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What happened to Arlen?

Started byJörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net>
First post2025-01-22 11:52 +0100
Last post2025-01-22 16:30 +0100
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  What happened to Arlen? Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-01-22 11:52 +0100
    Re: What happened to Arlen? badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-01-22 11:04 +0000
      Re: What happened to Arlen? Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-01-22 12:13 +0100
        Re: What happened to Arlen? badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-01-22 12:10 +0000
      Re: What happened to Arlen? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-22 20:38 -0800
        Re: What happened to Arlen? Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-01-23 09:43 +0100
        Re: What happened to Arlen? badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-01-23 12:16 +0000
          Re: What happened to Arlen? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-23 11:30 -0800
            Re: What happened to Arlen? badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-01-23 22:24 +0000
              Re: What happened to Arlen? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-23 14:50 -0800
    Re: What happened to Arlen? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-22 11:21 +0000
      Re: What happened to Arlen? Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-01-22 12:28 +0100
        Re: What happened to Arlen? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-22 12:13 +0000
          Re: What happened to Arlen? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-01-22 19:17 +0000
      Re: What happened to Arlen? Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-01-23 19:11 +0100
      Re: What happened to Arlen? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-01-23 23:27 +0000
    Re: What happened to Arlen? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-22 13:12 +0100
      Re: What happened to Arlen? Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-01-22 16:30 +0100

#146482 — What happened to Arlen?

FromJörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net>
Date2025-01-22 11:52 +0100
SubjectWhat happened to Arlen?
Message-ID<vmqilk$a9sn$1@solani.org>
First I thought the Solani Usenet server does not work anymore after it
became so quiet in these two NGs recently. What happened?

Is Arlen and all his reincarnations still alive?

In a way I'm missing the traffic and the constant flame wars.

Nothing but questions ...

X-posted.

-- 
"Roma locuta, causa finita." (Augustinus)

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#146483

Frombadgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com>
Date2025-01-22 11:04 +0000
Message-ID<vmqjcg$aaot$1@solani.org>
In reply to#146482
Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
> First I thought the Solani Usenet server does not work anymore after it
> became so quiet in these two NGs recently. What happened?
> 
> Is Arlen and all his reincarnations still alive?
> 
> In a way I'm missing the traffic and the constant flame wars.
> 
> Nothing but questions ...
> 
> X-posted.
> 

So you’ve been lying all along that you have him and all his subthreads
blocked. He was right about you!

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#146484

FromJörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net>
Date2025-01-22 12:13 +0100
Message-ID<vmqjsk$agnh$1@solani.org>
In reply to#146483
On 22.01.25 12:04, badgolferman wrote:
> Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
>> First I thought the Solani Usenet server does not work anymore after it
>> became so quiet in these two NGs recently. What happened?
>>
>> Is Arlen and all his reincarnations still alive?
>>
>> In a way I'm missing the traffic and the constant flame wars.
>>
>> Nothing but questions ...
>>
>> X-posted.
>>
> 
> So you’ve been lying all along that you have him and all his subthreads
> blocked. He was right about you!

Very revealing, poor old man. You have absolutely no clue how a
newsreader works especially the one I use. Why do you think it took
three weeks to react? Are you even one of the reincarnations?

With one click *I can know everything*. Just a little bit of curiosity.

BTW: Usenet is also entertainment.

-- 
"Roma locuta, causa finita." (Augustinus)

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#146487

Frombadgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com>
Date2025-01-22 12:10 +0000
Message-ID<vmqn8f$acmv$1@solani.org>
In reply to#146484
Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
> On 22.01.25 12:04, badgolferman wrote:
>> Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
>>> First I thought the Solani Usenet server does not work anymore after it
>>> became so quiet in these two NGs recently. What happened?
>>> 
>>> Is Arlen and all his reincarnations still alive?
>>> 
>>> In a way I'm missing the traffic and the constant flame wars.
>>> 
>>> Nothing but questions ...
>>> 
>>> X-posted.
>>> 
>> 
>> So you’ve been lying all along that you have him and all his subthreads
>> blocked. He was right about you!
> 
> Very revealing, poor old man. You have absolutely no clue how a
> newsreader works especially the one I use. Why do you think it took
> three weeks to react? Are you even one of the reincarnations?
> 
> With one click *I can know everything*. Just a little bit of curiosity.
> 
> BTW: Usenet is also entertainment.
> 

You’ve outed yourself as Arlen’s secret admirer. You complain about him all
the time, but now you admit to being entertained by him instead. Hypocrite!

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#146499

FromAlan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date2025-01-22 20:38 -0800
Message-ID<vmsh53$1fru7$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#146483
On 2025-01-22 03:04, badgolferman wrote:
> Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
>> First I thought the Solani Usenet server does not work anymore after it
>> became so quiet in these two NGs recently. What happened?
>>
>> Is Arlen and all his reincarnations still alive?
>>
>> In a way I'm missing the traffic and the constant flame wars.
>>
>> Nothing but questions ...
>>
>> X-posted.
>>
> 
> So you’ve been lying all along that you have him and all his subthreads
> blocked. He was right about you!
> 

And we're all right about you!

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#146500

FromJörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net>
Date2025-01-23 09:43 +0100
Message-ID<vmsvep$bpj7$1@solani.org>
In reply to#146499
On 23.01.25 05:38, Alan wrote:
> On 2025-01-22 03:04, badgolferman wrote:
>> Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
>>> First I thought the Solani Usenet server does not work anymore after it
>>> became so quiet in these two NGs recently. What happened?
>>>
>>> Is Arlen and all his reincarnations still alive?
>>>
>>> In a way I'm missing the traffic and the constant flame wars.
>>>
>>> Nothing but questions ...
>>>
>>> X-posted.
>>>
>>
>> So you’ve been lying all along that you have him and all his subthreads
>> blocked. He was right about you!
>>
> 
> And we're all right about you!

+1

-- 
"Roma locuta, causa finita." (Augustinus)

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#146504

Frombadgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com>
Date2025-01-23 12:16 +0000
Message-ID<vmtbuq$bv6i$1@solani.org>
In reply to#146499
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> On 2025-01-22 03:04, badgolferman wrote:
>> Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
>>> First I thought the Solani Usenet server does not work anymore after it
>>> became so quiet in these two NGs recently. What happened?
>>> 
>>> Is Arlen and all his reincarnations still alive?
>>> 
>>> In a way I'm missing the traffic and the constant flame wars.
>>> 
>>> Nothing but questions ...
>>> 
>>> X-posted.
>>> 
>> 
>> So you’ve been lying all along that you have him and all his subthreads
>> blocked. He was right about you!
>> 
> 
> And we're all right about you!
> 

At least you’ve admitted publicly your enjoyment of bantering with Arlen.
Lorenz has put up high and mighty fake fronts all this time and finally let
it slip out that he’s just a liar and really a secret admirer of Arlen. 

And what have you been right about? I’ve only had an issue with Arlen once
and we worked it out. He contributes useful information and causes people
to think about their sacred cow narratives. 

The difference between your interactions and my interactions with him is
that he and I can disagree respectfully without hurling insults at each
other. 

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#146507

FromAlan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date2025-01-23 11:30 -0800
Message-ID<vmu5bp$1oj0a$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#146504
On 2025-01-23 04:16, badgolferman wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>> On 2025-01-22 03:04, badgolferman wrote:
>>> Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
>>>> First I thought the Solani Usenet server does not work anymore after it
>>>> became so quiet in these two NGs recently. What happened?
>>>>
>>>> Is Arlen and all his reincarnations still alive?
>>>>
>>>> In a way I'm missing the traffic and the constant flame wars.
>>>>
>>>> Nothing but questions ...
>>>>
>>>> X-posted.
>>>>
>>>
>>> So you’ve been lying all along that you have him and all his subthreads
>>> blocked. He was right about you!
>>>
>>
>> And we're all right about you!
>>
> 
> At least you’ve admitted publicly your enjoyment of bantering with Arlen.
> Lorenz has put up high and mighty fake fronts all this time and finally let
> it slip out that he’s just a liar and really a secret admirer of Arlen.

You misapprehend.

I make the best of a situation that can't be controlled.

I try to take enjoyment out of any situation where I can.

Would I rather not have to deal with an asshole like Arlen?

Hell yes.

> 
> And what have you been right about? I’ve only had an issue with Arlen once
> and we worked it out. He contributes useful information and causes people
> to think about their sacred cow narratives.

You're wilfully blind.

> 
> The difference between your interactions and my interactions with him is
> that he and I can disagree respectfully without hurling insults at each
> other.

Because you cave on your positions before he starts insulting you, quisling.

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#146509

Frombadgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com>
Date2025-01-23 22:24 +0000
Message-ID<vmufip$cip6$1@solani.org>
In reply to#146507
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> On 2025-01-23 04:16, badgolferman wrote:
>>
>> 
>> The difference between your interactions and my interactions with him is
>> that he and I can disagree respectfully without hurling insults at each
>> other.
> 
> Because you cave on your positions before he starts insulting you, quisling.
> 


Really? That’s not the way I remember it when I confronted him about using
my identity. 

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#146511

FromAlan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date2025-01-23 14:50 -0800
Message-ID<vmuh4d$1ri02$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#146509
On 2025-01-23 14:24, badgolferman wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>> On 2025-01-23 04:16, badgolferman wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> The difference between your interactions and my interactions with him is
>>> that he and I can disagree respectfully without hurling insults at each
>>> other.
>>
>> Because you cave on your positions before he starts insulting you, quisling.
>>
> 
> 
> Really? That’s not the way I remember it when I confronted him about using
> my identity.

Let's see the thread.

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#146485

FromAndy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
Date2025-01-22 11:21 +0000
Message-ID<lvc2ldFbr03U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#146482
Jörg Lorenz wrote:

> Is Arlen and all his reincarnations still alive?

Marion (maybe others).

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#146486

FromJörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net>
Date2025-01-22 12:28 +0100
Message-ID<vmqkpj$abdk$1@solani.org>
In reply to#146485
On 22.01.25 12:21, Andy Burns wrote:
> Jörg Lorenz wrote:
> 
>> Is Arlen and all his reincarnations still alive?
> 
> Marion (maybe others).

I thought about her too. Is still unclear. We will find out.

-- 
"Roma locuta, causa finita." (Augustinus)

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#146488

FromFrank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
Date2025-01-22 12:13 +0000
Message-ID<vmqqtn.iqg.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>
In reply to#146486
Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
> On 22.01.25 12:21, Andy Burns wrote:
> > Jörg Lorenz wrote:
> > 
> >> Is Arlen and all his reincarnations still alive?
> > 
> > Marion (maybe others).
> 
> I thought about her too. Is still unclear. We will find out.

  Is the Pope catholic?

  FYI, 'Arlen' himself has confirmed that he is 'Marion'.

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#146492

FromMarion <marion@facts.com>
Date2025-01-22 19:17 +0000
Message-ID<vmrg8g$24s6$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to#146488
On 22 Jan 2025 12:13:36 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote :


>   Is the Pope catholic?

In decades on Usenet, my killfile still contains only single-digit numbers
of plonks (e.g., Joerg Lorenz, Alan Baker, Snit, Rod Speed, et al.).

Yet, it never ceases to amaze me what those people say (which I see when
others respond to their nonsense); but what's consistent is that all of
them claim to be on Usenet primarily for their own personal amusement.

They themselves admit they're not on Usenet to learn or to help people.
They're literally on Usenet simply to garner their own sadistic pleasures.

What's tellingly common among all of these uncommonly unprepossessing
characters is they literally scream out in their incredible joy 
  "*I FOUND YOU!!!!*"
much like the mentally handicapped children do when they find the Easter
egg left in the middle of the room, particularly for them to find first.

Those who post for their own amusement are overjoyed when they finally
figure out, after hundreds of posts, what was never even hidden.

The funny thing is that it's obvious in the body of the message.

In the body are the same images (exactly!) since I re-use images at times.
For heaven's sake, if the images don't give me away, what else will?

If I make a new image (such as this one yesterday), it's obviously mine.
 <https://i.postimg.cc/zD0DVSny/debug-20250122-newpipe.jpg>

How many of those does it take for these "I FOUND YOU!" people to figure
out what was never hidden in the first place in the body of the message?

I even have the same issues using the same privacy aware tools, such as
this NewPipe YouTube replacement due to Google screwing up IOS code.
 *NewPipe retry anomaly in version 0.27.4*
 <https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=57029&group=comp.mobile.android#57029>

If it takes Frank or Jeorg more than a split second to figure out that this
kind of purposefully helpful on-target immense detail (with links) is me,
then there's something wrong with them. 

It's sadly hilarious how incredibly smart they "think" they are, just like
those handicapped kids scream out when they find the not-hidden Easter egg.

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#146506

FromJörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net>
Date2025-01-23 19:11 +0100
Message-ID<vmu0o0$caed$1@solani.org>
In reply to#146485
On 23.01.25 18:07, Stefan Ram wrote:
> Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote or quoted:
>> Marion (maybe others).
> 
>   I whipped up a little program that groups posters based on
>   their writing style.
> 
>   Generally speaking, the more text and posts we've got from someone,
>   the more accurate this bad boy gets. Sometimes you'll find a bunch
>   of usernames that are obviously the same person. It's a no-brainer
>   when two names are practically twins or when it's common knowledge
>   that they belong to the same dude. 
> 
>   But here's the kicker - you might get a couple of folks with
>   writing styles that are two peas in a pod, even though they're
>   about as likely to be the same person as the Dodgers and the
>   Giants sharing a clubhouse. 
> 
>   So you can't just go around saying my method is the be-all and
>   end-all for proving two posters are one and the same. It's more
>   like a breadcrumb trail that someone with half a brain needs to
>   follow, considering all the info out there. 
> 
>   Now that we've got that out of the way, I can tell you that
>   my program didn't find any writing style that stuck out like a
>   sore thumb compared to Marion's. But don't put all your eggs in
>   one basket - we don't have a ton of text from this sender yet. 
> 
>   To avoid barking up the wrong tree, I'm zeroing in on cases where
>   it's already pretty obvious we're dealing with the same person,
>   either because their usernames are like two drops of water or because
>   people are already chewing the fat about it. 
> 
>   (My program, though, didn't give two hoots about how similar
>   usernames might be - it just zeroed in on the meat and potatoes of
>   each post. I'm the one who then cherry-picked similar names for this
>   write-up, just to avoid stirring up any unnecessary drama. Wouldn't
>   want to set off a wildfire of speculation, if you catch my drift.)
> 
>   So, without further ado, here are some of the writing style
>   similarities I dug up when looking at "comp.mobile.android":
> 
> 'Arlen Holder' ~ 'arlen holder'
> 
> 'Arlen Holder' ~ 'Arlen G. Holder'
> 
> 'arlen holder' ~ 'Arlen G. Holder'
> 
> 'Arlen _G_ Holder' ~ 'Arlen G. Holder'
> 
> 'Arlen_Holder' ~ 'Arlen Holder'
> 
> 'arlen michael holder' ~ 'Arlen Holder'
> 
> 'micky' ~ 'Micky'
> 
> 'Carlos E.R.' ~ 'Carlos E. R.'
> 
> 'John B.' ~ 'John B. Slocomb'
> 
> 'Harry Newton' ~ 'harry newton'
> 
> 'Horace Algiers' ~ 'Horace Algier'

*ROTFLSTC*

-- 
"Roma locuta, causa finita." (Augustinus)

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#146512

FromMarion <marion@facts.com>
Date2025-01-23 23:27 +0000
Message-ID<vmuj98$h64$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to#146485
On 23 Jan 2025 17:07:25 GMT, Stefan Ram wrote :


>   I whipped up a little program that groups posters based on
>   their writing style.

If it takes you more than a glance to figure out my posts, that's saying a
lot more about your lack of intelligence than it says about my abilities.

Here is a post from me that shows my heartfelt writing style, which is:
a. the post is purposefully helpful (because I'm kind hearted)
b. the contents are tested and detailed (because they work)
c. the use is for billions of people (because it's useful)

 *Working batch script to append to the browser-independent global bookmarks file*
 <https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=84536&group=alt.comp.os.windows-10#84536>

Notice, in stark contrast to the content of detestably repulsive posters
such as the heartless Joerg Lorenz, Alan Baker, Rudy Wieser, et al., who
are only on Usenet for their own sadistic amusement... that just a single
post from me contains more value than everything those disgustingly
unprepossessing sadistic posters have said in their entire lives.

Their whole lives they've been told they were stupid.
On Usenet, they feel they can get back at everyone who is NOT stupid.

That's why these sadistic trolls call everyone else, who actually
contributes value, a troll. Because they hate who they are.

Think about that fact.
All those sadistic posters listed above can *never* add value to anything.

This is why those loathsome sadistic trolls listed above exclaim with
ecstatic joy that *I FOUND YOU* when those repugnant trolls above have seen
a purposefully helpful useful post from those who are kindhearted.

A purposefully helpful value-added post is something they just can't do.

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#146489

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2025-01-22 13:12 +0100
Message-ID<2v376lx55r.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#146482
On 2025-01-22 11:52, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
> First I thought the Solani Usenet server does not work anymore after it
> became so quiet in these two NGs recently. What happened?
> 
> Is Arlen and all his reincarnations still alive?

Marion posted 3 AM today.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#146490

FromJörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net>
Date2025-01-22 16:30 +0100
Message-ID<vmr2tu$apij$1@solani.org>
In reply to#146489
On 22.01.25 13:12, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2025-01-22 11:52, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>> First I thought the Solani Usenet server does not work anymore after it
>> became so quiet in these two NGs recently. What happened?
>>
>> Is Arlen and all his reincarnations still alive?
> 
> Marion posted 3 AM today.

Arlen's metamorphosis to a girl?

-- 
"Roma locuta, causa finita." (Augustinus)

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