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| Started by | Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> |
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| First post | 2014-06-02 12:12 -0700 |
| Last post | 2014-06-07 13:12 +0200 |
| Articles | 5 on this page of 45 — 17 participants |
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Chicken Little Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-02 12:12 -0700
Re: Chicken Little Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-02 19:21 +0000
Re: Chicken Little android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-03 08:42 +0200
Re: Chicken Little jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-03 08:14 +1200
Re: Chicken Little Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2014-06-02 17:03 -0400
Re: Chicken Little Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-03 09:11 +1200
Re: Chicken Little jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-03 09:54 +1200
Re: Chicken Little Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-03 18:39 +1200
Re: Chicken Little jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-03 22:09 +1200
Re: Chicken Little erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-06-02 16:56 -0500
Re: Chicken Little Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-06-02 19:07 -0700
Re: Chicken Little Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-02 19:35 -0700
Re: Chicken Little Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-02 20:54 -0700
Re: Chicken Little android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-03 08:41 +0200
Re: Chicken Little Mxsmanic <mxsmanic@gmail.com> - 2014-06-06 06:24 +0200
Re: Chicken Little Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-05 22:12 -0700
Re: Chicken Little FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-06-06 04:07 -0400
Re: Chicken Little Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-06 13:49 +0000
Re: Chicken Little Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-06 08:28 -0700
Re: Chicken Little FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-06-06 04:11 -0400
Re: Chicken Little Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-06 13:52 +0000
Re: Chicken Little nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-06 11:32 -0400
Re: Chicken Little George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-06-06 15:44 -0500
Re: Chicken Little George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-06-06 15:47 -0500
Re: Chicken Little Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-06-06 10:23 +0100
Re: Chicken Little Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-06 13:53 +0000
Re: Chicken Little George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-06-06 15:42 -0500
Re: Chicken Little Mxsmanic <mxsmanic@gmail.com> - 2014-06-07 13:15 +0200
Re: Chicken Little Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-07 14:31 +0000
Re: Chicken Little JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-06-07 13:29 -0400
Re: Chicken Little George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-06-07 16:10 -0500
Re: Chicken Little Mxsmanic <mxsmanic@gmail.com> - 2014-06-07 13:15 +0200
Re: Chicken Little Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-07 14:20 +0000
Re: Chicken Little "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2014-06-08 11:46 +1000
Re: Chicken Little JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-06-08 14:13 -0400
Re: Chicken Little "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2014-06-09 07:26 +1000
Re: Chicken Little George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-06-08 20:47 -0500
Re: Chicken Little "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2014-06-09 14:53 +1000
Re: Chicken Little JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-06-09 13:12 -0400
Re: Chicken Little George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-06-09 13:04 -0500
Re: Chicken Little Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-10 09:34 +1200
Re: Chicken Little "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2014-06-10 06:43 +1000
Re: Chicken Little George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-06-08 20:45 -0500
Re: Chicken Little Lloyd E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-06-06 08:03 -0500
Re: Chicken Little Mxsmanic <mxsmanic@gmail.com> - 2014-06-07 13:12 +0200
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| From | Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> |
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| Date | 2014-06-10 09:34 +1200 |
| Message-ID | <100620140934221559%YourName@YourISP.com> |
| In reply to | #36612 |
In article <CFBB6164.AC2F9%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>, George Kerby
<ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 6/9/14 12:12 PM, in article
> 5395eaeb$0$58771$c3e8da3$12bcf670@news.astraweb.com, "JF Mezei"
> <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> > On 14-06-09 00:53, Rod Speed wrote:
> >>
> >> I agree with your other comment about gambling and investment, but
> >> he does have a point about how many of those in the industry operate.
> >
> > Institutional speculators have the ability to sway stocks. And they
> > toyed around with AAPL a lot in recent years, but has calmed down since.
> >
> > Consider when a large Wall Street org leaked news that iPhone sales were
> > down because they saw some 3rd party report of Apple lowering component
> > purchases from Samsung. They conviently forgot the well known news that
> > Apple was shifting purchases away from Samsung to other supliers and
> > made Apple look bad and drove AAPL down quite a bit.
> >
> > Once the AAPL share price got to their liking, the suddently stopped the
> > endless stream if similar bad news and the stock price has since risen
> > at a natural pace without much speculation.
>
> 'Shorts' take advantage of the human greed syndrome. I don't trade like
> those bastards and stay in for the long term and buy on those dips. Now that
> AAPL has done a 7 for 1 split, it will become more psychologically appealing
> to the small investor, so expect it to cross over the Franklin Factor level
> this month, if not sooner...
In today's news on MacRumors.com ...
Apple Stock Splits 7-for-1, Opens at $92 With
All-Time High Just Over $100
<http://www.macrumors.com/2014/06/09/apple-stock-7-1-split/>
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-06-10 06:43 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <bvmkjmF2ijmU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #36608 |
JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote > Rod Speed wrote >> I agree with your other comment about gambling and investment, but >> he does have a point about how many of those in the industry operate. > Institutional speculators have the ability to sway stocks. And they toyed > around with AAPL a lot in recent years, but has calmed down since. Sure, its always been one downside with the stockmarket. Corse if you arent just doing long term investment, its not necessarily a bad thing either, its movements in prices that allows you to profit. > Consider when a large Wall Street org leaked news that iPhone sales were > down because they saw some 3rd party report of Apple lowering component > purchases from Samsung. They conviently forgot the well known news that > Apple was shifting purchases away from Samsung to other supliers and > made Apple look bad and drove AAPL down quite a bit. > Once the AAPL share price got to their liking, the suddently > stopped the endless stream if similar bad news and the stock > price has since risen at a natural pace without much speculation. Sure, there will always be that sort of thing going on.
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| From | George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-06-08 20:45 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <CFBA7C02.AC248%ghost_topper@hotmail.com> |
| In reply to | #36568 |
On 6/8/14 1:13 PM, in article 5394a7d5$0$51459$c3e8da3$eb767761@news.astraweb.com, "JF Mezei" <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote: > On 14-06-07 21:46, Rod Speed wrote: > >>> Are there any long-term investors these days? >> >> Corse there are. > > A few years ago, the Wall Street Casino analysts were making self > serving predictions of AAPL going over $1000, the sky is the limit etc > etc. This attracted a lot of speculators for a quick buck. > > Then, once the casino analysts reduced their exposure, having cashed in > on the speculation, they started to issue bad news about AAPL, and the > stock tanked from over $700 down to below $400. The speculators left. > And that left longer term investors. > > So AAPL is much more of a blue chip stock these days than a speculative > one. However, it is still very affected by the news cycle. Wall Street > Casino Analysts could drive the price down with some bad news about > Apple so they could buy in at a low price, and then let it rise again. > You seem to have an extreme confusion between Investments and Gambling. You REALLY need to GET OVER that BULLSHIT approach to putting yor $$$ into something.
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| From | Lloyd E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> |
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| Date | 2014-06-06 08:03 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <lmse7k$sp3$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #36378 |
On 2014-06-06 05:12:22 +0000, Michelle Steiner said: > In article <6ig2p9ht5l290li6p0qh98t8na4slhp01k@4ax.com>, Mxsmanic > <mxsmanic@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> Chicken Little is screaming that Apple is doomed because it didn't >>> introduce any new hardware at the WWDC keynote this morning. >> >> I'm sure geeks may feel that way, but Apple is in the mainstream now, and >> mainstream, ordinary users don't need to see new hardware every six months. Or >> even new software, for that matter. > > That screaming is from "Wall Street analysts" and tech writers for > magazines, newspapers, and web sites. Geeks and ordinary users don't > care all that much. And the stories they write about Apple are a lot more interesting than the ones about the 'yet another Android device that is nearly the same as all other Android devices' ones they do. -- Lloyd
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| From | Mxsmanic <mxsmanic@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-06-07 13:12 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <qrs5p99jdgqqqssmqc9f2j1vk7u9qrhn3k@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #36378 |
Michelle Steiner writes: > That screaming is from "Wall Street analysts" and tech writers for > magazines, newspapers, and web sites. Geeks and ordinary users don't > care all that much. Analysts and tech writers are a different breed, too, and one that isn't highly relevant. Analysts only care about the quarterly bottom line, and tech writers only care about having new things to write about.
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