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  What is the status of free/adfree/loginfree basic AI apps/programs/URLs on our devices? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-08 20:35 +0000
    Re: What is the status of free/adfree/loginfree basic AI apps/programs/URLs on our devices? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-08 22:16 +0000
      Re: What is the status of free/adfree/loginfree basic AI apps/programs/URLs on our devices? Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2025-04-09 08:12 +0100
        Re: What is the status of free/adfree/loginfree basic AI apps/programs/URLs on our devices? Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-04-09 12:51 +0100
          Re: What is the status of free/adfree/loginfree basic AI apps/programs/URLs on our devices? Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2025-04-09 13:51 +0100
    Re: What is the status of free/adfree/loginfree basic AI apps/programs/URLs on our devices? "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2025-04-09 08:40 -0400

#147700 — What is the status of free/adfree/loginfree basic AI apps/programs/URLs on our devices?

Since every time we help one person, we should help every person,
I just now looked this up for Ant on iOS, so it could be wrong, 
but that's why I'm posting this summary for others to help.

Is this the current state of general purpose AI apps & URLs that are
a. Free 
b. No ads
c. No login/password requirement

So far, I found, these dedicated general purpose apps...
A. For iOS
B. For Android
C. For Windows 

ChatGPT (by OpenAI): 
 iOS: <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/chatgpt/id6448311069>
 Android: <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.openai.chatgpt>
 <https://chatgpt.com>
 <ms-windows-store://pdp/?ProductId=9NZKP7MQZ3VR>

Gemini (by Google DeepMind): 
 iOS: <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/google-gemini/id6477489729>
 Android: <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.gemini>
 <https://gemini.google.com>
 <https://deepmind.com/research>

Note I didn't find a dedicated Windows Gemini app, but this is how 
to create a pseudo-gemini app on Microsoft Windows for an interface.
1. Open Google Chrome & go to https://gemini.google.com/
2. Click the hamburger at the top right of Chrome
3. Cast, save & share > Install page as app > (rename) > Install
   (Make sure "Open as window" checkbox is checked!
   This will create a desktop shortcut & a startmenu entry.

What about others?
a. Jasper <https://www.jasper.ai/> no IPA/APK
   <MSWord > Insert > Get Add-ins > Jasper>
b. 1.800.chatgpt (15 minutes/month)?
c. Copilot? 
   <https://apps.microsoft.com/detail/9nht9rb2f4hd>
d. Perplexity AI? <https://www.perplexity.ai/>
   <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/perplexity-ask-anything/id1668000334>
   <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ai.perplexity.app.android>
   <ms-windows-store://pdp/?ProductId=9NF8Z9R5V79V>
e. Claude (Anthropic)?  <https://www.anthropic.com/claude>
   <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/claude-by-anthropic/id6473753684>
   <https://claude.ai/>
f. Pi (Inflection AI)? 
   <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/pi-personal-ai-assistant/id6445815935>
   <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ai.inflection.pi>
   <https://pi.ai/>
g. Character.ai?  
   <https://apps.apple.com/us/developer/character-ai/id1643189032>
   <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ai.character.app>
   <https://character.ai/>
etc. 

What is the status of free/adfree/loginfree basic (i.e., general purpose)
AI apps/programs/URLs on our mobile and Windows computer devices?

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#147703

On Tue, 8 Apr 2025 20:35:28 -0000 (UTC), Marion wrote :


> What is the status of free/adfree/loginfree basic (i.e., general purpose)
> AI apps/programs/URLs on our mobile and Windows computer devices?

In the Apple newsgroups, badgolferman tested Grok against both chatGPT and
Gemini and found Grok to be superior, so I list it below for reference.

 <https://grok.com>
 <https://apps.apple.com/au/app/grok-by-xai/id6670324846>
 <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ai.x.grok> 
 <there is no official windows app for grok yet>

Note that Grok does not appear to meet our divine requirements though of
being free, adfree and not requiring a login/password mothership account.

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#147709

On 08/04/2025 23:16, Marion wrote:
> On Tue, 8 Apr 2025 20:35:28 -0000 (UTC), Marion wrote :
> 
> 
>> What is the status of free/adfree/loginfree basic (i.e., general purpose)
>> AI apps/programs/URLs on our mobile and Windows computer devices?
> 
> In the Apple newsgroups, badgolferman tested Grok against both chatGPT and
> Gemini and found Grok to be superior, so I list it below for reference.
> 
>   <https://grok.com>
>   <https://apps.apple.com/au/app/grok-by-xai/id6670324846>
>   <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ai.x.grok>
>   <there is no official windows app for grok yet>
> 
> Note that Grok does not appear to meet our divine requirements though of
> being free, adfree and not requiring a login/password mothership account.

Its "Terms and Conditions" and "Privacy Policy" together come to around 
11,000 words. That's probably about average these days. :-(

Does anyone with no commercial interest actually read these?

-- 
Jeff

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#147720

On 2025-04-09 08:12, Jeff Layman wrote:
>
> On 08/04/2025 23:16, Marion wrote:
>>
>> Note that Grok does not appear to meet our divine requirements though of
>> being free, adfree and not requiring a login/password mothership account.
> 
> Its "Terms and Conditions" and "Privacy Policy" together come to around 
> 11,000 words. That's probably about average these days. :-(
> 
> Does anyone with no commercial interest actually read these?

An example of what Shoshana Zuboff in her book "The Age Of Surveillance 
Capitalism" called an 'uncontract'  -  an online 'contract' whose terms 
were made so complex that no-one would ever read them.

-- 

Fake news kills!

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#147722

On 09/04/2025 12:51, Java Jive wrote:
> On 2025-04-09 08:12, Jeff Layman wrote:
>>
>> On 08/04/2025 23:16, Marion wrote:
>>>
>>> Note that Grok does not appear to meet our divine requirements though of
>>> being free, adfree and not requiring a login/password mothership account.
>>
>> Its "Terms and Conditions" and "Privacy Policy" together come to around
>> 11,000 words. That's probably about average these days. :-(
>>
>> Does anyone with no commercial interest actually read these?
> 
> An example of what Shoshana Zuboff in her book "The Age Of Surveillance
> Capitalism" called an 'uncontract'  -  an online 'contract' whose terms
> were made so complex that no-one would ever read them.

If anyone succeeded in reading through one of these uncontracts they 
should award themselves this:
<https://www.amazon.co.uk/Monty-Python-Official-Gumby-T-shirt/dp/B07VB9Y2S9>

-- 
Jeff

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#147721

On 4/8/25 04:35 PM, Marion wrote:
> c. Copilot?
>     <https://apps.microsoft.com/detail/9nht9rb2f4hd>
I use this, no install of any app, available on any OS I think since it's a link.
https://copilot.microsoft.com/chats/UrRvMcTkuVjCn8kHsGhQF

However, every time I paste and go, I get a different url.   I did sign in with my hotmail 
account and that seems to keep the url constant.

-- 
Linux Mint 22.1, Cinnamon 6.4.8,  Kernel 6.8.0-57-generic
Thunderbird 128.9.0esr, Mozilla Firefox 137.0
     Alan K.

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