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How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux?

Started byLiam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com>
First post2014-05-17 10:03 -0500
Last post2014-05-24 16:33 -0500
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  How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-17 10:03 -0500
    Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-17 11:11 -0400
    Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-17 10:23 -0500
      Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-17 12:22 -0400
        Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-17 15:56 -0500
          Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-17 17:26 -0400
            Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-19 10:21 -0500
              Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-19 11:44 -0400
                Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-19 14:18 -0500
                  Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-19 20:34 -0400
                Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-19 16:01 -0500
                  Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-19 20:34 -0400
          Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? TheChris <cabell@nospam.gmail.com> - 2014-05-17 21:58 +0000
            Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-17 19:04 -0400
              Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? TheChris <cabell@nospam.gmail.com> - 2014-05-18 02:01 +0000
                Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-19 10:27 -0500
              Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-05-18 15:58 +0000
            Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-17 19:29 -0500
              Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-17 20:31 -0400
            Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-17 19:30 -0500
              Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? TheChris <cabell@nospam.gmail.com> - 2014-05-18 02:02 +0000
                Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-19 10:30 -0500
                  Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-05-19 09:37 -0700
                  Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? TheChris <cabell@nospam.gmail.com> - 2014-05-20 22:47 +0000
                Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-19 14:21 -0500
                  Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? Wildman <best_lay@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-19 19:53 +0000
                    Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-20 02:28 +0000
                      Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2014-05-19 23:01 -0400
                        Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? Wildman <best_lay@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-20 03:30 +0000
                        Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-20 15:01 +0000
                          Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? TheChris <cabell@nospam.gmail.com> - 2014-05-20 22:50 +0000
                            Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-20 23:58 +0000
                              Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? noydb@no.way (Bruce Sinclair) - 2014-05-20 23:02 +0000
                                Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-21 00:14 +0000
                                  Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-21 05:23 +0000
                                Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-21 05:21 +0000
                                  Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-21 04:43 -0400
                            Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-21 05:19 +0000
                          Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2014-05-21 12:30 +0000
                      Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? Wildman <best_lay@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-20 03:22 +0000
                        Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-20 15:02 +0000
                  Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-05-19 14:57 -0700
                    Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-20 02:29 +0000
                      Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-05-19 20:06 -0700
                        Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-20 15:14 +0000
                  Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-19 16:46 -0500
                    Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-19 22:38 -0500
                  Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-19 20:44 -0700
            Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-17 19:51 -0500
              Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-17 20:52 -0400
                Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-17 20:06 -0500
                  Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-17 21:47 -0400
                    Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? Charles <fort514@mac.com> - 2014-05-18 13:04 -0400
                  Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-18 12:30 -0500
                    Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2014-05-18 13:14 -0500
                    Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-18 15:36 -0400
                      Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-18 16:08 -0500
                        Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-18 17:59 -0400
                      Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-18 16:14 -0500
                      Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-18 16:29 -0500
                        Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-18 17:59 -0400
                        Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-18 18:04 -0500
                          Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-05-18 18:01 -0700
                          Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-18 21:07 -0400
                            Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-05-18 19:08 -0700
                              Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-18 22:26 -0500
                                Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-19 00:05 -0400
                              Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-19 00:04 -0400
                                Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-05-18 21:13 -0700
                                  Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-19 04:20 +0000
                                Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-05-18 21:15 -0700
                                Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-19 10:38 -0500
                                  Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-19 12:28 -0400
                                    Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-19 16:48 -0500
                                      Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-19 23:56 +0000
                                      Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-19 20:34 -0400
                                  Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-19 14:59 -0500
                                    Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-19 20:39 +0000
                                    Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-19 17:55 -0500
                                      Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? Wildman <best_lay@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-19 23:54 +0000
                                        Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-19 23:55 -0500
                                          Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? Wildman <best_lay@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-20 15:42 +0000
                                      Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-19 20:34 -0400
                                    Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-19 20:34 -0400
                              Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-19 14:32 -0500
                                Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-19 20:34 -0400
                              Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-19 14:36 -0500
                                Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-19 20:34 -0400
                              Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-19 14:40 -0500
                                Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-19 20:34 -0400
                              Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-19 14:51 -0500
                                Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-19 20:34 -0400
                            Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-18 22:18 -0500
                              Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-19 00:05 -0400
                              Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-19 15:34 -0500
                                Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-19 20:34 -0400
                            Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-19 10:35 -0500
                              Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-19 12:28 -0400
                                Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-19 16:42 -0500
                                  Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-19 20:34 -0400
                                    Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-05-20 19:10 -0700
                                      Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-21 04:43 -0400
                                        Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-05-21 18:08 -0700
                                          Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-21 23:35 -0400
                                            Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-05-22 09:13 +0200
                                              Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-22 03:32 -0400
                                                Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-05-22 10:26 +0200
                                                  Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-22 05:29 -0400
                                                  Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-22 12:59 -0400
                                                    Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-05-22 20:07 +0200
                                                      Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-22 14:18 -0400
                                                      Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-22 19:59 -0400
                                            Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? DanS <t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t@r.o.a.d.r.u.n.n.e.r.c.o.m> - 2014-05-23 21:37 -0500
                              Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-19 15:10 -0500
                                Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-19 20:34 -0400
                      Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-18 22:10 -0500
                        Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-05-18 21:48 -0700
                      Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-19 15:42 -0500
                        Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-05-19 15:55 -0700
                    Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2014-05-19 09:30 -0400
                  Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-18 16:47 -0500
                    Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-18 17:59 -0400
                      Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-18 18:11 -0500
                        Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-19 00:08 +0000
                          Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-18 19:54 -0500
                            Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-18 21:07 -0400
                              Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-19 01:25 +0000
                                Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-18 21:53 -0400
                                  Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-19 02:36 +0000
                                    Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-19 00:05 -0400
                                      Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2014-05-19 09:39 -0400
                                        Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2014-05-20 06:27 +0000
                                          Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-20 07:40 -0700
                                          Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-20 12:20 -0500
                                            Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-20 10:27 -0700
                                              Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-20 12:40 -0500
                                                Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-20 18:50 -0700
                          Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-18 21:07 -0400
                            Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-19 01:17 +0000
                              Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-18 21:53 -0400
                                Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-19 02:36 +0000
                                  Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-19 00:05 -0400
                                Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-18 21:58 -0500
                        Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-05-18 18:04 -0700
                      Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-18 22:02 -0500
                        Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-19 03:08 +0000
                        Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-19 00:05 -0400
                        Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-19 14:24 -0500
                          Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-19 20:32 +0000
                          Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-05-19 15:06 -0700
                    Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-05-19 00:03 +0200
                      Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-18 18:21 -0400
                      Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-18 18:12 -0500
          Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-17 19:27 -0500
        Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-17 16:02 -0500
          Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-17 17:26 -0400
          Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? TheChris <cabell@nospam.gmail.com> - 2014-05-17 22:03 +0000
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              Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? TheChris <cabell@nospam.gmail.com> - 2014-05-18 02:04 +0000
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    Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug  on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-17 16:08 -0500
      Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-17 17:26 -0400
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            Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug  on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-18 13:06 -0500
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            Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug  on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-18 19:11 -0500
              Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-18 21:07 -0400
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                    Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-29 00:07 -0400
                    Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug  on Linux? AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2014-05-29 11:29 -0400
                      Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug  on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-29 11:50 -0500
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                        Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug  on Linux? AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2014-05-29 17:37 -0400
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              Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug  on Linux? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-19 01:31 +0000
      Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug  on Linux? TheChris <cabell@nospam.gmail.com> - 2014-05-17 21:53 +0000
        Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug  on Linux? John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2014-05-17 17:36 -0500
          Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug  on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-17 19:04 -0400
            Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug  on Linux? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-05-18 11:06 +0200
              Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug  on Linux? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-18 16:21 +0000
                Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-05-18 19:13 +0200
                  Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-18 15:36 -0400
                    Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-05-18 22:08 +0200
                      Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug  on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-18 20:33 -0500
                        Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-18 21:53 -0400
                      Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-19 02:48 +0000
                      Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug  on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-18 22:51 -0500
                        Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug  on Linux? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-19 04:03 +0000
                          Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug  on Linux? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-05-18 21:11 -0700
                        Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-19 00:05 -0400
                          Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug  on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-20 00:00 -0500
                        Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-05-18 22:04 -0700
                          Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-19 06:12 +0000
                      Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug  on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-18 22:54 -0500
                      Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug  on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-18 22:58 -0500
                        Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-19 00:05 -0400
                          Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug  on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-20 00:10 -0500
                      Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug  on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-19 16:11 -0500
                        Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-19 20:34 -0400
                      Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug  on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-20 01:08 -0500
                        Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-20 02:18 -0400
                          Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug  on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-20 01:57 -0500
                            Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-20 03:55 -0400
                Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug  on Linux? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-19 02:47 +0000
              Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug  on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-18 12:41 -0400
            Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug  on Linux? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-18 08:11 -0400
              Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-18 12:41 -0400
              Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug  on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-18 13:13 -0500
                Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug  on Linux? Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@hushmail.com> - 2014-05-18 13:19 -0500
                  Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug  on Linux? Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@hushmail.com> - 2014-05-18 13:23 -0500
                    Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug  on Linux? TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2014-05-18 15:31 -0400
                      Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-18 15:37 -0400
                        Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-05-18 15:48 -0700
                          Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-18 19:36 -0400
                          Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-05-18 17:54 -0700
                            Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-05-18 18:55 -0700
                              Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-05-18 20:22 -0700
                                Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-05-18 20:47 -0700
                                  Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-19 00:05 -0400
                                  Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-05-18 21:59 -0700
                                Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-05-18 20:52 -0700
                                Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-05-18 20:56 -0700
                              Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-19 00:04 -0400
                            Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-05-18 19:03 -0700
                              Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-19 03:03 +0000
                                Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-05-18 20:29 -0700
                                Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-05-18 20:34 -0700
                                Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-05-18 20:36 -0700
                                  Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2014-05-19 20:25 -0400
                                    Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-05-20 19:06 -0700
                                Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-05-18 20:37 -0700
                                Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-05-18 20:38 -0700
                                  Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-19 03:53 +0000
                                    Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-05-18 21:07 -0700
                                  Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-19 00:05 -0400
                                Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-05-18 20:41 -0700
                                  Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-19 00:05 -0400
                                    Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-05-20 18:52 -0700
                                Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-05-18 20:43 -0700
                              Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-05-18 20:39 -0700
                                Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-05-18 21:00 -0700
                                  Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-19 00:05 -0400
                                  Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-05-18 22:12 -0700
                                Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-05-18 21:01 -0700
                                  Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-05-18 22:16 -0700
                            Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-05-18 19:05 -0700
                              Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-05-18 20:40 -0700
                                Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-05-18 21:03 -0700
                                Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-18 22:19 -0700
                                  Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-19 06:10 +0000
                                    Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-05-19 21:24 -0700
                        Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug  on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-18 22:44 -0500
                          Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-05-18 21:58 -0700
                          Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug  on Linux? TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2014-05-20 09:54 -0400
                            Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-05-20 07:26 -0700
                            Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug  on Linux? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-20 15:19 +0000
                        Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug  on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-19 16:00 -0500
                          Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-19 20:34 -0400
                        Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug  on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-20 13:42 -0500
                          Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug  on Linux? Wildman <best_lay@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-20 19:21 +0000
                          Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug  on Linux? TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2014-05-20 19:03 -0400
                        Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug  on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-20 20:54 -0500
                          Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-05-20 19:09 -0700
                          Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug  on Linux? TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2014-05-20 22:35 -0400
                        Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug  on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-20 21:40 -0500
                          Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug  on Linux? Wildman <best_lay@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-21 03:06 +0000
                          Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug  on Linux? "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2014-05-20 23:19 -0400
                          Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-05-20 20:27 -0700
                        Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug  on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-21 06:11 -0500
                          Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-05-21 07:01 -0700
                          Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug  on Linux? TheChris <cabell@nospam.gmail.com> - 2014-05-23 06:44 +0000
                        Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug  on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-21 06:23 -0500
                        Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug  on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-21 06:28 -0500
                        Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug  on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-21 06:54 -0500
                          Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-05-21 07:37 -0700
                          Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-21 12:42 -0400
                            Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug  on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-21 13:03 -0500
                              Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-21 15:04 -0400
                            Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug  on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-21 18:34 -0500
                              Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug  on Linux? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-21 20:04 -0400
                                Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-21 23:35 -0400
                                  Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-22 05:33 -0400
                                    Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-22 12:59 -0400
                                      Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-22 16:23 -0500
                                        Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-22 17:52 -0400
                                          Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-22 18:48 -0400
                                            Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-22 19:59 -0400
                                              Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-22 19:21 -0500
                                                Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-22 22:59 -0400
                                                  Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-23 10:29 -0500
                                            Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-22 19:43 -0700
                                              Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-23 06:07 -0400
                                                Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-23 07:01 -0700
                                                  Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-23 14:04 +0000
                                                    Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-23 12:31 -0400
                                                      Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-23 16:47 +0000
                                                        Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-23 17:03 +0000
                                                          Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-23 14:12 -0400
                                                            Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-23 11:26 -0700
                                                              Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-23 20:45 -0400
                                                              Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-05-23 18:00 -0700
                                                            Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-23 14:30 -0400
                                                          Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-23 11:13 -0700
                                                            Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-23 21:23 +0000
                                                              Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-23 22:28 +0000
                                                              Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-05-23 15:41 -0700
                                                                Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-23 22:54 +0000
                                                                Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-23 23:41 +0000
                                                                Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-24 17:26 -0500
                                                              Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-23 18:58 -0400
                                                              Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-23 17:51 -0700
                                                            Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-05-23 17:58 -0700
                                                              Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-23 18:27 -0700
                                                          Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-23 21:15 +0000
                                                            Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-23 22:23 +0000
                                                              Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-24 17:22 -0500
                                                                Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-25 12:46 -0400
                                                            Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-23 18:58 -0400
                                                              Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-23 23:06 +0000
                                                                Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-23 20:27 -0400
                                                              Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-23 17:48 -0700
                                                            Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-23 23:43 +0000
                                                              Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-24 00:14 +0000
                                                                Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-23 20:27 -0400
                                                                  Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-23 17:50 -0700
                                                                  Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-24 03:35 +0000
                                                          Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-23 21:16 +0000
                                                        Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-23 13:26 -0400
                                                        Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-23 11:11 -0700
                                                          Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-23 22:02 +0000
                                                        Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-23 23:37 +0000
                                                          Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-24 00:12 +0000
                                                            Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-23 20:27 -0400
                                                              Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-24 03:34 +0000
                                                                Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-24 09:05 +0000
                                                                  Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2014-05-24 21:59 +0000
                                                            Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-24 01:22 +0000
                                                            Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-24 09:02 +0000
                                                              Buh bye Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-24 06:52 -0400
                                                            Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-24 17:39 -0500
                                                          Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-23 20:50 -0400
                                                            Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-23 21:14 -0400
                                                  Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-23 11:23 -0400
                                                    Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-23 09:51 -0700
                                                      Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-23 13:26 -0400
                                                      Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-23 14:05 -0400
                                                      Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-23 23:46 +0000
                                                        Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-23 20:53 -0400
                                                          Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-23 21:14 -0400
                                                Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-23 12:31 -0400
                                                  Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-23 16:45 +0000
                                                    Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-23 13:26 -0400
                                                      Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-23 21:51 +0000
                                                        Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-23 18:58 -0400
                                                          Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-23 23:13 +0000
                                                            Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-23 20:27 -0400
                                                              Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-24 03:28 +0000
                                                                Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-24 00:31 -0400
                                                                  Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-24 13:20 +0000
                                                                    Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-24 12:35 -0400
                                                                      Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug  on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-24 12:06 -0500
                                                                        Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug  on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-24 12:15 -0500
                                                                        Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-24 13:45 -0400
                                                                          Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-24 17:37 -0500
                                                                            Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-24 23:25 -0400
                                                                              Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-26 17:04 -0500
                                                                                Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2014-05-26 18:46 -0400
                                                                                  Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-27 12:39 -0400
                                                                                    Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? Brian Reay <no.sp@m.com> - 2014-05-27 19:08 +0000
                                                                                      Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? "Cybe R. Wizard" <Cybe R. Wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2014-05-27 14:43 -0500
                                                                                      Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? "Cybe R. Wizard" <Cybe R. Wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2014-05-27 14:44 -0500
                                                                                        Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? noydb@no.way (Bruce Sinclair) - 2014-05-27 23:17 +0000
                                                                                          Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? "Cybe R. Wizard" <Cybe R. Wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2014-05-27 20:53 -0500
                                                                                            Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? noydb@no.way (Bruce Sinclair) - 2014-05-28 04:22 +0000
                                                                                        Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-28 02:53 +0000
                                                                                      Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-27 15:29 -0500
                                                                                        "Just keep rubbing it in." Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-27 20:11 -0400
                                                                                        Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-27 20:34 -0400
                                                                                          Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-27 20:48 -0500
                                                                                            Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? Brian Reay <no.sp@m.com> - 2014-05-28 09:01 +0000
                                                                                              "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-28 06:20 -0400
                                                                                                Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Brian Reay <no.sp@m.com> - 2014-05-28 11:43 +0100
                                                                                                  Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2014-05-28 12:45 +0100
                                                                                                  Buh bye Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-28 08:20 -0400
                                                                                                  Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." "Cybe R. Wizard" <Cybe R. Wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2014-05-28 08:34 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2014-05-28 14:37 +0100
                                                                                                      Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." "Cybe R. Wizard" <Cybe R. Wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2014-05-28 08:45 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-28 07:15 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." "The Fantum" <foo@bar.com> - 2014-05-28 16:16 -0400
                                                                                                          Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-28 17:27 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-28 07:06 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-05-28 10:55 -0400
                                                                                                      Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Brian Reay <no.sp@m.com> - 2014-05-28 16:12 +0100
                                                                                                        Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." "Cybe R. Wizard" <Cybe R. Wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2014-05-28 10:17 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2014-05-28 18:57 +0100
                                                                                                  Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-28 09:05 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-28 07:21 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-28 12:45 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-28 14:07 -0400
                                                                                                          Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-28 15:41 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-28 17:39 -0400
                                                                                                        Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-28 11:23 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-28 14:06 -0400
                                                                                                    Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-28 14:06 -0400
                                                                                                      Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-28 15:44 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-28 17:39 -0400
                                                                                                        Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-28 18:57 -0400
                                                                                                          Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-28 19:33 -0400
                                                                                                      Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-28 21:39 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-28 18:05 -0400
                                                                                                        Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-28 22:17 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-28 19:03 -0400
                                                                                                            Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-28 19:33 -0400
                                                                                                            Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-28 17:32 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-28 18:56 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-29 00:07 -0400
                                                                                                        Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-05-28 20:24 -0400
                                                                                                          Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-28 19:57 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-29 01:15 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-28 19:09 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-29 10:40 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-29 09:35 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-29 12:09 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-29 11:00 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2014-05-29 09:02 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-29 16:18 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-29 00:07 -0400
                                                                                                          Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-29 01:05 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-29 01:18 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-29 01:32 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-29 01:45 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-29 02:13 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-29 05:06 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-28 22:40 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-29 01:49 -0400
                                                                                                                        Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-29 09:04 -0700
                                                                                                                          Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-29 13:26 -0400
                                                                                                                            Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-29 11:39 -0700
                                                                                                                              Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-29 17:39 -0400
                                                                                                                              Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-30 04:43 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2014-05-30 04:52 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-29 06:08 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-05-29 09:45 -0700
                                                                                                                        Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-29 10:09 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-29 00:07 -0400
                                                                                                                  Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-29 16:31 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-29 16:45 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-29 17:10 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-29 17:17 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-29 19:41 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-29 19:45 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-29 13:52 -0700
                                                                                                                            Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-30 04:53 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-30 13:01 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-30 11:06 -0400
                                                                                                                        Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-29 12:42 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-29 18:17 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-29 10:00 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-28 19:10 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-05-28 22:42 -0400
                                                                                                              Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-29 14:49 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-29 13:26 -0400
                                                                                                                  Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-29 11:30 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-29 21:48 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-29 22:11 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-30 04:40 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-29 18:31 -0400
                                                                                                                    Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-05-29 21:51 -0400
                                                                                                                      Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-30 02:04 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-30 06:22 -0400
                                                                                                                Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-05-29 21:45 -0400
                                                                                                                  Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-30 02:04 +0000
                                                                                                                  "Desktop productivity OS" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-30 06:20 -0400
                                                                                                                    Re: "Desktop productivity OS" nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-30 08:17 -0400
                                                                                                            Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-29 00:07 -0400
                                                                                                              Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-29 16:28 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-29 16:39 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-29 17:09 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-29 17:22 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-29 18:48 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-29 13:26 -0400
                                                                                                                      Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-29 18:50 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-29 12:03 -0700
                                                                                                                        Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-29 19:30 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-29 17:39 -0400
                                                                                                                        Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2014-06-01 11:02 -0400
                                                                                                                          Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-06-01 08:16 -0700
                                                                                                                            Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-01 11:33 -0400
                                                                                                                              Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-06-01 09:03 -0700
                                                                                                                                Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-01 12:12 -0400
                                                                                                                              Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-06-01 16:25 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-01 12:26 -0400
                                                                                                                                Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-01 09:41 -0700
                                                                                                                                Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-01 17:16 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-06-01 19:23 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-01 14:30 -0700
                                                                                                                                    Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-01 21:37 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-02 01:03 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-06-02 02:01 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-01 19:36 -0700
                                                                                                                              Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2014-06-01 18:30 -0400
                                                                                                                        Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-01 11:39 -0400
                                                                                                                          Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-06-01 16:30 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: the incredible self server Silver Slimer Fenrig <F.v@mail.chem.tu-berlin.de> - 2014-06-01 12:43 -0400
                                                                                                                              Re: the incredible self server Silver Slimer Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-01 18:41 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: the incredible self server Silver Slimer Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-06-01 18:51 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: the incredible self server Silver Slimer Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-01 19:02 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: the incredible self server Silver Slimer Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-06-01 19:39 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: the incredible self server Silver Slimer Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-01 17:16 -0400
                                                                                                                                  Re: the incredible self server Silver Slimer Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-06-01 21:39 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: the incredible self server Silver Slimer nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-01 17:44 -0400
                                                                                                                                    Re: the incredible self server Silver Slimer Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-01 16:00 -0700
                                                                                                                                    Re: the incredible self server Silver Slimer Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-02 01:07 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: the incredible self server Silver Slimer Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-01 21:08 -0400
                                                                                                                            Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-01 17:20 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-06-01 19:24 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-01 14:30 -0700
                                                                                                                                  Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-01 21:41 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-02 01:05 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-01 17:18 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-01 17:12 -0400
                                                                                                                              Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-06-01 21:33 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-29 09:55 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-29 17:09 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-29 10:18 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-29 19:38 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-29 13:49 -0700
                                                                                                                        Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-29 17:39 -0400
                                                                                                                        Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-30 04:49 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-30 13:01 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-05-29 19:26 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-30 06:05 -0400
                                                                                                                      Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-30 13:04 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-30 09:15 -0700
                                                                                                                        Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-30 16:26 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-30 12:35 -0400
                                                                                                                            Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-30 09:57 -0700
                                                                                                                          Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-30 09:54 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-30 09:07 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-05-30 18:39 -0700
                                                                                                                        Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-30 18:43 -0700
                                                                                                                          Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-31 01:54 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-31 02:00 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-05-30 19:14 -0700
                                                                                                                            Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-30 19:32 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-29 13:26 -0400
                                                                                                                  Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-29 19:49 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-29 19:58 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-29 14:03 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-29 17:39 -0400
                                                                                                            Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-29 05:03 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-29 06:03 -0400
                                                                                                            Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-29 17:00 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-29 13:26 -0400
                                                                                                        Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-29 05:02 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Brian Reay <no.sp@m.com> - 2014-05-29 06:08 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-29 10:44 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-29 09:54 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-29 12:20 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-29 11:04 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-29 13:26 -0400
                                                                                                      Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-05-29 00:10 +0200
                                                                                                        Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-28 18:41 -0400
                                                                                                          Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Wildman <best_lay@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-29 00:20 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-28 20:19 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-29 01:41 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-29 05:59 -0400
                                                                                                                  Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-29 10:39 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-29 16:21 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-29 16:24 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-29 13:41 -0400
                                                                                                                      Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-29 17:55 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-29 16:03 -0400
                                                                                                                          Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-29 20:21 +0000
                                                                                                                            Buh bye Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-30 06:03 -0400
                                                                                                                              Re: Buh bye Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-30 15:58 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: Buh bye Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-30 16:04 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: Buh bye Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-30 16:05 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: Buh bye Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-30 16:16 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: Buh bye Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-30 16:28 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Buh bye Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-30 16:37 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Buh bye Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-30 10:00 -0700
                                                                                                                              Re: Buh bye Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-30 16:11 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: Buh bye Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-30 16:25 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: Buh bye Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-05-30 18:37 +0200
                                                                                                                                  Re: Buh bye Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-30 16:45 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: Buh bye nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-30 13:15 -0400
                                                                                                                                      Re: Buh bye Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-30 17:17 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: Buh bye Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-30 17:33 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Buh bye Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-30 17:28 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: Buh bye Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-30 10:38 -0700
                                                                                                                                          Re: Buh bye nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-30 14:40 -0400
                                                                                                                                        Re: Buh bye nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-30 14:40 -0400
                                                                                                                                      Re: Buh bye Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-05-30 11:05 -0700
                                                                                                                                        Re: Buh bye nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-30 14:40 -0400
                                                                                                                                          Re: Buh bye Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-30 18:47 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: Buh bye Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-30 18:47 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: Buh bye Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-30 19:29 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: Buh bye Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-30 21:57 +0000
                                                                                                                                              Re: Buh bye Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-30 17:13 -0700
                                                                                                                                    Re: Buh bye Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-30 17:27 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: Buh bye DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-05-30 18:48 -0700
                                                                                                                                      Re: Buh bye nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-30 22:11 -0400
                                                                                                                                        Re: Buh bye DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-05-30 19:21 -0700
                                                                                                                                          Re: Buh bye nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-30 22:33 -0400
                                                                                                                                          Re: Buh bye Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-31 03:07 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: Buh bye DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-05-30 20:19 -0700
                                                                                                                                              Re: Buh bye Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-31 04:40 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: Buh bye DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-05-31 07:40 -0700
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Buh bye Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-31 17:14 +0000
                                                                                                                                              Re: Buh bye Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2014-05-31 05:54 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: Buh bye DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-05-30 20:20 -0700
                                                                                                                                              Re: Buh bye Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-31 04:42 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: Buh bye DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-05-31 07:44 -0700
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Buh bye Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-31 17:14 +0000
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Buh bye Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-31 18:24 +0000
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Buh bye DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-05-31 13:13 -0700
                                                                                                                                            Re: Buh bye DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-05-30 20:22 -0700
                                                                                                                                              Re: Buh bye Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-31 04:43 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: Buh bye Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2014-05-31 03:34 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Buh bye Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-31 02:14 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: Buh bye DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-05-30 19:22 -0700
                                                                                                                                          Re: Buh bye Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-31 03:08 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: Buh bye DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-05-30 20:23 -0700
                                                                                                                                              Re: Buh bye Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-31 04:43 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Buh bye Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-05-31 14:15 -0400
                                                                                                                                        Re: Buh bye DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-05-31 13:14 -0700
                                                                                                                                  Re: Buh bye Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-30 10:01 -0700
                                                                                                                                    Re: Buh bye Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-30 17:29 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Buh bye Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-30 10:36 -0700
                                                                                                                                        Re: Buh bye Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-05-30 11:09 -0700
                                                                                                                                  Re: Buh bye Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-30 15:48 -0400
                                                                                                                                    Re: Buh bye Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-30 20:06 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: Buh bye nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-30 16:52 -0400
                                                                                                                                      Re: Buh bye Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-30 22:02 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: Buh bye Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2014-05-30 22:25 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Buh bye Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-30 09:43 -0700
                                                                                                                                Re: Buh bye JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-30 12:19 -0500
                                                                                                                                  Re: Buh bye Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-30 17:39 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: Buh bye Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-30 18:45 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: Buh bye Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-30 10:52 -0700
                                                                                                                                    Re: Buh bye JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-30 13:15 -0500
                                                                                                                                      Re: Buh bye Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-30 18:34 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: Buh bye Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-30 21:44 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Buh bye Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-05-30 17:27 -0400
                                                                                                                                      Re: Buh bye Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-30 14:46 -0700
                                                                                                                                    Re: Buh bye Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-30 18:45 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: Buh bye Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-30 17:31 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: Buh bye Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-30 10:54 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-29 13:56 -0400
                                                                                                                      Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-29 11:44 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2014-05-30 04:55 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-30 05:16 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-05-30 09:41 +0200
                                                                                                                          Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-30 15:49 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-30 16:03 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-30 09:49 -0700
                                                                                                                              Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-30 16:57 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-30 17:32 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-30 17:31 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-28 19:14 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-29 10:36 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-29 01:09 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-29 00:07 -0400
                                                                                                              Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-29 16:38 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-29 17:03 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-29 13:26 -0400
                                                                                                                    Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-29 17:51 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-29 18:46 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-29 11:53 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-29 21:53 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-29 18:31 -0400
                                                                                                                    Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-29 19:26 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-29 13:34 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-29 17:39 -0400
                                                                                                                    Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-30 04:57 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-30 13:02 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-30 09:30 -0700
                                                                                                                        Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-30 21:36 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-30 22:31 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-05-30 18:24 -0400
                                                                                                                      Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-30 23:50 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-31 06:02 -0400
                                                                                                                        Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-31 12:16 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2014-05-31 13:47 +0100
                                                                                                                          Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-05-31 08:48 -0400
                                                                                                                        Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-05-31 08:43 -0400
                                                                                                                          Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-31 12:38 -0400
                                                                                                                            Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-05-31 13:59 -0400
                                                                                                                              Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-31 18:18 -0400
                                                                                                                Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-29 13:26 -0400
                                                                                                                Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-29 12:16 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-29 13:56 -0400
                                                                                                                Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-30 04:55 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-30 13:02 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-29 10:30 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-05-29 09:37 +0200
                                                                                                        Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-28 18:59 -0400
                                                                                                          Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-29 01:10 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-29 01:23 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-29 01:40 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-29 01:47 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-29 00:07 -0400
                                                                                                                  Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-29 16:39 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-29 17:05 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-29 10:05 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-29 18:47 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-29 11:56 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-29 13:26 -0400
                                                                                                                      Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-29 11:07 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-29 19:45 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-29 19:56 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-29 13:54 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-29 06:22 -0400
                                                                                                                Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-29 16:27 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-29 13:42 -0400
                                                                                                            Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-28 19:12 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-29 10:32 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-29 00:07 -0400
                                                                                                            Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-29 05:11 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-28 17:25 -0500
                                                                                                Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-28 14:07 -0400
                                                                                                  Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-28 15:45 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-28 18:56 -0400
                                                                                                      Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-28 19:33 -0400
                                                                                                        Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-29 01:24 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-29 00:07 -0400
                                                                                                            Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-29 16:47 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-29 13:26 -0400
                                                                                                              Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-29 12:19 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-29 05:17 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2014-05-29 10:06 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-29 06:35 -0400
                                                                                                              Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-05-29 09:49 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-29 13:26 -0400
                                                                                                            Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-29 10:35 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-29 16:29 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-05-29 10:01 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-29 12:10 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-05-29 10:44 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2014-05-29 10:02 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: "The mopping up phase can be fun..." Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-29 06:33 -0400
                                                                                              Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-28 09:00 -0500
                                                                                                Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-28 14:06 -0400
                                                                                              Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2014-05-28 12:46 +0000
                                                                                              Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-28 14:06 -0400
                                                                                                Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-28 13:30 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-28 15:31 -0400
                                                                                                    Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-28 15:26 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-28 20:48 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-28 16:28 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-28 17:39 -0400
                                                                                                          Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-28 22:08 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-28 19:00 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-29 00:07 -0400
                                                                                                        Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-28 17:18 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-28 22:27 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-28 18:41 -0400
                                                                                                        Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-28 20:25 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-29 00:07 -0400
                                                                                                      Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-28 15:48 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-28 21:19 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-28 16:39 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-28 18:05 -0400
                                                                                                          Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-28 19:07 -0400
                                                                                                            Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-28 19:33 -0400
                                                                                                            Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-28 19:05 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-28 17:39 -0400
                                                                                                      Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-28 17:39 -0400
                                                                                                      Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-28 17:10 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-28 19:03 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-29 00:40 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-29 00:07 -0400
                                                                                            Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-28 14:06 -0400
                                                                                              Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-28 15:51 -0500
                                                                                      "Just keep rubbing it in.  Never let up." Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-27 20:08 -0400
                                                                                        Re: "Just keep rubbing it in.  Never let up." "Cybe R. Wizard" <Cybe R. Wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2014-05-27 20:58 -0500
                                                                                Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-27 12:39 -0400
                                                                          Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug  on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-24 23:52 -0500
                                                                            Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug  on Linux? Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-25 12:48 +0000
                                                                          Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug  on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-25 00:07 -0500
                                                                        Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug  on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-24 13:09 -0500
                                                                          Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-24 14:25 -0400
                                                                            Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug  on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-24 16:31 -0500
                                                                              Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-24 18:57 -0400
                                                                              Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug  on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-24 21:23 -0500
                                                                                Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-24 23:25 -0400
                                                                                Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug  on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-24 23:32 -0500
                                                                                  Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug  on Linux? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-25 07:25 -0400
                                                                                  Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-25 11:49 -0400
                                                                                Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug  on Linux? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-25 07:24 -0400
                                                                                  Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug  on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-25 09:06 -0500
                                                                                    Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug  on Linux? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-25 12:21 -0400
                                                                                      Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-25 13:16 -0400
                                                                                        Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-05-25 10:31 -0700
                                                                                          Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-25 14:00 -0400
                                                                                          Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-25 11:17 -0700
                                                                                          Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-25 20:57 -0400
                                                                                            Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-25 21:16 -0400
                                                                                              Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-05-25 19:09 -0700
                                                                                                Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-26 09:18 -0400
                                                                                                  Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-05-26 09:37 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-26 10:00 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-05-26 10:09 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-26 13:58 -0700
                                                                                            Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Wildman <best_lay@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-26 04:30 +0000
                                                                                              Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-26 06:15 +0000
                                                                                                Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-05-25 23:37 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? Brian Reay <no.sp@m.com> - 2014-05-26 07:51 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? "Cybe R. Wizard" <Cybe R. Wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2014-05-26 07:28 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-26 09:18 -0400
                                                                                                        Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-05-26 09:38 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2014-05-27 06:45 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-27 12:39 -0400
                                                                                                            Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-27 11:46 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-27 13:22 -0400
                                                                                                            Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? noydb@no.way (Bruce Sinclair) - 2014-05-27 23:19 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2014-05-28 12:31 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-28 14:06 -0400
                                                                                                                Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-28 15:51 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2014-05-29 11:50 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-05-26 09:07 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-27 05:26 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug on Linux? "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2014-05-27 12:17 +0100
                                                                                                  Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-26 07:53 -0400
                                                                                                    Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-26 09:18 -0400
                                                                                                Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-26 13:13 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-26 09:18 -0400
                                                                                                    Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-26 16:23 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-27 05:30 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-27 13:22 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-27 09:19 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-27 12:39 -0400
                                                                                                        Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-27 17:40 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-27 20:34 -0400
                                                                                                            Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-28 17:00 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-28 14:06 -0400
                                                                                                                Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-28 21:33 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-28 18:05 -0400
                                                                                                      Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-28 02:48 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? "Tom A." <TA@noplace.com> - 2014-05-28 09:37 -0400
                                                                                                          Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2014-05-28 11:34 -0400
                                                                                                          Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-28 18:03 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> - 2014-05-28 17:02 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-28 12:49 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-28 14:06 -0400
                                                                                                Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2014-05-26 11:08 -0400
                                                                                                  Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? noydb@no.way (Bruce Sinclair) - 2014-05-26 23:45 +0000
                                                                                                    The new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust.... Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-27 06:30 -0400
                                                                                                Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? Wildman <best_lay@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-26 16:58 +0000
                                                                                          Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-26 17:12 -0500
                                                                                            Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-27 12:39 -0400
                                                                                        Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust bug  on Linux? DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-05-25 10:32 -0700
                                                                                      Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug  on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-25 12:53 -0500
                                                                                Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug  on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-25 09:12 -0500
                                                                                  Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug  on Linux? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-25 12:22 -0400
                                                                            Re: How to work around the new Apple iOS7 infinite loop of mistrust  bug  on Linux? Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-05-24 16:33 -0500

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#35072

FromChris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
Date2014-05-23 14:12 -0400
Message-ID<llo32h$mqi$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#35058
Jolly Roger wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On 2014-05-23, Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> wrote:
>> On Fri, 23 May 2014 12:31:48 -0400, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> posted
>> (230520141231480648nospamospam@nospam.invalid):
>>
>>> In article <llnkia$3qk$3@dont-email.me>, Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> The problem is that converting from a lossy file like WMA (which
>>>> produces terrible audio, even WMA Pro) is that you end up with an audio
>>>> file which sounds even worse than the original.
>>> 
>>> the problem is that wma is microsoft proprietary and must be converted
>>> to a standard format for non-microsoft licensed devices to be able to
>>> play it.
>>> 
>>> microsoft will not license ipods, so apple *has* to transcode it.
>>> 
>>> had the music been encoded in a non-proprietary format in the first
>>> place, there would be no need to transcode anything.
>>> 
>>> in other words, the problem is microsoft.
>>
>> See my previous post. iTunes doesn't support two well-known free codecs 
>> in Vorbis and FLAC and a third lesser-known one in Opus. There is no 
>> license restrictions for any of them. Meanwhile, the formats which iTunes 
>> and iThings DO support all have license restrictions.
>
> iTunes has been able to play FLAC and Ogg for many years now:
>
> <http://www.pcworld.com/article/169606/article.html>

No thanks to Apple, for that one.

> <https://www.xiph.org/flac/download.html>
> <https://www.xiph.org/quicktime/download.html>

> It's really best to know a little about something before you make such
> claims.

From the first link:

   Note that even with Fluke's components installed I couldn't make iTunes
   accept FLAC files until I changed their extension from .flac to .mov.
   Once I did that, iTunes was happy to have them.

And apparently it won't work with iTunes running in 64-bit mode.

<chuckle>

-- 
I am a deeply superficial person.
		-- Andy Warhol

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#35075

FromMichelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>
Date2014-05-23 11:26 -0700
Message-ID<230520141126273781%michelle@michelle.org>
In reply to#35072
In article <llo32h$mqi$3@dont-email.me>, Chris Ahlstrom
<OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:

> > iTunes has been able to play FLAC and Ogg for many years now:
> >
> > <http://www.pcworld.com/article/169606/article.html>
> 
> No thanks to Apple, for that one.

yes, thanks to Apple.  Apple allows it to happen.

> > <https://www.xiph.org/flac/download.html>
> > <https://www.xiph.org/quicktime/download.html>
> 
> > It's really best to know a little about something before you make such
> > claims.
> 
> From the first link:
> 
>    Note that even with Fluke's components installed I couldn't make iTunes
>    accept FLAC files until I changed their extension from .flac to .mov.
>    Once I did that, iTunes was happy to have them.

And that is such a hindrance.  OMG, it must take a genius to be able to
convert those file extensions.

> And apparently it won't work with iTunes running in 64-bit mode.

That's the fault of the xiph.org, not of iTunes.  Maybe they should
stop living in the past.

> <chuckle>

The feeble minded are easily amused.

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#35153

FromChris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
Date2014-05-23 20:45 -0400
Message-ID<lloq3l$epr$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#35075
["Followup-To:" header set to alt.os.linux.ubuntu.]
Michelle Steiner wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> In article <llo32h$mqi$3@dont-email.me>, Chris Ahlstrom
> <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
>
>> > iTunes has been able to play FLAC and Ogg for many years now:
>> >
>> > <http://www.pcworld.com/article/169606/article.html>
>> 
>> No thanks to Apple, for that one.
>
> yes, thanks to Apple.  Apple allows it to happen.
>
>> > <https://www.xiph.org/flac/download.html>
>> > <https://www.xiph.org/quicktime/download.html>
>> 
>> > It's really best to know a little about something before you make such
>> > claims.
>> 
>> From the first link:
>> 
>>    Note that even with Fluke's components installed I couldn't make iTunes
>>    accept FLAC files until I changed their extension from .flac to .mov.
>>    Once I did that, iTunes was happy to have them.
>
> And that is such a hindrance.  OMG, it must take a genius to be able to
> convert those file extensions.

Heh heh.  We have a Mac troll in comp.os.linux.advocacy who rails about the
inconvenience, inconsistency, or difficult of having to know such things.

>> And apparently it won't work with iTunes running in 64-bit mode.
>
> That's the fault of the xiph.org, not of iTunes.  Maybe they should
> stop living in the past.

What?  Xiph on Linux supports 64-bit operating systems.  What's the issue
with iTunes on OSX?

   https://www.xiph.org/quicktime/faq.html#faq_itunes_64bit

   Apple doesn't publish a 64 bit API for Quicktime, so the current XiphQT
   components are 32 bit. Recent Mac OS X on recent MacBooks defaults to
   running iTunes in 64 bit mode. There's an extra install step necessary
   to use XiphQT on 64 bit machines:

   "show in finder" your iTunes binary (either navigate to the Applications
   folder, or right/control click on it in the dock, and choose "show
   in finder") right/control click on iTunes in the finder, and
   select "Get Info" Under General, check the box marked "Open in 32-bit
   mode"

   After an iTunes or Mac OS X upgrade, the iTunes install on a 64 bit
   machine might have reverted to running in 64 bit mode. 

>> <chuckle>
>
> The feeble minded are easily amused.

Whatever.  Your feeble-minded insult game is not amusing.  Try
investigating a bit before shooting your mouth off, please.

-- 
Air Force Inertia Axiom:
	Consistency is always easier to defend than correctness.

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#35162

FromDecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org>
Date2014-05-23 18:00 -0700
Message-ID<vmrvn9to5ct0q2gkl5bsrncghmkb9l40e1@4ax.com>
In reply to#35075
On Fri, 23 May 2014 11:26:27 -0700, Michelle Steiner
<michelle@michelle.org> Gave us:

>And that is such a hindrance.  OMG, it must take a genius to be able to
>convert those file extensions.

  Should NOT have to do so.  MORE retardation, fooly accepted by yet
another bandwagon riding fool.

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#35078

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2014-05-23 14:30 -0400
Message-ID<230520141430338060%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#35072
In article <llo32h$mqi$3@dont-email.me>, Chris Ahlstrom
<OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:

> > iTunes has been able to play FLAC and Ogg for many years now:
> >
> > <http://www.pcworld.com/article/169606/article.html>
> 
> No thanks to Apple, for that one.
> 
> > <https://www.xiph.org/flac/download.html>
> > <https://www.xiph.org/quicktime/download.html>
> 
> > It's really best to know a little about something before you make such
> > claims.
> 
> From the first link:
> 
>    Note that even with Fluke's components installed I couldn't make iTunes
>    accept FLAC files until I changed their extension from .flac to .mov.
>    Once I did that, iTunes was happy to have them.
> 
> And apparently it won't work with iTunes running in 64-bit mode.
> 
> <chuckle>

that it won't run in 64 bit mode is not apple's fault.

if there was sufficient demand, it would be updated to be 64 bit
compatible.

plus the first link is from 2009 and it probably has been updated since
then.

but why let facts get in the way.

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#35073

FromMichelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>
Date2014-05-23 11:13 -0700
Message-ID<230520141113387601%michelle@michelle.org>
In reply to#35058
In article <bu9dbgFh3cuU1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
<jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> It's really best to know a little about something before you make such
> claims.

Why should he?  He's an Applephobe.  Do you expect Klansmen to know
anything about African Americans before making claims about them?  Do
you expect homophobes to know anything about gays before making claims
against them?

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#35099

FromSilver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca>
Date2014-05-23 21:23 +0000
Message-ID<lloe8m$u84$9@dont-email.me>
In reply to#35073
On Fri, 23 May 2014 11:13:38 -0700, Michelle Steiner
<michelle@michelle.org> posted (230520141113387601%michelle@michelle.org):

> In article <bu9dbgFh3cuU1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
> <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> 
>> It's really best to know a little about something before you make such
>> claims.
> 
> Why should he?  He's an Applephobe.  Do you expect Klansmen to know
> anything about African Americans before making claims about them?  Do
> you expect homophobes to know anything about gays before making claims
> against them?

Out of curiosity, why are pro-Apple people in alt.os.linux.ubuntu anyway?

-- 
Silver Slimer
OpenMedia & Ubuntu Supporter
www.silverlips.ca

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#35108

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2014-05-23 22:28 +0000
Message-ID<bua0c3Fkcl5U3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#35099
On 2014-05-23, Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> wrote:
> On Fri, 23 May 2014 11:13:38 -0700, Michelle Steiner
><michelle@michelle.org> posted (230520141113387601%michelle@michelle.org):
>
>> In article <bu9dbgFh3cuU1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
>> <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> It's really best to know a little about something before you make such
>>> claims.
>> 
>> Why should he?  He's an Applephobe.  Do you expect Klansmen to know
>> anything about African Americans before making claims about them?  Do
>> you expect homophobes to know anything about gays before making claims
>> against them?
>
> Out of curiosity, why are pro-Apple people in alt.os.linux.ubuntu anyway?

Have a look at the Newsgroups header.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#35109

FromSavageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com>
Date2014-05-23 15:41 -0700
Message-ID<2014052315412286643-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>
In reply to#35099
On 2014-05-23 21:23:34 +0000, Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> said:

> On Fri, 23 May 2014 11:13:38 -0700, Michelle Steiner
> <michelle@michelle.org> posted (230520141113387601%michelle@michelle.org):
> 
>> In article <bu9dbgFh3cuU1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
>> <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> It's really best to know a little about something before you make such
>>> claims.
>> 
>> Why should he?  He's an Applephobe.  Do you expect Klansmen to know
>> anything about African Americans before making claims about them?  Do
>> you expect homophobes to know anything about gays before making claims
>> against them?
> 
> Out of curiosity, why are pro-Apple people in alt.os.linux.ubuntu anyway?

...because the World functions outside of Linux, and if you took the 
trouble to follow this thread back to the OP (a Linux user) you might 
have noted he had an iPad/linux related question and he presented us 
with a legitimate cross post in an effort to seek out an answer.

-- 
Regards,

Savageduck

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#35112

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2014-05-23 22:54 +0000
Message-ID<bua1saFkcl5U5@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#35109
On 2014-05-23, Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
> On 2014-05-23 21:23:34 +0000, Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> said:
>
>> On Fri, 23 May 2014 11:13:38 -0700, Michelle Steiner
>> <michelle@michelle.org> posted (230520141113387601%michelle@michelle.org):
>> 
>>> In article <bu9dbgFh3cuU1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
>>> <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> It's really best to know a little about something before you make such
>>>> claims.
>>> 
>>> Why should he?  He's an Applephobe.  Do you expect Klansmen to know
>>> anything about African Americans before making claims about them?  Do
>>> you expect homophobes to know anything about gays before making claims
>>> against them?
>> 
>> Out of curiosity, why are pro-Apple people in alt.os.linux.ubuntu anyway?
>
> ...because the World functions outside of Linux, and if you took the 
> trouble to follow this thread back to the OP (a Linux user) you might 
> have noted he had an iPad/linux related question and he presented us 
> with a legitimate cross post in an effort to seek out an answer.

+1

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#35126

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2014-05-23 23:41 +0000
Message-ID<slrnlnvn58.mls.g.kreme@amelia.local>
In reply to#35109
In message <2014052315412286643-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom> 
  Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
> On 2014-05-23 21:23:34 +0000, Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> said:

>> On Fri, 23 May 2014 11:13:38 -0700, Michelle Steiner
>> <michelle@michelle.org> posted (230520141113387601%michelle@michelle.org):
>> 
>>> In article <bu9dbgFh3cuU1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
>>> <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> It's really best to know a little about something before you make such
>>>> claims.
>>> 
>>> Why should he?  He's an Applephobe.  Do you expect Klansmen to know
>>> anything about African Americans before making claims about them?  Do
>>> you expect homophobes to know anything about gays before making claims
>>> against them?
>> 
>> Out of curiosity, why are pro-Apple people in alt.os.linux.ubuntu anyway?

> ...because the World functions outside of Linux, and if you took the 
> trouble to follow this thread back to the OP (a Linux user) you might 
> have noted he had an iPad/linux related question and he presented us 
> with a legitimate cross post in an effort to seek out an answer.

Your going to shatter some poor linux user's view of the world, you know
that, right?

-- 
I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea
is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both
of them together is certain death.

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#35222

FromJEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet>
Date2014-05-24 17:26 -0500
Message-ID<slrnlo275f.h9s.jedi@nomad.mishnet>
In reply to#35109
On 2014-05-23, Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
> On 2014-05-23 21:23:34 +0000, Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> said:
>
>> On Fri, 23 May 2014 11:13:38 -0700, Michelle Steiner
>> <michelle@michelle.org> posted (230520141113387601%michelle@michelle.org):
>> 
>>> In article <bu9dbgFh3cuU1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
>>> <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> It's really best to know a little about something before you make such
>>>> claims.
>>> 
>>> Why should he?  He's an Applephobe.  Do you expect Klansmen to know
>>> anything about African Americans before making claims about them?  Do
>>> you expect homophobes to know anything about gays before making claims
>>> against them?
>> 
>> Out of curiosity, why are pro-Apple people in alt.os.linux.ubuntu anyway?
>
> ...because the World functions outside of Linux, and if you took the 
> trouble to follow this thread back to the OP (a Linux user) you might 
> have noted he had an iPad/linux related question and he presented us 
> with a legitimate cross post in an effort to seek out an answer.
>

    Yeah but there are at least two ways to handle the situation.

    You can either try to deal with the proverbial Linux hardware support
issue as your typical troll would define it.

    Or you could just use something else.

    Dump it like a Lexmark printer.

    I bought a 7 inch Android tablet on a whim because it was cheap enough
to be an impulse buy. Once my local iFan got ahold of it she dumped both
her iPad and her iPhone.

-- 
    "If I give you a pfennig, you will be one pfennig richer and     
    I'll be one pfennig poorer. But if I give you an idea, you will     |||
    have a new idea, but I shall still have it, too."                  / | \
~ Albert Einstein

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#35115

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2014-05-23 18:58 -0400
Message-ID<230520141858222169%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#35099
In article <lloe8m$u84$9@dont-email.me>, Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca>
wrote:

> 
> Out of curiosity, why are pro-Apple people in alt.os.linux.ubuntu anyway?

look at the groups in which it's posted and you'll see that it's
crossposted to an ipad group.

the original post was about using an ipad on linux, which is why.

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#35156

FromMichelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>
Date2014-05-23 17:51 -0700
Message-ID<230520141751179181%michelle@michelle.org>
In reply to#35099
In article <lloe8m$u84$9@dont-email.me>, Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca>
wrote:

> Out of curiosity, why are pro-Apple people in alt.os.linux.ubuntu anyway?

Because the original poster, who is a unix user, crosspost his message
to these newsgroups.

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#35161

FromDecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org>
Date2014-05-23 17:58 -0700
Message-ID<7krvn9d0tn0u3pmm2i23vb9lpouu6nqnof@4ax.com>
In reply to#35073
On Fri, 23 May 2014 11:13:38 -0700, Michelle Steiner
<michelle@michelle.org> Gave us:

>In article <bu9dbgFh3cuU1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
><jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> It's really best to know a little about something before you make such
>> claims.
>
>Why should he?  He's an Applephobe.  Do you expect Klansmen to know
>anything about African Americans before making claims about them?  Do
>you expect homophobes to know anything about gays before making claims
>against them?


  No, but we can certainly expect you to make the absolute worst fucking
analogies the world has ever seen.

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#35172

FromMichelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>
Date2014-05-23 18:27 -0700
Message-ID<230520141827017818%michelle@michelle.org>
In reply to#35161
In article <7krvn9d0tn0u3pmm2i23vb9lpouu6nqnof@4ax.com>,
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> wrote:

> On Fri, 23 May 2014 11:13:38 -0700, Michelle Steiner
> <michelle@michelle.org> Gave us:
> 
> >In article <bu9dbgFh3cuU1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
> ><jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> >
> >> It's really best to know a little about something before you make such
> >> claims.
> >
> >Why should he?  He's an Applephobe.  Do you expect Klansmen to know
> >anything about African Americans before making claims about them?  Do
> >you expect homophobes to know anything about gays before making claims
> >against them?
> 
> 
>   No, but we can certainly expect you to make the absolute worst fucking
> analogies the world has ever seen.

It's a difference in degree, not in kind.

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#35097

FromSilver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca>
Date2014-05-23 21:15 +0000
Message-ID<llodpc$u84$7@dont-email.me>
In reply to#35058
On Fri, 23 May 2014 17:03:44 +0000, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
posted (bu9dbgFh3cuU1@mid.individual.net):

> On 2014-05-23, Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> wrote:
>> On Fri, 23 May 2014 12:31:48 -0400, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
>> posted (230520141231480648nospamospam@nospam.invalid):
>>
>>> In article <llnkia$3qk$3@dont-email.me>, Silver Slimer
>>> <ndr@slvrlps.ca>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> The problem is that converting from a lossy file like WMA (which
>>>> produces terrible audio, even WMA Pro) is that you end up with an
>>>> audio file which sounds even worse than the original.
>>> 
>>> the problem is that wma is microsoft proprietary and must be converted
>>> to a standard format for non-microsoft licensed devices to be able to
>>> play it.
>>> 
>>> microsoft will not license ipods, so apple *has* to transcode it.
>>> 
>>> had the music been encoded in a non-proprietary format in the first
>>> place, there would be no need to transcode anything.
>>> 
>>> in other words, the problem is microsoft.
>>
>> See my previous post. iTunes doesn't support two well-known free codecs
>> in Vorbis and FLAC and a third lesser-known one in Opus. There is no
>> license restrictions for any of them. Meanwhile, the formats which
>> iTunes and iThings DO support all have license restrictions.
> 
> iTunes has been able to play FLAC and Ogg for many years now:
> 
> <http://www.pcworld.com/article/169606/article.html>
> 
> <https://www.xiph.org/flac/download.html>
> 
> <https://www.xiph.org/quicktime/download.html>
> 
> It's really best to know a little about something before you make such
> claims.

By default, iTunes cannot play the formats. With plug-ins, even Windows 
Media Player can play Vorbis and FLAC. You're defending your beloved 
software with technicalities whereas you know very well that Apple itself 
does not support the formats and that your excuse that "iTunes doesn't 
support WMA because it isn't open" is complete bunk.

-- 
Silver Slimer
OpenMedia & Ubuntu Supporter
www.silverlips.ca

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#35107

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2014-05-23 22:23 +0000
Message-ID<bua037Fkcl5U2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#35097
On 2014-05-23, Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> wrote:
> On Fri, 23 May 2014 17:03:44 +0000, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
> posted (bu9dbgFh3cuU1@mid.individual.net):
>
>> On 2014-05-23, Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> wrote:
>>> On Fri, 23 May 2014 12:31:48 -0400, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
>>> posted (230520141231480648nospamospam@nospam.invalid):
>>>
>>>> In article <llnkia$3qk$3@dont-email.me>, Silver Slimer
>>>> <ndr@slvrlps.ca>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> The problem is that converting from a lossy file like WMA (which
>>>>> produces terrible audio, even WMA Pro) is that you end up with an
>>>>> audio file which sounds even worse than the original.
>>>> 
>>>> the problem is that wma is microsoft proprietary and must be converted
>>>> to a standard format for non-microsoft licensed devices to be able to
>>>> play it.
>>>> 
>>>> microsoft will not license ipods, so apple *has* to transcode it.
>>>> 
>>>> had the music been encoded in a non-proprietary format in the first
>>>> place, there would be no need to transcode anything.
>>>> 
>>>> in other words, the problem is microsoft.
>>>
>>> See my previous post. iTunes doesn't support two well-known free codecs
>>> in Vorbis and FLAC and a third lesser-known one in Opus. There is no
>>> license restrictions for any of them. Meanwhile, the formats which
>>> iTunes and iThings DO support all have license restrictions.
>> 
>> iTunes has been able to play FLAC and Ogg for many years now:
>> 
>> <http://www.pcworld.com/article/169606/article.html>
>> 
>> <https://www.xiph.org/flac/download.html>
>> 
>> <https://www.xiph.org/quicktime/download.html>
>> 
>> It's really best to know a little about something before you make such
>> claims.
>
> By default, iTunes cannot play the formats. With plug-ins, even Windows 
> Media Player can play Vorbis and FLAC. You're defending your beloved 
> software with technicalities whereas you know very well that Apple itself 
> does not support the formats and that your excuse that "iTunes doesn't 
> support WMA because it isn't open" is complete bunk.

Two of the most prevalent mainstream operating systems on the market
today don't have built-in support for two lonely little fringe audio
formats that a) only a small percentage of their overall PC/mobile
device market wants, and b) is available from third-party vendors
anyway, and c) offers brain-numbingly simple installation. I'm fine with
that.

I have absolutely no problem with Apple not directly supporting
Microsoft's WMA format, just as I have no problem with Microsoft not
supporting AAC format. I can easily play WMA files on any Mac with a
freeware third-party solution, which is a very rare occurrence anyway.

The fact is most people don't care about this particular "issue", and
they vote with their wallets. What's strange is that you have a such
problem with it.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#35219

FromJEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet>
Date2014-05-24 17:22 -0500
Message-ID<slrnlo26tl.h9s.jedi@nomad.mishnet>
In reply to#35107
On 2014-05-23, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> On 2014-05-23, Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> wrote:
>> On Fri, 23 May 2014 17:03:44 +0000, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
>> posted (bu9dbgFh3cuU1@mid.individual.net):
>>
>>> On 2014-05-23, Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.ca> wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 23 May 2014 12:31:48 -0400, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
>>>> posted (230520141231480648nospamospam@nospam.invalid):
>>>>
>>>>> In article <llnkia$3qk$3@dont-email.me>, Silver Slimer
>>>>> <ndr@slvrlps.ca>
>>>>> wrote:

[deletia]

>>>>> 
>>>>> in other words, the problem is microsoft.
>>>>
>>>> See my previous post. iTunes doesn't support two well-known free codecs
>>>> in Vorbis and FLAC and a third lesser-known one in Opus. There is no
>>>> license restrictions for any of them. Meanwhile, the formats which
>>>> iTunes and iThings DO support all have license restrictions.
>>> 
>>> iTunes has been able to play FLAC and Ogg for many years now:
>>> 
>>> <http://www.pcworld.com/article/169606/article.html>
>>> 
>>> <https://www.xiph.org/flac/download.html>
>>> 
>>> <https://www.xiph.org/quicktime/download.html>
>>> 
>>> It's really best to know a little about something before you make such
>>> claims.
>>
>> By default, iTunes cannot play the formats. With plug-ins, even Windows 
>> Media Player can play Vorbis and FLAC. You're defending your beloved 
>> software with technicalities whereas you know very well that Apple itself 
>> does not support the formats and that your excuse that "iTunes doesn't 
>> support WMA because it isn't open" is complete bunk.
>
> Two of the most prevalent mainstream operating systems on the market
> today don't have built-in support for two lonely little fringe audio
> formats that a) only a small percentage of their overall PC/mobile

    Except Windows has a respectable plugin mechanism.

    That completely blows away your claim.

    Their product is, as a practical matter, more open to alternative
media formats than the Apple product is.

[deletia]

    Can't say that I've tried iTunes plugins.

    However, Quicktime plugins pretty much cured me of any regard I ever 
had for MacOS.

-- 
    "If I give you a pfennig, you will be one pfennig richer and     
    I'll be one pfennig poorer. But if I give you an idea, you will     |||
    have a new idea, but I shall still have it, too."                  / | \
~ Albert Einstein

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#35261

FromChris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
Date2014-05-25 12:46 -0400
Message-ID<llt6pk$d2g$8@dont-email.me>
In reply to#35219
JEDIDIAH wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> [deletia]
>
>     Can't say that I've tried iTunes plugins.
>
>     However, Quicktime plugins pretty much cured me of any regard I ever 
> had for MacOS.

What was it that Microsoft asked Apple to do?

   http://www.businessweek.com/microsoft/updates/up81105b.htm

   In particularly colorful testimony on Nov. 5, Tevanian described an
   April, 1997, meeting between two Apple and two Microsoft officials.
   Tevanian, who was not at the meeting, said Microsoft officials suggested
   that Apple abandon its business of providing "playback" software that
   enables users to view multimedia content on the computers. Instead, they
   offered Apple the much smaller portion of the market for the tools that
   developers use to create the content. In Apple's mind, though, the
   playback software was its baby.

   According to Tevanian, Apple executive Peter Hoddie asked Microsoft
   officials, "'Are you asking us to kill playback? Are you asking us to
   knife the baby?'" He said Microsoft official Christopher Phillips
   responded, "'Yes, we want you to knife the baby.' It was very clear."

   In September, 1997, Tevanian said he met with a Microsoft official, who
   warned that if Apple refused to cede the playback portion to Microsoft
   that Microsoft CEO Bill Gates would devote all the resources he needed to
   take over the entire multimedia market. Relations got so hot that Apple
   chief Steve Jobs in February wrote Gates an E-mail, noting that Gates's
   Microsoft employees "are really going out of their way to say that they
   intended to kill QuickTime, and are being quite rude about it. Apple will
   need to recirocate (sic) in kind if this behavior keeps up." Jobs ended
   the letter by saying that he hoped that Gates did not respond to "honest
   and proper" competition from Apple "with down and dirty tactics."

   Now Apple is accusing Microsoft of "sabotaging" QuickTime's ability to
   work in the latest version of Microsoft's Internet Explorer. Also,
   Microsoft has bundled in its own version of multimedia software in
   Windows 98.

More reporting on Microsoft skullduggery here:

   http://www.roughlydrafted.com/RD/RDM.Tech.Q1.07/5F0C866C-6DDF-4A9A-9515-531B0CA0C29C.html

   Veni, Vidi, Vici

   History reveals that partnering with Microsoft is like accepting a dinner
   invitation from Hannibal Lecter. One might as well just roll in
   seasonings and jump in the oven.
    
Interesting historical data about Apple and Microsoft, best not forgotten.

-- 
If you tell the truth you don't have to remember anything.
		-- Mark Twain

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