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| Started by | Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> |
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| First post | 2015-04-09 14:00 +0000 |
| Last post | 2015-04-13 21:51 +0000 |
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back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-09 14:00 +0000
Re: back from the brink nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-09 10:06 -0400
Re: back from the brink jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-10 02:47 +1300
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-09 15:56 +0000
Re: back from the brink Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-09 16:13 +0000
Re: back from the brink Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-09 17:14 +0000
Re: back from the brink Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-09 17:34 +0000
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-09 19:24 +0000
Re: back from the brink Paul F Austin <pfaustin@bellsouth.net> - 2015-04-09 16:15 -0400
Re: back from the brink Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-04-10 08:56 +1200
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-09 21:20 +0000
Re: back from the brink Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-09 22:39 +0000
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-10 01:30 +0000
Re: back from the brink Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-10 11:50 +0000
Re: back from the brink "D. Spencer Hines" <d_spencerhines@america.com> - 2015-05-09 13:12 -1000
Re: back from the brink jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-10 13:06 +1300
Re: back from the brink Paul F Austin <pfaustin@bellsouth.net> - 2015-04-11 17:19 -0400
Re: back from the brink jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-12 14:09 +1300
Re: back from the brink nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-11 22:23 -0400
Re: back from the brink "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@kb.invalid> - 2015-04-12 07:56 -0700
Re: back from the brink nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-12 11:16 -0400
Re: back from the brink "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@kb.invalid> - 2015-04-12 08:24 -0700
Re: back from the brink nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-12 11:33 -0400
Re: back from the brink Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-12 15:52 +0000
Re: back from the brink Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-12 16:57 +0100
Re: back from the brink "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@kb.invalid> - 2015-04-12 10:28 -0700
Re: back from the brink Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-12 19:14 +0100
Re: back from the brink "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@kb.invalid> - 2015-04-12 11:47 -0700
Re: back from the brink Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-12 23:37 +0000
Re: back from the brink Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2015-04-13 15:01 +1200
Re: back from the brink Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2015-04-13 05:32 +0000
Re: back from the brink Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-13 10:15 +0100
Re: back from the brink Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2015-04-14 10:39 +1200
Re: back from the brink Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-13 13:48 +0000
Re: back from the brink Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2015-04-14 10:40 +1200
Re: back from the brink Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-14 09:30 +0100
Re: back from the brink Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2015-04-14 21:16 +1200
Re: back from the brink jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-14 22:15 +1300
Re: back from the brink dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-04-14 21:57 +1000
Re: back from the brink jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-15 13:12 +1300
Re: back from the brink Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-14 12:51 +0000
Re: back from the brink Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2015-04-15 11:04 +1200
Re: back from the brink Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-14 23:10 +0000
Re: back from the brink Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2015-04-15 21:56 +1200
Re: back from the brink Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-15 12:53 +0000
Re: back from the brink Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2015-04-16 09:15 +1200
Re: back from the brink dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-04-16 08:02 +1000
Re: back from the brink Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-15 22:49 +0000
Re: back from the brink Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2015-04-16 12:38 +1200
Re: back from the brink Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-16 13:29 +0000
Re: back from the brink Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2015-04-17 10:34 +1200
Re: back from the brink Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-16 23:10 +0000
Re: back from the brink Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-15 18:02 +0100
Re: back from the brink "zulu" <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> - 2015-04-15 21:31 +0100
Re: back from the brink Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2015-04-16 09:16 +1200
Re: back from the brink jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-16 17:28 +1300
Re: back from the brink Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2015-04-16 21:30 +1200
Re: back from the brink jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-13 08:49 +1300
Re: back from the brink Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-04-12 09:58 +0000
Re: back from the brink jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-13 00:06 +1300
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-12 14:41 +0000
Re: back from the brink Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-05-10 02:45 +0000
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-09 19:24 +0000
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-09 19:24 +0000
Re: back from the brink Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-09 21:39 +0000
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-10 01:30 +0000
Re: back from the brink nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-09 22:53 -0400
Re: back from the brink Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> - 2015-04-10 13:45 +0100
Re: back from the brink nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-09 12:46 -0400
Re: back from the brink David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2015-04-09 12:44 -0500
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-09 19:24 +0000
Re: back from the brink nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-09 17:08 -0400
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-09 21:20 +0000
Re: back from the brink nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-09 17:23 -0400
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-10 01:30 +0000
Re: back from the brink nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-09 22:53 -0400
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-10 20:37 +0000
Re: back from the brink David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2015-04-10 17:30 -0500
Re: back from the brink Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-10 18:55 -0400
Re: back from the brink David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2015-04-10 19:55 -0500
Re: back from the brink jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-10 18:28 +1300
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-10 20:37 +0000
Re: back from the brink jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-11 18:13 +1300
Re: back from the brink Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-11 11:18 +0000
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-11 14:14 +0000
Re: back from the brink David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2015-04-09 16:08 -0500
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-09 21:20 +0000
Re: back from the brink Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-09 22:34 +0000
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-10 01:30 +0000
Re: back from the brink jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-10 13:06 +1300
Re: back from the brink dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-04-10 15:21 +1200
Re: back from the brink jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-10 18:32 +1300
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-10 20:37 +0000
Re: back from the brink jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-11 18:13 +1300
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-11 14:14 +0000
Re: back from the brink Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-11 15:35 +0000
Re: back from the brink Zaidy036 <Zaidy036@isp.spam> - 2015-04-11 16:06 +0000
Re: back from the brink David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2015-04-11 16:28 -0500
Re: back from the brink jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-10 13:06 +1300
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-10 01:30 +0000
Re: back from the brink nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-09 22:53 -0400
Re: back from the brink dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-04-10 15:21 +1200
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-10 20:37 +0000
Re: back from the brink jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-10 12:52 +1300
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-10 01:30 +0000
Re: back from the brink nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-09 22:53 -0400
Re: back from the brink Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2015-04-10 19:58 +1200
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-10 20:37 +0000
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-10 20:37 +0000
Re: back from the brink Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-10 22:44 +0100
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-11 02:47 +0000
Re: back from the brink Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-11 09:40 +0100
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-11 14:14 +0000
Re: back from the brink Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-11 17:31 +0100
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-12 14:40 +0000
Re: Back From The Brink "D. Spencer Hines" <d_spencerhines@america.com> - 2015-04-12 04:44 -1000
Re: Back From The Brink Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-04-12 14:53 +0000
Re: back from the brink Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-12 16:53 +0100
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-12 21:56 +0000
Re: back from the brink Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2015-04-12 17:05 +0000
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-12 21:56 +0000
Re: back from the brink Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2015-04-12 22:15 +0000
Re: back from the brink nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-12 18:42 -0400
Re: back from the brink Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2015-04-13 05:30 +0000
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-13 21:51 +0000
Re: back from the brink "JohnT" <johnT@spamnot.com> - 2015-04-09 18:22 +0100
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-09 19:24 +0000
Re: back from the brink "tim....." <tims_new_home@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-04-10 13:03 +0100
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-10 20:37 +0000
Re: back from the brink "tim....." <tims_new_home@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-04-11 11:01 +0100
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-11 14:14 +0000
Re: back from the brink "tim....." <tims_new_home@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-04-11 15:38 +0100
Re: back from the brink Aldo Raine <apache@scalpem.net> - 2015-04-10 08:25 -0400
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-10 20:37 +0000
Re: back from the brink John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-04-10 20:32 -0700
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-11 14:14 +0000
Re: back from the brink poldy <poldy@kfu.com> - 2015-04-13 11:09 -0700
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-13 21:51 +0000
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-04-09 22:53 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <090420152253103677%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #48085 |
In article <1562197710450321820.421739drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-septembe r.org>, Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote: > >> The iPad WAS backed up to the old laptop running SnowLeopard. > > > > So where are your iPad backups and your backups of the iTunes data > > containing the iPad backup, now? > > OLD laptop! restore the ipad with that then. problem solved.
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| From | dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) |
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| Date | 2015-04-10 15:21 +1200 |
| Message-ID | <1m2o4sy.d79zcp1j8qtmrN%dempson@actrix.gen.nz> |
| In reply to | #48085 |
Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote: > Jamie Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote: > > Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote: > > > > [snip] > >> Backups were to computer, not iCloud. And the iPad problems occurred AFTER > >> spending the morning before on the phone with Apple dealing with Yosemite > >> problems. > >> The iPad WAS backed up to the old laptop running SnowLeopard. > > > > So where are your iPad backups and your backups of the iTunes data > > containing the iPad backup, now? > > OLD laptop! If that backup hasn't been replaced, you can copy it to the new laptop and then use it to restore the iPad from backup. The easiest way to locate the backup on the old computer is: 1. Run iTunes. 2. Go into Preferences (in the bold iTunes menu). 3. Click on the Devices category. 4. Locate the backup you want. Make a note of its date/time. 5. Control-click or right click on it and choose Show in Finder. This will reveal a folder called Backups, with one or more subfolders with non-obvious names containing lots of alphanumeric characters. The one which is highlighted is the backup you want. That highlighted folder (with its complex name) needs to be copied to the new computer. I suggest copying that folder to the desktop on the new computer, then moving it to the right place. Before moving the folder, if iTunes is running on the new computer, quit it. The location to which the folder needs to be copied for recent iTunes and OS X versions is: ~/Library/Application Support/MobileSync/Backup That's the Library folder inside your home folder: in recent OS X versions you can get to it in Finder by holding down the Option key, clicking on the Go menu and choosing Library. Then go into the Application Support subfolder, then into MobileSync, then into Backup. Once you are in the Backup folder, you can drag the copy of the backup from the desktop. After the backup is in the right place, run iTunes again, connect the iPad and tell iTunes to do a restore, this time picking the copied backup from the list (identified by its date/time). -- David Empson dempson@actrix.gen.nz
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| From | Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> |
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| Date | 2015-04-10 20:37 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <596097948450390842.462804drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #48091 |
David Empson <dempson@actrix.gen.nz> wrote: > Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote: > >> Jamie Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote: >>> Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote: >>> >>> [snip] >>>> Backups were to computer, not iCloud. And the iPad problems occurred AFTER >>>> spending the morning before on the phone with Apple dealing with Yosemite >>>> problems. >>>> The iPad WAS backed up to the old laptop running SnowLeopard. >>> >>> So where are your iPad backups and your backups of the iTunes data >>> containing the iPad backup, now? >> >> OLD laptop! > > If that backup hasn't been replaced, you can copy it to the new laptop > and then use it to restore the iPad from backup. > > The easiest way to locate the backup on the old computer is: > > 1. Run iTunes. > 2. Go into Preferences (in the bold iTunes menu). > 3. Click on the Devices category. > 4. Locate the backup you want. Make a note of its date/time. > 5. Control-click or right click on it and choose Show in Finder. > > This will reveal a folder called Backups, with one or more subfolders > with non-obvious names containing lots of alphanumeric characters. The > one which is highlighted is the backup you want. That highlighted folder > (with its complex name) needs to be copied to the new computer. > > I suggest copying that folder to the desktop on the new computer, then > moving it to the right place. > > Before moving the folder, if iTunes is running on the new computer, quit > it. > > The location to which the folder needs to be copied for recent iTunes > and OS X versions is: > > ~/Library/Application Support/MobileSync/Backup > > That's the Library folder inside your home folder: in recent OS X > versions you can get to it in Finder by holding down the Option key, > clicking on the Go menu and choosing Library. Then go into the > Application Support subfolder, then into MobileSync, then into Backup. > > Once you are in the Backup folder, you can drag the copy of the backup > from the desktop. > > After the backup is in the right place, run iTunes again, connect the > iPad and tell iTunes to do a restore, this time picking the copied > backup from the list (identified by its date/time). Saved this to my mail for when I get my nerve back 8-) -- biblioholic medievalist
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| From | jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) |
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| Date | 2015-04-10 12:52 +1300 |
| Message-ID | <1m2nyd6.hm8pk5dqzh23N%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> |
| In reply to | #48050 |
Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote: > nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: > > In article > > <553643483450280509.999995drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-september. > >> , Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote: > > > >> I'm battling back from disaster-- almost all my apps on the iPad were wiped > >> clean of all data somewhere in the middle of the nasty battle with a new > >> computer with the worst OS I've ever had to deal with: Yosemite. I now have > >> to clear away the old posts here to get up to date before I leave home on > >> my yearly trip combo and have only Newstap on the iPad with me. > > > > only because itunes asked if you wanted to delete them and you said > > yes. you apparently did not migrate the old system to the new computer, > > so itunes saw it as a different computer. > > It WAS migrated by someone much more capable than I, but I did something > wrong on the backup attempt. And what happened to your backups of the iTunes data from your older machine? What happened to the older computer itself, with it's data? -- If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
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| From | Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> |
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| Date | 2015-04-10 01:30 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <633961960450321847.455104drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #48076 |
Jamie Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote: > Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote: > >> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: >>> In article >>> <553643483450280509.999995drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-september. >>>> , Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote: >>> >>>> I'm battling back from disaster-- almost all my apps on the iPad were wiped >>>> clean of all data somewhere in the middle of the nasty battle with a new >>>> computer with the worst OS I've ever had to deal with: Yosemite. I now have >>>> to clear away the old posts here to get up to date before I leave home on >>>> my yearly trip combo and have only Newstap on the iPad with me. >>> >>> only because itunes asked if you wanted to delete them and you said >>> yes. you apparently did not migrate the old system to the new computer, >>> so itunes saw it as a different computer. >> >> It WAS migrated by someone much more capable than I, but I did something >> wrong on the backup attempt. > > And what happened to your backups of the iTunes data from your older > machine? What happened to the older computer itself, with it's data? I'm using it for foto editing and newsgroups not in Newstap on the iPad. It couldn't restore the app data because the new machine had dumped them and it restored them empty. -- biblioholic medievalist
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-04-09 22:53 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <090420152253093631%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #48084 |
In article <633961960450321847.455104drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-september. org>, Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote: > > And what happened to your backups of the iTunes data from your older > > machine? What happened to the older computer itself, with it's data? > > I'm using it for foto editing and newsgroups not in Newstap on the iPad. It > couldn't restore the app data because the new machine had dumped them and > it restored them empty. so what? do another full restore, this time from your actual backup, which will wipe the emptiness and restore your apps and data.
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| From | Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> |
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| Date | 2015-04-10 19:58 +1200 |
| Message-ID | <6i0fia1tf7abbte8l2a2ad1sngfd4hs9nh@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #48086 |
On Thu, 09 Apr 2015 22:53:09 -0400, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: >In article ><633961960450321847.455104drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-september. >org>, Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote: > >> > And what happened to your backups of the iTunes data from your older >> > machine? What happened to the older computer itself, with it's data? >> >> I'm using it for foto editing and newsgroups not in Newstap on the iPad. It >> couldn't restore the app data because the new machine had dumped them and >> it restored them empty. > >so what? do another full restore, this time from your actual backup, >which will wipe the emptiness and restore your apps and data. Enilar, I've known nospam for may years and have had many happy battles with him. There is one thing I can say: he knows what he is talking about. -- Regards, Eric Stevens
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| From | Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> |
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| Date | 2015-04-10 20:37 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <1867444068450389898.495159drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #48094 |
Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> wrote: > On Thu, 09 Apr 2015 22:53:09 -0400, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> > wrote: > >> In article >> <633961960450321847.455104drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-september. >>> , Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote: >> >>>> And what happened to your backups of the iTunes data from your older >>>> machine? What happened to the older computer itself, with it's data? >>> >>> I'm using it for foto editing and newsgroups not in Newstap on the iPad. It >>> couldn't restore the app data because the new machine had dumped them and >>> it restored them empty. >> >> so what? do another full restore, this time from your actual backup, >> which will wipe the emptiness and restore your apps and data. > > Enilar, I've known nospam for may years and have had many happy > battles with him. There is one thing I can say: he knows what he is > talking about. Yes, when he understands the problem, but the disaster was too great this time 8-( -- biblioholic medievalist
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| From | Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> |
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| Date | 2015-04-10 20:37 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <1008335472450389965.946460drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #48086 |
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: > In article > <633961960450321847.455104drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-september. >> , Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote: > >>> And what happened to your backups of the iTunes data from your older >>> machine? What happened to the older computer itself, with it's data? >> >> I'm using it for foto editing and newsgroups not in Newstap on the iPad. It >> couldn't restore the app data because the new machine had dumped them and >> it restored them empty. > > so what? do another full restore, this time from your actual backup, > which will wipe the emptiness and restore your apps and data. That's how I got the apps back, but they were empty. -- biblioholic medievalist
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| From | Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> |
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| Date | 2015-04-10 22:44 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <100420152244182465%timstreater@greenbee.net> |
| In reply to | #48106 |
In article <1008335472450389965.946460drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-septembe r.org>, Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote: >nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: >> In article >> <633961960450321847.455104drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-september. >>> , Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote: >> >>>> And what happened to your backups of the iTunes data from your older >>>> machine? What happened to the older computer itself, with it's data? >>> >>> I'm using it for foto editing and newsgroups not in Newstap on the iPad. It >>> couldn't restore the app data because the new machine had dumped them and >>> it restored them empty. >> >> so what? do another full restore, this time from your actual backup, >> which will wipe the emptiness and restore your apps and data. > >That's how I got the apps back, but they were empty. What is an "empty app" and how does it differ from a full one ?? -- Anyone who slaps a 'this page is best viewed with Browser X' label on a Web page appears to be yearning for the bad old days, before the Web, when you had very little chance of reading a document written on another computer, another word processor, or another network. -- Tim Berners-Lee
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| From | Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> |
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| Date | 2015-04-11 02:47 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <1170324403450413055.311288drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #48108 |
Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote: > In article > <1008335472450389965.946460drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-septembe > r.org>, Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote: > >> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: >>> In article >>> <633961960450321847.455104drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-september. >>>> , Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote: >>>>>>> And what happened to your backups of the iTunes data from your older >>>>> machine? What happened to the older computer itself, with it's data? >>>>>>> I'm using it for foto editing and newsgroups not in Newstap on the iPad. It >>>> couldn't restore the app data because the new machine had dumped them and >>>> it restored them empty. >>>>> so what? do another full restore, this time from your actual backup, >>> which will wipe the emptiness and restore your apps and data. >> >> That's how I got the apps back, but they were empty. > > What is an "empty app" and how does it differ from a full one ?? Think brand new, downloaded for the first time. Empty. -- biblioholic medievalist
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| From | Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> |
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| Date | 2015-04-11 09:40 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <110420150940018786%timstreater@greenbee.net> |
| In reply to | #48112 |
In article <1170324403450413055.311288drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-septembe r.org>, Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote: >Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote: >> In article >> <1008335472450389965.946460drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-septembe >> r.org>, Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote: >> >>> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: >>>> In article >>>> <633961960450321847.455104drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-september. >>>>> , Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote: >>>>>>>> And what happened to your backups of the iTunes data from your older >>>>>> machine? What happened to the older computer itself, with it's data? >>>>>>>> I'm using it for foto editing and newsgroups not in Newstap on the >>>>>>>> iPad. It >>>>> couldn't restore the app data because the new machine had dumped them and >>>>> it restored them empty. >>>>>> so what? do another full restore, this time from your actual backup, >>>> which will wipe the emptiness and restore your apps and data. >>> >>> That's how I got the apps back, but they were empty. >> >> What is an "empty app" and how does it differ from a full one ?? > >Think brand new, downloaded for the first time. Empty. Fine, so you've now got the old Pages on your new machine. So use it. -- "That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence." -- Christopher Hitchens
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| From | Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> |
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| Date | 2015-04-11 14:14 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <699792806450454167.448466drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #48116 |
Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote: > In article > <1170324403450413055.311288drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-septembe > r.org>, Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote: > >> Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote: >>> In article >>> <1008335472450389965.946460drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-septembe >>> r.org>, Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote: >>>>>> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: >>>>> In article >>>>> <633961960450321847.455104drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-september. >>>>>> , Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>> And what happened to your backups of the iTunes data from your older >>>>>>> machine? What happened to the older computer itself, with it's data? >>>>>>>>> I'm using it for foto editing and newsgroups not in Newstap on the >>>>>>>>> iPad. It >>>>>> couldn't restore the app data because the new machine had dumped them and >>>>>> it restored them empty. >>>>>>> so what? do another full restore, this time from your actual backup, >>>>> which will wipe the emptiness and restore your apps and data. >>>>>>> That's how I got the apps back, but they were empty. >>>>> What is an "empty app" and how does it differ from a full one ?? >> >> Think brand new, downloaded for the first time. Empty. > > Fine, so you've now got the old Pages on your new machine. So use it. It's, as usual with "up"grades, missing functions I used regularly. I presume there are the additional useless bells and whistles I have no use for. -- biblioholic medievalist
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| From | Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> |
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| Date | 2015-04-11 17:31 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <110420151731510011%timstreater@greenbee.net> |
| In reply to | #48121 |
In article <699792806450454167.448466drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-september. org>, Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote: >Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote: >> In article >> <1170324403450413055.311288drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-septembe >> r.org>, Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote: >> >>> Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote: >>>> In article >>>> <1008335472450389965.946460drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-septembe >>>> r.org>, Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote: >>>>>>> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: >>>>>> In article >>>>>> <633961960450321847.455104drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-september. >>>>>>> , Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> And what happened to your backups of the iTunes data from your older >>>>>>>> machine? What happened to the older computer itself, with it's data? >>>>>>>>>> I'm using it for foto editing and newsgroups not in Newstap on the >>>>>>>>>> iPad. It >>>>>>> couldn't restore the app data because the new machine had dumped them >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> it restored them empty. >>>>>>>> so what? do another full restore, this time from your actual backup, >>>>>> which will wipe the emptiness and restore your apps and data. >>>>>>>> That's how I got the apps back, but they were empty. >>>>>> What is an "empty app" and how does it differ from a full one ?? >>> >>> Think brand new, downloaded for the first time. Empty. >> >> Fine, so you've now got the old Pages on your new machine. So use it. > >It's, as usual with "up"grades, missing functions I used regularly. I >presume there are the additional useless bells and whistles I have no use >for. Then it's not the old Pages, is it? -- Anyone who slaps a 'this page is best viewed with Browser X' label on a Web page appears to be yearning for the bad old days, before the Web, when you had very little chance of reading a document written on another computer, another word processor, or another network. -- Tim Berners-Lee
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| From | Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> |
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| Date | 2015-04-12 14:40 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <526570431450542003.527832drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #48127 |
Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote: > In article > <699792806450454167.448466drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-september. >> , Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote: > >> Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote: >>> In article >>> <1170324403450413055.311288drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-septembe >>> r.org>, Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote: >>>>>> Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote: >>>>> In article >>>>> <1008335472450389965.946460drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-septembe >>>>> r.org>, Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote: >>>>>>>> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>> In article >>>>>>> <633961960450321847.455104drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-september. >>>>>>>> , Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> And what happened to your backups of the iTunes data from your older >>>>>>>>> machine? What happened to the older computer itself, with it's data? >>>>>>>>>>> I'm using it for foto editing and newsgroups not in Newstap on the >>>>>>>>>>> iPad. It >>>>>>>> couldn't restore the app data because the new machine had dumped them >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> it restored them empty. >>>>>>>>> so what? do another full restore, this time from your actual backup, >>>>>>> which will wipe the emptiness and restore your apps and data. >>>>>>>>> That's how I got the apps back, but they were empty. >>>>>>> What is an "empty app" and how does it differ from a full one ?? >>>>>>> Think brand new, downloaded for the first time. Empty. >>>>> Fine, so you've now got the old Pages on your new machine. So use it. >> >> It's, as usual with "up"grades, missing functions I used regularly. I >> presume there are the additional useless bells and whistles I have no use >> for. > > Then it's not the old Pages, is it? Exactly. It's a downgrade yet again. -- biblioholic medievalist
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| From | "D. Spencer Hines" <d_spencerhines@america.com> |
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| Date | 2015-04-12 04:44 -1000 |
| Message-ID | <mge0eb$uqd$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #48134 |
It's just part and parcel of the General Dumbing-Down Of The Culture. DSH "The final happiness of man consists in the contemplation of truth.... This is sought for its own sake, and is directed to no other end beyond itself." Saint Thomas Aquinas, [1224/5-1274] "Summa Contra Gentiles" [c.1258-1264] "Erilar" wrote in message news:526570431450542003.527832drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-september.org... Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote: > In article > <699792806450454167.448466drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-september. >> , Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote: > >> Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote: >>> In article >>> <1170324403450413055.311288drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-septembe >>> r.org>, Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote: >>>>>> Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote: >>>>> In article >>>>> <1008335472450389965.946460drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-septembe >>>>> r.org>, Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote: >>>>>>>> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>> In article >>>>>>> <633961960450321847.455104drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-september. >>>>>>>> , Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> And what happened to your backups of the iTunes data from your >>>>>>>>>>> older >>>>>>>>> machine? What happened to the older computer itself, with it's >>>>>>>>> data? >>>>>>>>>>> I'm using it for foto editing and newsgroups not in Newstap on >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> iPad. It >>>>>>>> couldn't restore the app data because the new machine had dumped >>>>>>>> them >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> it restored them empty. >>>>>>>>> so what? do another full restore, this time from your actual >>>>>>>>> backup, >>>>>>> which will wipe the emptiness and restore your apps and data. >>>>>>>>> That's how I got the apps back, but they were empty. >>>>>>> What is an "empty app" and how does it differ from a full one ?? >>>>>>> Think brand new, downloaded for the first time. Empty. >>>>> Fine, so you've now got the old Pages on your new machine. So use it. >> >> It's, as usual with "up"grades, missing functions I used regularly. I >> presume there are the additional useless bells and whistles I have no use >> for. > > Then it's not the old Pages, is it? Exactly. It's a downgrade yet again. -- biblioholic medievalist
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| From | Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-04-12 14:53 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <covf7mF43d7U2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #48136 |
On 2015-04-12, D. Spencer Hines <d_spencerhines@america.com> wrote:
> It's just part and parcel of the General Dumbing-Down Of The Culture.
>
> DSH
>
> "The final happiness of man consists in the contemplation of truth....
> This is sought for its own sake, and is directed to no other end beyond
> itself." Saint Thomas Aquinas, [1224/5-1274] "Summa Contra Gentiles"
> [c.1258-1264]
>
> "Erilar" wrote in message
> news:526570431450542003.527832drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-september.org...
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Much like your top-posting and missing sig separator, then?
--
Today is Boomtime, the 29th day of Discord in the YOLD 3181
I don't have an attitude problem.
If you have a problem with my attitude, that's your problem.
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| From | Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> |
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| Date | 2015-04-12 16:53 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <120420151653564886%timstreater@greenbee.net> |
| In reply to | #48134 |
In article <526570431450542003.527832drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-september. org>, Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote: >Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote: >> In article >> <699792806450454167.448466drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-september. >>> , Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote: >> >>> Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote: >>>> In article >>>> <1170324403450413055.311288drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-septembe >>>> r.org>, Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote: >>>>>>> Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote: >>>>>> In article >>>>>> <1008335472450389965.946460drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-septembe >>>>>> r.org>, Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>> In article >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <633961960450321847.455104drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-septembe >>>>>>>> r. >>>>>>>>> , Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> And what happened to your backups of the iTunes data from your >>>>>>>>>>>> older >>>>>>>>>> machine? What happened to the older computer itself, with it's data? >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm using it for foto editing and newsgroups not in Newstap on the >>>>>>>>>>>> iPad. It >>>>>>>>> couldn't restore the app data because the new machine had dumped them >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> it restored them empty. >>>>>>>>>> so what? do another full restore, this time from your actual backup, >>>>>>>> which will wipe the emptiness and restore your apps and data. >>>>>>>>>> That's how I got the apps back, but they were empty. >>>>>>>> What is an "empty app" and how does it differ from a full one ?? >>>>>>>> Think brand new, downloaded for the first time. Empty. >>>>>> Fine, so you've now got the old Pages on your new machine. So use it. >>> >>> It's, as usual with "up"grades, missing functions I used regularly. I >>> presume there are the additional useless bells and whistles I have no use >>> for. >> >> Then it's not the old Pages, is it? > >Exactly. It's a downgrade yet again. But I kept asking you if you'd copied the old Pages from the old machine to the new one. You keep insisting you have but now it turns out you haven't. -- "The idea that Bill Gates has appeared like a knight in shining armour to lead all customers out of a mire of technological chaos neatly ignores the fact that it was he who, by peddling second-rate technology, led them into it in the first place." - Douglas Adams
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| From | Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> |
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| Date | 2015-04-12 21:56 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <2127788444450568465.617072drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #48143 |
Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:. > > But I kept asking you if you'd copied the old Pages from the old > machine to the new one. You keep insisting you have but now it turns > out you haven't. The downgrade came with Yosemite. I have an older version on iPad and old laptop. -- biblioholic medievalist
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| From | Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> |
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| Date | 2015-04-12 17:05 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <552aa5d5$0$36596$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> |
| In reply to | #48134 |
In article <526570431450542003.527832drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-september.org>, Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote: First, why on earth did you cc this thread to travel and medieval- studies groups? I've removed them as they have nothing to do with fixing your iPad backup problem. Second, please learn to trim unneeded quotage. You've got umpteen layers of wasted space here. As near as I can tell from that mass of text, the attributions aren't even all correct. Third, you said you restored the iPad from your backups, but now you say that Pages is *not* the same version but a newer one that you don't like. If that's the case, then obviously you didn't restore from your backups (which people have been pointing out to you for two days now). It sounds like you simply went into your purchase history on Apple's site and got the latest versions of all the apps you had previously bought. No wonder you aren't seeing any of your own data. Patty
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