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  Adobe Flash "zulu" <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> - 2014-02-02 11:43 +0000
    Re: Adobe Flash Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-02 07:40 -0700
      Re: Adobe Flash "zulu" <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> - 2014-02-02 14:54 +0000
        Re: Adobe Flash Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-02 08:17 -0700
          Re: Adobe Flash "zulu" <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> - 2014-02-02 15:42 +0000
            Re: Adobe Flash musika <mUs1Ka@NOSPAMexcite.com> - 2014-02-02 16:20 +0000
              Re: Adobe Flash "zulu" <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> - 2014-02-02 16:35 +0000
                Re: Adobe Flash "zulu" <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> - 2014-02-02 16:44 +0000
                  Re: Adobe Flash musika <mUs1Ka@NOSPAMexcite.com> - 2014-02-03 22:26 +0000
                    Re: Adobe Flash "zulu" <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> - 2014-02-04 14:42 +0000
            Re: Adobe Flash Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-02-02 09:36 -0700
            Re: Adobe Flash nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-02 12:47 -0500
    Re: Adobe Flash jim <bojimbo26@gmail.com> - 2014-02-02 20:15 +0000
      Re: Adobe Flash Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-02-03 03:30 +0000

#30438 — Adobe Flash

There is some discussion about Adobe Flash in another thread.
...so here's a question:

How can I view these online holiday brochures on an iPad?

http://www.eaholidays.co.uk/Home.html
and
http://www.fennholidays.co.uk/


-- 
zulu
"The production of too many useful things results in too many useless 
people."
Karl Marx 

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#30439

In article <1bqHu.1504$bv3.795@fx06.am4>, zulu
<zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> wrote:

> There is some discussion about Adobe Flash in another thread.
> ...so here's a question:
> 
> How can I view these online holiday brochures on an iPad?
> 
> http://www.eaholidays.co.uk/Home.html
> and
> http://www.fennholidays.co.uk/

I tried both of them on my iPhone, and got exactly the same as what I
got on my iMac.  I don't see any problem.

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#30440

"Michelle Steiner" <michelle@michelle.org> wrote in message 
news:020220140740121826%michelle@michelle.org...
> In article <1bqHu.1504$bv3.795@fx06.am4>, zulu
> <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>> There is some discussion about Adobe Flash in another thread.
>> ...so here's a question:
>>
>> How can I view these online holiday brochures on an iPad?
>>
>> http://www.eaholidays.co.uk/Home.html
>> and
>> http://www.fennholidays.co.uk/
>
> I tried both of them on my iPhone, and got exactly the same as what I
> got on my iMac.  I don't see any problem.
>

Did you try clicking on rhe _brochures_....

eg top link, RH side of page.

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#30442

In article <__sHu.4687$0F.327@fx35.am4>, zulu
<zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> wrote:

> "Michelle Steiner" <michelle@michelle.org> wrote in message 
> news:020220140740121826%michelle@michelle.org...
> > In article <1bqHu.1504$bv3.795@fx06.am4>, zulu
> > <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> >
> >> There is some discussion about Adobe Flash in another thread.
> >> ...so here's a question:
> >>
> >> How can I view these online holiday brochures on an iPad?
> >>
> >> http://www.eaholidays.co.uk/Home.html
> >> and
> >> http://www.fennholidays.co.uk/
> >
> > I tried both of them on my iPhone, and got exactly the same as what I
> > got on my iMac.  I don't see any problem.
> >
> 
> Did you try clicking on rhe _brochures_....
> 
> eg top link, RH side of page.

OK, I see what you mean.  You'll need a different browser, such as
Photon, to view Flash on an iOS device.

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#30443

"Michelle Steiner" <michelle@michelle.org> wrote in message 
news:020220140817195495%michelle@michelle.org...
> In article <__sHu.4687$0F.327@fx35.am4>, zulu
> <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>> "Michelle Steiner" <michelle@michelle.org> wrote in message
>> news:020220140740121826%michelle@michelle.org...
>> > In article <1bqHu.1504$bv3.795@fx06.am4>, zulu
>> > <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> There is some discussion about Adobe Flash in another thread.
>> >> ...so here's a question:
>> >>
>> >> How can I view these online holiday brochures on an iPad?
>> >>
>> >> http://www.eaholidays.co.uk/Home.html
>> >> and
>> >> http://www.fennholidays.co.uk/
>> >
>> > I tried both of them on my iPhone, and got exactly the same as what I
>> > got on my iMac.  I don't see any problem.
>> >
>>
>> Did you try clicking on rhe _brochures_....
>>
>> eg top link, RH side of page.
>
> OK, I see what you mean.  You'll need a different browser, such as
> Photon, to view Flash on an iOS device.
>

Ah..I need yet another app.  ;-((

Who is at fault here?
The above companies for using Flash instead of pdf (which is better for me 
as I cab at least use text 2 voice), or Apple for being paranoid about 
*security*?

FWIW I've had flash on this PC since forever and I am not aware that it has 
caused any problems.

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#30444

On 02/02/2014 15:42, zulu wrote:
> "Michelle Steiner" <michelle@michelle.org> wrote in message
> news:020220140817195495%michelle@michelle.org...
>> In article <__sHu.4687$0F.327@fx35.am4>, zulu
>> <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>
>>> "Michelle Steiner" <michelle@michelle.org> wrote in message
>>> news:020220140740121826%michelle@michelle.org...
>>>> In article <1bqHu.1504$bv3.795@fx06.am4>, zulu
>>>> <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> There is some discussion about Adobe Flash in another thread.
>>>>> ...so here's a question:
>>>>>
>>>>> How can I view these online holiday brochures on an iPad?
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.eaholidays.co.uk/Home.html
>>>>> and
>>>>> http://www.fennholidays.co.uk/
>>>>
>>>> I tried both of them on my iPhone, and got exactly the same as what I
>>>> got on my iMac.  I don't see any problem.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Did you try clicking on rhe _brochures_....
>>>
>>> eg top link, RH side of page.
>>
>> OK, I see what you mean.  You'll need a different browser, such as
>> Photon, to view Flash on an iOS device.
>>
>
> Ah..I need yet another app.  ;-((
>
> Who is at fault here?
> The above companies for using Flash instead of pdf (which is better for me
> as I cab at least use text 2 voice), or Apple for being paranoid about
> *security*?
>
> FWIW I've had flash on this PC since forever and I am not aware that it has
> caused any problems.
>
You could click on the <Download pdf version> link.


-- 
Ray
UK

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#30446

"musika" <mUs1Ka@NOSPAMexcite.com> wrote in message 
news:lclr86$8pc$1@dont-email.me...
> On 02/02/2014 15:42, zulu wrote:
>> "Michelle Steiner" <michelle@michelle.org> wrote in message
>> news:020220140817195495%michelle@michelle.org...
>>> In article <__sHu.4687$0F.327@fx35.am4>, zulu
>>> <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Michelle Steiner" <michelle@michelle.org> wrote in message
>>>> news:020220140740121826%michelle@michelle.org...
>>>>> In article <1bqHu.1504$bv3.795@fx06.am4>, zulu
>>>>> <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> There is some discussion about Adobe Flash in another thread.
>>>>>> ...so here's a question:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How can I view these online holiday brochures on an iPad?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.eaholidays.co.uk/Home.html
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> http://www.fennholidays.co.uk/
>>>>>
>>>>> I tried both of them on my iPhone, and got exactly the same as what I
>>>>> got on my iMac.  I don't see any problem.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Did you try clicking on rhe _brochures_....
>>>>
>>>> eg top link, RH side of page.
>>>
>>> OK, I see what you mean.  You'll need a different browser, such as
>>> Photon, to view Flash on an iOS device.
>>>
>>
>> Ah..I need yet another app.  ;-((
>>
>> Who is at fault here?
>> The above companies for using Flash instead of pdf (which is better for 
>> me
>> as I cab at least use text 2 voice), or Apple for being paranoid about
>> *security*?
>>
>> FWIW I've had flash on this PC since forever and I am not aware that it 
>> has
>> caused any problems.
>>
> You could click on the <Download pdf version> link.

TY
I didn't see it!
(I'm nearly blind...)

Looking now.!

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#30448

"zulu" <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> wrote in message 
news:NsuHu.158$Kb3.137@fx34.am4...
>
> "musika" <mUs1Ka@NOSPAMexcite.com> wrote in message 
> news:lclr86$8pc$1@dont-email.me...
>> On 02/02/2014 15:42, zulu wrote:
>>> "Michelle Steiner" <michelle@michelle.org> wrote in message
>>> news:020220140817195495%michelle@michelle.org...
>>>> In article <__sHu.4687$0F.327@fx35.am4>, zulu
>>>> <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Michelle Steiner" <michelle@michelle.org> wrote in message
>>>>> news:020220140740121826%michelle@michelle.org...
>>>>>> In article <1bqHu.1504$bv3.795@fx06.am4>, zulu
>>>>>> <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is some discussion about Adobe Flash in another thread.
>>>>>>> ...so here's a question:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How can I view these online holiday brochures on an iPad?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.eaholidays.co.uk/Home.html
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> http://www.fennholidays.co.uk/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I tried both of them on my iPhone, and got exactly the same as what I
>>>>>> got on my iMac.  I don't see any problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Did you try clicking on rhe _brochures_....
>>>>>
>>>>> eg top link, RH side of page.
>>>>
>>>> OK, I see what you mean.  You'll need a different browser, such as
>>>> Photon, to view Flash on an iOS device.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Ah..I need yet another app.  ;-((
>>>
>>> Who is at fault here?
>>> The above companies for using Flash instead of pdf (which is better for 
>>> me
>>> as I cab at least use text 2 voice), or Apple for being paranoid about
>>> *security*?
>>>
>>> FWIW I've had flash on this PC since forever and I am not aware that it 
>>> has
>>> caused any problems.
>>>
>> You could click on the <Download pdf version> link.
>
> TY
> I didn't see it!
> (I'm nearly blind...)
>
> Looking now.!

NO.
I don't see a link to d/l a pdf in eirher sire.
I give up!

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#30498

On 02/02/2014 16:44, zulu wrote:
> "zulu" <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:NsuHu.158$Kb3.137@fx34.am4...
>>
>> "musika" <mUs1Ka@NOSPAMexcite.com> wrote in message
>> news:lclr86$8pc$1@dont-email.me...
>>> On 02/02/2014 15:42, zulu wrote:
>>>> "Michelle Steiner" <michelle@michelle.org> wrote in message
>>>> news:020220140817195495%michelle@michelle.org...
>>>>> In article <__sHu.4687$0F.327@fx35.am4>, zulu
>>>>> <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Michelle Steiner" <michelle@michelle.org> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:020220140740121826%michelle@michelle.org...
>>>>>>> In article <1bqHu.1504$bv3.795@fx06.am4>, zulu
>>>>>>> <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There is some discussion about Adobe Flash in another thread.
>>>>>>>> ...so here's a question:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How can I view these online holiday brochures on an iPad?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.eaholidays.co.uk/Home.html
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> http://www.fennholidays.co.uk/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I tried both of them on my iPhone, and got exactly the same as what I
>>>>>>> got on my iMac.  I don't see any problem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Did you try clicking on rhe _brochures_....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> eg top link, RH side of page.
>>>>>
>>>>> OK, I see what you mean.  You'll need a different browser, such as
>>>>> Photon, to view Flash on an iOS device.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ah..I need yet another app.  ;-((
>>>>
>>>> Who is at fault here?
>>>> The above companies for using Flash instead of pdf (which is better for
>>>> me
>>>> as I cab at least use text 2 voice), or Apple for being paranoid about
>>>> *security*?
>>>>
>>>> FWIW I've had flash on this PC since forever and I am not aware that it
>>>> has
>>>> caused any problems.
>>>>
>>> You could click on the <Download pdf version> link.
>>
>> TY
>> I didn't see it!
>> (I'm nearly blind...)
>>
>> Looking now.!
>
> NO.
> I don't see a link to d/l a pdf in eirher sire.
> I give up!
>
On the first link:
There is a graphic on the R.H. side under which are the words <Click to 
view our brochures online>
On the new page are two brochure links <Autumn and Spring> and <Summer 2014>
When you click on one, a new page opens
On the top left there are six graphics in a grey box. (followed by a 
circular graphic)
The R.H. one of the graphics in the grey box is the link you want. It 
has a downward facing arrow.


-- 
Ray
UK

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#30516

"musika" <mUs1Ka@NOSPAMexcite.com> wrote in message 
news:lcp539$mb3$1@dont-email.me...
> On 02/02/2014 16:44, zulu wrote:
>> "zulu" <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
>> news:NsuHu.158$Kb3.137@fx34.am4...
>>>
>>> "musika" <mUs1Ka@NOSPAMexcite.com> wrote in message
>>> news:lclr86$8pc$1@dont-email.me...
>>>> On 02/02/2014 15:42, zulu wrote:
>>>>> "Michelle Steiner" <michelle@michelle.org> wrote in message
>>>>> news:020220140817195495%michelle@michelle.org...
>>>>>> In article <__sHu.4687$0F.327@fx35.am4>, zulu
>>>>>> <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Michelle Steiner" <michelle@michelle.org> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:020220140740121826%michelle@michelle.org...
>>>>>>>> In article <1bqHu.1504$bv3.795@fx06.am4>, zulu
>>>>>>>> <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There is some discussion about Adobe Flash in another thread.
>>>>>>>>> ...so here's a question:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> How can I view these online holiday brochures on an iPad?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.eaholidays.co.uk/Home.html
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> http://www.fennholidays.co.uk/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I tried both of them on my iPhone, and got exactly the same as what 
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> got on my iMac.  I don't see any problem.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Did you try clicking on rhe _brochures_....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> eg top link, RH side of page.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OK, I see what you mean.  You'll need a different browser, such as
>>>>>> Photon, to view Flash on an iOS device.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ah..I need yet another app.  ;-((
>>>>>
>>>>> Who is at fault here?
>>>>> The above companies for using Flash instead of pdf (which is better 
>>>>> for
>>>>> me
>>>>> as I cab at least use text 2 voice), or Apple for being paranoid about
>>>>> *security*?
>>>>>
>>>>> FWIW I've had flash on this PC since forever and I am not aware that 
>>>>> it
>>>>> has
>>>>> caused any problems.
>>>>>
>>>> You could click on the <Download pdf version> link.
>>>
>>> TY
>>> I didn't see it!
>>> (I'm nearly blind...)
>>>
>>> Looking now.!
>>
>> NO.
>> I don't see a link to d/l a pdf in eirher sire.
>> I give up!
>>
> On the first link:
> There is a graphic on the R.H. side under which are the words <Click to 
> view our brochures online>
> On the new page are two brochure links <Autumn and Spring> and <Summer 
> 2014>
> When you click on one, a new page opens
> On the top left there are six graphics in a grey box. (followed by a 
> circular graphic)
> The R.H. one of the graphics in the grey box is the link you want. It has 
> a downward facing arrow.

Hi Ray


This is the problem!
That second and subsequent page won't open on my iPad (as it needs 
Flash...).

When I looked at it on my PC I found the links just as you described.
Text that I cannot possibly read appears when I hover over each of them.
I would never have found these links as I already know that I can't read the 
Flash version, so wouldn't bother to go there.

I downloaded the pdf on my PC apparently OK, but when I try to open it:
loading...
loading...
loading...
I gave up after 5 minutes.
What a dog's breakfast it all is!

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#30445

In article <kHtHu.444$F05.118@fx02.am4>, zulu
<zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> wrote:

> > OK, I see what you mean.  You'll need a different browser, such as
> > Photon, to view Flash on an iOS device.
> >
> 
> Ah..I need yet another app.  ;-((
> 
> Who is at fault here?
> The above companies for using Flash instead of pdf (which is better for me 
> as I cab at least use text 2 voice), or Apple for being paranoid about 
> *security*?
> 
> FWIW I've had flash on this PC since forever and I am not aware that it has 
> caused any problems.

It's not just about security; Flash sucks on mobile devices.  Adobe has
given up on producing Flash for mobile devices.

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#30455

In article <kHtHu.444$F05.118@fx02.am4>, zulu
<zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> wrote:

> Who is at fault here?

without question, website designers for using flash are clearly at
fault.

> The above companies for using Flash instead of pdf (which is better for me 
> as I cab at least use text 2 voice), or Apple for being paranoid about 
> *security*?

security was just one reason, but a bigger reason is there is no more
flash for mobile devices, so apple can't support it even if it wanted
to.

adobe stopped all development on mobile flash because they realized
that html5 is the way the industry is going. 

that also means that android no longer supports flash either. when it
did, it wasn't all that great. flash videos were choppy and slow and
severely impacted battery life.

web designers who continue to use flash are out of touch, particularly
since a substantial number of people *can't* use flash. creating a
flash-based website is really stupid.

> FWIW I've had flash on this PC since forever and I am not aware that it has 
> caused any problems.

that doesn't mean it's not a security risk or that it's not a cpu hog
or that it's buggy or a wealth of other problems. 

and that's also desktop flash, not mobile flash, which as i said, does
not exist anymore.

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#30463

"zulu" <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> There is some discussion about Adobe Flash in another thread.
> ...so here's a question:
> 
> How can I view these online holiday brochures on an iPad?
> 
> http://www.eaholidays.co.uk/Home.html
> and
> http://www.fennholidays.co.uk/
> 


Adobe flash doesn't work on iPad .

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#30476

On 2014-02-02, jim <bojimbo26@gmail.com> wrote:
> "zulu" <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> There is some discussion about Adobe Flash in another thread.
>> ...so here's a question:
>> 
>> How can I view these online holiday brochures on an iPad?
>> 
>> http://www.eaholidays.co.uk/Home.html
>> and
>> http://www.fennholidays.co.uk/
>
> Adobe flash doesn't work on iPad .

Thank goodness.

-- 
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I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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