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  does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-18 11:22 +0000
    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera John Young <jy@scallawags.net> - 2012-08-18 07:36 -0400
    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2012-08-18 12:49 +0100
      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> - 2012-08-18 09:04 -0600
        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2012-08-18 16:24 +0100
      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-19 12:06 +0000
        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-19 06:42 -0700
          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 04:44 +0000
            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-21 06:38 +0000
            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-21 08:04 -0700
              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-21 08:30 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-21 09:36 -0700
                  Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 09:39 -0700
                    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-21 10:14 -0700
                    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2012-08-21 15:05 -0700
                      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-21 15:21 -0700
                        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2012-08-21 16:04 -0700
                          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 16:13 -0700
                            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-21 19:10 -0700
                              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 19:29 -0700
                                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2012-08-21 20:43 -0700
                                  Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-21 21:07 -0700
                                    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2012-08-22 02:14 -0700
                                  Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 23:31 -0700
                                    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2012-08-22 02:14 -0700
                      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 15:24 -0700
                        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2012-08-21 15:51 -0700
                          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 16:08 -0700
                    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-21 18:06 -0700
                      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera John Young <jy@scallawags.net> - 2012-08-21 21:48 -0400
                        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 19:29 -0700
                        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-21 20:33 -0700
                        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-21 22:10 -0700
                          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-21 22:23 -0700
                            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 23:31 -0700
                              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-21 23:55 -0700
                      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 19:29 -0700
                        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-21 19:40 -0700
                        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-21 22:09 -0700
                          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 23:31 -0700
                    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-22 01:38 +0000
                      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 19:29 -0700
                        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-22 15:14 +0000
                  Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-21 18:01 -0700
                    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-21 19:03 -0700
                      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-21 22:17 -0700
                        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-22 00:37 -0700
                          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-22 00:55 -0700
                            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-22 10:59 -0700
                              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Tom Stiller <tom_stiller@yahoo.com> - 2012-08-22 14:28 -0400
                              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2012-08-22 15:03 -0400
                                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-22 15:39 -0700
                              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-22 12:46 -0700
                                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-22 15:37 -0700
                                  Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-22 15:58 -0700
                                    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2012-08-22 16:10 -0700
                                      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-22 20:03 -0500
                                      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-22 20:20 -0700
                                        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2012-08-23 09:06 -0700
                                          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-23 12:32 -0700
                                            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2012-08-23 12:54 -0700
                                              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-23 14:33 -0700
                                                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2012-08-23 15:20 -0700
                                            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-23 16:11 -0700
                                              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-23 20:53 -0500
                                                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-23 21:05 -0700
                                    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-22 20:01 -0500
                                      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVEsPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-22 20:44 -0700
                                    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera salgud <spamboy6547@comcast.net> - 2012-08-23 08:12 -0600
                        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-24 17:10 -0400
                          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2012-08-24 14:20 -0700
                          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2012-08-25 08:03 +1000
                            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-25 09:21 -0400
                              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-25 09:42 -0700
                                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-25 13:01 -0400
                              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2012-08-26 08:22 +1000
                                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-26 11:41 -0400
                                  Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2012-08-27 07:38 +1000
                                    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-26 17:48 -0400
                                      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2012-08-27 11:19 +1000
                                        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-27 17:13 -0400
                                          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2012-08-28 08:05 +1000
                                            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-27 18:44 -0400
                                              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2012-08-28 11:27 +1000
                                            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-27 20:31 -0500
                          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-24 21:41 -0700
                            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2012-08-24 22:29 -0700
                            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-25 09:22 -0400
                              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-25 09:38 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-22 01:38 +0000
                  Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-21 22:23 -0700
                    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-22 15:14 +0000
                      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-22 08:24 -0700
                      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-22 11:03 -0700
        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-19 23:55 +0000
          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 05:31 +0000
    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2012-08-18 09:45 -0400
      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-19 12:06 +0000
        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-19 08:31 -0700
    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-18 07:19 -0700
      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera "zulu" <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> - 2012-08-18 16:41 +0100
        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-18 13:32 -0500
          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera "zulu" <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> - 2012-08-18 19:45 +0100
            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-18 12:07 -0700
            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2012-08-18 19:54 -0400
            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-18 17:07 -0700
              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2012-08-18 21:54 -0400
              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera "zulu" <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> - 2012-08-19 08:16 +0100
              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-19 12:06 +0000
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-19 08:31 -0700
                  Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 04:44 +0000
            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-18 19:29 -0500
          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2012-08-18 19:51 -0400
            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera "zulu" <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> - 2012-08-19 08:11 +0100
              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2012-08-19 20:33 -0400
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera "zulu" <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> - 2012-08-20 08:40 +0100
                  Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2012-08-20 11:29 -0400
                    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Todd Allcock <elecconec@AnoOspamL.com> - 2012-08-20 09:43 -0600
                    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-20 08:55 -0700
                    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera "zulu" <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> - 2012-08-20 16:57 +0100
        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-19 12:06 +0000
          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera "zulu" <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> - 2012-08-19 15:26 +0100
          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-19 08:31 -0700
            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 04:44 +0000
              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-20 23:41 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 13:50 +0000
                  Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 09:37 -0700
          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-19 11:45 -0400
            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 04:52 +0000
              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-20 23:41 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 13:50 +0000
          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-19 10:53 -0500
          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-19 23:49 +0000
            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-19 17:40 -0700
              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-20 06:42 +0000
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-20 17:14 -0400
                  Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-20 23:04 +0000
            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 05:32 +0000
    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera sbt <dogbreath@chaseabone.com.invalid> - 2012-08-18 07:30 -0700
    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-18 10:19 -0500
      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2012-08-18 09:54 -0700
    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-18 11:41 -0400
      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-19 12:06 +0000
        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-19 11:22 -0400
    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera "Douglas C. Neidermeyer" <sgt@arms.omega.faber.edu> - 2012-08-18 12:12 -0400
      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera claudel@sonic.net (Claude V. Lucas) - 2012-08-18 16:16 +0000
        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2012-08-18 22:01 -0400
        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-19 04:37 +0000
    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Gerry <once@around-the-block.org> - 2012-08-18 10:03 -0700
      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2012-08-18 19:42 -0400
      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2012-08-18 22:04 -0400
      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera "Douglas C. Neidermeyer" <sgt@arms.omega.faber.edu> - 2012-08-19 15:44 -0400
        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-19 15:53 -0400
          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera "Douglas C. Neidermeyer" <sgt@arms.omega.faber.edu> - 2012-08-19 19:34 -0400
          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 05:32 +0000
    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera "Charles" <charlesschuler@comcast.net> - 2012-08-18 18:07 -0400
    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-19 04:33 +0000
      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> - 2012-08-19 00:55 -0600
        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-19 12:06 +0000
        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-19 08:31 -0700
          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 04:44 +0000
        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-19 23:31 +0000
          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-19 17:40 -0700
            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-20 06:23 +0000
              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera "Douglas C. Neidermeyer" <sgt@arms.omega.faber.edu> - 2012-08-20 08:38 -0400
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera MrTallyman <MrTallyman@BananaCountersRUs.org> - 2012-08-20 06:29 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-20 07:32 -0700
                  Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-20 08:55 -0700
                    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-20 09:21 -0700
                      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-20 10:19 -0700
                        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-20 11:52 -0700
                    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> - 2012-08-20 12:03 -0600
                  Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera "Douglas C. Neidermeyer" <sgt@arms.omega.faber.edu> - 2012-08-20 12:27 -0400
                    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-20 10:13 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> - 2012-08-20 09:24 -0600
                  Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-20 19:25 +0000
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-20 19:20 +0000
              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-20 08:55 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-20 09:31 -0700
                  Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-20 10:19 -0700
                    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-20 12:02 -0700
                      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-20 12:23 -0700
                        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-20 13:25 -0700
                          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-20 15:12 -0700
                            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-20 18:23 -0500
                              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-20 19:24 -0700
                              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-20 21:47 -0700
                            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-20 21:42 -0700
                              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-20 23:41 -0700
                                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 13:50 +0000
                                  Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 09:37 -0700
                                    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-22 01:38 +0000
                                      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 19:29 -0700
                                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-21 07:23 -0700
                                  Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 09:37 -0700
                                    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-22 01:38 +0000
                                      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 19:29 -0700
                                        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-21 22:33 -0700
                                    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-21 22:31 -0700
                            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 06:28 +0000
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                                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 13:22 +0000
                                  Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 09:37 -0700
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                                    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-22 01:38 +0000
                                      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-21 22:34 -0700
                                        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-22 15:14 +0000
                                          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-22 08:24 -0700
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                            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-20 21:26 -0700
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              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 06:10 +0000
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      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-19 12:06 +0000
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#14363 — does anyone use their iPad as a camera

I saw someone today taking photos in a public place using an iPad. I prefer
to use a pocket camera as its easier to carry around and the quality of the
pictures are a lot better.
I was wondering if anyone uses their iPad as a camera?

-- 
Regards Brian

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#14364

In article 
<393325137366981639.537581bclark-es.co.nz@free.teranews.com>,
 Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> wrote:

> I saw someone today taking photos in a public place using an iPad. I prefer
> to use a pocket camera as its easier to carry around and the quality of the
> pictures are a lot better.
> I was wondering if anyone uses their iPad as a camera?

I don't use my iPad 2. I do use my iPhone 4s with good results.

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#14365

On 18/08/2012 12:22, Brian wrote:
> I saw someone today taking photos in a public place using an iPad. I prefer
> to use a pocket camera as its easier to carry around and the quality of the
> pictures are a lot better.
> I was wondering if anyone uses their iPad as a camera?

It's better than no camera at all!  I use it if I don't have my DSLR and 
my smart-phone (5 MP Huawei Ascend G300) camera is not satisfactory or 
available.  I much prefer looking through the optical viewfinder of the 
DSLR, and in bright sunlight even framing can be a bit hit-and-miss. 
Mind you, the direct uploading to DropBox on the 'phone is a nice 
feature.  Perhaps I'll enable that on the iPad as well if I can be sure 
it will only be used over Wi-Fi.  The actual results are not bad, if you 
take the limitations of the fixed lens and small sensor into account.

A couple of examples:
   https://dl.dropbox.com/u/12622230/iPad-sample-1.jpg
   https://dl.dropbox.com/u/12622230/iPad-sample-2.jpg

You do feel a little conspicuous, though, as if you are using an 
old-fashioned plate camera!
-- 
Cheers,
David
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu

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#14378

At 18 Aug 2012 12:49:00 +0100 David Taylor wrote:
> On 18/08/2012 12:22, Brian wrote:
> > I saw someone today taking photos in a public place using an iPad. I
> > prefer to use a pocket camera as its easier to carry around and the
> > quality of the pictures are a lot better.
> > I was wondering if anyone uses their iPad as a camera?
> 
> It's better than no camera at all!...

> ...The actual results are not bad, if you take the limitations of the
fixed lens and small sensor into account.
> 
> A couple of examples:
>    https://dl.dropbox.com/u/12622230/iPad-sample-1.jpg
>    https://dl.dropbox.com/u/12622230/iPad-sample-2.jpg

Very nice.

> You do feel a little conspicuous, though, as if you are using an old-
fashioned plate camera!


Agreed. On vacation in Orlando two months ago I saw several people using
their iPads as cameras, and my first thought was that somebody should
make a flash powder bar on a pole that plugs into the dock connector...

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#14380

On 18/08/2012 16:04, Todd Allcock wrote:
> At 18 Aug 2012 12:49:00 +0100 David Taylor wrote:
[]
>> You do feel a little conspicuous, though, as if you are using an old-
> fashioned plate camera!
>
>
> Agreed. On vacation in Orlando two months ago I saw several people using
> their iPads as cameras, and my first thought was that somebody should
> make a flash powder bar on a pole that plugs into the dock connector...

LOL!  Great idea!  The next must-have accessory!
-- 
Cheers,
David
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu

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#14471

David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
> On 18/08/2012 12:22, Brian wrote:
>> I saw someone today taking photos in a public place using an iPad. I prefer
>> to use a pocket camera as its easier to carry around and the quality of the
>> pictures are a lot better.
>> I was wondering if anyone uses their iPad as a camera?
> 
> It's better than no camera at all!  I use it if I don't have my DSLR and
> my smart-phone (5 MP Huawei Ascend G300) camera is not satisfactory or
> available.  I much prefer looking through the optical viewfinder of the
> DSLR, and in bright sunlight even framing can be a bit hit-and-miss. Mind
> you, the direct uploading to DropBox on the 'phone is a nice feature. 
> Perhaps I'll enable that on the iPad as well if I can be sure it will
> only be used over Wi-Fi.  The actual results are not bad, if you take the
> limitations of the fixed lens and small sensor into account.
> 
> A couple of examples:
>   https://dl.dropbox.com/u/12622230/iPad-sample-1.jpg
>   https://dl.dropbox.com/u/12622230/iPad-sample-2.jpg
> 
> You do feel a little conspicuous, though, as if you are using an
> old-fashioned plate camera!

The photo examples look good. What version of the iPad were you using to
take the photos?

-- 
Regards Brian

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#14474

In article <1897672559367068841.575913bclark-es.co.nz@free.teranews.com>,
 Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> wrote:

> > A couple of examples:
> >   https://dl.dropbox.com/u/12622230/iPad-sample-1.jpg
> >   https://dl.dropbox.com/u/12622230/iPad-sample-2.jpg
> > 
> > You do feel a little conspicuous, though, as if you are using an
> > old-fashioned plate camera!
> 
> The photo examples look good. What version of the iPad were you using to
> take the photos?

Here are two more examples; taken with an iPad 3, in April of this year, 
with whatever version of iOS was current at the time.

<https://dl.dropbox.com/u/50314006/IMG_0033.jpg>
<https://dl.dropbox.com/u/50314006/IMG_0034.JPG>

-- Michelle

-- 
Tea Party Patriots is to Patriotism as 
People's Democratic Republic is to Democracy.

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#14613

Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
> In article <1897672559367068841.575913bclark-es.co.nz@free.teranews.com>,
>  Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> wrote:
> 
>>> A couple of examples:
>>>   https://dl.dropbox.com/u/12622230/iPad-sample-1.jpg
>>>   https://dl.dropbox.com/u/12622230/iPad-sample-2.jpg
>>> 
>>> You do feel a little conspicuous, though, as if you are using an
>>> old-fashioned plate camera!
>> 
>> The photo examples look good. What version of the iPad were you using to
>> take the photos?
> 
> Here are two more examples; taken with an iPad 3, in April of this year, 
> with whatever version of iOS was current at the time.
> 
> <https://dl.dropbox.com/u/50314006/IMG_0033.jpg>
> <https://dl.dropbox.com/u/50314006/IMG_0034.JPG>
> 
> -- Michelle

Well they have more detail in the photos compared to photos taken on my
iPad 2. I must find out how many Megapixels the camera on the iPad 3 has.

-- 
Regards Brian

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#14626

In message <1507351525367215715.203201bclark-es.co.nz@free.teranews.com> 
  Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> wrote:
> Well they have more detail in the photos compared to photos taken on my
> iPad 2. I must find out how many Megapixels the camera on the iPad 3 has.

Pretty sure it's 5. (compared to 1 on the iPad 2)

<http://www.apple.com/ipad/specs/>

Yep, 5MP.

-- 
The person on the other side was a young woman. Very obviously a young
woman. There was no possible way that she could have been mistaken for a
young man in any language, especially Braille.

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#14644

In article <1507351525367215715.203201bclark-es.co.nz@free.teranews.com>,
 Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> wrote:

> > Here are two more examples; taken with an iPad 3, in April of this year, 
> > with whatever version of iOS was current at the time.
> > 
> > <https://dl.dropbox.com/u/50314006/IMG_0033.jpg>
> > <https://dl.dropbox.com/u/50314006/IMG_0034.JPG>
> > 
> > -- Michelle
> 
> Well they have more detail in the photos compared to photos taken on my
> iPad 2. I must find out how many Megapixels the camera on the iPad 3 has.

5 megapixels.

-- 
Tea Party Patriots is to Patriotism as 
People's Democratic Republic is to Democracy.

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#14646

In article <michelle-469341.08040221082012@news.eternal-september.org>,
 Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

> > > Here are two more examples; taken with an iPad 3, in April of this year, 
> > > with whatever version of iOS was current at the time.
> > > 
> > > <https://dl.dropbox.com/u/50314006/IMG_0033.jpg>
> > > <https://dl.dropbox.com/u/50314006/IMG_0034.JPG>
> > > 
> > > -- Michelle
> > 
> > Well they have more detail in the photos compared to photos taken on my
> > iPad 2. I must find out how many Megapixels the camera on the iPad 3 has.
> 
> 5 megapixels.

I made some test photos this morning; the EXIF data will give you the 
information about each picture.

I shot the same bush with an iPad, iPhone (both HDR and no HDR) and a Nikon 
D70s.

A few notes, though; the date and time in the Nikon were way off (by about 
seven years), but I fixed that.  Also, I had the Nikon set to its most 
automatic mode, and it fired the flash.  I didn't try it again without the 
flash.

I saved the Nikon's file as the original NEF, so you will have to download 
it to view it; you can view the iOS photos with your browser, though.

<https://www.dropbox.com/sh/xsov4y1h4m0a816/GrM4reBlB6>

I didn't bother to try for any composition, as I'm trying to compare the 
quality of the cameras themselves, so composition doesn't really matter for 
this exercise.

-- 
Tea Party Patriots is to Patriotism as 
People's Democratic Republic is to Democracy.

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#14649

On 2012-08-21 08:30:59 -0700, Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> said:

> In article <michelle-469341.08040221082012@news.eternal-september.org>,
>  Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
> 
>>>> Here are two more examples; taken with an iPad 3, in April of this year,
>>>> with whatever version of iOS was current at the time.
>>>> 
>>>> <https://dl.dropbox.com/u/50314006/IMG_0033.jpg>
>>>> <https://dl.dropbox.com/u/50314006/IMG_0034.JPG>
>>>> 
>>>> -- Michelle
>>> 
>>> Well they have more detail in the photos compared to photos taken on my
>>> iPad 2. I must find out how many Megapixels the camera on the iPad 3 has.
>> 
>> 5 megapixels.
> 
> I made some test photos this morning; the EXIF data will give you the
> information about each picture.
> 
> I shot the same bush with an iPad, iPhone (both HDR and no HDR) and a Nikon
> D70s.
> 
> A few notes, though; the date and time in the Nikon were way off (by about
> seven years), but I fixed that.  Also, I had the Nikon set to its most
> automatic mode, and it fired the flash.  I didn't try it again without the
> flash.
> 
> I saved the Nikon's file as the original NEF, so you will have to download
> it to view it; you can view the iOS photos with your browser, though.
> 
> <https://www.dropbox.com/sh/xsov4y1h4m0a816/GrM4reBlB6>
> 
> I didn't bother to try for any composition, as I'm trying to compare the
> quality of the cameras themselves, so composition doesn't really matter for
> this exercise.

First you have to compare like images. The iPad, iPhone are jpeg files 
while the NEF is an unprocessed RAW file and has to minimally be 
processed via a Raw converter. I used Photoshop CS5 and Adobe Camera 
Raw (ACR).

The difference in physical sensor size is telling, the D70 image is far 
superior to the iOS images.
That said, of the iOS shots the non-HDR iPhone shot is the best and 
would probably be the best choice if choosing between the iPad or 
iPhone as a camera of convenience, or handy snapshot camera when a 
camera with a better lens and larger physical sensor is not available. 
The iPad shot is awful, or should I say the worst of the four. The 
iPhone HDR adds nothing (it is not true multi exposure HDR and is just 
a gimmick).
The iPhone is never going to replace a dedicated camera regardless of 
what advocates of using the iPhone as your only camera would like you 
to believe. However, it is a more than adequate camera of last resort, 
and I use mine in that role.

As always this is one of those times you should discount the megapixel 
race, the D70 is a very capable camera at 6.3MP.

Here are your 3 iOS shots compared with the processed D70 JPEG.

< 
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/lx56l61b7bbj1se/tzWia7Jg_Q/Shared%20Images/USENET%20SHARE/iOS%2BD70 
>

-- 
Regards,

Savageduck

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#14657

In article <2012082109361980278-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>,
Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:

> As always this is one of those times you should discount the megapixel 
> race, the D70 is a very capable camera at 6.3MP.

it is, but it's also an old camera. modern slrs are quite a bit better
than the d70.

the iphone wins on convenience. you can't slip a d70 into your pocket.

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#14658

On 2012-08-21 09:39:47 -0700, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> said:

> In article <2012082109361980278-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>,
> Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
> 
>> As always this is one of those times you should discount the megapixel
>> race, the D70 is a very capable camera at 6.3MP.
> 
> it is, but it's also an old camera. modern slrs are quite a bit better
> than the d70.

Yup! That is why my D70 was relegated to "lifeboat" status back in 
2008. My current working camera is a D300S.

> 
> the iphone wins on convenience. you can't slip a d70 into your pocket.

Agreed. As such my iPhone is my current third in line when it comes to 
camera selection. That selection goes like this, D300S, Canon G11, 
iPhone.

...and I am quite happy with the images I have captured with my iPhone, 
but it is my choice of last resource, unless I am using it as part of 
an App such as Theodolite.
< http://db.tt/jzZlmAo7 >
< http://db.tt/muVqyhh3 >




-- 
Regards,

Savageduck

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#14665

On 2012-08-21 16:39:47 +0000, nospam said:

> In article <2012082109361980278-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>,
> Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
> 
>> As always this is one of those times you should discount the megapixel
>> race, the D70 is a very capable camera at 6.3MP.
> 
> it is, but it's also an old camera. modern slrs are quite a bit better
> than the d70.
> 
> the iphone wins on convenience. you can't slip a d70 into your pocket.

We have a d-90 and thankfully, it's working great.  It's by far the 
best camera I've ever owned.

A friend, however, has a d-70 (maybe it's a d-80? I forget) which has 
now died and is interested in replacing it.  A few years ago, when we 
got our d-90, I'd have recommended the same.  But it's been 4 years and 
that's a _long_ time in digital photography.

Any strong recommendations?

Absolutely, btw, the camera you have with you is *always* superior to 
the one you don't.  However, we go out of our way to haul the D-90 when 
we think there's going to be something we're going to want to take 
pictures of.  Some of the early phone cameras just weren't worth 
bothering with, but now, with my iPhone 4 (and the improved camera is 
the thing that made me think most about getting a 4S), I get a lot of 
shots I'd never have gotten before.

I should do a side-by-side between the iPhone 4 and the small Canon 
pocket point-and-shoot I've got, which I've had for about 5+ years.  I 
think the Canon may still actually be a bit better, but I haven't 
really done a close comparison.  I pretty much always have the iPhone, 
so I take more pictures with it than anything else now.

Dropbox's new deal to suck pix out of your camera is pretty 
interesting.  One of my desktop computers is my true, permanent photo 
repository, but if I'm on the road with my laptop, that's an easy way 
to get the pix over to the desktop machine.  Their iOS app has a 
setting which automatically sends any pix or vids on your iOS device up 
to your DropBox account, too, which works kind of like iCloud's 
photostream.

Whether photostream or dropbox, having pix magically copied off your 
camera/device up to more permanent storage seems like a great thing, 
especially when traveling.  I remember trying to find internet cafes, 
burning pix to CDs and swapping out (what now seem like awfully puny) 
memory cards, and I'm glad I don't have to worry about that stuff 
anymore.

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#14666

On 2012-08-21 15:05:13 -0700, Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> said:

> On 2012-08-21 16:39:47 +0000, nospam said:
> 
>> In article <2012082109361980278-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>,
>> Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> As always this is one of those times you should discount the megapixel
>>> race, the D70 is a very capable camera at 6.3MP.
>> 
>> it is, but it's also an old camera. modern slrs are quite a bit better
>> than the d70.
>> 
>> the iphone wins on convenience. you can't slip a d70 into your pocket.
> 
> We have a d-90 and thankfully, it's working great.  It's by far the 
> best camera I've ever owned.
> 
> A friend, however, has a d-70 (maybe it's a d-80? I forget) which has 
> now died and is interested in replacing it.  A few years ago, when we 
> got our d-90, I'd have recommended the same.  But it's been 4 years and 
> that's a _long_ time in digital photography.
> 
> Any strong recommendations?

Your D90 is a very capable and tough camera, and rather than replace it 
consider an upgrade which you can use with it. That way you will have a 
functional spare Nikon body you can use. Particularly useful if you are 
shooting with two different lenses where switching lenses might be a 
hassle.

If you are happy with Nikon APS-C size sensors such as that found in 
your D90, my recommendation would be the D7000.
< http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikond7000 >

If you want to step up to a full frame DSLR, the D800 is worth considering.
< http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikon-d800-d800e/ >

As a disclaimer, I am a Nikon user, and I am sure that you would like 
to have some use out of the Nikkor lenses you own, otherwise I would 
have recommended some Canon, or Sony DSLRs to consider.

> 
> Absolutely, btw, the camera you have with you is *always* superior to 
> the one you don't.  However, we go out of our way to haul the D-90 when 
> we think there's going to be something we're going to want to take 
> pictures of.  Some of the early phone cameras just weren't worth 
> bothering with, but now, with my iPhone 4 (and the improved camera is 
> the thing that made me think most about getting a 4S), I get a lot of 
> shots I'd never have gotten before.
> 
> I should do a side-by-side between the iPhone 4 and the small Canon 
> pocket point-and-shoot I've got, which I've had for about 5+ years.  I 
> think the Canon may still actually be a bit better, but I haven't 
> really done a close comparison.  I pretty much always have the iPhone, 
> so I take more pictures with it than anything else now.
> 
> Dropbox's new deal to suck pix out of your camera is pretty 
> interesting.  One of my desktop computers is my true, permanent photo 
> repository, but if I'm on the road with my laptop, that's an easy way 
> to get the pix over to the desktop machine.  Their iOS app has a 
> setting which automatically sends any pix or vids on your iOS device up 
> to your DropBox account, too, which works kind of like iCloud's 
> photostream.
> 
> Whether photostream or dropbox, having pix magically copied off your 
> camera/device up to more permanent storage seems like a great thing, 
> especially when traveling.  I remember trying to find internet cafes, 
> burning pix to CDs and swapping out (what now seem like awfully puny) 
> memory cards, and I'm glad I don't have to worry about that stuff 
> anymore.

Yup!


-- 
Regards,

Savageduck

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#14672

On 2012-08-21 22:21:21 +0000, Savageduck said:

> On 2012-08-21 15:05:13 -0700, Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> said:
> 
>> On 2012-08-21 16:39:47 +0000, nospam said:
>> 
>>> In article <2012082109361980278-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>,
>>> Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> As always this is one of those times you should discount the megapixel
>>>> race, the D70 is a very capable camera at 6.3MP.
>>> 
>>> it is, but it's also an old camera. modern slrs are quite a bit better
>>> than the d70.
>>> 
>>> the iphone wins on convenience. you can't slip a d70 into your pocket.
>> 
>> We have a d-90 and thankfully, it's working great.  It's by far the 
>> best camera I've ever owned.
>> 
>> A friend, however, has a d-70 (maybe it's a d-80? I forget) which has 
>> now died and is interested in replacing it.  A few years ago, when we 
>> got our d-90, I'd have recommended the same.  But it's been 4 years and 
>> that's a _long_ time in digital photography.
>> 
>> Any strong recommendations?
> 
> Your D90 is a very capable and tough camera, and rather than replace it 
> consider an upgrade which you can use with it. That way you will have a 
> functional spare Nikon body you can use. Particularly useful if you are 
> shooting with two different lenses where switching lenses might be a 
> hassle.

Thanks.  I am keeping my D-90.  I'm wondering what to tell my friend 
who has a now-broken D-70, though.  I got a rec for the new D3200 and 
will tell my friend to take a look at that.

> 
> If you are happy with Nikon APS-C size sensors such as that found in 
> your D90, my recommendation would be the D7000.
> < http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikond7000 >
> 
> If you want to step up to a full frame DSLR, the D800 is worth considering.
> < http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikon-d800-d800e/ >

A bit out of both my and my friend's leagues, I think.  I'm sure I'm 
under-utilizing the potential of my D-90, but it takes beautiful shots, 
many of which I've found impossible to take with a point-and-shoot or, 
of course, my iPhone.  But I'd doubt either of us needs anything more - 
it looks like the current successor is that 3200.
> 
> As a disclaimer, I am a Nikon user, and I am sure that you would like 
> to have some use out of the Nikkor lenses you own, otherwise I would 
> have recommended some Canon, or Sony DSLRs to consider.

Again, I'm not replacing my D-90 any time soon unless it dies, but 
if/when it does, the lens we got with it, the AF-S DX Nikkor 18-105mm 
f/3.5-5.6G ED VR, is a pretty nice lens and I suppose I could save a 
bit buying just a body.  It looks like the D3200 (though who knows what 
will be current when my D-90 dies) comes with an 18-55mm, otherwise 
similar lens.  I don't think my friend's lens is worth keeping, though. 
 It doesn't have VR, and I think it's a narrower range.

Thanks again!

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#14676

In article <k1146c$70u$1@reader1.panix.com>, Bread
<BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> wrote:

> Again, I'm not replacing my D-90 any time soon unless it dies, but 
> if/when it does, the lens we got with it, the AF-S DX Nikkor 18-105mm 
> f/3.5-5.6G ED VR, is a pretty nice lens and I suppose I could save a 
> bit buying just a body.  It looks like the D3200 (though who knows what 
> will be current when my D-90 dies) comes with an 18-55mm, otherwise 
> similar lens.  I don't think my friend's lens is worth keeping, though. 
>  It doesn't have VR, and I think it's a narrower range.

if he bought the d70 kit, he probably has the 18-70mm, but he might
have the older non-stabilized 18-55mm. 

the d3200 isn't sold as body only, so he'll have an extra lens he can
sell.

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#14697

On 2012-08-21 16:13:39 -0700, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> said:

> In article <k1146c$70u$1@reader1.panix.com>, Bread
> <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> wrote:
> 
>> Again, I'm not replacing my D-90 any time soon unless it dies, but
>> if/when it does, the lens we got with it, the AF-S DX Nikkor 18-105mm
>> f/3.5-5.6G ED VR, is a pretty nice lens and I suppose I could save a
>> bit buying just a body.  It looks like the D3200 (though who knows what
>> will be current when my D-90 dies) comes with an 18-55mm, otherwise
>> similar lens.  I don't think my friend's lens is worth keeping, though.
>> It doesn't have VR, and I think it's a narrower range.
> 
> if he bought the d70 kit, he probably has the 18-70mm, but he might
> have the older non-stabilized 18-55mm.

The original 18-70mm kit lens was a surprisingly good over performer.

> 
> the d3200 isn't sold as body only, so he'll have an extra lens he can
> sell.


-- 
Regards,

Savageduck

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#14698

In article <2012082119103550073-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>,
Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:

> > if he bought the d70 kit, he probably has the 18-70mm, but he might
> > have the older non-stabilized 18-55mm.
> 
> The original 18-70mm kit lens was a surprisingly good over performer.

yes it was.

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