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  Switching off a Samsung phone Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2024-11-27 05:18 +0200
    Re: Switching off a Samsung phone Larry Wolff <larrywolff@larrywolff.net> - 2024-11-26 23:53 -0500
      Re: Switching off a Samsung phone Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2024-11-27 07:24 +0200
        Re: Switching off a Samsung phone Larry Wolff <larrywolff@larrywolff.net> - 2024-11-27 12:29 -0500
          Re: Switching off a Samsung phone "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-11-27 22:08 +0100
            Re: Switching off a Samsung phone Larry Wolff <larrywolff@larrywolff.net> - 2024-11-28 00:18 -0500
    Re: Switching off a Samsung phone Ralph Fox <-rf-nz-@-.invalid> - 2024-11-27 18:08 +1300
      Re: Switching off a Samsung phone Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2024-11-27 07:39 +0200
      Re: Switching off a Samsung phone micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2024-11-27 11:44 -0500
        Re: Switching off a Samsung phone Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-11-27 22:20 +0100
    Re: Switching off a Samsung phone Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-11-27 09:21 +0000
      Re: Switching off a Samsung phone micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2024-11-27 11:45 -0500
      Re: Switching off a Samsung phone Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-11-27 22:22 +0100
    Re: Switching off a Samsung phone micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2024-11-27 11:42 -0500
      Re: Switching off a Samsung phone knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2024-11-27 12:28 -0500
        Re: Switching off a Samsung phone Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2024-11-27 18:31 +0000
      Re: Switching off a Samsung phone David Oseas <doseas{nospam}@usa.net> - 2024-11-27 09:45 -0800
        Re: Switching off a Samsung phone Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-11-27 22:25 +0100
          Re: Switching off a Samsung phone David Oseas <doseas{nospam}@usa.net> - 2024-11-28 10:00 -0800
            Re: Switching off a Samsung phone Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-11-28 19:08 +0100
              Re: Switching off a Samsung phone "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-11-29 01:22 +0100
                Re: Switching off a Samsung phone Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-11-29 07:19 +0100
    Re: Switching off a Samsung phone Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-11-27 18:29 +0000
      Re: Switching off a Samsung phone Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2024-11-28 04:58 +0200
    Re: Switching off a Samsung phone micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2024-11-28 19:14 -0500

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#144543 — Switching off a Samsung phone

Three days ago my Samsung phone froze, and yould not respond to any
input from the touch screen.

In the past when such a thing has happened I've found that it can be
cured by taking out the battery and rebooting. 

But with this particular Samsung model one cannot remove the battery
without special tools. 

Would it have the same effect if I wait a few days for the battery to
go flat, and then try to charge it and restart it?

Has anyone else foudn a way to switch off and restart a phone when the
touch screen doesn't respond and you can't remove the battery?




-- 
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
Web:  http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk

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#144544

On 11/26/2024 10:18 PM, Steve Hayes wrote:

> Has anyone else foudn a way to switch off and restart a phone when the
> touch screen doesn't respond and you can't remove the battery?

Did you previously turn on USB debugging in Developer options?

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#144546

On Tue, 26 Nov 2024 23:53:51 -0500, Larry Wolff
<larrywolff@larrywolff.net> wrote:

>On 11/26/2024 10:18 PM, Steve Hayes wrote:
>
>> Has anyone else foudn a way to switch off and restart a phone when the
>> touch screen doesn't respond and you can't remove the battery?
>
>Did you previously turn on USB debugging in Developer options?

Not to my knowledge. 


-- 
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
Web:  http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk

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#144561

On 11/26/2024 9:24 PM, Steve Hayes wrote:

>>On 11/26/2024 10:18 PM, Steve Hayes wrote:
>>
>>> Has anyone else foudn a way to switch off and restart a phone when the
>>> touch screen doesn't respond and you can't remove the battery?
>>
>>Did you previously turn on USB debugging in Developer options?
> 
> Not to my knowledge.

Next time, before a phone screen becomes unresponsive, turn on Developer
options USB debugging so that you can interact with the phone from a PC.

You don't need the screen to respond if you had USB debugging turned on.

The PC can do anything you want to the phone over the USB cable then.

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#144610

On 2024-11-27 18:29, Larry Wolff wrote:
> On 11/26/2024 9:24 PM, Steve Hayes wrote:
> 
>>> On 11/26/2024 10:18 PM, Steve Hayes wrote:
>>>
>>>> Has anyone else foudn a way to switch off and restart a phone when the
>>>> touch screen doesn't respond and you can't remove the battery?
>>>
>>> Did you previously turn on USB debugging in Developer options?
>>
>> Not to my knowledge.
> 
> Next time, before a phone screen becomes unresponsive, turn on Developer
> options USB debugging so that you can interact with the phone from a PC.
> 
> You don't need the screen to respond if you had USB debugging turned on.
> 
> The PC can do anything you want to the phone over the USB cable then.

Which is something very dangerous, if any random PC can take control of 
a phone.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#144634

On 11/27/2024 2:08 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:

> Which is something very dangerous, if any random PC can take control of 
> a phone.

https://chaitanyaduse.medium.com/usb-debugging-adb-a1400a9c34bf
USB Debugging Activation in Mobile Application Security 
Significant or not ?
https://github.com/ChaitanyaDuse/SecureAndroidApp/tree/usb-debugging-check

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#144545

On Wed, 27 Nov 2024 05:18:23 +0200, Steve Hayes wrote:

> Three days ago my Samsung phone froze, and yould not respond to any
> input from the touch screen.
> 
> In the past when such a thing has happened I've found that it can be
> cured by taking out the battery and rebooting. 
> 
> But with this particular Samsung model one cannot remove the battery
> without special tools. 
> 
> Would it have the same effect if I wait a few days for the battery to
> go flat, and then try to charge it and restart it?
> 
> Has anyone else foudn a way to switch off and restart a phone when the
> touch screen doesn't respond and you can't remove the battery?


Mr. Google says to try these:

1.  <https://www.samsung.com/uk/support/mobile-devices/my-galaxy-smartphone-has-frozen-how-do-i-restart-it/>

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ QUOTE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Samsung phone frozen - how to soft reset or hard reboot

    If your device is frozen and unresponsive, press and hold the
    Power button and the Volume down button down simultaneously for
    more than 7 seconds to restart it. When your phone resets, you
    will feel it vibrate.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ QUOTE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


2.  <https://www.asurion.com/connect/tech-tips/samsung-galaxy-touch-screen-not-working/>

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ QUOTE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Restart your Samsung Galaxy

    It almost sounds too simple, but restarting your Samsung Galaxy
    can sometimes fix your touch screen by clearing out what's
    causing the issue. Here's how to do it:
    1.  With your phone on, press and hold the Power button and
        Volume Down button for 10+ seconds. On Samsung phones
        without a dedicated Power key, press and hold the Volume
        Down key and Side key for 10+ seconds.
    2.  Hold until the Samsung Galaxy logo appears.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ QUOTE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


3.  <https://drfone.wondershare.com/samsung/turn-off-samsung-phone-without-touch-screen.html>

4.  <https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=restart+samsung+phone+without+screen>


-- 
Kind regards
Ralph Fox
🦊️

Sure bind sure find.

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#144547

On Wed, 27 Nov 2024 18:08:10 +1300, Ralph Fox <-rf-nz-@-.invalid>
wrote:

>On Wed, 27 Nov 2024 05:18:23 +0200, Steve Hayes wrote:
>
>> Three days ago my Samsung phone froze, and yould not respond to any
>> input from the touch screen.
>> 
>> In the past when such a thing has happened I've found that it can be
>> cured by taking out the battery and rebooting. 
>> 
>> But with this particular Samsung model one cannot remove the battery
>> without special tools. 
>> 
>> Would it have the same effect if I wait a few days for the battery to
>> go flat, and then try to charge it and restart it?
>> 
>> Has anyone else foudn a way to switch off and restart a phone when the
>> touch screen doesn't respond and you can't remove the battery?
>
>
>Mr. Google says to try these:
>
>1.  <https://www.samsung.com/uk/support/mobile-devices/my-galaxy-smartphone-has-frozen-how-do-i-restart-it/>
>
>    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ QUOTE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>    Samsung phone frozen - how to soft reset or hard reboot
>
>    If your device is frozen and unresponsive, press and hold the
>    Power button and the Volume down button down simultaneously for
>    more than 7 seconds to restart it. When your phone resets, you
>    will feel it vibrate.
>    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ QUOTE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
>2.  <https://www.asurion.com/connect/tech-tips/samsung-galaxy-touch-screen-not-working/>
>
>    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ QUOTE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>    Restart your Samsung Galaxy
>
>    It almost sounds too simple, but restarting your Samsung Galaxy
>    can sometimes fix your touch screen by clearing out what's
>    causing the issue. Here's how to do it:
>    1.  With your phone on, press and hold the Power button and
>        Volume Down button for 10+ seconds. On Samsung phones
>        without a dedicated Power key, press and hold the Volume
>        Down key and Side key for 10+ seconds.
>    2.  Hold until the Samsung Galaxy logo appears.
>    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ QUOTE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>

Thanks very much, will try that!





-- 
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
Web:  http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk

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#144557

In comp.mobile.android, on Wed, 27 Nov 2024 18:08:10 +1300, Ralph Fox
<-rf-nz-@-.invalid> wrote:

>On Wed, 27 Nov 2024 05:18:23 +0200, Steve Hayes wrote:
>
>> Three days ago my Samsung phone froze, and yould not respond to any
>> input from the touch screen.
>> 
>> In the past when such a thing has happened I've found that it can be
>> cured by taking out the battery and rebooting. 
>> 
>> But with this particular Samsung model one cannot remove the battery
>> without special tools. 
>> 
>> Would it have the same effect if I wait a few days for the battery to
>> go flat, and then try to charge it and restart it?
>> 
>> Has anyone else foudn a way to switch off and restart a phone when the
>> touch screen doesn't respond and you can't remove the battery?
>
>
>Mr. Google says to try these:
>
>1.  <https://www.samsung.com/uk/support/mobile-devices/my-galaxy-smartphone-has-frozen-how-do-i-restart-it/>
>
>    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ QUOTE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>    Samsung phone frozen - how to soft reset or hard reboot
>
>    If your device is frozen and unresponsive, press and hold the
>    Power button and the Volume down button down simultaneously for
>    more than 7 seconds to restart it. When your phone resets, you
>    will feel it vibrate.
>    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ QUOTE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
>2.  <https://www.asurion.com/connect/tech-tips/samsung-galaxy-touch-screen-not-working/>
>
>    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ QUOTE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>    Restart your Samsung Galaxy
>
>    It almost sounds too simple, but restarting your Samsung Galaxy
>    can sometimes fix your touch screen by clearing out what's
>    causing the issue. Here's how to do it:
>    1.  With your phone on, press and hold the Power button and
>        Volume Down button for 10+ seconds. On Samsung phones
>        without a dedicated Power key, press and hold the Volume
>        Down key and Side key for 10+ seconds.
>    2.  Hold until the Samsung Galaxy logo appears.
>    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ QUOTE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I have 7 seconds.  Now I have 10 seconds.  Does anyone offer 20 seconds?



>3.  <https://drfone.wondershare.com/samsung/turn-off-samsung-phone-without-touch-screen.html>
>
>4.  <https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=restart+samsung+phone+without+screen>

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#144611

Am 27.11.24 um 17:44 schrieb micky:
> In comp.mobile.android, on Wed, 27 Nov 2024 18:08:10 +1300, Ralph Fox
> <-rf-nz-@-.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, 27 Nov 2024 05:18:23 +0200, Steve Hayes wrote:
>>
>>> Three days ago my Samsung phone froze, and yould not respond to any
>>> input from the touch screen.
>>>
>>> In the past when such a thing has happened I've found that it can be
>>> cured by taking out the battery and rebooting.
>>>
>>> But with this particular Samsung model one cannot remove the battery
>>> without special tools.
>>>
>>> Would it have the same effect if I wait a few days for the battery to
>>> go flat, and then try to charge it and restart it?
>>>
>>> Has anyone else foudn a way to switch off and restart a phone when the
>>> touch screen doesn't respond and you can't remove the battery?
>>
>>
>> Mr. Google says to try these:
>>
>> 1.  <https://www.samsung.com/uk/support/mobile-devices/my-galaxy-smartphone-has-frozen-how-do-i-restart-it/>
>>
>>     ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ QUOTE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>     Samsung phone frozen - how to soft reset or hard reboot
>>
>>     If your device is frozen and unresponsive, press and hold the
>>     Power button and the Volume down button down simultaneously for
>>     more than 7 seconds to restart it. When your phone resets, you
>>     will feel it vibrate.
>>     ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ QUOTE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>>
>> 2.  <https://www.asurion.com/connect/tech-tips/samsung-galaxy-touch-screen-not-working/>
>>
>>     ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ QUOTE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>     Restart your Samsung Galaxy
>>
>>     It almost sounds too simple, but restarting your Samsung Galaxy
>>     can sometimes fix your touch screen by clearing out what's
>>     causing the issue. Here's how to do it:
>>     1.  With your phone on, press and hold the Power button and
>>         Volume Down button for 10+ seconds. On Samsung phones
>>         without a dedicated Power key, press and hold the Volume
>>         Down key and Side key for 10+ seconds.
>>     2.  Hold until the Samsung Galaxy logo appears.
>>     ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ QUOTE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> 
> I have 7 seconds.  Now I have 10 seconds.  Does anyone offer 20 seconds?

Just try, idiot.


-- 
"Gutta cavat lapidem." (Ovid)

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#144551

Steve Hayes wrote:

> I've found that it can be
> cured by taking out the battery and rebooting.
> 
> But with this particular Samsung model one cannot remove the battery
> without special tools.

There's usually a sequence of e.g. holding the power button for over 30 
seconds doing a reboot ...

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#144558

In comp.mobile.android, on Wed, 27 Nov 2024 09:21:35 +0000, Andy Burns
<usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

>Steve Hayes wrote:
>
>> I've found that it can be
>> cured by taking out the battery and rebooting.
>> 
>> But with this particular Samsung model one cannot remove the battery
>> without special tools.
>
>There's usually a sequence of e.g. holding the power button for over 30 
>seconds doing a reboot ...

Good. I knew someone would offer more than 10 seconds. 

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#144613

Am 27.11.24 um 10:21 schrieb Andy Burns:
> Steve Hayes wrote:
> 
>> I've found that it can be
>> cured by taking out the battery and rebooting.
>>
>> But with this particular Samsung model one cannot remove the battery
>> without special tools.
> 
> There's usually a sequence of e.g. holding the power button for over 30
> seconds doing a reboot ...

That does not exist anywhere. As soon as the reboot starts you can 
release the buttons.


-- 
"Gutta cavat lapidem." (Ovid)

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#144556

In comp.mobile.android, on Wed, 27 Nov 2024 05:18:23 +0200, Steve Hayes
<hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:

>Three days ago my Samsung phone froze, and yould not respond to any
>input from the touch screen.
>
>In the past when such a thing has happened I've found that it can be
>cured by taking out the battery and rebooting. 
>
>But with this particular Samsung model one cannot remove the battery
>without special tools. 
>
>Would it have the same effect if I wait a few days for the battery to
>go flat, and then try to charge it and restart it?
>
>Has anyone else foudn a way to switch off and restart a phone when the
>touch screen doesn't respond and you can't remove the battery?

You should be able to turn it off by putting it in a trash compactor. 

Not sure how to turn it back on, however. Still working on that. 

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#144560

On 11/27/2024 11:42 AM, micky wrote:
> In comp.mobile.android, on Wed, 27 Nov 2024 05:18:23 +0200, Steve Hayes
> <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:
> 
>> Three days ago my Samsung phone froze, and yould not respond to any
>> input from the touch screen.
>>
>> In the past when such a thing has happened I've found that it can be
>> cured by taking out the battery and rebooting.
>>
>> But with this particular Samsung model one cannot remove the battery
>> without special tools.
>>
>> Would it have the same effect if I wait a few days for the battery to
>> go flat, and then try to charge it and restart it?
>>
>> Has anyone else foudn a way to switch off and restart a phone when the
>> touch screen doesn't respond and you can't remove the battery?
> 
> You should be able to turn it off by putting it in a trash compactor.
> 
> Not sure how to turn it back on, however. Still working on that.
Check the manual for your phone, or do an online search.  In my 
experience you can force a reboot or reset using the physical power 
button and one of the volume buttons on the phone.  They are usually on 
the side edge of the phone.  With my motorola phone, I can get to this 
screen by holding the power and down volume buttons at the same time and 
keep pressing them until the reboot/reset screen appears.

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#144583

knuttle wrote on Wed, 27 Nov 2024 12:28:25 -0500 :

>> Not sure how to turn it back on, however. Still working on that.
> Check the manual for your phone, or do an online search.  In my 
> experience you can force a reboot or reset using the physical power 
> button and one of the volume buttons on the phone.  They are usually on 
> the side edge of the phone.  With my motorola phone, I can get to this 
> screen by holding the power and down volume buttons at the same time and 
> keep pressing them until the reboot/reset screen appears.

Being a purposefully helpful and rather detailed person, as a public
service, I wrote this, which may help the OP with an unresponsive Samsung.

 *How to un-freeze an unresponsive Samsung Galaxy A32 5G with reboot, reset, factory reset, odin mode, download mode, android recovery mode & debug mode*
 <https://xdaforums.com/t/how-to-un-freeze-an-unresponsive-samsung-galaxy-a32-5g-with-reboot-reset-factory-reset-odin-mode-download-mode-android-recovery-mode-debug-mode.4526629/>

See also this, which I wrote to help people like the OP with their phone.
 *What is the best XDA solution to control Android on the PC & recover data over Wi-Fi when the user suddenly has an unresponsive broken screen?*
 <https://xdaforums.com/t/what-is-the-best-xda-solution-to-control-android-on-the-pc-recover-data-over-wi-fi-when-the-user-suddenly-has-an-unresponsive-broken-screen.4455331/>

Good luck to the OP. 
Please let us know how it works so we all learn from each other.

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#144563

On 11/27/2024 8:42 AM, micky wrote:

> 
> You should be able to turn it off by putting it in a trash compactor.
> 
> Not sure how to turn it back on, however. Still working on that.
> 

Sorry, that only works for iPhones

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#144615

Am 27.11.24 um 18:45 schrieb David Oseas:
> On 11/27/2024 8:42 AM, micky wrote:
> 
>>
>> You should be able to turn it off by putting it in a trash compactor.
>>
>> Not sure how to turn it back on, however. Still working on that.
>>
> 
> Sorry, that only works for iPhones

Aha?!

User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
  Thunderbird/52.9.1
X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 241127-4, 11/27/2024), Outbound message
X-Antivirus-Status: Clean

You do not know what an iPhone is nor have you ever seen one.

-- 
"Gutta cavat lapidem." (Ovid)

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#144639

On 11/27/2024 1:25 PM, Jörg Lorenz wrote:

 >
 > You do not know what an iPhone is nor have you ever seen one.
 >

You'd better run and tell that to my former boss, because he paid me to 
be in charge of Android and iPhone technical support for ten years.

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#144640

On 28.11.24 19:00, David Oseas wrote:
> On 11/27/2024 1:25 PM, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
> 
>  >
>  > You do not know what an iPhone is nor have you ever seen one.
>  >
> 
> You'd better run and tell that to my former boss, because he paid me to 
> be in charge of Android and iPhone technical support for ten years.

Poor company!

Good companies do not accept or have strict minimum requirements on
Androids in a business environment. iPhones are always welcome as BYOD
and as company standard.

I have good reasons not to believe your claim.

-- 
"Roma locuta, causa finita." (Augustinus)

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