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| Started by | Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2024-11-24 14:39 -0500 |
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Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 14:39 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 12:21 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-24 15:38 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 12:54 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 16:06 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 13:48 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-25 11:50 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-24 18:20 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 18:33 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 16:09 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 19:20 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 16:23 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 19:50 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 17:09 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 20:34 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 17:44 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 21:03 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 18:17 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 21:37 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 18:42 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 21:58 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 18:59 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 22:19 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 19:32 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-24 22:48 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 19:52 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 23:20 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 23:46 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-25 06:18 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-26 14:29 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-26 17:51 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-26 15:12 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-26 18:26 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-27 10:59 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-27 10:55 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-27 11:31 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-02 11:16 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-02 14:09 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-02 13:26 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-02 14:55 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-03 08:47 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Pierre <pierrej@shaw.ca> - 2024-12-03 09:51 +0100
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-27 10:50 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-25 15:35 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-25 15:33 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2024-11-25 22:32 +0000
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 23:15 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 23:46 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-25 07:08 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-25 07:46 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-25 08:43 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-25 08:59 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-25 10:32 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-26 08:32 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-26 09:58 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-26 10:35 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-26 11:13 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-27 10:45 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-27 12:01 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-27 12:32 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-27 12:45 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-27 13:50 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-27 14:19 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-27 14:32 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-27 15:05 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-27 12:28 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-27 15:54 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-27 15:58 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-02 11:25 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-02 14:16 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-02 13:41 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-02 14:59 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-03 09:09 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-02 11:24 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-02 13:49 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-02 14:28 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-02 16:11 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-02 16:38 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-03 08:58 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-03 13:34 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-04 10:55 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-04 12:45 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-04 09:59 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-04 13:17 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-04 13:01 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-04 12:59 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-03 14:03 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-04 11:00 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-27 16:26 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-27 16:56 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-02 11:27 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-02 11:21 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-02 14:13 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-02 13:33 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-02 14:56 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-03 08:52 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-27 11:32 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-27 15:08 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-27 12:32 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-27 16:00 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-27 16:00 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-02 11:18 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-02 14:10 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-02 13:30 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-27 10:37 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-26 10:06 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-26 10:03 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-26 14:32 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-26 17:54 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-26 15:15 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2024-11-27 00:04 +0000
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-26 19:16 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Yon Wane <"yonwane-lol!"@pac2.com> - 2024-11-26 22:27 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-27 08:29 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-27 11:18 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting ppd382 <xyz@vote.com> - 2025-03-11 08:13 +0000
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Mai Keister <m.keister@altopia.net> - 2025-03-11 13:59 -0700
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "jubox@ovens.net" <jubox@ovens.net> - 2025-03-18 17:48 +0000
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting orangeneck <orangeneck@127.0.0.1> - 2025-03-29 22:06 +0100
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-25 15:42 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-26 14:31 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-26 17:53 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-26 15:13 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-26 18:28 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-26 15:38 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-26 18:58 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-26 16:16 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-26 19:42 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-26 17:33 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-26 20:48 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-27 06:25 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-27 11:17 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-06 19:28 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-07 13:18 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-07 17:03 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-07 14:17 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-07 17:39 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-07 15:40 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-07 18:53 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-07 16:01 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-07 19:19 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-07 16:45 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-07 20:14 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-07 17:31 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-07 20:43 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-07 17:48 -0800
Microsoft Linux Distro (was: Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting) vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-12-08 01:53 +0000
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-07 20:58 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-09 10:00 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-09 09:59 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-09 09:56 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-09 09:48 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-09 09:38 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-09 09:36 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-09 09:48 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-09 12:55 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-09 10:01 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-09 13:13 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-09 10:24 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-09 13:56 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-09 10:57 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-10 08:56 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-09 14:02 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-09 11:21 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-09 14:29 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-09 11:33 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-10 09:02 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Wayne Kerr <waynek@msu.edu> - 2024-12-14 21:50 +0100
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-14 13:17 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-10 09:01 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Wayne Kerr <waynek@msu.edu> - 2024-12-14 21:14 +0100
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-14 13:17 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-14 16:21 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-14 13:34 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-14 17:09 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-14 14:25 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-14 17:32 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-14 14:41 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-14 17:51 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-14 15:04 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-15 05:56 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-15 09:24 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-15 13:30 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 11:38 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 15:05 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 12:26 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 15:58 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 13:10 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 18:07 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-16 19:56 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 10:39 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 10:30 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 10:16 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 13:20 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 10:33 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 13:43 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 10:51 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 14:52 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 12:35 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-17 15:39 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 12:53 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 12:52 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 12:52 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-15 15:42 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-15 15:48 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-15 16:47 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-15 17:01 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-15 22:34 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 10:25 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-16 11:40 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 12:02 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-16 12:50 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 12:54 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 11:08 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 14:13 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 11:31 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 14:36 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 11:47 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 15:22 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 12:37 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 16:09 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 13:13 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 18:18 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 10:25 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 13:39 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 10:45 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 14:50 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 12:35 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-17 15:45 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 12:02 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 12:14 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 12:01 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 11:56 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 11:55 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 11:54 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 11:54 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 11:53 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 11:50 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 11:48 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 11:46 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 11:13 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 14:35 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 11:45 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 15:20 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 12:37 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 16:10 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 13:14 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 18:20 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 10:25 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 13:41 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 10:46 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 14:51 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 12:36 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 16:09 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-17 16:34 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 19:19 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 16:22 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 20:26 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 18:21 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-18 09:03 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-18 09:24 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-18 13:01 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-18 10:36 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-18 14:03 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 12:41 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting will <willford@yahoo.com> - 2024-12-21 01:50 +0100
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-20 17:01 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-20 20:19 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-20 17:42 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-20 20:50 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-20 17:53 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-20 21:57 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-20 19:06 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-20 22:17 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-21 10:10 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-21 16:10 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 12:43 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-20 22:05 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-20 22:15 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-20 23:31 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-21 08:44 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-21 10:11 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-21 16:13 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Din004 <din004@oracle.com> - 2024-12-25 10:44 +0100
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-25 09:26 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-25 11:55 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2024-12-26 02:07 +0000
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-25 23:07 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting alex <alex_@pintrest.com> - 2024-12-26 00:44 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-26 09:39 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Jon Ball <jon-ball@spectrum.com> - 2024-12-26 22:09 +0100
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-26 13:37 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting wasabi <lotso@jollyroger.com> - 2024-12-28 14:33 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-28 14:36 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 17:43 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-28 14:47 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 17:55 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-28 15:55 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 19:00 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-28 16:02 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 20:30 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-28 19:02 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 22:07 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-28 19:42 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 22:48 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-28 19:53 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 23:04 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-28 20:07 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 23:16 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-28 21:53 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 14:09 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 11:21 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 14:34 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 11:37 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 14:47 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 12:15 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 15:22 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 12:42 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 16:08 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 16:40 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 19:59 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 17:10 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Jack Sovalot <hee-cawkforme@jack.sovalot> - 2024-12-30 04:09 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Red Zone <redzone@trump.com> - 2024-12-30 19:45 +0000
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-30 14:57 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-30 12:05 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-30 15:27 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2024-12-30 21:25 +0000
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2024-12-31 00:54 +0100
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-31 06:38 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Jack Sovalot <hee-cawkforme@jack.sovalot> - 2024-12-30 16:59 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-31 06:36 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-30 10:52 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 12:56 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 16:13 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 16:42 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 20:00 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 17:10 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 21:46 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 18:52 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 22:09 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 19:22 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 22:27 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 19:39 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-30 10:59 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-30 10:59 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-30 10:57 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-30 10:56 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-30 10:54 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-30 10:51 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-30 10:50 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-30 10:49 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-30 10:47 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-30 10:45 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-30 10:44 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Petry F." <petry_f@hushmail.com> - 2024-12-29 04:25 +0000
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-28 21:54 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-30 10:42 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-30 10:41 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-28 21:52 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2024-12-30 18:23 +0000
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-30 10:30 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-30 13:42 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-30 11:23 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-30 14:55 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-30 11:58 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-30 15:25 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-30 15:01 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-30 18:07 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-30 15:19 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-30 18:41 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-30 15:43 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-31 06:30 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-31 06:28 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-31 06:27 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-30 12:04 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-30 15:26 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-30 15:13 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-30 18:23 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-30 15:40 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-30 19:14 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-30 23:04 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-31 11:52 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Byrd <byrd@someoem.com> - 2025-01-02 03:02 +0100
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-01 21:08 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-01 18:44 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-01 22:01 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-01 22:12 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Rudy Ball <rudyball@gmx.com> - 2025-01-03 19:02 +0000
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-03 11:20 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-03 15:19 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-03 14:54 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-03 18:40 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-03 16:18 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-03 19:28 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-03 17:11 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-03 20:24 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-03 17:40 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-03 20:59 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-03 19:39 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 14:29 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-05 12:36 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 20:53 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-05 18:19 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 21:29 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-05 18:32 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 21:47 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-05 19:03 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 22:14 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-05 19:39 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 22:50 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-05 23:32 -0800
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Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Clint <clintb@infiniti.net> - 2025-01-13 00:36 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-13 09:16 -0800
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Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Rudy Johnson <rudyj@google.com> - 2025-01-21 14:06 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-21 14:18 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Sadler <sadler@msn.com> - 2025-01-26 06:28 +0000
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Rudy Canoza <rudy@phil.hendrie.con> - 2025-01-22 03:46 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2025-01-06 08:10 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2025-01-06 08:09 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting AlphaHeater <AlphaHeater21@6959.concepte.store> - 2025-01-06 02:50 +0000
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2025-01-06 08:07 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2025-01-06 08:07 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2025-01-06 08:05 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2025-01-06 08:05 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2025-01-06 08:03 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2025-01-06 07:59 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2025-01-06 07:57 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-31 06:34 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-31 06:32 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-31 06:25 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-01 07:31 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-28 21:50 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2024-12-29 01:30 +0100
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-28 21:49 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting wasabi <lotso@jollyroger.com> - 2024-12-28 15:57 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-28 16:03 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-26 08:39 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-25 19:24 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-26 11:05 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting ND beat Indy <choke@choke.choke> - 2024-12-20 21:37 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-21 09:35 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-20 20:17 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-20 17:18 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-20 20:30 -0500
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Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 12:39 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 12:37 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Gary M. Stewart <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2024-12-25 21:48 +0100
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 12:36 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 12:34 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 12:32 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 14:06 -0800
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Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 12:28 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 12:27 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 12:25 -0600
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Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 12:21 -0600
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Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 12:16 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 11:42 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 15:16 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 12:33 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 16:04 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 13:13 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 18:18 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 10:20 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-16 16:29 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 17:53 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-16 19:51 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 10:38 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 10:29 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 10:18 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 13:23 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 10:31 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 13:20 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 13:15 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 13:14 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 11:40 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 15:08 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 12:29 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 16:01 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 13:30 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 18:24 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-16 21:11 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 10:28 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 13:11 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 13:09 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 13:03 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 13:02 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting hank <none@invalid.org> - 2024-12-16 00:02 +0100
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 09:06 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-14 18:21 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting hank <none@invalid.org> - 2024-12-15 23:06 +0100
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-15 15:41 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Duc Nguyen <dnguyen@somecorp.org> - 2024-12-15 19:10 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-15 22:50 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-15 22:42 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-15 22:35 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-10 08:56 -0600
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Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-10 08:49 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-09 09:34 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-09 09:32 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-09 09:31 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-12-07 23:59 +0000
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-09 09:30 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Rudy Canoza <rc@thejollykone.con> - 2024-12-08 04:06 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-09 10:02 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting T. Walz <tampons4sale@dont-email.me> - 2024-12-08 12:41 +0100
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-09 09:29 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-09 09:28 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-09 09:27 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-09 13:46 -0500
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Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-09 09:25 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-27 11:11 -0600
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Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-25 15:36 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-25 15:31 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-25 15:31 -0600
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-24 22:41 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 23:13 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 23:47 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-25 06:59 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-25 07:44 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-25 08:18 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-25 08:35 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-25 08:58 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-25 09:09 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-25 10:40 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-26 08:35 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-26 09:59 -0500
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-26 10:44 -0500
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Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-26 16:16 -0800
Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-26 19:46 -0500
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Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-24 22:40 -0500
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Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-26 14:38 -0800
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Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 16:00 -0500
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| From | "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> |
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| Date | 2024-12-03 08:47 -0600 |
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| In reply to | #144765 |
"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message news:044skj16l87hdr8b11bk225grth12mp9ph@4ax.com... > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote: > >>>>He wishes.. he's just a 'poser' there is NOTHING elite about his >>>>hardware, >>>>his setup, or even his knowledge. >>> >>> If you knew what it's like having Linux on a modern system you would >>> never say that. >> >>Given your inability to handle the hardware... why do I find myself less >>than moved by your empty claims you know software? > > > Upgrade to Win8.1 and we'll talk, heh. Why? Win8.1 sucks. Being one of the worst versions of windows along with Win8 and Millennium. Meanwhile Windows 7 regularly tops the charts as the best version of Windows yet released. Meanwhile, your suggestion that Win8.1 would be an improvement over Win7.. just confirms your lack of knowledge on the software. So now that you have confirmed you do NOT know software.. what do you suggest we talk about?
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| From | Pierre <pierrej@shaw.ca> |
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| Date | 2024-12-03 09:51 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <6e331768b3aaadf3e466fe3cef06734e@dizum.com> |
| In reply to | #144754 |
On 02 Dec 2024, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> posted some news:ed1skjtevtgktemobku2irrlfovuacg9a4@4ax.com: > "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote: >>"Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in message >>news:vi7s25$3tpm$1@dont-email.me... >>> >>> Hey... >>> >>> Joel isn't just an expert... >>> >>> ...he's "elite"! >> >>He wishes.. he's just a 'poser' there is NOTHING elite about his >>hardware, his setup, or even his knowledge. > > > If you knew what it's like having Linux on a modern system you would > never say that. Right. Running linux on a modern system could require six months to a year before half-baked drivers catch up, and things that should work out of the box finally do.
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| From | "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> |
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| Date | 2024-11-27 10:50 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <vi7ni3$45fk$9@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #144511 |
"Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in message news:vi5i4c$3jtcs$10@dont-email.me... > On 2024-11-25 03:18, Joel wrote: >> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: >> >>>>> He couldn't future-proof his video system. >>>>> >>>>> ? >>>> >>>> Are you really so surprised that the CPU's integrated video wouldn't >>>> do well, with 4K? It seems obvious that it'd help to have a discreet >>>> video card, I didn't need an expensive one, it's not a big deal. I'm >>>> glad to spend a little, to get a lot of mileage. >>> >>> /I'm/ not... >>> >>> ...but apparently you were. >> >> >> No I wasn't surprised, and I handled it, I bought an inexpensive card. >> Big F'ing deal. > If you hadn't been surprised, you have bought the card from the beginning. More than that, by his own admissions that means earlier he wasn't surprised his monitor was such a POS that he HAD to buy a video card he didn't need.
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| From | "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> |
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| Date | 2024-11-25 15:35 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <vi2s4u$31i81$18@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #144378 |
"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message news:7gu7kjlv96foto4848057b3008sjfln4vj@4ax.com... > Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: > >>He couldn't future-proof his video system. >> >>? > > > Are you really so surprised that the CPU's integrated video wouldn't > do well, with 4K? It seems obvious that it'd help to have a discreet > video card, I didn't need an expensive one, it's not a big deal. I'm > glad to spend a little, to get a lot of mileage. I'm just surprised you could add a 4K video card to a computer that couldn't handle the Win11 update.
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| From | "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> |
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| Date | 2024-11-25 15:33 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <vi2s4t$31i81$17@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #144375 |
"Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in message news:vi0s9l$2kdc6$1@dont-email.me... > On 2024-11-24 19:48, -hh wrote: >> On 11/24/24 9:58 PM, Joel wrote: >>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: >>> >>>>> I'm using about half of my [32 GB] RAM for main memory, with another 8 >>>>> GB or >>>>> so for cache, but not one byte of swap. It's elite. >>>> >>>> You're 133t, dude! >>>> >>>> You are so 133t! >>>> >>>> LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL >>>> >>>> ?????????????? >>> >>> >>> Yeah, it is great, because I am showing the benefits of Linux. >>> >> >> But you did have to set that up Linux yourself, right? >> And how much time, research, & testing did it take you? >> >> -hh > > Apparently not much. > > He couldn't future-proof his video system. Heck he didn't even future proof his computer system. Remember his system was inadequate to handle Win11 updates... ... by his own admission.
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| From | pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> |
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| Date | 2024-11-25 22:32 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vi2ttp$31olp$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #144465 |
On 2024-11-25, Scout <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote: > > > "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in message > news:vi0s9l$2kdc6$1@dont-email.me... >> On 2024-11-24 19:48, -hh wrote: >>> On 11/24/24 9:58 PM, Joel wrote: >>>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>>> I'm using about half of my [32 GB] RAM for main memory, with another 8 >>>>>> GB or >>>>>> so for cache, but not one byte of swap. It's elite. >>>>> >>>>> You're 133t, dude! >>>>> >>>>> You are so 133t! >>>>> >>>>> LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL >>>>> >>>>> ?????????????? >>>> >>>> >>>> Yeah, it is great, because I am showing the benefits of Linux. >>>> >>> >>> But you did have to set that up Linux yourself, right? >>> And how much time, research, & testing did it take you? >>> >>> -hh >> >> Apparently not much. >> >> He couldn't future-proof his video system. > > Heck he didn't even future proof his computer system. Remember his system > was inadequate to handle Win11 updates... > > ... by his own admission. > Along with hh, Alan is destroying the Joel poser. It's painful to watch. -- pothead "Ding Dong The Witch Is Gone" "Which Old Witch?" "The Kamala Harris Witch. Of Course!"
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| From | Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-11-24 23:15 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <mcu7kjtttdn0e875dffot5cjhf3ei4mq71@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #144374 |
-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote: >> I am showing the benefits of Linux. > >But you did have to set that up Linux yourself, right? >And how much time, research, & testing did it take you? Nothing happens without action. You can pay Apple or M$ to do it for you, or you can do it yourself. Doing it myself gives me fabulous results, within a reasonable budget. -- Joel W. Crump Amendment XIV Section 1. [...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
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| From | Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> |
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| Date | 2024-11-24 23:46 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <vi1a0s$2m7gp$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #144377 |
On 2024-11-24 20:15, Joel wrote: > -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote: > >>> I am showing the benefits of Linux. >> >> But you did have to set that up Linux yourself, right? >> And how much time, research, & testing did it take you? > > > Nothing happens without action. You can pay Apple or M$ to do it for > you, or you can do it yourself. Doing it myself gives me fabulous > results, within a reasonable budget. > Results you won't quantify... ...on a budget you won't quantify. Got it.
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| From | -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> |
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| Date | 2024-11-25 07:08 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <vi1pbt$2o5tj$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #144380 |
On 11/25/24 2:46 AM, Alan wrote: > On 2024-11-24 20:15, Joel wrote: >> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote: >> >>>> I am showing the benefits of Linux. >>> >>> But you did have to set that up Linux yourself, right? >>> And how much time, research, & testing did it take you? >> >> >> Nothing happens without action. You can pay Apple or M$ to do it for >> you, or you can do it yourself. Doing it myself gives me fabulous >> results, within a reasonable budget. >> > > Results you won't quantify... > > ...on a budget you won't quantify. > > Got it. That too, but it wasn't really my point here. Point was the braggadocio on having to go manually set up a capability that mainstream OS users already have, and take for granted. To use an automotive analogy, its like he's bragging that he upgraded his carb to have automatic choke ... not realizing that everyone else looks at them, thinking: "there's still cars which have a manual choke?" -hh
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| From | Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-11-25 07:46 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <p9s8kj1up5qpsn4cekj410aaeiq006so6m@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #144386 |
-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote: >the braggadocio on having to go manually set up a capability >that mainstream OS users already have, and take for granted. > >To use an automotive analogy, its like he's bragging that he upgraded >his carb to have automatic choke ... not realizing that everyone else >looks at them, thinking: "there's still cars which have a manual choke?" I can't imagine how lazy people are, to pay so much for Apple's and higher-end OEMs' offerings. Nor how they buy inferior hardware, to save money that way. I want the best of both worlds - self-assembled. -- Joel W. Crump Amendment XIV Section 1. [...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
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| From | -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> |
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| Date | 2024-11-25 08:43 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <vi1uun$2o90g$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #144389 |
On 11/25/24 7:46 AM, Joel wrote: > -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote: > >> the braggadocio on having to go manually set up a capability >> that mainstream OS users already have, and take for granted. >> >> To use an automotive analogy, its like he's bragging that he upgraded >> his carb to have automatic choke ... not realizing that everyone else >> looks at them, thinking: "there's still cars which have a manual choke?" > > > I can't imagine how lazy people are, to pay so much for Apple's and > higher-end OEMs' offerings. Some are buying for the actual high-end performance. We've already seen how your claimed "high-end" PC isn't really so high end after all: your CPU & Storage benchmarks are literally half of the Apple Studio that you've tried to compare your system against, plus yesterday you revealed that you've already replaced the original video controller because it couldn't handle a single 4K display, whereas the Mac Studio you've been using to compare yourself to can handle five. > Nor how they buy inferior hardware, to save money that way. > I want the best of both worlds - self-assembled. Except that you actually haven't done that: * you under-specced your video and have replaced it already; * you over-specced your RAM, so you paid for it too early (if you'll ever actually need it). It raises the question of just maybe perhaps the professionals at the OEMs are just slightly better at this stuff than you personally are. /s -hh
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| From | Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-11-25 08:59 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <aa09kjhd0a45oerejp8v1lq6d94ddkgfdr@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #144394 |
-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote: >>> the braggadocio on having to go manually set up a capability >>> that mainstream OS users already have, and take for granted. >>> >>> To use an automotive analogy, its like he's bragging that he upgraded >>> his carb to have automatic choke ... not realizing that everyone else >>> looks at them, thinking: "there's still cars which have a manual choke?" >> >> I can't imagine how lazy people are, to pay so much for Apple's and >> higher-end OEMs' offerings. > >Some are buying for the actual high-end performance. We've already seen >how your claimed "high-end" PC isn't really so high end after all: > >your CPU & Storage benchmarks are literally half of the Apple Studio >that you've tried to compare your system against, I wasn't trying to compare the benchmarks. I was comparing realized value. My computer's beginning to age, and yet because I'm running Linux, this has no meaning to me. It might as well still be brand new. Same thing with my Galaxy S21 phone, it's still as good as new to me, I don't miss gimmicky features that an S24 would offer. >plus yesterday you revealed that you've already replaced the original >video controller because it couldn't handle a single 4K display, whereas >the Mac Studio you've been using to compare yourself to can handle five. I didn't have a "video controller", why do you keep saying that? It was just the CPU's video, which was great for 1080p, not for 4K. Big whoop, the cheap card I got is fine since I don't game. >> Nor how they buy inferior hardware, to save money that way. >> I want the best of both worlds - self-assembled. > >Except that you actually haven't done that: > >* you under-specced your video and have replaced it already; > >* you over-specced your RAM, so you paid for it too early > (if you'll ever actually need it). Just false. >It raises the question of just maybe perhaps the professionals at the >OEMs are just slightly better at this stuff than you personally are. /s Not remotely. -- Joel W. Crump Amendment XIV Section 1. [...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
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| From | -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> |
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| Date | 2024-11-25 10:32 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <vi25ag$2qmb7$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #144396 |
On 11/25/24 8:59 AM, Joel wrote: > -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote: > >>>> the braggadocio on having to go manually set up a capability >>>> that mainstream OS users already have, and take for granted. >>>> >>>> To use an automotive analogy, its like he's bragging that he upgraded >>>> his carb to have automatic choke ... not realizing that everyone else >>>> looks at them, thinking: "there's still cars which have a manual choke?" >>> >>> I can't imagine how lazy people are, to pay so much for Apple's and >>> higher-end OEMs' offerings. >> >> Some are buying for the actual high-end performance. We've already seen >> how your claimed "high-end" PC isn't really so high end after all: >> >> your CPU & Storage benchmarks are literally half of the Apple Studio >> that you've tried to compare your system against, > > > I wasn't trying to compare the benchmarks. I was comparing realized > value. Fine, but why did you then compare your system to one that's known to be vastly more capable? Your "Apples vs Oranges" has become deliberate. > My computer's beginning to age, and yet because I'm running > Linux, this has no meaning to me. It might as well still be brand > new. Same thing with my Galaxy S21 phone, it's still as good as new > to me, I don't miss gimmicky features that an S24 would offer. Oh, so its just barely 3 years old and you've already noticing that it is aging? So just how sure are you now that its going to last as many years as you've been hoping it would without several more upgrades, even with Linux? Keep in mind that you're already at over $1100 invested & counting. >> plus yesterday you revealed that you've already replaced the original >> video controller because it couldn't handle a single 4K display, whereas >> the Mac Studio you've been using to compare yourself to can handle five. > > > I didn't have a "video controller", why do you keep saying that? That its integral to the CPU doesn't mean that its not a video controller. > It was just the CPU's video, which was great for 1080p, not for 4K. > Big whoop, the cheap card I got is fine since I don't game. Trailing edge of technology, which you've already paid to replace. Good lifecycle management plan there! /s >>> Nor how they buy inferior hardware, to save money that way. >>> I want the best of both worlds - self-assembled. >> >> Except that you actually haven't done that: >> >> * you under-specced your video and have replaced it already; >> >> * you over-specced your RAM, so you paid for it too early >> (if you'll ever actually need it). > > > Just false. You've already told us that you spent $100 to upgrade the video. You've already told us that you spent some amount (I've assumed $50) to increase RAM to 32GB and that its currently not using any swap, which means that the extra RAM isn't being used at all. >> It raises the question of just maybe perhaps the professionals at the >> OEMs are just slightly better at this stuff than you personally are. /s > > Not remotely. In your dreams, unfortunately. As I've already noted, you could have bought a Mac Mini for less & had comparable/better performing hardware. -hh
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| From | Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-11-26 08:32 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <94jbkjpb6dbu9453rl9eguaa64srlugpfr@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #144398 |
-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote: >>> your CPU & Storage benchmarks are literally half of the Apple Studio >>> that you've tried to compare your system against, >> >> I wasn't trying to compare the benchmarks. I was comparing realized >> value. > >Fine, but why did you then compare your system to one that's known to be >vastly more capable? Your "Apples vs Oranges" has become deliberate. I was comparing to an Apple device currently available, that it is newer and faster didn't matter, because it was about initial price. >> My computer's beginning to age, and yet because I'm running >> Linux, this has no meaning to me. It might as well still be brand >> new. Same thing with my Galaxy S21 phone, it's still as good as new >> to me, I don't miss gimmicky features that an S24 would offer. > >Oh, so its just barely 3 years old and you've already noticing that it >is aging? I did after 2 1/2 years with Win11, but I don't with Linux, no. > So just how sure are you now that its going to last as many >years as you've been hoping it would without several more upgrades, even >with Linux? Keep in mind that you're already at over $1100 invested & >counting. Nothing to indicate I'll need further upgrades, and your figure for what I've put in seems higher than actual. >>> plus yesterday you revealed that you've already replaced the original >>> video controller because it couldn't handle a single 4K display, whereas >>> the Mac Studio you've been using to compare yourself to can handle five. >> >> I didn't have a "video controller", why do you keep saying that? > >That its integral to the CPU doesn't mean that its not a video controller. > >> It was just the CPU's video, which was great for 1080p, not for 4K. >> Big whoop, the cheap card I got is fine since I don't game. > >Trailing edge of technology, which you've already paid to replace. Good >lifecycle management plan there! /s That is all nonsense, I liked the i5-10400 without regard to it containing basic video, that was something convenient for my old monitor, that I had to replace it with a card was no biggie. >>>> Nor how they buy inferior hardware, to save money that way. >>>> I want the best of both worlds - self-assembled. >>> >>> Except that you actually haven't done that: >>> >>> * you under-specced your video and have replaced it already; >>> >>> * you over-specced your RAM, so you paid for it too early >>> (if you'll ever actually need it). >> >> Just false. > >You've already told us that you spent $100 to upgrade the video. > >You've already told us that you spent some amount (I've assumed $50) to >increase RAM to 32GB and that its currently not using any swap, which >means that the extra RAM isn't being used at all. I regularly use 16 GB for main usage *plus* more for cache, I even occasionally go slightly over the full 32 GB when both are factored in, slightly using swap. I *could* actually move to 48 or 64 GB, if I were obsessed. >>> It raises the question of just maybe perhaps the professionals at the >>> OEMs are just slightly better at this stuff than you personally are. /s >> >> Not remotely. > >In your dreams, unfortunately. As I've already noted, you could have >bought a Mac Mini for less & had comparable/better performing hardware. But it'd be running macOS. :) -- Joel W. Crump Amendment XIV Section 1. [...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
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| From | -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> |
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| Date | 2024-11-26 09:58 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <vi4nnh$3ere5$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #144488 |
On 11/26/24 8:32 AM, Joel wrote: > -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote: > >>>> your CPU & Storage benchmarks are literally half of the Apple Studio >>>> that you've tried to compare your system against, >>> >>> I wasn't trying to compare the benchmarks. I was comparing realized >>> value. >> >> Fine, but why did you then compare your system to one that's known to be >> vastly more capable? Your "Apples vs Oranges" has become deliberate. > > I was comparing to an Apple device currently available, that it is > newer and faster didn't matter, because it was about initial price. You went upscale instead of choosing one comparable to your PC's i5. That's like bragging that a Toyota Yaris is cheaper than a Porsche 911 while pretending that no other cars exist in the marketplace. >>> My computer's beginning to age, and yet because I'm running >>> Linux, this has no meaning to me. It might as well still be brand >>> new. Same thing with my Galaxy S21 phone, it's still as good as new >>> to me, I don't miss gimmicky features that an S24 would offer. >> >> Oh, so its just barely 3 years old and you've already noticing that it >> is aging? > > I did after 2 1/2 years with Win11, but I don't with Linux, no. What changed in your software/useage to have 'degraded' Windows? I've used Windows for decades: the era of 'bitrot' was circa XP. >> So just how sure are you now that its going to last as many >> years as you've been hoping it would without several more upgrades, even >> with Linux? Keep in mind that you're already at over $1100 invested & >> counting. > > Nothing to indicate I'll need further upgrades, and your figure for > what I've put in seems higher than actual. But nothing to indicate that you actually needed the upgrades that you've already paid for, especially RAM. And for figure, the only one that isn't directly from what you provided is the cost of your +16GB RAM upgrade. I estimated it was +$50 for which you've protested but not provided its actual cost.... ...and since that +$50 isn't included in the "$1100 invested" statement above, you have zero basis to complain: had my estimate for your RAM upgrade cost had been included, it would have said $1150. >>>> plus yesterday you revealed that you've already replaced the original >>>> video controller because it couldn't handle a single 4K display, whereas >>>> the Mac Studio you've been using to compare yourself to can handle five. >>> >>> I didn't have a "video controller", why do you keep saying that? >> >> That its integral to the CPU doesn't mean that its not a video controller. >> >>> It was just the CPU's video, which was great for 1080p, not for 4K. >>> Big whoop, the cheap card I got is fine since I don't game. >> >> Trailing edge of technology, which you've already paid to replace. Good >> lifecycle management plan there! /s > > That is all nonsense, I liked the i5-10400 without regard to it > containing basic video, that was something convenient for my old > monitor, that I had to replace it with a card was no biggie. Which is you saying that you're not sensitive to a +10% cost increase. With the prior insensitivity to your $200 Windows license part, you're at +$300 over, so you're not sensitive to +30% cost increases. You're not being a particularly value conscious consumer in IRL practice: so remind us again about why OEM markups are so 'evil'? /s >>>>> Nor how they buy inferior hardware, to save money that way. >>>>> I want the best of both worlds - self-assembled. >>>> >>>> Except that you actually haven't done that: >>>> >>>> * you under-specced your video and have replaced it already; >>>> >>>> * you over-specced your RAM, so you paid for it too early >>>> (if you'll ever actually need it). >>> >>> Just false. >> >> You've already told us that you spent $100 to upgrade the video. >> >> You've already told us that you spent some amount (I've assumed $50) to >> increase RAM to 32GB and that its currently not using any swap, which >> means that the extra RAM isn't being used at all. > > I regularly use 16 GB for main usage *plus* more for cache, I even > occasionally go slightly over the full 32 GB when both are factored > in, slightly using swap. I *could* actually move to 48 or 64 GB, if I > were obsessed. Merely allocating doesn't mean that it actually gets used: what was your swap performance metric *before* you chose to drop money on a RAM upgrade? Because without evidence of a performance degradation, you're again gratuitously spending your money to solve a non-problem. >>>> It raises the question of just maybe perhaps the professionals at the >>>> OEMs are just slightly better at this stuff than you personally are. /s >>> >>> Not remotely. >> >> In your dreams, unfortunately. As I've already noted, you could have >> bought a Mac Mini for less & had comparable/better performing hardware. > > > But it'd be running macOS. :) > Because no Mac ever has been able to run Linux? Pull my other leg. Now granted, there are some reports that there's not a great version of Linux for running on the M4 CPUs, but one can always run Linux in a VM under MacOS ... I've found that Windows11 does fine this way. -hh
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| From | Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-11-26 10:35 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <7cpbkj18m7dbovgrbouqjh55i3a88tu84p@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #144493 |
-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote: >>>>> your CPU & Storage benchmarks are literally half of the Apple Studio >>>>> that you've tried to compare your system against, >>>> >>>> I wasn't trying to compare the benchmarks. I was comparing realized >>>> value. >>> >>> Fine, but why did you then compare your system to one that's known to be >>> vastly more capable? Your "Apples vs Oranges" has become deliberate. >> >> I was comparing to an Apple device currently available, that it is >> newer and faster didn't matter, because it was about initial price. > >You went upscale instead of choosing one comparable to your PC's i5. > >That's like bragging that a Toyota Yaris is cheaper than a Porsche 911 >while pretending that no other cars exist in the marketplace. I bought good stuff relative to when I bought it and my needs. >>>> My computer's beginning to age, and yet because I'm running >>>> Linux, this has no meaning to me. It might as well still be brand >>>> new. Same thing with my Galaxy S21 phone, it's still as good as new >>>> to me, I don't miss gimmicky features that an S24 would offer. >>> >>> Oh, so its just barely 3 years old and you've already noticing that it >>> is aging? >> >> I did after 2 1/2 years with Win11, but I don't with Linux, no. > >What changed in your software/useage to have 'degraded' Windows? >I've used Windows for decades: the era of 'bitrot' was circa XP. It's just heavier demands on hardware. M$ is not in the consumer's interest. Linux is. >>> So just how sure are you now that its going to last as many >>> years as you've been hoping it would without several more upgrades, even >>> with Linux? Keep in mind that you're already at over $1100 invested & >>> counting. >> >> Nothing to indicate I'll need further upgrades, and your figure for >> what I've put in seems higher than actual. > >But nothing to indicate that you actually needed the upgrades that >you've already paid for, especially RAM. Wrong, my usage hits 16 GB *not* including cache right away. 32 GB is a very reasonable amount to have. >And for figure, the only one that isn't directly from what you provided >is the cost of your +16GB RAM upgrade. I estimated it was +$50 for >which you've protested but not provided its actual cost.... > >...and since that +$50 isn't included in the "$1100 invested" statement >above, you have zero basis to complain: had my estimate for your RAM >upgrade cost had been included, it would have said $1150. It's something like $50, yeah, no biggie, much like the cheap video card. >> I liked the i5-10400 without regard to it >> containing basic video, that was something convenient for my old >> monitor, that I had to replace it with a card was no biggie. > >Which is you saying that you're not sensitive to a +10% cost increase. > >With the prior insensitivity to your $200 Windows license part, you're >at +$300 over, so you're not sensitive to +30% cost increases. > >You're not being a particularly value conscious consumer in IRL >practice: so remind us again about why OEM markups are so 'evil'? /s The problem is that to get what I have, you have to pay so much up front, with Apple. There's no question I got equally good components for less. >> I regularly use 16 GB for main usage *plus* more for cache, I even >> occasionally go slightly over the full 32 GB when both are factored >> in, slightly using swap. I *could* actually move to 48 or 64 GB, if I >> were obsessed. > >Merely allocating doesn't mean that it actually gets used: what was your >swap performance metric *before* you chose to drop money on a RAM >upgrade? Because without evidence of a performance degradation, you're >again gratuitously spending your money to solve a non-problem. I watch System Monitor, I see that my 32 GB approaches and even slightly surpasses getting maxed out, including cache, leading to minor use of swap. >>>>> It raises the question of just maybe perhaps the professionals at the >>>>> OEMs are just slightly better at this stuff than you personally are. /s >>>> >>>> Not remotely. >>> >>> In your dreams, unfortunately. As I've already noted, you could have >>> bought a Mac Mini for less & had comparable/better performing hardware. >> >> But it'd be running macOS. :) > >Because no Mac ever has been able to run Linux? Pull my other leg. >Now granted, there are some reports that there's not a great version of >Linux for running on the M4 CPUs, but one can always run Linux in a VM >under MacOS ... I've found that Windows11 does fine this way. I wouldn't buy Apple hardware to run something other than macOS. That it can isn't really a material point. -- Joel W. Crump Amendment XIV Section 1. [...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
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| From | Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-11-26 11:13 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <rosbkj196f9d8nf3krl56vbbamcgj02erh@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #144495 |
Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote: >my usage hits 16 GB *not* including cache right away I would clarify, it's actually not quite that when I first boot up and load everything, but approaching it. It's more when I additionally load LibreOffice Writer and GIMP, and the PDF viewer, yada yada, it hits and exceeds 16 GB main RAM use. -- Joel W. Crump Amendment XIV Section 1. [...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
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| From | "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> |
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| Date | 2024-11-27 10:45 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <vi7ni2$45fk$7@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #144497 |
"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message news:rosbkj196f9d8nf3krl56vbbamcgj02erh@4ax.com... > Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote: > >>my usage hits 16 GB *not* including cache right away > > > I would clarify, it's actually not quite that when I first boot up and > load everything, but approaching it. It's more when I additionally > load LibreOffice Writer and GIMP, and the PDF viewer, yada yada, it > hits and exceeds 16 GB main RAM use. Really? LibreOffice Writer - 256MB GIMP - 4GB PDF viewer - about 400MB Win11 - 2GB-8GB However, I would expect a "high end" system to have adequate memory when setup. Because even if we take the high end for Win11, you still have lots of overhead for ordinary programs. I would think a well educated builder putting together a "high end" system in the habit of having a lot of programs active would have allowed for that in his build at the start. Now you've had to either replace your memory or fill up your remaining slots because you failed to properly determine your hardware needs at the start.
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| From | -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> |
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| Date | 2024-11-27 12:01 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <vi7j8c$25k2$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #144495 |
On 11/26/24 10:35 AM, Joel wrote: > -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote: > >>>>>> your CPU & Storage benchmarks are literally half of the Apple Studio >>>>>> that you've tried to compare your system against, >>>>> >>>>> I wasn't trying to compare the benchmarks. I was comparing realized >>>>> value. >>>> >>>> Fine, but why did you then compare your system to one that's known to be >>>> vastly more capable? Your "Apples vs Oranges" has become deliberate. >>> >>> I was comparing to an Apple device currently available, that it is >>> newer and faster didn't matter, because it was about initial price. >> >> You went upscale instead of choosing one comparable to your PC's i5. >> >> That's like bragging that a Toyota Yaris is cheaper than a Porsche 911 >> while pretending that no other cars exist in the marketplace. > > I bought good stuff relative to when I bought it and my needs. Except for how you claimed to have promptly had to upgrade your video, showing that you didn't really buy "good" stuff: you bought marginal gear which per your claim didn't even support 'state of the shelf'. >>>>> My computer's beginning to age, and yet because I'm running >>>>> Linux, this has no meaning to me. It might as well still be brand >>>>> new. Same thing with my Galaxy S21 phone, it's still as good as new >>>>> to me, I don't miss gimmicky features that an S24 would offer. >>>> >>>> Oh, so its just barely 3 years old and you've already noticing that it >>>> is aging? >>> >>> I did after 2 1/2 years with Win11, but I don't with Linux, no. >> >> What changed in your software/useage to have 'degraded' Windows? >> I've used Windows for decades: the era of 'bitrot' was circa XP. > > It's just heavier demands on hardware. Which was more of doing what? Games? Computational Fluid Dynamics? > M$ is not in the consumer's interest. Linux is. With a ~65% market share, how is MS not clearly consumers' #1 choice? >>>> So just how sure are you now that its going to last as many years >>>> as you've been hoping it would without several more upgrades, even >>>> with Linux? Keep in mind that you're already at over $1100 invested >>>> & counting. >>> >>> Nothing to indicate I'll need further upgrades, and your figure for >>> what I've put in seems higher than actual. >> >> But nothing to indicate that you actually needed the upgrades that >> you've already paid for, especially RAM. > > Wrong, my usage hits 16 GB *not* including cache right away. 32 GB is > a very reasonable amount to have. You sure that it didn't hit 16GB because you set up the 16GB cache? Change to a 4GB cache and tell us what amount it says its usage hits. >> And for figure, the only one that isn't directly from what you provided >> is the cost of your +16GB RAM upgrade. I estimated it was +$50 for >> which you've protested but not provided its actual cost.... >> >> ...and since that +$50 isn't included in the "$1100 invested" statement >> above, you have zero basis to complain: had my estimate for your RAM >> upgrade cost had been included, it would have said $1150. > > It's something like $50, yeah, no biggie, much like the cheap video > card. But it still all adds up. As has been already noted, you've overpaid by a good 30% while getting less capability overall. >>> I liked the i5-10400 without regard to it containing >>> basic video, that was something convenient for my old >>> monitor, that I had to replace it with a card was no biggie. >> >> Which is you saying that you're not sensitive to a +10% cost increase. >> >> With the prior insensitivity to your $200 Windows license part, you're >> at +$300 over, so you're not sensitive to +30% cost increases. >> >> You're not being a particularly value conscious consumer in IRL >> practice: so remind us again about why OEM markups are so 'evil'? /s > > The problem is that to get what I have, you have to pay so much up > front, with Apple. There's no question I got equally good components > for less. That claim has already been shown to be untrue, for your CPU & SSD bandwidths (& perhaps RAM too) are literally half, while you paid more. >>> I regularly use 16 GB for main usage *plus* more for cache, I even >>> occasionally go slightly over the full 32 GB when both are factored >>> in, slightly using swap. I *could* actually move to 48 or 64 GB, if I >>> were obsessed. >> >> Merely allocating doesn't mean that it actually gets used: what was your >> swap performance metric *before* you chose to drop money on a RAM >> upgrade? Because without evidence of a performance degradation, you're >> again gratuitously spending your money to solve a non-problem. > > > I watch System Monitor, I see that my 32 GB approaches and even > slightly surpasses getting maxed out, including cache, leading to > minor use of swap. Modern OSs are designed to use all of the available hardware RAM, which makes the old method of looking at just usage effectively obsolete. >>>>>> It raises the question of just maybe perhaps the professionals at the >>>>>> OEMs are just slightly better at this stuff than you personally are. /s >>>>> >>>>> Not remotely. >>>> >>>> In your dreams, unfortunately. As I've already noted, you could have >>>> bought a Mac Mini for less & had comparable/better performing hardware. >>> >>> But it'd be running macOS. :) >> >> Because no Mac ever has been able to run Linux? Pull my other leg. >> Now granted, there are some reports that there's not a great version of >> Linux for running on the M4 CPUs, but one can always run Linux in a VM >> under MacOS ... I've found that Windows11 does fine this way. > > I wouldn't buy Apple hardware to run something other than macOS. That > it can isn't really a material point. Avoidance, which is even if you don't want to run MacOS, the opportunity that you spurned to get better hardware at a lower price. -hh
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| From | Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-11-27 12:32 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <c6lekjpcdl81hef5f8lktrm56c5hna8tmm@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #144559 |
-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote: >> I bought good stuff relative to when I bought it and my needs. > >Except for how you claimed to have promptly had to upgrade your video, >showing that you didn't really buy "good" stuff: you bought marginal >gear which per your claim didn't even support 'state of the shelf'. The CPU's video is incidental to having a CPU. The NVIDIA card is an add-on that was something I'd considered as a possibility all along. WTF are you harping on that for? >>>>>> My computer's beginning to age, and yet because I'm running >>>>>> Linux, this has no meaning to me. It might as well still be brand >>>>>> new. Same thing with my Galaxy S21 phone, it's still as good as new >>>>>> to me, I don't miss gimmicky features that an S24 would offer. >>>>> >>>>> Oh, so its just barely 3 years old and you've already noticing that it >>>>> is aging? >>>> >>>> I did after 2 1/2 years with Win11, but I don't with Linux, no. >>> >>> What changed in your software/useage to have 'degraded' Windows? >>> I've used Windows for decades: the era of 'bitrot' was circa XP. >> >> It's just heavier demands on hardware. > >Which was more of doing what? Games? Computational Fluid Dynamics? Just existing, M$ steals CPU cycles. >> M$ is not in the consumer's interest. Linux is. > >With a ~65% market share, how is MS not clearly consumers' #1 choice? It goes to show how much they know. >>> nothing to indicate that you actually needed the upgrades that >>> you've already paid for, especially RAM. >> >> Wrong, my usage hits 16 GB *not* including cache right away. 32 GB is >> a very reasonable amount to have. > >You sure that it didn't hit 16GB because you set up the 16GB cache? >Change to a 4GB cache and tell us what amount it says its usage hits. I didn't mess with anything of that nature, I just let the OS work. >>> And for figure, the only one that isn't directly from what you provided >>> is the cost of your +16GB RAM upgrade. I estimated it was +$50 for >>> which you've protested but not provided its actual cost.... >>> >>> ...and since that +$50 isn't included in the "$1100 invested" statement >>> above, you have zero basis to complain: had my estimate for your RAM >>> upgrade cost had been included, it would have said $1150. >> >> It's something like $50, yeah, no biggie, much like the cheap video >> card. > >But it still all adds up. As has been already noted, you've overpaid by >a good 30% while getting less capability overall. Not in the least, I got good prices at the times I purchased the gear, it adds up to a great value, long-lasting with Linux, unlike Winblows 11. -- Joel W. Crump Amendment XIV Section 1. [...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
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