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| Started by | Bert <bert@iphouse.com> |
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| First post | 2014-05-31 17:22 +0000 |
| Last post | 2014-06-05 20:48 +0000 |
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Dr. Dre and Apple ... Bert <bert@iphouse.com> - 2014-05-31 17:22 +0000
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-31 17:25 +0000
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Bert <bert@iphouse.com> - 2014-05-31 17:34 +0000
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-31 17:36 +0000
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Bert <bert@iphouse.com> - 2014-05-31 17:41 +0000
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-31 17:48 +0000
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-05-31 13:30 -0400
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Bert <bert@iphouse.com> - 2014-05-31 17:32 +0000
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-05-31 14:01 -0400
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-05-31 22:26 -0400
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-01 02:43 +0000
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-05-31 22:55 -0400
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-01 03:39 +0000
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-01 06:20 +0000
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-01 18:45 +0000
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-02 00:59 +0000
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-06-07 02:41 -0400
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-07 14:57 +0000
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-01 08:18 -0400
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-01 18:34 +0000
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-01 17:01 -0400
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-01 03:07 +0000
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-01 03:40 +0000
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-06-01 01:43 -0400
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-01 18:44 +0000
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-01 18:21 +1200
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-01 08:38 -0400
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-01 08:17 -0400
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-06-01 11:42 -0400
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-01 11:44 -0400
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... News <News@Group.Post> - 2014-05-31 14:00 -0400
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-31 13:17 -0700
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Bert <bert@iphouse.com> - 2014-05-31 23:05 +0000
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-31 16:14 -0700
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-31 23:22 +0000
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Bert <bert@iphouse.com> - 2014-06-01 15:00 +0000
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-01 08:23 -0700
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Bert <bert@iphouse.com> - 2014-06-01 15:28 +0000
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-01 09:01 -0700
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... bknight@conramp.net - 2014-06-01 10:50 -0500
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Bert <bert@iphouse.com> - 2014-06-01 16:04 +0000
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... bknight@conramp.net - 2014-06-01 11:15 -0500
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Bert <bert@iphouse.com> - 2014-06-01 16:24 +0000
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... bknight@conramp.net - 2014-06-01 11:26 -0500
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-06-02 18:12 -0500
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Martin Frost me at invalid stanford daht edu <nospam@stanford.edu.invalid> - 2014-06-02 19:54 -0700
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-03 03:36 +0000
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-03 18:35 +1200
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-06-04 10:52 -0500
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-05 09:20 +1200
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... "Lee Waun" <leewaun@telus.net> - 2014-06-04 18:35 -0700
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-06-04 10:42 -0500
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-04 08:55 -0700
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-04 09:28 -0700
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-06-04 13:01 -0500
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-04 13:25 -0700
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-06-06 15:50 -0500
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-05 09:46 +1200
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-04 18:30 -0700
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-04 18:29 -0700
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-06-06 15:51 -0500
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... "Lee Waun" <leewaun@telus.net> - 2014-06-04 18:37 -0700
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-04 19:13 -0700
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-05 04:35 +0000
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2014-06-04 17:52 -0400
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-01 09:17 -0700
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Bert <bert@iphouse.com> - 2014-06-01 16:19 +0000
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-01 09:38 -0700
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... News <News@Group.Post> - 2014-06-01 12:27 -0400
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-01 09:40 -0700
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... News <News@Group.Post> - 2014-06-01 12:47 -0400
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-01 10:41 -0700
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... News <News@Group.Post> - 2014-06-01 14:24 -0400
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-01 11:51 -0700
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... News <News@Group.Post> - 2014-06-01 16:58 -0400
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-01 14:25 -0700
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-06-02 18:11 -0500
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-02 23:18 +0000
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-02 21:45 -0400
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-03 02:00 +0000
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-06-04 10:39 -0500
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-03 03:14 +0000
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... "Lee Waun" <leewaun@telus.net> - 2014-06-02 20:11 -0700
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-03 03:37 +0000
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-06-04 10:50 -0500
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... "Lee Waun" <leewaun@telus.net> - 2014-06-04 18:42 -0700
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-06-04 22:01 -0400
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-04 19:18 -0700
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-05 04:41 +0000
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... "Lee Waun" <leewaun@telus.net> - 2014-06-04 22:00 -0700
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-05 07:46 -0700
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... "Lee Waun" <leewaun@telus.net> - 2014-06-05 09:04 -0700
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-05 16:15 +0000
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-05 09:22 -0700
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... "Lee Waun" <leewaun@telus.net> - 2014-06-05 11:38 -0700
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-05 18:14 -0700
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-06 11:34 +1000
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... "Lee Waun" <leewaun@telus.net> - 2014-06-05 22:56 -0700
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-06 08:35 -0700
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-06 09:43 -0700
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-06 10:15 -0700
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... News <News@Group.Post> - 2014-06-06 13:16 -0400
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-06 10:28 -0700
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... "Lee Waun" <leewaun@telus.net> - 2014-06-06 10:33 -0700
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-06-06 16:07 -0500
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-06 14:52 -0700
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-06-08 10:13 -0500
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-06-06 16:03 -0500
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-06-06 15:56 -0500
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... AV3 <arviso@earthlink.net> - 2014-06-02 20:55 -0400
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2014-06-04 17:55 -0400
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-01 17:10 +0000
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... bknight@conramp.net - 2014-06-01 12:23 -0500
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-01 10:44 -0700
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-02 00:54 +0000
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... bknight@conramp.net - 2014-06-01 20:14 -0500
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-02 10:34 +0000
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... bknight@conramp.net - 2014-06-02 06:54 -0500
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... "Lee Waun" <leewaun@telus.net> - 2014-06-02 08:23 -0700
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-06-02 18:17 -0500
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2014-06-04 17:59 -0400
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-01 10:43 -0700
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-02 00:57 +0000
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... bknight@conramp.net - 2014-06-01 20:16 -0500
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-01 19:34 -0700
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-01 12:14 +1200
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-31 19:12 -0700
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Bert <bert@iphouse.com> - 2014-06-01 15:01 +0000
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-06-01 11:44 -0400
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-01 08:11 -0400
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2014-05-31 20:31 -0400
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... bknight@conramp.net - 2014-05-31 19:37 -0500
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Harry Mudd <Agent001@Section-31.org> - 2014-06-05 16:35 -0400
Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-05 20:48 +0000
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| From | Bert <bert@iphouse.com> |
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| Date | 2014-05-31 17:22 +0000 |
| Subject | Dr. Dre and Apple ... |
| Message-ID | <XnsA33EB0D3B4133VeebleFetzer@127.0.0.1> |
Donald Sterling was forced to "sell" his basketball team because the NBA declared him a racist, unfit to own a team. Brendan Eich was forced out of Mozilla based on his views on same-sex marriage. Paula Dean was forced off the Food Channel based on using racially-charged language some years ago. Phil Robertson was suspended from his "Duck Dynasty" program for anti-Gay comments. Boycotts were threatened in each of these cases. Now, Apple has made a multi-billion dollar deal with "Dr. Dre," whose words and actions exceed anything those others have done, and is rumored to be giving him a seat on its board. What will you all be doing in response? -- bert@iphouse.com St. Paul, MN
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2014-05-31 17:25 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <buuhkcFik5U5@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #35857 |
On 2014-05-31, Bert <bert@iphouse.com> wrote: > Donald Sterling was forced to "sell" his basketball team because the NBA > declared him a racist, unfit to own a team. > > Brendan Eich was forced out of Mozilla based on his views on same-sex > marriage. > > Paula Dean was forced off the Food Channel based on using > racially-charged language some years ago. > > Phil Robertson was suspended from his "Duck Dynasty" program for > anti-Gay comments. > > Boycotts were threatened in each of these cases. > > Now, Apple has made a multi-billion dollar deal with "Dr. Dre," whose > words and actions exceed anything those others have done, and is rumored > to be giving him a seat on its board. > > What will you all be doing in response? Ignoring people like you. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Bert <bert@iphouse.com> |
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| Date | 2014-05-31 17:34 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <XnsA33EB2B3539E0VeebleFetzer@127.0.0.1> |
| In reply to | #35858 |
In news:buuhkcFik5U5@mid.individual.net Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > On 2014-05-31, Bert <bert@iphouse.com> wrote: > >> What will you all be doing in response? > > Ignoring people like you. That's no surprise. I was directing my question to the normal people who read these groups. -- bert@iphouse.com St. Paul, MN
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2014-05-31 17:36 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <buui8lFt8vU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #35861 |
On 2014-05-31, Bert <bert@iphouse.com> wrote: > In news:buuhkcFik5U5@mid.individual.net Jolly Roger ><jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > >> On 2014-05-31, Bert <bert@iphouse.com> wrote: >> >>> What will you all be doing in response? >> >> Ignoring people like you. > > That's no surprise. I was directing my question to the normal people who > read these groups. I've been here longer than you and probably will be here long after you've wandered off, trollboi. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Bert <bert@iphouse.com> |
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| Date | 2014-05-31 17:41 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <XnsA33EB4018108FVeebleFetzer@127.0.0.1> |
| In reply to | #35862 |
In news:buui8lFt8vU1@mid.individual.net Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > On 2014-05-31, Bert <bert@iphouse.com> wrote: >> In news:buuhkcFik5U5@mid.individual.net Jolly Roger >><jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: >> >>> On 2014-05-31, Bert <bert@iphouse.com> wrote: >>> >>>> What will you all be doing in response? >>> >>> Ignoring people like you. >> >> That's no surprise. I was directing my question to the normal people >> who read these groups. > > I've been here longer than you and probably will be here long after > you've wandered off, I'm sure you will, fanboi. > trollboi. Is it your normal practice to read and reply to people you think are trolling? -- bert@iphouse.com St. Paul, MN
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2014-05-31 17:48 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <buuiurFt8vU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #35863 |
On 2014-05-31, Bert <bert@iphouse.com> wrote: > In news:buui8lFt8vU1@mid.individual.net Jolly Roger ><jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > >> On 2014-05-31, Bert <bert@iphouse.com> wrote: >>> In news:buuhkcFik5U5@mid.individual.net Jolly Roger >>><jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On 2014-05-31, Bert <bert@iphouse.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> What will you all be doing in response? >>>> >>>> Ignoring people like you. >>> >>> That's no surprise. I was directing my question to the normal people >>> who read these groups. >> >> I've been here longer than you and probably will be here long after >> you've wandered off, > > I'm sure you will, fanboi. That's right. You'll troll around for a while posting bullshit like the tripe you posted above, until you get bored and wander off to troll some other place. Meanwhile, the legitimate members of this group will still be here long after you are gone. You just don't matter much to matter the "fanbois", and there's nothing you can do to change that. Your juvenile trolls are powerless. : ) >> trollboi. > > Is it your normal practice to read and reply to people you think are > trolling? Best not to concern yourslef with things you cannot control. I'll post if and when I feel like it, and there is absolutely nothing you can do to stop me. Enjoy! -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2014-05-31 13:30 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <WMCdnaCXQvAljBfOnZ2dnUVZ_t6dnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #35857 |
On 2014.05.31, 13:22 , Bert wrote: > Now, Apple has made a multi-billion dollar deal with "Dr. Dre," whose > words and actions exceed anything those others have done, and is rumored > to be giving him a seat on its board. > > What will you all be doing in response? Nothing at all. Beats headphones are crap to my ears, so I won't be buying them. The "big" part of all this seems to be the curation of music (and other things "cultural") by the "trend identifier/setters" of Iovine and Dre. Since I "curate" for myself, I don't think they'll be too much influence on me. -- I was born a 1%er - I'm just more equal than the rest.
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| From | Bert <bert@iphouse.com> |
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| Date | 2014-05-31 17:32 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <XnsA33EB2693DA3BVeebleFetzer@127.0.0.1> |
| In reply to | #35859 |
In news:WMCdnaCXQvAljBfOnZ2dnUVZ_t6dnZ2d@giganews.com Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: > On 2014.05.31, 13:22 , Bert wrote: > >> Now, Apple has made a multi-billion dollar deal with "Dr. Dre," whose >> words and actions exceed anything those others have done, and is >> rumored to be giving him a seat on its board. >> >> What will you all be doing in response? > > Nothing at all. > > Beats headphones are crap to my ears, so I won't be buying them. So, you don't think his arrangement with Apple says anything at all about Apple? -- bert@iphouse.com St. Paul, MN
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2014-05-31 14:01 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <Nuadnf4V9vSQhBfOnZ2dnUVZ_sOdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #35860 |
On 2014.05.31, 13:32 , Bert wrote: > In news:WMCdnaCXQvAljBfOnZ2dnUVZ_t6dnZ2d@giganews.com Alan Browne > <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: > >> On 2014.05.31, 13:22 , Bert wrote: >> >>> Now, Apple has made a multi-billion dollar deal with "Dr. Dre," whose >>> words and actions exceed anything those others have done, and is >>> rumored to be giving him a seat on its board. >>> >>> What will you all be doing in response? >> >> Nothing at all. >> >> Beats headphones are crap to my ears, so I won't be buying them. > > So, you don't think his arrangement with Apple says anything at all > about Apple? It sure does. But rather than waste my time with a reply, here is a nicely written article from the NYT that will save my time and probably be far better than me at saying something about Apple. http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/05/30/what-the-beats-deal-says-about-apple-it-loves-tastemakers or http://tinyurl.com/qyxbo4g -- I was born a 1%er - I'm just more equal than the rest.
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| From | JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> |
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| Date | 2014-05-31 22:26 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <538a8f63$0$48024$c3e8da3$5d8fb80f@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #35859 |
On 14-05-31 13:30, Alan Browne wrote: > The "big" part of all this seems to be the curation of music (and other > things "cultural") by the "trend identifier/setters" of Iovine and Dre. Replace "trend identifier/setters" with "fad" and you have the value of "Beats". Hopefully Apple can get its 3 billion back before that fad ends. paying 3 billion bucks to hire Iovine is a lot of money. He is perhaps the only long term value in this deal. When when people around Carly Fiorina realised she had reached above her "peter's principle" and was about to be let go from HP, she went out and did something bold (buy Compaq). It only bought he a couple of years before she was fired. My *fear* (just a fear at this point) is that Tim Cook has reached his "Peter's principle". It appears he has trouble with the kingdoms at Apple with Jony Ive taking increasngly big amount of power and ruining user interfaces and I suspect causing lots of friction within Apple as he takes control of other people's functions. Back when Jobs was there, Jobs was THE boss, a very stern father who put people in their places. Tim Cook appears to be more of a manager/diplomat in a company built to require a stern father to guide it (both from product design and human interactions within company). This creates a void and people within a fighting to get their power, but Jony Ive appears to have grabbed a huge chunk of power from a lot of people outside his industrial design turf. Instead of Ive waiting to get some experience with UI, he his pushing his beginner's designs of IOS-7 onto OS-X. Welcome back to character cell 1980s with "Lynx" user interface (blue text to click on). Meanwhile, there appears to be nothing radically new on the horizon. Could Tim Cook be spending our (shareholder) money (buying Beats) to distract from the fact that he is no Steve Jobs and Apple DNA really needs a Steve Jobs at the head ?
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2014-06-01 02:43 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <buvia4F77daU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #35899 |
On 2014-06-01, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: > On 14-05-31 13:30, Alan Browne wrote: > >> The "big" part of all this seems to be the curation of music (and other >> things "cultural") by the "trend identifier/setters" of Iovine and Dre. [useless load of doomsday speculation deleted] > Meanwhile, there appears to be nothing radically new on the horizon. Apple doesn't divulge what's on the horizon - never has. So you'll just have to excuse the rest of us for not taking the lack of announcements as a sign of doom. It's cleat that won't stop you, though. > Could Tim Cook be spending our (shareholder) money (buying Beats) to > distract from the fact that he is no Steve Jobs and Apple DNA really > needs a Steve Jobs at the head ? Or could you simply be talking out of your asshole as you have been for the past several years you've been spouting your Apple doom and gloom here? I'll go with Occam's razor on this one. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> |
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| Date | 2014-05-31 22:55 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <538a9638$0$51465$c3e8da3$eb767761@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #35900 |
On 14-05-31 22:43, Jolly Roger wrote: > Apple doesn't divulge what's on the horizon - never has. So you'll just > have to excuse the rest of us for not taking the lack of announcements > as a sign of doom. It's cleat that won't stop you, though. At one point, hindsight will reveal that Apple hasn't done anything terribly new in the past X years. I think the timer still has a year or two at most before such conclusions start to be reached, And so far, since Tim Cook took over, the only major changes were musical chair reorg with Forstall pushed out and Ive taking over portions he has no experience in (UI). Itunes Radio has failed to be deployed outside the USA in any meaningful way. If Apple had bought some music streaming that had presence oustide the USA, I could have seen some complimentary purchase to help Itunes Radio grow. But buying this Beats fad thing is simply removing a small bit player from the US market. This does not mean that its current business is failling. Apple executes well (and this is something Tim Cook has always been good at). But good execution doesn't yield to big bang innovation.
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2014-06-01 03:39 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <buvlipF7qlkU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #35901 |
On 2014-06-01, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: > On 14-05-31 22:43, Jolly Roger wrote: > >> Apple doesn't divulge what's on the horizon - never has. So you'll just >> have to excuse the rest of us for not taking the lack of announcements >> as a sign of doom. It's cleat that won't stop you, though. > > At one point, hindsight will reveal that Apple hasn't done anything > terribly new in the past X years. I think the timer still has a year or > two at most before such conclusions start to be reached, iPhone was released 5 years, 7 months, and 19 days after iPod (2057 days). iPad was released 2 years, 9 months, and 5 days after iPhone (1009 days). The average amount of time between Apple’s last two revolutions: 4 years, 2 months, and 11 days (1533 days). Tim Cook has been Apple CEO for 2 years, 9 months, 8 days (1012 days). Tim Cook will have been Apple CEO for 4 years, 2 months, and 11 days (1533 days) on Wednesday, November 4, 2015. Only idiots and trolls like you are claiming that Apple hasn't done anything terribly new for too long. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
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| Date | 2014-06-01 06:20 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnlolhhi.1v11.g.kreme@amelia.local> |
| In reply to | #35904 |
In message <buvlipF7qlkU1@mid.individual.net> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > On 2014-06-01, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: >> On 14-05-31 22:43, Jolly Roger wrote: >> >>> Apple doesn't divulge what's on the horizon - never has. So you'll just >>> have to excuse the rest of us for not taking the lack of announcements >>> as a sign of doom. It's cleat that won't stop you, though. >> >> At one point, hindsight will reveal that Apple hasn't done anything >> terribly new in the past X years. I think the timer still has a year or >> two at most before such conclusions start to be reached, > iPhone was released 5 years, 7 months, and 19 days after iPod (2057 > days). > iPad was released 2 years, 9 months, and 5 days after iPhone (1009 > days). > The average amount of time between Apple’s last two revolutions: 4 > years, 2 months, and 11 days (1533 days). Ah, but the iPhone was a stop-gap product, the original product that was planned was the iPad, they just couldn't make it not suck in 2001. -- He [Rincewind] wondered how old the tower really was. Older than the University, certainly. Older than the city, which had formed about it like scree around a mountain. Maybe older than geography.
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2014-06-01 18:45 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <bv1an0FieubU4@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #35914 |
On 2014-06-01, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote: > In message <buvlipF7qlkU1@mid.individual.net> > Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: >> On 2014-06-01, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: >>> On 14-05-31 22:43, Jolly Roger wrote: >>> >>>> Apple doesn't divulge what's on the horizon - never has. So you'll just >>>> have to excuse the rest of us for not taking the lack of announcements >>>> as a sign of doom. It's cleat that won't stop you, though. >>> >>> At one point, hindsight will reveal that Apple hasn't done anything >>> terribly new in the past X years. I think the timer still has a year or >>> two at most before such conclusions start to be reached, > >> iPhone was released 5 years, 7 months, and 19 days after iPod (2057 >> days). > >> iPad was released 2 years, 9 months, and 5 days after iPhone (1009 >> days). > >> The average amount of time between Apple’s last two revolutions: 4 >> years, 2 months, and 11 days (1533 days). > > Ah, but the iPhone was a stop-gap product, the original product that was > planned was the iPad, they just couldn't make it not suck in 2001. Uh huh. That's a pretty fucking lucrative "stop-gap product"... -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
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| Date | 2014-06-02 00:59 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnlonj3h.2jgu.g.kreme@amelia.local> |
| In reply to | #35973 |
In message <bv1an0FieubU4@mid.individual.net> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > On 2014-06-01, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote: >> In message <buvlipF7qlkU1@mid.individual.net> >> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: >>> On 2014-06-01, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: >>>> On 14-05-31 22:43, Jolly Roger wrote: >>>> >>>>> Apple doesn't divulge what's on the horizon - never has. So you'll just >>>>> have to excuse the rest of us for not taking the lack of announcements >>>>> as a sign of doom. It's cleat that won't stop you, though. >>>> >>>> At one point, hindsight will reveal that Apple hasn't done anything >>>> terribly new in the past X years. I think the timer still has a year or >>>> two at most before such conclusions start to be reached, >> >>> iPhone was released 5 years, 7 months, and 19 days after iPod (2057 >>> days). >> >>> iPad was released 2 years, 9 months, and 5 days after iPhone (1009 >>> days). >> >>> The average amount of time between Apple’s last two revolutions: 4 >>> years, 2 months, and 11 days (1533 days). >> >> Ah, but the iPhone was a stop-gap product, the original product that was >> planned was the iPad, they just couldn't make it not suck in 2001. > Uh huh. That's a pretty fucking lucrative "stop-gap product"... Yep. But the product that Jobs wanted to make was the iPad. They only looked at making a phone because the iPad was impossible. Of course, it was successful beyond what anyone expected. -- Oh look, good intentions!
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| From | JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> |
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| Date | 2014-06-07 02:41 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <5392b432$0$60438$c3e8da3$69010069@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #35904 |
On 14-05-31 23:39, Jolly Roger wrote: >> At one point, hindsight will reveal that Apple hasn't done anything >> terribly new in the past X years. I think the timer still has a year or >> two at most before such conclusions start to be reached, > > iPhone was released 5 years, 7 months, and 19 days after iPod (2057 > days). > Only idiots and trolls like you are claiming that Apple hasn't done > anything terribly new for too long. Since you are out to ridicule me, I guess you don't bother reading my messages. I think it was pretty clear that I stated the conclusion of lack of innovation can't be made yet, there are still a year or two to go. We you seem to agree with me, yet, you go out of your way to ridicule and insult me.
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2014-06-07 14:57 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <bvgnj3FpdsnU6@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #36448 |
On 2014-06-07, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: > On 14-05-31 23:39, Jolly Roger wrote: > >>> At one point, hindsight will reveal that Apple hasn't done anything >>> terribly new in the past X years. I think the timer still has a year or >>> two at most before such conclusions start to be reached, >> >> iPhone was released 5 years, 7 months, and 19 days after iPod (2057 >> days). > >> Only idiots and trolls like you are claiming that Apple hasn't done >> anything terribly new for too long. > > Since you are out to ridicule me, That is not my motivation. > I guess you don't bother reading my messages. If only... > I think it was pretty clear that I stated the conclusion of > lack of innovation can't be made yet, there are still a year or two to go. *YAWN* You have been predicting Apple doom with a good measure of hyperbole and bullshit repeatedly through the years here, as anyone with a brain cell and access to Google Groups can clearly see. And you have been wrong up until now. I don't see that changing. You seem to think if you craft your silly doom and gloom messages the way you did above, or frame them as questions, people won't realize what you are doing. You are wrong. > We you seem to agree with me, yet, you go out of your way to ridicule > and insult me. I certainly do not agree with much of anything you have ever said about Apple, especially when you make thinly-veiled trollish statements indicating at some nebulous time in the future Apple will somehow fail to innovate, despite there being no actual evidence of it. You're just one out of many Apple doom and gloom trolls. The rest of us see right through you; and you are held accountable for the words you speak, like it or not. Keep on trollin' if you feel you must... -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2014-06-01 08:18 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <HMCdnUNDaeashxbOnZ2dnUVZ_rgAAAAA@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #35900 |
On 2014.05.31, 22:43 , Jolly Roger wrote: > On 2014-06-01, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: >> On 14-05-31 13:30, Alan Browne wrote: >> >>> The "big" part of all this seems to be the curation of music (and other >>> things "cultural") by the "trend identifier/setters" of Iovine and Dre. > > [useless load of doomsday speculation deleted] [unfortunately, the way you did that makes it look attributable to me, not wonder-analyst] -- I was born a 1%er - I'm just more equal than the rest.
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2014-06-01 18:34 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <bv1a27FieubU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #35921 |
On 2014-06-01, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: > On 2014.05.31, 22:43 , Jolly Roger wrote: >> On 2014-06-01, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: >>> On 14-05-31 13:30, Alan Browne wrote: >>> >>>> The "big" part of all this seems to be the curation of music (and other >>>> things "cultural") by the "trend identifier/setters" of Iovine and Dre. >> >> [useless load of doomsday speculation deleted] > > [unfortunately, the way you did that makes it look attributable to me, > not wonder-analyst] My bad. Sorry about that, Alan. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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