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  Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-03-19 07:26 -0700
    Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2012-03-19 15:14 -0400
      Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2012-03-19 15:31 -0400
      Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2012-03-19 15:51 -0400
        Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2012-03-19 15:53 -0400
        Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback HelpfulHarry@BusyWorking.com (Helpful Harry) - 2012-03-20 12:19 +1200
          Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-03-19 20:50 -0400
            Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback HelpfulHarry@BusyWorking.com (Helpful Harry) - 2012-03-20 16:14 +1200
              Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2012-03-19 23:28 -0400
              Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-03-20 17:16 -0400
        Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-20 19:33 -0500
          Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-03-20 17:50 -0700
            Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-21 07:46 -0500
              Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2012-03-21 09:42 -0400
                Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2012-03-21 09:23 -0500
                  Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2012-03-21 12:25 -0400
              Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2012-03-21 09:13 -0500
                Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2012-03-21 12:23 -0400
                  Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-21 16:04 -0500
                  Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2012-03-21 19:30 -0500
                    Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2012-03-21 20:53 -0400
                      Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2012-03-21 22:28 -0500
                        Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2012-03-22 08:01 -0400
                          Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2012-03-22 08:13 -0400
              Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-03-21 08:44 -0700
                Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2012-03-21 12:29 -0400
                Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-21 15:26 -0500
                  Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2012-03-21 16:45 -0400
                  Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-03-21 14:34 -0700
                  Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2012-03-21 19:05 -0500
              Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2012-03-22 14:16 -0400
                Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2012-03-22 14:34 -0400
                  Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2012-03-22 14:25 -0500
                  Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-23 09:02 -0500
                    Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-03-23 10:44 -0700
                      Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-23 14:05 -0500
                        Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback News <News@Group.Name> - 2012-03-23 15:20 -0400
                          Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-23 19:19 -0500
                            Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-03-23 20:05 -0700
                              Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-24 10:54 -0500
                                Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-03-24 09:48 -0700
                                  Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback News <News@Group.Post> - 2012-03-24 12:53 -0400
                                    Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-24 20:15 -0500
                                      Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback News <News@Group.Post> - 2012-03-25 12:01 -0400
                                  Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback "Douglas C. Neidermeyer" <sgt@arms.omega.faber.edu> - 2012-03-24 18:45 -0400
                                    Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-03-24 19:30 -0700
                                      Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback "Douglas C. Neidermeyer" <sgt@arms.omega.faber.edu> - 2012-03-25 18:11 -0400
                                  Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback russotto@grace.speakeasy.net (Matthew Russotto) - 2012-03-26 00:10 +0000
                                    Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-03-25 17:39 -0700
                                      Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback russotto@grace.speakeasy.net (Matthew Russotto) - 2012-03-26 02:50 +0000
                                        Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-03-25 21:10 -0700
                                Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2012-03-24 15:02 -0400
                                Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2012-03-24 19:09 -0400
                                  Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-25 09:39 -0500
                                    Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2012-03-25 14:02 -0400
                            Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback News <News@Group.Post> - 2012-03-24 12:42 -0400
                        Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> - 2012-03-23 15:52 -0600
                          Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-23 19:24 -0500
                            Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-03-23 20:04 -0700
                              Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-24 10:43 -0500
                                Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> - 2012-03-24 11:22 -0600
                                  Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-03-24 15:16 -0400
                                    Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback News <News@Group.Post> - 2012-03-24 16:10 -0400
                                      Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-03-25 12:19 -0400
                                    Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-03-24 19:31 -0700
                                      Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-03-25 12:40 -0400
                                        Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-03-25 13:46 -0700
                                          Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-03-25 18:14 -0400
                                    Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback russotto@grace.speakeasy.net (Matthew Russotto) - 2012-03-26 00:13 +0000
                                      Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-03-26 17:44 -0400
                                  Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-24 20:20 -0500
                                  Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-25 09:33 -0500
                                    Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-03-25 07:45 -0700
                                    Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> - 2012-03-25 13:07 -0600
                                Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2012-03-24 19:02 -0400
                                  Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-24 20:26 -0500
                                    Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2012-03-24 21:59 -0400
                            Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback News <News@Group.Post> - 2012-03-24 12:42 -0400
                            Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> - 2012-03-24 11:09 -0600
                        Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2012-03-23 22:45 -0400
                        Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-03-23 20:00 -0700
                    Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2012-03-23 22:43 -0400
                      Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-24 10:40 -0500
                  Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2012-03-23 22:42 -0400
                    Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2012-03-24 08:21 -0400
                      Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2012-03-24 18:29 -0400
                        Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-25 09:36 -0500
                          Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2012-03-25 13:56 -0400
            Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback "Thomas R. Kettler" <tkettler@blownfuse.net> - 2012-03-21 11:08 -0400
          Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2012-03-20 20:34 -0500
            Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-21 07:49 -0500
              Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2012-03-21 09:25 -0500
                Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-21 11:02 -0500
                  Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-03-21 09:20 -0700
                    Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-21 16:02 -0500
                      Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-03-21 14:24 -0700
                      Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> - 2012-03-21 16:38 -0600
                        Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-03-21 16:59 -0700
                          Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-03-22 16:32 -0400
                    Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2012-03-21 19:11 -0500
                      Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-03-21 18:49 -0700
                        Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2012-03-22 00:45 -0400
                          Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Steve Hix <sehix@NOSPAMmac.comINVALID> - 2012-03-21 23:09 -0700
                        Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2012-03-22 07:51 -0400
                          Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2012-03-22 08:28 -0500
                            Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-03-22 16:28 -0400
                          Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-03-22 10:10 -0700
                  Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2012-03-21 19:09 -0500
              Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-03-21 08:23 -0700
                Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-03-22 16:34 -0400
                  Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-03-22 13:45 -0700
      Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback HelpfulHarry@BusyWorking.com (Helpful Harry) - 2012-03-20 08:12 +1200
        Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2012-03-19 16:49 -0400
        Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-03-19 19:37 -0400
    Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-03-19 16:56 -0400
      Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2012-03-19 17:08 -0400
        Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-03-19 17:22 -0400
          Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2012-03-19 17:46 -0400
            Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-03-19 14:54 -0700
            Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-03-19 18:17 -0400
              Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2012-03-19 19:00 -0400
                Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-03-19 19:23 -0400
                Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-03-19 19:26 -0400
                Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-03-19 17:55 -0700
                  Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2012-03-19 22:14 -0400
                    Re: Apple to Pay Dividend, Plans $10 Billion Buyback Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-03-19 20:58 -0700

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#10455

At 24 Mar 2012 10:43:36 -0500 George Kerby wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On 3/23/12 10:04 PM, in article
> michelle-7F2048.20042723032012@news.eternal-september.org, "Michelle
> Steiner" <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
> 
> > In article <CB927E5E.83F43%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>,
> >  George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> >>>> If a Republican is homosexual, he quietly leads his life.
> >>> 
> >>> Of course he leads his life quietly, lest the other Republicans
find out
> >>> and brand him unsuitable to coach school teams, lead a scout troop,
etc.
> >> 
> >> Bullshit. Again.
> >> 
> >>
<http://www.logcabin.org/site/c.nsKSL7PMLpF/b.5468093/k.BE4C/Home.htm>
> > 
> > the Log Cabin Republicans don't exactly quietly lead their lives.
> > 
> >>>> If a Democrat is homosexual, he demands legislated respect.
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> ...and deserves no less.
> >>> 
> >> 
> >> Bullshit. Again.
> >> 
> >> Respect comes with actions, not guvmint handouts / special favors.
> > 
> > It's not a matter of respect; it's a matter of equality.
> 
> I'm not paying for a stranger's Tune-up with my car insurance...
> 
> <http://cnsnews.com/news/article/star-parker-car-insurance-wont-cover-
your-neighbors-tune-so-why-should-my-healt>


Why do you use such an obviously socialist construct like insurance in
the first place?  If you need health care or car repairs you should just
pay for it yourself, and the not use the resources of others who happen
to patronize the same insurance company as you.  Contributing your hard
earned money to a third-party that redistributes it based solely on need
is just so "New Deal"-ish, I'm surprised you participate in it...

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#10459

On 2012-03-24 13:22 , Todd Allcock wrote:

> Why do you use such an obviously socialist construct like insurance in
> the first place?

Insurance is a capitalist construct.  It protects capital investment. 
Protects against litigation.  It makes huge profits.

-- 
"I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did.
  I said I didn't know."
                           -Samuel Clemens.

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#10460

On 3/24/2012 3:16 PM, Alan Browne wrote:
> On 2012-03-24 13:22 , Todd Allcock wrote:
>
>> Why do you use such an obviously socialist construct like insurance in
>> the first place?
>
> Insurance is a capitalist construct. It protects capital investment.
> Protects against litigation. It makes huge profits.
>

Like AIG...  privatize profit, lay off losses on the taxpayer.

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#10496

On 2012-03-24 16:10 , News wrote:
> On 3/24/2012 3:16 PM, Alan Browne wrote:
>> On 2012-03-24 13:22 , Todd Allcock wrote:
>>
>>> Why do you use such an obviously socialist construct like insurance in
>>> the first place?
>>
>> Insurance is a capitalist construct. It protects capital investment.
>> Protects against litigation. It makes huge profits.
>>
>
> Like AIG... privatize profit, lay off losses on the taxpayer.

Of course.  And that is a Republican construct.

-- 
"I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did.
  I said I didn't know."
                           -Samuel Clemens.

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#10472

In article <2u2dnRuJceEAgPPSnZ2dnUVZ_rSdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
 Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:

> > Why do you use such an obviously socialist construct like insurance in
> > the first place?
> 
> Insurance is a capitalist construct.  It protects capital investment. 
> Protects against litigation.  It makes huge profits.

I takes according to ability, and pays according to need.  It is 
collectivism at its finest.

-- 
Tea Party Patriots is to Patriotism as 
People's Democratic Republic is to Democracy.

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#10497

On 2012-03-24 22:31 , Michelle Steiner wrote:
> In article<2u2dnRuJceEAgPPSnZ2dnUVZ_rSdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
>   Alan Browne<alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca>  wrote:
>
>>> Why do you use such an obviously socialist construct like insurance in
>>> the first place?
>>
>> Insurance is a capitalist construct.  It protects capital investment.
>> Protects against litigation.  It makes huge profits.
>
> I takes according to ability, and pays according to need.  It is
> collectivism at its finest.

Capitalism has had collective interest institutions that support 
capitalism from long before Morelly//Marxist dogma.  Forms of insurance 
existed thousands of years ago in the form of monarchy protection 
rackets to shipping loan/insurance contracts.  It's never stopped.

Banks.  Trading houses/associations.  Harbours/docks.  Insurance. 
Granaries, mills.  Roads.  Barn raising.  Marriage.

All collective institutions with 100's -1000's years of 
economic/capitalist "good".

-- 
"I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did.
  I said I didn't know."
                           -Samuel Clemens.

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#10509

In article <B8adnV8y858H1_LSnZ2dnUVZ_oqdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
 Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:

> Capitalism has had collective interest institutions that support 
> capitalism from long before Morelly//Marxist dogma. 

I know.  ;)

> Banks.  Trading houses/associations.  Harbours/docks.  Insurance. 
> Granaries, mills.  Roads.  Barn raising.  Marriage.
> 
> All collective institutions with 100's -1000's years of 
> economic/capitalist "good".

You omitted corporations; one of the purest forms of collectivism.

-- 
Tea Party Patriots is to Patriotism as 
People's Democratic Republic is to Democracy.

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#10516

On 2012-03-25 16:46 , Michelle Steiner wrote:
> In article<B8adnV8y858H1_LSnZ2dnUVZ_oqdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
>   Alan Browne<alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca>  wrote:
>
>> Capitalism has had collective interest institutions that support
>> capitalism from long before Morelly//Marxist dogma.
>
> I know.  ;)
>
>> Banks.  Trading houses/associations.  Harbours/docks.  Insurance.
>> Granaries, mills.  Roads.  Barn raising.  Marriage.
>>
>> All collective institutions with 100's -1000's years of
>> economic/capitalist "good".
>
> You omitted corporations; one of the purest forms of collectivism.

I probably omitted a lot more.

-- 
"I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did.
  I said I didn't know."
                           -Samuel Clemens.

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#10530

In article <2u2dnRuJceEAgPPSnZ2dnUVZ_rSdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
Alan Browne  <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>On 2012-03-24 13:22 , Todd Allcock wrote:
>
>> Why do you use such an obviously socialist construct like insurance in
>> the first place?
>
>Insurance is a capitalist construct.  It protects capital investment. 
>Protects against litigation.  It makes huge profits.

Insurance is a fascist construct.  It provides another layer of
corporate control of individual's lives, a set of rules enforced by
threatened or actual denial of required coverage.



-- 
The problem with socialism is there's always 
someone with less ability and more need.

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#10547

On 2012-03-25 20:13 , Matthew Russotto wrote:
> In article<2u2dnRuJceEAgPPSnZ2dnUVZ_rSdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
> Alan Browne<alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca>  wrote:
>> On 2012-03-24 13:22 , Todd Allcock wrote:
>>
>>> Why do you use such an obviously socialist construct like insurance in
>>> the first place?
>>
>> Insurance is a capitalist construct.  It protects capital investment.
>> Protects against litigation.  It makes huge profits.
>
> Insurance is a fascist construct.

Bzzt.

-- 
"I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did.
  I said I didn't know."
                           -Samuel Clemens.

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#10468

On 3/24/12 12:22 PM, in article jkkvsm$63a$2@dont-email.me, "Todd Allcock"
<elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> wrote:

> At 24 Mar 2012 10:43:36 -0500 George Kerby wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 3/23/12 10:04 PM, in article
>> michelle-7F2048.20042723032012@news.eternal-september.org, "Michelle
>> Steiner" <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> In article <CB927E5E.83F43%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>,
>>>  George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>>> If a Republican is homosexual, he quietly leads his life.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Of course he leads his life quietly, lest the other Republicans
> find out
>>>>> and brand him unsuitable to coach school teams, lead a scout troop,
> etc.
>>>> 
>>>> Bullshit. Again.
>>>> 
>>>> 
> <http://www.logcabin.org/site/c.nsKSL7PMLpF/b.5468093/k.BE4C/Home.htm>
>>> 
>>> the Log Cabin Republicans don't exactly quietly lead their lives.
>>> 
>>>>>> If a Democrat is homosexual, he demands legislated respect.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> ...and deserves no less.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Bullshit. Again.
>>>> 
>>>> Respect comes with actions, not guvmint handouts / special favors.
>>> 
>>> It's not a matter of respect; it's a matter of equality.
>> 
>> I'm not paying for a stranger's Tune-up with my car insurance...
>> 
>> <http://cnsnews.com/news/article/star-parker-car-insurance-wont-cover-
> your-neighbors-tune-so-why-should-my-healt>
> 
> 
> Why do you use such an obviously socialist construct like insurance in
> the first place?  If you need health care or car repairs you should just
> pay for it yourself, and the not use the resources of others who happen
> to patronize the same insurance company as you.  Contributing your hard
> earned money to a third-party that redistributes it based solely on need
> is just so "New Deal"-ish, I'm surprised you participate in it...
> 

You aren't much of a gambler are you?

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#10489

On 3/24/12 12:22 PM, in article jkkvsm$63a$2@dont-email.me, "Todd Allcock"
<elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> wrote:

> At 24 Mar 2012 10:43:36 -0500 George Kerby wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 3/23/12 10:04 PM, in article
>> michelle-7F2048.20042723032012@news.eternal-september.org, "Michelle
>> Steiner" <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> In article <CB927E5E.83F43%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>,
>>>  George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>>> If a Republican is homosexual, he quietly leads his life.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Of course he leads his life quietly, lest the other Republicans
> find out
>>>>> and brand him unsuitable to coach school teams, lead a scout troop,
> etc.
>>>> 
>>>> Bullshit. Again.
>>>> 
>>>> 
> <http://www.logcabin.org/site/c.nsKSL7PMLpF/b.5468093/k.BE4C/Home.htm>
>>> 
>>> the Log Cabin Republicans don't exactly quietly lead their lives.
>>> 
>>>>>> If a Democrat is homosexual, he demands legislated respect.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> ...and deserves no less.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Bullshit. Again.
>>>> 
>>>> Respect comes with actions, not guvmint handouts / special favors.
>>> 
>>> It's not a matter of respect; it's a matter of equality.
>> 
>> I'm not paying for a stranger's Tune-up with my car insurance...
>> 
>> <http://cnsnews.com/news/article/star-parker-car-insurance-wont-cover-
> your-neighbors-tune-so-why-should-my-healt>
> 
> 
> Why do you use such an obviously socialist construct like insurance in
> the first place?  If you need health care or car repairs you should just
> pay for it yourself, and the not use the resources of others who happen
> to patronize the same insurance company as you.  Contributing your hard
> earned money to a third-party that redistributes it based solely on need
> is just so "New Deal"-ish, I'm surprised you participate in it...
> 

FYI, I don't know where YOU live, but in most states in the USA, one is
REQUIRED by LAW to have automobile insurance.

If the POTUS and Nancy "we have to pass it to see what's in it" Pelosi, have
their way, ObamaCare will soon be the same as that. It will take a Supreme
Court ruling to overturn a mandatory government law that makes citizens
criminal for not having health insurance.

Now tell me, with a straight face, that that isn't Socialist?

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#10492

In article <CB9496E8.840FC%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>,
 George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote:

> FYI, I don't know where YOU live, but in most states in the USA, one is
> REQUIRED by LAW to have automobile insurance.

Only liability insurance; there's no legal requirement to have collision or 
comprehensive automobile insurance.  (However, if there's an outstanding 
loan on the car, the lender will require you to have collision and 
comprehensive insurance.)

-- 
Tea Party Patriots is to Patriotism as 
People's Democratic Republic is to Democracy.

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#10506

At 25 Mar 2012 09:33:28 -0500 George Kerby wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On 3/24/12 12:22 PM, in article jkkvsm$63a$2@dont-email.me, "Todd
Allcock"
> <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> wrote:
> 
> > At 24 Mar 2012 10:43:36 -0500 George Kerby wrote:
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On 3/23/12 10:04 PM, in article
> >> michelle-7F2048.20042723032012@news.eternal-september.org, "Michelle
> >> Steiner" <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
> >> 
> >>> In article <CB927E5E.83F43%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>,
> >>>  George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>>>>> If a Republican is homosexual, he quietly leads his life.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Of course he leads his life quietly, lest the other Republicans
> > find out
> >>>>> and brand him unsuitable to coach school teams, lead a scout troop,

> > etc.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Bullshit. Again.
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> > <http://www.logcabin.org/site/c.nsKSL7PMLpF/b.5468093/k.BE4C/Home.htm>
> >>> 
> >>> the Log Cabin Republicans don't exactly quietly lead their lives.
> >>> 
> >>>>>> If a Democrat is homosexual, he demands legislated respect.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> ...and deserves no less.
> >>>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Bullshit. Again.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Respect comes with actions, not guvmint handouts / special favors.
> >>> 
> >>> It's not a matter of respect; it's a matter of equality.
> >> 
> >> I'm not paying for a stranger's Tune-up with my car insurance...
> >> 
> >> <http://cnsnews.com/news/article/star-parker-car-insurance-wont-
cover-
> > your-neighbors-tune-so-why-should-my-healt>
> > 
> > 
> > Why do you use such an obviously socialist construct like insurance in
> > the first place?  If you need health care or car repairs you should
just
> > pay for it yourself, and the not use the resources of others who
happen
> > to patronize the same insurance company as you.  Contributing your
hard
> > earned money to a third-party that redistributes it based solely on
need
> > is just so "New Deal"-ish, I'm surprised you participate in it...
> > 
> 
> FYI, I don't know where YOU live, but in most states in the USA, one is
> REQUIRED by LAW to have automobile insurance.

*Sigh* I was making both a joke and a point. That the concepts of shared
resources and shared risks aren't just a socialist concept. 100%
capitalism and free markets are just as unworkable as 100% socialism. A
smart society borrows from the best of all societies.  Mandatory auto
insurance makes insurance cheaper for all, and protects us from
"judgement proof" members of society.
 
> If the POTUS and Nancy "we have to pass it to see what's in it" Pelosi,
have
> their way, ObamaCare will soon be the same as that. It will take a
Supreme
> Court ruling to overturn a mandatory government law that makes citizens
> criminal for not having health insurance.
So? As a society we already pay for the uninsured, since those with no
ability to pay can't be turned away from life-saving emergency treatment,
arguably some of the most expensive treatments. We all pay for that in
increased costs.

Presumably you aren't stupid enough not to carry automotive or health
insurance, so why do you care if others are required to as well for the
good of all of society?  People don't always do the right thing on their
own.


> Now tell me, with a straight face, that that isn't Socialist?

It is to a degree.  Those crazy socialists like the Canadians and the UK
offer baseline medical health care to all citizens. It's frankly
embarrassing, with the riches this country has been blessed with, that we
don't.

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#10465

In article <CB9355D8.83F9D%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>,
 George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I'm not paying for a stranger's Tune-up with my car insurance...
> 
> <http://cnsnews.com/news/article/star-parker-car-insurance-wont-cover-your-n
> eighbors-tune-so-why-should-my-health>

Thus proving that conservatives are completely ignorant of the concept 
of insurance.

-- 
D.F. Manno | dfmanno@mail.com
Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead
soldiers. (George Carlin)

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#10469

On 3/24/12 6:02 PM, in article
dfmanno-1197BF.19023224032012@news.albasani.net, "D.F. Manno"
<dfmanno@mail.com> wrote:

> In article <CB9355D8.83F9D%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>,
>  George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I'm not paying for a stranger's Tune-up with my car insurance...
>> 
>> <http://cnsnews.com/news/article/star-parker-car-insurance-wont-cover-your-n
>> eighbors-tune-so-why-should-my-health>
> 
> Thus proving that conservatives are completely ignorant of the concept
> of insurance.

Thus proving that Libtards have no idea of the word "analogy"...

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#10470

In article <CB93DE60.840AC%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>,
 George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote:

> D.F. Manno <dfmanno@mail.com> wrote:
> > George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> >> I'm not paying for a stranger's Tune-up with my car insurance...
> >> 
> >> <http://cnsnews.com/news/article/star-parker-car-insurance-wont-cover-your-neighbors-tune-so-why-should-my-health>
> > 
> > Thus proving that conservatives are completely ignorant of the concept
> > of insurance.
> 
> Thus proving that Libtards have no idea of the word "analogy"...

The "analogy" is faulty, like everything else that oozes out of your 
mouth.

-- 
D.F. Manno | dfmanno@mail.com
Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead
soldiers. (George Carlin)

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#10449

On 3/23/2012 8:24 PM, George Kerby wrote:
>
>
>
> On 3/23/12 4:52 PM, in article jkirdl$ub3$1@dont-email.me, "Todd Allcock"
> <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com>  wrote:
>
>> At 23 Mar 2012 14:05:54 -0500 George Kerby wrote:
>>
>>> If a Republican is homosexual, he quietly leads his life.
>>
>> Of course he leads his life quietly, lest the other Republicans find out
>> and brand him unsuitable to coach school teams, lead a scout troop, etc.
>
> Bullshit. Again.
>
> <http://www.logcabin.org/site/c.nsKSL7PMLpF/b.5468093/k.BE4C/Home.htm>
>
>
>>
>>
>>> If a Democrat is homosexual, he demands legislated respect.
>>
>>
>> ...and deserves no less.
>>
>
> Bullshit. Again.
>
> Respect comes with actions, not guvmint handouts / special favors.
>
>


The bullshit is -- again -- all yours, kerbster.

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#10454

At 23 Mar 2012 19:24:14 -0500 George Kerby wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On 3/23/12 4:52 PM, in article jkirdl$ub3$1@dont-email.me, "Todd
Allcock"
> <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> wrote:
> 
> > At 23 Mar 2012 14:05:54 -0500 George Kerby wrote:
> > 
> >> If a Republican is homosexual, he quietly leads his life.
> > 
> > Of course he leads his life quietly, lest the other Republicans find
out
> > and brand him unsuitable to coach school teams, lead a scout troop,
etc.
> 
> Bullshit. Again.
> 
> <http://www.logcabin.org/site/c.nsKSL7PMLpF/b.5468093/k.BE4C/Home.htm>


A niche group far outnumbered by the fundamentalists the mainstream
Republicans pander to.

 
> >> If a Democrat is homosexual, he demands legislated respect.
> > 
> > 
> > ...and deserves no less.
> > 
> 
> Bullshit. Again.
> 
> Respect comes with actions, not guvmint handouts / special favors.


Basic human rights are not a handout or a special favor, and need to be
protected. The civil rights movement of the 60s proved that the majority
isn't always right, (although they're often Right!)

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#10433

In article <CB9233C2.83EEF%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>,
 George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote:

> More accurately:
> 
> If a Republican doesn't like guns, he doesn't buy one.
> If a Democrat doesn't like guns, he wants all guns outlawed.
> 
> If a Republican is a vegetarian, he doesn't eat meat.
> If a Democrat is a vegetarian, he wants all meat products banned for
> everyone. 
> 
> If a Republican is homosexual, he quietly leads his life.
> If a Democrat is homosexual, he demands legislated respect.
> 
> If a Republican is down-and-out, he thinks about how to better his
> situation. 
> A Democrat wonders who is going to take care of him.
> 
> If a Republican doesn't like a talk show host, he switches channels.
> Democrat's demand that those they don't like be shut down.
> 
> If a Republican is a non-believer, he doesn't go to church.
> A Democrat non-believer wants any mention of God and religion silenced.
> 
> If a Republican decides he needs health care, he goes about shopping for it,
> or may choose a job that provides it.
> A Democrat demands that the rest of us pay for his.
> 
> > And they're still screaming that Obama is not a natural born citizen, and
> > doesn't qualify to be president.
> 
> Not necessarly all of us, but your local Maricopa County Sheriff may be onto
> something...
> 
> <http://www.wnd.com/2012/03/sheriff-joe-tons-more-shocking-obama-info/>
> 
> Stay tuned!

Yeah, let us know when you decide to join the real world and leave Rush 
Limbaugh's talking points behind.

-- 
D.F. Manno | dfmanno@mail.com
Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead
soldiers. (George Carlin)

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