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Apple Notes slow

Started byChris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
First post2025-08-01 15:56 +0000
Last post2025-08-05 16:56 +0000
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  Apple Notes slow Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-01 15:56 +0000
    Re: Apple Notes slow "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-08-01 17:29 +0100
      Re: Apple Notes slow Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-08-02 11:01 +1200
        Re: Apple Notes slow Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-03 17:05 +0000
          Re: Apple Notes slow "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-08-04 16:37 +0100
            Re: Apple Notes slow Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-08-05 09:03 +1200
              Re: Apple Notes slow Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-05 16:56 +0000
                Re: Apple Notes slow Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-08 18:29 +0100
                  Re: Apple Notes slow Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> - 2025-08-09 10:23 +0000
                    Re: Apple Notes slow Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-09 12:47 +0000
                      Re: Apple Notes slow Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> - 2025-08-09 13:04 +0000
                        Re: Apple Notes slow Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-11 15:30 +0100
          Re: Apple Notes slow Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> - 2025-08-04 17:18 +0000
            Re: Apple Notes slow "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-08-04 18:37 +0100
            Re: Apple Notes slow Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-08-05 16:56 +0000

#77207 — Apple Notes slow

FromChris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
Date2025-08-01 15:56 +0000
SubjectApple Notes slow
Message-ID<106io3u$gh8i$1@dont-email.me>

Sorry for cross-posting to UCSM, but there's lots of expertise there that
may not be in the ipad ng. 

I've over 1600 mostly hand written notes saved to my ipad (9th gen) and
sync'd with icloud. The ipad is being quite unresponsive with selecting and
opening any new notes. Like 4-5 second lag. Once open it's fine. 

In all other respects the ipad is great. 

Is this an icloud, ipad, internet or other issue? Does anyone else have
this many or more notes on their ipad?

On my Mac (M2 MBP), I've no issues in terms of performance, but can't do as
much with the notes as I can on the ipad. 

The ipad has done me well over the last three years so am open to getting a
newer one if it's a hardware issue as I use it daily. 

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#77208

From"David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk>
Date2025-08-01 17:29 +0100
Message-ID<mf48anFq98bU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#77207
On 01/08/2025 16:56, Chris wrote:
> 
> 
> Sorry for cross-posting to UCSM, but there's lots of expertise there that
> may not be in the ipad ng.
> 
> I've over 1600 mostly hand written notes saved to my ipad (9th gen) and
> sync'd with icloud. The ipad is being quite unresponsive with selecting and
> opening any new notes. Like 4-5 second lag. Once open it's fine.
> 
> In all other respects the ipad is great.
> 
> Is this an icloud, ipad, internet or other issue? Does anyone else have
> this many or more notes on their ipad?
> 
> On my Mac (M2 MBP), I've no issues in terms of performance, but can't do as
> much with the notes as I can on the ipad.
> 
> The ipad has done me well over the last three years so am open to getting a
> newer one if it's a hardware issue as I use it daily.

Have you carried out this simple procedure?

https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/ipad/ipad63d30b5a/14.0/ipados/14.0#iPad715e3eec

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#77209

FromYour Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Date2025-08-02 11:01 +1200
Message-ID<106jgvr$msp8$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#77208
On 01/08/2025 16:56, Chris wrote:
> 
> Sorry for cross-posting to UCSM, but there's lots of expertise there that
> may not be in the ipad ng.
> 
> I've over 1600 mostly hand written notes saved to my ipad (9th gen) and
> sync'd with icloud. The ipad is being quite unresponsive with selecting and
> opening any new notes. Like 4-5 second lag. Once open it's fine.
> 
> In all other respects the ipad is great.
> 
> Is this an icloud, ipad, internet or other issue? Does anyone else have
> this many or more notes on their ipad?
> 
> On my Mac (M2 MBP), I've no issues in terms of performance, but can't do as
> much with the notes as I can on the ipad.
> 
> The ipad has done me well over the last three years so am open to getting a
> newer one if it's a hardware issue as I use it daily.

Sounds like it is possibly the notes are not actually stored on the 
iPad, so have to be re-downloaded from the iCloud servers before 
opening each time.

Try this to see if it helps:
<https://www.idownloadblog.com/2024/08/07/how-to-keep-icloud-drive-files-always-downloaded/> 


I'm not sure how that function works. It may take a while to 
re-download all the Notes files in one go OR it may not help the first 
time you access a particular Notes file since it will have to 
re-download it, but after that it should be stored on the iPad itself 
(as well as synced to the iCloud server).

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#77210

FromChris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
Date2025-08-03 17:05 +0000
Message-ID<106o4tc$1ncj6$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#77209
Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> On 01/08/2025 16:56, Chris wrote:
>> 
>> Sorry for cross-posting to UCSM, but there's lots of expertise there that
>> may not be in the ipad ng.
>> 
>> I've over 1600 mostly hand written notes saved to my ipad (9th gen) and
>> sync'd with icloud. The ipad is being quite unresponsive with selecting and
>> opening any new notes. Like 4-5 second lag. Once open it's fine.
>> 
>> In all other respects the ipad is great.
>> 
>> Is this an icloud, ipad, internet or other issue? Does anyone else have
>> this many or more notes on their ipad?
>> 
>> On my Mac (M2 MBP), I've no issues in terms of performance, but can't do as
>> much with the notes as I can on the ipad.
>> 
>> The ipad has done me well over the last three years so am open to getting a
>> newer one if it's a hardware issue as I use it daily.
> 
> Sounds like it is possibly the notes are not actually stored on the 
> iPad, so have to be re-downloaded from the iCloud servers before 
> opening each time.

That's a good thought. Turning off wifi makes no difference. The notes are
still all there, but the lag is still the same. 

So not a download lag. 

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#77211

From"David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk>
Date2025-08-04 16:37 +0100
Message-ID<mfc2doF5psiU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#77210
On 03/08/2025 18:05, Chris wrote:
> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>> On 01/08/2025 16:56, Chris wrote:
>>>
>>> Sorry for cross-posting to UCSM, but there's lots of expertise there that
>>> may not be in the ipad ng.
>>>
>>> I've over 1600 mostly hand written notes saved to my ipad (9th gen) and
>>> sync'd with icloud. The ipad is being quite unresponsive with selecting and
>>> opening any new notes. Like 4-5 second lag. Once open it's fine.
>>>
>>> In all other respects the ipad is great.
>>>
>>> Is this an icloud, ipad, internet or other issue? Does anyone else have
>>> this many or more notes on their ipad?
>>>
>>> On my Mac (M2 MBP), I've no issues in terms of performance, but can't do as
>>> much with the notes as I can on the ipad.
>>>
>>> The ipad has done me well over the last three years so am open to getting a
>>> newer one if it's a hardware issue as I use it daily.
>>
>> Sounds like it is possibly the notes are not actually stored on the
>> iPad, so have to be re-downloaded from the iCloud servers before
>> opening each time.
> 
> That's a good thought. Turning off wifi makes no difference. The notes are
> still all there, but the lag is still the same.
> 
> So not a download lag.

If you visit your 'Notes' by accessing them via wwww.icloud.com do your
notes open more quickly than when you use your Notes App?

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#77214

FromYour Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Date2025-08-05 09:03 +1200
Message-ID<106r77c$2d1it$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#77211
On 03/08/2025 18:05, Chris wrote:
> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>> On 01/08/2025 16:56, Chris wrote:
>>> 
>>> Sorry for cross-posting to UCSM, but there's lots of expertise there that
>>> may not be in the ipad ng.
>>> 
>>> I've over 1600 mostly hand written notes saved to my ipad (9th gen) and
>>> sync'd with icloud. The ipad is being quite unresponsive with selecting 
>>> and opening any new notes. Like 4-5 second lag. Once open it's fine.
>>> 
>>> In all other respects the ipad is great.
>>> 
>>> Is this an icloud, ipad, internet or other issue? Does anyone else have
>>> this many or more notes on their ipad?
>>> 
>>> On my Mac (M2 MBP), I've no issues in terms of performance, but can't 
>>> do as much with the notes as I can on the ipad.
>>> 
>>> The ipad has done me well over the last three years so am open to 
>>> getting a newer one if it's a hardware issue as I use it daily.
>> 
>> Sounds like it is possibly the notes are not actually stored on the
>> iPad, so have to be re-downloaded from the iCloud servers before
>> opening each time.
> 
> That's a good thought. Turning off wifi makes no difference. The notes are
> still all there, but the lag is still the same.
> 
> So not a download lag.

Another possibility is simply too many or too many complex notes Files. 
Some people have reported that organising their Notes files into 
sub-folders helps with various speed (and crashing) issues in Notes. 
For example:
<https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/notes-app-has-keyboard-lag-but-no-other-apps-do.2388016/> 


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#77216

FromChris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
Date2025-08-05 16:56 +0000
Message-ID<106td3v$2sjko$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#77214
Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> On 03/08/2025 18:05, Chris wrote:
>> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>>> On 01/08/2025 16:56, Chris wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Sorry for cross-posting to UCSM, but there's lots of expertise there that
>>>> may not be in the ipad ng.
>>>> 
>>>> I've over 1600 mostly hand written notes saved to my ipad (9th gen) and
>>>> sync'd with icloud. The ipad is being quite unresponsive with selecting 
>>>> and opening any new notes. Like 4-5 second lag. Once open it's fine.
>>>> 
>>>> In all other respects the ipad is great.
>>>> 
>>>> Is this an icloud, ipad, internet or other issue? Does anyone else have
>>>> this many or more notes on their ipad?
>>>> 
>>>> On my Mac (M2 MBP), I've no issues in terms of performance, but can't 
>>>> do as much with the notes as I can on the ipad.
>>>> 
>>>> The ipad has done me well over the last three years so am open to 
>>>> getting a newer one if it's a hardware issue as I use it daily.
>>> 
>>> Sounds like it is possibly the notes are not actually stored on the
>>> iPad, so have to be re-downloaded from the iCloud servers before
>>> opening each time.
>> 
>> That's a good thought. Turning off wifi makes no difference. The notes are
>> still all there, but the lag is still the same.
>> 
>> So not a download lag.
> 
> Another possibility is simply too many or too many complex notes Files. 
> Some people have reported that organising their Notes files into 
> sub-folders helps with various speed (and crashing) issues in Notes. 
> For example:
> <https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/notes-app-has-keyboard-lag-but-no-other-apps-do.2388016/>
> 

That's a good find. I'll try that. 

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#77233

FromChris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
Date2025-08-08 18:29 +0100
Message-ID<1075c5m$rdur$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#77216
On 05/08/2025 17:56, Chris wrote:
> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>> On 03/08/2025 18:05, Chris wrote:
>>> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>>>> On 01/08/2025 16:56, Chris wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry for cross-posting to UCSM, but there's lots of expertise there that
>>>>> may not be in the ipad ng.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've over 1600 mostly hand written notes saved to my ipad (9th gen) and
>>>>> sync'd with icloud. The ipad is being quite unresponsive with selecting
>>>>> and opening any new notes. Like 4-5 second lag. Once open it's fine.
>>>>>
>>>>> In all other respects the ipad is great.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is this an icloud, ipad, internet or other issue? Does anyone else have
>>>>> this many or more notes on their ipad?
>>>>>
>>>>> On my Mac (M2 MBP), I've no issues in terms of performance, but can't
>>>>> do as much with the notes as I can on the ipad.
>>>>>
>>>>> The ipad has done me well over the last three years so am open to
>>>>> getting a newer one if it's a hardware issue as I use it daily.
>>>>
>>>> Sounds like it is possibly the notes are not actually stored on the
>>>> iPad, so have to be re-downloaded from the iCloud servers before
>>>> opening each time.
>>>
>>> That's a good thought. Turning off wifi makes no difference. The notes are
>>> still all there, but the lag is still the same.
>>>
>>> So not a download lag.
>>
>> Another possibility is simply too many or too many complex notes Files.
>> Some people have reported that organising their Notes files into
>> sub-folders helps with various speed (and crashing) issues in Notes.
>> For example:
>> <https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/notes-app-has-keyboard-lag-but-no-other-apps-do.2388016/>
>>
> 
> That's a good find. I'll try that.

OK. I've archived all my historical notes by year back to 2021.

No difference unfortunately.

I wonder if the fact that I use tags extensively is not helping. They 
are super useful and would really miss them if I can't use them.

Is there an alternative Notes app I can try that allows tagging notes to 
multiple topics?

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#77236

FromAlan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid>
Date2025-08-09 10:23 +0000
Message-ID<10777id$18779$1@notronniebarker.dont-email.me>
In reply to#77233
Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
> Is there an alternative Notes app I can try that allows tagging notes to 
> multiple topics?

Mrs B uses Evernote which seems to support tags but I’ve not checked that
out personally.

<https://help.evernote.com/hc/en-us/articles/39651699994003-Tags-overview>

-- 
Cheers, Alan

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#77237

FromChris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
Date2025-08-09 12:47 +0000
Message-ID<1077g1o$1a5ld$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#77236
Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
> Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Is there an alternative Notes app I can try that allows tagging notes to 
>> multiple topics?
> 
> Mrs B uses Evernote which seems to support tags but I’ve not checked that
> out personally.
> 
> <https://help.evernote.com/hc/en-us/articles/39651699994003-Tags-overview>
> 

Does it do handwriting? 

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#77238

FromAlan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid>
Date2025-08-09 13:04 +0000
Message-ID<1077h14$1abqa$1@notronniebarker.dont-email.me>
In reply to#77237
On 2025-08-09, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
> Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>> Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Is there an alternative Notes app I can try that allows tagging notes to 
>>> multiple topics?
>> 
>> Mrs B uses Evernote which seems to support tags but I’ve not checked that
>> out personally.
>> 
>> <https://help.evernote.com/hc/en-us/articles/39651699994003-Tags-overview>
>> 
>
> Does it do handwriting? 

Short answer: dunno.

But we found this on the user forum:

<https://discussion.evernote.com/forums/topic/141176-ipad-and-writing-notes-by-hand/>

-- 
Cheers, Alan

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#77239

FromChris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
Date2025-08-11 15:30 +0100
Message-ID<107cuph$2kk88$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#77238
On 09/08/2025 14:04, Alan B wrote:
> On 2025-08-09, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>>> Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Is there an alternative Notes app I can try that allows tagging notes to
>>>> multiple topics?
>>>
>>> Mrs B uses Evernote which seems to support tags but I’ve not checked that
>>> out personally.
>>>
>>> <https://help.evernote.com/hc/en-us/articles/39651699994003-Tags-overview>
>>>
>>
>> Does it do handwriting?
> 
> Short answer: dunno.
> 
> But we found this on the user forum:
> 
> <https://discussion.evernote.com/forums/topic/141176-ipad-and-writing-notes-by-hand/>

Unfortunately the minimum cost is £79.99 pa. Too steep for me.

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#77212

FromJaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org>
Date2025-08-04 17:18 +0000
Message-ID<mfc8boF7931U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#77210
On 3 Aug 2025 at 18:05:48 BST, "Chris" <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:

> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>> On 01/08/2025 16:56, Chris wrote:
>>> 
>>> Sorry for cross-posting to UCSM, but there's lots of expertise there that
>>> may not be in the ipad ng.
>>> 
>>> I've over 1600 mostly hand written notes saved to my ipad (9th gen) and
>>> sync'd with icloud. The ipad is being quite unresponsive with selecting and
>>> opening any new notes. Like 4-5 second lag. Once open it's fine.
>>> 
>>> In all other respects the ipad is great.
>>> 
>>> Is this an icloud, ipad, internet or other issue? Does anyone else have
>>> this many or more notes on their ipad?
>>> 
>>> On my Mac (M2 MBP), I've no issues in terms of performance, but can't do as
>>> much with the notes as I can on the ipad.
>>> 
>>> The ipad has done me well over the last three years so am open to getting a
>>> newer one if it's a hardware issue as I use it daily.
>> 
>> Sounds like it is possibly the notes are not actually stored on the
>> iPad, so have to be re-downloaded from the iCloud servers before
>> opening each time.
> 
> That's a good thought. Turning off wifi makes no difference. The notes are
> still all there, but the lag is still the same.
> 
> So not a download lag.

Tried a reboot? It's not often that it helps, but...

    Cheers - Jaimie
-- 
boy, n.
1. Noise with dirt on it.

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#77213

From"David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk>
Date2025-08-04 18:37 +0100
Message-ID<mfc9f7F7cosU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#77212
On 04/08/2025 18:18, Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote:
> On 3 Aug 2025 at 18:05:48 BST, "Chris" <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>>> On 01/08/2025 16:56, Chris wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Sorry for cross-posting to UCSM, but there's lots of expertise there that
>>>> may not be in the ipad ng.
>>>>
>>>> I've over 1600 mostly hand written notes saved to my ipad (9th gen) and
>>>> sync'd with icloud. The ipad is being quite unresponsive with selecting and
>>>> opening any new notes. Like 4-5 second lag. Once open it's fine.
>>>>
>>>> In all other respects the ipad is great.
>>>>
>>>> Is this an icloud, ipad, internet or other issue? Does anyone else have
>>>> this many or more notes on their ipad?
>>>>
>>>> On my Mac (M2 MBP), I've no issues in terms of performance, but can't do as
>>>> much with the notes as I can on the ipad.
>>>>
>>>> The ipad has done me well over the last three years so am open to getting a
>>>> newer one if it's a hardware issue as I use it daily.
>>>
>>> Sounds like it is possibly the notes are not actually stored on the
>>> iPad, so have to be re-downloaded from the iCloud servers before
>>> opening each time.
>>
>> That's a good thought. Turning off wifi makes no difference. The notes are
>> still all there, but the lag is still the same.
>>
>> So not a download lag.
> 
> Tried a reboot? It's not often that it helps, but...

See Message-ID: <mf48anFq98bU1@mid.individual.net> on 1 August!

https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/ipad/ipad63d30b5a/14.0/ipados/14.0#iPad715e3eec

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#77215

FromChris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
Date2025-08-05 16:56 +0000
Message-ID<106td3t$2sjko$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#77212
Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:
> On 3 Aug 2025 at 18:05:48 BST, "Chris" <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>>> On 01/08/2025 16:56, Chris wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Sorry for cross-posting to UCSM, but there's lots of expertise there that
>>>> may not be in the ipad ng.
>>>> 
>>>> I've over 1600 mostly hand written notes saved to my ipad (9th gen) and
>>>> sync'd with icloud. The ipad is being quite unresponsive with selecting and
>>>> opening any new notes. Like 4-5 second lag. Once open it's fine.
>>>> 
>>>> In all other respects the ipad is great.
>>>> 
>>>> Is this an icloud, ipad, internet or other issue? Does anyone else have
>>>> this many or more notes on their ipad?
>>>> 
>>>> On my Mac (M2 MBP), I've no issues in terms of performance, but can't do as
>>>> much with the notes as I can on the ipad.
>>>> 
>>>> The ipad has done me well over the last three years so am open to getting a
>>>> newer one if it's a hardware issue as I use it daily.
>>> 
>>> Sounds like it is possibly the notes are not actually stored on the
>>> iPad, so have to be re-downloaded from the iCloud servers before
>>> opening each time.
>> 
>> That's a good thought. Turning off wifi makes no difference. The notes are
>> still all there, but the lag is still the same.
>> 
>> So not a download lag.
> 
> Tried a reboot? It's not often that it helps, but...
> 

Sadly, no difference. 


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