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Apple confirms October 22nd press event in San Francisco

Started byMichelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>
First post2013-10-15 09:42 -0700
Last post2013-10-22 18:41 -0700
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  Apple confirms October 22nd press event in San Francisco Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2013-10-15 09:42 -0700
    Re: Apple confirms October 22nd press event in San Francisco Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2013-10-22 18:46 +0200
      Re: Apple confirms October 22nd press event in San Francisco bj <address_is@invalid.invalid> - 2013-10-22 13:36 -0500
        Re: Apple confirms October 22nd press event in San Francisco nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-22 14:40 -0400
          Re: Apple confirms October 22nd press event in San Francisco JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-10-22 17:17 -0400
            Re: Apple confirms October 22nd press event in San Francisco nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-22 17:43 -0400
              Re: Apple confirms October 22nd press event in San Francisco JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-10-22 18:23 -0400
                Re: Apple confirms October 22nd press event in San Francisco nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-22 18:37 -0400
                  Re: Apple confirms October 22nd press event in San Francisco JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-10-22 18:54 -0400
                    Re: Apple confirms October 22nd press event in San Francisco nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-10-22 19:37 -0400
                    Re: Apple confirms October 22nd press event in San Francisco Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-10-22 18:49 -0700
                    Re: Apple confirms October 22nd press event in San Francisco Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2013-10-23 13:33 +0200
                      Re: Apple confirms October 22nd press event in San Francisco JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-10-23 14:52 -0400
                        Re: Apple confirms October 22nd press event in San Francisco Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-23 18:00 -0400
                          Re: Apple confirms October 22nd press event in San Francisco Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-24 04:26 +0000
                            Re: Apple confirms October 22nd press event in San Francisco Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-25 16:40 -0400
                              Re: Apple confirms October 22nd press event in San Francisco George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-10-26 08:41 -0500
                Re: Apple confirms October 22nd press event in San Francisco Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2013-10-22 21:01 -0400
                  Re: Apple confirms October 22nd press event in San Francisco Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-10-23 18:13 +1300
                Re: Apple confirms October 22nd press event in San Francisco Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-10-22 18:48 -0700
                  Re: Apple confirms October 22nd press event in San Francisco Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-23 02:20 +0000
                    Re: Apple confirms October 22nd press event in San Francisco Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-10-23 08:33 -0700
                      Re: Apple confirms October 22nd press event in San Francisco "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-10-24 07:13 +1100
                      Re: Apple confirms October 22nd press event in San Francisco Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-10-24 04:24 +0000
            Re: Apple confirms October 22nd press event in San Francisco Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-10-22 18:41 -0700

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#28478

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2013-10-23 02:20 +0000
Message-ID<slrnl6eciq.p0q.g.kreme@mbp55.local>
In reply to#28476
In message <jollyroger-0620DB.18481222102013@news.individual.net> 
  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> In article <5266fae3$0$53692$c3e8da3$14a0410e@news.astraweb.com>,
>  JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:

>> On 13-10-22 17:43, nospam wrote:
>> 
>> > it have very fast internal storage and can connect to external via
>> > thunderbolt 2.
>> > 
>> > people who buy high end systems typically have raid arrays.
>> 
>> Did Apple announce a separate box to hold real disk drives for a storage
>> array ?

> Are you suggesting it would be good for Apple to enter the storage box 
> market? Do you have any actual data to back that up?

>> Out of curiosity, do storage arrays today support Thunderbolt 2  ?

> Go find out for yourself, since it matters to you.

>> So that 43 watt quote for the new MacPro when idle is rather empty
>> promise if you need to buy seperate boxes with their own power supplies
>> to fill the needs of what is missing inside the MacPro.

> So your position is that the existing storage options in the new Mac Pro 
> are insufficient for most people?  

> I'm finding that a little hard to swallow, personally, considering I am 
> one of those people and think the storage would be sufficient for my 
> needs.

As long as you're not doing video. I would need external storage for it.
Heck, my iTunes library is larger than that. That said, I'd love one of
those new machines and would be happy to use that machine with a decent
NAS.

-- 
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#28485

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2013-10-23 08:33 -0700
Message-ID<jollyroger-87DF53.08334123102013@news.individual.net>
In reply to#28478
In article <slrnl6eciq.p0q.g.kreme@mbp55.local>,
 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> In message <jollyroger-0620DB.18481222102013@news.individual.net> 
>   Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> > In article <5266fae3$0$53692$c3e8da3$14a0410e@news.astraweb.com>,
> >  JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> 
> >> On 13-10-22 17:43, nospam wrote:
> >> 
> >> > it have very fast internal storage and can connect to external via
> >> > thunderbolt 2.
> >> > 
> >> > people who buy high end systems typically have raid arrays.
> >> 
> >> Did Apple announce a separate box to hold real disk drives for a storage
> >> array ?
> 
> > Are you suggesting it would be good for Apple to enter the storage box 
> > market? Do you have any actual data to back that up?
> 
> >> Out of curiosity, do storage arrays today support Thunderbolt 2  ?
> 
> > Go find out for yourself, since it matters to you.
> 
> >> So that 43 watt quote for the new MacPro when idle is rather empty
> >> promise if you need to buy seperate boxes with their own power supplies
> >> to fill the needs of what is missing inside the MacPro.
> 
> > So your position is that the existing storage options in the new Mac Pro 
> > are insufficient for most people?  
> 
> > I'm finding that a little hard to swallow, personally, considering I am 
> > one of those people and think the storage would be sufficient for my 
> > needs.
> 
> As long as you're not doing video.

Is there data suggesting that most Mac Pro owners do video? I'd find 
that hard to believe.

I'm a software developer and system administrator, and 1TB of storage is 
plenty for my needs. At the moment, I've got a 480 GB SSD in this Mac 
Pro, and I've got 130+ GB free.

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#28492

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2013-10-24 07:13 +1100
Message-ID<bcqoukF91ljU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#28485
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
> Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote
>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
>>>  JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote
>>>> nospam wrote

>>>>> it have very fast internal storage and can
>>>>> connect to external via thunderbolt 2.

>>>>> people who buy high end systems typically have raid arrays.

>>>> Did Apple announce a separate box to
>>>> hold real disk drives for a storage array ?

>>> Are you suggesting it would be good for Apple to enter the storage
>>> box market? Do you have any actual data to back that up?

>>>> Out of curiosity, do storage arrays today support Thunderbolt 2  ?

>>> Go find out for yourself, since it matters to you.

>>>> So that 43 watt quote for the new MacPro when idle is rather empty
>>>> promise if you need to buy seperate boxes with their own power
>>>> supplies to fill the needs of what is missing inside the MacPro.

>>> So your position is that the existing storage options
>>> in the new Mac Pro are insufficient for most people?

>>> I'm finding that a little hard to swallow, personally, considering I am 
>>> one
>>> of those people and think the storage would be sufficient for my needs.

>> As long as you're not doing video.

> Is there data suggesting that most Mac Pro owners do video?

Most isn't what matters, what matters is whether significant numbers of them 
do.

And presumably significant numbers do given
that a laptop isnt really that viable for a PVR.

> I'd find that hard to believe.

Having fun thrashing that straw man ?

> I'm a software developer and system administrator,
> and 1TB of storage is plenty for my needs.

And wouldn’t be if you did video.

> At the moment, I've got a 480 GB SSD
> in this Mac Pro, and I've got 130+ GB free.

Irrelevant to what happens if you use it for video. 

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#28494

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2013-10-24 04:24 +0000
Message-ID<slrnl6h885.r6q.g.kreme@mbp55.local>
In reply to#28485
In message <jollyroger-87DF53.08334123102013@news.individual.net> 
  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> In article <slrnl6eciq.p0q.g.kreme@mbp55.local>,
>  Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

>> In message <jollyroger-0620DB.18481222102013@news.individual.net> 
>>   Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>> > In article <5266fae3$0$53692$c3e8da3$14a0410e@news.astraweb.com>,
>> >  JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
>> 
>> >> On 13-10-22 17:43, nospam wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> > it have very fast internal storage and can connect to external via
>> >> > thunderbolt 2.
>> >> > 
>> >> > people who buy high end systems typically have raid arrays.
>> >> 
>> >> Did Apple announce a separate box to hold real disk drives for a storage
>> >> array ?
>> 
>> > Are you suggesting it would be good for Apple to enter the storage box 
>> > market? Do you have any actual data to back that up?
>> 
>> >> Out of curiosity, do storage arrays today support Thunderbolt 2  ?
>> 
>> > Go find out for yourself, since it matters to you.
>> 
>> >> So that 43 watt quote for the new MacPro when idle is rather empty
>> >> promise if you need to buy seperate boxes with their own power supplies
>> >> to fill the needs of what is missing inside the MacPro.
>> 
>> > So your position is that the existing storage options in the new Mac Pro 
>> > are insufficient for most people?  
>> 
>> > I'm finding that a little hard to swallow, personally, considering I am 
>> > one of those people and think the storage would be sufficient for my 
>> > needs.
>> 
>> As long as you're not doing video.

> Is there data suggesting that most Mac Pro owners do video?

No, I don't think so. I would guess most are doing development. But
certainly video is a large part of high-end Macs, and always has been.
There's a reason the MacPro comes with dual GPUs and can do multiple 4K
screens. It's not for XCode.

> I'm a software developer and system administrator, and 1TB of storage is 
> plenty for my needs. At the moment, I've got a 480 GB SSD in this Mac 
> Pro, and I've got 130+ GB free.

Yep. Like I said, as long as you aren't doing video the SSD on the
MacPro is going to be more than enough. However, the entry level model I
think has a 256GB SSD. That's a little small even for 'just' a developer.

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million its first DAY!

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#28475

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2013-10-22 18:41 -0700
Message-ID<jollyroger-498523.18410122102013@news.individual.net>
In reply to#28463
In article <5266eb51$0$12645$c3e8da3$69010069@news.astraweb.com>,
 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:

> Tim Cook was better than before at the keynote.
> 
> Still not sure of the MacPro's lack of storage though. If you want
> performance, you need local storage which it lacks.

You're funny, kid. The built-in flash storage would be plenty big enough 
and fast enough for my day-to-day work. And I'm very sure I'm not the 
only Mac Pro customer with that sentiment.

-- 
Send responses to the relevant news group rather than email to me.
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM
filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting
messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google
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JR

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