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| Started by | Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> |
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| First post | 2014-05-31 09:09 -0400 |
| Last post | 2014-06-12 05:22 +0000 |
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Does the iPad (recent versions) use 5 GHz WiFi Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-05-31 09:09 -0400
Re: Does the iPad (recent versions) use 5 GHz WiFi Peter Crosland <g6jns@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-05-31 14:19 +0100
Re: Does the iPad (recent versions) use 5 GHz WiFi Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-05-31 10:56 -0400
Re: Does the iPad (recent versions) use 5 GHz WiFi Peter Crosland <g6jns@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-06-01 18:02 +0100
Re: Does the iPad (recent versions) use 5 GHz WiFi Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-01 17:07 -0400
Re: Does the iPad (recent versions) use 5 GHz WiFi nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-01 17:26 -0400
Re: Does the iPad (recent versions) use 5 GHz WiFi Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-01 20:49 -0400
Re: Does the iPad (recent versions) use 5 GHz WiFi Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-01 14:28 -0700
Re: Does the iPad (recent versions) use 5 GHz WiFi dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-06-02 11:10 +1200
Re: Does the iPad (recent versions) use 5 GHz WiFi Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-01 16:26 -0700
Re: Does the iPad (recent versions) use 5 GHz WiFi dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-06-02 11:48 +1200
Re: Does the iPad (recent versions) use 5 GHz WiFi Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-01 17:19 -0700
Re: Does the iPad (recent versions) use 5 GHz WiFi dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-06-02 12:44 +1200
Re: Does the iPad (recent versions) use 5 GHz WiFi Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-01 20:50 -0400
Re: Does the iPad (recent versions) use 5 GHz WiFi Peter Crosland <g6jns@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-06-02 10:46 +0100
Re: Does the iPad (recent versions) use 5 GHz WiFi Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-31 07:23 -0700
Re: Does the iPad (recent versions) use 5 GHz WiFi nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-31 10:51 -0400
Re: Does the iPad (recent versions) use 5 GHz WiFi Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-05-31 10:58 -0400
Re: Does the iPad (recent versions) use 5 GHz WiFi nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-31 11:05 -0400
Re: Does the iPad (recent versions) use 5 GHz WiFi Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-05-31 11:16 -0400
Re: Does the iPad (recent versions) use 5 GHz WiFi Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-31 13:26 -0700
Re: Does the iPad (recent versions) use 5 GHz WiFi Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-05-31 16:41 -0400
Re: Does the iPad (recent versions) use 5 GHz WiFi Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-31 13:54 -0700
Re: Does the iPad (recent versions) use 5 GHz WiFi Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-31 23:01 +0000
Re: Does the iPad (recent versions) use 5 GHz WiFi Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-05-31 19:42 -0400
Re: Does the iPad (recent versions) use 5 GHz WiFi Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-01 02:59 +0000
Re: Does the iPad (recent versions) use 5 GHz WiFi nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-31 23:49 -0400
Re: Does the iPad (recent versions) use 5 GHz WiFi Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-31 21:09 -0700
Re: Does the iPad (recent versions) use 5 GHz WiFi nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-01 00:27 -0400
Re: Does the iPad (recent versions) use 5 GHz WiFi Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-31 21:57 -0700
Re: Does the iPad (recent versions) use 5 GHz WiFi nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-01 01:56 -0400
Re: Does the iPad (recent versions) use 5 GHz WiFi DevilsPGD <boogabooga@crazyhat.net> - 2014-06-05 01:04 -0700
Re: Does the iPad (recent versions) use 5 GHz WiFi Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-05 07:48 -0700
Re: Does the iPad (recent versions) use 5 GHz WiFi Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-05 14:52 +0000
Re: Does the iPad (recent versions) use 5 GHz WiFi DevilsPGD <boogabooga@crazyhat.net> - 2014-06-09 12:06 -0700
Re: Does the iPad (recent versions) use 5 GHz WiFi Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-01 08:05 -0400
Re: Does the iPad (recent versions) use 5 GHz WiFi Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-01 07:50 -0400
Re: Does the iPad (recent versions) use 5 GHz WiFi Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-01 16:57 +0000
Re: Does the iPad (recent versions) use 5 GHz WiFi Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-01 17:05 -0400
Re: Does the iPad (recent versions) use 5 GHz WiFi Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-02 00:48 +0000
Re: Does the iPad (recent versions) use 5 GHz WiFi Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-01 20:53 -0400
Re: Does the iPad (recent versions) use 5 GHz WiFi Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-01 18:48 +0000
Re: Does the iPad (recent versions) use 5 GHz WiFi Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-01 17:22 -0400
Re: Does the iPad (recent versions) use 5 GHz WiFi Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-01 21:43 +0000
Re: Does the iPad (recent versions) use 5 GHz WiFi Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-01 20:55 -0400
Re: Does the iPad (recent versions) use 5 GHz WiFi nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-31 16:41 -0400
Re: Does the iPad (recent versions) use 5 GHz WiFi Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-05-31 16:48 -0400
Re: Does the iPad (recent versions) use 5 GHz WiFi nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-31 16:50 -0400
Re: Does the iPad (recent versions) use 5 GHz WiFi Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-05-31 19:33 -0400
Re: Does the iPad (recent versions) use 5 GHz WiFi Yaxha Campos <yaxha@campos.invalid> - 2014-05-31 20:14 +0000
Re: Does the iPad (recent versions) use 5 GHz WiFi Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-31 20:24 +0000
Re: Does the iPad (recent versions) use 5 GHz WiFi Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-31 13:25 -0700
Re: Does the iPad (recent versions) use 5 GHz WiFi nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-31 16:41 -0400
Re: Does the iPad (recent versions) use 5 GHz WiFi Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-31 13:53 -0700
Re: Does the iPad (recent versions) use 5 GHz WiFi Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-05-31 19:43 -0400
Re: Does the iPad (recent versions) use 5 GHz WiFi nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-31 21:49 -0400
Re: Does the iPad (recent versions) use 5 GHz WiFi Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-05-31 10:54 -0400
Re: Does the iPad (recent versions) use 5 GHz WiFi Peter Crosland <g6jns@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-06-01 18:11 +0100
Re: Does the iPad (recent versions) use 5 GHz WiFi Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-31 19:44 +0000
Re: Does the iPad (recent versions) use 5 GHz WiFi Ed Anson <EdAnson@comcast.net> - 2014-06-09 21:22 -0400
Re: Does the iPad (recent versions) use 5 GHz WiFi Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-09 18:55 -0700
Re: Does the iPad (recent versions) use 5 GHz WiFi dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-06-10 14:43 +1200
Re: Does the iPad (recent versions) use 5 GHz WiFi Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-09 20:44 -0700
Re: Does the iPad (recent versions) use 5 GHz WiFi nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-10 00:04 -0400
Re: Does the iPad (recent versions) use 5 GHz WiFi Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-09 21:07 -0700
Re: Does the iPad (recent versions) use 5 GHz WiFi Lloyd E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-06-10 08:45 -0500
Re: Does the iPad (recent versions) use 5 GHz WiFi Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-10 19:56 +0000
Re: Does the iPad (recent versions) use 5 GHz WiFi DevilsPGD <boogabooga@crazyhat.net> - 2014-06-11 19:15 -0700
Re: Does the iPad (recent versions) use 5 GHz WiFi Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-12 05:22 +0000
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2014-06-01 20:53 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <LLednXXqre1gVxbOnZ2dnUVZ_g6dnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #36008 |
On 2014.06.01, 20:48 , Lewis wrote: > In message <w-GdnT1_rpkvCBbOnZ2dnUVZ_oSdnZ2d@giganews.com> > Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: >> Lewis's favourite song: "Twist and Shout". > > You're being an ass, again. No Lewis. As usual you're in your aggressive tone where if nobody agrees with you they get attacked. I don't care. But I'll shove it back in your face every time. Just because. > >> As I said in an earlier post it's more likely just a simple omission by >> Apple. But that nice, plausible explanation induced you to snip it out. > > Yes, I usually trim posts to only the portions I am replying to. Convenient to ignore the portions that deflate your bluster. -- I was born a 1%er - I'm just more equal than the rest.
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2014-06-01 18:48 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <bv1as5FieubU5@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #35916 |
On 2014-06-01, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: > On 2014.05.31, 22:59 , Lewis wrote: >> In message <jvudnfwokr1U9RfOnZ2dnUVZ_oCdnZ2d@giganews.com> >> Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: >>> On 2014.05.31, 19:01 , Lewis wrote: >>>> In message <es-dnVkjDY38oxfOnZ2dnUVZ_uednZ2d@giganews.com> >>>> Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: >>>>> On 2014.05.31, 16:26 , Michelle Steiner wrote: >>>>>> In article <GoCdnemft67SbxTOnZ2dnUVZ_rKdnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne >>>>>> <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> all ipads have both 2.4 ghz & 5 ghz n. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Nice to know - would be nice if Apple said so on the spec page. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> they do: >>>>>>>> <http://www.apple.com/ipad/compare/> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Good. They certainly didn't on the spec page for iPad that I referenced >>>>>>> in the OP. http://support.apple.com/kb/sp580 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> They mention all sorts of technical minutiae, they shouldn't have left >>>>>>> that out. >>>>>> >>>>>> It says "(802.11a/b/g/n)"; the "a" should have told you. >>>> >>>>> No that wouldn't because I didn't know that "a" is a 5 GHz only spec. >>>> >>>> Your lack of knowledge is now Apple's fault? >>>> >>>>> What they should tell me is if it's 2.4 or 5 GHz or both. >>>> >>>> They did tell you, you just didn't understand it. >> >>> They obfuscated it. >> >> No they didn't. > > By definition, leaving out pertinent information is obfuscation. > >> >>> Out of courtesy to their customers they should make it clear on the >>> spec page >> >> I'm sure the vast, vast majority of the people looking at the spec page >> know what 802.11a is. > > > "The majority of the people looking at" it probably understand less than > 20% of the items on that page. > >> >>> (as they do on the comparison page.) >> >> Where the information is far more likely to be stumble upon by someone >> who wouldn't know about 802.11a. Also, there's the fact that for the >> vast majority of users 5Ghz and 2.4Ghz are meaningless. > > So down at this end of the discussion it's meaningless, but up a few > lines ago everyone's supposed to understand the implicit meaning of 11a? > > You're a very strange fellow Lewis - just as much for the nonsense you > spewed here as for snipping out the rest of what I said. If it matters that much to you guys, why not tell Apple exactly what you would like to see on that page? -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2014-06-01 17:22 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <2sKdnRYqutQdBBbOnZ2dnUVZ_oidnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #35974 |
On 2014.06.01, 14:48 , Jolly Roger wrote: > On 2014-06-01, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: >> On 2014.05.31, 22:59 , Lewis wrote: >>> In message <jvudnfwokr1U9RfOnZ2dnUVZ_oCdnZ2d@giganews.com> >>> Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: >>>> On 2014.05.31, 19:01 , Lewis wrote: >>>>> In message <es-dnVkjDY38oxfOnZ2dnUVZ_uednZ2d@giganews.com> >>>>> Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: >>>>>> On 2014.05.31, 16:26 , Michelle Steiner wrote: >>>>>>> In article <GoCdnemft67SbxTOnZ2dnUVZ_rKdnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne >>>>>>> <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> all ipads have both 2.4 ghz & 5 ghz n. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Nice to know - would be nice if Apple said so on the spec page. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> they do: >>>>>>>>> <http://www.apple.com/ipad/compare/> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Good. They certainly didn't on the spec page for iPad that I referenced >>>>>>>> in the OP. http://support.apple.com/kb/sp580 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> They mention all sorts of technical minutiae, they shouldn't have left >>>>>>>> that out. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It says "(802.11a/b/g/n)"; the "a" should have told you. >>>>> >>>>>> No that wouldn't because I didn't know that "a" is a 5 GHz only spec. >>>>> >>>>> Your lack of knowledge is now Apple's fault? >>>>> >>>>>> What they should tell me is if it's 2.4 or 5 GHz or both. >>>>> >>>>> They did tell you, you just didn't understand it. >>> >>>> They obfuscated it. >>> >>> No they didn't. >> >> By definition, leaving out pertinent information is obfuscation. >> >>> >>>> Out of courtesy to their customers they should make it clear on the >>>> spec page >>> >>> I'm sure the vast, vast majority of the people looking at the spec page >>> know what 802.11a is. >> >> >> "The majority of the people looking at" it probably understand less than >> 20% of the items on that page. >> >>> >>>> (as they do on the comparison page.) >>> >>> Where the information is far more likely to be stumble upon by someone >>> who wouldn't know about 802.11a. Also, there's the fact that for the >>> vast majority of users 5Ghz and 2.4Ghz are meaningless. >> >> So down at this end of the discussion it's meaningless, but up a few >> lines ago everyone's supposed to understand the implicit meaning of 11a? >> >> You're a very strange fellow Lewis - just as much for the nonsense you >> spewed here as for snipping out the rest of what I said. > > If it matters that much to you guys, why not tell Apple exactly what you > would like to see on that page? The page is fine enough - but the absence of that one nugget of detail I was looking for caused me to come here. I certainly didn't think to look at a compare page (since I was not "comparing" models, why would I). To me 11a is meaningless stuff from the past (I doubt I ever used it). 11n devices can use both bands or either band. As to telling Apple, I tried ... that is, there happened at the time to be the little yellow box "would you like to participate in a brief survey" that you see once in a while. So while I could indicate that I didn't find what I was looking for I could not be specific about what was missing... (there was no user comment box). -- I was born a 1%er - I'm just more equal than the rest.
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2014-06-01 21:43 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <bv1l4bFkh86U4@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #35988 |
On 2014-06-01, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: > On 2014.06.01, 14:48 , Jolly Roger wrote: >> >> If it matters that much to you guys, why not tell Apple exactly what you >> would like to see on that page? > > The page is fine enough - but the absence of that one nugget of detail I > was looking for caused me to come here. I certainly didn't think to > look at a compare page (since I was not "comparing" models, why would > I). To me 11a is meaningless stuff from the past (I doubt I ever used > it). 11n devices can use both bands or either band. > > As to telling Apple, I tried ... that is, there happened at the time to > be the little yellow box "would you like to participate in a brief > survey" that you see once in a while. So while I could indicate that I > didn't find what I was looking for I could not be specific about what > was missing... (there was no user comment box). I hear you. They sure could make things better for us and themselves by allowing people to submit comments on every page... -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2014-06-01 20:55 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <LLednXTqre0PVhbOnZ2dnUVZ_g6dnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #35999 |
On 2014.06.01, 17:43 , Jolly Roger wrote: > On 2014-06-01, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: >> On 2014.06.01, 14:48 , Jolly Roger wrote: >>> >>> If it matters that much to you guys, why not tell Apple exactly what you >>> would like to see on that page? >> >> The page is fine enough - but the absence of that one nugget of detail I >> was looking for caused me to come here. I certainly didn't think to >> look at a compare page (since I was not "comparing" models, why would >> I). To me 11a is meaningless stuff from the past (I doubt I ever used >> it). 11n devices can use both bands or either band. >> >> As to telling Apple, I tried ... that is, there happened at the time to >> be the little yellow box "would you like to participate in a brief >> survey" that you see once in a while. So while I could indicate that I >> didn't find what I was looking for I could not be specific about what >> was missing... (there was no user comment box). > > I hear you. They sure could make things better for us and themselves by > allowing people to submit comments on every page... They would need Watson to sort through the deluge but I think IBM have Watson onto pharmaceuticals. I mean, research into, not on ... never mind. -- I was born a 1%er - I'm just more equal than the rest.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-05-31 16:41 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <310520141641332573%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #35877 |
In article <310520141326413131%michelle@michelle.org>, Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote: > > >>> all ipads have both 2.4 ghz & 5 ghz n. > > >> > > >> Nice to know - would be nice if Apple said so on the spec page. > > > > > > they do: > > > <http://www.apple.com/ipad/compare/> > > > > Good. They certainly didn't on the spec page for iPad that I referenced > > in the OP. http://support.apple.com/kb/sp580 > > > > They mention all sorts of technical minutiae, they shouldn't have left > > that out. > > It says "(802.11a/b/g/n)"; the "a" should have told you. told him what, exactly?? he's asking about 802.11n, not 802.11a.
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2014-05-31 16:48 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <3cKdnZjSCO6_3RfOnZ2dnUVZ_uednZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #35880 |
On 2014.05.31, 16:41 , nospam wrote: > In article <310520141326413131%michelle@michelle.org>, Michelle Steiner > <michelle@michelle.org> wrote: > >>>>>> all ipads have both 2.4 ghz & 5 ghz n. >>>>> >>>>> Nice to know - would be nice if Apple said so on the spec page. >>>> >>>> they do: >>>> <http://www.apple.com/ipad/compare/> >>> >>> Good. They certainly didn't on the spec page for iPad that I referenced >>> in the OP. http://support.apple.com/kb/sp580 >>> >>> They mention all sorts of technical minutiae, they shouldn't have left >>> that out. >> >> It says "(802.11a/b/g/n)"; the "a" should have told you. > > told him what, exactly?? > > he's asking about 802.11n, not 802.11a. No. I asked if the iPad used the 5 GHz band. In my OP I pointed to 802.11n assuming that it was where 5 GHz came into WiFi use. -- I was born a 1%er - I'm just more equal than the rest.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-05-31 16:50 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <310520141650224304%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #35881 |
In article <3cKdnZjSCO6_3RfOnZ2dnUVZ_uednZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: > >>>>>> all ipads have both 2.4 ghz & 5 ghz n. > >>>>> > >>>>> Nice to know - would be nice if Apple said so on the spec page. > >>>> > >>>> they do: > >>>> <http://www.apple.com/ipad/compare/> > >>> > >>> Good. They certainly didn't on the spec page for iPad that I referenced > >>> in the OP. http://support.apple.com/kb/sp580 > >>> > >>> They mention all sorts of technical minutiae, they shouldn't have left > >>> that out. > >> > >> It says "(802.11a/b/g/n)"; the "a" should have told you. > > > > told him what, exactly?? > > > > he's asking about 802.11n, not 802.11a. > > No. I asked if the iPad used the 5 GHz band. In my OP I pointed to > 802.11n assuming that it was where 5 GHz came into WiFi use. the 802.11n is implied since nobody uses 802.11a.
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2014-05-31 19:33 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <0-ydnVOBz-tY-xfOnZ2dnUVZ_qSdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #35882 |
On 2014.05.31, 16:50 , nospam wrote: > In article <3cKdnZjSCO6_3RfOnZ2dnUVZ_uednZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne > <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: > >>>>>>>> all ipads have both 2.4 ghz & 5 ghz n. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Nice to know - would be nice if Apple said so on the spec page. >>>>>> >>>>>> they do: >>>>>> <http://www.apple.com/ipad/compare/> >>>>> >>>>> Good. They certainly didn't on the spec page for iPad that I referenced >>>>> in the OP. http://support.apple.com/kb/sp580 >>>>> >>>>> They mention all sorts of technical minutiae, they shouldn't have left >>>>> that out. >>>> >>>> It says "(802.11a/b/g/n)"; the "a" should have told you. >>> >>> told him what, exactly?? >>> >>> he's asking about 802.11n, not 802.11a. >> >> No. I asked if the iPad used the 5 GHz band. In my OP I pointed to >> 802.11n assuming that it was where 5 GHz came into WiFi use. > > the 802.11n is implied since nobody uses 802.11a. Substantiate. -- I was born a 1%er - I'm just more equal than the rest.
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| From | Yaxha Campos <yaxha@campos.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-05-31 20:14 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <lmdd7u$iqf$1@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #35850 |
Alan Browne wrote, on Sat, 31 May 2014 11:16:32 -0400: > They mention all sorts of technical minutiae, > they shouldn't have left that out. They shan't as well have left it out altogether, given the bad that the ipad wifi is compared to my android telephone which sees many 2.4 and 5ghz axess points that the ipad never sees until it is very closed.
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2014-05-31 20:24 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <buus38F3055U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #35872 |
On 2014-05-31, Yaxha Campos <yaxha@campos.invalid> wrote: > Alan Browne wrote, on Sat, 31 May 2014 11:16:32 -0400: > >> They mention all sorts of technical minutiae, >> they shouldn't have left that out. > > They shan't as well have left it out altogether, > given the bad that the ipad wifi is compared > to my android telephone which sees many 2.4 and > 5ghz axess points that the ipad never sees until > it is very closed. iOS filters out WiFi access points whose signals are so weak that connecting to them would result in problematic and slow connectivity. The fact that Android shows you such useless access points isn't a benefit; it means more work for you, the user, while you sift through access points that aren't really worth your time to begin with. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> |
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| Date | 2014-05-31 13:25 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <310520141325057333%michelle@michelle.org> |
| In reply to | #35847 |
In article <310520141051262154%nospam@nospam.invalid>, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: > > According to AirPort Utility it connected via 802.11a/n; that means it > > must be 5GHz, because 801.11n is only at that frequency. > > 802.11n is 2.4 or 5 ghz. typo; I meant 801.11a is only 5GHz. Reading for content instead of nitpicking would have let you realize that.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-05-31 16:41 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <310520141641322499%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #35876 |
In article <310520141325057333%michelle@michelle.org>, Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote: > > > According to AirPort Utility it connected via 802.11a/n; that means it > > > must be 5GHz, because 801.11n is only at that frequency. > > > > 802.11n is 2.4 or 5 ghz. > > typo; I meant 801.11a is only 5GHz. Reading for content instead of > nitpicking would have let you realize that. his question was about 802.11n, so if you meant to say 802.11a, then you wouldn't have been answering his question at all and 802.11a isn't used very much anyway. in other words, there is no content that fits your claim. typo or not, what you said was incorrect.
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| From | Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> |
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| Date | 2014-05-31 13:53 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <310520141353561235%michelle@michelle.org> |
| In reply to | #35879 |
In article <310520141641322499%nospam@nospam.invalid>, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: > In article <310520141325057333%michelle@michelle.org>, Michelle Steiner > <michelle@michelle.org> wrote: > > > > > According to AirPort Utility it connected via 802.11a/n; that means it > > > > must be 5GHz, because 801.11n is only at that frequency. > > > > > > 802.11n is 2.4 or 5 ghz. > > > > typo; I meant 801.11a is only 5GHz. Reading for content instead of > > nitpicking would have let you realize that. > > his question was about 802.11n, so if you meant to say 802.11a, then > you wouldn't have been answering his question at all and 802.11a isn't > used very much anyway. The "a" indicates that it's 5GHz; therefore, the n is also at 5GHz. > in other words, there is no content that fits your claim. In other words, the content fits my claim. > typo or not, what you said was incorrect. If I had written "a" instead of "n", it would have been correct.
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2014-05-31 19:43 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <jvudnf8okr2Z9BfOnZ2dnUVZ_oCdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #35879 |
On 2014.05.31, 16:41 , nospam wrote: > In article <310520141325057333%michelle@michelle.org>, Michelle Steiner > <michelle@michelle.org> wrote: > >>>> According to AirPort Utility it connected via 802.11a/n; that means it >>>> must be 5GHz, because 801.11n is only at that frequency. >>> >>> 802.11n is 2.4 or 5 ghz. >> >> typo; I meant 801.11a is only 5GHz. Reading for content instead of >> nitpicking would have let you realize that. > > his question was about 802.11n, so if you meant to say 802.11a, then > you wouldn't have been answering his question at all and 802.11a isn't > used very much anyway. > > in other words, there is no content that fits your claim. > > typo or not, what you said was incorrect. Not at all. Assuming her typo was real, part of the issue was me not realizing "a" was at 5 GHz. Had I known that, I probably wouldn't have bothered with the question. OTOH, the "a" 5 GHz has a narrower max bandwidth than what is possible with the 5 GHz "n". (20 v. 40 GHz) so it's not exactly an apples/apples case. -- I was born a 1%er - I'm just more equal than the rest.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-05-31 21:49 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <310520142149160317%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #35892 |
In article <jvudnf8okr2Z9BfOnZ2dnUVZ_oCdnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: > >>>> According to AirPort Utility it connected via 802.11a/n; that means it > >>>> must be 5GHz, because 801.11n is only at that frequency. > >>> > >>> 802.11n is 2.4 or 5 ghz. > >> > >> typo; I meant 801.11a is only 5GHz. Reading for content instead of > >> nitpicking would have let you realize that. > > > > his question was about 802.11n, so if you meant to say 802.11a, then > > you wouldn't have been answering his question at all and 802.11a isn't > > used very much anyway. > > > > in other words, there is no content that fits your claim. > > > > typo or not, what you said was incorrect. > > Not at all. Assuming her typo was real, part of the issue was me not > realizing "a" was at 5 GHz. Had I known that, I probably wouldn't have > bothered with the question. > > OTOH, the "a" 5 GHz has a narrower max bandwidth than what is possible > with the 5 GHz "n". (20 v. 40 GHz) so it's not exactly an apples/apples > case. 802.11a is old and no longer used anymore. it was briefly used over a decade ago because it was faster than 802.11b, but then 802.11g came out offering similar speeds and compatibility with existing b equipment, so g became the standard despite being released after 802.11a. 802.11n has two bands, thus i assumed you were asking about that because there is no ambiguity with the others. the question is a good one, because it's not always clear which devices support both 802.11n bands.
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| From | Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> |
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| Date | 2014-05-31 10:54 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <yJidnezmGPm0cBTOnZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #35843 |
On 2014.05.31, 10:23 , Michelle Steiner wrote: > In article <YN-dnf1exuUWSRTOnZ2dnUVZ_uednZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne > <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: > >> http://support.apple.com/kb/sp580 >> Doesn't mention the bands used. >> >> Being 802.11n compliant does not mean one has to implement the 5 GHz band. >> >> Anyone using a 5 GHz WiFi band with their iPad? > > According to AirPort Utility it connected via 802.11a/n; that means it > must be 5GHz, because 801.11n is only at that frequency. Nope. Both 2.4 and 5. It's not about the carrier frequency or channel but about modulation and protocol. For a long time I had a single band 2.4 GHz 11n compliant WiFi (D-Link DIR-655). My new router does both (and your Airport does too). Indeed the reason I'm asking the question is to see if I'll give that WiFi router to a friend who had just bought an iPad and is using a "g" WiFi router (that I also gave him some time ago). If the iPad support 5 GHz, then I'll suggest he buys a dual band WiFi router. -- I was born a 1%er - I'm just more equal than the rest.
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| From | Peter Crosland <g6jns@yahoo.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2014-06-01 18:11 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <ea6dnUTMGPg5wxbOnZ2dnUVZ7sqdnZ2d@brightview.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #35843 |
On 31/05/2014 15:23, Michelle Steiner wrote: > In article <YN-dnf1exuUWSRTOnZ2dnUVZ_uednZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne > <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: > >> http://support.apple.com/kb/sp580 >> Doesn't mention the bands used. >> >> Being 802.11n compliant does not mean one has to implement the 5 GHz band. >> >> Anyone using a 5 GHz WiFi band with their iPad? > > According to AirPort Utility it connected via 802.11a/n; that means it > must be 5GHz, because 801.11n is only at that frequency. According to my D-Link router and this article N is possible on 2.4 and 5GHz. Can yop please provide some evidence this is not the case? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11n-2009#40.C2.A0MHz_in_2.4.C2.A0GHz -- Peter Crosland Reply address is valid
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
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| Date | 2014-05-31 19:44 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnlokc95.keb.g.kreme@amelia.local> |
| In reply to | #35840 |
In message <YN-dnf1exuUWSRTOnZ2dnUVZ_uednZ2d@giganews.com> Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote: > Subject says it all. > http://support.apple.com/kb/sp580 > Doesn't mention the bands used. > Being 802.11n compliant does not mean one has to implement the 5 GHz band. > Anyone using a 5 GHz WiFi band with their iPad? Yes. And on my iPhone. -- Look, that's why there's rules, understand? So that you *think* before you break 'em.
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| From | Ed Anson <EdAnson@comcast.net> |
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| Date | 2014-06-09 21:22 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <u7qdnT41xoR1wAvOnZ2dnUVZ_hKdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #35840 |
On 5/31/14, 9:09 AM, Alan Browne wrote: > Subject says it all. > http://support.apple.com/kb/sp580 > Doesn't mention the bands used. > > Being 802.11n compliant does not mean one has to implement the 5 GHz band. > > Anyone using a 5 GHz WiFi band with their iPad? > > Yes. On my iPad 3, and on my iPhone 5.
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