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Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting

Started byJoel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
First post2024-11-24 14:39 -0500
Last post2024-11-25 11:44 -0600
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  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 14:39 -0500
    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 12:21 -0800
      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-24 15:38 -0500
        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 12:54 -0800
        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 16:06 -0500
          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 13:48 -0800
            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-25 11:50 -0600
          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-24 18:20 -0500
            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 18:33 -0500
              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 16:09 -0800
                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 19:20 -0500
                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 16:23 -0800
                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 19:50 -0500
                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 17:09 -0800
                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 20:34 -0500
                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 17:44 -0800
                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 21:03 -0500
                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 18:17 -0800
                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 21:37 -0500
                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 18:42 -0800
                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 21:58 -0500
                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 18:59 -0800
                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 22:19 -0500
                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 19:32 -0800
                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-24 22:48 -0500
                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 19:52 -0800
                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 23:20 -0500
                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 23:46 -0800
                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-25 06:18 -0500
                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-26 14:29 -0800
                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-26 17:51 -0500
                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-26 15:12 -0800
                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-26 18:26 -0500
                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-27 10:59 -0600
                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-27 10:55 -0600
                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-27 11:31 -0800
                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-02 11:16 -0600
                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-02 14:09 -0500
                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-02 13:26 -0600
                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-02 14:55 -0500
                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-03 08:47 -0600
                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Pierre <pierrej@shaw.ca> - 2024-12-03 09:51 +0100
                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-27 10:50 -0600
                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-25 15:35 -0600
                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-25 15:33 -0600
                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2024-11-25 22:32 +0000
                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 23:15 -0500
                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 23:46 -0800
                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-25 07:08 -0500
                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-25 07:46 -0500
                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-25 08:43 -0500
                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-25 08:59 -0500
                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-25 10:32 -0500
                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-26 08:32 -0500
                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-26 09:58 -0500
                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-26 10:35 -0500
                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-26 11:13 -0500
                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-27 10:45 -0600
                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-27 12:01 -0500
                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-27 12:32 -0500
                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-27 12:45 -0600
                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-27 13:50 -0500
                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-27 14:19 -0500
                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-27 14:32 -0500
                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-27 15:05 -0500
                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-27 12:28 -0800
                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-27 15:54 -0500
                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-27 15:58 -0800
                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-02 11:25 -0600
                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-02 14:16 -0500
                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-02 13:41 -0600
                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-02 14:59 -0500
                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-03 09:09 -0600
                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-02 11:24 -0600
                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-02 13:49 -0500
                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-02 14:28 -0500
                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-02 16:11 -0500
                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-02 16:38 -0500
                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-03 08:58 -0600
                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-03 13:34 -0500
                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-04 10:55 -0600
                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-04 12:45 -0500
                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-04 09:59 -0800
                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-04 13:17 -0500
                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-04 13:01 -0600
                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-04 12:59 -0600
                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-03 14:03 -0500
                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-04 11:00 -0600
                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-27 16:26 -0500
                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-27 16:56 -0500
                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-02 11:27 -0600
                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-02 11:21 -0600
                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-02 14:13 -0500
                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-02 13:33 -0600
                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-02 14:56 -0500
                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-03 08:52 -0600
                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-27 11:32 -0800
                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-27 15:08 -0500
                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-27 12:32 -0800
                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-27 16:00 -0500
                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-27 16:00 -0800
                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-02 11:18 -0600
                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-02 14:10 -0500
                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-02 13:30 -0600
                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-27 10:37 -0600
                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-26 10:06 -0600
                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-26 10:03 -0600
                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-26 14:32 -0800
                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-26 17:54 -0500
                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-26 15:15 -0800
                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2024-11-27 00:04 +0000
                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-26 19:16 -0500
                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Yon Wane <"yonwane-lol!"@pac2.com> - 2024-11-26 22:27 -0800
                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-27 08:29 -0500
                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-27 11:18 -0600
                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting ppd382 <xyz@vote.com> - 2025-03-11 08:13 +0000
                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Mai Keister <m.keister@altopia.net> - 2025-03-11 13:59 -0700
                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "jubox@ovens.net" <jubox@ovens.net> - 2025-03-18 17:48 +0000
                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting orangeneck <orangeneck@127.0.0.1> - 2025-03-29 22:06 +0100
                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-25 15:42 -0600
                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-26 14:31 -0800
                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-26 17:53 -0500
                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-26 15:13 -0800
                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-26 18:28 -0500
                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-26 15:38 -0800
                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-26 18:58 -0500
                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-26 16:16 -0800
                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-26 19:42 -0500
                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-26 17:33 -0800
                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-26 20:48 -0500
                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-27 06:25 -0500
                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-27 11:17 -0600
                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-06 19:28 -0500
                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-07 13:18 -0500
                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-07 17:03 -0500
                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-07 14:17 -0800
                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-07 17:39 -0500
                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-07 15:40 -0800
                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-07 18:53 -0500
                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-07 16:01 -0800
                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-07 19:19 -0500
                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-07 16:45 -0800
                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-07 20:14 -0500
                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-07 17:31 -0800
                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-07 20:43 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-07 17:48 -0800
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                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-07 20:58 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-09 10:00 -0600
                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-09 09:59 -0600
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                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-09 09:48 -0600
                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-09 09:38 -0600
                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-09 09:36 -0600
                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-09 09:48 -0800
                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-09 12:55 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-09 10:01 -0800
                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-09 13:13 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-09 10:24 -0800
                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-09 13:56 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-09 10:57 -0800
                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-10 08:56 -0600
                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-09 14:02 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-09 11:21 -0800
                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-09 14:29 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-09 11:33 -0800
                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-10 09:02 -0600
                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Wayne Kerr <waynek@msu.edu> - 2024-12-14 21:50 +0100
                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-14 13:17 -0800
                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-10 09:01 -0600
                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Wayne Kerr <waynek@msu.edu> - 2024-12-14 21:14 +0100
                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-14 13:17 -0800
                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-14 16:21 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-14 13:34 -0800
                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-14 17:09 -0500
                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-14 14:25 -0800
                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-14 17:32 -0500
                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-14 14:41 -0800
                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-14 17:51 -0500
                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-14 15:04 -0800
                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-15 05:56 -0500
                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-15 09:24 -0800
                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-15 13:30 -0500
                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 11:38 -0800
                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 15:05 -0500
                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 12:26 -0800
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 15:58 -0500
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 13:10 -0800
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 18:07 -0500
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-16 19:56 -0500
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 10:39 -0500
                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 10:30 -0800
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 10:16 -0800
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 13:20 -0500
                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 10:33 -0800
                                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 13:43 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 10:51 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 14:52 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 12:35 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-17 15:39 -0500
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 12:53 -0600
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                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-15 15:42 -0500
                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-15 15:48 -0500
                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-15 16:47 -0500
                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-15 17:01 -0500
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-15 22:34 -0500
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 10:25 -0500
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-16 11:40 -0500
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 12:02 -0500
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-16 12:50 -0500
                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 12:54 -0500
                                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 11:08 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 14:13 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 11:31 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 14:36 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 11:47 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 15:22 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 12:37 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 16:09 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 13:13 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 18:18 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 10:25 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 13:39 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 10:45 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 14:50 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 12:35 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-17 15:45 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 12:02 -0600
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                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 11:56 -0600
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                                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 11:48 -0600
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                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 11:13 -0800
                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 14:35 -0500
                                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 11:45 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 15:20 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 12:37 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 16:10 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 13:14 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 18:20 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 10:25 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 13:41 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 10:46 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 14:51 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 12:36 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 16:09 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-17 16:34 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 19:19 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 16:22 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 20:26 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 18:21 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-18 09:03 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-18 09:24 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-18 13:01 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-18 10:36 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-18 14:03 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 12:41 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting will <willford@yahoo.com> - 2024-12-21 01:50 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-20 17:01 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-20 20:19 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-20 17:42 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-20 20:50 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-20 17:53 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-20 21:57 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-20 19:06 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-20 22:17 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-21 10:10 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-21 16:10 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 12:43 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-20 22:05 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-20 22:15 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-20 23:31 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-21 08:44 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-21 10:11 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-21 16:13 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Din004 <din004@oracle.com> - 2024-12-25 10:44 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-25 09:26 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-25 11:55 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2024-12-26 02:07 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-25 23:07 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting alex <alex_@pintrest.com> - 2024-12-26 00:44 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-26 09:39 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Jon Ball <jon-ball@spectrum.com> - 2024-12-26 22:09 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-26 13:37 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting wasabi <lotso@jollyroger.com> - 2024-12-28 14:33 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-28 14:36 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 17:43 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-28 14:47 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 17:55 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-28 15:55 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 19:00 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-28 16:02 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 20:30 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-28 19:02 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 22:07 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-28 19:42 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 22:48 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-28 19:53 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 23:04 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-28 20:07 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 23:16 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-28 21:53 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 14:09 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 11:21 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 14:34 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 11:37 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 14:47 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 12:15 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 15:22 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 12:42 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 16:08 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 16:40 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 19:59 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 17:10 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Jack Sovalot <hee-cawkforme@jack.sovalot> - 2024-12-30 04:09 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Red Zone <redzone@trump.com> - 2024-12-30 19:45 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-30 14:57 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-30 12:05 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-30 15:27 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2024-12-30 21:25 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2024-12-31 00:54 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-31 06:38 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Jack Sovalot <hee-cawkforme@jack.sovalot> - 2024-12-30 16:59 -0500
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 12:56 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 16:13 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 16:42 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 20:00 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 17:10 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 21:46 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 18:52 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 22:09 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 19:22 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 22:27 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 19:39 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-30 10:59 -0500
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Petry F." <petry_f@hushmail.com> - 2024-12-29 04:25 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-28 21:54 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-30 10:42 -0500
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-28 21:52 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2024-12-30 18:23 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-30 10:30 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-30 13:42 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-30 11:23 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-30 14:55 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-30 11:58 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-30 15:25 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-30 15:01 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-30 18:07 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-30 15:19 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-30 18:41 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-30 15:43 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-31 06:30 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-31 06:28 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-31 06:27 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-30 12:04 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-30 15:26 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-30 15:13 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-30 18:23 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-30 15:40 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-30 19:14 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-30 23:04 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-31 11:52 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Byrd <byrd@someoem.com> - 2025-01-02 03:02 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-01 21:08 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-01 18:44 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-01 22:01 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-01 22:12 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Rudy Ball <rudyball@gmx.com> - 2025-01-03 19:02 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-03 11:20 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-03 15:19 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-03 14:54 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-03 18:40 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-03 16:18 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-03 19:28 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-03 17:11 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-03 20:24 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-03 17:40 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-03 20:59 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-03 19:39 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 14:29 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-05 12:36 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 20:53 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-05 18:19 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 21:29 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-05 18:32 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 21:47 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-05 19:03 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 22:14 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-05 19:39 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 22:50 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-05 23:32 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2025-01-06 08:11 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Clint <clintb@infiniti.net> - 2025-01-13 00:36 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-13 09:16 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2025-01-06 08:11 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Rudy Johnson <rudyj@google.com> - 2025-01-21 14:06 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-21 14:18 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Sadler <sadler@msn.com> - 2025-01-26 06:28 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Rudy Canoza <rudy@phil.hendrie.con> - 2025-01-22 03:46 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2025-01-06 08:10 -0500
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting AlphaHeater <AlphaHeater21@6959.concepte.store> - 2025-01-06 02:50 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2025-01-06 08:07 -0500
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-31 06:34 -0500
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-31 06:25 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-01 07:31 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-28 21:50 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2024-12-29 01:30 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-28 21:49 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting wasabi <lotso@jollyroger.com> - 2024-12-28 15:57 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-28 16:03 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-26 08:39 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-25 19:24 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-26 11:05 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting ND beat Indy <choke@choke.choke> - 2024-12-20 21:37 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-21 09:35 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-20 20:17 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-20 17:18 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-20 20:30 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 12:41 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 12:39 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 12:37 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Gary M. Stewart <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2024-12-25 21:48 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 12:36 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 12:34 -0600
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                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 14:06 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 12:29 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 12:28 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 12:27 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 12:25 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 12:23 -0600
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                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 12:19 -0600
                                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 12:18 -0600
                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 12:16 -0600
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 11:42 -0800
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 15:16 -0500
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 12:33 -0800
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 16:04 -0500
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 13:13 -0800
                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 18:18 -0500
                                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 10:20 -0800
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-16 16:29 -0500
                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 17:53 -0500
                                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-16 19:51 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 10:38 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 10:29 -0800
                                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 10:18 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 13:23 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 10:31 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 13:20 -0600
                                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 13:15 -0600
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 13:14 -0600
                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 11:40 -0800
                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 15:08 -0500
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 12:29 -0800
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 16:01 -0500
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 13:30 -0800
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 18:24 -0500
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-16 21:11 -0500
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 10:28 -0800
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 13:11 -0600
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 13:09 -0600
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 13:03 -0600
                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 13:02 -0600
                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting hank <none@invalid.org> - 2024-12-16 00:02 +0100
                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 09:06 -0800
                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-14 18:21 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting hank <none@invalid.org> - 2024-12-15 23:06 +0100
                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-15 15:41 -0800
                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Duc Nguyen <dnguyen@somecorp.org> - 2024-12-15 19:10 -0800
                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-15 22:50 -0500
                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-15 22:42 -0800
                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-15 22:35 -0500
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                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-12-07 23:59 +0000
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                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Rudy Canoza <rc@thejollykone.con> - 2024-12-08 04:06 -0500
                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-09 10:02 -0600
                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting T. Walz <tampons4sale@dont-email.me> - 2024-12-08 12:41 +0100
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                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-09 09:28 -0600
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                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-09 13:46 -0500
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                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-25 15:31 -0600
                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-24 22:41 -0500
                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 23:13 -0500
                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 23:47 -0800
                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-25 06:59 -0500
                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-25 07:44 -0500
                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-25 08:18 -0500
                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-25 08:35 -0500
                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-25 08:58 -0500
                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-25 09:09 -0500
                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-25 10:40 -0500
                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-26 08:35 -0500
                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-26 09:59 -0500
                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-26 10:44 -0500
                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-27 10:48 -0600
                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-25 15:49 -0600
                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-25 15:47 -0600
                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-26 16:16 -0800
                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-26 19:46 -0500
                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-27 11:20 -0600
                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-25 15:28 -0600
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                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-25 15:24 -0600
              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-24 22:40 -0500
              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-25 12:37 -0600
          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-25 11:49 -0600
            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-26 14:38 -0800
              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-27 10:23 -0600
      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 16:00 -0500
        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 13:49 -0800
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#144889

From"Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net>
Date2024-12-04 10:55 -0600
Message-ID<viq3be$10kkc$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#144831

"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:bjjukjhh88n37s5oc5jj9c3mmkhfibbf7a@4ax.com...
> "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>
>>> I
>>> could have used that [SSD] drive with SATA 3 in the new machine,
>>
>>Then you wouldn't have even been out of your investment when you upgraded
>>your motherboard.
>>
>>> but I
>>> wanted to spend the measly $110 for a quality NVMe, unlike with Apple
>>> it was a modest component.
>>
>>Well, you do seem to love wasting money.
>
>
> I kept investing in the old computer as a second machine, which was
> reasonable given my new one had Windows for 2 1/2 years.

Thus I prove my point.
 

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#144891

FromJoel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2024-12-04 12:45 -0500
Message-ID<d851ljlvn33qt9ra4r1gli8hskuil47gon@4ax.com>
In reply to#144889
"Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:

>>>> I
>>>> could have used that [SSD] drive with SATA 3 in the new machine,
>>>
>>>Then you wouldn't have even been out of your investment when you upgraded
>>>your motherboard.
>>>
>>>> but I
>>>> wanted to spend the measly $110 for a quality NVMe, unlike with Apple
>>>> it was a modest component.
>>>
>>>Well, you do seem to love wasting money.
>>
>> I kept investing in the old computer as a second machine, which was
>> reasonable given my new one had Windows for 2 1/2 years.
>
>Thus I prove my point.


Using the SATA SSD merely because I possessed it would have been an
error.  The NVMe drive pays for itself, in use.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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#144892

FromAlan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date2024-12-04 09:59 -0800
Message-ID<viq5an$10eql$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#144891
On 2024-12-04 09:45, Joel wrote:
> "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
> 
>>>>> I
>>>>> could have used that [SSD] drive with SATA 3 in the new machine,
>>>>
>>>> Then you wouldn't have even been out of your investment when you upgraded
>>>> your motherboard.
>>>>
>>>>> but I
>>>>> wanted to spend the measly $110 for a quality NVMe, unlike with Apple
>>>>> it was a modest component.
>>>>
>>>> Well, you do seem to love wasting money.
>>>
>>> I kept investing in the old computer as a second machine, which was
>>> reasonable given my new one had Windows for 2 1/2 years.
>>
>> Thus I prove my point.
> 
> 
> Using the SATA SSD merely because I possessed it would have been an
> error.  The NVMe drive pays for itself, in use.
And yet you're the one who said that saving a few seconds wasn't important?

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#144893

FromJoel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2024-12-04 13:17 -0500
Message-ID<r271ljthovfs2d4vlm1q61eeo9j9h16su8@4ax.com>
In reply to#144892
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

>> Using the SATA SSD merely because I possessed it would have been an
>> error.  The NVMe drive pays for itself, in use.
>
>And yet you're the one who said that saving a few seconds wasn't important?


It's not a few seconds, it's many seconds, it's your main storage. I'm
definitely leaving that SATA drive to my old computer, to make it
useful.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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#144902

From"Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net>
Date2024-12-04 13:01 -0600
Message-ID<viq93f$122v7$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#144893

"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:r271ljthovfs2d4vlm1q61eeo9j9h16su8@4ax.com...
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>>> Using the SATA SSD merely because I possessed it would have been an
>>> error.  The NVMe drive pays for itself, in use.
>>
>>And yet you're the one who said that saving a few seconds wasn't 
>>important?
>
>
> It's not a few seconds, it's many seconds, it's your main storage. I'm
> definitely leaving that SATA drive to my old computer, to make it
> useful.

Wow.. you are actually transferring so much data that it would take "many 
seconds".. then how can your little NVMe provide adequate storage?

 

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#144901

From"Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net>
Date2024-12-04 12:59 -0600
Message-ID<viq93c$122v7$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#144891

"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:d851ljlvn33qt9ra4r1gli8hskuil47gon@4ax.com...
> "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>
>>>>> I
>>>>> could have used that [SSD] drive with SATA 3 in the new machine,
>>>>
>>>>Then you wouldn't have even been out of your investment when you 
>>>>upgraded
>>>>your motherboard.
>>>>
>>>>> but I
>>>>> wanted to spend the measly $110 for a quality NVMe, unlike with Apple
>>>>> it was a modest component.
>>>>
>>>>Well, you do seem to love wasting money.
>>>
>>> I kept investing in the old computer as a second machine, which was
>>> reasonable given my new one had Windows for 2 1/2 years.
>>
>>Thus I prove my point.
>
>
> Using the SATA SSD merely because I possessed it would have been an
> error.  The NVMe drive pays for itself, in use.

Yea, but apparently you have a habit of paying hardware you haven't shown a 
need for.. video card.. memory.. so why not a hard drive?
After all, I'm pretty sure there is nothing you do with the hardware you 
have in which the performance difference between an SSD and a NVMe really 
has that much of an impact to justify the expense of yet another drive. 
Indeed, given how much you complain about what you assert is the Apple's 
lack of storage I would think a larger if marginally slower drive would be 
much more advantageous to you. But then you have shown a propensity towards 
buying that which you really don't need.

 

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#144835

From-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
Date2024-12-03 14:03 -0500
Message-ID<vinkmg$58d9$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#144815
On 12/3/24 9:58 AM, Scout wrote:
> 
> 
> "Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message 
> news:ff2skjteoife8dvrhueila7vc7rt9vbpo4@4ax.com...
>> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>>
>>> we hear Joel say that they moved an existing 1TB
>>> NVMe from their old PC to their new PC 2-3 years ago now
>>
>>
>> That's not what I said, and is in fact indicative you are either
>> really bad at tracking time or bad at math.  How the fuck would a
>> computer from 2010, even one as nice as that one was when new, have
>> NVMe support?
> 
> Well someone as 'elite' as you would probably have a PCI adaptor card.

That's what I did back in 2012.  Way back in that era, it benchmarked to 
600MB/sec Read, 300MB/sec Write.


>>  It didn't even have SATA 3 with its SSD or HDDs.
> 
> Really? You had a year since it was released. Are you telling us you 
> could find no motherboards with SATA3?

Even if he had, a HDD on SATA-3 wasn't able to saturate the interface to 
get anywhere close to its theoretical 600MB/sec limit. SSDs do better, 
but due to the interface's overhead, its effective limit is 550 MB/sec. 
Moving to NVMe directly on PCIe is better still (4x4: ~5000 MB/sec), but 
we've still not seen benchmark data from Joel.  Plus...

>> I could have used that drive with SATA 3 in the new machine,
> 
> Then you wouldn't have even been out of your investment when you 
> upgraded your motherboard.
> 
>> but I wanted to spend the measly $110 for a quality NVMe, unlike 
>> with Apple it was a modest component.
> 
> Well, you do seem to love wasting money.

...there's nothing wrong with pursuing the Price:Performance sweet spot 
of State of the Shelf, but doing so doesn't make it a "high end" system 
to brag about if its trying to compare current tech to 2010 tech: stuff 
*of course* got better, particularly for the State of the Shelf.

High end today starts at at least PCI4, USB 3.2 Gen 2x2, or Thunderbolt 
3 (20 Gb/s), but stepping up today really means to PCIe 5 or TB4 to have 
double that bandwidth, and to TB5 for another doubling.  These are all 
just IT applications of the old racing motto: "Speed costs money. How 
fast can you afford to go?", and unless your workflow materially 
benefits from it, it is wasted money on mere bragging rights.


-hh

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#144890

From"Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net>
Date2024-12-04 11:00 -0600
Message-ID<viq3be$10kkc$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#144835

"-hh" <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote in message 
news:vinkmg$58d9$1@dont-email.me...
> On 12/3/24 9:58 AM, Scout wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message 
>> news:ff2skjteoife8dvrhueila7vc7rt9vbpo4@4ax.com...
>>> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> we hear Joel say that they moved an existing 1TB
>>>> NVMe from their old PC to their new PC 2-3 years ago now
>>>
>>>
>>> That's not what I said, and is in fact indicative you are either
>>> really bad at tracking time or bad at math.  How the fuck would a
>>> computer from 2010, even one as nice as that one was when new, have
>>> NVMe support?
>>
>> Well someone as 'elite' as you would probably have a PCI adaptor card.
>
> That's what I did back in 2012.  Way back in that era, it benchmarked to 
> 600MB/sec Read, 300MB/sec Write.
>
>
>>>  It didn't even have SATA 3 with its SSD or HDDs.
>>
>> Really? You had a year since it was released. Are you telling us you 
>> could find no motherboards with SATA3?
>
> Even if he had, a HDD on SATA-3 wasn't able to saturate the interface to 
> get anywhere close to its theoretical 600MB/sec limit. SSDs do better, but 
> due to the interface's overhead, its effective limit is 550 MB/sec. Moving 
> to NVMe directly on PCIe is better still (4x4: ~5000 MB/sec), but we've 
> still not seen benchmark data from Joel.  Plus...
>
>>> I could have used that drive with SATA 3 in the new machine,
>>
>> Then you wouldn't have even been out of your investment when you upgraded 
>> your motherboard.
>>
>>> but I wanted to spend the measly $110 for a quality NVMe, unlike with 
>>> Apple it was a modest component.
>>
>> Well, you do seem to love wasting money.
>
> ...there's nothing wrong with pursuing the Price:Performance sweet spot of 
> State of the Shelf, but doing so doesn't make it a "high end" system to 
> brag about if its trying to compare current tech to 2010 tech: stuff *of 
> course* got better, particularly for the State of the Shelf.
>
> High end today starts at at least PCI4, USB 3.2 Gen 2x2, or Thunderbolt 3 
> (20 Gb/s), but stepping up today really means to PCIe 5 or TB4 to have 
> double that bandwidth, and to TB5 for another doubling.  These are all 
> just IT applications of the old racing motto: "Speed costs money. How fast 
> can you afford to go?", and unless your workflow materially benefits from 
> it, it is wasted money on mere bragging rights.

Bingo.

Besides, I doubt he has the technical knowledge to match hardware to 
actually obtain such performance. Odds are he would include at least one 
component that would drag the numbers way down.

 

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#144617

From-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
Date2024-11-27 16:26 -0500
Message-ID<vi82r1$3slt$5@dont-email.me>
In reply to#144594
On 11/27/24 3:05 PM, Joel wrote:
> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
> 
>>>>> The CPU's video is incidental to having a CPU.  The NVIDIA card is an
>>>>> add-on that was something I'd considered as a possibility all along.
>>>>> WTF are you harping on that for?
>>>>
>>>> It would be incidental if you hadn't ended up paying twice for video.
>>>
>>> Uh, I didn't.  The NVIDIA card is the only card I've put in, in the
>>> lifetime of the machine.
>>
>> Incorrect:  your first video controller was the one that came integrated
>> into your i5 (the "F" version is cheaper & comes without) which you paid
>> for.  That makes the NVIDIA card you bought later the second one.
> 
> 
> ???  Are you on acid?  I didn't even consider buying a different
> version of the CPU.  Never even occurred to me in any respect. 

The "expert" failed in doing his basic research?  Actually, it is as I 
noted quite understandable, as per Schwartz's "Paradox of Choice".

> I had seen a Linux OEM offering a prefab machine with the i5-10400,
> and began the process of designing my box with that chip, not even
> realizing there was a non-video-containing version.

Its common knowledge that CPUs are equipped with (& without) integrated 
graphics for years now amongst the experts & geeks.  Counts you out.

>>>>>>> M$ is not in the consumer's interest.  Linux is.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With a ~65% market share, how is MS not clearly consumers' #1 choice?
>>>>>
>>>>> It goes to show how much they know.
>>>>
>>>> The combined knowledge of three people is more than what you know...
>>>
>>> Doubtful, I'm an expert, having used and observed the hardware and
>>> software in recent years.
>>
>> Not in this you're not, for you've shown us that you've spent 30% more
>> (that we know of) than you had to for your capability.
> 
> 
> I got a great deal, period.

Well, if you _really_ want to call it that, then many other people got 
*FABULOUS!* deals compared to yours, including many Apple customers.

-hh

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#144620

FromJoel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2024-11-27 16:56 -0500
Message-ID<d75fkjd4oulgthbpujn2rep85g5bfkc5tl@4ax.com>
In reply to#144617
-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

>>>>>> The CPU's video is incidental to having a CPU.  The NVIDIA card is an
>>>>>> add-on that was something I'd considered as a possibility all along.
>>>>>> WTF are you harping on that for?
>>>>>
>>>>> It would be incidental if you hadn't ended up paying twice for video.
>>>>
>>>> Uh, I didn't.  The NVIDIA card is the only card I've put in, in the
>>>> lifetime of the machine.
>>>
>>> Incorrect:  your first video controller was the one that came integrated
>>> into your i5 (the "F" version is cheaper & comes without) which you paid
>>> for.  That makes the NVIDIA card you bought later the second one.
>> 
>> ???  Are you on acid?  I didn't even consider buying a different
>> version of the CPU.  Never even occurred to me in any respect. 
>
>The "expert" failed in doing his basic research?  Actually, it is as I 
>noted quite understandable, as per Schwartz's "Paradox of Choice".
>
>> I had seen a Linux OEM offering a prefab machine with the i5-10400,
>> and began the process of designing my box with that chip, not even
>> realizing there was a non-video-containing version.
>
>Its common knowledge that CPUs are equipped with (& without) integrated 
>graphics for years now amongst the experts & geeks.  Counts you out.


I *wanted* the CPU's video *initially*, but *knew* it might not be a
permanent thing.  The 4K screen turned out to be *why*, but there were
other potential reasons, including wanting a second display.


>>>>>>>> M$ is not in the consumer's interest.  Linux is.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> With a ~65% market share, how is MS not clearly consumers' #1 choice?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It goes to show how much they know.
>>>>>
>>>>> The combined knowledge of three people is more than what you know...
>>>>
>>>> Doubtful, I'm an expert, having used and observed the hardware and
>>>> software in recent years.
>>>
>>> Not in this you're not, for you've shown us that you've spent 30% more
>>> (that we know of) than you had to for your capability.
>> 
>> I got a great deal, period.
>
>Well, if you _really_ want to call it that, then many other people got 
>*FABULOUS!* deals compared to yours, including many Apple customers.


Apple customers who are cool with 128 GB SSDs (now 256!!!  heh) are
welcome to feel they got a good deal.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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#144749

From"Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net>
Date2024-12-02 11:27 -0600
Message-ID<viktk6$3g7r2$11@dont-email.me>
In reply to#144620

"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:d75fkjd4oulgthbpujn2rep85g5bfkc5tl@4ax.com...
> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>>> The CPU's video is incidental to having a CPU.  The NVIDIA card is 
>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>> add-on that was something I'd considered as a possibility all along.
>>>>>>> WTF are you harping on that for?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It would be incidental if you hadn't ended up paying twice for video.
>>>>>
>>>>> Uh, I didn't.  The NVIDIA card is the only card I've put in, in the
>>>>> lifetime of the machine.
>>>>
>>>> Incorrect:  your first video controller was the one that came 
>>>> integrated
>>>> into your i5 (the "F" version is cheaper & comes without) which you 
>>>> paid
>>>> for.  That makes the NVIDIA card you bought later the second one.
>>>
>>> ???  Are you on acid?  I didn't even consider buying a different
>>> version of the CPU.  Never even occurred to me in any respect.
>>
>>The "expert" failed in doing his basic research?  Actually, it is as I
>>noted quite understandable, as per Schwartz's "Paradox of Choice".
>>
>>> I had seen a Linux OEM offering a prefab machine with the i5-10400,
>>> and began the process of designing my box with that chip, not even
>>> realizing there was a non-video-containing version.
>>
>>Its common knowledge that CPUs are equipped with (& without) integrated
>>graphics for years now amongst the experts & geeks.  Counts you out.
>
>
> I *wanted* the CPU's video *initially*, but *knew* it might not be a
> permanent thing.  The 4K screen turned out to be *why*, but there were
> other potential reasons, including wanting a second display.

So you paid extra for something even knowing that it might well become 
useless to your needs because you were building such an awesome system.

... expert at excuses, you are.



>>>>>>>>> M$ is not in the consumer's interest.  Linux is.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> With a ~65% market share, how is MS not clearly consumers' #1 
>>>>>>>> choice?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It goes to show how much they know.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The combined knowledge of three people is more than what you know...
>>>>>
>>>>> Doubtful, I'm an expert, having used and observed the hardware and
>>>>> software in recent years.
>>>>
>>>> Not in this you're not, for you've shown us that you've spent 30% more
>>>> (that we know of) than you had to for your capability.
>>>
>>> I got a great deal, period.
>>
>>Well, if you _really_ want to call it that, then many other people got
>>*FABULOUS!* deals compared to yours, including many Apple customers.
>
>
> Apple customers who are cool with 128 GB SSDs (now 256!!!  heh) are
> welcome to feel they got a good deal.

They did.. compared to the moderate system you finally put together for a 
whole lot more.

 

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#144746

From"Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net>
Date2024-12-02 11:21 -0600
Message-ID<viktk3$3g7r2$8@dont-email.me>
In reply to#144594

"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:enuekj17nd4h75dqpejg8d5rbntjet1rrv@4ax.com...
> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>
>>>>> The CPU's video is incidental to having a CPU.  The NVIDIA card is an
>>>>> add-on that was something I'd considered as a possibility all along.
>>>>> WTF are you harping on that for?
>>>>
>>>> It would be incidental if you hadn't ended up paying twice for video.
>>>
>>> Uh, I didn't.  The NVIDIA card is the only card I've put in, in the
>>> lifetime of the machine.
>>
>>Incorrect:  your first video controller was the one that came integrated
>>into your i5 (the "F" version is cheaper & comes without) which you paid
>>for.  That makes the NVIDIA card you bought later the second one.
>
>
> ???  Are you on acid?  I didn't even consider buying a different
> version of the CPU.

So much for your claims of being 'elite'...

>  Never even occurred to me in any respect.

Your lack of knowledge is accepted.

>  I had
> seen a Linux OEM offering a prefab machine with the i5-10400, and
> began the process of designing my box with that chip, not even
> realizing there was a non-video-containing version.

Your admission of ignorance is also seen.

>>>>>>> M$ is not in the consumer's interest.  Linux is.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With a ~65% market share, how is MS not clearly consumers' #1 choice?
>>>>>
>>>>> It goes to show how much they know.
>>>>
>>>> The combined knowledge of three people is more than what you know...
>>>
>>> Doubtful, I'm an expert, having used and observed the hardware and
>>> software in recent years.
>>
>>Not in this you're not, for you've shown us that you've spent 30% more
>>(that we know of) than you had to for your capability.
>
>
> I got a great deal, period.

Clearly you did not. I have far better hardware and spent a fraction of what 
you paid.

 

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#144756

FromJoel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2024-12-02 14:13 -0500
Message-ID<gj1skjtb4veid5rqtmbi4k8hd645ps62hf@4ax.com>
In reply to#144746
"Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:

>X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8117.416
>
>"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message 
>news:enuekj17nd4h75dqpejg8d5rbntjet1rrv@4ax.com...
>
>>  I had
>> seen a Linux OEM offering a prefab machine with the i5-10400, and
>> began the process of designing my box with that chip, not even
>> realizing there was a non-video-containing version.
>
>Your admission of ignorance is also seen.


It was irrelevant.  I wanted the standard 10400.


>> I got a great deal, period.
>
>Clearly you did not. I have far better hardware and spent a fraction of what 
>you paid.


You're running Windows 7, dipshit.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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#144763

From"Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net>
Date2024-12-02 13:33 -0600
Message-ID<vil2na$3hi7c$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#144756

"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:gj1skjtb4veid5rqtmbi4k8hd645ps62hf@4ax.com...
> "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>
>>X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8117.416
>>
>>"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:enuekj17nd4h75dqpejg8d5rbntjet1rrv@4ax.com...
>>
>>>  I had
>>> seen a Linux OEM offering a prefab machine with the i5-10400, and
>>> began the process of designing my box with that chip, not even
>>> realizing there was a non-video-containing version.
>>
>>Your admission of ignorance is also seen.
>
>
> It was irrelevant.

Clearly it was relevant since by your own admission you got it for the 
integrated graphics.

>  I wanted the standard 10400.

And yet, you found it to be inadequate for your needs.


>>> I got a great deal, period.
>>
>>Clearly you did not. I have far better hardware and spent a fraction of 
>>what
>>you paid.
>
>
> You're running Windows 7, dipshit.

Which has WHAT to do with my hardware capabilities?

Oh, let me guess you don't know the difference between hardware and 
software.

 

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#144766

FromJoel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2024-12-02 14:56 -0500
Message-ID<j64skj9n9kbv1jmobvdu2umk2fj97qdqcl@4ax.com>
In reply to#144763
"Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:

>>>> I got a great deal, period.
>>>
>>>Clearly you did not. I have far better hardware and spent a fraction of 
>>>what
>>>you paid.
>>
>> You're running Windows 7, dipshit.
>
>Which has WHAT to do with my hardware capabilities?
>
>Oh, let me guess you don't know the difference between hardware and 
>software.


If you wanted a sleek OS like Win7, relative to modern hardware
comparable to mine, you'd run Linux.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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#144814

From"Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net>
Date2024-12-03 08:52 -0600
Message-ID<vin87o$55a0$5@dont-email.me>
In reply to#144766

"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:j64skj9n9kbv1jmobvdu2umk2fj97qdqcl@4ax.com...
> "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>
>>>>> I got a great deal, period.
>>>>
>>>>Clearly you did not. I have far better hardware and spent a fraction of
>>>>what
>>>>you paid.
>>>
>>> You're running Windows 7, dipshit.
>>
>>Which has WHAT to do with my hardware capabilities?
>>
>>Oh, let me guess you don't know the difference between hardware and
>>software.
>
>
> If you wanted a sleek OS like Win7, relative to modern hardware
> comparable to mine, you'd run Linux.

Well, I have a sleek OS like Win7 running on modern hardware that is 
superior to yours.

Why would I want to downgrade to Linux?

I mean, hell, you couldn't even get it to support a 4k monitor without a 
hardware upgrade.

 

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#144591

FromAlan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date2024-11-27 11:32 -0800
Message-ID<vi7s4c$3tpm$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#144587
On 2024-11-27 11:19, Joel wrote:
> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
> 
>>>>> I bought good stuff relative to when I bought it and my needs.
>>>>
>>>> Except for how you claimed to have promptly had to upgrade your video,
>>>> showing that you didn't really buy "good" stuff:  you bought marginal
>>>> gear which per your claim didn't even support 'state of the shelf'.
>>>
>>> The CPU's video is incidental to having a CPU.  The NVIDIA card is an
>>> add-on that was something I'd considered as a possibility all along.
>>> WTF are you harping on that for?
>>
>> It would be incidental if you hadn't ended up paying twice for video.
> 
> 
> Uh, I didn't.  The NVIDIA card is the only card I've put in, in the
> lifetime of the machine.

Uh, you did.

You paid once for a CPU with an integrated GPU...

...then paid again for a separate card when the "expert" couldn't figure 
out how to make his integrated GPU work with a 4K monitor.

> 
> 
>>>>> M$ is not in the consumer's interest.  Linux is.
>>>>
>>>> With a ~65% market share, how is MS not clearly consumers' #1 choice?
>>>
>>> It goes to show how much they know.
>>
>> The combined knowledge of three people is more than what you know...
> 
> 
> Doubtful, I'm an expert, having used and observed the hardware and
> software in recent years.
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#144595

FromJoel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2024-11-27 15:08 -0500
Message-ID<gsuekjpe00vjsumkt9ndbclbkucd3tn7ie@4ax.com>
In reply to#144591
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>On 2024-11-27 11:19, Joel wrote:
>> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>> 
>>>> The CPU's video is incidental to having a CPU.  The NVIDIA card is an
>>>> add-on that was something I'd considered as a possibility all along.
>>>> WTF are you harping on that for?
>>>
>>> It would be incidental if you hadn't ended up paying twice for video.
>> 
>> Uh, I didn't.  The NVIDIA card is the only card I've put in, in the
>> lifetime of the machine.
>
>Uh, you did.
>
>You paid once for a CPU with an integrated GPU...


So what?


>...then paid again for a separate card when the "expert" couldn't figure 
>out how to make his integrated GPU work with a 4K monitor.


It's not that it didn't work *at all*, it had erroneous results that
were intolerable.  Misaligned windows, etc.


>>>>>> M$ is not in the consumer's interest.  Linux is.
>>>>>
>>>>> With a ~65% market share, how is MS not clearly consumers' #1 choice?
>>>>
>>>> It goes to show how much they know.
>>>
>>> The combined knowledge of three people is more than what you know...
>> 
>> Doubtful, I'm an expert, having used and observed the hardware and
>> software in recent years.
>????????????????????????????????????


It's true, I've seen the evolution of Win10, and of Win11 up to 23H2/
Copilot.  But future iterations, I will not be an expert on M$ OSes,
because I'll be using Linux from the beginning, on new devices I may
obtain.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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#144602

FromAlan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date2024-11-27 12:32 -0800
Message-ID<vi7vkb$5e7n$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#144595
On 2024-11-27 12:08, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>> On 2024-11-27 11:19, Joel wrote:
>>> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> The CPU's video is incidental to having a CPU.  The NVIDIA card is an
>>>>> add-on that was something I'd considered as a possibility all along.
>>>>> WTF are you harping on that for?
>>>>
>>>> It would be incidental if you hadn't ended up paying twice for video.
>>>
>>> Uh, I didn't.  The NVIDIA card is the only card I've put in, in the
>>> lifetime of the machine.
>>
>> Uh, you did.
>>
>> You paid once for a CPU with an integrated GPU...
> 
> 
> So what?
> 
> 
>> ...then paid again for a separate card when the "expert" couldn't figure
>> out how to make his integrated GPU work with a 4K monitor.
> 
> 
> It's not that it didn't work *at all*, it had erroneous results that
> were intolerable.  Misaligned windows, etc.

That would be "didn't work".

I guess your "expertise" isn't worth much, huh?

> 
> 
>>>>>>> M$ is not in the consumer's interest.  Linux is.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With a ~65% market share, how is MS not clearly consumers' #1 choice?
>>>>>
>>>>> It goes to show how much they know.
>>>>
>>>> The combined knowledge of three people is more than what you know...
>>>
>>> Doubtful, I'm an expert, having used and observed the hardware and
>>> software in recent years.
>> ????????????????????????????????????
> 
> 
> It's true, I've seen the evolution of Win10, and of Win11 up to 23H2/
> Copilot.  But future iterations, I will not be an expert on M$ OSes,
> because I'll be using Linux from the beginning, on new devices I may
> obtain.
"Seen the evolution of" does not mean "expert".

I've "seen the evolution of" the airplane from the first fighter jets I 
saw as a kid (F-101 Voodoos) to the current stealth F22, etc.

Doesn't make me an expert.

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#144609

FromJoel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2024-11-27 16:00 -0500
Message-ID<mr1fkjh3d76sqdjetmu7k3kcg2lqhfd199@4ax.com>
In reply to#144602
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

>>> ...then paid again for a separate card when the "expert" couldn't figure
>>> out how to make his integrated GPU work with a 4K monitor.
>> 
>> It's not that it didn't work *at all*, it had erroneous results that
>> were intolerable.  Misaligned windows, etc.
>
>That would be "didn't work".


No.  Intel's drivers were flawed, or something to that effect.  It's
nothing I could've anticipated, although at the same time I wasn't
shocked, given that 4K was an emerging technology.


>I guess your "expertise" isn't worth much, huh?


You're just a tireless rebutter, which makes your arguments not worth
much.


>>>> I'm an expert, having used and observed the hardware and
>>>> software in recent years.
>>> ????????????????????????????????????
>> 
>> It's true, I've seen the evolution of Win10, and of Win11 up to 23H2/
>> Copilot.  But future iterations, I will not be an expert on M$ OSes,
>> because I'll be using Linux from the beginning, on new devices I may
>> obtain.
>"Seen the evolution of" does not mean "expert".
>
>I've "seen the evolution of" the airplane from the first fighter jets I 
>saw as a kid (F-101 Voodoos) to the current stealth F22, etc.
>
>Doesn't make me an expert.


I'm one of the world's most informed OS critics, which is why I'm
reading this in COLA.  Some people will read Web-zine articles,
rambling about the topic, others will be here on Usenet, where the
gloves are off, where real debate takes place.  I talk real knowledge,
not just some hot take to sell Web ads.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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