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Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting

Started byWarren <warrenf@gmail.com>
First post2024-11-22 03:00 +0000
Last post2024-11-23 19:05 +0100
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  Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Warren <warrenf@gmail.com> - 2024-11-22 03:00 +0000
    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-11-22 08:27 -0500
      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2024-11-22 22:34 +0000
    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-22 09:09 -0500
      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2024-11-22 16:25 +0000
        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-22 20:47 +0000
          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2024-11-22 22:29 +0000
            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-11-23 07:39 -0500
              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2024-11-24 11:07 +1300
                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Isaac Montara <IsaacMontara@nospam.com> - 2024-11-23 18:01 -0500
                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-23 18:20 -0500
                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-23 16:17 -0800
                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-23 20:18 -0500
                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-23 17:32 -0800
                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-23 21:12 -0500
                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-23 18:21 -0800
                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-06 19:59 -0500
                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-06 17:40 -0800
                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-06 22:00 -0500
                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2024-11-24 17:59 +1300
            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-23 08:12 -0500
              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Klaus  Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergent�ter.@gmail.com> - 2024-11-23 05:16 -0800
                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2024-11-23 14:15 +0000
                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-23 11:17 -0500
                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2024-11-23 16:35 +0000
                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-23 13:32 -0500
                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-23 11:03 -0800
                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-23 14:32 -0500
                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-23 11:50 -0800
                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2024-11-23 14:18 -0600
                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-23 12:24 -0800
                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-23 22:12 -0500
                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting ILikeSushiRolls <none@none.invalid> - 2024-11-24 12:53 +0100
                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-24 07:17 -0500
                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Peter <confused@nospam.net> - 2024-11-24 21:39 +0000
                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 16:45 -0500
                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 13:51 -0800
                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting anonymous <anon@anon.com> - 2024-11-25 01:11 +0100
                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2024-11-24 17:26 +0100
                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 11:13 -0800
                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-23 15:26 -0500
                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-23 12:42 -0800
                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-23 16:10 -0500
                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-23 13:22 -0800
                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-23 16:48 -0500
                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-23 13:53 -0800
                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-23 17:46 -0500
                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-23 14:59 -0800
                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-23 18:11 -0500
                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-23 15:42 -0800
                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-23 19:08 -0500
                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-23 16:10 -0800
                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-23 20:03 -0500
                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-23 17:32 -0800
                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-23 21:10 -0500
                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-23 18:12 -0800
                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-23 21:38 -0500
                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-23 20:16 -0800
                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-25 11:30 -0600
                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-25 11:29 -0600
                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-26 14:28 -0800
                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-25 11:25 -0600
                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-25 11:24 -0600
                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-25 11:23 -0600
                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-23 19:14 -0500
                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-23 20:13 -0500
                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-23 18:14 -0800
                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-23 21:39 -0500
                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 07:59 -0500
                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-24 13:28 -0500
                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 14:39 -0500
                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 12:21 -0800
                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-24 15:38 -0500
                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 12:54 -0800
                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 16:06 -0500
                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 13:48 -0800
                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-25 11:50 -0600
                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-24 18:20 -0500
                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 18:33 -0500
                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 16:09 -0800
                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 19:20 -0500
                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 16:23 -0800
                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 19:50 -0500
                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 17:09 -0800
                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 20:34 -0500
                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 17:44 -0800
                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 21:03 -0500
                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 18:17 -0800
                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 21:37 -0500
                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 18:42 -0800
                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 21:58 -0500
                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 18:59 -0800
                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 22:19 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 19:32 -0800
                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-24 22:48 -0500
                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 19:52 -0800
                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 23:20 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 23:46 -0800
                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-25 06:18 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-26 14:29 -0800
                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-26 17:51 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-26 15:12 -0800
                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-26 18:26 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-27 10:59 -0600
                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-27 10:55 -0600
                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-27 11:31 -0800
                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-02 11:16 -0600
                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-02 14:09 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-02 13:26 -0600
                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-02 14:55 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-03 08:47 -0600
                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Pierre <pierrej@shaw.ca> - 2024-12-03 09:51 +0100
                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-27 10:50 -0600
                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-25 15:35 -0600
                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-25 15:33 -0600
                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2024-11-25 22:32 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 23:15 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 23:46 -0800
                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-25 07:08 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-25 07:46 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-25 08:43 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-25 08:59 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-25 10:32 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-26 08:32 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-26 09:58 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-26 10:35 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-26 11:13 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-27 10:45 -0600
                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-27 12:01 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-27 12:32 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-27 12:45 -0600
                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-27 13:50 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-27 14:19 -0500
                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-27 14:32 -0500
                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-27 15:05 -0500
                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-27 12:28 -0800
                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-27 15:54 -0500
                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-27 15:58 -0800
                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-02 11:25 -0600
                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-02 14:16 -0500
                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-02 13:41 -0600
                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-02 14:59 -0500
                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-03 09:09 -0600
                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-02 11:24 -0600
                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-02 13:49 -0500
                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-02 14:28 -0500
                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-02 16:11 -0500
                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-02 16:38 -0500
                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-03 08:58 -0600
                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-03 13:34 -0500
                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-04 10:55 -0600
                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-04 12:45 -0500
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-04 09:59 -0800
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-04 13:17 -0500
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-04 13:01 -0600
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-04 12:59 -0600
                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-03 14:03 -0500
                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-04 11:00 -0600
                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-27 16:26 -0500
                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-27 16:56 -0500
                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-02 11:27 -0600
                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-02 11:21 -0600
                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-02 14:13 -0500
                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-02 13:33 -0600
                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-02 14:56 -0500
                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-03 08:52 -0600
                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-27 11:32 -0800
                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-27 15:08 -0500
                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-27 12:32 -0800
                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-27 16:00 -0500
                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-27 16:00 -0800
                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-02 11:18 -0600
                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-02 14:10 -0500
                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-02 13:30 -0600
                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-27 10:37 -0600
                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-26 10:06 -0600
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-20 17:42 -0800
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-20 17:53 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-20 21:57 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-20 19:06 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-20 22:17 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-21 10:10 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-21 16:10 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-25 12:43 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-20 22:05 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-20 22:15 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-20 23:31 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-21 08:44 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-21 10:11 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-21 16:13 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Din004 <din004@oracle.com> - 2024-12-25 10:44 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-25 09:26 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-25 11:55 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2024-12-26 02:07 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-25 23:07 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting alex <alex_@pintrest.com> - 2024-12-26 00:44 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-26 09:39 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Jon Ball <jon-ball@spectrum.com> - 2024-12-26 22:09 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-26 13:37 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting wasabi <lotso@jollyroger.com> - 2024-12-28 14:33 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-28 14:36 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 17:43 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-28 14:47 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 17:55 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-28 15:55 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 19:00 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-28 16:02 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 20:30 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-28 19:02 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 22:07 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-28 19:42 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 22:48 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-28 19:53 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 23:04 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-28 20:07 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 23:16 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-28 21:53 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 14:09 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 11:21 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 14:34 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 11:37 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 14:47 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 12:15 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 15:22 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 12:42 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 16:08 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 16:40 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 19:59 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 17:10 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Jack Sovalot <hee-cawkforme@jack.sovalot> - 2024-12-30 04:09 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Red Zone <redzone@trump.com> - 2024-12-30 19:45 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-30 14:57 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-30 12:05 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-30 15:27 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2024-12-30 21:25 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2024-12-31 00:54 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-31 06:38 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Jack Sovalot <hee-cawkforme@jack.sovalot> - 2024-12-30 16:59 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-31 06:36 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-30 10:52 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 12:56 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 16:13 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 16:42 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 20:00 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 17:10 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 21:46 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 18:52 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 22:09 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 19:22 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 22:27 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-29 19:39 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-30 10:59 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-30 10:59 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-30 10:57 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-30 10:56 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-30 10:54 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-30 10:51 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-30 10:50 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-30 10:49 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-30 10:47 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-30 10:45 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-30 10:44 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Petry F." <petry_f@hushmail.com> - 2024-12-29 04:25 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-28 21:54 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-30 10:42 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-30 10:41 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-28 21:52 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2024-12-30 18:23 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-30 10:30 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-30 13:42 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-30 11:23 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-30 14:55 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-30 11:58 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-30 15:25 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-30 15:01 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-30 18:07 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-30 15:19 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-30 18:41 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-30 15:43 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-31 06:30 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-31 06:28 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-31 06:27 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-30 12:04 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-30 15:26 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-30 15:13 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-30 18:23 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-30 15:40 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-30 19:14 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-30 23:04 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-31 11:52 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Byrd <byrd@someoem.com> - 2025-01-02 03:02 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-01 21:08 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-01 18:44 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-01 22:01 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-01 22:12 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Rudy Ball <rudyball@gmx.com> - 2025-01-03 19:02 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-03 11:20 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-03 15:19 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-03 14:54 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-03 18:40 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-03 16:18 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-03 19:28 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-03 17:11 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-03 20:24 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-03 17:40 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-03 20:59 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-03 19:39 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 14:29 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-05 12:36 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 20:53 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-05 18:19 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 21:29 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-05 18:32 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 21:47 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-05 19:03 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 22:14 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-05 19:39 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 22:50 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-05 23:32 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2025-01-06 08:11 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Clint <clintb@infiniti.net> - 2025-01-13 00:36 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-01-13 09:16 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2025-01-06 08:11 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Rudy Johnson <rudyj@google.com> - 2025-01-21 14:06 -0800
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-01 07:31 -0500
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2024-12-29 01:30 +0100
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-28 16:03 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-26 08:39 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-25 19:24 -0500
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-21 09:35 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-20 20:17 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-20 17:18 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-20 20:30 -0500
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Gary M. Stewart <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2024-12-25 21:48 +0100
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 14:06 -0800
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                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 11:42 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 15:16 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 12:33 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 16:04 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 13:13 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 18:18 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 10:20 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-16 16:29 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 17:53 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-16 19:51 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 10:38 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 10:29 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 10:18 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 13:23 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 10:31 -0800
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 11:40 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-16 15:08 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 12:29 -0800
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                                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 13:30 -0800
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-17 10:28 -0800
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                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting hank <none@invalid.org> - 2024-12-16 00:02 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-16 09:06 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-14 18:21 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting hank <none@invalid.org> - 2024-12-15 23:06 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-15 15:41 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Duc Nguyen <dnguyen@somecorp.org> - 2024-12-15 19:10 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-15 22:50 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-15 22:42 -0800
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                                                                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-12-07 23:59 +0000
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                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Rudy Canoza <rc@thejollykone.con> - 2024-12-08 04:06 -0500
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                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting T. Walz <tampons4sale@dont-email.me> - 2024-12-08 12:41 +0100
                                                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-09 09:29 -0600
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                                                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-09 13:46 -0500
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                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-24 22:41 -0500
                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 23:13 -0500
                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 23:47 -0800
                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-25 06:59 -0500
                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-25 07:44 -0500
                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-25 08:18 -0500
                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-25 08:35 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-25 08:58 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-25 09:09 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-25 10:40 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-26 08:35 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-26 09:59 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-26 10:44 -0500
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                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-26 16:16 -0800
                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-26 19:46 -0500
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                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-24 22:40 -0500
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                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-26 14:38 -0800
                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-27 10:23 -0600
                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 16:00 -0500
                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 13:49 -0800
                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-25 15:22 -0600
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                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 10:39 -0800
                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 14:40 -0500
                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 12:21 -0800
                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 16:03 -0500
                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 13:50 -0800
                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 17:16 -0500
                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 17:30 -0500
                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 14:36 -0800
                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 17:45 -0500
                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 14:47 -0800
                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 18:09 -0500
                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 16:10 -0800
                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 19:23 -0500
                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 16:26 -0800
                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 16:34 -0800
                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 16:34 -0800
                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 19:52 -0500
                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 17:10 -0800
                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 20:36 -0500
                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 17:50 -0800
                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 21:21 -0500
                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 18:29 -0800
                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 21:48 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 18:53 -0800
                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-25 14:08 -0600
                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-25 08:02 -0500
                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-25 08:32 -0500
                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-25 10:44 -0500
                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-25 14:03 -0600
                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-25 13:59 -0600
                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 14:35 -0800
                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 17:44 -0500
                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 14:48 -0800
                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 18:10 -0500
                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 16:11 -0800
                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 19:24 -0500
                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 16:27 -0800
                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting 13 <thisemailisreal@gymgyno.org> - 2024-11-24 19:33 -0500
                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 16:27 -0800
                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 19:54 -0500
                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 17:11 -0800
                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 20:38 -0500
                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 17:50 -0800
                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 21:31 -0500
                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 18:33 -0800
                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 21:55 -0500
                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 18:57 -0800
                                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 22:17 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 19:32 -0800
                                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-06 19:28 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-12-09 10:01 -0600
                                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-25 15:14 -0600
                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-25 15:12 -0600
                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-25 15:07 -0600
                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-25 15:02 -0600
                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-25 15:02 -0600
                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-25 15:01 -0600
                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-24 22:45 -0500
                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2024-11-25 06:13 -0600
                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-25 15:18 -0600
                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2024-11-25 22:31 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-25 15:15 -0600
                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2024-11-25 22:27 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2024-11-26 06:12 -0600
                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-26 09:50 -0600
                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2024-11-26 15:55 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-26 15:46 -0500
                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-26 15:38 -0800
                                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-27 10:35 -0600
                                                                                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-27 10:35 -0600
                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-26 08:43 -0500
                                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-26 09:52 -0600
                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-25 14:59 -0600
                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting 13 <thisemailisreal@gymgyno.org> - 2024-11-24 19:33 -0500
                                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-25 14:30 -0600
                                                                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2024-11-25 22:25 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-26 08:42 -0500
                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2024-11-26 15:56 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-26 15:50 -0500
                                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-27 10:30 -0600
                                                                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-26 09:47 -0600
                                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-25 14:29 -0600
                                                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-25 14:29 -0600
                                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-25 14:27 -0600
                                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-25 13:56 -0600
                                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-25 13:53 -0600
                                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-25 13:51 -0600
                                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-25 11:35 -0600
                                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-25 11:22 -0600
                                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-25 11:19 -0600
                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-25 11:16 -0600
                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2024-11-23 15:27 -0600
                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2024-11-23 18:34 -0600
                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-25 13:23 -0600
                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2024-11-23 20:06 -0500
                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Mickey D <mickeydavis078XX@ptd.net> - 2024-11-23 21:18 -0500
                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-23 18:20 -0800
                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-25 13:12 -0600
                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-25 11:15 -0600
                                Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-26 15:36 -0800
                                  Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-26 18:56 -0500
                                    Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-26 16:01 -0800
                                      Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-26 19:15 -0500
                                        Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-26 16:19 -0800
                                          Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-26 19:49 -0500
                                            Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-26 18:17 -0800
                                              Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-27 08:27 -0500
                                                Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-27 09:53 -0800
                                                  Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-27 14:13 -0500
                                                    Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-27 11:29 -0800
                                                      Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-27 14:45 -0500
                                                        Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-27 15:12 -0500
                                                          Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-27 12:15 -0800
                                                            Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-27 15:44 -0500
                                                              Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-27 12:49 -0800
                                                                Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-27 16:21 -0500
                                                                  Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-27 16:02 -0800
                                                                    Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-27 19:14 -0500
                                                                      Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-28 14:00 -0800
                                                          Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-27 16:26 -0500
                                                            Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-27 16:52 -0500
                                                              Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-27 20:01 -0500
                                                                Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-28 10:01 -0500
                                                                  Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-28 10:36 -0500
                                                                    Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-28 10:44 -0500
                                                                      Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-28 14:28 -0500
                                                                        Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-28 14:36 -0500
                                                                          Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-28 15:58 -0500
                                                                      Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-28 14:08 -0800
                                                                  Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-28 14:03 -0800
                                                              Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-28 13:56 -0800
                                                                Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-28 19:10 -0500
                                                                  Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-28 16:21 -0800
                                                                    Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-28 19:52 -0500
                                                                      Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-28 19:08 -0800
                                                                        Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-28 22:24 -0500
                                                                          Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-28 19:38 -0800
                                                                            Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-28 23:03 -0500
                                                                              Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-28 20:33 -0800
                                                                                Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-29 00:24 -0500
                                                                                  Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-03 09:37 -0800
                                                                                    Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-03 13:46 -0500
                                                                                      Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-03 15:06 -0500
                                                                                        Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-03 17:07 -0500
                                                                                          Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-03 20:57 -0500
                                                                                            Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-03 21:05 -0500
                                                                                              Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-03 19:04 -0800
                                                                                                Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2024-12-03 20:07 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-03 21:42 -0800
                                                                                                Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-03 22:43 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-03 21:44 -0800
                                                                                                    Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-04 10:34 -0500
                                                                                              Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-04 00:01 -0500
                                                                        Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-29 12:50 -0500
                                                                          Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-29 17:29 -0500
                                                                            Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-30 07:02 -0500
                                                                              Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-30 14:20 -0500
                                                                                Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-30 14:35 -0500
                                                                                  Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-30 14:57 -0500
                                                                                    Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-30 19:29 -0500
                                                                                      Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-01 20:23 -0500
                                                                                        Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-03 09:39 -0800
                                                                                          Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-03 13:49 -0500
                                                                                        Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-04 16:30 -0500
                                                                                          Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-04 19:24 -0500
                                                                                            Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-05 11:11 -0500
                                                                                              Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-12-05 09:35 -0800
                                                                                                Re: Joel won't, so I will (was Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-05 18:56 -0500
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                                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-25 16:06 -0500
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                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-23 14:13 -0800
                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2024-11-23 22:36 +0000
                                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2024-11-23 23:42 +0000
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                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-23 18:18 -0800
                                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2024-11-24 02:52 +0000
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                                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-25 16:15 -0500
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                                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-25 14:41 -0800
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                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-23 19:31 -0500
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                                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-23 18:01 -0800
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                                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-23 18:20 -0800
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                              Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-23 20:25 -0500
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                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-23 13:58 -0500
                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-23 14:31 -0500
                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-23 21:51 -0500
                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2024-11-23 23:55 +0000
                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Bill Powell <bill@anarchists.org> - 2024-11-24 00:58 +0100
                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-11-23 21:52 -0500
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                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2024-11-23 14:13 -0600
                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting EndlessSept <pit@despair.org> - 2024-11-23 12:18 -0500
                Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-11-23 17:05 -0500
                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-23 14:14 -0800
                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-11-24 06:41 -0500
                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-24 09:31 -0800
                  Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-23 17:51 -0500
                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-23 15:01 -0800
                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Klaus  Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergent�ter.@gmail.com> - 2024-11-23 15:10 -0800
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                      Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-23 18:17 -0500
                        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-23 15:46 -0800
                          Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-11-23 19:17 -0500
                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-23 16:21 -0800
                            Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> - 2024-11-25 13:28 -0600
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                    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Klaus  Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergent�ter.@gmail.com> - 2024-11-23 15:09 -0800
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        Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-22 12:55 -0800
    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-11-22 17:10 +0100
    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-11-22 12:55 -0800
    Re: Bungling Apple Lost the Plot on Texting "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2024-11-23 09:10 -0800
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#144394

From-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
Date2024-11-25 08:43 -0500
Message-ID<vi1uun$2o90g$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#144389
On 11/25/24 7:46 AM, Joel wrote:
> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
> 
>> the braggadocio on having to go manually set up a capability
>> that mainstream OS users already have, and take for granted.
>>
>> To use an automotive analogy, its like he's bragging that he upgraded
>> his carb to have automatic choke ... not realizing that everyone else
>> looks at them, thinking: "there's still cars which have a manual choke?"
> 
> 
> I can't imagine how lazy people are, to pay so much for Apple's and
> higher-end OEMs' offerings.  

Some are buying for the actual high-end performance.  We've already seen 
how your claimed "high-end" PC isn't really so high end after all:

your CPU & Storage benchmarks are literally half of the Apple Studio 
that you've tried to compare your system against,

plus yesterday you revealed that you've already replaced the original 
video controller because it couldn't handle a single 4K display, whereas 
the Mac Studio you've been using to compare yourself to can handle five.


> Nor how they buy inferior hardware, to save money that way. 
> I want the best of both worlds - self-assembled.

Except that you actually haven't done that:

* you under-specced your video and have replaced it already;

* you over-specced your RAM, so you paid for it too early
   (if you'll ever actually need it).

It raises the question of just maybe perhaps the professionals at the 
OEMs are just slightly better at this stuff than you personally are. /s

-hh

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#144396

FromJoel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2024-11-25 08:59 -0500
Message-ID<aa09kjhd0a45oerejp8v1lq6d94ddkgfdr@4ax.com>
In reply to#144394
-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

>>> the braggadocio on having to go manually set up a capability
>>> that mainstream OS users already have, and take for granted.
>>>
>>> To use an automotive analogy, its like he's bragging that he upgraded
>>> his carb to have automatic choke ... not realizing that everyone else
>>> looks at them, thinking: "there's still cars which have a manual choke?"
>> 
>> I can't imagine how lazy people are, to pay so much for Apple's and
>> higher-end OEMs' offerings.  
>
>Some are buying for the actual high-end performance.  We've already seen 
>how your claimed "high-end" PC isn't really so high end after all:
>
>your CPU & Storage benchmarks are literally half of the Apple Studio 
>that you've tried to compare your system against,


I wasn't trying to compare the benchmarks.  I was comparing realized
value.  My computer's beginning to age, and yet because I'm running
Linux, this has no meaning to me.  It might as well still be brand
new.  Same thing with my Galaxy S21 phone, it's still as good as new
to me, I don't miss gimmicky features that an S24 would offer.


>plus yesterday you revealed that you've already replaced the original 
>video controller because it couldn't handle a single 4K display, whereas 
>the Mac Studio you've been using to compare yourself to can handle five.


I didn't have a "video controller", why do you keep saying that?  It
was just the CPU's video, which was great for 1080p, not for 4K.  Big
whoop, the cheap card I got is fine since I don't game.


>> Nor how they buy inferior hardware, to save money that way. 
>> I want the best of both worlds - self-assembled.
>
>Except that you actually haven't done that:
>
>* you under-specced your video and have replaced it already;
>
>* you over-specced your RAM, so you paid for it too early
>   (if you'll ever actually need it).


Just false.


>It raises the question of just maybe perhaps the professionals at the 
>OEMs are just slightly better at this stuff than you personally are. /s


Not remotely.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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#144398

From-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
Date2024-11-25 10:32 -0500
Message-ID<vi25ag$2qmb7$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#144396
On 11/25/24 8:59 AM, Joel wrote:
> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
> 
>>>> the braggadocio on having to go manually set up a capability
>>>> that mainstream OS users already have, and take for granted.
>>>>
>>>> To use an automotive analogy, its like he's bragging that he upgraded
>>>> his carb to have automatic choke ... not realizing that everyone else
>>>> looks at them, thinking: "there's still cars which have a manual choke?"
>>>
>>> I can't imagine how lazy people are, to pay so much for Apple's and
>>> higher-end OEMs' offerings.
>>
>> Some are buying for the actual high-end performance.  We've already seen
>> how your claimed "high-end" PC isn't really so high end after all:
>>
>> your CPU & Storage benchmarks are literally half of the Apple Studio
>> that you've tried to compare your system against,
> 
> 
> I wasn't trying to compare the benchmarks.  I was comparing realized
> value. 

Fine, but why did you then compare your system to one that's known to be 
vastly more capable?  Your "Apples vs Oranges" has become deliberate.


> My computer's beginning to age, and yet because I'm running
> Linux, this has no meaning to me.  It might as well still be brand
> new.  Same thing with my Galaxy S21 phone, it's still as good as new
> to me, I don't miss gimmicky features that an S24 would offer.


Oh, so its just barely 3 years old and you've already noticing that it 
is aging?  So just how sure are you now that its going to last as many 
years as you've been hoping it would without several more upgrades, even 
with Linux?  Keep in mind that you're already at over $1100 invested & 
counting.


>> plus yesterday you revealed that you've already replaced the original
>> video controller because it couldn't handle a single 4K display, whereas
>> the Mac Studio you've been using to compare yourself to can handle five.
> 
> 
> I didn't have a "video controller", why do you keep saying that? 

That its integral to the CPU doesn't mean that its not a video controller.


> It was just the CPU's video, which was great for 1080p, not for 4K.
> Big whoop, the cheap card I got is fine since I don't game.

Trailing edge of technology, which you've already paid to replace.  Good 
lifecycle management plan there!  /s


>>> Nor how they buy inferior hardware, to save money that way.
>>> I want the best of both worlds - self-assembled.
>>
>> Except that you actually haven't done that:
>>
>> * you under-specced your video and have replaced it already;
>>
>> * you over-specced your RAM, so you paid for it too early
>>    (if you'll ever actually need it).
> 
> 
> Just false.

You've already told us that you spent $100 to upgrade the video.

You've already told us that you spent some amount (I've assumed $50) to 
increase RAM to 32GB and that its currently not using any swap, which 
means that the extra RAM isn't being used at all.


>> It raises the question of just maybe perhaps the professionals at the
>> OEMs are just slightly better at this stuff than you personally are. /s
> 
> Not remotely.

In your dreams, unfortunately.  As I've already noted, you could have 
bought a Mac Mini for less & had comparable/better performing hardware.


-hh

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#144488

FromJoel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2024-11-26 08:32 -0500
Message-ID<94jbkjpb6dbu9453rl9eguaa64srlugpfr@4ax.com>
In reply to#144398
-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

>>> your CPU & Storage benchmarks are literally half of the Apple Studio
>>> that you've tried to compare your system against,
>> 
>> I wasn't trying to compare the benchmarks.  I was comparing realized
>> value. 
>
>Fine, but why did you then compare your system to one that's known to be 
>vastly more capable?  Your "Apples vs Oranges" has become deliberate.


I was comparing to an Apple device currently available, that it is
newer and faster didn't matter, because it was about initial price.


>> My computer's beginning to age, and yet because I'm running
>> Linux, this has no meaning to me.  It might as well still be brand
>> new.  Same thing with my Galaxy S21 phone, it's still as good as new
>> to me, I don't miss gimmicky features that an S24 would offer.
>
>Oh, so its just barely 3 years old and you've already noticing that it 
>is aging?


I did after 2 1/2 years with Win11, but I don't with Linux, no.


>  So just how sure are you now that its going to last as many 
>years as you've been hoping it would without several more upgrades, even 
>with Linux?  Keep in mind that you're already at over $1100 invested & 
>counting.


Nothing to indicate I'll need further upgrades, and your figure for
what I've put in seems higher than actual.


>>> plus yesterday you revealed that you've already replaced the original
>>> video controller because it couldn't handle a single 4K display, whereas
>>> the Mac Studio you've been using to compare yourself to can handle five.
>> 
>> I didn't have a "video controller", why do you keep saying that? 
>
>That its integral to the CPU doesn't mean that its not a video controller.
>
>> It was just the CPU's video, which was great for 1080p, not for 4K.
>> Big whoop, the cheap card I got is fine since I don't game.
>
>Trailing edge of technology, which you've already paid to replace.  Good 
>lifecycle management plan there!  /s


That is all nonsense, I liked the i5-10400 without regard to it
containing basic video, that was something convenient for my old
monitor, that I had to replace it with a card was no biggie.


>>>> Nor how they buy inferior hardware, to save money that way.
>>>> I want the best of both worlds - self-assembled.
>>>
>>> Except that you actually haven't done that:
>>>
>>> * you under-specced your video and have replaced it already;
>>>
>>> * you over-specced your RAM, so you paid for it too early
>>>    (if you'll ever actually need it).
>> 
>> Just false.
>
>You've already told us that you spent $100 to upgrade the video.
>
>You've already told us that you spent some amount (I've assumed $50) to 
>increase RAM to 32GB and that its currently not using any swap, which 
>means that the extra RAM isn't being used at all.


I regularly use 16 GB for main usage *plus* more for cache, I even
occasionally go slightly over the full 32 GB when both are factored
in, slightly using swap.  I *could* actually move to 48 or 64 GB, if I
were obsessed.


>>> It raises the question of just maybe perhaps the professionals at the
>>> OEMs are just slightly better at this stuff than you personally are. /s
>> 
>> Not remotely.
>
>In your dreams, unfortunately.  As I've already noted, you could have 
>bought a Mac Mini for less & had comparable/better performing hardware.


But it'd be running macOS. :)

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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#144493

From-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
Date2024-11-26 09:58 -0500
Message-ID<vi4nnh$3ere5$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#144488
On 11/26/24 8:32 AM, Joel wrote:
> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
> 
>>>> your CPU & Storage benchmarks are literally half of the Apple Studio
>>>> that you've tried to compare your system against,
>>>
>>> I wasn't trying to compare the benchmarks.  I was comparing realized
>>> value.
>>
>> Fine, but why did you then compare your system to one that's known to be
>> vastly more capable?  Your "Apples vs Oranges" has become deliberate.
> 
> I was comparing to an Apple device currently available, that it is
> newer and faster didn't matter, because it was about initial price.

You went upscale instead of choosing one comparable to your PC's i5.

That's like bragging that a Toyota Yaris is cheaper than a Porsche 911 
while pretending that no other cars exist in the marketplace.

>>> My computer's beginning to age, and yet because I'm running
>>> Linux, this has no meaning to me.  It might as well still be brand
>>> new.  Same thing with my Galaxy S21 phone, it's still as good as new
>>> to me, I don't miss gimmicky features that an S24 would offer.
>>
>> Oh, so its just barely 3 years old and you've already noticing that it
>> is aging?
> 
> I did after 2 1/2 years with Win11, but I don't with Linux, no.

What changed in your software/useage to have 'degraded' Windows?
I've used Windows for decades: the era of 'bitrot' was circa XP.

>>   So just how sure are you now that its going to last as many
>> years as you've been hoping it would without several more upgrades, even
>> with Linux?  Keep in mind that you're already at over $1100 invested &
>> counting.
> 
> Nothing to indicate I'll need further upgrades, and your figure for
> what I've put in seems higher than actual.

But nothing to indicate that you actually needed the upgrades that 
you've already paid for, especially RAM.

And for figure, the only one that isn't directly from what you provided 
is the cost of your +16GB RAM upgrade.  I estimated it was +$50 for 
which you've protested but not provided its actual cost....

...and since that +$50 isn't included in the "$1100 invested" statement 
above, you have zero basis to complain:  had my estimate for your RAM 
upgrade cost had been included, it would have said $1150.

>>>> plus yesterday you revealed that you've already replaced the original
>>>> video controller because it couldn't handle a single 4K display, whereas
>>>> the Mac Studio you've been using to compare yourself to can handle five.
>>>
>>> I didn't have a "video controller", why do you keep saying that?
>>
>> That its integral to the CPU doesn't mean that its not a video controller.
>>
>>> It was just the CPU's video, which was great for 1080p, not for 4K.
>>> Big whoop, the cheap card I got is fine since I don't game.
>>
>> Trailing edge of technology, which you've already paid to replace.  Good
>> lifecycle management plan there!  /s
> 
> That is all nonsense, I liked the i5-10400 without regard to it
> containing basic video, that was something convenient for my old
> monitor, that I had to replace it with a card was no biggie.

Which is you saying that you're not sensitive to a +10% cost increase.

With the prior insensitivity to your $200 Windows license part, you're 
at +$300 over, so you're not sensitive to +30% cost increases.

You're not being a particularly value conscious consumer in IRL 
practice:  so remind us again about why OEM markups are so 'evil'?  /s


>>>>> Nor how they buy inferior hardware, to save money that way.
>>>>> I want the best of both worlds - self-assembled.
>>>>
>>>> Except that you actually haven't done that:
>>>>
>>>> * you under-specced your video and have replaced it already;
>>>>
>>>> * you over-specced your RAM, so you paid for it too early
>>>>     (if you'll ever actually need it).
>>>
>>> Just false.
>>
>> You've already told us that you spent $100 to upgrade the video.
>>
>> You've already told us that you spent some amount (I've assumed $50) to
>> increase RAM to 32GB and that its currently not using any swap, which
>> means that the extra RAM isn't being used at all.
> 
> I regularly use 16 GB for main usage *plus* more for cache, I even
> occasionally go slightly over the full 32 GB when both are factored
> in, slightly using swap.  I *could* actually move to 48 or 64 GB, if I
> were obsessed.


Merely allocating doesn't mean that it actually gets used: what was your 
swap performance metric *before* you chose to drop money on a RAM 
upgrade?  Because without evidence of a performance degradation, you're 
again gratuitously spending your money to solve a non-problem.

>>>> It raises the question of just maybe perhaps the professionals at the
>>>> OEMs are just slightly better at this stuff than you personally are. /s
>>>
>>> Not remotely.
>>
>> In your dreams, unfortunately.  As I've already noted, you could have
>> bought a Mac Mini for less & had comparable/better performing hardware.
> 
> 
> But it'd be running macOS. :)
> 

Because no Mac ever has been able to run Linux?  Pull my other leg.
Now granted, there are some reports that there's not a great version of 
Linux for running on the M4 CPUs, but one can always run Linux in a VM 
under MacOS ... I've found that Windows11 does fine this way.

-hh

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#144495

FromJoel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2024-11-26 10:35 -0500
Message-ID<7cpbkj18m7dbovgrbouqjh55i3a88tu84p@4ax.com>
In reply to#144493
-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

>>>>> your CPU & Storage benchmarks are literally half of the Apple Studio
>>>>> that you've tried to compare your system against,
>>>>
>>>> I wasn't trying to compare the benchmarks.  I was comparing realized
>>>> value.
>>>
>>> Fine, but why did you then compare your system to one that's known to be
>>> vastly more capable?  Your "Apples vs Oranges" has become deliberate.
>> 
>> I was comparing to an Apple device currently available, that it is
>> newer and faster didn't matter, because it was about initial price.
>
>You went upscale instead of choosing one comparable to your PC's i5.
>
>That's like bragging that a Toyota Yaris is cheaper than a Porsche 911 
>while pretending that no other cars exist in the marketplace.


I bought good stuff relative to when I bought it and my needs.


>>>> My computer's beginning to age, and yet because I'm running
>>>> Linux, this has no meaning to me.  It might as well still be brand
>>>> new.  Same thing with my Galaxy S21 phone, it's still as good as new
>>>> to me, I don't miss gimmicky features that an S24 would offer.
>>>
>>> Oh, so its just barely 3 years old and you've already noticing that it
>>> is aging?
>> 
>> I did after 2 1/2 years with Win11, but I don't with Linux, no.
>
>What changed in your software/useage to have 'degraded' Windows?
>I've used Windows for decades: the era of 'bitrot' was circa XP.


It's just heavier demands on hardware.  M$ is not in the consumer's
interest.  Linux is.


>>>   So just how sure are you now that its going to last as many
>>> years as you've been hoping it would without several more upgrades, even
>>> with Linux?  Keep in mind that you're already at over $1100 invested &
>>> counting.
>> 
>> Nothing to indicate I'll need further upgrades, and your figure for
>> what I've put in seems higher than actual.
>
>But nothing to indicate that you actually needed the upgrades that 
>you've already paid for, especially RAM.


Wrong, my usage hits 16 GB *not* including cache right away.  32 GB is
a very reasonable amount to have.


>And for figure, the only one that isn't directly from what you provided 
>is the cost of your +16GB RAM upgrade.  I estimated it was +$50 for 
>which you've protested but not provided its actual cost....
>
>...and since that +$50 isn't included in the "$1100 invested" statement 
>above, you have zero basis to complain:  had my estimate for your RAM 
>upgrade cost had been included, it would have said $1150.


It's something like $50, yeah, no biggie, much like the cheap video
card.


>> I liked the i5-10400 without regard to it
>> containing basic video, that was something convenient for my old
>> monitor, that I had to replace it with a card was no biggie.
>
>Which is you saying that you're not sensitive to a +10% cost increase.
>
>With the prior insensitivity to your $200 Windows license part, you're 
>at +$300 over, so you're not sensitive to +30% cost increases.
>
>You're not being a particularly value conscious consumer in IRL 
>practice:  so remind us again about why OEM markups are so 'evil'?  /s


The problem is that to get what I have, you have to pay so much up
front, with Apple.  There's no question I got equally good components
for less.


>> I regularly use 16 GB for main usage *plus* more for cache, I even
>> occasionally go slightly over the full 32 GB when both are factored
>> in, slightly using swap.  I *could* actually move to 48 or 64 GB, if I
>> were obsessed.
>
>Merely allocating doesn't mean that it actually gets used: what was your 
>swap performance metric *before* you chose to drop money on a RAM 
>upgrade?  Because without evidence of a performance degradation, you're 
>again gratuitously spending your money to solve a non-problem.


I watch System Monitor, I see that my 32 GB approaches and even
slightly surpasses getting maxed out, including cache, leading to
minor use of swap.


>>>>> It raises the question of just maybe perhaps the professionals at the
>>>>> OEMs are just slightly better at this stuff than you personally are. /s
>>>>
>>>> Not remotely.
>>>
>>> In your dreams, unfortunately.  As I've already noted, you could have
>>> bought a Mac Mini for less & had comparable/better performing hardware.
>> 
>> But it'd be running macOS. :)
>
>Because no Mac ever has been able to run Linux?  Pull my other leg.
>Now granted, there are some reports that there's not a great version of 
>Linux for running on the M4 CPUs, but one can always run Linux in a VM 
>under MacOS ... I've found that Windows11 does fine this way.


I wouldn't buy Apple hardware to run something other than macOS.  That
it can isn't really a material point.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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#144497

FromJoel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2024-11-26 11:13 -0500
Message-ID<rosbkj196f9d8nf3krl56vbbamcgj02erh@4ax.com>
In reply to#144495
Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:

>my usage hits 16 GB *not* including cache right away


I would clarify, it's actually not quite that when I first boot up and
load everything, but approaching it.  It's more when I additionally
load LibreOffice Writer and GIMP, and the PDF viewer, yada yada, it
hits and exceeds 16 GB main RAM use.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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#144570

From"Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net>
Date2024-11-27 10:45 -0600
Message-ID<vi7ni2$45fk$7@dont-email.me>
In reply to#144497

"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:rosbkj196f9d8nf3krl56vbbamcgj02erh@4ax.com...
> Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>my usage hits 16 GB *not* including cache right away
>
>
> I would clarify, it's actually not quite that when I first boot up and
> load everything, but approaching it.  It's more when I additionally
> load LibreOffice Writer and GIMP, and the PDF viewer, yada yada, it
> hits and exceeds 16 GB main RAM use.

Really?

LibreOffice Writer - 256MB
GIMP - 4GB
PDF viewer - about 400MB
Win11 - 2GB-8GB

However, I would expect a "high end" system to have adequate memory when 
setup. Because even if we take the high end for Win11, you still have lots 
of overhead for ordinary programs. I would think a well educated builder 
putting together a "high end" system in the habit of having a lot of 
programs active would have allowed for that in his build at the start. Now 
you've had to either replace your memory or fill up your remaining slots 
because you failed to properly determine your hardware needs at the start. 

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#144559

From-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
Date2024-11-27 12:01 -0500
Message-ID<vi7j8c$25k2$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#144495
On 11/26/24 10:35 AM, Joel wrote:
> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
> 
>>>>>> your CPU & Storage benchmarks are literally half of the Apple Studio
>>>>>> that you've tried to compare your system against,
>>>>>
>>>>> I wasn't trying to compare the benchmarks.  I was comparing realized
>>>>> value.
>>>>
>>>> Fine, but why did you then compare your system to one that's known to be
>>>> vastly more capable?  Your "Apples vs Oranges" has become deliberate.
>>>
>>> I was comparing to an Apple device currently available, that it is
>>> newer and faster didn't matter, because it was about initial price.
>>
>> You went upscale instead of choosing one comparable to your PC's i5.
>>
>> That's like bragging that a Toyota Yaris is cheaper than a Porsche 911
>> while pretending that no other cars exist in the marketplace.
> 
> I bought good stuff relative to when I bought it and my needs.

Except for how you claimed to have promptly had to upgrade your video, 
showing that you didn't really buy "good" stuff:  you bought marginal 
gear which per your claim didn't even support 'state of the shelf'.

>>>>> My computer's beginning to age, and yet because I'm running
>>>>> Linux, this has no meaning to me.  It might as well still be brand
>>>>> new.  Same thing with my Galaxy S21 phone, it's still as good as new
>>>>> to me, I don't miss gimmicky features that an S24 would offer.
>>>>
>>>> Oh, so its just barely 3 years old and you've already noticing that it
>>>> is aging?
>>>
>>> I did after 2 1/2 years with Win11, but I don't with Linux, no.
>>
>> What changed in your software/useage to have 'degraded' Windows?
>> I've used Windows for decades: the era of 'bitrot' was circa XP.
>  
> It's just heavier demands on hardware. 

Which was more of doing what?  Games?  Computational Fluid Dynamics?

> M$ is not in the consumer's interest.  Linux is.

With a ~65% market share, how is MS not clearly consumers' #1 choice?

>>>> So just how sure are you now that its going to last as many years
>>>> as you've been hoping it would without several more upgrades, even
>>>> with Linux?  Keep in mind that you're already at over $1100 invested
>>>> & counting.
>>>
>>> Nothing to indicate I'll need further upgrades, and your figure for
>>> what I've put in seems higher than actual.
>>
>> But nothing to indicate that you actually needed the upgrades that
>> you've already paid for, especially RAM. 
> 
> Wrong, my usage hits 16 GB *not* including cache right away.  32 GB is
> a very reasonable amount to have.

You sure that it didn't hit 16GB because you set up the 16GB cache?
Change to a 4GB cache and tell us what amount it says its usage hits.

>> And for figure, the only one that isn't directly from what you provided
>> is the cost of your +16GB RAM upgrade.  I estimated it was +$50 for
>> which you've protested but not provided its actual cost....
>>
>> ...and since that +$50 isn't included in the "$1100 invested" statement
>> above, you have zero basis to complain:  had my estimate for your RAM
>> upgrade cost had been included, it would have said $1150.
> 
> It's something like $50, yeah, no biggie, much like the cheap video
> card.

But it still all adds up.  As has been already noted, you've overpaid by 
a good 30% while getting less capability overall.


>>> I liked the i5-10400 without regard to it containing 
>>> basic video, that was something convenient for my old
>>> monitor, that I had to replace it with a card was no biggie.
>>
>> Which is you saying that you're not sensitive to a +10% cost increase.
>>
>> With the prior insensitivity to your $200 Windows license part, you're
>> at +$300 over, so you're not sensitive to +30% cost increases.
>>
>> You're not being a particularly value conscious consumer in IRL
>> practice:  so remind us again about why OEM markups are so 'evil'?  /s
> 
> The problem is that to get what I have, you have to pay so much up
> front, with Apple.  There's no question I got equally good components
> for less.

That claim has already been shown to be untrue, for your CPU & SSD 
bandwidths (& perhaps RAM too) are literally half, while you paid more.


>>> I regularly use 16 GB for main usage *plus* more for cache, I even
>>> occasionally go slightly over the full 32 GB when both are factored
>>> in, slightly using swap.  I *could* actually move to 48 or 64 GB, if I
>>> were obsessed.
>>
>> Merely allocating doesn't mean that it actually gets used: what was your
>> swap performance metric *before* you chose to drop money on a RAM
>> upgrade?  Because without evidence of a performance degradation, you're
>> again gratuitously spending your money to solve a non-problem.
> 
> 
> I watch System Monitor, I see that my 32 GB approaches and even
> slightly surpasses getting maxed out, including cache, leading to
> minor use of swap.

Modern OSs are designed to use all of the available hardware RAM, which 
makes the old method of looking at just usage effectively obsolete.


>>>>>> It raises the question of just maybe perhaps the professionals at the
>>>>>> OEMs are just slightly better at this stuff than you personally are. /s
>>>>>
>>>>> Not remotely.
>>>>
>>>> In your dreams, unfortunately.  As I've already noted, you could have
>>>> bought a Mac Mini for less & had comparable/better performing hardware.
>>>
>>> But it'd be running macOS. :)
>>
>> Because no Mac ever has been able to run Linux?  Pull my other leg.
>> Now granted, there are some reports that there's not a great version of
>> Linux for running on the M4 CPUs, but one can always run Linux in a VM
>> under MacOS ... I've found that Windows11 does fine this way.
> 
> I wouldn't buy Apple hardware to run something other than macOS.  That
> it can isn't really a material point.

Avoidance, which is even if you don't want to run MacOS, the opportunity 
that you spurned to get better hardware at a lower price.


-hh

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#144562

FromJoel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2024-11-27 12:32 -0500
Message-ID<c6lekjpcdl81hef5f8lktrm56c5hna8tmm@4ax.com>
In reply to#144559
-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

>> I bought good stuff relative to when I bought it and my needs.
>
>Except for how you claimed to have promptly had to upgrade your video, 
>showing that you didn't really buy "good" stuff:  you bought marginal 
>gear which per your claim didn't even support 'state of the shelf'.


The CPU's video is incidental to having a CPU.  The NVIDIA card is an
add-on that was something I'd considered as a possibility all along.
WTF are you harping on that for?


>>>>>> My computer's beginning to age, and yet because I'm running
>>>>>> Linux, this has no meaning to me.  It might as well still be brand
>>>>>> new.  Same thing with my Galaxy S21 phone, it's still as good as new
>>>>>> to me, I don't miss gimmicky features that an S24 would offer.
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh, so its just barely 3 years old and you've already noticing that it
>>>>> is aging?
>>>>
>>>> I did after 2 1/2 years with Win11, but I don't with Linux, no.
>>>
>>> What changed in your software/useage to have 'degraded' Windows?
>>> I've used Windows for decades: the era of 'bitrot' was circa XP.
>>  
>> It's just heavier demands on hardware. 
>
>Which was more of doing what?  Games?  Computational Fluid Dynamics?


Just existing, M$ steals CPU cycles.


>> M$ is not in the consumer's interest.  Linux is.
>
>With a ~65% market share, how is MS not clearly consumers' #1 choice?


It goes to show how much they know.


>>> nothing to indicate that you actually needed the upgrades that
>>> you've already paid for, especially RAM. 
>> 
>> Wrong, my usage hits 16 GB *not* including cache right away.  32 GB is
>> a very reasonable amount to have.
>
>You sure that it didn't hit 16GB because you set up the 16GB cache?
>Change to a 4GB cache and tell us what amount it says its usage hits.


I didn't mess with anything of that nature, I just let the OS work.


>>> And for figure, the only one that isn't directly from what you provided
>>> is the cost of your +16GB RAM upgrade.  I estimated it was +$50 for
>>> which you've protested but not provided its actual cost....
>>>
>>> ...and since that +$50 isn't included in the "$1100 invested" statement
>>> above, you have zero basis to complain:  had my estimate for your RAM
>>> upgrade cost had been included, it would have said $1150.
>> 
>> It's something like $50, yeah, no biggie, much like the cheap video
>> card.
>
>But it still all adds up.  As has been already noted, you've overpaid by 
>a good 30% while getting less capability overall.


Not in the least, I got good prices at the times I purchased the gear,
it adds up to a great value, long-lasting with Linux, unlike Winblows
11.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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#144584

From"Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net>
Date2024-11-27 12:45 -0600
Message-ID<vi7pcf$4gp5$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#144562

"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:c6lekjpcdl81hef5f8lktrm56c5hna8tmm@4ax.com...
> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>
>>> I bought good stuff relative to when I bought it and my needs.
>>
>>Except for how you claimed to have promptly had to upgrade your video,
>>showing that you didn't really buy "good" stuff:  you bought marginal
>>gear which per your claim didn't even support 'state of the shelf'.
>
>
> The CPU's video is incidental to having a CPU.

not when the video is integrated and you expect to use that integrated 
video.

> The NVIDIA card is an
> add-on that was something I'd considered as a possibility all along.

But apparently not enough to get one until the hardware you paid for in your 
"high end" system provided, or rather you claim, was inadequate.


> WTF are you harping on that for?

Shows your poor decisions.

>>>>>>> My computer's beginning to age, and yet because I'm running
>>>>>>> Linux, this has no meaning to me.  It might as well still be brand
>>>>>>> new.  Same thing with my Galaxy S21 phone, it's still as good as new
>>>>>>> to me, I don't miss gimmicky features that an S24 would offer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh, so its just barely 3 years old and you've already noticing that 
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> is aging?
>>>>>
>>>>> I did after 2 1/2 years with Win11, but I don't with Linux, no.
>>>>
>>>> What changed in your software/useage to have 'degraded' Windows?
>>>> I've used Windows for decades: the era of 'bitrot' was circa XP.
>>>
>>> It's just heavier demands on hardware.
>>
>>Which was more of doing what?  Games?  Computational Fluid Dynamics?
>
>
> Just existing, M$ steals CPU cycles.

Any operating system does. Otherwise, it won't work.

You think Linux doesn't use CPU time?

>
>>> M$ is not in the consumer's interest.  Linux is.
>>
>>With a ~65% market share, how is MS not clearly consumers' #1 choice?
>
>
> It goes to show how much they know.

It certainly does.. while linux is, what, about 3%?

>>>> nothing to indicate that you actually needed the upgrades that
>>>> you've already paid for, especially RAM.
>>>
>>> Wrong, my usage hits 16 GB *not* including cache right away.  32 GB is
>>> a very reasonable amount to have.
>>
>>You sure that it didn't hit 16GB because you set up the 16GB cache?
>>Change to a 4GB cache and tell us what amount it says its usage hits.
>
>
> I didn't mess with anything of that nature, I just let the OS work.

So you didn't actually set up such a cache, much less expand it, because you 
don't mess with anything of that nature.

LOL.. So how did you know you needed more?



>>>> And for figure, the only one that isn't directly from what you provided
>>>> is the cost of your +16GB RAM upgrade.  I estimated it was +$50 for
>>>> which you've protested but not provided its actual cost....
>>>>
>>>> ...and since that +$50 isn't included in the "$1100 invested" statement
>>>> above, you have zero basis to complain:  had my estimate for your RAM
>>>> upgrade cost had been included, it would have said $1150.
>>>
>>> It's something like $50, yeah, no biggie, much like the cheap video
>>> card.
>>
>>But it still all adds up.  As has been already noted, you've overpaid by
>>a good 30% while getting less capability overall.
>
>
> Not in the least, I got good prices at the times I purchased the gear,

Apparently not when you paid more to get less capable hardware.


> it adds up to a great value, long-lasting with Linux, unlike Winblows
> 11.

That's amusing given my hardware mostly predates Win11 and totally rocks 
under Win11.. and cost less than yours.

 

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#144585

From-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
Date2024-11-27 13:50 -0500
Message-ID<vi7pm7$3slt$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#144562
On 11/27/24 12:32 PM, Joel wrote:
> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
> 
>>> I bought good stuff relative to when I bought it and my needs.
>>
>> Except for how you claimed to have promptly had to upgrade your video,
>> showing that you didn't really buy "good" stuff:  you bought marginal
>> gear which per your claim didn't even support 'state of the shelf'.
> 
> The CPU's video is incidental to having a CPU.  The NVIDIA card is an
> add-on that was something I'd considered as a possibility all along.
> WTF are you harping on that for?

It would be incidental if you hadn't ended up paying twice for video.

>>>>>>> My computer's beginning to age, and yet because I'm running
>>>>>>> Linux, this has no meaning to me.  It might as well still be brand
>>>>>>> new.  Same thing with my Galaxy S21 phone, it's still as good as new
>>>>>>> to me, I don't miss gimmicky features that an S24 would offer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh, so its just barely 3 years old and you've already noticing that it
>>>>>> is aging?
>>>>>
>>>>> I did after 2 1/2 years with Win11, but I don't with Linux, no.
>>>>
>>>> What changed in your software/useage to have 'degraded' Windows?
>>>> I've used Windows for decades: the era of 'bitrot' was circa XP.
>>>   
>>> It's just heavier demands on hardware.
>>
>> Which was more of doing what?  Games?  Computational Fluid Dynamics?
> 
> Just existing, M$ steals CPU cycles.

If that were true, then why didn't you know enough to know that the 
system was inadequate on initial setup & returned it all for a refund?

>>> M$ is not in the consumer's interest.  Linux is.
>>
>> With a ~65% market share, how is MS not clearly consumers' #1 choice? 
> 
> It goes to show how much they know.

The combined knowledge of three people is more than what you know...

>>>> nothing to indicate that you actually needed the upgrades that
>>>> you've already paid for, especially RAM.
>>>
>>> Wrong, my usage hits 16 GB *not* including cache right away.  32 GB is
>>> a very reasonable amount to have.
>>
>> You sure that it didn't hit 16GB because you set up the 16GB cache?
>> Change to a 4GB cache and tell us what amount it says its usage hits.
> 
> I didn't mess with anything of that nature, I just let the OS work.

Except for how that claim contradicts what you've previously said.

>>>> And for figure, the only one that isn't directly from what you provided
>>>> is the cost of your +16GB RAM upgrade.  I estimated it was +$50 for
>>>> which you've protested but not provided its actual cost....
>>>>
>>>> ...and since that +$50 isn't included in the "$1100 invested" statement
>>>> above, you have zero basis to complain:  had my estimate for your RAM
>>>> upgrade cost had been included, it would have said $1150.
>>>
>>> It's something like $50, yeah, no biggie, much like the cheap video
>>> card.
>>
>> But it still all adds up.  As has been already noted, you've overpaid by
>> a good 30% while getting less capability overall.
> 
> Not in the least, I got good prices at the times I purchased the gear,
> it adds up to a great value, long-lasting with Linux, unlike Winblows
> 11.

Because your costs to date of $1150 is less than a $600 mini before it 
may have been optioned-up?  Nope.

Nor even your initial spend of $1000 before your later upgrades.

FWIW, a bare bones stripped M1 mini is a fine persona computer.
And the current M4 generation is a pretty damn great one.


-hh

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#144587

FromJoel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2024-11-27 14:19 -0500
Message-ID<k1sekjlmm1sjl9nk5hdfob5meh1hmpa3hm@4ax.com>
In reply to#144585
-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

>>>> I bought good stuff relative to when I bought it and my needs.
>>>
>>> Except for how you claimed to have promptly had to upgrade your video,
>>> showing that you didn't really buy "good" stuff:  you bought marginal
>>> gear which per your claim didn't even support 'state of the shelf'.
>> 
>> The CPU's video is incidental to having a CPU.  The NVIDIA card is an
>> add-on that was something I'd considered as a possibility all along.
>> WTF are you harping on that for?
>
>It would be incidental if you hadn't ended up paying twice for video.


Uh, I didn't.  The NVIDIA card is the only card I've put in, in the
lifetime of the machine.


>>>> M$ is not in the consumer's interest.  Linux is.
>>>
>>> With a ~65% market share, how is MS not clearly consumers' #1 choice? 
>> 
>> It goes to show how much they know.
>
>The combined knowledge of three people is more than what you know...


Doubtful, I'm an expert, having used and observed the hardware and
software in recent years.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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#144590

From-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
Date2024-11-27 14:32 -0500
Message-ID<vi7s3i$3slt$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#144587
On 11/27/24 2:19 PM, Joel wrote:
> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
> 
>>>>> I bought good stuff relative to when I bought it and my needs.
>>>>
>>>> Except for how you claimed to have promptly had to upgrade your video,
>>>> showing that you didn't really buy "good" stuff:  you bought marginal
>>>> gear which per your claim didn't even support 'state of the shelf'.
>>>
>>> The CPU's video is incidental to having a CPU.  The NVIDIA card is an
>>> add-on that was something I'd considered as a possibility all along.
>>> WTF are you harping on that for?
>>
>> It would be incidental if you hadn't ended up paying twice for video.
> 
> 
> Uh, I didn't.  The NVIDIA card is the only card I've put in, in the
> lifetime of the machine.

Incorrect:  your first video controller was the one that came integrated 
into your i5 (the "F" version is cheaper & comes without) which you paid 
for.  That makes the NVIDIA card you bought later the second one.


>>>>> M$ is not in the consumer's interest.  Linux is.
>>>>
>>>> With a ~65% market share, how is MS not clearly consumers' #1 choice?
>>>
>>> It goes to show how much they know.
>>
>> The combined knowledge of three people is more than what you know...
> 
> 
> Doubtful, I'm an expert, having used and observed the hardware and
> software in recent years.

Not in this you're not, for you've shown us that you've spent 30% more 
(that we know of) than you had to for your capability.

-hh

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#144594

FromJoel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2024-11-27 15:05 -0500
Message-ID<enuekj17nd4h75dqpejg8d5rbntjet1rrv@4ax.com>
In reply to#144590
-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

>>>> The CPU's video is incidental to having a CPU.  The NVIDIA card is an
>>>> add-on that was something I'd considered as a possibility all along.
>>>> WTF are you harping on that for?
>>>
>>> It would be incidental if you hadn't ended up paying twice for video.
>> 
>> Uh, I didn't.  The NVIDIA card is the only card I've put in, in the
>> lifetime of the machine.
>
>Incorrect:  your first video controller was the one that came integrated 
>into your i5 (the "F" version is cheaper & comes without) which you paid 
>for.  That makes the NVIDIA card you bought later the second one.


???  Are you on acid?  I didn't even consider buying a different
version of the CPU.  Never even occurred to me in any respect.  I had
seen a Linux OEM offering a prefab machine with the i5-10400, and
began the process of designing my box with that chip, not even
realizing there was a non-video-containing version.


>>>>>> M$ is not in the consumer's interest.  Linux is.
>>>>>
>>>>> With a ~65% market share, how is MS not clearly consumers' #1 choice?
>>>>
>>>> It goes to show how much they know.
>>>
>>> The combined knowledge of three people is more than what you know...
>> 
>> Doubtful, I'm an expert, having used and observed the hardware and
>> software in recent years.
>
>Not in this you're not, for you've shown us that you've spent 30% more 
>(that we know of) than you had to for your capability.


I got a great deal, period.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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#144600

FromAlan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date2024-11-27 12:28 -0800
Message-ID<vi7vdj$5eol$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#144594
On 2024-11-27 12:05, Joel wrote:
> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
> 
>>>>> The CPU's video is incidental to having a CPU.  The NVIDIA card is an
>>>>> add-on that was something I'd considered as a possibility all along.
>>>>> WTF are you harping on that for?
>>>>
>>>> It would be incidental if you hadn't ended up paying twice for video.
>>>
>>> Uh, I didn't.  The NVIDIA card is the only card I've put in, in the
>>> lifetime of the machine.
>>
>> Incorrect:  your first video controller was the one that came integrated
>> into your i5 (the "F" version is cheaper & comes without) which you paid
>> for.  That makes the NVIDIA card you bought later the second one.
> 
> 
> ???  Are you on acid?  I didn't even consider buying a different
> version of the CPU.  Never even occurred to me in any respect.  I had
> seen a Linux OEM offering a prefab machine with the i5-10400, and
> began the process of designing my box with that chip, not even
> realizing there was a non-video-containing version.

So you're not as expert as you claim...

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#144608

FromJoel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2024-11-27 15:54 -0500
Message-ID<ok1fkjtk55jf6v555bch0rb0un87nps351@4ax.com>
In reply to#144600
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

>> I didn't even consider buying a different
>> version of the [Intel i5-10400] CPU.  Never even occurred to me in any respect.  I had
>> seen a Linux OEM offering a prefab machine with the i5-10400, and
>> began the process of designing my box with that chip, not even
>> realizing there was a non-video-containing version.
>
>So you're not as expert as you claim...


At the time, I was rusty.  It'd been 10 years and counting, since my
last build.  I wasn't used to the idea of video being integrated in
the CPU.  But I liked the idea, since I could put off the possibility
of investing in a discrete card.  How is that a failure?  By the time
I bought the card I did, I got a great value.  It all fell into place.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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#144625

FromAlan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date2024-11-27 15:58 -0800
Message-ID<vi8bo2$7jug$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#144608
On 2024-11-27 12:54, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> 
>>> I didn't even consider buying a different
>>> version of the [Intel i5-10400] CPU.  Never even occurred to me in any respect.  I had
>>> seen a Linux OEM offering a prefab machine with the i5-10400, and
>>> began the process of designing my box with that chip, not even
>>> realizing there was a non-video-containing version.
>>
>> So you're not as expert as you claim...
> 
> 
> At the time, I was rusty.  It'd been 10 years and counting, since my
> last build.  I wasn't used to the idea of video being integrated in
> the CPU.  But I liked the idea, since I could put off the possibility
> of investing in a discrete card.  How is that a failure?  By the time
> I bought the card I did, I got a great value.  It all fell into place.
> 

Well, you do appear to be very expert...

...at excuses.

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#144748

From"Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net>
Date2024-12-02 11:25 -0600
Message-ID<viktk5$3g7r2$10@dont-email.me>
In reply to#144625

"Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in message 
news:vi8bo2$7jug$1@dont-email.me...
> On 2024-11-27 12:54, Joel wrote:
>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> I didn't even consider buying a different
>>>> version of the [Intel i5-10400] CPU.  Never even occurred to me in any 
>>>> respect.  I had
>>>> seen a Linux OEM offering a prefab machine with the i5-10400, and
>>>> began the process of designing my box with that chip, not even
>>>> realizing there was a non-video-containing version.
>>>
>>> So you're not as expert as you claim...
>>
>>
>> At the time, I was rusty.  It'd been 10 years and counting, since my
>> last build.  I wasn't used to the idea of video being integrated in
>> the CPU.  But I liked the idea, since I could put off the possibility
>> of investing in a discrete card.  How is that a failure?  By the time
>> I bought the card I did, I got a great value.  It all fell into place.
>>
>
> Well, you do appear to be very expert...
>
> ...at excuses.

BOOM! 

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#144757

FromJoel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2024-12-02 14:16 -0500
Message-ID<0r1skjpj9c2eu27cn59mefl02e3plkq6k4@4ax.com>
In reply to#144748
"Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>"Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in message 
>news:vi8bo2$7jug$1@dont-email.me...
>> On 2024-11-27 12:54, Joel wrote:
>>
>> Well, you do appear to be very expert...
>>
>> ...at excuses.
>
>BOOM! 


What's your excuse for claiming elite status with Win7?

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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