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Dr. Dre and Apple ...

Started byBert <bert@iphouse.com>
First post2014-05-31 17:22 +0000
Last post2014-06-05 20:48 +0000
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  Dr. Dre and Apple ... Bert <bert@iphouse.com> - 2014-05-31 17:22 +0000
    Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-31 17:25 +0000
      Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Bert <bert@iphouse.com> - 2014-05-31 17:34 +0000
        Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-31 17:36 +0000
          Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Bert <bert@iphouse.com> - 2014-05-31 17:41 +0000
            Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-31 17:48 +0000
    Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-05-31 13:30 -0400
      Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Bert <bert@iphouse.com> - 2014-05-31 17:32 +0000
        Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-05-31 14:01 -0400
      Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-05-31 22:26 -0400
        Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-01 02:43 +0000
          Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-05-31 22:55 -0400
            Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-01 03:39 +0000
              Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-01 06:20 +0000
                Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-01 18:45 +0000
                  Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-02 00:59 +0000
              Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-06-07 02:41 -0400
                Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-07 14:57 +0000
          Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-01 08:18 -0400
            Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-01 18:34 +0000
              Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-01 17:01 -0400
        Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-01 03:07 +0000
          Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-01 03:40 +0000
          Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-06-01 01:43 -0400
            Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-01 18:44 +0000
        Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-01 18:21 +1200
          Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-01 08:38 -0400
        Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-01 08:17 -0400
          Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-06-01 11:42 -0400
            Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-01 11:44 -0400
    Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... News <News@Group.Post> - 2014-05-31 14:00 -0400
    Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-31 13:17 -0700
      Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Bert <bert@iphouse.com> - 2014-05-31 23:05 +0000
        Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-31 16:14 -0700
          Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-31 23:22 +0000
          Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Bert <bert@iphouse.com> - 2014-06-01 15:00 +0000
            Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-01 08:23 -0700
              Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Bert <bert@iphouse.com> - 2014-06-01 15:28 +0000
                Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-01 09:01 -0700
            Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... bknight@conramp.net - 2014-06-01 10:50 -0500
              Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Bert <bert@iphouse.com> - 2014-06-01 16:04 +0000
                Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... bknight@conramp.net - 2014-06-01 11:15 -0500
                  Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Bert <bert@iphouse.com> - 2014-06-01 16:24 +0000
                    Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... bknight@conramp.net - 2014-06-01 11:26 -0500
                      Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-06-02 18:12 -0500
                        Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Martin Frost me at invalid stanford daht edu <nospam@stanford.edu.invalid> - 2014-06-02 19:54 -0700
                          Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-03 03:36 +0000
                          Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-03 18:35 +1200
                            Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-06-04 10:52 -0500
                              Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-05 09:20 +1200
                              Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... "Lee Waun" <leewaun@telus.net> - 2014-06-04 18:35 -0700
                          Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-06-04 10:42 -0500
                            Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-04 08:55 -0700
                              Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-04 09:28 -0700
                              Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-06-04 13:01 -0500
                                Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-04 13:25 -0700
                                  Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-06-06 15:50 -0500
                                Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-05 09:46 +1200
                                  Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-04 18:30 -0700
                                Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-04 18:29 -0700
                                  Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-06-06 15:51 -0500
                              Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... "Lee Waun" <leewaun@telus.net> - 2014-06-04 18:37 -0700
                                Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-04 19:13 -0700
                              Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-05 04:35 +0000
                            Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2014-06-04 17:52 -0400
                Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-01 09:17 -0700
                  Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Bert <bert@iphouse.com> - 2014-06-01 16:19 +0000
                    Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-01 09:38 -0700
                  Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... News <News@Group.Post> - 2014-06-01 12:27 -0400
                    Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-01 09:40 -0700
                      Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... News <News@Group.Post> - 2014-06-01 12:47 -0400
                        Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-01 10:41 -0700
                          Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... News <News@Group.Post> - 2014-06-01 14:24 -0400
                            Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-01 11:51 -0700
                              Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... News <News@Group.Post> - 2014-06-01 16:58 -0400
                                Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-01 14:25 -0700
                  Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-06-02 18:11 -0500
                    Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-02 23:18 +0000
                      Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-02 21:45 -0400
                        Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-03 02:00 +0000
                          Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-06-04 10:39 -0500
                        Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-03 03:14 +0000
                      Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... "Lee Waun" <leewaun@telus.net> - 2014-06-02 20:11 -0700
                        Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-03 03:37 +0000
                        Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-06-04 10:50 -0500
                          Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... "Lee Waun" <leewaun@telus.net> - 2014-06-04 18:42 -0700
                            Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-06-04 22:01 -0400
                            Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-04 19:18 -0700
                            Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-05 04:41 +0000
                              Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... "Lee Waun" <leewaun@telus.net> - 2014-06-04 22:00 -0700
                                Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-05 07:46 -0700
                                  Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... "Lee Waun" <leewaun@telus.net> - 2014-06-05 09:04 -0700
                                    Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-05 16:15 +0000
                                    Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-05 09:22 -0700
                                      Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... "Lee Waun" <leewaun@telus.net> - 2014-06-05 11:38 -0700
                                        Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-05 18:14 -0700
                                          Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-06 11:34 +1000
                                          Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... "Lee Waun" <leewaun@telus.net> - 2014-06-05 22:56 -0700
                                            Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-06 08:35 -0700
                                              Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-06 09:43 -0700
                                                Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-06 10:15 -0700
                                                  Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... News <News@Group.Post> - 2014-06-06 13:16 -0400
                                                  Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-06 10:28 -0700
                                                  Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... "Lee Waun" <leewaun@telus.net> - 2014-06-06 10:33 -0700
                                                  Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-06-06 16:07 -0500
                                                    Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-06 14:52 -0700
                                                      Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-06-08 10:13 -0500
                                          Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-06-06 16:03 -0500
                              Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-06-06 15:56 -0500
                    Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... AV3 <arviso@earthlink.net> - 2014-06-02 20:55 -0400
                    Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2014-06-04 17:55 -0400
            Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-01 17:10 +0000
              Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... bknight@conramp.net - 2014-06-01 12:23 -0500
                Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-01 10:44 -0700
                Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-02 00:54 +0000
                  Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... bknight@conramp.net - 2014-06-01 20:14 -0500
                    Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-02 10:34 +0000
                      Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... bknight@conramp.net - 2014-06-02 06:54 -0500
                    Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... "Lee Waun" <leewaun@telus.net> - 2014-06-02 08:23 -0700
                      Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-06-02 18:17 -0500
                Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2014-06-04 17:59 -0400
              Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-01 10:43 -0700
                Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-02 00:57 +0000
                  Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... bknight@conramp.net - 2014-06-01 20:16 -0500
                  Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-01 19:34 -0700
        Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-01 12:14 +1200
          Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-31 19:12 -0700
            Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Bert <bert@iphouse.com> - 2014-06-01 15:01 +0000
              Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-06-01 11:44 -0400
          Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-01 08:11 -0400
        Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2014-05-31 20:31 -0400
          Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... bknight@conramp.net - 2014-05-31 19:37 -0500
    Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Harry Mudd <Agent001@Section-31.org> - 2014-06-05 16:35 -0400
      Re: Dr. Dre and Apple ... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-05 20:48 +0000

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#35983

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca>
Date2014-06-01 17:01 -0400
Message-ID<TICdnZZfd_IvCRbOnZ2dnUVZ_hydnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#35970
On 2014.06.01, 14:34 , Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2014-06-01, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>> On 2014.05.31, 22:43 , Jolly Roger wrote:
>>> On 2014-06-01, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
>>>> On 14-05-31 13:30, Alan Browne wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The "big" part of all this seems to be the curation of music (and other
>>>>> things "cultural") by the "trend identifier/setters" of Iovine and Dre.
>>>
>>> [useless load of doomsday speculation deleted]
>>
>> [unfortunately, the way you did that makes it look attributable to me,
>>    not wonder-analyst]
>
> My bad. Sorry about that, Alan.

No biggie.

-- 
I was born a 1%er - I'm just more equal than the rest.

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#35903

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2014-06-01 03:07 +0000
Message-ID<slrnlol67g.1qsm.g.kreme@amelia.local>
In reply to#35899
In message <538a8f63$0$48024$c3e8da3$5d8fb80f@news.astraweb.com> 
  JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> My *fear* (just a fear at this point) is that Tim Cook has reached his
> "Peter's principle". It appears he has trouble with the kingdoms at
> Apple with Jony Ive taking increasngly big amount of power and ruining
> user interfaces and I suspect causing lots of friction within Apple as
> he takes control of other people's functions.

You're getting very boring on this same note. There is nothing 'ruined'
about the UI in iOS 7. I pulled out an old iPod that can't take iOS 7
and boy, is it primitive and limited.

> Back when Jobs was there, Jobs was THE boss, a very stern father who put
> people in their places.

I've never heard anyone characterize Jobs as a 'stern father'. Where do
you get your information? Most people describe Jobs as a bit of a
bastard (most successful people are), arogant, but able to be convinced.
That is to say, he had his opinions, but he listened to the people
around him.

> Tim Cook appears to be more of a manager/diplomat in a company built to

You know nothing about Tim Cook. You are blathering.

-- 
"Hain't we got all the fools in town on our side? And hain't that a big
enough majority in any town?" - Huckleberry Finn

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#35905

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2014-06-01 03:40 +0000
Message-ID<buvllfF7qlkU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#35903
On 2014-06-01, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> In message <538a8f63$0$48024$c3e8da3$5d8fb80f@news.astraweb.com> 
>   JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
>>
>> Tim Cook appears to be more of a manager/diplomat in a company built to
>
> You know nothing about Tim Cook. You are blathering.

Blowing stinky hot air from his ass is what JF Mezei does best.

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JR

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#35911

FromJF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca>
Date2014-06-01 01:43 -0400
Message-ID<538abd7f$0$61390$c3e8da3$5e5e430d@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#35903
On 14-05-31 23:07, Lewis wrote:

> I've never heard anyone characterize Jobs as a 'stern father'. Where do
> you get your information?

His opinions were strong and imposed on Apple products' look and feel,
and Jobs would not use diplomatic wording to voice his opinions on what
staff came up with. If you read his autobiography, you would know he was
the boss and had a very hands on approach to the look/feel of products.

He certaintly was the leader of the Apple family when it came to look
and feel. Tim Cook appears to not have taken this job and instead handed
it over to Jony Ive who is building his empire/control over both
hardware and software. But with out Steve Jobs, Ive came out with brain
dead designs (such as grey text on grey background, the "slide to open"
where only one letter was highligtd at a time, and green on green (was
slighly made less worse with 7.1 bit not fixed) etc. he also removed
functionality from the home screen in an incoming call. And there was
nobody to catch/prevent this. This is the job Steve Jobs used to do.

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#35972

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2014-06-01 18:44 +0000
Message-ID<bv1al1FieubU3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#35911
On 2014-06-01, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> On 14-05-31 23:07, Lewis wrote:
>
>> I've never heard anyone characterize Jobs as a 'stern father'. Where do
>> you get your information?
>
> His opinions were strong and imposed on Apple products' look and feel,
> and Jobs would not use diplomatic wording to voice his opinions on what
> staff came up with. If you read his autobiography, you would know he was
> the boss and had a very hands on approach to the look/feel of products.
>
> He certaintly was the leader of the Apple family when it came to look
> and feel. Tim Cook appears to not have taken this job and instead handed
> it over to Jony Ive who is building his empire/control over both
> hardware and software. But with out Steve Jobs, Ive came out with brain
> dead designs (such as grey text on grey background, the "slide to open"
> where only one letter was highligtd at a time, and green on green (was
> slighly made less worse with 7.1 bit not fixed) etc. he also removed
> functionality from the home screen in an incoming call. And there was
> nobody to catch/prevent this. This is the job Steve Jobs used to do.

More doom and gloom from the Apple-hating troll.

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#35915

FromYour Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Date2014-06-01 18:21 +1200
Message-ID<010620141821357702%YourName@YourISP.com>
In reply to#35899
In article <538a8f63$0$48024$c3e8da3$5d8fb80f@news.astraweb.com>, JF
Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> 
<snip>?
> 
> Meanwhile, there appears to be nothing radically new on the horizon.

There's the iTV and the silly iWatch.  :-)

I can't see why all these stupid watches insist on showing your heart
rate, etc. Who cares? Most of the people buying them wouldn't have a
clue what the number means or is "meant" to be anyway.  :-\

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#35922

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca>
Date2014-06-01 08:38 -0400
Message-ID<eMOdnYTmCoAsgxbOnZ2dnUVZ_qudnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#35915
On 2014.06.01, 02:21 , Your Name wrote:
> In article <538a8f63$0$48024$c3e8da3$5d8fb80f@news.astraweb.com>, JF
> Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
>>
> <snip>?
>>
>> Meanwhile, there appears to be nothing radically new on the horizon.
>
> There's the iTV and the silly iWatch.  :-)
>
> I can't see why all these stupid watches insist on showing your heart
> rate, etc. Who cares? Most of the people buying them wouldn't have a
> clue what the number means or is "meant" to be anyway.  :-\

An iWatch won't be limited to such by a long shot.  Once the app writers 
get going the possibilities will be endless.  Some of the apps will be 
very useful.

Amongst the fitness types, heart rate numbers are very meaningful.

Amongst those with heart issues (arrhythmia and cardiomyopathy in 
particular) such has very deep meaning.  A very obvious app is one that 
records this and other data for later analysis, including by the doctor.

The only social ill with an iWatch is that every time it vibrates the 
user will look at it.  Then everyone around will think he's impatient 
and signalling an end to the conversation or meeting or whatever...

-- 
I was born a 1%er - I'm just more equal than the rest.

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#35920

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca>
Date2014-06-01 08:17 -0400
Message-ID<HMCdnUBDaeZUhBbOnZ2dnUVZ_ridnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#35899
On 2014.05.31, 22:26 , JF Mezei wrote:
> On 14-05-31 13:30, Alan Browne wrote:
>
>> The "big" part of all this seems to be the curation of music (and other
>> things "cultural") by the "trend identifier/setters" of Iovine and Dre.
>
> Replace "trend identifier/setters" with "fad" and you have the value of
> "Beats".
>
> Hopefully Apple can get its 3 billion back before that fad ends.
>
> paying 3 billion bucks to hire Iovine is a lot of money. He is perhaps
> the only long term value in this deal.
>
> When when people around Carly Fiorina realised she had reached above her
> "peter's principle" and was about to be let go from HP, she went out and
> did something bold (buy Compaq). It only bought he a couple of years
> before she was fired.

Why bring up irrelevancies?  Oh yeah - it's you.

>
> My *fear* (just a fear at this point) is that Tim Cook has reached his

Besides the irrelevance of your fears, do not take counsel of them 
(paraphrasing Patton).

> "Peter's principle". It appears he has trouble with the kingdoms at
> Apple with Jony Ive taking increasngly big amount of power and ruining
> user interfaces and I suspect causing lots of friction within Apple as
> he takes control of other people's functions.

Your fantasy about evil Ive and weak Cook is nothing but speculative 
nonsense.

>
> Back when Jobs was there, Jobs was THE boss, a very stern father who put
> people in their places.
>
> Tim Cook appears to be more of a manager/diplomat in a company built to
> require a stern father to guide it

Horseshit.  From what I've read about Cook he extremely demanding, does 
not suffer fools and when you're in a meeting with him you better be 
very well prepared and ready.  If you piss him off it will be very 
clear.  He won't say a word.  No yelling, no tantrums.  Just a cold, 
silent stare.

-- 
I was born a 1%er - I'm just more equal than the rest.

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#35933

FromJF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca>
Date2014-06-01 11:42 -0400
Message-ID<538b4a2f$0$2727$c3e8da3$66d3cc2f@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#35920
On 14-06-01 08:17, Alan Browne wrote:

> Horseshit.  From what I've read about Cook he extremely demanding,

Demanding you deliver what you promised you deliver is not the same
thing as being very demanding that the UI look great/perfect/to his liking.

Case in point: demanding you deliver Apple Maps on time.

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#35935

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca>
Date2014-06-01 11:44 -0400
Message-ID<hPOdnetJfpnC1xbOnZ2dnUVZ_qKdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#35933
On 2014.06.01, 11:42 , JF Mezei wrote:
> On 14-06-01 08:17, Alan Browne wrote:
>
>> Horseshit.  From what I've read about Cook he extremely demanding,
>
> Demanding you deliver what you promised you deliver is not the same
> thing as being very demanding that the UI look great/perfect/to his liking.
>
> Case in point: demanding you deliver Apple Maps on time.

Catch a flight to Cupertino, JF, obviously he needs your coaching.


-- 
I was born a 1%er - I'm just more equal than the rest.

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#35866

FromNews <News@Group.Post>
Date2014-05-31 14:00 -0400
Message-ID<lmd5c8$713$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#35857
On 5/31/2014 1:22 PM, Bert wrote:
> Donald Sterling was forced to "sell" his basketball team because the NBA
> declared him a racist, unfit to own a team.
>
> Brendan Eich was forced out of Mozilla based on his views on same-sex
> marriage.
>
> Paula Dean was forced off the Food Channel based on using
> racially-charged language some years ago.
>
> Phil Robertson was suspended from his "Duck Dynasty" program for
> anti-Gay comments.
>
> Boycotts were threatened in each of these cases.
>
> Now, Apple has made a multi-billion dollar deal with "Dr. Dre," whose
> words and actions exceed anything those others have done, and is rumored
> to be giving him a seat on its board.
>
> What will you all be doing in response?
>

Eschewing fashion victimry.

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#35874

FromMichelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>
Date2014-05-31 13:17 -0700
Message-ID<310520141317591805%michelle@michelle.org>
In reply to#35857
In article <XnsA33EB0D3B4133VeebleFetzer@127.0.0.1>, Bert
<bert@iphouse.com> wrote:

> Now, Apple has made a multi-billion dollar deal with "Dr. Dre," whose
> words and actions exceed anything those others have done,

they have?  Examples, please?

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#35887

FromBert <bert@iphouse.com>
Date2014-05-31 23:05 +0000
Message-ID<XnsA33EB817D3DB8VeebleFetzer@127.0.0.1>
In reply to#35874
In news:310520141317591805%michelle@michelle.org Michelle Steiner
<michelle@michelle.org> wrote: 

> In article <XnsA33EB0D3B4133VeebleFetzer@127.0.0.1>, Bert
><bert@iphouse.com> wrote:
> 
>> Now, Apple has made a multi-billion dollar deal with "Dr. Dre," whose
>> words and actions exceed anything those others have done,
> 
> they have?  Examples, please?

Amazing. 

Good luck, folks.

-- 
bert@iphouse.com	St. Paul, MN

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#35888

FromMichelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>
Date2014-05-31 16:14 -0700
Message-ID<310520141614337491%michelle@michelle.org>
In reply to#35887
In article <XnsA33EB817D3DB8VeebleFetzer@127.0.0.1>, Bert
<bert@iphouse.com> wrote:

> In news:310520141317591805%michelle@michelle.org Michelle Steiner
> <michelle@michelle.org> wrote: 
> 
> > In article <XnsA33EB0D3B4133VeebleFetzer@127.0.0.1>, Bert
> ><bert@iphouse.com> wrote:
> > 
> >> Now, Apple has made a multi-billion dollar deal with "Dr. Dre," whose
> >> words and actions exceed anything those others have done,
> > 
> > they have?  Examples, please?
> 
> Amazing. 
> 
> Good luck, folks.

No examples, huh?

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#35889

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2014-05-31 23:22 +0000
Message-ID<buv6i8F4v3mU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#35888
On 2014-05-31, Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
> In article <XnsA33EB817D3DB8VeebleFetzer@127.0.0.1>, Bert
><bert@iphouse.com> wrote:
>
>> In news:310520141317591805%michelle@michelle.org Michelle Steiner
>> <michelle@michelle.org> wrote: 
>> 
>> > In article <XnsA33EB0D3B4133VeebleFetzer@127.0.0.1>, Bert
>> ><bert@iphouse.com> wrote:
>> > 
>> >> Now, Apple has made a multi-billion dollar deal with "Dr. Dre," whose
>> >> words and actions exceed anything those others have done,
>> > 
>> > they have?  Examples, please?
>> 
>> Amazing. 
>> 
>> Good luck, folks.
>
> No examples, huh?

From a troll? Don't hold your breath.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#35925

FromBert <bert@iphouse.com>
Date2014-06-01 15:00 +0000
Message-ID<XnsA33F98A8A11E6VeebleFetzer@127.0.0.1>
In reply to#35888
In news:310520141614337491%michelle@michelle.org Michelle Steiner
<michelle@michelle.org> wrote: 

> In article <XnsA33EB817D3DB8VeebleFetzer@127.0.0.1>, Bert
><bert@iphouse.com> wrote:
> 
>> In news:310520141317591805%michelle@michelle.org Michelle Steiner
>> <michelle@michelle.org> wrote: 
>> 
>> > In article <XnsA33EB0D3B4133VeebleFetzer@127.0.0.1>, Bert
>> ><bert@iphouse.com> wrote:
>> > 
>> >> Now, Apple has made a multi-billion dollar deal with "Dr. Dre,"
>> >> whose words and actions exceed anything those others have done,
>> > 
>> > they have?  Examples, please?
>> 
>> Amazing. 
>> 
>> Good luck, folks.
> 
> No examples, huh?

I'm simply surprised that anyone who is the least bit aware of what goes
on in the world doesn't know anything about Dre's racism, homophobia,
misogyny and his criminal history.

It's apparent that you don't know or care.

So again, good luck. 

-- 
bert@iphouse.com	St. Paul, MN

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#35929

FromMichelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>
Date2014-06-01 08:23 -0700
Message-ID<010620140823225289%michelle@michelle.org>
In reply to#35925
In article <XnsA33F98A8A11E6VeebleFetzer@127.0.0.1>, Bert
<bert@iphouse.com> wrote:

> >> >> Now, Apple has made a multi-billion dollar deal with "Dr. Dre,"
> >> >> whose words and actions exceed anything those others have done,
> >> > 
> >> > they have?  Examples, please?
> >> 
> >> Amazing. 
> >> 
> >> Good luck, folks.
> > 
> > No examples, huh?
> 
> I'm simply surprised that anyone who is the least bit aware of what goes
> on in the world doesn't know anything about Dre's racism, homophobia,
> misogyny and his criminal history.

Still no examples, huh?

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#35930

FromBert <bert@iphouse.com>
Date2014-06-01 15:28 +0000
Message-ID<XnsA33F9D64BCC40VeebleFetzer@127.0.0.1>
In reply to#35929
In news:010620140823225289%michelle@michelle.org Michelle Steiner
<michelle@michelle.org> wrote: 
 
> Still no examples, huh?

It's apparent that you don't know or care.

So again, good luck. 

-- 
bert@iphouse.com	St. Paul, MN

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#35937

FromMichelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>
Date2014-06-01 09:01 -0700
Message-ID<010620140901473597%michelle@michelle.org>
In reply to#35930
In article <XnsA33F9D64BCC40VeebleFetzer@127.0.0.1>, Bert
<bert@iphouse.com> wrote:

> In news:010620140823225289%michelle@michelle.org Michelle Steiner
> <michelle@michelle.org> wrote: 
>  
> > Still no examples, huh?
> 
> It's apparent that you don't know or care.
> 
> So again, good luck.

It is apparent that I don't know; that's why I'm asking.  If I didn't
care, I wouldn't be asking.

Your refusal/inability to provide examples coupled with your dismissive
attitude indicates that you are making it up, and are nothing but a
troll.

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#35936

Frombknight@conramp.net
Date2014-06-01 10:50 -0500
Message-ID<tmimo9t2353bkts0355klgj1g0v01spmba@4ax.com>
In reply to#35925
On Sun, 1 Jun 2014 15:00:24 +0000 (UTC), Bert <bert@iphouse.com>
wrote:

>In news:310520141614337491%michelle@michelle.org Michelle Steiner
><michelle@michelle.org> wrote: 
>
>> In article <XnsA33EB817D3DB8VeebleFetzer@127.0.0.1>, Bert
>><bert@iphouse.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> In news:310520141317591805%michelle@michelle.org Michelle Steiner
>>> <michelle@michelle.org> wrote: 
>>> 
>>> > In article <XnsA33EB0D3B4133VeebleFetzer@127.0.0.1>, Bert
>>> ><bert@iphouse.com> wrote:
>>> > 
>>> >> Now, Apple has made a multi-billion dollar deal with "Dr. Dre,"
>>> >> whose words and actions exceed anything those others have done,
>>> > 
>>> > they have?  Examples, please?
>>> 
>>> Amazing. 
>>> 
>>> Good luck, folks.
>> 
>> No examples, huh?
>
>I'm simply surprised that anyone who is the least bit aware of what goes
>on in the world doesn't know anything about Dre's racism, homophobia,
>misogyny and his criminal history.


>
>It's apparent that you don't know or care.

It seems that some would like to know more, but don't have Dr. Dre in
their everyday life.   A  quick google didn't note what you're
suggesting, so  cite please.

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