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Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files?

Started byLiam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com>
First post2014-06-01 07:02 -0500
Last post2014-06-03 03:07 +0000
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  Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-01 07:02 -0500
    Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-01 09:33 -0400
      Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-01 11:59 -0500
      Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-01 22:40 -0500
        Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-02 00:05 -0400
          Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 00:18 -0500
            Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-02 02:29 -0400
            Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 01:48 -0500
              Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-02 00:56 -0700
            Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 01:55 -0500
              Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-02 01:00 -0700
              Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-02 11:48 -0400
            Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-02 00:45 -0700
            Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 02:54 -0500
            Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 02:55 -0500
              Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-02 09:21 -0700
            Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 03:10 -0500
              Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-02 01:18 -0700
            Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 03:18 -0500
              Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2014-06-02 11:05 -0400
              Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 10:25 -0500
                Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2014-06-02 16:54 -0400
                  Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-02 17:06 -0400
                    Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-02 21:58 +0000
                      Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-02 18:20 -0400
                        Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-06-03 01:01 +0200
                        Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? M.L. <me@privacy.invalid> - 2014-06-03 19:18 -0500
                          Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-03 20:41 -0400
                            Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-06-04 08:37 +0200
                              Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-04 12:44 -0400
                                Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-06-04 19:41 +0200
                                  Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-04 14:17 -0400
                        Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> - 2014-06-09 14:51 +0100
                          Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-09 13:31 -0400
                            Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> - 2014-06-09 22:59 +0100
                              Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-10 02:11 +0000
                              Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-10 01:58 -0400
                          Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-09 19:13 +0000
                            Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-09 14:03 -0700
                    Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2014-06-02 21:36 -0400
                      Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-02 21:55 -0400
                      Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-03 01:57 +0000
                        Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2014-06-03 13:13 -0400
                          Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-03 10:22 -0700
                          Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-03 14:16 -0400
                      Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-02 19:43 -0700
                        Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2014-06-03 13:19 -0400
                          Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-03 17:31 +0000
                          Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-03 10:36 -0700
                          Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-03 14:16 -0400
                            Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-06-03 20:46 +0200
                              Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-03 16:11 -0400
                        Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-03 20:01 +0000
                          Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? M.L. <me@privacy.invalid> - 2014-06-03 19:53 -0500
                            Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-03 21:07 -0400
                        Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> - 2014-06-09 15:04 +0100
                  Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 16:16 -0500
            Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 03:25 -0500
              Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-02 11:49 -0400
            Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 12:52 -0500
        Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-01 21:41 -0700
          Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 00:24 -0500
            Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-02 02:29 -0400
            Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 01:50 -0500
              Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-02 02:54 -0400
                Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 02:56 -0500
            Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 02:01 -0500
              Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-02 11:48 -0400
        Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-02 04:47 +0000
          Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 00:29 -0500
            Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-02 02:29 -0400
            Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-06-02 23:05 +1200
          Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-02 02:29 -0400
            Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-02 16:25 +0000
          Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 01:32 -0500
            Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-02 02:36 -0400
          Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 02:11 -0500
          Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 02:16 -0500
            Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-02 11:48 -0400
            Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-02 09:09 -0700
          Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 02:19 -0500
            Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-02 11:49 -0400
            Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-02 09:10 -0700
          Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 02:21 -0500
          Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 02:22 -0500
          Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 02:26 -0500
            Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-02 11:49 -0400
          Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 09:06 -0500
          Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 09:26 -0500
            Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-02 11:49 -0400
    Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-01 18:49 +0000
      Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-01 22:34 -0500
        Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-01 20:40 -0700
          Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-01 23:04 -0500
            Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-02 00:13 -0400
            Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-01 21:39 -0700
              Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-02 10:38 +0000
              Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? cb <cb@aol.com> - 2014-06-02 14:12 +0200
            Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 00:46 -0500
              Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-02 02:29 -0400
                Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 02:28 -0500
                  Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-02 11:49 -0400
                Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 02:34 -0500
            Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 09:09 -0500
        Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-06-02 15:54 +1200
        Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-02 00:05 -0400
          Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 00:52 -0500
            Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-02 02:29 -0400
            Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 02:35 -0500
              Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-02 11:49 -0400
                Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 13:03 -0500
            Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 02:41 -0500
            Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-02 09:26 -0700
            Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 13:06 -0500
        Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-02 04:44 +0000
          Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 00:57 -0500
            Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-02 02:29 -0400
            Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-02 08:49 -0700
            Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-02 16:19 +0000
          Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 01:01 -0500
            Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-02 02:29 -0400
            Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-02 08:58 -0700
            Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-02 16:23 +0000
          Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 02:41 -0500
            Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-02 08:59 -0700
              Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 13:21 -0500
          Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 02:44 -0500
            Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-02 01:05 -0700
            Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-02 11:49 -0400
            Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-02 09:04 -0700
              Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 13:22 -0500
                Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-02 15:10 -0400
                Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 19:16 -0500
                  Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-03 00:27 +0000
                    Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 20:39 -0500
                  Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-02 20:41 -0400
                    Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-03 00:52 +0000
                    Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-02 18:24 -0700
                      Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-03 01:27 +0000
                        Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Martin Frost me at invalid stanford daht edu <nospam@stanford.edu.invalid> - 2014-06-02 20:37 -0700
                          Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-03 03:40 +0000
                            Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-03 20:03 +0000
                              Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-03 23:29 +0000
                                Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-04 03:12 +0000
                                  Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-04 03:21 +0000
                      Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-02 21:55 -0400
                        Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-02 19:06 -0700
                    Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 21:03 -0500
                      Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 23:04 -0500
          Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 02:45 -0500
            Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-02 11:49 -0400
              Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 13:31 -0500
                Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-02 15:10 -0400
            Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-02 09:05 -0700
              Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 13:34 -0500
          Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 02:49 -0500
            Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-02 11:49 -0400
              Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 13:41 -0500
                Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-02 15:10 -0400
                Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 19:40 -0500
                  Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-02 20:44 -0400
            Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-02 09:05 -0700
              Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 13:42 -0500
            Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-02 16:33 +0000
          Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 03:23 -0500
            Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2014-06-02 09:47 +0100
              Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> - 2014-06-02 17:53 +0000
                Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-02 15:10 -0400
                  Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2014-06-02 19:43 +0000
                    Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-02 16:21 -0400
                    Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2014-06-02 16:41 -0400
                      Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-02 17:06 -0400
                        Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 17:49 -0500
                          Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-02 23:29 +0000
                            Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> - 2014-06-03 00:38 +0000
                            Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 19:57 -0500
                              Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-03 01:16 +0000
                            Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 22:59 -0500
                              Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-03 00:10 -0400
                                Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 23:12 -0500
                                  Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2014-06-03 08:07 -0400
                                    Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-03 15:32 +0000
                                      Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2014-06-03 13:08 -0400
                                        Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-03 17:23 +0000
                                        Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-03 20:07 +0000
                                      Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-03 10:20 -0700
                                Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 23:12 -0500
                                  Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-03 00:47 -0500
                          Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-02 19:43 -0400
                        Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 20:00 -0500
                          Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-03 01:17 +0000
                        Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2014-06-02 21:26 -0400
                          Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-02 21:55 -0400
                            Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2014-06-03 08:35 -0400
                              Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-03 14:16 -0400
                              Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2014-06-06 22:30 -0400
                                Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-06 22:39 -0400
                                  Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2014-06-07 11:28 -0400
                                    Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-07 13:36 -0400
                                    Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2014-06-07 17:36 +0000
                                      Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-07 13:41 -0400
                                        Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2014-06-07 23:28 +0000
                                          Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-07 19:44 -0700
                                            Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2014-06-08 17:28 +0000
                                              Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-08 10:45 -0700
                                                Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-08 13:07 -0500
                                              Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-08 17:27 -0400
                                          Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-07 19:44 -0700
                                          Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-08 04:20 +0000
                                          Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-08 01:15 -0400
                                      Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Bert <bert@iphouse.com> - 2014-06-07 18:34 +0000
                                        Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-07 14:41 -0400
                                          Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2014-06-07 23:31 +0000
                                            Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? joe <none@domain.invalid> - 2014-06-07 20:29 -0500
                                            Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-08 04:34 +0000
                                            Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-08 01:15 -0400
                                      Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2014-06-07 17:32 -0400
                                Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-07 02:55 +0000
                            Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-03 13:38 -0500
                          Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-03 02:02 +0000
                      Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-03 14:40 +0000
                        Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-03 13:54 -0500
                          Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-03 12:05 -0700
                            Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-03 20:05 +0000
                Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> - 2014-06-02 13:32 -0600
                  Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> - 2014-06-02 20:40 +0000
                    Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 19:15 -0500
                Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 19:06 -0500
                  Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-03 00:18 +0000
                    Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 20:09 -0500
                      Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-02 21:20 -0400
                    Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 21:44 -0500
                  Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-02 20:41 -0400
            Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-02 11:49 -0400
              Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> - 2014-06-02 17:55 +0000
          Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 13:10 -0500
            Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-02 15:10 -0400
          Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 13:12 -0500
            Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-02 15:10 -0400
          Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 13:19 -0500
          Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 13:19 -0500
            Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-02 19:26 +0000
          Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 13:45 -0500
            Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-02 19:27 +0000
          Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 19:41 -0500
          Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 23:08 -0500
          Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-03 00:42 -0500
          Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-03 00:49 -0500
        Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-02 10:36 +0000
          Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 09:15 -0500
            Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-02 11:49 -0400
          Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 13:56 -0500
      Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-01 23:53 -0500
        Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-02 02:29 -0400
        Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-02 00:41 -0700
        Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 02:53 -0500
        Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-02 09:13 -0700
        Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-02 16:53 +0000
          Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 12:57 -0500
          Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 12:58 -0500
            Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-02 15:10 -0400
            Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-02 19:23 +0000
          Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 12:59 -0500
            Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-02 15:10 -0400
          Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 16:20 -0500
            Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-02 22:09 +0000
          Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 19:55 -0500
        Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 12:56 -0500
          Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-02 15:10 -0400
      Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 03:10 -0500
      Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 03:10 -0500
    Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? cb <cb@aol.com> - 2014-06-02 13:59 +0200
      Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 09:23 -0500
        Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-02 11:49 -0400
          Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-06-02 13:57 -0500
        Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? cb <cb@aol.com> - 2014-06-06 10:10 +0200
          Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-06 22:44 -0400
      Re: Where does QuickVoice Recorder free store its audio files? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-03 03:07 +0000

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#36161

FromLiam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com>
Date2014-06-02 13:19 -0500
Message-ID<48440$538cc03a$43da7656$28622@nntpswitch.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to#36037
On Mon, 02 Jun 2014 16:23:58 +0000, Jolly Roger wrote:

> Awww, you poor Linux user! You have to root something! Say it isn't so!
> How can Linux users be expected to root things? Next thing you know
> they'll be expected to compile things as well! It'll be madness! MADNESS,
> I TELL YOU!! Give me a break.

Except that iOS 7.1.1 can't be rooted yet, apparently.

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#36183

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2014-06-02 19:26 +0000
Message-ID<bv41f3F5iniU3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#36161
On 2014-06-02, Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 02 Jun 2014 16:23:58 +0000, Jolly Roger wrote:
>
>> Awww, you poor Linux user! You have to root something! Say it isn't so!
>> How can Linux users be expected to root things? Next thing you know
>> they'll be expected to compile things as well! It'll be madness! MADNESS,
>> I TELL YOU!! Give me a break.
>
> Except that iOS 7.1.1 can't be rooted yet, apparently.

Then wait for the jail break to be released, dummy.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#36168

FromLiam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com>
Date2014-06-02 13:45 -0500
Message-ID<d27a0$538cc645$43da7656$28622@nntpswitch.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to#36037
On Mon, 02 Jun 2014 16:33:48 +0000, Jolly Roger wrote:

> Well, gee... Why do you think that is, bozo?

I try to discuss things here without resorting to name calling
of the people involved.

Now as for companies such as the now-infamous Nfinity, those
guys you *can* call bozos!

But, actually, they're very clever. They *knew* exactly what they
were doing when they wrote the product description. They knew
why they didn't want iTunes to be able to extract their files.
And, they knew to make the entire process difficult, but, not
to mention any of that in the product description, lest the user
be forwarded of their impending doom too soon to prevent the
user from committing valuable data to the program.

So, while I'd like to call them bozos myself, I can't, since
they were actually very clever.

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#36184

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2014-06-02 19:27 +0000
Message-ID<bv41hrF5iniU4@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#36168
On 2014-06-02, Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 02 Jun 2014 16:33:48 +0000, Jolly Roger wrote:
>
>> Well, gee... Why do you think that is, bozo?
>
> I try to discuss things here without resorting to name calling
> of the people involved.

Quit acting like a bozo if you dislike the name.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#36218

FromLiam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com>
Date2014-06-02 19:41 -0500
Message-ID<8f6f5$538d19d2$43da7656$29102@nntpswitch.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to#36037
On Mon, 02 Jun 2014 19:26:27 +0000, Jolly Roger wrote:

> Then wait for the jail break to be released, dummy.

You would convey as much information without the insults!

:)

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#36260

FromLiam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com>
Date2014-06-02 23:08 -0500
Message-ID<13c93$538d4a4b$43da7656$31620@nntpswitch.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to#36037
On Mon, 02 Jun 2014 22:59:56 -0500, Liam O'Connor wrote:

> a. I recorded an audio clip on the iPad as a WAV file.
> b. I connected the iPad USB cable to the PC and slid it over.
> c. I played the WAV file on Linux.
> 
> What could be a simpler use model than that?

I forgot to include this screenshot of the results:
 http://oi58.tinypic.com/2077prb.jpg

Roland AirRecorder clearly has the desired file-transfer model
down pat. The only (major) flaw of AirRecorder is that it
appears to be an iPhone app which can't run in the background
on the iPad.

Other than that, it's perfect.

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#36264

FromLiam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com>
Date2014-06-03 00:42 -0500
Message-ID<6d74f$538d6058$43da7656$32634@nntpswitch.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to#36037
On Mon, 02 Jun 2014 23:04:10 -0500, Liam O'Connor wrote:

> The *only* problem is that AirRecorder doesn't work in the background.
> Other than that (pretty big limitation), it's perfect otherwise!

Following nospam's lead, I found these two voice recorders that *did* 
work in the background, based on this article: 
http://danmason.co.uk/2013/06/18/three-of-the-best-ipad-voice-recorder-apps-for-journalists-and-bloggers/

That article suggested "Voddio" & "Voice Record".
a. Both worked fine in the background.
b. Both saved files to an accessible Documents folder.
c. Voice Record was far more intuitive than Voddio; but Voddio was more powerful.

Here is a screenshot of the files slid over from Voddio to Linux:
http://oi59.tinypic.com/14lpzkn.jpg

And, here's a screenshot of files slid over from Voice Record to Linux:
http://oi58.tinypic.com/ml36kp.jpg

VODDIO:
This app was a bit like the famous Audacity freeware on all platforms other
than iOS, which allows the user to edit files in many ways (although there
really was no real comparison with Audacity, given the immense power of
Audacity over Voddio).

The Voddio app took a bit of getting used to, but, it recorded audio or
video projects, allowing multiple vignettes to be spliced together.

VOICE RECORD:
This app was a lot simpler, and much more like the voice recorders we've
been testing all along. It saved an MP4 file which could be converted to
an MP3 file at the touch of a button. Minor edits and appends were allowed, 
but the key functionality I was looking for was that it both saved the files
in an accessible Documents hierarchy, and it allowed a huge variety of 
methods for sharing, which included these three that I tested:
1. Open With Other Apps
   This made the mp4 available in VLC's "Documents" folder.
2. Save in Photo Album
   This made the mp4 available in the "DCIM/101Apple" folder.
3. Save
   This made the mp4 available in Voice Record's "Documents" folder.
etc.

So, in summary, these apps allow for the desired KISS use model, 
which is to simply:

A. Easily record audio, in foreground or background, and, 
B. Easily slide the results over to the computer (in this case, Linux)
C. Over USB cable (which is faster than WiFi).

Note: Voice Record also transferred files by WiFi but I didn't test that.

   

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#36266

FromLiam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com>
Date2014-06-03 00:49 -0500
Message-ID<4cc87$538d61cf$43da7656$32634@nntpswitch.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to#36037
On Tue, 03 Jun 2014 00:47:30 -0500, Liam O'Connor wrote:

> Of the two, "Voddio" was the more powerful, while "Voice Record" was
> the more intuitive to use.

Here is a shot of the MP3 and MP4 files that Voice Recorder saved, and
easily copied over to Linux:

http://oi58.tinypic.com/ml36kp.jpg

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#36098

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2014-06-02 10:36 +0000
Message-ID<slrnlookta.2scp.g.kreme@amelia.local>
In reply to#36027
In message <71244$538bf0d6$43da7656$23406@nntpswitch.blueworldhosting.com> 
  Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 01 Jun 2014 18:49:55 +0000, Jolly Roger wrote:

>> Linux is not a supported operating system for iOS. You're on your own.

> That may be true, but it doesn't change the question of 
> how we can figure out *where* an iPad app, such as the
> Quick Voice Recorder, stores its files.

It stores them in a sandboxed folder on the device.

> I would think iPad users would know where their apps store
> their files, which is why I had asked here.

Nope. There is no need to know what the file hierarchy is. You pull the
files out in iTunes (or add files in iTunes).

> It's not really a Linux question; it's really an iPad question.

No, it's an "I don't want to use the supported tools for my iPad"
question.

-- 
I find Windows of absolutely no technical interest... Mac OS X is a rock
-solid system that's beautifully designed. I much prefer it to Linux. -- Bill Joy

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#36108

FromLiam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com>
Date2014-06-02 09:15 -0500
Message-ID<7ea65$538c8715$43da7656$27530@nntpswitch.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to#36098
On Mon, 02 Jun 2014 10:36:26 +0000, Lewis wrote:

> It stores them in a sandboxed folder on the device.

Hi Lewis,
Thanks. I have found out the answers now. 
It stores them locked in its own folders, and, apparently, 
deletes them if you have the audacity to delete the app.

That's a flawed use model, I must say, and, it was something I 
was wholly unaware of.

It *never* occurred to me that an app could lock "my" files
forever inside of it, holding them ransom so that I never 
deleted the offending app!

> There is no need to know what the file hierarchy is. You pull the
> files out in iTunes (or add files in iTunes).

Except that this particular app doesn't work with iTunes.

> It's an "I don't want to use the supported tools for my iPad"
> question.

Even if I had iTunes, apparently QuickVoice doesn't work with
iTunes. Apparently they tell you they give you a companion app
to pull your files out of something they call an "iTunes backup", 
but, there are two huge problems with that flawed use model

1. What's an iTunes backup? I have to learn how to do something
   I have no intention nor desire to learn or do, just to get
   an audio file out of the iPad?  (For example, even NFinity
   says it won't work for an encrypted backup, whatever that is.)

2. Some of the reviews said that, even with the special tool
   to pull out the audio files from an iTunes backup, they 
   still couldn't get their files out.

To me, the HUGE amount of learning and effort I have to do 
just to pull an audio file out of an audio recorder, even
if I was using Windows, is a blatant neon warning of a severely 
flawed use model.

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#36128

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2014-06-02 11:49 -0400
Message-ID<020620141149092362%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#36108
In article
<7ea65$538c8715$43da7656$27530@nntpswitch.blueworldhosting.com>, Liam
O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> wrote:

> > It's an "I don't want to use the supported tools for my iPad"
> > question.
> 
> Even if I had iTunes, apparently QuickVoice doesn't work with
> iTunes. Apparently they tell you they give you a companion app
> to pull your files out of something they call an "iTunes backup", 
> but, there are two huge problems with that flawed use model
> 
> 1. What's an iTunes backup? I have to learn how to do something
>    I have no intention nor desire to learn or do, just to get
>    an audio file out of the iPad?  (For example, even NFinity
>    says it won't work for an encrypted backup, whatever that is.)

it's what itunes automatically does when you sync.

all their sync app does is pull the files out of the backup.

it's a rather dumb way to do it but not all apps are well designed.

> 2. Some of the reviews said that, even with the special tool
>    to pull out the audio files from an iTunes backup, they 
>    still couldn't get their files out.

then they're inept.

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#36169

FromLiam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com>
Date2014-06-02 13:56 -0500
Message-ID<5a8b3$538cc8f4$43da7656$28622@nntpswitch.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to#36098
On Mon, 02 Jun 2014 11:49:09 -0400, nospam wrote:

> it's a rather dumb way to do it but not all apps are well designed.

Thanks nospam for clarifying.

I think I have my answers.

The answers I have were wholly unexpected to me, but, it seems that
you're used to this kind of use model, so, I'm sure it's less
shocking to you.

thanks!

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#36039

FromLiam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com>
Date2014-06-01 23:53 -0500
Message-ID<4a1e8$538c034b$43da7656$23616@nntpswitch.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to#35975
On Mon, 02 Jun 2014 15:54:43 +1200, David Empson wrote:

> The answer to that is either "I don't need to know" or for those who
> care slightly, "inside the app's private file storage area".

I understand. 

The problem is "accessing" the app's private storage from *another*
app (say, a file editor perhaps).

For example, let's say an iPad user saved a recording in Quick Voice
but if that iPad user then wanted to edit that audio recording in, 
say, an MP3 audio editor (which must exist for the iPad, right?), the
serious iPad user would want *access* to that private storage.

> For third party apps which store "documents" on the iPad (as opposed to
> keeping them in some kind of cloud/online storage), those documents are
> saved inside the private area belonging to the app. 

I'm learning this about the iPad. Breaking into that private storage
is a beast, even from the iPad to itself!

> No other app can access to them, due to the sandboxing mechanism. 

If that statement it true (and I have no reason to doubt your knowledge), 
then that bodes badly for iPad users. What that says is that an app
(such as QuickVoice Recorder) can create audio files that *only* that
one app can ever access. If true, that's absolutely crazy.

> The user can't directly access the files either - they need to go 
> via whatever methods the app offers for importing and exporting data.

Again, if that's true (and I have no reason to doubt you), then that's
an absolutely crazy use model! In this case, of Quick Voice, you can 
forward *some* audio files to your email; but, the recordings have
to be less than 5MB. 

So, all your saved recordings are *forever* stuck inside of Quickvoice.
There's no way to get them *out* of QuickVoice!

Obviously, that means that QuickVoice is useless as a voice recorder, 
so I will delete it; but now comes the big question for iPad users:
Q: If you delete an app, how do you save your content?

If the answer is "tough luck", I'd have to wonder why iPad users put
up with such crazy use models?

> Apple's built-in apps in some cases allow other apps limited access to
> the data they manage, e.g. the camera roll and contacts have some degree
> of availability to other apps.

I've noticed that the camera roll is stored not in any one app's 
private "Documents" folder, but in a DCIM directory at the root level
of my mount point on Linux of the iPad. So, that makes sense that
all apps can access the photos and screenshots.
h
> If you have a backup of an iPad made with iTunes, and it isn't
> encrypted, you can examine the backup with various utilities to see the
> internal structure of how apps save their documents, but this is almost
> entirely up to the app and the end user doesn't need to know.

What strikes me as crazy, is that *anyone* puts up with a use model
that is so extremely restrictive. It's like living under a dictatorship
where, you ask:
Q1: How can I send QuickVoice files to myself? A1: You can't.
Q2: How can I edit QuickVoice files in another app? A2: You can't.
Q3: If I delete QuickVoice, how do I save my files? A3: You can't.

Why/How do iPad users put up with these crazy restrictions?

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#36048

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2014-06-02 02:29 -0400
Message-ID<020620140229371578%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#36039
In article
<4a1e8$538c034b$43da7656$23616@nntpswitch.blueworldhosting.com>, Liam
O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> wrote:

> > The answer to that is either "I don't need to know" or for those who
> > care slightly, "inside the app's private file storage area".
> 
> I understand. 

not based on what you've posted.

> The problem is "accessing" the app's private storage from *another*
> app (say, a file editor perhaps).

it doesn't work that way.

everything is sandboxed.

it's possible for one app to share content, but that's up to the apps
involved. 

> For example, let's say an iPad user saved a recording in Quick Voice
> but if that iPad user then wanted to edit that audio recording in, 
> say, an MP3 audio editor (which must exist for the iPad, right?), the
> serious iPad user would want *access* to that private storage.

it doesn't work that way.

> > For third party apps which store "documents" on the iPad (as opposed to
> > keeping them in some kind of cloud/online storage), those documents are
> > saved inside the private area belonging to the app. 
> 
> I'm learning this about the iPad. Breaking into that private storage
> is a beast, even from the iPad to itself!

there's no need to break into anything.

you keep thinking that the ipad works as a mac/windows/linux based
system. it doesn't.

it's different and designed for different use cases.

> > No other app can access to them, due to the sandboxing mechanism. 
> 
> If that statement it true (and I have no reason to doubt your knowledge), 
> then that bodes badly for iPad users. What that says is that an app
> (such as QuickVoice Recorder) can create audio files that *only* that
> one app can ever access. If true, that's absolutely crazy.

that's what sandboxing means.

apps can share their documents with other apps when it makes sense.

whether an app does that is up to the app developer. don't blame the
ipad for what one particular app does or doesn't do.

> > The user can't directly access the files either - they need to go 
> > via whatever methods the app offers for importing and exporting data.
> 
> Again, if that's true (and I have no reason to doubt you), then that's
> an absolutely crazy use model! In this case, of Quick Voice, you can 
> forward *some* audio files to your email; but, the recordings have
> to be less than 5MB. 

it's entirely up to the app what it shares and how.

if quickvoice only offers email sharing then it's a limitation of the
app, not the ipad.

> So, all your saved recordings are *forever* stuck inside of Quickvoice.
> There's no way to get them *out* of QuickVoice!

yes there is, using itunes or their sync app.

> Obviously, that means that QuickVoice is useless as a voice recorder, 
> so I will delete it; but now comes the big question for iPad users:
> Q: If you delete an app, how do you save your content?

everything associated with an app is deleted when the app is deleted.

some apps offer ways to export the data, including via itunes, the
cloud or wifi.

> If the answer is "tough luck", I'd have to wonder why iPad users put
> up with such crazy use models?

it's not as crazy as it sounds.

> > Apple's built-in apps in some cases allow other apps limited access to
> > the data they manage, e.g. the camera roll and contacts have some degree
> > of availability to other apps.
> 
> I've noticed that the camera roll is stored not in any one app's 
> private "Documents" folder, but in a DCIM directory at the root level
> of my mount point on Linux of the iPad. So, that makes sense that
> all apps can access the photos and screenshots.

they can if it makes sense. they don't get blanket access to
everything. that would be bad.

> > If you have a backup of an iPad made with iTunes, and it isn't
> > encrypted, you can examine the backup with various utilities to see the
> > internal structure of how apps save their documents, but this is almost
> > entirely up to the app and the end user doesn't need to know.
> 
> What strikes me as crazy, is that *anyone* puts up with a use model
> that is so extremely restrictive. It's like living under a dictatorship
> where, you ask:
> Q1: How can I send QuickVoice files to myself? A1: You can't.
> Q2: How can I edit QuickVoice files in another app? A2: You can't.
> Q3: If I delete QuickVoice, how do I save my files? A3: You can't.
> 
> Why/How do iPad users put up with these crazy restrictions?

they use the product the way it was designed to be used and don't run
into the brick walls you keep running into.

that's not to say it's ideal, as the document sharing model is somewhat
restrictive but most of the time it isn't a big deal.

that may change tomorrow when ios 8 is previewed, or it may not.

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#36075

FromSavageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com>
Date2014-06-02 00:41 -0700
Message-ID<2014060200415074560-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>
In reply to#36039
On 2014-06-02 04:53:31 +0000, Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> said:

>> 
> 
> What strikes me as crazy, is that *anyone* puts up with a use model
> that is so extremely restrictive. It's like living under a dictatorship
> where, you ask:
> Q1: How can I send QuickVoice files to myself? A1: You can't.
> Q2: How can I edit QuickVoice files in another app? A2: You can't.
> Q3: If I delete QuickVoice, how do I save my files? A3: You can't.
> 
> Why/How do iPad users put up with these crazy restrictions?

I don't know about QuickVoice, but I can take a saved recording made on 
"Voice Memos" and email it to myself with no trouble at all. I can send 
it to Dropbox and more.
< https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/voice-memos-for-ipad/id364295267?mt=8 >

Now if you took the time to read the features of QuickVoice as I have 
just done, you will discover the you can share (to yourself if need be) 
via email.
< https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/quickvoice-recorder/id284675296?mt=8 >

You need to stop tinkering under the hood, with stuff you don't understand.


-- 
Regards,

Savageduck

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#36080

FromLiam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com>
Date2014-06-02 02:53 -0500
Message-ID<2a681$538c2d92$43da7656$24428@nntpswitch.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to#36039
On Mon, 02 Jun 2014 02:29:37 -0400, nospam wrote:

> if quickvoice only offers email sharing then it's a limitation of the
> app, not the ipad.

This is true, and I take back what I said about the iPad.

It's not the iPad's fault that it doesn't come with a decent
built-in audio recording app, nor that the app I happened to 
choose is actually useless in all ways other than clever 
(yet blatantly deceptive) marketing would have you believe.

It *is* Apple's fault for allowing this malware product from 
NFinity to even exist in the app store, so my lesson learned
is to not trust Apple's vetting process.

But, the good news, and the answer to the question posted in 
the OP, is that I have been able to save my first audio file
out of the iPad simply by playing that file out the iPad's
speakers into my Android phone's microphone.

Now I (finally) have an audio file (out of the iPad QuickVoice
app) that I can easily save, edit, and share. 

Whew! 

Thanks for all your help and advice!

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#36139

FromMichelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>
Date2014-06-02 09:13 -0700
Message-ID<020620140913561367%michelle@michelle.org>
In reply to#36039
In article
<4a1e8$538c034b$43da7656$23616@nntpswitch.blueworldhosting.com>, Liam
O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> wrote:

> What strikes me as crazy, is that *anyone* puts up with a use model
> that is so extremely restrictive. It's like living under a dictatorship
> where, you ask:
> Q1: How can I send QuickVoice files to myself? A1: You can't.
> Q2: How can I edit QuickVoice files in another app? A2: You can't.
> Q3: If I delete QuickVoice, how do I save my files? A3: You can't.
> 
> Why/How do iPad users put up with these crazy restrictions?

Because we use apps that let us share data.

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#36146

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2014-06-02 16:53 +0000
Message-ID<bv3ofdF33gfU6@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#36039
On 2014-06-02, Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 02 Jun 2014 15:54:43 +1200, David Empson wrote:
>
>> The answer to that is either "I don't need to know" or for those who
>> care slightly, "inside the app's private file storage area".
>
> I understand. 
>
> The problem is "accessing" the app's private storage from *another*
> app (say, a file editor perhaps).
>
> For example, let's say an iPad user saved a recording in Quick Voice
> but if that iPad user then wanted to edit that audio recording in, 
> say, an MP3 audio editor (which must exist for the iPad, right?), the
> serious iPad user would want *access* to that private storage.

Nope, most iPad users will simply tap the Share button and send it
wherever it needs to go. No file system access is required. I wouldn't
expect you to know that, though, since you refuse to use the iPad the
way it was designed to be used, and insist on making everything as hard
as possible for yourself, all while turning around and blaming everyone
and everything else in the world.

>> For third party apps which store "documents" on the iPad (as opposed to
>> keeping them in some kind of cloud/online storage), those documents are
>> saved inside the private area belonging to the app. 
>
> I'm learning this about the iPad. Breaking into that private storage
> is a beast, even from the iPad to itself!

Bullshit. Most iPad users don't even have to do that. And I've jail
broken more times than I can count, and it's a simple exercise.

>> No other app can access to them, due to the sandboxing mechanism. 
>
> If that statement it true (and I have no reason to doubt your knowledge), 
> then that bodes badly for iPad users. What that says is that an app
> (such as QuickVoice Recorder) can create audio files that *only* that
> one app can ever access. If true, that's absolutely crazy.

Yeah, you would draw that stupid conclusion.

>> The user can't directly access the files either - they need to go 
>> via whatever methods the app offers for importing and exporting data.
>
> Again, if that's true (and I have no reason to doubt you), then that's
> an absolutely crazy use model! In this case, of Quick Voice, you can 
> forward *some* audio files to your email; but, the recordings have
> to be less than 5MB. 

Meanwhile, the rest of us iPad users can also access the recordings in
other ways. The easiest is probably accessing them from within iTunes.
You refuse to help yourself, and instead trash everyone and everything
else - your loss.

> So, all your saved recordings are *forever* stuck inside of Quickvoice.
> There's no way to get them *out* of QuickVoice!

Not for the rest of us. Must be you. Oh well!

> Obviously, that means that QuickVoice is useless as a voice recorder, 
> so I will delete it; but now comes the big question for iPad users:
> Q: If you delete an app, how do you save your content?
>
> If the answer is "tough luck", I'd have to wonder why iPad users put
> up with such crazy use models?
>
>> Apple's built-in apps in some cases allow other apps limited access to
>> the data they manage, e.g. the camera roll and contacts have some degree
>> of availability to other apps.
>
> I've noticed that the camera roll is stored not in any one app's 
> private "Documents" folder, but in a DCIM directory at the root level
> of my mount point on Linux of the iPad. So, that makes sense that
> all apps can access the photos and screenshots.
> h
>> If you have a backup of an iPad made with iTunes, and it isn't
>> encrypted, you can examine the backup with various utilities to see the
>> internal structure of how apps save their documents, but this is almost
>> entirely up to the app and the end user doesn't need to know.
>
> What strikes me as crazy, is that *anyone* puts up with a use model
> that is so extremely restrictive. It's like living under a dictatorship
> where, you ask:
> Q1: How can I send QuickVoice files to myself? A1: You can't.
> Q2: How can I edit QuickVoice files in another app? A2: You can't.
> Q3: If I delete QuickVoice, how do I save my files? A3: You can't.

Millions of iPad users can. The only reason *you* can't is because you
refuse to use it as designed.

> Why/How do iPad users put up with these crazy restrictions?

Unlike you, they use the iPad with supported operating systems and
software, and see first-hand how well everything works when you use it
as designed, as you have been told repeatedly.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#36152

FromLiam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com>
Date2014-06-02 12:57 -0500
Message-ID<d34be$538cbb15$43da7656$28622@nntpswitch.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to#36146
On Mon, 02 Jun 2014 16:53:02 +0000, Jolly Roger wrote:

> Nope, most iPad users will simply tap the Share button and send it
> wherever it needs to go. No file system access is required. I wouldn't
> expect you to know that, though, since you refuse to use the iPad the
> way it was designed to be used, and insist on making everything as hard
> as possible for yourself, all while turning around and blaming everyone
> and everything else in the world.

I appreciate the help and advice, I really do. But you have a bug
on your shoulder about this that is hard to shake.

Can someone *else* tell Jolly Roger why it's impossible to do 
what he says to do, even for a die-hard Apple iPad fan?

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#36153

FromLiam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com>
Date2014-06-02 12:58 -0500
Message-ID<ebc87$538cbb41$43da7656$28622@nntpswitch.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to#36146
On Mon, 02 Jun 2014 16:53:02 +0000, Jolly Roger wrote:

> Bullshit. Most iPad users don't even have to do that. And I've jail
> broken more times than I can count, and it's a simple exercise.

If jailbreaking is so simple on my iOS 7.1.1 ipad, I haven't 
found *any* articles that show how to do an untethered jailbreak 
yet. 

Where do you find yours?

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