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Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night

Started byHorace Algier <horatio@horatio.net>
First post2016-09-05 03:48 +0000
Last post2016-09-07 00:35 +0100
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  Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-05 03:48 +0000
    Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-04 23:58 -0400
      Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-05 04:24 +0000
        Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-05 00:42 -0400
          Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-05 06:41 +0000
            Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-05 03:01 -0400
              Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-05 09:18 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-05 21:20 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-05 12:31 -0400
            Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-05 20:14 +1000
              Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-05 10:41 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-05 21:26 +1000
              Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-05 10:54 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-05 22:08 +1000
                  Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2016-09-06 06:44 +1200
                  Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-06 06:49 +0000
                    Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-06 19:31 +1000
                      Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Henry Jones <Henry@aol.com> - 2016-09-06 18:35 +0000
                        Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2016-09-07 07:18 +1200
                        Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-07 06:05 +1000
                          Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-06 20:50 +0000
                            Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-07 08:03 +1000
                              Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-06 23:09 +0000
                              Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-06 23:09 +0000
                                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-07 10:27 +1000
                                  Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-07 14:19 +0000
                                    Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 04:32 +1000
                                      Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-07 21:14 +0000
                                        Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 09:56 +1000
                                          Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-08 02:00 +0000
                                            Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 12:33 +1000
                                              Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-08 03:10 +0000
                                                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 13:49 +1000
                                                  Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-08 05:38 +0000
                              Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-06 23:09 +0000
                                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-07 10:32 +1000
                              Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-06 23:09 +0000
                                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-07 10:33 +1000
        Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "W. Wesley Groleau" <Groleau+News@FreeShell.org> - 2016-09-05 01:35 -0500
          Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-05 08:33 +0000
            Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-05 04:39 -0400
              Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-05 09:32 +0000
      Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-05 07:12 +0200
        Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-09-05 17:41 -0400
      Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-05 02:46 -0600
        Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-05 09:44 +0000
          Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-06 06:47 -0600
            Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-06 18:34 +0000
              Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-07 08:36 -0600
      Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2016-09-06 06:39 +1200
    Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-05 14:53 +1000
      Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-05 15:09 +1000
        Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-05 06:58 +0000
          Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night sobriquet <dohduhdah@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-05 02:26 -0700
            Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2016-09-06 06:50 +1200
          Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-05 21:10 +1000
            Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-06 06:50 +0000
      Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-05 07:27 +0200
        Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-05 01:42 -0400
          Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-05 11:55 +0200
            Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-05 12:31 -0400
              Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-05 21:17 +0200
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-05 15:19 -0400
        Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "W. Wesley Groleau" <Groleau+News@FreeShell.org> - 2016-09-05 01:38 -0500
          Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-05 09:18 +0000
          Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-05 11:49 +0200
        Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-05 17:20 +1000
          Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-05 09:18 +0000
        Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-05 09:18 +0000
          Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-05 11:57 +0200
            Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-05 10:40 +0000
              Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-05 13:11 +0200
      Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-05 06:41 +0000
        Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-05 21:04 +1000
          Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-05 19:04 +0000
            Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-05 15:07 -0400
            Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-06 05:51 +1000
              Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-05 21:00 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-05 17:08 -0400
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-06 07:35 +1000
            Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-09-05 14:55 -0700
              Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-09-05 20:06 -0700
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-06 06:49 +0000
                  Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-06 03:16 -0400
                    Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-09-06 00:47 -0700
                      Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-06 08:35 +0000
                        Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-06 11:05 -0400
                          Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-06 18:34 +0000
                        Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-09-06 12:05 -0700
                          Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-06 20:19 +0000
                        Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-09-07 20:09 +0000
                          Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-07 21:14 +0000
                            Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 09:49 +1000
                              Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-08 02:00 +0000
                                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 12:16 +1000
                                  Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-08 03:10 +0000
                                    Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 13:45 +1000
                                      Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-08 23:13 +0000
                                        Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 10:15 +1000
                            Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-09-08 20:05 +0000
                  Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-09-06 12:03 -0700
                    Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-06 15:37 -0400
                      Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-06 23:09 +0000
                        Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-06 19:19 -0400
                          Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-07 10:37 +1000
                            Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-07 14:19 +0000
                          Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-07 04:26 +0000
                    Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-06 20:19 +0000
                      Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-07 07:43 +1000
                        Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-06 23:09 +0000
                          Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-07 10:22 +1000
                          Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2016-09-08 01:38 +1000
                            Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-07 16:35 +0000
                              Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-07 12:48 -0400
                              Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-09-07 09:58 -0700
                                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-09-07 10:01 -0700
                                  Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-07 17:28 +0000
                                    Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night AL <noemail@none.invalid.com> - 2016-09-07 11:19 -0700
                                      Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-07 21:14 +0000
                                  Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2016-09-08 06:24 +1200
                                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-07 17:28 +0000
                              Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 04:40 +1000
                                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-07 21:14 +0000
                                  Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 09:47 +1000
                                    Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-08 02:00 +0000
                                      Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 12:13 +1000
                                        Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-08 03:10 +0000
                                          Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 13:41 +1000
                                            Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night AL <noemail@none.invalid.com> - 2016-09-07 21:31 -0700
                                              Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-08 10:51 +0000
                                                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 05:21 +1000
                                                  Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-08 23:13 +0000
                                          Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night AL <noemail@none.invalid.com> - 2016-09-07 21:31 -0700
                                            Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-08 11:37 +0000
                                              Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 05:32 +1000
                              Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2016-09-10 01:16 +1000
                                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-09 18:00 +0000
                                  Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2016-09-10 19:27 +1000
                                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Ricardo Jimenez <rickyjim@earthlink.net> - 2016-09-10 10:18 -0400
                                  Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2016-09-11 00:56 +1000
                                    Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Ricardo Jimenez <rickyjim@earthlink.net> - 2016-09-10 11:14 -0400
                            Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-09-07 20:18 +0000
                              Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-07 21:10 +0000
                      Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-09-06 16:45 -0700
                        Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-07 03:34 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-09-07 09:53 +1000
                  Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-09-06 23:33 -0700
                    Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-07 16:34 +0000
                    Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-09-08 10:12 +1000
                      Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-08 00:54 +0000
    Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-05 10:57 +0000
    Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2016-09-05 06:58 -0400
    Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-09-05 14:10 -0400
      Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-05 14:25 -0400
        Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2016-09-06 06:48 +1200
        Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-06 05:41 +1000
          Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-05 15:47 -0400
            Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-06 06:54 +1000
              Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-05 17:08 -0400
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-06 08:45 +1000
                  Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-05 19:09 -0400
                    Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-06 10:05 +1000
    Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Calum <com.gmail@nospam.scottishwildcat> - 2016-09-07 00:35 +0100

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#58471

FromHorace Algier <horatio@horatio.net>
Date2016-09-07 17:28 +0000
Message-ID<nqpiol$1vlb$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#58468
On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 09:58:45 -0700, Savageduck wrote:

> If you want free try:
> alt.binaries.mp3.audiobooks

Thanks for the well intentioned advice, because I only use free stuff and
if I want to *read* a book, I normally just get it from the library (mine
buys almost any book you ask them to get for you).

I don't do binaries on Usenet, but I could - so I'll take a look at that
newsgroup so that I can obtain them directly onto the mobile device.

I would think I can also torrent them directly quite easily onto my mobile
device, although I've never looked for audio-book torrents so I'm just
assuming they exist.

> There are all sorts of things to be found there from history(Civil War, 
> WWI, WWII), to good/great novels, scifi, etc. You might have to dig 
> through some crap to find something which matches your taste. The only 
> caveat is having a Usenet provider which supports binary groups.

I can use any of a few dozen free Usenet servers, so, that's not the
problem. 

I think also the local library must do audio books since they have their
very own branded mobile app that they keep trying to push on us.

I go to the library almost every day, so, I'll ask them later on today as I
am going on a hike so when I get back, I'll head to the library.

Thanks for the well-intentioned advice.

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#58475

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2016-09-08 04:40 +1000
Message-ID<e3b58kFo8grU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#58466
Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> wrote 
> Gordon Levi wrote
 
>> I get it. You want film makers to make truly boring documentaries 
>> that will put everyone to sleep. Why not go to sleep with a good 
>> audio book? A book will provide the detail that you seem to want 
>> and the rest of us can watch an absorbing video. Most people have 
>> not seen so many documentaries that they know the details of every 
>> clip used to illustrate the story.
 
> I have no experience with audio books.
> So, I don't even know how to find them.
> Are they on youtube?

Hordes of them are torrentable and even more are on amazon etc. 

Any decent ebook reader can play the ebook to audio.  

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#58479

FromHorace Algier <horatio@horatio.net>
Date2016-09-07 21:14 +0000
Message-ID<nqpvvq$n6s$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#58475
On Thu, 8 Sep 2016 04:40:18 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:

> Hordes of them are torrentable

I'll torrent a few directly to my mobile device and check them out.
What I read are *history* books mostly.
Stuff like what is described in this index:
http://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalogs/hup-brochure-2012-world-history.pdf

Autobiographies of world leaders also.

Running a quick search for "world history ebook", this pops up:
http://clintonlangham.com/torrent/5038517/world_History

It's in "txt" format though, which brings up a thought of looking for txt
to speech readers. 

I have never used a text-to-speech app for reading books (my Android
branded phone has a text-to-speech hands'free option though).

Do text-to-speech apps work reasonably well for large text books?

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#58483

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2016-09-08 09:47 +1000
Message-ID<e3bncoFsdhlU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#58479

"Horace Algier" <horatio@horatio.net> wrote in message 
news:nqpvvq$n6s$1@gioia.aioe.org...
> On Thu, 8 Sep 2016 04:40:18 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:
>
>> Hordes of them are torrentable
>
> I'll torrent a few directly to my mobile device and check them out.
> What I read are *history* books mostly.
> Stuff like what is described in this index:
> http://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalogs/hup-brochure-2012-world-history.pdf
>
> Autobiographies of world leaders also.
>
> Running a quick search for "world history ebook", this pops up:
> http://clintonlangham.com/torrent/5038517/world_History
>
> It's in "txt" format though, which brings up
> a thought of looking for txt to speech readers.

Any half way decent ebook reader will do that.

> I have never used a text-to-speech app for reading books (my Android
> branded phone has a text-to-speech hands'free option though).

> Do text-to-speech apps work reasonably well for large text books?

The ebook readers that read the books aloud do. 

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#58490

FromHorace Algier <horatio@horatio.net>
Date2016-09-08 02:00 +0000
Message-ID<nqqgo4$1cdm$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#58483
On Thu, 8 Sep 2016 09:47:25 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:

>> Do text-to-speech apps work reasonably well for large text books?
> 
> The ebook readers that read the books aloud do.

Got a suggestion for the best free ebook reader on either Android or iOS?

Googling, I find Lifehacker says its a Google app:
http://lifehacker.com/5875516/the-best-ereader-for-android

So does Gizmo's:
http://www.techsupportalert.com/content/best-free-ebook-reader-android.htm

And Getstuff:
http://getandroidstuff.com/best-ebook-reader-android-top-5-free-apps-for-epub-and-pdf/

I had googled for 'best free ebook reader' and only Android apps popped up,
so, looking for iOS specifically I find:

Gizmo's says it's the "Kindle Q":
http://www.techsupportalert.com/content/best-free-ebook-reader-ios.htm

Do you concur?

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#58493

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2016-09-08 12:13 +1000
Message-ID<e3bvquFu4emU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#58490
Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote

>>> Do text-to-speech apps work reasonably well for large text books?

>> The ebook readers that read the books aloud do.

> Got a suggestion for the best free ebook reader on either Android or iOS?

I prefer Kindle myself, but it likely wont appeal to you given that you
do need to register so that it can keep track of where you are up to
across all your devices so you can continue reading a particular book
at the point you got to previously when you stopped, on a different
device.

In your situation it would be very handy to have one that is fully
integrated with one of those fitness bands that can work out when
you are asleep, so it can stop playing and keep track of where you
got to before you dropped off. Technically difficult to do tho
without sensors on your head etc so it may not be available yet.

> Googling, I find Lifehacker says its a Google app:
> http://lifehacker.com/5875516/the-best-ereader-for-android

> So does Gizmo's:
> http://www.techsupportalert.com/content/best-free-ebook-reader-android.htm

> And Getstuff:
> http://getandroidstuff.com/best-ebook-reader-android-top-5-free-apps-for-epub-and-pdf/

> I had googled for 'best free ebook reader' and only Android apps popped 
> up,
> so, looking for iOS specifically I find:

> Gizmo's says it's the "Kindle Q":
> http://www.techsupportalert.com/content/best-free-ebook-reader-ios.htm

> Do you concur?

Don’t use it myself because I use the real kindle app on iOS and Android and 
Win.

Its happy to use anything you torrent or download from one of the free sites 
like
Gutenberg, but works best if you register and logon because that allows it 
to keep
track of where you got up to in all your ebooks across all your devices that 
you
ever read an ebook on. 

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#58497

FromHorace Algier <horatio@horatio.net>
Date2016-09-08 03:10 +0000
Message-ID<nqqkr7$1gr5$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#58493
On Thu, 8 Sep 2016 12:13:46 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:

>> Got a suggestion for the best free ebook reader on either Android or iOS?
> 
> I prefer Kindle myself, but it likely wont appeal to you given that you
> do need to register so that it can keep track of where you are up to
> across all your devices so you can continue reading a particular book
> at the point you got to previously when you stopped, on a different
> device.

Ah. Thanks. You know me well. There's no need to *register* to read an
ebook, so, I agree, it doesn't appeal to me in the least.

Registration is a MARKETING ploy.
I downloaded from F-Droid the EPUB3 Reader from MIT, version 1.0.

It says the EPUB format is the de-facto open format for free ebooks.
It doesn't need a registration and it's free.

It doesn't do anything though, because I don't have any ebooks. :)

> Don┤ use it myself because I use the real kindle app on iOS and Android and 
> Win.
> 
> Its happy to use anything you torrent or download from one of the free sites 
> like
> Gutenberg, but works best if you register and logon because that allows it 
> to keep
> track of where you got up to in all your ebooks across all your devices that 
> you
> ever read an ebook on.

I get along just fine without registering for, say, Google Maps or Youtube,
so, I should get along fine if the free Kindle ebook app allows me to NOT
register and if it reads all formats.

I don't have Google Play installed, but F-Droid didn't have the Kindle app,
so, I temporarily installed Google Play and made up a temporary
one-time-only Google account name and then downloaded the Kindle app from
Amazon Mobile LLC (package name = com.amazon.kindle).

The app installed version 7.2.0.27 into /data/app/com.amazon.kindle-1.apk
and the data directory it created was /data/data/com.amazon.kindle but, as
you noted, it doesn't seem to work without requiring a registration.

I couldn't skip past it, so I deleted both Kindle and Google Play.

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#58500

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2016-09-08 13:41 +1000
Message-ID<e3c57oFnfnU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#58497
Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote

>>> Got a suggestion for the best free ebook reader on either Android or 
>>> iOS?

>> I prefer Kindle myself, but it likely wont appeal to you given that you
>> do need to register so that it can keep track of where you are up to
>> across all your devices so you can continue reading a particular book at
>> the point you got to previously when you stopped, on a different device.

> Ah. Thanks. You know me well. There's no need to *register* to
> read an ebook, so, I agree, it doesn't appeal to me in the least.

OTOH it should work fine without registering if you arent getting
the ebooks from amazon and don’t need to have it keep track
of where you are up to in the ebooks you are reading across
a variety of devices you have the ebooks read to you on.

Since you go to sleep with the ebook reader still reading
the ebook to you, you have to keep track of where you
got up before you dropped off yourself anyway.

> Registration is a MARKETING ploy.

Nope, it is essential for keeping track of where you got up
to in the ebooks you are reading across the devices you use
to read ebooks on and to keep track of what FREE ebooks
you have got from Amazon.

> I downloaded from F-Droid the EPUB3 Reader from MIT, version 1.0.

> It says the EPUB format is the de-facto open format for free ebooks.
> It doesn't need a registration and it's free.

Just as true of Kindle.

> It doesn't do anything though, because I don't have any ebooks. :)

Trivially fixable. Plenty are torrentable and on Gutenberg etc.

>> Don't use it myself because I use the real
>> kindle app on iOS and Android and Win.

>> Its happy to use anything you torrent or download from
>> one of the free sites like Gutenberg, but works best if you
>> register and logon because that allows it to keep track of
>> where you got up to in all your ebooks across all your
>> devices that you ever read an ebook on.

> I get along just fine without registering for, say, Google Maps or 
> Youtube,

Sure, the main downside with not doing that with google maps
is that it doesn’t allow you to have it remember your home location
or offer you one of the places you have navigated to before so
you only have to type a few letters to have it offer you the same
place again the next time you need to navigate to there.

With youtube you can't upload your own private videos.
That is a quite useful way of allowing others to watch
the videos you have produced without having to give
them something physical like a USB stick etc, particularly
if you are too stupid to ever use a cloud.

And that's another thing bit of FUNCTIONALITY that
iOS has that androids don’t. If you choose to email
a video to someone, it offers to put it on their cloud
and just have the link to that in the email.

> so, I should get along fine if the free Kindle ebook app
> allows me to NOT register and if it reads all formats.

Doesn’t really need to be able to read all formats, its
trivial to convert formats with Calibre which does run
on linux and all the other major desktop OSs and is free.

> I don't have Google Play installed, but F-Droid didn't have the Kindle
> app, so, I temporarily installed Google Play and made up a temporary
> one-time-only Google account name and then downloaded the Kindle
> app from Amazon Mobile LLC (package name = com.amazon.kindle).

Mad when you want to have the ebooks read to you on your ipads.

> The app installed version 7.2.0.27 into /data/app/com.amazon.kindle-1.apk
> and the data directory it created was /data/data/com.amazon.kindle but, as
> you noted, it doesn't seem to work without requiring a registration.

It does actually with ebooks that you have on your device.

> I couldn't skip past it, so I deleted both Kindle and Google Play.

 

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#58503

FromAL <noemail@none.invalid.com>
Date2016-09-07 21:31 -0700
Message-ID<nqqphm$bfh$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#58500
On 9/7/2016 8:41 PM, Rod Speed wrote:

> OTOH it should work fine without registering if you arent getting
> the ebooks from amazon

Amazon apps require registration before they will run. After 
registration you can directly put you own non-Amazon ebooks in the apps 
reading folder and they can be read.


> and don’t need to have it keep track
> of where you are up to in the ebooks you are reading across
> a variety of devices you have the ebooks read to you on.

Google Play Books will let you upload your own books and they do keep 
synced across all devices. However they say they remove any copyright 
violations. If true that may eliminate any stolen ebooks. (Course Google 
also requires registration.)


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#58508

FromHorace Algier <horatio@horatio.net>
Date2016-09-08 10:51 +0000
Message-ID<nqrfsb$pmg$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#58503
On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 21:31:00 -0700, AL wrote:

>> OTOH it should work fine without registering if you arent getting
>> the ebooks from amazon
> 
> Amazon apps require registration before they will run. After 
> registration you can directly put you own non-Amazon ebooks in the apps 
> reading folder and they can be read.

That was my experience with this com.amazon.kindle app just now.
It wouldn't do anything unless/until I registered, which I didn't do (as I
never register for anything other than email, and only then, because I have
to no matter what MUA I use).

I can easily understand why the Amazon LLC MARKETING team wants us to
register, but there's nothing inherent in reading an ebook that requires
registration just like there's nothing inherent in a flashlight app that
requires access to my contact list.

>> and don┤ need to have it keep track
>> of where you are up to in the ebooks you are reading across
>> a variety of devices you have the ebooks read to you on.
> 
> Google Play Books will let you upload your own books and they do keep 
> synced across all devices. However they say they remove any copyright 
> violations. If true that may eliminate any stolen ebooks. (Course Google 
> also requires registration.)

I think the freeware epub player from MIT should work just fine.

I have to work on getting some books now as I read history and
autobiographies all the time so, those are the types I will be looking out
for.

Autobiography of Benjamin Franklin
http://www.bookrix.com/_ebook-benjamin-franklin-autobiography-of-benjamin-franklin/

Life and Public Services of John Quincy Adams
http://www.bookrix.com/_ebook-william-h-seward-life-and-public-services-of-john-quincy-adams/

Theodore Roosevelt: An Autobiography
http://www.loyalbooks.com/book/t-roosevelt-autobiography

Being unfamiliar with ebook formats, is there a particular format that is
preferable or something to watch out for that a naive person such as I am
currently on this format should watch out for?

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#58512

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2016-09-09 05:21 +1000
Message-ID<e3ds13Fdfl6U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#58508
Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> wrote
> AL wrote

>>> OTOH it should work fine without registering
>>> if you arent getting the ebooks from amazon

>> Amazon apps require registration before they will run.
>> After registration you can directly put you own non-Amazon
>> ebooks in the apps reading folder and they can be read.

> That was my experience with this com.amazon.kindle app just now.
> It wouldn't do anything unless/until I registered, which I didn't do
> (as I never register for anything other than email,

That's a lie with your library and car etc. And with flying in spades.

> and only then, because I have to no matter what MUA I use).

> I can easily understand why the Amazon LLC MARKETING
> team wants us to register, but there's nothing inherent in
> reading an ebook that requires registration

Wrong when you have enough of a clue to have it keep track of
where you got up to in all your ebooks across all your devices.

> just like there's nothing inherent in a flashlight
> app that requires access to my contact list.

Nothing even remotely like in fact.

And that's another thing that iOS does that android doesn’t,
have the flashlight built in so you don’t need to add one.

>>> and don¢t need to have it keep track of where you are
>>> up to in the ebooks you are reading across a variety of
>>> devices you have the ebooks read to you on.

>> Google Play Books will let you upload your own books and
>> they do keep synced across all devices. However they say they
>> remove any copyright violations. If true that may eliminate
>> any stolen ebooks. (Course Google also requires registration.)

> I think the freeware epub player from MIT should work just fine.

> I have to work on getting some books now as
> I read history and autobiographies all the time
> so, those are the types I will be looking out for.

There are lots of those on amazon for free, but you do have
to register to get those, just like you do  with your library.

Makes a lot more sense to get them from amazon
than to get your library to get them for you from
amazon. Either way there is a record of you having
access to them so you might as well cut to the
chase and get them directly from amazon yourself.

> Autobiography of Benjamin Franklin
> http://www.bookrix.com/_ebook-benjamin-franklin-autobiography-of-benjamin-franklin/

> Life and Public Services of John Quincy Adams
> http://www.bookrix.com/_ebook-william-h-seward-life-and-public-services-of-john-quincy-adams/

> Theodore Roosevelt: An Autobiography
> http://www.loyalbooks.com/book/t-roosevelt-autobiography

Tons of that stuff available on amazon for free.

> Being unfamiliar with ebook formats, is there a particular format
> that is preferable or something to watch out for that a naive
> person such as I am currently on this format should watch out for?

Not really. The two main ones are pretty much of a muchness.

Lot to be said for something better than plain text files, particularly
with the sort of ebooks you are interested in where footnotes are
common. The two main ebook formats handle those a lot more
conveniently than a simple text file does.

pdfs arent handled as well as the ebook reader's native format either.

I prefer the kindle UI but like most UI stuff,
that is very much personal preference stuff.

Format wise its pretty academic because Calibre, which is free and
runs on all the important desktop OSs will convert between them. 

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#58516

FromHorace Algier <horatio@horatio.net>
Date2016-09-08 23:13 +0000
Message-ID<nqsrai$1596$3@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#58512
On Fri, 9 Sep 2016 05:21:04 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:

> Format wise its pretty academic because Calibre, which is free and
> runs on all the important desktop OSs will convert between them.

Thanks for that conversion advice.

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#58504

FromAL <noemail@none.invalid.com>
Date2016-09-07 21:31 -0700
Message-ID<nqqphp$bfh$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#58497
On 9/7/2016 8:10 PM, Horace Algier wrote:

> I get along just fine without registering for, say, Google Maps or
> Youtube, so, I should get along fine if the free Kindle ebook app
> allows me to NOT register and if it reads all formats.

If you register to read library books why not register to use the Kindle
app? (BTW many libraries have free ebooks for loan.)

> I temporarily installed Google Play and made up a temporary
> one-time-only Google account name and then downloaded the Kindle app
> from Amazon Mobile LLC (package name = com.amazon.kindle).

Seems like a lot of work. Easier to just download the app from the
Amazon website on your PC (or Mac) and sideload it.

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#58510

FromHorace Algier <horatio@horatio.net>
Date2016-09-08 11:37 +0000
Message-ID<nqrih5$u7s$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#58504
On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 21:31:03 -0700, AL wrote:

>> I get along just fine without registering for, say, Google Maps or
>> Youtube, so, I should get along fine if the free Kindle ebook app
>> allows me to NOT register and if it reads all formats.
> 
> If you register to read library books why not register to use the Kindle
> app? (BTW many libraries have free ebooks for loan.)

It's actually pretty simple my not-registering algorithm.

It's the same algorithm you probably use for not paying taxes.

If there's no inherent need to register, and if a
non-registration-requiring app exists and works, then you use the
non-registration-requiring app.

While I'm sure the flashlight-app marketing people would love for you to
register, there's no reason a flashlight app requires registration, for
example.

Same with an ebook reader.

If it's functionality that exists sans registration, than that is a plus
for whatever tool provides that service (just as it's a minus for any tool
that requires it).

>> I temporarily installed Google Play and made up a temporary
>> one-time-only Google account name and then downloaded the Kindle app
>> from Amazon Mobile LLC (package name = com.amazon.kindle).
> 
> Seems like a lot of work. Easier to just download the app from the
> Amazon website on your PC (or Mac) and sideload it.

While I only have the MIT epub reader on Android in my "books" folder, I
already seem to have these four apps on the iPad in my "books" folder:
http://i.cubeupload.com/aB3iDJ.jpg

Here's a screenshot of what is currently "in" each of these four apps:
1. Overdrive ( http://i.cubeupload.com/r31P6g.jpg )
2. Bluefire Reader ( http://i.cubeupload.com/Zozxvb.png )
3. Freading ( http://i.cubeupload.com/GMPCFA.jpg )
4. iBooks ( http://i.cubeupload.com/tFA0KQ.jpg )

I don't remember where these apps came from but these apps were probably
put on there quite some time ago by the kids (who mostly use the iPads).
None seem to ask me to register, but the kids may have registered them (I
can't tell).

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#58513

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2016-09-09 05:32 +1000
Message-ID<e3dslnFdkdkU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#58510
Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> wrote
> AL wrote

>>> I get along just fine without registering for, say, Google Maps
>>> or Youtube, so, I should get along fine if the free Kindle ebook
>>> app allows me to NOT register and if it reads all formats.

>> If you register to read library books why not register to use the
>> Kindle app? (BTW many libraries have free ebooks for loan.)

> It's actually pretty simple my not-registering algorithm.

And as stupid as most of the way you do things.

> It's the same algorithm you probably use for not paying taxes.

Wrong.

> If there's no inherent need to register,

There is with an ebook reader. Doing that
means that it will keep track of where you
are up to in all your ebooks and where you
have read already right across all your devices.

> and if a non-registration-requiring app exists and works,

Hardly ever as well as the best ebook readers.

> then you use the non-registration-requiring app.

I'm not that stupid personally.

> While I'm sure the flashlight-app marketing people
> would love for you to register, there's no reason a
> flashlight app requires registration, for example.

iOS has the flashlight built in so the whole question
doesn’t arise.

> Same with an ebook reader.

Nothing even remotely like the same in fact.

> If it's functionality that exists sans registration,

It can't with ebook readers that keep track of where
you are up to in all your ebooks and what you have
read previously unless your devices use a cloud and
you are too stupid to to that too.

> than that is a plus for whatever tool provides that service
> (just as it's a minus for any tool that requires it).

Wrong, as always when it isnt even possible
with ebook readers without using a cloud.

Corse some are actually stupid enough to manually move the
file that contains the record of where you got up to in all your
ebooks and which ebooks you have read, between all your
devices, but hardly anyone except you is actually THAT stupid.

>>> I temporarily installed Google Play and made up a temporary
>>> one-time-only Google account name and then downloaded the Kindle
>>> app from Amazon Mobile LLC (package name = com.amazon.kindle).

>> Seems like a lot of work. Easier to just download the app from
>> the Amazon website on your PC (or Mac) and sideload it.

> While I only have the MIT epub reader on Android in my "books" folder,
> I already seem to have these four apps on the iPad in my "books" folder:
> http://i.cubeupload.com/aB3iDJ.jpg

> Here's a screenshot of what is currently "in" each of these four apps:
> 1. Overdrive ( http://i.cubeupload.com/r31P6g.jpg )
> 2. Bluefire Reader ( http://i.cubeupload.com/Zozxvb.png )
> 3. Freading ( http://i.cubeupload.com/GMPCFA.jpg )
> 4. iBooks ( http://i.cubeupload.com/tFA0KQ.jpg )

iOS also has an ebook reader built in.

> I don't remember where these apps came from but these apps
> were probably put on there quite some time ago by the kids
> (who mostly use the iPads). None seem to ask me to register,
> but the kids may have registered them (I can't tell).

Then you need to smash those ipads to preserve your privacy. 

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#58521

FromGordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid>
Date2016-09-10 01:16 +1000
Message-ID<iqj5tbt2eoseal5ik0fk3g8tna90e62un0@4ax.com>
In reply to#58466
Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> wrote:

>On Thu, 08 Sep 2016 01:38:36 +1000, Gordon Levi wrote:
>
>> I get it. You want film makers to make truly boring documentaries that
>> will put everyone to sleep. Why not go to sleep with a good audio
>> book? A book will provide the detail that you seem to want and the
>> rest of us can watch an absorbing video. Most people have not seen so
>> many documentaries that they know the details of every clip used to
>> illustrate the story.
>
>I have no experience with audio books.
>So, I don't even know how to find them.

Gutenberg is the place to go for free books. That includes audio books
<https://www.gutenberg.org/browse/categories/1>. Your local library
almost certainly has them too but you they may not be available in a
format that suits your player.
>Are they on youtube?

Yes but I'll leave you to do the search.

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#58525

FromHorace Algier <horatio@horatio.net>
Date2016-09-09 18:00 +0000
Message-ID<nqutcj$c66$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#58521
On Sat, 10 Sep 2016 01:16:59 +1000, Gordon Levi wrote:

> Gutenberg is the place to go for free books. That includes audio books
> <https://www.gutenberg.org/browse/categories/1>. Your local library
> almost certainly has them too but you they may not be available in a
> format that suits your player.
>>Are they on youtube?
> 
> Yes but I'll leave you to do the search.

Thanks for the pointer.
Remember, the whole point is the *audio*, not the book, per se.
So the *player* has to have the capability of reading out the text in the
background with the screen turned off.

That's what this thread is about, after all.

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#58542

FromGordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid>
Date2016-09-10 19:27 +1000
Message-ID<h9i7tbhta27unop5878bbf25ag5vadg9a3@4ax.com>
In reply to#58525
Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> wrote:

>On Sat, 10 Sep 2016 01:16:59 +1000, Gordon Levi wrote:
>
>> Gutenberg is the place to go for free books. That includes audio books
>> <https://www.gutenberg.org/browse/categories/1>. Your local library
>> almost certainly has them too but you they may not be available in a
>> format that suits your player.
>>>Are they on youtube?
>> 
>> Yes but I'll leave you to do the search.
>
>Thanks for the pointer.
>Remember, the whole point is the *audio*, not the book, per se.

Audio books are, by definition, audio. The problem with audio books
from your local library is that they will probably be DRM encoded.
That means that you will either need to break the DRM or use their
application for listening to them. That application will be free but
will ensure that you "return" the book on time.
>So the *player* has to have the capability of reading out the text 

I think the computer conversion of text to speech will not meet your
needs. Start with real audio books that have been "converted" by a
human, preferably a human whose voice you like. TTS will result in a
dreary tone that could put you to sleep but you will be startled every
few minutes by the gross, often comic, mispronunciation of names that
you are familiar with.
>
> in the background with the screen turned off.
> That's what this thread is about, after all.

I assume you already have an audio player that allows you to listen
without having anything on the screen.

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#58545

FromRicardo Jimenez <rickyjim@earthlink.net>
Date2016-09-10 10:18 -0400
Message-ID<c758tb9aej0bnhh8rffq934a9c8m41emaa@4ax.com>
In reply to#58521
On Sat, 10 Sep 2016 01:16:59 +1000, Gordon Levi
<gordon@address.invalid> wrote:

>Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 08 Sep 2016 01:38:36 +1000, Gordon Levi wrote:
>>
>>> I get it. You want film makers to make truly boring documentaries that
>>> will put everyone to sleep. Why not go to sleep with a good audio
>>> book? A book will provide the detail that you seem to want and the
>>> rest of us can watch an absorbing video. Most people have not seen so
>>> many documentaries that they know the details of every clip used to
>>> illustrate the story.
>>
>>I have no experience with audio books.
>>So, I don't even know how to find them.
>
>Gutenberg is the place to go for free books. That includes audio books
><https://www.gutenberg.org/browse/categories/1>. Your local library
>almost certainly has them too but you they may not be available in a
>format that suits your player.
>>Are they on youtube?
>
>Yes but I'll leave you to do the search.

Gutenberg has audiobooks?  I think not.  You maybe thinking of
Librivox: https://librivox.org/  Also, you can easily locate a free
software service that will convert from youtube format to mp3 which is
what most audioplayers, hardware and software, easily handle.  

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#58548

FromGordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid>
Date2016-09-11 00:56 +1000
Message-ID<9278tbl2aqh1dkot5p4a6f5hopae3m5vae@4ax.com>
In reply to#58545
Ricardo Jimenez <rickyjim@earthlink.net> wrote:

>On Sat, 10 Sep 2016 01:16:59 +1000, Gordon Levi
><gordon@address.invalid> wrote:
>
>>Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 08 Sep 2016 01:38:36 +1000, Gordon Levi wrote:
>>>
>>>> I get it. You want film makers to make truly boring documentaries that
>>>> will put everyone to sleep. Why not go to sleep with a good audio
>>>> book? A book will provide the detail that you seem to want and the
>>>> rest of us can watch an absorbing video. Most people have not seen so
>>>> many documentaries that they know the details of every clip used to
>>>> illustrate the story.
>>>
>>>I have no experience with audio books.
>>>So, I don't even know how to find them.
>>
>>Gutenberg is the place to go for free books. That includes audio books
>><https://www.gutenberg.org/browse/categories/1>. Your local library
>>almost certainly has them too but you they may not be available in a
>>format that suits your player.
>>>Are they on youtube?
>>
>>Yes but I'll leave you to do the search.
>
>Gutenberg has audiobooks?  I think not.

Your thinking failure is your problem but in this case there was no
need to think. All you had to do to find Gutenberg's audio books was
to follow the link that I thoughtfully(!) provided.
>  You maybe thinking of
>Librivox: https://librivox.org/  Also, you can easily locate a free
>software service that will convert from youtube format to mp3 which is
>what most audioplayers, hardware and software, easily handle.  

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