puts its output on the current line ('.').

The messageid output:
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On Sunday, April 29, 2018 at 10:49:55 AM UTC-6, owl wrote:
> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Sunday, April 29, 2018 at 7:56:14 AM UTC-6, F. Russell wrote:
> >> Treat yourself to this excerpt from the link given below:
> >> 
> >> "I was struck by how many developers were, like myself,
> >> not really programmers, but rather this, that and the other. A great number
> >> of tech ninjas were not exactly black belts when it came to the actual
> >> onerous work of computer programming. So many of the complex, discrete tasks
> >> involved in the creation of a website or an app had been automated that it
> >> was no longer necessary to possess knowledge of software mechanics.
> >> The coder’s work was rarely a craft. The apps ran on an assembly line,
> >> built with “open-source”, off-the-shelf components. The most important
> >> computer commands for the ninja to master were copy and paste."
> >> 
> >> https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/apr/17/get-rich-quick-silicon-valley-startup-billionaire-techie
> >> 
> >> Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!  So even in the heart of Silicon Valley the
> >> idea of "programming" is just a ruse.  All "development" is now automated
> >> to the point where the greatest necessary skill becomes cutting and
> >> pasting.
> >> 
> >> The highest paid "programmer" in all of Silicon Valley would likely
> >> flunk out of Comp Sci 101.
> > 
> > <https://imgur.com/a/EX9sOfN>
> > 
> > Must sting... for you ;)
> > 
> > Why don't you brush up your cutting and pasting skills so you can earn
> > what these 'flunkies' do?
> 
> Can you do that with the 16-bit version of cooledit that he's wedded to?

He can't, he has the version that crashes when it loads a .js file As you may 
be aware, the guy that wrote vi is one of those Silicon Valley flunkies.
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Programming?  It No Longer Exists. "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-04-29 13:55 +0000
  Re: Programming?  It No Longer Exists. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-29 09:17 -0700
    Re: Programming?  It No Longer Exists. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-29 16:49 +0000
      Re: Programming?  It No Longer Exists. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-29 10:00 -0700
        Re: Programming?  It No Longer Exists. "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-04-30 10:42 +0000
          Re: Programming?  It No Longer Exists. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-30 16:12 +0000
            Re: Programming?  It No Longer Exists. Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-30 09:28 -0700
            Re: Programming?  It No Longer Exists. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-30 09:56 -0700
          Re: Programming?  It No Longer Exists. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-30 09:44 -0700
    Re: Programming?  It No Longer Exists. Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-29 09:54 -0700
    Re: Programming?  It No Longer Exists. "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-04-29 17:37 +0000
      Re: Programming?  It No Longer Exists. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-29 10:42 -0700
        Re: Programming?  It No Longer Exists. Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-29 15:54 -0700
        Re: Programming?  It No Longer Exists. "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-04-30 10:37 +0000
          Re: Programming?  It No Longer Exists. Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-30 03:45 -0700

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