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  Two Questions Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2024-12-02 11:24 -0700
    Re: Two Questions Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2024-12-02 18:53 +0000
    Re: Two Questions "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-02 22:03 +0100
      Re: Two Questions Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2024-12-03 01:15 +0000
        Re: Two Questions micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2024-12-02 23:04 -0500
      Re: Two Questions Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2024-12-03 08:30 -0700
    Re: Two Questions micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2024-12-02 22:57 -0500
      Re: Two Questions Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-12-03 14:15 +0000
        Re: Two Questions Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-12-03 14:25 +0000
          Re: Two Questions "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-03 15:46 +0100
          Re: Two Questions Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-12-03 16:01 +0100
            Re: Two Questions Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-03 16:21 +0000
        Re: Two Questions Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-03 16:28 +0000
          Re: Two Questions Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2024-12-03 11:58 -0700
            Re: Two Questions "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-03 20:14 +0100
          Re: Two Questions "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-03 20:11 +0100
            Re: Two Questions Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> - 2024-12-03 19:25 +0000
              Re: Two Questions "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-03 20:38 +0100
            Re: Two Questions Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2024-12-04 08:21 -0700
              Re: Two Questions Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-04 16:36 +0000
                Re: Two Questions "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-04 19:46 +0100
                  Re: Two Questions Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-12-04 18:54 +0000
                    Re: Two Questions "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-04 20:10 +0100
                      Re: Two Questions Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-04 19:22 +0000
                        Re: Two Questions "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-04 20:57 +0100
                        Re: Two Questions Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-12-04 23:26 +0000
                          Re: Two Questions "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-05 00:53 +0100
                            Re: Two Questions Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-12-05 08:10 +0000
                              Re: Two Questions "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-05 11:45 +0100
                                Re: Two Questions Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-12-05 11:10 +0000
                                Re: Two Questions Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> - 2024-12-05 12:48 +0000
                                  Re: Two Questions "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-05 15:22 +0100
                                Re: Two Questions micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2024-12-06 00:13 -0500
                                  Re: Two Questions sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> - 2024-12-06 00:53 -0600
                                  Re: Two Questions "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-06 13:18 +0100
                          Re: Two Questions Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-05 11:13 +0000
                  Re: Two Questions Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-04 19:08 +0000
                    Re: Two Questions "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-04 21:00 +0100
                Re: Two Questions Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-12-04 18:52 +0000
                Re: Two Questions Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2024-12-05 08:42 -0700
                  Re: Two Questions Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-12-05 18:32 +0000
      Re: Two Questions "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-03 15:50 +0100
      Re: Two Questions Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2024-12-03 08:36 -0700
    Re: Two Questions Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-12-03 07:54 +0000
      Re: Two Questions micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2024-12-03 13:16 -0500
        Re: Two Questions "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-03 20:19 +0100
          Re: Two Questions Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-12-03 22:24 +0100
            Re: Two Questions "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-03 22:54 +0100
              Re: Two Questions Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-12-04 02:07 +0100
                Re: Two Questions "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-04 03:10 +0100
                  Re: Two Questions Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-12-04 07:26 +0100
                    Re: Two Questions Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-04 11:08 +0000
                    Re: Two Questions "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-04 12:58 +0100
                      Re: Two Questions Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-12-04 15:46 +0100
                      Re: Two Questions Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-12-04 15:53 +0100
                        Re: Two Questions sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> - 2024-12-04 09:57 -0600
                          Re: Two Questions Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-12-07 08:57 +0100
                            Re: Two Questions "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-07 14:38 +0100
                              Re: Two Questions Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-12-07 14:54 +0100
                              Re: Two Questions micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2024-12-09 09:20 -0500
                                Re: Two Questions Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-12-09 18:41 +0100
                            Re: Two Questions sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> - 2024-12-07 08:13 -0600
    Re: Two Questions "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2024-12-04 22:38 +0100

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#144954

Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:
> On 4 Dec 2024 16:36:10 GMT, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
> wrote:
> 
>> Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 3 Dec 2024 20:11:38 +0100, "Carlos E.R."
>>> <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 2024-12-03 17:28, Frank Slootweg wrote:
>>>>> Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
>>>>>> micky wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> rent a sim in the country I'm going to.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> A SIM for any EU country ought to allow free roaming to any other EU
>>>>>> country, so the O/P won't need three SIMs.
>>>>> 
>>>>> And for the EU you probably don't need to rent a SIM, but just buy
>>>>> one, probably with a pre-paid plan.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ken said "I'll be in Europe (Spain, France, Italy)...". If he visits
>>>>> them in that order, Carlos may be able to give some suggestions/pointers
>>>>> for Spain. If Ken could indicate how much minutes/'texts'/GB he would
>>>>> need per unit of time, that would help.
>>>> 
>>>> Orange had a nice offer two years ago, but I don't know currently. 
>>>> Almost unlimited usage for 50 or 60 euros, for a month.
>>> 
>>> Thanks, but much more than I'm  willing to spend. I hope to never need
>>> to use it, but just want something available in case I need to.
>> 
>> You said you wanted to be able to call a taxi, in case you need one.
>> If so, you need to be prepared and that something is "available" is of
>> little help in such cases, you need to *have* it.
>> 
>> My advice: If you have a dual-SIM phone, buy a local pre-paid SIM when
>> you arrive. Will probably only cost you the credit supplied on the SIM,
>> i.e. some 10 dollars or so. If you don't have a dual-SIM phone, but can
>> swap SIMs (i.e. you can't be contacted on your US number, but can still
>> use things like WhatsApp), do the same (pre-paid SIM).
> 
> 
> Thanks. It turns out that I had forgotten that I already have such a
> SIM, one that I bought a year ago, for a trip I had to cancel.

It's probably expired. SIM don't last very long if you don't use them. 

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#144810

On 2024-12-03 04:57, micky wrote:
> Do you speak the languages of any or all 3 countries?   Because I still
> don't, and I wanted news or talk radio, not just music, I wanted some
> non-local station.  YOu don't have to decide this until you need to, but
> the way to get stations out of the geographical zone is with a VPN.  I
> tried Firefox VPN and I couldnt' get it to work, then Nord VPN and I
> coudln't get it to work, and I wondered if I was as smart as my mother
> told me I was.  But Express VPN installed very easily, and for the same
> price, it goes into Windows and on your Android phone. Worked really
> well, including for videos from the US. (Had to turn if off a few times
> to listen to a local station)  Pay by the month and when you get home
> you can cancel it.
> 
> I used Tunein to listen to American news etc. (I was careful not to but
> I accidentally said I wanted the paid version and let the free month go
> by using it and had to pay for the next momnth.)

You do not need an VPN to tune radio stations on internet. There are 
some apps (free), and some web sites.

Simple Radio app I found reasonable (I tried several apps). Caveat: it 
does not want to exit and has to be killed.

https://streema.com is very good. Using it with Firefox in a laptop you 
can find out the actual URL and copy it over to VLC and use that one 
instead for the listening, with lower CPU load.

Possibly, if you manage to transfer the URL to the phone, you can listen 
on the phone using VLC.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#144817

On Mon, 02 Dec 2024 22:57:11 -0500, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
wrote:

>In comp.mobile.android, on Mon, 02 Dec 2024 11:24:33 -0700, Ken Blake
><Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:
>
>>I'll be in Europe (Spain, France, Italy) this coming March and April.
>
>Lucky you.  Now I want to go somewhere.  (We'll see if the doctor can
>lessen my back pain, so I can walk again. (At least I can still drive.))


I also have back pain. My hope is that I can manage with it.


>>I have a Google Pixel 4a. What can I do to enable my phone to make and
>>receive calls while I'm away?
>
>For a trip that long, I doubt any plan by your US cellular provider will
>be anywhere near as cheap as what I do, rent a sim in the country I'm
>going to.   One or 2 years I had it mailed to me in Baltimore (they had
>an agent in the US who did that.) Other times, I got the SIM at or near
>the airport, when I landed. I got good advice from Trip Advisor on which
>sim guy was good. (there were really only two selling to the US and they
>were both good.)   The first year I used Skype to call home and even
>bought a Skype phone number, then Whatsapp, but as time went on, the
>SIMs I got there included a USA phone number, so it was really easy for
>people to reach me.  I don't know how common this is in the 3 countries
>yuu're going to.  
>>
>>What can I do to get walking maps of the cities I'll be in into Waze
>>or Google maps.
>
>I know someone who helped develop Waze, so I have great affection for
>it, but Waza in my opinion is mostly for directions, but google maps is
>mostly for knowing where you are and what is nearby.  I don't need
>directions that much, I know how to read a map, and Google maps has
>directions when I need them, so I use it.   I brought a laptop and when
>directions mattered, I would plan my travels the night before, and send
>or email or both the directions to the phone. 
>
>Are you renting a car?  

No. I'll be on a tour. What I basically want to know is how to get
back to the hotel, if I can't walk anymore

>Lots of suggestions if you are. What's the best
>clip to attach the phone to the dashboard, etc. 
>
>Do you speak the languages of any or all 3 countries? 


A little of each. I'm fluent in none of them, but I'm best in Italian,


>  Because I still
>don't, and I wanted news or talk radio, not just music, I wanted some
>non-local station.  YOu don't have to decide this until you need to, but
>the way to get stations out of the geographical zone is with a VPN.  I
>tried Firefox VPN and I couldnt' get it to work, then Nord VPN and I
>coudln't get it to work, and I wondered if I was as smart as my mother
>told me I was.  But Express VPN installed very easily, and for the same
>price, it goes into Windows and on your Android phone. Worked really
>well, including for videos from the US. (Had to turn if off a few times
>to listen to a local station)  Pay by the month and when you get home
>you can cancel it.  
>
>I used Tunein to listen to American news etc. (I was careful not to but
>I accidentally said I wanted the paid version and let the free month go
>by using it and had to pay for the next momnth.) 
>
>The new/used  laptop I bought tonight has a place for a SIM, but I used
>and will likely still use, my phone as a hotspot to feed internet to the
>laptop.  All phones can be hotspots now, right?  Or at laest yours can? 
>
>At least 2 or 3 years, my car had a video screen and worked with that
>app which casts Android to the car radio. I forget the name. So I could
>get google maps on the car screen, but it's not the whole system. The
>map is there, and maybe, I forget, restaurants, hotels, tourist things,
>at least a few, but  you can't tap on them and learn anything about
>them.  For that you need the phone, and at least in 2021, you could not
>have anything on the phone and the car screen at the same time, iiuc. So
>I ended up putting OSMand on the car screen, and it turns out it's
>easier and safer to read when driving than google maps is. I kept google
>on the phone and referred to it and all its details when I needed it. 
>
>(Sometimes I ran the laptop off the cigarette lighter, and one day I was
>really into it and wanted to put GPS into the laptop, and they have
>that, but it didn't sound like it worked that well. I've given up that
>plan to have GPS.  But I still use the laptop in the car a lot.
>Sometimes I sleep in the car, use it before I sleep and then check my
>email in the morning.  I roll up my clothes so the laptop can sit level
>on the passenger seat.   The new laptop is only 4 pounds, instead of 6.
>I guess that is good, even though all the accessories weigh another 4
>pounds.) 
>
>There was also a local app with walkng tours of a quite a few places
>around the country. I only found one interesting but it was really good,
>historical. Your countries probably have that.  I think I heard about
>mine on TripAdvisor.com. 

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#144794

Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:
> I'll be in Europe (Spain, France, Italy) this coming March and April.
> 
> I have a Google Pixel 4a. What can I do to enable my phone to make and
> receive calls while I'm away?

There's no technical reason why it can't. Speak to your provider. 

If you want to receive calls from people in Europe the model here is caller
pays, and they may not be keen on calling a US number. It's very expensive.


Install WhatsApp as most people and companies in those countries use it by
default for most communication. It doesn't suffer from call costs so they
can "call" you on your US no. for "free". It requires data, but most people
have large/unlimited data caps. 

> What can I do to get walking maps of the cities I'll be in into Waze
> or Google maps.

Make sure you have data roaming enabled and they'll work as normal. Again
check with your provider re costs. 

As an aside, I'd also recommend getting off your phone and just wander
about. There's a huge amount of hidden gems in European cities and nothing
beats finding a great little square and cafe that's off the beaten track. 

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#144830

In comp.mobile.android, on Tue, 3 Dec 2024 07:54:35 -0000 (UTC), Chris
<ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>Install WhatsApp as most people and companies in those countries use it by
>default for most communication. It doesn't suffer from call costs so they
>can "call" you on your US no. for "free". It requires data, but most people
>have large/unlimited data caps. 

Yes, Whatsapp is fantastic.  Especially if you want to share part of
your trip with someone back home.  I gave 60 or 90 minute video tours of
a couple places where I was to a friend back home. She's seen more of a
couple obscure places than people who have actually been there. And it
was all free (I had plenty of data.)  
>
>> What can I do to get walking maps of the cities I'll be in into Waze
>> or Google maps.
>
>Make sure you have data roaming enabled and they'll work as normal. Again
>check with your provider re costs. 
>
>As an aside, I'd also recommend getting off your phone and just wander
>about. There's a huge amount of hidden gems in European cities and nothing
>beats finding a great little square and cafe that's off the beaten track. 

One of the advantages (maybe the only one) of a bad back, is that I have
to sit frequently and during that time I watch the setting and the other
people.  It's very nice. 

I've twice had nerve anesthesia (prepartory to ablation, had it worked),
once or twice steroid shots (which seemed to give me one good half-day,
but no more), and tomorrow he is testing spinal cord stimulation.  A
7-day test and if it works, he's going to want to implant somthing a tad
bigger than a fig newtow in my body somewhere, instead of taping it to
my side like tomorrow.  They say 50% reduction is likely, or something,
but in a moment of trying to get me to do this, he said "If all of the
pain is gone".  Note the word "if".  The manufacturers say the test
should do 70% and only to expect 50% or less.  No one but he has said
100% was possible, but maybe he knows it is. Or maybe he was just trying
to tempt me.  He says he's done 400 in the last 5 years. 

Oh, Ken, you might consider this or some other design: 
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08PT4GRZM/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I took it on my last trip, 3 weeks in Guatemala, and used it in one
museum, and in the Guatemala City Zoo.  At the zoo I saw two other
people carrying their own seats, of two other designs, one an X-style
camp stool and I don't remember the other

The one above fits easily in a suitcase (despite the dimensions that a
similar gives. Sometimes Amazon dimensions include packaging. ). It'
opens and closes quickly, and is stable.  It kept falling off my
shoulder when I used the strap, but something could be worked out.
Adding some other comforable strap that would attach to it or the first
strap and reach around to the other side of one's neck.   

And there are other totally different designs too. 

I doubt if a tour will take you to the zoo, but they are great at the
zoo. There were lots of benches at the GCZoo, but none were in front of
the animals.  You're sitting down so even if others are there, you're
not in their way,and you can stay as long as you want watching animals. 

Now I keep it in the trunk of my car, and when I went to a demolition
derby a month ago, I found there were no seats at all.  Glad I had this.

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#144839

On 2024-12-03 19:16, micky wrote:
> In comp.mobile.android, on Tue, 3 Dec 2024 07:54:35 -0000 (UTC), Chris
> <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>>
>> Install WhatsApp as most people and companies in those countries use it by
>> default for most communication. It doesn't suffer from call costs so they
>> can "call" you on your US no. for "free". It requires data, but most people
>> have large/unlimited data caps.
> 
> Yes, Whatsapp is fantastic.  Especially if you want to share part of
> your trip with someone back home.  I gave 60 or 90 minute video tours of
> a couple places where I was to a friend back home. She's seen more of a
> couple obscure places than people who have actually been there. And it
> was all free (I had plenty of data.)

Otherwise, do not forget RCS. If your friends back home do not have 
whatsapp, they may have RCS; maybe they just need to activate it. If 
available, it is is also gratis.



-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#144844

On 03.12.24 20:19, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2024-12-03 19:16, micky wrote:
>> In comp.mobile.android, on Tue, 3 Dec 2024 07:54:35 -0000 (UTC), Chris
>> <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Install WhatsApp as most people and companies in those countries use it by
>>> default for most communication. It doesn't suffer from call costs so they
>>> can "call" you on your US no. for "free". It requires data, but most people
>>> have large/unlimited data caps.
>>
>> Yes, Whatsapp is fantastic.  Especially if you want to share part of
>> your trip with someone back home.  I gave 60 or 90 minute video tours of
>> a couple places where I was to a friend back home. She's seen more of a
>> couple obscure places than people who have actually been there. And it
>> was all free (I had plenty of data.)
> 
> Otherwise, do not forget RCS. If your friends back home do not have 
> whatsapp, they may have RCS; maybe they just need to activate it. If 
> available, it is is also gratis.

Seriously?!


-- 
"Roma locuta, causa finita." (Augustinus)

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#144845

On 2024-12-03 22:24, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
> On 03.12.24 20:19, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2024-12-03 19:16, micky wrote:
>>> In comp.mobile.android, on Tue, 3 Dec 2024 07:54:35 -0000 (UTC), Chris
>>> <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Install WhatsApp as most people and companies in those countries use it by
>>>> default for most communication. It doesn't suffer from call costs so they
>>>> can "call" you on your US no. for "free". It requires data, but most people
>>>> have large/unlimited data caps.
>>>
>>> Yes, Whatsapp is fantastic.  Especially if you want to share part of
>>> your trip with someone back home.  I gave 60 or 90 minute video tours of
>>> a couple places where I was to a friend back home. She's seen more of a
>>> couple obscure places than people who have actually been there. And it
>>> was all free (I had plenty of data.)
>>
>> Otherwise, do not forget RCS. If your friends back home do not have
>> whatsapp, they may have RCS; maybe they just need to activate it. If
>> available, it is is also gratis.
> 
> Seriously?!
> 
> 
Of course.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#144847

On 03.12.24 22:54, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2024-12-03 22:24, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>> On 03.12.24 20:19, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>> On 2024-12-03 19:16, micky wrote:
>>>> In comp.mobile.android, on Tue, 3 Dec 2024 07:54:35 -0000 (UTC), Chris
>>>> <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Install WhatsApp as most people and companies in those countries use it by
>>>>> default for most communication. It doesn't suffer from call costs so they
>>>>> can "call" you on your US no. for "free". It requires data, but most people
>>>>> have large/unlimited data caps.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, Whatsapp is fantastic.  Especially if you want to share part of
>>>> your trip with someone back home.  I gave 60 or 90 minute video tours of
>>>> a couple places where I was to a friend back home. She's seen more of a
>>>> couple obscure places than people who have actually been there. And it
>>>> was all free (I had plenty of data.)
>>>
>>> Otherwise, do not forget RCS. If your friends back home do not have
>>> whatsapp, they may have RCS; maybe they just need to activate it. If
>>> available, it is is also gratis.
>>
>> Seriously?!
>>
>>
> Of course.

:-D


-- 
"Roma locuta, causa finita." (Augustinus)

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#144850

On 2024-12-04 02:07, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
> On 03.12.24 22:54, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2024-12-03 22:24, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>>> On 03.12.24 20:19, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>> On 2024-12-03 19:16, micky wrote:
>>>>> In comp.mobile.android, on Tue, 3 Dec 2024 07:54:35 -0000 (UTC), Chris
>>>>> <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Install WhatsApp as most people and companies in those countries use it by
>>>>>> default for most communication. It doesn't suffer from call costs so they
>>>>>> can "call" you on your US no. for "free". It requires data, but most people
>>>>>> have large/unlimited data caps.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, Whatsapp is fantastic.  Especially if you want to share part of
>>>>> your trip with someone back home.  I gave 60 or 90 minute video tours of
>>>>> a couple places where I was to a friend back home. She's seen more of a
>>>>> couple obscure places than people who have actually been there. And it
>>>>> was all free (I had plenty of data.)
>>>>
>>>> Otherwise, do not forget RCS. If your friends back home do not have
>>>> whatsapp, they may have RCS; maybe they just need to activate it. If
>>>> available, it is is also gratis.
>>>
>>> Seriously?!
>>>
>>>
>> Of course.
> 
> :-D

Your bias against it is well known and can be duly ignored.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#144870

On 04.12.24 03:10, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2024-12-04 02:07, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>> :-D
> 
> Your bias against it is well known and can be duly ignored.

I have it active for years but I never received a "RCS". Market share
not materially different from zero. It is a dead horse in the times of
free messengers.


-- 
"Roma locuta, causa finita." (Augustinus)

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#144876

Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
> On 04.12.24 03:10, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> > On 2024-12-04 02:07, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
> >> :-D
> > 
> > Your bias against it is well known and can be duly ignored.
> 
> I have it active for years but I never received a "RCS". Market share
> not materially different from zero. It is a dead horse in the times of
> free messengers.

  Earth to Jörg: The "Two Questions" are from an *American* planning to
visit Europe. Put two and two together and maybe, just maybe, you'll
figure it out.

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#144879

On 2024-12-04 07:26, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
> On 04.12.24 03:10, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2024-12-04 02:07, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>>> :-D
>>
>> Your bias against it is well known and can be duly ignored.
> 
> I have it active for years but I never received a "RCS". Market share
> not materially different from zero. It is a dead horse in the times of
> free messengers.

You are not USAian.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#144883

On 04.12.24 12:58, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2024-12-04 07:26, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>> On 04.12.24 03:10, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>> On 2024-12-04 02:07, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>>>> :-D
>>>
>>> Your bias against it is well known and can be duly ignored.
>>
>> I have it active for years but I never received a "RCS". Market share
>> not materially different from zero. It is a dead horse in the times of
>> free messengers.
> 
> You are not USAian.

I'm in the USA quite often. This year in October and November. We have a
lot of friends and relatives there: Exactly the same. RCS is practically
non-existent. iMsg, Facebook Messenger and WhatsApp rule!


-- 
"De gustibus non est disputandum."

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#144884

On 04.12.24 12:58, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2024-12-04 07:26, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>> On 04.12.24 03:10, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>> On 2024-12-04 02:07, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>>>> :-D
>>>
>>> Your bias against it is well known and can be duly ignored.
>>
>> I have it active for years but I never received a "RCS". Market share
>> not materially different from zero. It is a dead horse in the times of
>> free messengers.
> 
> You are not USAian.

I know even better than the average US-cellphone-user because I use all
existing networks by roaming and I'm not stuck with one provider and in
addition with the exception of WA I use all messengers including
potentially RCS (there is a rumour that it also exists on iPhones in the
meantime but was never seen).


-- 
"De gustibus non est disputandum."

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#144887

On 12/4/2024 8:53 AM, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
> On 04.12.24 12:58, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2024-12-04 07:26, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>>> On 04.12.24 03:10, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>> On 2024-12-04 02:07, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>>>>> :-D
>>>>
>>>> Your bias against it is well known and can be duly ignored.
>>>
>>> I have it active for years but I never received a "RCS". Market share
>>> not materially different from zero. It is a dead horse in the times of
>>> free messengers.
>>
>> You are not USAian.
> 
> I know even better than the average US-cellphone-user because I use all
> existing networks by roaming and I'm not stuck with one provider and in
> addition with the exception of WA I use all messengers including
> potentially RCS (there is a rumour that it also exists on iPhones in the
> meantime but was never seen).

In the US on my iPhone when I send a text message to someone with an 
iphone the input field looks like the bottom portion of the image below 
and says it will be an "iMessage."  If one of the recipients has an 
android phone, it looks like the top one and says it will be "Text 
Message - RCS."

<https://i.postimg.cc/Gp4Fj4bJ/Messages.jpg>

-- 
I Stand With Israel!

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#145020

On 04.12.24 16:57, sticks wrote:
> If one of the recipients has an 
> android phone, it looks like the top one and says it will be "Text 
> Message - RCS."

One or the other. RCS is not Text Message.

-- 
"De gustibus non est disputandum."

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#145026

On 2024-12-07 08:57, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
> On 04.12.24 16:57, sticks wrote:
>> If one of the recipients has an
>> android phone, it looks like the top one and says it will be "Text
>> Message - RCS."
> 
> One or the other. RCS is not Text Message.
> 

It can be said it is. It is the next version of text messages.


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#145029

On 07.12.24 14:38, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2024-12-07 08:57, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>> On 04.12.24 16:57, sticks wrote:
>>> If one of the recipients has an
>>> android phone, it looks like the top one and says it will be "Text
>>> Message - RCS."
>>
>> One or the other. RCS is not Text Message.
>>
> 
> It can be said it is. It is the next version of text messages.

No it is not. Technically.


-- 
"Gutta cavat lapidem." (Ovid)

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#145092

In comp.mobile.android, on Sat, 7 Dec 2024 14:38:33 +0100, "Carlos E.R."
<robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

>On 2024-12-07 08:57, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>> On 04.12.24 16:57, sticks wrote:
>>> If one of the recipients has an
>>> android phone, it looks like the top one and says it will be "Text
>>> Message - RCS."
>> 
>> One or the other. RCS is not Text Message.
>> 
>
>It can be said it is. It is the next version of text messages.

Wikip: As of 2020, RCS has rolled out across 90 cell operators in 60
countries globally,[6] and has over 1 billion monthly active users as of
2023.[7] RCS can also be used anywhere without carrier support using
Google Messages on Android, where it is provided via their own Jibe
backend in place of a carrier's while still connected to the global RCS
network, and additionally offer end-to-end encryption....

Once a billion people have it and use it, almost everyone will soon
catch it. 

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