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Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting

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First post2024-11-24 18:20 -0500
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  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-24 18:20 -0500
    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 18:33 -0500
      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 16:09 -0800
        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 19:20 -0500
          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 16:23 -0800
            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 19:50 -0500
              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 17:09 -0800
                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 20:34 -0500
                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 17:44 -0800
                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 21:03 -0500
                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 18:17 -0800
                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 21:37 -0500
                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 18:42 -0800
                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 21:58 -0500
                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 18:59 -0800
                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 22:19 -0500
                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 19:32 -0800
                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-24 22:48 -0500
                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 19:52 -0800
                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 23:20 -0500
                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 23:46 -0800
                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-25 06:18 -0500
                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-26 14:29 -0800
                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-26 17:51 -0500
                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-26 15:12 -0800
                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-26 18:26 -0500
                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-27 10:59 -0600
                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-27 10:55 -0600
                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-27 11:31 -0800
                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-02 11:16 -0600
                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-02 14:09 -0500
                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-02 13:26 -0600
                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-02 14:55 -0500
                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-03 08:47 -0600
                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Pierre <pierrej@shaw.ca> - 2024-12-03 09:51 +0100
                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-27 10:50 -0600
                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-25 15:35 -0600
                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-25 15:33 -0600
                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2024-11-25 22:32 +0000
                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 23:15 -0500
                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 23:46 -0800
                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-25 07:08 -0500
                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-25 07:46 -0500
                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-25 08:43 -0500
                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-25 08:59 -0500
                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-25 10:32 -0500
                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-26 08:32 -0500
                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-26 09:58 -0500
                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-26 10:35 -0500
                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-26 11:13 -0500
                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-27 10:45 -0600
                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-27 12:01 -0500
                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-27 12:32 -0500
                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-27 12:45 -0600
                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-27 13:50 -0500
                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-27 14:19 -0500
                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-27 14:32 -0500
                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-27 15:05 -0500
                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-27 12:28 -0800
                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-27 15:54 -0500
                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-27 15:58 -0800
                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-02 11:25 -0600
                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-02 14:16 -0500
                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-02 13:41 -0600
                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-02 14:59 -0500
                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-03 09:09 -0600
                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-02 11:24 -0600
                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-02 13:49 -0500
                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-02 14:28 -0500
                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-02 16:11 -0500
                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-02 16:38 -0500
                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-03 08:58 -0600
                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-03 13:34 -0500
                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-04 10:55 -0600
                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-04 12:45 -0500
                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-04 09:59 -0800
                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-04 13:17 -0500
                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-04 13:01 -0600
                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-04 12:59 -0600
                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-03 14:03 -0500
                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-04 11:00 -0600
                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-27 16:26 -0500
                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-27 16:56 -0500
                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-02 11:27 -0600
                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-02 11:21 -0600
                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-02 14:13 -0500
                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-02 13:33 -0600
                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-02 14:56 -0500
                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-03 08:52 -0600
                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-27 11:32 -0800
                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-27 15:08 -0500
                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-27 12:32 -0800
                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-27 16:00 -0500
                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-27 16:00 -0800
                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-02 11:18 -0600
                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-02 14:10 -0500
                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-02 13:30 -0600
                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-27 10:37 -0600
                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-26 10:06 -0600
                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-26 10:03 -0600
                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-26 14:32 -0800
                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-26 17:54 -0500
                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-26 15:15 -0800
                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2024-11-27 00:04 +0000
                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-26 19:16 -0500
                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Yon Wane <"yonwane-lol!"@pac2.com> - 2024-11-26 22:27 -0800
                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-27 08:29 -0500
                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-27 11:18 -0600
                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting ppd382 <xyz@vote.com> - 2025-03-11 08:13 +0000
                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Mai Keister <m.keister@altopia.net> - 2025-03-11 13:59 -0700
                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "jubox@ovens.net" <jubox@ovens.net> - 2025-03-18 17:48 +0000
                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting orangeneck <orangeneck@127.0.0.1> - 2025-03-29 22:06 +0100
                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-25 15:42 -0600
                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-26 14:31 -0800
                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-26 17:53 -0500
                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-26 15:13 -0800
                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-26 18:28 -0500
                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-26 15:38 -0800
                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-26 18:58 -0500
                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-26 16:16 -0800
                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-26 19:42 -0500
                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-26 17:33 -0800
                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-26 20:48 -0500
                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-27 06:25 -0500
                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-27 11:17 -0600
                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-06 19:28 -0500
                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-07 13:18 -0500
                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-07 17:03 -0500
                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-07 14:17 -0800
                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-07 17:39 -0500
                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-07 15:40 -0800
                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-07 18:53 -0500
                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-07 16:01 -0800
                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-07 19:19 -0500
                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-07 16:45 -0800
                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-07 20:14 -0500
                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-07 17:31 -0800
                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-07 20:43 -0500
                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-07 17:48 -0800
                                                                                              Microsoft Linux Distro (was: Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting) vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-12-08 01:53 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-07 20:58 -0500
                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-09 10:00 -0600
                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-09 09:59 -0600
                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-09 09:56 -0600
                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-09 09:48 -0600
                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-09 09:38 -0600
                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-09 09:36 -0600
                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-09 09:48 -0800
                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-09 12:55 -0500
                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-09 10:01 -0800
                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-09 13:13 -0500
                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-09 10:24 -0800
                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-09 13:56 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-09 10:57 -0800
                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-10 08:56 -0600
                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-09 14:02 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-09 11:21 -0800
                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-09 14:29 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-09 11:33 -0800
                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-10 09:02 -0600
                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Wayne Kerr <waynek@msu.edu> - 2024-12-14 21:50 +0100
                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-14 13:17 -0800
                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-10 09:01 -0600
                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Wayne Kerr <waynek@msu.edu> - 2024-12-14 21:14 +0100
                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-14 13:17 -0800
                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-14 16:21 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-14 13:34 -0800
                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-14 17:09 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-14 14:25 -0800
                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-14 17:32 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-14 14:41 -0800
                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-14 17:51 -0500
                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-14 15:04 -0800
                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-15 05:56 -0500
                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-15 09:24 -0800
                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-15 13:30 -0500
                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 11:38 -0800
                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 15:05 -0500
                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 12:26 -0800
                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 15:58 -0500
                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 13:10 -0800
                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 18:07 -0500
                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-16 19:56 -0500
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 10:39 -0500
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 10:30 -0800
                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 10:16 -0800
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 13:20 -0500
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 10:33 -0800
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 13:43 -0500
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 10:51 -0800
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 14:52 -0500
                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 12:35 -0800
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-17 15:39 -0500
                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 12:53 -0600
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                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-15 15:42 -0500
                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-15 15:48 -0500
                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-15 16:47 -0500
                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-15 17:01 -0500
                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-15 22:34 -0500
                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 10:25 -0500
                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-16 11:40 -0500
                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 12:02 -0500
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-16 12:50 -0500
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 12:54 -0500
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 11:08 -0800
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 14:13 -0500
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 11:31 -0800
                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 14:36 -0500
                                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 11:47 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 15:22 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 12:37 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 16:09 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 13:13 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 18:18 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 10:25 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 13:39 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 10:45 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 14:50 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 12:35 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-17 15:45 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 12:02 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 12:14 -0600
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                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 11:13 -0800
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 14:35 -0500
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 11:45 -0800
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 15:20 -0500
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 12:37 -0800
                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 16:10 -0500
                                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 13:14 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 18:20 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 10:25 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 13:41 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 10:46 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 14:51 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 12:36 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 16:09 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-17 16:34 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 19:19 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 16:22 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 20:26 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 18:21 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-18 09:03 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-18 09:24 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-18 13:01 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-18 10:36 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-18 14:03 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 12:41 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting will <willford@yahoo.com> - 2024-12-21 01:50 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-20 17:01 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-20 20:19 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-20 17:42 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-20 20:50 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-20 17:53 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-20 21:57 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-20 19:06 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-20 22:17 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-21 10:10 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-21 16:10 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 12:43 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-20 22:05 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-20 22:15 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-20 23:31 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-21 08:44 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-21 10:11 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-21 16:13 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Din004 <din004@oracle.com> - 2024-12-25 10:44 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-25 09:26 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-25 11:55 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2024-12-26 02:07 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-25 23:07 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting alex <alex_@pintrest.com> - 2024-12-26 00:44 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-26 09:39 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Jon Ball <jon-ball@spectrum.com> - 2024-12-26 22:09 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-26 13:37 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting wasabi <lotso@jollyroger.com> - 2024-12-28 14:33 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-28 14:36 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 17:43 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-28 14:47 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 17:55 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-28 15:55 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 19:00 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-28 16:02 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 20:30 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-28 19:02 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 22:07 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-28 19:42 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 22:48 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-28 19:53 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 23:04 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-28 20:07 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 23:16 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-28 21:53 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 14:09 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 11:21 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 14:34 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 11:37 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 14:47 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 12:15 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 15:22 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 12:42 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 16:08 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 16:40 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 19:59 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 17:10 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Jack Sovalot <hee-cawkforme@jack.sovalot> - 2024-12-30 04:09 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Red Zone <redzone@trump.com> - 2024-12-30 19:45 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-30 14:57 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-30 12:05 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-30 15:27 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2024-12-30 21:25 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2024-12-31 00:54 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-31 06:38 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Jack Sovalot <hee-cawkforme@jack.sovalot> - 2024-12-30 16:59 -0500
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 12:56 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 16:13 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 16:42 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 20:00 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 17:10 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 21:46 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 18:52 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 22:09 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 19:22 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 22:27 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 19:39 -0800
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Petry F." <petry_f@hushmail.com> - 2024-12-29 04:25 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-28 21:54 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-30 10:42 -0500
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2024-12-30 18:23 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-30 10:30 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-30 13:42 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-30 11:23 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-30 14:55 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-30 11:58 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-30 15:25 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-30 15:01 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-30 18:07 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-30 15:19 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-30 18:41 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-30 15:43 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-31 06:30 -0500
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-31 06:27 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-30 12:04 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-30 15:26 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-30 15:13 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-30 18:23 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-30 15:40 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-30 19:14 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-30 23:04 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-31 11:52 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Byrd <byrd@someoem.com> - 2025-01-02 03:02 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-01 21:08 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-01 18:44 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-01 22:01 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-01 22:12 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Rudy Ball <rudyball@gmx.com> - 2025-01-03 19:02 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-03 11:20 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-03 15:19 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-03 14:54 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-03 18:40 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-03 16:18 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-03 19:28 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-03 17:11 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-03 20:24 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-03 17:40 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-03 20:59 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-03 19:39 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 14:29 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-05 12:36 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 20:53 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-05 18:19 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 21:29 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-05 18:32 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 21:47 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-05 19:03 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 22:14 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-05 19:39 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 22:50 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-05 23:32 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2025-01-06 08:11 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Clint <clintb@infiniti.net> - 2025-01-13 00:36 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-13 09:16 -0800
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Rudy Johnson <rudyj@google.com> - 2025-01-21 14:06 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-21 14:18 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Sadler <sadler@msn.com> - 2025-01-26 06:28 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Rudy Canoza <rudy@phil.hendrie.con> - 2025-01-22 03:46 -0500
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting AlphaHeater <AlphaHeater21@6959.concepte.store> - 2025-01-06 02:50 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-01 07:31 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-28 21:50 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2024-12-29 01:30 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-28 21:49 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting wasabi <lotso@jollyroger.com> - 2024-12-28 15:57 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-28 16:03 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-26 08:39 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-25 19:24 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-26 11:05 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting ND beat Indy <choke@choke.choke> - 2024-12-20 21:37 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-21 09:35 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-20 20:17 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-20 17:18 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-20 20:30 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 12:41 -0600
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                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Gary M. Stewart <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2024-12-25 21:48 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 12:36 -0600
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                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 14:06 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 12:29 -0600
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                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 11:42 -0800
                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 15:16 -0500
                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 12:33 -0800
                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 16:04 -0500
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 13:13 -0800
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 18:18 -0500
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 10:20 -0800
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-16 16:29 -0500
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 17:53 -0500
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-16 19:51 -0500
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 10:38 -0500
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 10:29 -0800
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 10:18 -0800
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 13:23 -0500
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 10:31 -0800
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 13:20 -0600
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                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 11:40 -0800
                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 15:08 -0500
                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 12:29 -0800
                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 16:01 -0500
                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 13:30 -0800
                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 18:24 -0500
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-16 21:11 -0500
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 10:28 -0800
                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 13:11 -0600
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                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting hank <none@invalid.org> - 2024-12-16 00:02 +0100
                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 09:06 -0800
                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-14 18:21 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting hank <none@invalid.org> - 2024-12-15 23:06 +0100
                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-15 15:41 -0800
                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Duc Nguyen <dnguyen@somecorp.org> - 2024-12-15 19:10 -0800
                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-15 22:50 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-15 22:42 -0800
                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-15 22:35 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-10 08:56 -0600
                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-10 08:51 -0600
                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-10 08:49 -0600
                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-09 09:34 -0600
                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-09 09:32 -0600
                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-09 09:31 -0600
                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-12-07 23:59 +0000
                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-09 09:30 -0600
                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Rudy Canoza <rc@thejollykone.con> - 2024-12-08 04:06 -0500
                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-09 10:02 -0600
                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting T. Walz <tampons4sale@dont-email.me> - 2024-12-08 12:41 +0100
                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-09 09:29 -0600
                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-09 09:28 -0600
                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-09 09:27 -0600
                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-09 13:46 -0500
                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-10 08:48 -0600
                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-09 09:25 -0600
                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-27 11:11 -0600
                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-27 11:09 -0600
                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-27 11:07 -0600
                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-27 11:00 -0600
                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-25 15:38 -0600
                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-25 15:36 -0600
                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-25 15:36 -0600
                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-25 15:31 -0600
                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-25 15:31 -0600
                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-24 22:41 -0500
                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 23:13 -0500
                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 23:47 -0800
                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-25 06:59 -0500
                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-25 07:44 -0500
                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-25 08:18 -0500
                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-25 08:35 -0500
                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-25 08:58 -0500
                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-25 09:09 -0500
                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-25 10:40 -0500
                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-26 08:35 -0500
                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-26 09:59 -0500
                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-26 10:44 -0500
                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-27 10:48 -0600
                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-25 15:49 -0600
                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-25 15:47 -0600
                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-26 16:16 -0800
                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-26 19:46 -0500
                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-27 11:20 -0600
                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-25 15:28 -0600
                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-25 15:25 -0600
              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-25 15:24 -0600
      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-24 22:40 -0500
      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-25 12:37 -0600

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#145280

FromAlan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date2024-12-16 13:10 -0800
Message-ID<vjq4vo$1a7i3$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#145275
On 2024-12-16 12:58, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> 
>>>>>> You're conflating "value" with "monetary cost" alone.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not really, because it applies to prefab Winblows systems, too, they
>>>>> cheap out on certain parts to keep the prices competitive, that's why
>>>>> building my own was such a great investment, including of time itself.
>>>>
>>>> How does that even address my point?
>>>
>>> Because value is a quotient of money spent for material gained - my
>>> Gigabyte motherboard makes my system higher end than virtually any
>>> prefab PC system.  Apple, though, is probably equally good, just more
>>> costly.
>> In what MATERIAL way?
>>
>> What is a metric...
>>
>> ...that actually matters to your use case...
>>
>> ...that makes your "Gigabyte motherboard" "higher end" than a system you
>> could have just bought?
>>
>> Remember, you're the one who always concedes that a small difference
>> actually doesn't matter to you.
> 
> 
> But durability does matter - I had my previous computer, with an
> Intel-brand motherboard, for 10 years.  It was a fairly high-end
> system initially, ran the earlier forms of Windows 10 very well, and
> was still running Linux beautifully when replaced.  I'd like to think
> this machine could last as long, or even longer.
The i5 processor isn't consistent with your claim of "fairly high-end".

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#145292

FromJoel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2024-12-16 18:07 -0500
Message-ID<7jc1mj9cidqmta3tvi0cqfaa0hvt1ms22p@4ax.com>
In reply to#145280
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

>> durability does matter - I had my previous computer, with an
>> Intel-brand motherboard, for 10 years.  It was a fairly high-end
>> system initially, ran the earlier forms of Windows 10 very well, and
>> was still running Linux beautifully when replaced.  I'd like to think
>> this machine could last as long, or even longer.
>The i5 processor isn't consistent with your claim of "fairly high-end".


It wasn't intended to be in the 2021 device, it was intended to be
"pretty good".  The i5 in the 2010 device was higher end, because it
was an early model of that kind of processor.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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#145299

From-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
Date2024-12-16 19:56 -0500
Message-ID<vjqi8r$1ci8h$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#145292
On 12/16/24 6:07 PM, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> 
>>> durability does matter - I had my previous computer, with an
>>> Intel-brand motherboard, for 10 years.  It was a fairly high-end
>>> system initially, ran the earlier forms of Windows 10 very well, and
>>> was still running Linux beautifully when replaced.  I'd like to think
>>> this machine could last as long, or even longer.
>> The i5 processor isn't consistent with your claim of "fairly high-end".
> 
> 
> It wasn't intended to be in the 2021 device, it was intended to be
> "pretty good".  The i5 in the 2010 device was higher end, because it
> was an early model of that kind of processor.
> 

Oh, so the 2010 box had an i5 too?

Well, back in that era, the i5 was a newly designed/designated CPU, but 
it wasn't "higher end" because the i7 and Xeons were already out by then 
too, and Intel's corporate roadmap was that Xeons was for workstations 
and the i7 targeted the business and high-end consumer markets, which 
left the i5 for mainstream consumer and i3 for entry-level consumers.


-hh

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#145319

FromJoel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2024-12-17 10:39 -0500
Message-ID<go63mjl6djm6035h83vvdg137d2bvml3k2@4ax.com>
In reply to#145299
-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>On 12/16/24 6:07 PM, Joel wrote:
>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>> 
>>>> durability does matter - I had my previous computer, with an
>>>> Intel-brand motherboard, for 10 years.  It was a fairly high-end
>>>> system initially, ran the earlier forms of Windows 10 very well, and
>>>> was still running Linux beautifully when replaced.  I'd like to think
>>>> this machine could last as long, or even longer.
>>> The i5 processor isn't consistent with your claim of "fairly high-end".
>> 
>> It wasn't intended to be in the 2021 device, it was intended to be
>> "pretty good".  The i5 in the 2010 device was higher end, because it
>> was an early model of that kind of processor.
>
>Oh, so the 2010 box had an i5 too?
>
>Well, back in that era, the i5 was a newly designed/designated CPU, but 
>it wasn't "higher end" because the i7 and Xeons were already out by then 
>too, and Intel's corporate roadmap was that Xeons was for workstations 
>and the i7 targeted the business and high-end consumer markets, which 
>left the i5 for mainstream consumer and i3 for entry-level consumers.


There were still a lot of two-core CPUs being sold at the time, mine
was four-core.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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#145335

FromAlan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date2024-12-17 10:30 -0800
Message-ID<vjsg0q$1rknv$7@dont-email.me>
In reply to#145319
On 2024-12-17 07:39, Joel wrote:
> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>> On 12/16/24 6:07 PM, Joel wrote:
>>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> durability does matter - I had my previous computer, with an
>>>>> Intel-brand motherboard, for 10 years.  It was a fairly high-end
>>>>> system initially, ran the earlier forms of Windows 10 very well, and
>>>>> was still running Linux beautifully when replaced.  I'd like to think
>>>>> this machine could last as long, or even longer.
>>>> The i5 processor isn't consistent with your claim of "fairly high-end".
>>>
>>> It wasn't intended to be in the 2021 device, it was intended to be
>>> "pretty good".  The i5 in the 2010 device was higher end, because it
>>> was an early model of that kind of processor.
>>
>> Oh, so the 2010 box had an i5 too?
>>
>> Well, back in that era, the i5 was a newly designed/designated CPU, but
>> it wasn't "higher end" because the i7 and Xeons were already out by then
>> too, and Intel's corporate roadmap was that Xeons was for workstations
>> and the i7 targeted the business and high-end consumer markets, which
>> left the i5 for mainstream consumer and i3 for entry-level consumers.
> 
> 
> There were still a lot of two-core CPUs being sold at the time, mine
> was four-core.
And there were many far faster 4+ core CPUs offered by Intel.

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#145325

FromAlan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date2024-12-17 10:16 -0800
Message-ID<vjsf68$1rknu$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#145292
On 2024-12-16 15:07, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> 
>>> durability does matter - I had my previous computer, with an
>>> Intel-brand motherboard, for 10 years.  It was a fairly high-end
>>> system initially, ran the earlier forms of Windows 10 very well, and
>>> was still running Linux beautifully when replaced.  I'd like to think
>>> this machine could last as long, or even longer.
>> The i5 processor isn't consistent with your claim of "fairly high-end".
> 
> 
> It wasn't intended to be in the 2021 device, it was intended to be
> "pretty good".  The i5 in the 2010 device was higher end, because it
> was an early model of that kind of processor.
The i5 was NEVER "fairly high-end". The i5 was and is a mid-range 
processor.

Why can you not admit the obvious?

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#145329

FromJoel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2024-12-17 13:20 -0500
Message-ID<66g3mj1tfimjkgael8m9fbf1v0bisn2d7u@4ax.com>
In reply to#145325
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

>>>> durability does matter - I had my previous computer, with an
>>>> Intel-brand motherboard, for 10 years.  It was a fairly high-end
>>>> system initially, ran the earlier forms of Windows 10 very well, and
>>>> was still running Linux beautifully when replaced.  I'd like to think
>>>> this machine could last as long, or even longer.
>>> The i5 processor isn't consistent with your claim of "fairly high-end".
>> 
>> It wasn't intended to be in the 2021 device, it was intended to be
>> "pretty good".  The i5 in the 2010 device was higher end, because it
>> was an early model of that kind of processor.
>The i5 was NEVER "fairly high-end". The i5 was and is a mid-range 
>processor.
>
>Why can you not admit the obvious?


No, the CPU I had in my old computer was higher end, at the time I
assembled it.  There were still a lot of more primitive CPUs being
sold, at the time.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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#145337

FromAlan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date2024-12-17 10:33 -0800
Message-ID<vjsg5s$1rknv$8@dont-email.me>
In reply to#145329
On 2024-12-17 10:20, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> 
>>>>> durability does matter - I had my previous computer, with an
>>>>> Intel-brand motherboard, for 10 years.  It was a fairly high-end
>>>>> system initially, ran the earlier forms of Windows 10 very well, and
>>>>> was still running Linux beautifully when replaced.  I'd like to think
>>>>> this machine could last as long, or even longer.
>>>> The i5 processor isn't consistent with your claim of "fairly high-end".
>>>
>>> It wasn't intended to be in the 2021 device, it was intended to be
>>> "pretty good".  The i5 in the 2010 device was higher end, because it
>>> was an early model of that kind of processor.
>> The i5 was NEVER "fairly high-end". The i5 was and is a mid-range
>> processor.
>>
>> Why can you not admit the obvious?
> 
> 
> No, the CPU I had in my old computer was higher end, at the time I
> assembled it.  There were still a lot of more primitive CPUs being
> sold, at the time.
No. It was not "higher end".

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#145340

FromJoel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2024-12-17 13:43 -0500
Message-ID<mhh3mj9jq0t60moni6lj4bnrlue0lnv4ko@4ax.com>
In reply to#145337
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

>>> The i5 was NEVER "fairly high-end". The i5 was and is a mid-range
>>> processor.
>>>
>>> Why can you not admit the obvious?
>> 
>> No, the CPU I had in my old computer was higher end, at the time I
>> assembled it.  There were still a lot of more primitive CPUs being
>> sold, at the time.
>No. It was not "higher end".


Wrong.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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#145343

FromAlan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date2024-12-17 10:51 -0800
Message-ID<vjsh7r$1rknu$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#145340
On 2024-12-17 10:43, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> 
>>>> The i5 was NEVER "fairly high-end". The i5 was and is a mid-range
>>>> processor.
>>>>
>>>> Why can you not admit the obvious?
>>>
>>> No, the CPU I had in my old computer was higher end, at the time I
>>> assembled it.  There were still a lot of more primitive CPUs being
>>> sold, at the time.
>> No. It was not "higher end".
> 
> 
> Wrong.
> 

All the high-end processors Intel was producing in 2010 disagree.

In 2010, Intel released:

29 processors with 4 cores.

Just two of them were i5s.

As well as:

16 processors with 6 cores.

4 processors with 8 cores.

None of those were i5s.

Face facts, snowflake.

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#145346

FromJoel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2024-12-17 14:52 -0500
Message-ID<vil3mjt5ibq25a8ujidi4o9mo6jbp6gqkq@4ax.com>
In reply to#145343
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

>>>>> The i5 was NEVER "fairly high-end". The i5 was and is a mid-range
>>>>> processor.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why can you not admit the obvious?
>>>>
>>>> No, the CPU I had in my old computer was higher end, at the time I
>>>> assembled it.  There were still a lot of more primitive CPUs being
>>>> sold, at the time.
>>> No. It was not "higher end".
>> 
>> Wrong.
>
>All the high-end processors Intel was producing in 2010 disagree.
>
>In 2010, Intel released:
>
>29 processors with 4 cores.
>
>Just two of them were i5s.
>
>As well as:
>
>16 processors with 6 cores.
>
>4 processors with 8 cores.
>
>None of those were i5s.
>
>Face facts, snowflake.


<yawn>

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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#145347

FromAlan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date2024-12-17 12:35 -0800
Message-ID<vjsn9l$1t8je$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#145346
On 2024-12-17 11:52, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> 
>>>>>> The i5 was NEVER "fairly high-end". The i5 was and is a mid-range
>>>>>> processor.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why can you not admit the obvious?
>>>>>
>>>>> No, the CPU I had in my old computer was higher end, at the time I
>>>>> assembled it.  There were still a lot of more primitive CPUs being
>>>>> sold, at the time.
>>>> No. It was not "higher end".
>>>
>>> Wrong.
>>
>> All the high-end processors Intel was producing in 2010 disagree.
>>
>> In 2010, Intel released:
>>
>> 29 processors with 4 cores.
>>
>> Just two of them were i5s.
>>
>> As well as:
>>
>> 16 processors with 6 cores.
>>
>> 4 processors with 8 cores.
>>
>> None of those were i5s.
>>
>> Face facts, snowflake.
> 
> 
> <yawn>
> 

Yeah... ...grokking facts would make a mind like yours tired.

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#145350

From-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
Date2024-12-17 15:39 -0500
Message-ID<vjsnh5$1t6l6$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#145343
On 12/17/24 1:51 PM, Alan wrote:
> On 2024-12-17 10:43, Joel wrote:
>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>> The i5 was NEVER "fairly high-end". The i5 was and is a mid-range
>>>>> processor.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why can you not admit the obvious?
>>>>
>>>> No, the CPU I had in my old computer was higher end, at the time I
>>>> assembled it.  There were still a lot of more primitive CPUs being
>>>> sold, at the time.
>>> No. It was not "higher end".
>>
>>
>> Wrong.
>>
> 
> All the high-end processors Intel was producing in 2010 disagree.
> 
> In 2010, Intel released:
> 
> 29 processors with 4 cores.
> 
> Just two of them were i5s.
> 
> As well as:
> 
> 16 processors with 6 cores.
> 
> 4 processors with 8 cores.
> 
> None of those were i5s.
> 
> Face facts, snowflake.

Joel doesn't realize that when I was stating about how the 2010 Intel 
lineup...

[quote]
Well, back in that era, the i5 was a newly designed/designated CPU, but 
it wasn't "higher end" because the i7 and Xeons were already out by then 
too, and Intel's corporate roadmap was that Xeons was for workstations 
and the i7 targeted the business and high-end consumer markets, which 
left the i5 for mainstream consumer and i3 for entry-level consumers.
[/quote]

That I was paraphrasing from Intel's literature descriptions on Wiki.
As such, its not my claim (nor Alan's) that the i5 was just "mainstream" 
from 2009 to present.


-hh

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#145635

From"Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net>
Date2024-12-25 12:53 -0600
Message-ID<vkhodd$2hgi2$26@dont-email.me>
In reply to#145280

"Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in message 
news:vjq4vo$1a7i3$1@dont-email.me...
> On 2024-12-16 12:58, Joel wrote:
>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>>>> You're conflating "value" with "monetary cost" alone.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not really, because it applies to prefab Winblows systems, too, they
>>>>>> cheap out on certain parts to keep the prices competitive, that's why
>>>>>> building my own was such a great investment, including of time 
>>>>>> itself.
>>>>>
>>>>> How does that even address my point?
>>>>
>>>> Because value is a quotient of money spent for material gained - my
>>>> Gigabyte motherboard makes my system higher end than virtually any
>>>> prefab PC system.  Apple, though, is probably equally good, just more
>>>> costly.
>>> In what MATERIAL way?
>>>
>>> What is a metric...
>>>
>>> ...that actually matters to your use case...
>>>
>>> ...that makes your "Gigabyte motherboard" "higher end" than a system you
>>> could have just bought?
>>>
>>> Remember, you're the one who always concedes that a small difference
>>> actually doesn't matter to you.
>>
>>
>> But durability does matter - I had my previous computer, with an
>> Intel-brand motherboard, for 10 years.  It was a fairly high-end
>> system initially, ran the earlier forms of Windows 10 very well, and
>> was still running Linux beautifully when replaced.  I'd like to think
>> this machine could last as long, or even longer.
> The i5 processor isn't consistent with your claim of "fairly high-end".

It's high end because as a self proclaimed "elite" Joel says it is.

Though apparently he can't install an OS unless it's idiot-proof
 

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#145632

From"Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net>
Date2024-12-25 12:52 -0600
Message-ID<vkhnkj$2hg2e$55@dont-email.me>
In reply to#145275

"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:2v41mj1epotlidua3qvv19a6qt3pr3iv49@4ax.com...
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>> You're conflating "value" with "monetary cost" alone.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not really, because it applies to prefab Winblows systems, too, they
>>>>> cheap out on certain parts to keep the prices competitive, that's why
>>>>> building my own was such a great investment, including of time itself.
>>>>
>>>> How does that even address my point?
>>>
>>> Because value is a quotient of money spent for material gained - my
>>> Gigabyte motherboard makes my system higher end than virtually any
>>> prefab PC system.  Apple, though, is probably equally good, just more
>>> costly.
>>In what MATERIAL way?
>>
>>What is a metric...
>>
>>...that actually matters to your use case...
>>
>>...that makes your "Gigabyte motherboard" "higher end" than a system you
>>could have just bought?
>>
>>Remember, you're the one who always concedes that a small difference
>>actually doesn't matter to you.
>
>
> But durability does matter - I had my previous computer, with an
> Intel-brand motherboard, for 10 years.  It was a fairly high-end
> system initially, ran the earlier forms of Windows 10 very well, and
> was still running Linux beautifully when replaced.  I'd like to think
> this machine could last as long, or even longer.

Says the person who has attacked me for running Win7 despite the obvious 
performance advantages on even moderately modern hardware.

 

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#145634

From"Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net>
Date2024-12-25 12:52 -0600
Message-ID<vkhoce$2hgi2$25@dont-email.me>
In reply to#145275

"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:2v41mj1epotlidua3qvv19a6qt3pr3iv49@4ax.com...
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>> You're conflating "value" with "monetary cost" alone.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not really, because it applies to prefab Winblows systems, too, they
>>>>> cheap out on certain parts to keep the prices competitive, that's why
>>>>> building my own was such a great investment, including of time itself.
>>>>
>>>> How does that even address my point?
>>>
>>> Because value is a quotient of money spent for material gained - my
>>> Gigabyte motherboard makes my system higher end than virtually any
>>> prefab PC system.  Apple, though, is probably equally good, just more
>>> costly.
>>In what MATERIAL way?
>>
>>What is a metric...
>>
>>...that actually matters to your use case...
>>
>>...that makes your "Gigabyte motherboard" "higher end" than a system you
>>could have just bought?
>>
>>Remember, you're the one who always concedes that a small difference
>>actually doesn't matter to you.
>
>
> But durability does matter - I had my previous computer, with an
> Intel-brand motherboard, for 10 years.  It was a fairly high-end
> system initially, ran the earlier forms of Windows 10 very well, and
> was still running Linux beautifully when replaced.  I'd like to think
> this machine could last as long, or even longer.

Says the person who has attacked me for running Win7 despite the obvious 
performance advantages on even moderately modern hardware.

 

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#145218

From-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
Date2024-12-15 15:42 -0500
Message-ID<vjnevk$l418$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#145216
On 12/15/24 12:24 PM, Alan wrote:
> On 2024-12-15 02:56, Joel wrote:
>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>>>> Assembling hardware and installing OSes...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ...that's the anomaly, not the norm.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Spoken like a bona fide Apple sheep. :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Nope.
>>>>>
>>>>> Spoken like someone who knows the statistics.
>>>>>
>>>>> Most people...
>>>>>
>>>>> ...the VAST majority...
>>>>>
>>>>> ...buy a COMPUTER...
>>>>>
>>>>> ...not a collection of parts they can make into a computer.
>>>>
>>>> People who want real value will do what I did.
>>>
>>> I'm sorry (and I know this will come as a shock to you), but:
>>>
>>> People who value things differently than you do are not automatically
>>> stupid.
>>>
>>> I realize that concept is a little too advanced for your adolescent
>>> thinking, but it's still true.
>>
>>
>> It's not adolescent thinking, it's simple math.  And I'm not calling
>> you "stupid", I'm pointing out that you can always do far better than
>> Apple, on value, if you build yourself.
> 
> And if you don't value you your own time.
> 
> Yu're conflating "value" with "monetary cost" alone.


Ah, its the lame old classic bit of "my labor is always frrrrreee!".

Well, as I've said before:  prove that your labor is worth so little to 
you by coming over and mowing my lawn.

Of course, at this time of year, their task will be raking up leaves .. 
or if it snows later, to get out there in the cold and shovel:  I'm 
flexible for what menial labor task they'll prove themselves with <g>.


-hh

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#145219

FromJoel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2024-12-15 15:48 -0500
Message-ID<btfuljhonmor2o2v2bqsg44kvjqrqb608r@4ax.com>
In reply to#145218
-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>On 12/15/24 12:24 PM, Alan wrote:
>> On 2024-12-15 02:56, Joel wrote:
>>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> People who value things differently than you do are not automatically
>>>> stupid.
>>>>
>>>> I realize that concept is a little too advanced for your adolescent
>>>> thinking, but it's still true.
>>>
>>> It's not adolescent thinking, it's simple math.  And I'm not calling
>>> you "stupid", I'm pointing out that you can always do far better than
>>> Apple, on value, if you build [a computer] yourself.
>> 
>> And if you don't value you your own time.
>> 
>> Yu're conflating "value" with "monetary cost" alone.
>
>Ah, its the lame old classic bit of "my labor is always frrrrreee!".
>
>Well, as I've said before:  prove that your labor is worth so little to 
>you by coming over and mowing my lawn.
>
>Of course, at this time of year, their task will be raking up leaves .. 
>or if it snows later, to get out there in the cold and shovel:  I'm 
>flexible for what menial labor task they'll prove themselves with <g>.


Labor and the time it takes is just part of getting a good PC, you
have to buy it as parts, you have to design it.  You could pay a
fortune for some other person to do the work for you, but it's not
worth it, you'd be better off in that case with a decent prefab
machine.  But what do you do with IKEA furniture?  Do you pay someone
to assemble it, or do you just bite the bullet and take the time? It's
not so different with a PC, it's something you'll get a lot of use out
of.  I've already had mine for 2 1/2 years, and it's like new. Worth
every minute I put in, assembling it.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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#145220

From-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
Date2024-12-15 16:47 -0500
Message-ID<vjnip4$l418$7@dont-email.me>
In reply to#145219
On 12/15/24 3:48 PM, Joel wrote:
> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>> On 12/15/24 12:24 PM, Alan wrote:
>>> On 2024-12-15 02:56, Joel wrote:
>>>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> People who value things differently than you do are not automatically
>>>>> stupid.
>>>>>
>>>>> I realize that concept is a little too advanced for your adolescent
>>>>> thinking, but it's still true.
>>>>
>>>> It's not adolescent thinking, it's simple math.  And I'm not calling
>>>> you "stupid", I'm pointing out that you can always do far better than
>>>> Apple, on value, if you build [a computer] yourself.
>>>
>>> And if you don't value you your own time.
>>>
>>> Yu're conflating "value" with "monetary cost" alone.
>>
>> Ah, its the lame old classic bit of "my labor is always frrrrreee!".
>>
>> Well, as I've said before:  prove that your labor is worth so little to
>> you by coming over and mowing my lawn.
>>
>> Of course, at this time of year, their task will be raking up leaves ..
>> or if it snows later, to get out there in the cold and shovel:  I'm
>> flexible for what menial labor task they'll prove themselves with <g>.
> 
> 
> Labor and the time it takes is just part of getting a good PC, you
> have to buy it as parts, you have to design it.  You could pay a
> fortune for some other person to do the work for you, but it's not
> worth it, you'd be better off in that case with a decent prefab
> machine.  

When one buys a prebuilt, those design decision costs are amortized 
across many thousands of units instead of just your one white box.

As I said weeks ago, a colleague used to run his own small business 
assembling white boxes - - he shut it down years ago because the OEMs 
became price-competitive and there was no margin left for him, even as 
he was typically building a dozen identical units at a shot.

Likewise, we've also seen how a Mac mini stops the living shit out of 
your i5 DIY, while costing less than the $1150 you've spent to date. So 
just where is this so-called 'fortune' that people allegedly pay?


> But what do you do with IKEA furniture?  Do you pay someone
> to assemble it, or do you just bite the bullet and take the time? It's
> not so different with a PC, it's something you'll get a lot of use out
> of.  I've already had mine for 2 1/2 years, and it's like new. Worth
> every minute I put in, assembling it.

No, its quite different, because you're not assembling from a set of 
instructions & a single box of parts that Ikea designed:  you went to 
NewEgg/etc and semi-randomly chose stuff that you then *hoped* would all 
fit together and work:  you took on that entire risk onto yourself, and 
in context, saved essentially zero dollars.


-hh

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#145221

FromJoel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2024-12-15 17:01 -0500
Message-ID<o4kuljpkfekee6d98g7t5ctan8bjves32n@4ax.com>
In reply to#145220
-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>On 12/15/24 3:48 PM, Joel wrote:
>> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>>> On 12/15/24 12:24 PM, Alan wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Yu're conflating "value" with "monetary cost" alone.
>>>
>>> Ah, its the lame old classic bit of "my labor is always frrrrreee!".
>>>
>>> Well, as I've said before:  prove that your labor is worth so little to
>>> you by coming over and mowing my lawn.
>>>
>>> Of course, at this time of year, their task will be raking up leaves ..
>>> or if it snows later, to get out there in the cold and shovel:  I'm
>>> flexible for what menial labor task they'll prove themselves with <g>.
>> 
>> Labor and the time it takes is just part of getting a good PC, you
>> have to buy it as parts, you have to design it.  You could pay a
>> fortune for some other person to do the work for you, but it's not
>> worth it, you'd be better off in that case with a decent prefab
>> machine.  
>
>When one buys a prebuilt, those design decision costs are amortized 
>across many thousands of units instead of just your one white box.
>
>As I said weeks ago, a colleague used to run his own small business 
>assembling white boxes - - he shut it down years ago because the OEMs 
>became price-competitive and there was no margin left for him, even as 
>he was typically building a dozen identical units at a shot.


Newegg has prefab systems that aren't the name brand, that's what I'd
go for if I wanted an OEM, but you can bet anything it won't have a
motherboard like the one I bought as a part.


>Likewise, we've also seen how a Mac mini stops the living shit out of 
>your i5 DIY, while costing less than the $1150 you've spent to date. So 
>just where is this so-called 'fortune' that people allegedly pay?


The Mac mini is OK, I wouldn't say it "stops the living shit out of"
my machine.  It runs Apple's goofy OS, in any event.


>> But what do you do with IKEA furniture?  Do you pay someone
>> to assemble it, or do you just bite the bullet and take the time? It's
>> not so different with a PC, it's something you'll get a lot of use out
>> of.  I've already had mine for 2 1/2 years, and it's like new. Worth
>> every minute I put in, assembling it.
>
>No, its quite different, because you're not assembling from a set of 
>instructions & a single box of parts that Ikea designed:  you went to 
>NewEgg/etc and semi-randomly chose stuff that you then *hoped* would all 
>fit together and work:  you took on that entire risk onto yourself, and 
>in context, saved essentially zero dollars.


If I had spent a comparable amount on a comparable OEM PC, it'd not be
nearly as good.  That's undeniable.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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