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| Started by | Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> |
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| First post | 2016-09-12 01:34 +0000 |
| Last post | 2016-09-13 06:10 +0000 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 100 — 8 participants |
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Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-12 01:34 +0000
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-11 21:45 -0400
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac AL <noemail@invalid.com> - 2016-09-11 20:17 -0700
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-12 20:11 +0000
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-12 20:11 +0000
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-12 16:26 -0400
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-12 21:14 +0000
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-12 17:44 -0400
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-13 00:22 +0000
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-12 20:34 -0400
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-13 03:32 +0000
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-12 23:38 -0400
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-13 04:05 +0000
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-13 00:14 -0400
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-13 04:50 +0000
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-13 01:07 -0400
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-13 05:13 +0000
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-13 01:18 -0400
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-13 05:26 +0000
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-13 05:19 +0000
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-13 04:51 +0000
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-13 04:39 +0000
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-13 05:13 +0000
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-13 05:26 +0000
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-16 18:12 +0000
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-17 05:28 +1000
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-16 20:36 +0000
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-17 03:13 +0000
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-17 17:02 +1000
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-17 07:13 +0000
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-17 10:08 -0400
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-17 03:10 +0000
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-17 15:17 +1000
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-16 20:34 +0000
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-17 10:38 +1000
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-17 03:13 +0000
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-17 17:10 +1000
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-17 07:26 +0000
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-17 07:25 +0000
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-17 20:02 +1000
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-17 17:31 +0000
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-18 06:05 +1000
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-17 20:42 +0000
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-18 07:46 +1000
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-17 03:09 +0000
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-17 15:10 +1000
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-17 07:46 +0000
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-17 20:04 +1000
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-16 18:12 +0000
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-13 15:29 +1000
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-13 10:10 +1000
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-13 03:32 +0000
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-12 23:38 -0400
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-13 07:07 +1000
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-12 21:35 +0000
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac ElfinArc <elfinarc6@gmail.com> - 2016-09-12 16:44 -0500
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-13 00:21 +0000
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-13 00:48 +0000
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-12 20:50 -0400
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-13 02:07 +0000
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-13 04:05 +0000
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-13 15:20 +1000
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-13 05:26 +0000
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-13 04:50 +0000
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-13 05:11 +0000
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-13 05:26 +0000
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-13 03:32 +0000
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-13 04:33 +0000
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-13 05:13 +0000
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-13 01:18 -0400
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-13 05:26 +0000
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-13 05:24 +0000
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-13 05:29 +0000
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-12 02:25 +0000
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-12 20:38 +0000
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-12 16:41 -0400
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-13 00:22 +0000
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-12 20:34 -0400
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-12 21:02 +0000
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2016-09-12 09:47 +0100
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-12 05:25 -0400
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-12 21:14 +0000
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac Wade Garrett <wade@cooler.net> - 2016-09-12 09:00 -0400
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-13 00:22 +0000
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-13 03:31 +0000
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-13 04:49 +0000
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-13 05:08 +0000
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-13 05:26 +0000
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-13 05:30 +0000
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-13 05:42 +0000
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-13 01:49 -0400
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-13 06:10 +0000
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-13 02:19 -0400
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-14 04:41 +0000
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-13 05:51 +0000
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-13 06:10 +0000
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-13 06:14 +0000
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-14 04:40 +0000
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-13 01:49 -0400
Re: Scanning for WiFI like inSSIDer on iOS & Macbook Pro & iMac Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-13 06:10 +0000
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| From | Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> |
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| Date | 2016-09-13 04:05 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nr7tti$1l29$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #58613 |
On 13 Sep 2016 02:07:38 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote: > Must be his pathetic aversion to the "evil M.A.R.K.E.T.I.N.G names"... The nice thing in those specs is that it lists the "Radio Output Power" at - Radio output power: 32.5 dBm maximum (varies by country) Hmmm... is thtat EIRP? Or is that just the radio sans antenna? It doesn't say - but it's so high that it's probably EIRP. Most home router antennas, AFAICR, are about 18dBi, so 32.5dBm seems pretty high (yeah, I know one is isotropic and the other is compared against 50mW but those are the figures that I have). The maximum antenna and radio power and EIRP are listed here: http://www.air802.com/fcc-rules-and-regulations.html But, as noted, it varies by country: https://w.wol.ph/2015/08/28/maximum-wifi-transmission-power-country/
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-09-13 15:20 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <e3pgk9F5k4pU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #58621 |
Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> wrote > Jolly Roger wrote > The nice thing in those specs is that it lists the "Radio Output Power" > at - Radio output power: 32.5 dBm maximum (varies by country) > Hmmm... is thtat EIRP? Yep. > Or is that just the radio sans antenna? Nope, its never that. > It doesn't say - but it's so high that it's probably EIRP. Nope, it will be with the antenna(s) it has. > Most home router antennas, AFAICR, are about 18dBi, so 32.5dBm > seems pretty high (yeah, I know one is isotropic and the other is > compared against 50mW but those are the figures that I have). > The maximum antenna and radio power and EIRP are listed here: > http://www.air802.com/fcc-rules-and-regulations.html > But, as noted, it varies by country: > https://w.wol.ph/2015/08/28/maximum-wifi-transmission-power-country/
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| From | Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> |
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| Date | 2016-09-13 05:26 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nr82lk$1q19$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #58639 |
On Tue, 13 Sep 2016 15:20:05 +1000, Rod Speed wrote: >> It doesn't say - but it's so high that it's probably EIRP. > > Nope, it will be with the antenna(s) it has. Thanks. I was being nice to JR because he was nice enough to show me the specs. I *always* respond in kind. Thanks for clarifying the spec was a maximum EIRP.
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| From | Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> |
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| Date | 2016-09-13 04:50 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nr80hq$1npn$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #58611 |
On Mon, 12 Sep 2016 20:50:21 -0400, nospam wrote: > and even getting the product name correct: Compare the quality and specificity of these Apple specs: http://www.apple.com/airport-extreme/specs/ Against typical Ubuiquti specs for the radio that I have on my roof: https://dl.ubnt.com/datasheets/rocketm/RocketM_DS.pdf This is the Apple spec: Radio output power: 32.5 dBm maximum (varies by country) This is the Ubiquit spec for "my" radio: Operating FrequencyWorldwide: 5170 - 5875 MHz USA: 5725 - 5850 MHz* Output Power27 dBm TX Power Specifications RX Power Specifications ModulationData RateAvg. TXToleranceModulationData RateSensitivityTolerance 802.11a6 - 24 Mbps27 dBmą 2 dB 802.11a6 - 24 Mbps-94 dBm Min.ą 2 dB 36 Mbps25 dBmą 2 dB 36 Mbps-80 dBmą 2 dB 48 Mbps23 dBmą 2 dB 48 Mbps-77 dBmą 2 dB 54 Mbps22 dBmą 2 dB 54 Mbps-75 dBmą 2 dB 802.11n/airMAXMCS027 dBmą 2 dB 802.11n/airMAXMCS0 -96 dBmą 2 dB MCS127 dBmą 2 dBMCS1-95 dBmą 2 dB MCS227 dBmą 2 dBMCS2-92 dBmą 2 dB MCS327 dBmą 2 dBMCS3-90 dBmą 2 dB MCS426 dBmą 2 dBMCS4-86 dBmą 2 dB MCS524 dBmą 2 dBMCS5 -83 dBmą 2 dB MCS622 dBm ą 2 dBMCS6-77 dBmą 2 dB MCS721 dBmą 2 dBMCS7 -74 dBmą 2 dB MCS827 dBmą 2 dBMCS8-95 dBmą 2 dB MCS927 dBmą 2 dBMCS9 -93 dBmą 2 dB MCS1027 dBmą 2 dBMCS10-90 dBmą 2 dB MCS1127 dBmą 2 dBMCS11-87 dBmą 2 dB MCS1226 dBmą 2 dBMCS12-84 dBmą 2 dB MCS1324 dBmą 2 dBMCS13-79 dBmą 2 dB MCS1422 dBmą 2 dBMCS14-78 dBmą 2 dB MCS1521 dBmą 2 dBMCS15-75 dBmą 2 dB
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2016-09-13 05:11 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <e3pg41F4unfU6@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #58627 |
On 2016-09-13, Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> wrote: > On Mon, 12 Sep 2016 20:50:21 -0400, nospam wrote: > >> and even getting the product name correct: > > Compare the quality and specificity of these Apple specs: Nobody here cares for yet another of your silly public masturbation sessions about specifications. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> |
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| Date | 2016-09-13 05:26 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nr82lp$1q19$5@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #58632 |
On 13 Sep 2016 05:11:29 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote: > Nobody here cares for yet another of your silly public masturbation > sessions about specifications. Classic.
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| From | Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> |
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| Date | 2016-09-13 03:32 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nr7rvo$1jcr$3@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #58610 |
On 13 Sep 2016 00:48:56 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote: > For someone who constantly claims he is smarter than everyone else in the > Apple news groups, you sure seem to have a hard time with basic things like > clicking the Tech Specs link on that very page: > > <http://www.apple.com/airport-extreme/specs/> Ah, that's more like it! http://www.apple.com/airport-extreme/specs/ Nice. That's what I was looking for. BTW, I didn't suggest that router, someone else did. So for you to claim that I *planned* a trollish behavior regarding that router gives me far more credit for being clever than I can imagine you'd give me. I'm smart ... but I'm not *that* smart. In this case, I think we're pretty much done with the original question. The original question was how to scan for WiFi on Apple equipment. The answer is fine with me, which is: iOS: - Airport Utility https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/airport-utility/id427276530 - Fing Mac: - NetSpot: WiFi survey & wireless scanner, By Etwok LLC https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/netspot-wifi-survey-wireless/id514951692 - Wireless Diagnostics https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202663 And to check for intruders on either platform: - Fing https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/fing-network-scanner/id430921107
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2016-09-13 04:33 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <e3pdtiF4unfU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #58617 |
On 2016-09-13, Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> wrote: > On 13 Sep 2016 00:48:56 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote: > >> For someone who constantly claims he is smarter than everyone else in the >> Apple news groups, you sure seem to have a hard time with basic things like >> clicking the Tech Specs link on that very page: >> >> <http://www.apple.com/airport-extreme/specs/> > > Ah, that's more like it! > http://www.apple.com/airport-extreme/specs/ Repeating a URL I already hand fed you doesn't add anything of value to the conversation. > Nice. That's what I was looking for. You couldn't have been looking very hard since it's right at the top of the page, titles "Tech Specs". > BTW, I didn't suggest that router, someone else did. I don't care; and it had zero bearing on my response to you. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> |
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| Date | 2016-09-13 05:13 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nr81t1$1p9a$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #58624 |
On 13 Sep 2016 04:33:54 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote: > Repeating a URL I already hand fed you doesn't add anything of value to > the conversation. I never see quoted text. So, repeating the URL helps a person reading this who is hiding quoted text. Most newsreaders, of course, can easily flip between hiding quoted text and not hiding it - but I repeat as a courtesy to the reader who hides quoted text. >> Nice. That's what I was looking for. > > You couldn't have been looking very hard since it's right at the top of > the page, titles "Tech Specs". I didn't want to be mean to you since you were being nice, but you *do* realize that the spec you gave me *is* a purely M-A-R-K-E-T-I-N-G BS spec, and, as such, is essentially useless, right? I mean, just *compare* the spec you gave which was a single line for *all* frequencies and *all* countries, against the spec for "my" radio on my roof, which lists not only the spec at *each* frequency, but also the transmit and receive spec, and the error range. Your purely MARKETING spec (which is almost completely useless): - Radio output power: 32.5 dBm maximum (varies by country) A far more useful spec that is much closer to being "real": - https://dl.ubnt.com/datasheets/rocketm/RocketM_DS.pdf PS: They all lie. But boy oh boy, does Apple hide a *lot* more stuff than Ubiquiti does. What you gave is the best Apple has - but it's something nobody who really cared about the output could actually use. Notice the difference in the Ubiquiti spec *before* you respond. >> BTW, I didn't suggest that router, someone else did. > > I don't care; and it had zero bearing on my response to you. I never take the initiative on negativity. I always follow *your* lead & simply respond in kind. You should have noticed that by now.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-09-13 01:18 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <130920160118168163%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #58634 |
In article <nr81t1$1p9a$2@gioia.aioe.org>, Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> wrote: > > Repeating a URL I already hand fed you doesn't add anything of value to > > the conversation. > > I never see quoted text. then your newsreader is broken
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| From | Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> |
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| Date | 2016-09-13 05:26 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nr82li$1q19$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #58637 |
On Tue, 13 Sep 2016 01:18:16 -0400, nospam wrote: >> I never see quoted text. > > then your newsreader is broken I think my newsreaders work just like most newsreaders. In all mine, I can hit "q" to toggle quoted text, just as I can hit "h" to toggle the header lines. I almost never do. I'm sure I'm not unique in that regard.
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2016-09-13 05:24 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <e3pgshF4unfU8@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #58634 |
On 2016-09-13, Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> wrote: > On 13 Sep 2016 04:33:54 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote: > >> Repeating a URL I already hand fed you doesn't add anything of value to >> the conversation. > > I never see quoted text. Sounds like a personal problem. > So, repeating the URL helps a person reading this who is hiding quoted > text. > > Most newsreaders, of course, can easily flip between hiding quoted text and > not hiding it - but I repeat as a courtesy to the reader who hides quoted > text. No, you do it to stroke your ego as part of your public masturbatory experience. You seem to believe the more verbose your posts the better. Fortunately, people are smart enough to see right through your silly games. [useless trollish verbosity omitted] -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> |
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| Date | 2016-09-13 05:29 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nr82rm$1qd0$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #58640 |
On 13 Sep 2016 05:24:33 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote: > No, you do it to stroke your ego as part of your public masturbatory > experience. You seem to believe the more verbose your posts the better. > Fortunately, people are smart enough to see right through your silly > games. Classic.
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2016-09-12 02:25 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <e3mi03FegksU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #58567 |
On 2016-09-12, Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> wrote: > What is the best way, nowadays, to scan for wireless frequencies given an > entirely Apple household of iPhones, iPads, Macbook Pros, and an iMac? Numerous GUI and command-line tools exist to do that on a Mac. I often use NetSpot to diagnose potential WiFi reception issues for instance, but there are others: <https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/netspot-wifi-survey-wireless/id514951692?mt=12> [needless troll ramblings omitted] -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> |
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| Date | 2016-09-12 20:38 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nr73oa$ig1$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #58569 |
On 12 Sep 2016 02:25:07 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote: > Numerous GUI and command-line tools exist to do that on a Mac. I often > use NetSpot to diagnose potential WiFi reception issues for instance, > but there are others: > > <https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/netspot-wifi-survey-wireless/id514951692?mt=12> Thank you for suggesting a Mac app since I have no way of testing them but the user has an old iMac (which they had to charge up so I doubt they use it all that often - but it had an Ethernet port) and two Macbook Pros (which didn't have RJ45 ports). I will suggest *that* freeware app for them. - NetSpot: WiFi survey & wireless scanner, By Etwok LLC https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/netspot-wifi-survey-wireless/id514951692 The heatmap in the app description is *gorgeous*, but I wonder who is going to have a house plan "on" their computer. http://a2.mzstatic.com/us/r30/Purple4/v4/41/27/b3/4127b302-d96e-3ef0-fe14-fbded3d0f261/screen800x500.jpeg Nonetheless, all we need are the first few bullet items in the description: * NetSpot collects and visualizes 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac WiFi data * support for 2.4GHz and 5GHz channel bands * lots of data collected on every network: AP name (SSID), MAC address (BSSID), vendor, channel, signal levels, encryption and more Thanks for suggesting what seems to be a great freeware app for the Mac that supplements what iOS does with the AirPort Utility for this all-Apple household.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-09-12 16:41 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <120920161641468847%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #58591 |
In article <nr73oa$ig1$2@gioia.aioe.org>, Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> wrote: > Thank you for suggesting a Mac app since I have no way of testing them but > the user has an old iMac (which they had to charge up so I doubt they use > it all that often imacs do not require charging. > - but it had an Ethernet port) and two Macbook Pros > (which didn't have RJ45 ports). use wireless.
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| From | Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> |
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| Date | 2016-09-13 00:22 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nr7grb$15q2$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #58592 |
On Mon, 12 Sep 2016 16:41:46 -0400, nospam wrote: > In article <nr73oa$ig1$2@gioia.aioe.org>, Horace Algier > <horatio@horatio.net> wrote: > >> Thank you for suggesting a Mac app since I have no way of testing them but >> the user has an old iMac (which they had to charge up so I doubt they use >> it all that often > > imacs do not require charging. He says he has an iMac laptop. It has a battery. But I wouldn't know an iMac from a Big Mac. I'll ask him. >> - but it had an Ethernet port) and two Macbook Pros >> (which didn't have RJ45 ports). > > use wireless. That works "if" he remembers his login/password. And, if he didn't turn off the wireless login. And if he didn't change the port. I'm gonna call him at 5pm (oops. it's 5pm. I can call now).
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-09-12 20:34 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <120920162034014936%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #58604 |
In article <nr7grb$15q2$2@gioia.aioe.org>, Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> wrote: > >> Thank you for suggesting a Mac app since I have no way of testing them but > >> the user has an old iMac (which they had to charge up so I doubt they use > >> it all that often > > > > imacs do not require charging. > > He says he has an iMac laptop. he's confused, as are you. an imac is a desktop. a macbook is a laptop. > It has a battery. > But I wouldn't know an iMac from a Big Mac. no surprise there. > >> - but it had an Ethernet port) and two Macbook Pros > >> (which didn't have RJ45 ports). > > > > use wireless. > > That works "if" he remembers his login/password. > And, if he didn't turn off the wireless login. > And if he didn't change the port. there's nothing to remember since he just bought a *new* wifi router. it'll have whatever password he gives it when he sets it up.
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2016-09-12 21:02 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <e3ojenFtvtbU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #58591 |
Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> wrote: > On 12 Sep 2016 02:25:07 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote: > >> Numerous GUI and command-line tools exist to do that on a Mac. I often >> use NetSpot to diagnose potential WiFi reception issues for instance, >> but there are others: >> >> <https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/netspot-wifi-survey-wireless/id514951692?mt=12> > > I will suggest *that* freeware app for them. > > The heatmap in the app description is *gorgeous*, but I wonder who is going > to have a house plan "on" their computer. > http://a2.mzstatic.com/us/r30/Purple4/v4/41/27/b3/4127b302-d96e-3ef0-fe14-fbded3d0f261/screen800x500.jpeg As if creating a drawing of your own floor plan at all hard to do. Take some measurements and open your favorite drawing app; done deal. Took me less than five minutes. And you call yourself a "power user" who knows more than most "idiot" Apple users... : ) -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-09-12 09:47 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <nr5q29$m9q$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #58567 |
On 12/09/2016 02:34, Horace Algier wrote: > What is the best way, nowadays, to scan for wireless frequencies given an > entirely Apple household of iPhones, iPads, Macbook Pros, and an iMac? [] > What is the best way, nowadays, for this older couple to scan for wireless > frequencies given an entirely Apple household of iPhones, iPads, Macbook > Pros, and an iMac? A cheap Android phone and inSSIDer, WiFi Analyzer, FRITZ!App WLAN etc. etc. -- Cheers, David Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
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