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does anyone use their iPad as a camera

Started byBrian <bclark@es.co.nz>
First post2012-08-18 11:22 +0000
Last post2012-08-21 04:44 +0000
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  does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-18 11:22 +0000
    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera John Young <jy@scallawags.net> - 2012-08-18 07:36 -0400
    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2012-08-18 12:49 +0100
      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> - 2012-08-18 09:04 -0600
        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2012-08-18 16:24 +0100
      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-19 12:06 +0000
        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-19 06:42 -0700
          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 04:44 +0000
            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-21 06:38 +0000
            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-21 08:04 -0700
              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-21 08:30 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-21 09:36 -0700
                  Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 09:39 -0700
                    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-21 10:14 -0700
                    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2012-08-21 15:05 -0700
                      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-21 15:21 -0700
                        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2012-08-21 16:04 -0700
                          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 16:13 -0700
                            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-21 19:10 -0700
                              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 19:29 -0700
                                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2012-08-21 20:43 -0700
                                  Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-21 21:07 -0700
                                    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2012-08-22 02:14 -0700
                                  Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 23:31 -0700
                                    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2012-08-22 02:14 -0700
                      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 15:24 -0700
                        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2012-08-21 15:51 -0700
                          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 16:08 -0700
                    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-21 18:06 -0700
                      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera John Young <jy@scallawags.net> - 2012-08-21 21:48 -0400
                        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 19:29 -0700
                        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-21 20:33 -0700
                        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-21 22:10 -0700
                          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-21 22:23 -0700
                            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 23:31 -0700
                              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-21 23:55 -0700
                      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 19:29 -0700
                        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-21 19:40 -0700
                        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-21 22:09 -0700
                          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 23:31 -0700
                    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-22 01:38 +0000
                      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 19:29 -0700
                        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-22 15:14 +0000
                  Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-21 18:01 -0700
                    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-21 19:03 -0700
                      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-21 22:17 -0700
                        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-22 00:37 -0700
                          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-22 00:55 -0700
                            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-22 10:59 -0700
                              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Tom Stiller <tom_stiller@yahoo.com> - 2012-08-22 14:28 -0400
                              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2012-08-22 15:03 -0400
                                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-22 15:39 -0700
                              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-22 12:46 -0700
                                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-22 15:37 -0700
                                  Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-22 15:58 -0700
                                    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2012-08-22 16:10 -0700
                                      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-22 20:03 -0500
                                      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-22 20:20 -0700
                                        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2012-08-23 09:06 -0700
                                          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-23 12:32 -0700
                                            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2012-08-23 12:54 -0700
                                              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-23 14:33 -0700
                                                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2012-08-23 15:20 -0700
                                            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-23 16:11 -0700
                                              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-23 20:53 -0500
                                                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-23 21:05 -0700
                                    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-22 20:01 -0500
                                      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVEsPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-22 20:44 -0700
                                    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera salgud <spamboy6547@comcast.net> - 2012-08-23 08:12 -0600
                        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-24 17:10 -0400
                          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2012-08-24 14:20 -0700
                          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2012-08-25 08:03 +1000
                            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-25 09:21 -0400
                              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-25 09:42 -0700
                                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-25 13:01 -0400
                              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2012-08-26 08:22 +1000
                                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-26 11:41 -0400
                                  Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2012-08-27 07:38 +1000
                                    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-26 17:48 -0400
                                      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2012-08-27 11:19 +1000
                                        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-27 17:13 -0400
                                          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2012-08-28 08:05 +1000
                                            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-27 18:44 -0400
                                              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2012-08-28 11:27 +1000
                                            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-27 20:31 -0500
                          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2012-08-24 21:41 -0700
                            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2012-08-24 22:29 -0700
                            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-25 09:22 -0400
                              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-25 09:38 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-22 01:38 +0000
                  Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-21 22:23 -0700
                    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-22 15:14 +0000
                      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-22 08:24 -0700
                      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-22 11:03 -0700
        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-19 23:55 +0000
          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 05:31 +0000
    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2012-08-18 09:45 -0400
      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-19 12:06 +0000
        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-19 08:31 -0700
    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-18 07:19 -0700
      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera "zulu" <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> - 2012-08-18 16:41 +0100
        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-18 13:32 -0500
          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera "zulu" <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> - 2012-08-18 19:45 +0100
            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-18 12:07 -0700
            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2012-08-18 19:54 -0400
            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-18 17:07 -0700
              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2012-08-18 21:54 -0400
              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera "zulu" <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> - 2012-08-19 08:16 +0100
              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-19 12:06 +0000
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-19 08:31 -0700
                  Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 04:44 +0000
            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-18 19:29 -0500
          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2012-08-18 19:51 -0400
            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera "zulu" <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> - 2012-08-19 08:11 +0100
              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2012-08-19 20:33 -0400
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera "zulu" <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> - 2012-08-20 08:40 +0100
                  Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2012-08-20 11:29 -0400
                    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Todd Allcock <elecconec@AnoOspamL.com> - 2012-08-20 09:43 -0600
                    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-20 08:55 -0700
                    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera "zulu" <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> - 2012-08-20 16:57 +0100
        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-19 12:06 +0000
          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera "zulu" <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> - 2012-08-19 15:26 +0100
          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-19 08:31 -0700
            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 04:44 +0000
              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-20 23:41 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 13:50 +0000
                  Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 09:37 -0700
          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-19 11:45 -0400
            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 04:52 +0000
              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-20 23:41 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 13:50 +0000
          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-19 10:53 -0500
          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-19 23:49 +0000
            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-19 17:40 -0700
              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-20 06:42 +0000
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-20 17:14 -0400
                  Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-20 23:04 +0000
            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 05:32 +0000
    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera sbt <dogbreath@chaseabone.com.invalid> - 2012-08-18 07:30 -0700
    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-18 10:19 -0500
      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2012-08-18 09:54 -0700
    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-18 11:41 -0400
      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-19 12:06 +0000
        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-19 11:22 -0400
    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera "Douglas C. Neidermeyer" <sgt@arms.omega.faber.edu> - 2012-08-18 12:12 -0400
      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera claudel@sonic.net (Claude V. Lucas) - 2012-08-18 16:16 +0000
        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2012-08-18 22:01 -0400
        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-19 04:37 +0000
    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Gerry <once@around-the-block.org> - 2012-08-18 10:03 -0700
      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2012-08-18 19:42 -0400
      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2012-08-18 22:04 -0400
      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera "Douglas C. Neidermeyer" <sgt@arms.omega.faber.edu> - 2012-08-19 15:44 -0400
        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-08-19 15:53 -0400
          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera "Douglas C. Neidermeyer" <sgt@arms.omega.faber.edu> - 2012-08-19 19:34 -0400
          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 05:32 +0000
    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera "Charles" <charlesschuler@comcast.net> - 2012-08-18 18:07 -0400
    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-19 04:33 +0000
      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> - 2012-08-19 00:55 -0600
        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-19 12:06 +0000
        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-19 08:31 -0700
          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 04:44 +0000
        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-19 23:31 +0000
          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-19 17:40 -0700
            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-20 06:23 +0000
              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera "Douglas C. Neidermeyer" <sgt@arms.omega.faber.edu> - 2012-08-20 08:38 -0400
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera MrTallyman <MrTallyman@BananaCountersRUs.org> - 2012-08-20 06:29 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-20 07:32 -0700
                  Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-20 08:55 -0700
                    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-20 09:21 -0700
                      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-20 10:19 -0700
                        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-20 11:52 -0700
                    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> - 2012-08-20 12:03 -0600
                  Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera "Douglas C. Neidermeyer" <sgt@arms.omega.faber.edu> - 2012-08-20 12:27 -0400
                    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-20 10:13 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> - 2012-08-20 09:24 -0600
                  Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-20 19:25 +0000
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-20 19:20 +0000
              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-20 08:55 -0700
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-20 09:31 -0700
                  Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-20 10:19 -0700
                    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-20 12:02 -0700
                      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-20 12:23 -0700
                        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-20 13:25 -0700
                          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-20 15:12 -0700
                            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-08-20 18:23 -0500
                              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-20 19:24 -0700
                              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-20 21:47 -0700
                            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-20 21:42 -0700
                              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-20 23:41 -0700
                                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 13:50 +0000
                                  Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 09:37 -0700
                                    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-22 01:38 +0000
                                      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 19:29 -0700
                                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-21 07:23 -0700
                                  Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 09:37 -0700
                                    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-22 01:38 +0000
                                      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 19:29 -0700
                                        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-21 22:33 -0700
                                    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-21 22:31 -0700
                            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 06:28 +0000
                              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 00:06 -0700
                                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 13:22 +0000
                                  Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 09:37 -0700
                                    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera "zulu" <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> - 2012-08-21 20:50 +0100
                                      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 12:59 -0700
                                        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera "zulu" <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> - 2012-08-21 22:46 +0100
                                    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-22 01:38 +0000
                                      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-21 22:34 -0700
                                        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-22 15:14 +0000
                                          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-22 08:24 -0700
                          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-20 22:59 +0000
                            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-20 16:36 -0700
                            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-20 21:26 -0700
                              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-21 06:31 +0000
                                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 00:06 -0700
                                  Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-21 07:29 -0700
                                    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 09:37 -0700
                                    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-22 01:38 +0000
                                      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 19:29 -0700
                                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-21 07:25 -0700
                                  Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-21 09:37 -0700
                                    Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-22 01:38 +0000
                Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-20 19:28 +0000
              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 06:10 +0000
          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 05:32 +0000
      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-19 12:06 +0000
      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-08-19 06:48 -0700
        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 04:44 +0000
      Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-19 08:31 -0700
        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-19 23:46 +0000
          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-19 17:40 -0700
            Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2012-08-20 06:35 +0000
              Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-20 08:55 -0700
          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> - 2012-08-19 22:01 -0600
          Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 05:32 +0000
        Re: does anyone use their iPad as a camera Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-08-21 04:44 +0000

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#14771

FromDoug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com>
Date2012-08-23 12:54 -0700
Message-ID<cdehmxjsf8.fsf@ethel.the.log>
In reply to#14770
Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> writes:

> On 2012-08-23 09:06:33 -0700, Doug Anderson
> <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> said:
> 
> > Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> writes:
> >
> >> On 2012-08-22 16:10:37 -0700, Doug Anderson said:
> >>
> >>> Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> writes:
> >>> (snip)
> >>>
> >>>> What contest?
> >>>> You started this, and your OP is taking on trollish dimensions.
> >>> By "you started this" I think you mean "Michelle posted some photos."
> >>> The only thing trollish is your turning MIchelle's post into some
> >>> kind
> >>> of competition.
> >> What competition?
> > I would refer to your argumentative post which in my thread is date
> > stamped
> > Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 12:46:07 -0700
> 
> Argumentative in that post?

Yep.  Michelle stated an opinion about which picture she liked better,
and she explained why.  Your response could have been an explanation
of why you felt differently, or it could have been a "diff'rent
strokes for diff'rent folks" response.  Instead it began,
argumentatively, with:

>OK! That is what happens when you ask for an opinion based on a
>subjective non-standard comparison test, and you already held your own
>preconceived opinion.

If you can't see why accusing someone of having a preconceived notion
is argumentative, then I can't help you.

> After I gave my opinion, Michelle challenged me twice as to my method
> and reasoning regarding how I reached my conclusions and I told
> her. If anything it was Michelle who changed the tone of this dialog
> with her challenge. It seemed obvious to me that she held preconceived
> notions on what those opinions should be.

I think your remark on her having a preconceived notion is the one
that stands out as "tone changing."
 

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#14774

FromSavageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com>
Date2012-08-23 14:33 -0700
Message-ID<201208231433418930-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>
In reply to#14771
On 2012-08-23 12:54:03 -0700, Doug Anderson 
<ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> said:

> Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> writes:
> 
>> On 2012-08-23 09:06:33 -0700, Doug Anderson
>> <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> said:
>> 
>>> Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> writes:
>>> 
>>>> On 2012-08-22 16:10:37 -0700, Doug Anderson said:
>>>> 
>>>>> Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> writes:
>>>>> (snip)
>>>>> 
>>>>>> What contest?
>>>>>> You started this, and your OP is taking on trollish dimensions.
>>>>> By "you started this" I think you mean "Michelle posted some photos."
>>>>> The only thing trollish is your turning MIchelle's post into some
>>>>> kind
>>>>> of competition.
>>>> What competition?
>>> I would refer to your argumentative post which in my thread is date
>>> stamped
>>> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 12:46:07 -0700
>> 
>> Argumentative in that post?
> 
> Yep.  Michelle stated an opinion about which picture she liked better,
> and she explained why.  Your response could have been an explanation
> of why you felt differently, or it could have been a "diff'rent
> strokes for diff'rent folks" response.  Instead it began,
> argumentatively, with:
> 
>> OK! That is what happens when you ask for an opinion based on a
>> subjective non-standard comparison test, and you already held your own
>> preconceived opinion.
> 
> If you can't see why accusing someone of having a preconceived notion
> is argumentative, then I can't help you.
> 
>> After I gave my opinion, Michelle challenged me twice as to my method
>> and reasoning regarding how I reached my conclusions and I told
>> her. If anything it was Michelle who changed the tone of this dialog
>> with her challenge. It seemed obvious to me that she held preconceived
>> notions on what those opinions should be.
> 
> I think your remark on her having a preconceived notion is the one
> that stands out as "tone changing."
> 

Like everybody else here, just expressing my thoughts.
...and you have given me your opinion. So as I have said, I am done 
with this thread.


-- 
Regards,

Savageduck

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#14777

FromDoug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com>
Date2012-08-23 15:20 -0700
Message-ID<6c393dl07r.fsf@ethel.the.log>
In reply to#14774
Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> writes:

> On 2012-08-23 12:54:03 -0700, Doug Anderson
> <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> said:
> 
> > Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> writes:
> >
> >> On 2012-08-23 09:06:33 -0700, Doug Anderson
> >> <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> said:
> >>
> >>> Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> writes:
> >>>
> >>>> On 2012-08-22 16:10:37 -0700, Doug Anderson said:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> writes:
> >>>>> (snip)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> What contest?
> >>>>>> You started this, and your OP is taking on trollish dimensions.
> >>>>> By "you started this" I think you mean "Michelle posted some photos."
> >>>>> The only thing trollish is your turning MIchelle's post into some
> >>>>> kind
> >>>>> of competition.
> >>>> What competition?
> >>> I would refer to your argumentative post which in my thread is date
> >>> stamped
> >>> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 12:46:07 -0700
> >> Argumentative in that post?
> > Yep.  Michelle stated an opinion about which picture she liked
> > better,
> > and she explained why.  Your response could have been an explanation
> > of why you felt differently, or it could have been a "diff'rent
> > strokes for diff'rent folks" response.  Instead it began,
> > argumentatively, with:
> >
> >> OK! That is what happens when you ask for an opinion based on a
> >> subjective non-standard comparison test, and you already held your own
> >> preconceived opinion.
> > If you can't see why accusing someone of having a preconceived notion
> > is argumentative, then I can't help you.
> >
> >> After I gave my opinion, Michelle challenged me twice as to my method
> >> and reasoning regarding how I reached my conclusions and I told
> >> her. If anything it was Michelle who changed the tone of this dialog
> >> with her challenge. It seemed obvious to me that she held preconceived
> >> notions on what those opinions should be.
> > I think your remark on her having a preconceived notion is the one
> > that stands out as "tone changing."
> >
> 
> Like everybody else here, just expressing my thoughts.
> ...and you have given me your opinion. 

Right.  But expressing your thoughts about another poster's motivation
changes the tone quite a bit from expressing your thoughts about the
quality of a photograph.  No?

At least that's my opinion.

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#14783

FromMichelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>
Date2012-08-23 16:11 -0700
Message-ID<michelle-4FC3B6.16110123082012@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#14770
In article <2012082312323575249-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>,
 Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:

> After I gave my opinion, Michelle challenged me twice as to my method 
> and reasoning regarding how I reached my conclusions and I told her.

I did not "challenge" you; I asked you to explain your conclusions.  You 
gave no reasons for your conclusions, so I asked because I was curious as 
to how you reached them.

> If anything it was Michelle who changed the tone of this dialog with her 
> challenge.

Is your ego so fragile that you see any question as a challenge?

> It seemed obvious to me that she held preconceived notions on what those 
> opinions should be.

Maybe if you weren't so full of yourself, you wouldn't be seeing things 
that do not exist.

You may be a hotshot in the photography groups, but here you come across as 
an obnoxious know-it-all.

> I believe that defending my position without resorting to less than 
> polite discussion is appropriate.

"defending" your position?  Give me a break.  Asking you to explain how you 
reached your conclusion is not an attack, and therefore there is nothing to 
"defend" against.

-- 
Tea Party Patriots is to Patriotism as 
People's Democratic Republic is to Democracy.

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#14786

FromGeorge Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com>
Date2012-08-23 20:53 -0500
Message-ID<CC5C48D6.8D8CB%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>
In reply to#14783


On 8/23/12 6:11 PM, in article
michelle-4FC3B6.16110123082012@news.eternal-september.org, "Michelle
Steiner" <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

> In article <2012082312323575249-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>,
>  Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
> 
>> After I gave my opinion, Michelle challenged me twice as to my method
>> and reasoning regarding how I reached my conclusions and I told her.
> 
> I did not "challenge" you; I asked you to explain your conclusions.  You
> gave no reasons for your conclusions, so I asked because I was curious as
> to how you reached them.
> 
>> If anything it was Michelle who changed the tone of this dialog with her
>> challenge.
> 
> Is your ego so fragile that you see any question as a challenge?
> 
>> It seemed obvious to me that she held preconceived notions on what those
>> opinions should be.
> 
> Maybe if you weren't so full of yourself, you wouldn't be seeing things
> that do not exist.
> 
> You may be a hotshot in the photography groups, but here you come across as
> an obnoxious know-it-all.
> 
>> I believe that defending my position without resorting to less than
>> polite discussion is appropriate.
> 
> "defending" your position?  Give me a break.  Asking you to explain how you
> reached your conclusion is not an attack, and therefore there is nothing to
> "defend" against.

I give up

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#14790

FromSavageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com>
Date2012-08-23 21:05 -0700
Message-ID<2012082321052250878-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>
In reply to#14786
On 2012-08-23 18:53:42 -0700, George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> said:

> 
> 
> 
> On 8/23/12 6:11 PM, in article
> michelle-4FC3B6.16110123082012@news.eternal-september.org, "Michelle
> Steiner" <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
> 
>> In article <2012082312323575249-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>,
>> Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> After I gave my opinion, Michelle challenged me twice as to my method
>>> and reasoning regarding how I reached my conclusions and I told her.
>> 
>> I did not "challenge" you; I asked you to explain your conclusions.  You
>> gave no reasons for your conclusions, so I asked because I was curious as
>> to how you reached them.
>> 
>>> If anything it was Michelle who changed the tone of this dialog with her
>>> challenge.
>> 
>> Is your ego so fragile that you see any question as a challenge?
>> 
>>> It seemed obvious to me that she held preconceived notions on what those
>>> opinions should be.
>> 
>> Maybe if you weren't so full of yourself, you wouldn't be seeing things
>> that do not exist.
>> 
>> You may be a hotshot in the photography groups, but here you come across as
>> an obnoxious know-it-all.
>> 
>>> I believe that defending my position without resorting to less than
>>> polite discussion is appropriate.
>> 
>> "defending" your position?  Give me a break.  Asking you to explain how you
>> reached your conclusion is not an attack, and therefore there is nothing to
>> "defend" against.
> 
> I give up

Thanks for trying George. ;-)

-- 
Regards,

Savageduck

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#14753

FromGeorge Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com>
Date2012-08-22 20:01 -0500
Message-ID<CC5AEB19.8D6EB%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>
In reply to#14750


On 8/22/12 5:58 PM, in article
2012082215580443658-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom, "Savageduck"
<savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:

> On 2012-08-22 15:37:47 -0700, Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> said:
> 
>> In article <2012082212460731729-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>,
>>  Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>> 
>>>> I disagree with you about the HDR and non HDR versions of the iPhone shot;
>>>> the HDR has more saturated greens, closer to the actual color of the
>>>> leaves, and the leaves themselves are sharper, less soft, than in the non
>>>> HDR picture.
>>> 
>>> OK! That is what happens when you ask for an opinion based on a
>>> subjective non-standard comparison test, and you already held your own
>>> preconceived opinion.
>> 
>> No, I did not have a preconceived opinion.  And actually, I didn't ask for
>> an opinion; I merely presented the pictures.
> 
> With apparantly little purpose.
> 
>>> Take a look at some of the dpreview.com comparison tests to get an idea
>>> of what I am talking about. Then get back to us on this subject. If you
>>> are trying to justify your use of HDR with an iPhone app because it is
>>> your preference, go ahead.
>> 
>> I am not trying to justify anything; I was merely pointing out what I
>> observed.
>> 
>> I could not see how you preferred a picture with washed out sky and less
>> saturation and detail in the leaves to one with a properly exposed sky and
>> greater detail and saturation in the leaves.
> 
> My preference was for the D70 image.
> 
>> If you want to make a contest of it, go a head, but I'm not playing that
>> game.
> 
> What contest?
> You started this, and your OP is taking on trollish dimensions.
> What were we supposed to do with your posted images, look at them and
> go, "hmmm"?
> 
> 

Duck/Michelle:

You two are on a road of generally what happens when two newsgroups get
cross-posted. 

Michelle is a great contributor to the alt.mac groups and Savageduck is one
of the best in the alt.digital groups. Both are headstrong and great
contributors to their respective groups. When worlds collide, egos can
become problematic, so like a good guy, I'm trying to step in before thing
escalate to typical Usenet blather.

Both of you have valid points and I respect both of your viewpoints about
the subject(s) presented. Please believe me when I state that you two, if
introduced differently, would have a more respective view of each other.

OTOH: Opinions are like a-holes, everyone has one. Please don't exhibit the
'posterior', OK guys?

I really believe that if you two could have a little more dialogue, it would
be mutually beneficial for both parties. There is more to both of you than
what should come from a first-time Usenet catfight.

George "Peacemaker" Kerby

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#14756

FromSavageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVEsPAM}me.com>
Date2012-08-22 20:44 -0700
Message-ID<savageduck1-E36EFB.20444822082012@freenews.netfront.net>
In reply to#14753
In article <CC5AEB19.8D6EB%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>,
 George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote:

> On 8/22/12 5:58 PM, in article
> 2012082215580443658-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom, "Savageduck"
> <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
> 
> > On 2012-08-22 15:37:47 -0700, Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> 
> > said:
> > 
> >> In article <2012082212460731729-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>,
> >>  Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
> >> 
> >>>> I disagree with you about the HDR and non HDR versions of the iPhone 
> >>>> shot;
> >>>> the HDR has more saturated greens, closer to the actual color of the
> >>>> leaves, and the leaves themselves are sharper, less soft, than in the 
> >>>> non
> >>>> HDR picture.
> >>> 
> >>> OK! That is what happens when you ask for an opinion based on a
> >>> subjective non-standard comparison test, and you already held your own
> >>> preconceived opinion.
> >> 
> >> No, I did not have a preconceived opinion.  And actually, I didn't ask for
> >> an opinion; I merely presented the pictures.
> > 
> > With apparantly little purpose.
> > 
> >>> Take a look at some of the dpreview.com comparison tests to get an idea
> >>> of what I am talking about. Then get back to us on this subject. If you
> >>> are trying to justify your use of HDR with an iPhone app because it is
> >>> your preference, go ahead.
> >> 
> >> I am not trying to justify anything; I was merely pointing out what I
> >> observed.
> >> 
> >> I could not see how you preferred a picture with washed out sky and less
> >> saturation and detail in the leaves to one with a properly exposed sky and
> >> greater detail and saturation in the leaves.
> > 
> > My preference was for the D70 image.
> > 
> >> If you want to make a contest of it, go a head, but I'm not playing that
> >> game.
> > 
> > What contest?
> > You started this, and your OP is taking on trollish dimensions.
> > What were we supposed to do with your posted images, look at them and
> > go, "hmmm"?
> > 
> > 
> 
> Duck/Michelle:
> 
> You two are on a road of generally what happens when two newsgroups get
> cross-posted. 
> 
> Michelle is a great contributor to the alt.mac groups and Savageduck is one
> of the best in the alt.digital groups. Both are headstrong and great
> contributors to their respective groups. When worlds collide, egos can
> become problematic, so like a good guy, I'm trying to step in before thing
> escalate to typical Usenet blather.
> 
> Both of you have valid points and I respect both of your viewpoints about
> the subject(s) presented. Please believe me when I state that you two, if
> introduced differently, would have a more respective view of each other.
> 
> OTOH: Opinions are like a-holes, everyone has one. Please don't exhibit the
> 'posterior', OK guys?
> 
> I really believe that if you two could have a little more dialogue, it would
> be mutually beneficial for both parties. There is more to both of you than
> what should come from a first-time Usenet catfight.
> 
> George "Peacemaker" Kerby

Hi George.

At this point I am going to cease and desist. 
I prefer for these debates not to degrade to the point individuals in 
other groups we are familiar with seem to lead them.

-- 
Regards,
Savageduck

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#14765

Fromsalgud <spamboy6547@comcast.net>
Date2012-08-23 08:12 -0600
Message-ID<g72h5yg8kopo.1u0e1m5i83tem$.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#14750
On Wed, 22 Aug 2012 15:58:04 -0700, Savageduck wrote:

> On 2012-08-22 15:37:47 -0700, Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> said:
> 
>> In article <2012082212460731729-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>,
>>  Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>> 
>>>> I disagree with you about the HDR and non HDR versions of the iPhone shot;
>>>> the HDR has more saturated greens, closer to the actual color of the
>>>> leaves, and the leaves themselves are sharper, less soft, than in the non
>>>> HDR picture.
>>> 
>>> OK! That is what happens when you ask for an opinion based on a
>>> subjective non-standard comparison test, and you already held your own
>>> preconceived opinion.
>> 
>> No, I did not have a preconceived opinion.  And actually, I didn't ask for
>> an opinion; I merely presented the pictures.
> 
> With apparantly little purpose.
> 

I'm confused. First, you accuse her of trying to validate a preconceived
notion, now you accuse of of having no purpose? So which is it?

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#14803

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca>
Date2012-08-24 17:10 -0400
Message-ID<UNOdnTecJsMicKrNnZ2dnUVZ_q6dnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#14713
On 2012-08-22 01:17 , Michelle Steiner wrote:

> questioning your ratings; I'm asking how you reached your conclusions.  Oh,
> it would also help if we knew what your qualifications were.

As a photographer, the 'duck can blow away most wannabes.

Here's one of my favourite shots that he's done.  (Not with an iPad, of 
course).

http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/138049941/original



-- 
"C'mon boys, you're not laying pipe!".
                                 -John Keating.

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#14805

FromDoug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com>
Date2012-08-24 14:20 -0700
Message-ID<qoobm0c7hu.fsf@ethel.the.log>
In reply to#14803
Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> writes:

> On 2012-08-22 01:17 , Michelle Steiner wrote:
> 
> > questioning your ratings; I'm asking how you reached your conclusions.  Oh,
> > it would also help if we knew what your qualifications were.
> 
> As a photographer, the 'duck can blow away most wannabes.
> 
> Here's one of my favourite shots that he's done.  (Not with an iPad,
> of course).
> 
> http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/138049941/original

A nice picture!  

Still, he could learn that a request to explain his opinion (whether
he wants to comply with that request or not) does not constitute
preconceived notions on behalf of the requester.

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#14812

Fromdorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au>
Date2012-08-25 08:03 +1000
Message-ID<dorayme-D6EE32.08034825082012@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#14803
In article <UNOdnTecJsMicKrNnZ2dnUVZ_q6dnZ2d@giganews.com>,
 Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:

> On 2012-08-22 01:17 , Michelle Steiner wrote:
> 
> > questioning your ratings; I'm asking how you reached your conclusions.  Oh,
> > it would also help if we knew what your qualifications were.
> 
> As a photographer, the 'duck can blow away most wannabes.
> 
> Here's one of my favourite shots that he's done.  (Not with an iPad, of 
> course).
> 
> http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/138049941/original

It's kitsch! 

I often muse about what you guys actually feel in your beating hearts 
when you talk endlessly and knowledgeably enough about photography and 
cameras and so on.

-- 
dorayme

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#14822

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca>
Date2012-08-25 09:21 -0400
Message-ID<-eGdnQ40Pv7ZTKXNnZ2dnUVZ_sadnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#14812
On 2012-08-24 18:03 , dorayme wrote:
> In article <UNOdnTecJsMicKrNnZ2dnUVZ_q6dnZ2d@giganews.com>,
>   Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>
>> On 2012-08-22 01:17 , Michelle Steiner wrote:
>>
>>> questioning your ratings; I'm asking how you reached your conclusions.  Oh,
>>> it would also help if we knew what your qualifications were.
>>
>> As a photographer, the 'duck can blow away most wannabes.
>>
>> Here's one of my favourite shots that he's done.  (Not with an iPad, of
>> course).
>>
>> http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/138049941/original
>
> It's kitsch!

Hardly.  A very well executed sunset (or rise).  The scale of the foam 
is very misleading (see the figures walling on the far right).  The 
patterns in the foam at such a scale are great.  The photographic 
capture and presentation are great IMO.  Not to mention the very narrow 
colour palette which strengthens the image.

>
> I often muse about what you guys actually feel in your beating hearts
> when you talk endlessly and knowledgeably enough about photography and
> cameras and so on.

Heart?

Beating?

C'mon?

Really?

At least photography has some level of creativity (and that is revealed 
in some of the photography groups) v. the discussions here which for the 
most part are the adoration of Apple's widgets and discussion of rumours 
and so on.

-- 
"C'mon boys, you're not laying pipe!".
                                 -John Keating.

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#14826

FromMichelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>
Date2012-08-25 09:42 -0700
Message-ID<michelle-6E0F02.09421425082012@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#14822
In article <-eGdnQ40Pv7ZTKXNnZ2dnUVZ_sadnZ2d@giganews.com>,
 Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:

> >> http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/138049941/original
> >
> > It's kitsch!
> 
> Hardly.  A very well executed sunset (or rise).  The scale of the foam 
> is very misleading (see the figures walling on the far right).  The 
> patterns in the foam at such a scale are great.  The photographic 
> capture and presentation are great IMO.  Not to mention the very narrow 
> colour palette which strengthens the image.

It is a great picture, and it shows that he's a great photographer and/or 
image-processing-software technician, probably both.

-- 
Tea Party Patriots is to Patriotism as 
People's Democratic Republic is to Democracy.

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#14829

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca>
Date2012-08-25 13:01 -0400
Message-ID<aZidnQOtsLuYmKTNnZ2dnUVZ_oWdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#14826
On 2012-08-25 12:42 , Michelle Steiner wrote:
> In article <-eGdnQ40Pv7ZTKXNnZ2dnUVZ_sadnZ2d@giganews.com>,
>   Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>
>>>> http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/138049941/original
>>>
>>> It's kitsch!
>>
>> Hardly.  A very well executed sunset (or rise).  The scale of the foam
>> is very misleading (see the figures walling on the far right).  The
>> patterns in the foam at such a scale are great.  The photographic
>> capture and presentation are great IMO.  Not to mention the very narrow
>> colour palette which strengthens the image.
>
> It is a great picture, and it shows that he's a great photographer and/or
> image-processing-software technician, probably both.

Very good photographer and pretty handy with PS.



-- 
"C'mon boys, you're not laying pipe!".
                                 -John Keating.

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#14846

Fromdorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au>
Date2012-08-26 08:22 +1000
Message-ID<dorayme-89544A.08220626082012@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#14822
In article <-eGdnQ40Pv7ZTKXNnZ2dnUVZ_sadnZ2d@giganews.com>,
 Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:

> On 2012-08-24 18:03 , dorayme wrote:
> > In article <UNOdnTecJsMicKrNnZ2dnUVZ_q6dnZ2d@giganews.com>,
> >   Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
> >
> >> On 2012-08-22 01:17 , Michelle Steiner wrote:
> >>
> >>> questioning your ratings; I'm asking how you reached your conclusions.  
> >>> Oh,
> >>> it would also help if we knew what your qualifications were.
> >>
> >> As a photographer, the 'duck can blow away most wannabes.
> >>
> >> Here's one of my favourite shots that he's done.  (Not with an iPad, of
> >> course).
> >>
> >> http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/138049941/original
> >
> > It's kitsch!
> 
> Hardly.  A very well executed sunset (or rise).  The scale of the foam 
> is very misleading (see the figures walling on the far right).  The 
> patterns in the foam at such a scale are great.  The photographic 
> capture and presentation are great IMO.  Not to mention the very narrow 
> colour palette which strengthens the image.
>

Sure! Of course, it is foolish of me to venture here on matters of 
taste and naturally you would be averse to my going on about good and 
bad taste. I suppose I better take another look, you probably 
seriously think it is nice. Just a mo...

Nope, it still looks sickeningly kitschy and I am here in a good mood 
on yet another paradisiacal day by the sea in Sydney (not guaranteed 
so much these days, but the last week has been simply brilliant). The 
picture in your url is a whole lot of golden mush. 

> >
> > I often muse about what you guys actually feel in your beating hearts
> > when you talk endlessly and knowledgeably enough about photography and
> > cameras and so on.
> 
> Heart?
> 
> Beating?
> 
> C'mon?
> 
> Really?

I recall some people  - nospam? - not understanding things which seem 
quite natural about photography and art in general in a long ago 
discussion way back. It was asserted or implied that modern digital 
photography was superior in all important respects to film 
photography. 

In my view, there was a blindness here to a fundamental: that art is 
made from the limitations of a medium as much as from its positive 
capacities. The limitations of a brush, a typewriter, a camera, a 
stock of paper and chemicals, a violin can be the making of art. Until 
this is understood at least vaguely, all the babbling in the world 
about the technical capacities of modern camera devices will amount to 
nothing deep and fundamental.

Relevance? This: you need a beating heart of a certain kind to know 
wtf I am talking about. <g>

-- 
dorayme

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#14861

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca>
Date2012-08-26 11:41 -0400
Message-ID<5N2dnTD_d-Ii3qfNnZ2dnUVZ_vudnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#14846
On 2012.08.25 18:22 , dorayme wrote:

> Sure! Of course, it is foolish of me to venture here on matters of
> taste

So don't.

Please note that the above is the level of brevity you should strive for 
as you seem to use an awful lot of keystrokes to say nothing.

-- 
"C'mon boys, you're not laying pipe!".
                                 -John Keating.

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#14872

Fromdorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au>
Date2012-08-27 07:38 +1000
Message-ID<dorayme-47077A.07385427082012@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#14861
In article <5N2dnTD_d-Ii3qfNnZ2dnUVZ_vudnZ2d@giganews.com>,
 Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:

> On 2012.08.25 18:22 , dorayme wrote:
> 
> > Sure! Of course, it is foolish of me to venture here on matters of
> > taste
> 
> So don't.
> 
> Please note that the above is the level of brevity you should strive for 
> as you seem to use an awful lot of keystrokes to say nothing.

Nothing that *you* understand. And since posting your kitsch is highly 
irrelevant to anything to do with Macs, take your own advice and 
don't.

-- 
dorayme

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#14873

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca>
Date2012-08-26 17:48 -0400
Message-ID<QLWdnSjaJcM0BKfNnZ2dnUVZ_tudnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#14872
On 2012.08.26 17:38 , dorayme wrote:

> Sure! Of course, it is foolish of me to venture here on matters of
> taste

So don't.


-- 
"C'mon boys, you're not laying pipe!".
                                 -John Keating.

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#14891

Fromdorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au>
Date2012-08-27 11:19 +1000
Message-ID<dorayme-4D76ED.11194827082012@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#14873
In article <QLWdnSjaJcM0BKfNnZ2dnUVZ_tudnZ2d@giganews.com>,
 Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:

> On 2012.08.26 17:38 , dorayme wrote:
> 
> > Sure! Of course, it is foolish of me to venture here on matters of
> > taste
> 
> So don't.

You already said this. Your juvenile habit of point-scoring is noted. 
You seem to have a total inability to know when to accept with grace 
an admission by someone you are at loggerheads with. In other words 
you are an insensitive prick. That was kitsch and your inability to 
see this is particularly consistent with your other insensitivity.

I shudder to think that *you* take so many pictures everyday (as you 
mentioned recently) and I will now have you in mind as a particular 
case if I ever again restate my oft mentioned opinion that there are 
far too many pictures in the world.

-- 
dorayme

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