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T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls

Started byArlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com>
First post2020-08-01 04:44 +0000
Last post2021-01-13 04:55 +0000
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  T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-08-01 04:44 +0000
    Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2020-08-01 10:50 +0000
      Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-08-01 18:24 +0000
        Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2020-08-01 19:29 +0000
          Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-08-02 02:08 +0000
            Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-08-02 13:19 +0200
              Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-08-02 11:21 -0400
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-08-02 16:10 +0000
              Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2020-08-02 08:55 -0700
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-08-02 22:08 +0200
                  Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2020-08-02 20:29 +0000
                    Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-08-02 20:57 +0000
                      Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-08-03 00:04 +0200
                        Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-08-02 22:43 +0000
                          Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-08-03 22:08 +0200
                            Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-08-03 22:03 +0000
                    Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-08-03 00:03 +0200
                  Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-08-02 20:43 +0000
                    Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-08-03 00:05 +0200
                      Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-08-02 22:43 +0000
                  Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-08-02 13:54 -0700
                    Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls *Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> - 2020-08-02 16:07 -0500
                      Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2020-08-02 16:16 -0700
                        Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-08-02 16:31 -0700
                          Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-08-02 19:38 -0400
                          Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2020-08-02 16:47 -0700
                            Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-08-03 08:37 -0700
                              Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-08-03 12:36 -0400
                                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-08-03 10:24 -0700
                                  Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-08-03 13:41 -0400
                                    Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-08-03 18:21 +0000
                                    Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-08-03 17:19 -0700
                                      Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-08-03 21:48 -0400
                                        Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-08-03 19:27 -0700
                                          Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-08-04 10:05 -0400
                                            Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-08-04 08:15 -0700
                                              Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-08-04 12:27 -0400
                                                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-08-04 12:13 -0700
                              Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-08-03 17:13 -0400
                                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-08-04 03:19 +0000
                                Keeping a phone active at no monthly cost [was: Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls] sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-08-04 10:10 -0700
                                  Re: Keeping a phone active at no monthly cost [was: Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls] Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> - 2020-08-04 14:42 -0700
                                    Re: Keeping a phone active at no monthly cost [was: Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls] nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-08-04 18:00 -0400
                                    Re: Keeping a phone active at no monthly cost [was: Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls] sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-08-04 15:02 -0700
                                      Re: Keeping a phone active at no monthly cost Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-08-05 00:41 +0000
                                      Re: Keeping a phone active at no monthly cost [was: Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls] Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> - 2020-08-05 08:18 -0700
                                        Re: Keeping a phone active at no monthly cost [was: Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls] sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-08-06 07:15 -0700
                                          Re: Keeping a phone active at no monthly cost [was: Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls] nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-08-06 10:27 -0400
                                    Re: Keeping a phone active at no monthly cost [was: Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls] The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2020-08-05 11:34 -0700
                                      Re: Keeping a phone active at no monthly cost [was: Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls] sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-08-05 14:45 -0700
                                        Re: Keeping a phone active at no monthly cost [was: Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls] nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-08-05 18:18 -0400
                                        Re: Keeping a phone active at no monthly cost [was: Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls] The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2020-08-05 20:28 -0700
                                          Re: Keeping a phone active at no monthly cost [was: Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls] sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-08-06 07:13 -0700
                                            Re: Keeping a phone active at no monthly cost [was: Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls] nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-08-06 10:27 -0400
                                            Re: Keeping a phone active at no monthly cost [was: Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls] The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2020-08-06 18:43 -0700
                                              Re: Keeping a phone active at no monthly cost [was: Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls] sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-08-06 19:24 -0700
                                                Re: Keeping a phone active at no monthly cost [was: Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls] nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-08-07 00:58 -0400
                                                Re: Keeping a phone active at no monthly cost [was: Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls] The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2020-08-07 09:07 -0700
                                                  Re: Keeping a phone active at no monthly cost [was: Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls] sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-08-07 10:44 -0700
                                                    Re: Keeping a phone active at no monthly cost [was: Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls] nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-08-07 14:39 -0400
                                                      Re: Keeping a phone active at no monthly cost [was: Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls] Joe Beanfish <joebeanfish@nospam.duh> - 2020-08-10 14:45 +0000
                                                        Re: Keeping a phone active at no monthly cost [was: Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls] nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-08-10 10:54 -0400
                                          Re: Keeping a phone active at no monthly cost [was: Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls] sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-08-06 09:48 -0700
                                        Re: Keeping a phone active at no monthly cost [was: Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls] Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-08-06 06:24 +0000
                        Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls *Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> - 2020-08-02 19:16 -0500
                          Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2020-08-02 17:40 -0700
                    Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2020-08-02 14:56 -0700
                      Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2020-08-05 14:10 -0700
                        Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2020-08-05 15:14 -0700
                          Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-08-05 18:18 -0400
                    Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-08-02 21:56 +0000
                  Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2020-08-02 15:56 -0700
                    Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-08-03 18:40 +0200
                      Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-08-03 18:02 +0000
                        Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-08-03 22:05 +0200
                          Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-08-03 13:12 -0700
                            Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-08-03 21:12 +0000
                            Re: Ignoring posts "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-08-03 23:15 +0200
                              Re: Ignoring posts Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-08-03 21:53 +0000
                            Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-08-03 17:21 -0400
                              Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-08-04 09:51 -0700
                                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-08-04 13:07 -0400
                                  Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2020-08-04 17:56 +0000
                                    Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-08-04 14:09 -0400
                                      Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-08-04 23:49 -0400
                                        Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-08-05 00:47 -0400
                                          Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-08-05 02:03 -0400
                                            Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-08-05 02:25 -0400
                                              Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-08-05 22:02 -0400
                                                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-08-05 22:08 -0400
                                                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-08-05 21:07 -0700
                                                  Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-08-06 00:17 -0400
                                            Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-08-05 04:50 -0700
                                              Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-08-05 08:13 -0400
                                              Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-08-05 14:06 +0000
                                              Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-08-05 22:11 -0400
                                            Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-08-06 19:08 -0700
                                              Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-08-07 08:31 -0700
                                                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-08-07 11:40 -0400
                                                  Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-08-07 14:31 -0400
                                                    Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-08-07 14:39 -0400
                                                    Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-08-07 12:56 -0700
                                                      Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-08-07 15:59 -0400
                                                        Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-08-07 16:36 -0400
                                                          Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-08-07 19:47 -0400
                                                          Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-08-07 17:32 -0700
                                                    Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls *Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> - 2020-08-07 19:29 -0500
                                                      Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-08-07 20:34 -0400
                                                  Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-08-07 23:52 +0000
                                                    Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-08-07 19:56 -0400
                                                      Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls *Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> - 2020-08-07 19:14 -0500
                                                        Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-08-07 20:21 -0400
                                                    Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls *Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> - 2020-08-07 19:20 -0500
                                                      Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2020-08-08 22:29 +0000
                                        Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-08-05 05:30 -0700
                                          Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-08-05 08:48 -0400
                                        Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-08-05 18:18 -0700
                                          Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-08-05 22:08 -0400
                                    Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-08-04 11:35 -0700
                                      Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-08-04 14:41 -0400
                                    Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-08-04 12:47 -0700
                                      Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-08-04 16:14 -0400
                          Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-08-03 21:18 +0000
                      Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-08-03 12:47 -0700
          Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2020-08-03 11:04 -0700
            Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-08-03 14:23 -0400
              Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-08-03 18:52 +0000
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-08-03 14:54 -0400
                  Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-08-03 21:44 +0000
                    Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-08-03 18:54 -0400
                Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2020-08-03 20:18 +0000
                  Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls Arlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com> - 2020-08-03 21:43 +0000
    Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-13 04:55 +0000

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#70575 — Re: Keeping a phone active at no monthly cost [was: Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls]

FromJoe Beanfish <joebeanfish@nospam.duh>
Date2020-08-10 14:45 +0000
SubjectRe: Keeping a phone active at no monthly cost [was: Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls]
Message-ID<rgrmii$72k$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#70532
On Fri, 07 Aug 2020 14:39:13 -0400, nospam wrote:
> In article <rgk3tg$onc$1@dont-email.me>, sms
> <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Try Opera for Linux, which still supports Flash I believe. There are 
>> still a lot of web sites out there that require Flash,
> 
> no there aren't, and the very few that remain will cease to work in a
> few months, when flash is finally killed for good.

I'm happy to see flash go and wish it had gone 5 or 10 years ago. But the
discontinuation of the product doesn't mean all the flash support
in the field will suddenly stop working. It's more a question of when
the browsers stop allowing it to run, which they're already largely
doing by default. But one could run old browsers with old flash
plugins more or less indefinitely.

I bugged 8x8 years ago about their flash interface. They're only
now beginning to migrate off of it.

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#70576 — Re: Keeping a phone active at no monthly cost [was: Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls]

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2020-08-10 10:54 -0400
SubjectRe: Keeping a phone active at no monthly cost [was: Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls]
Message-ID<100820201054534995%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#70575
In article <rgrmii$72k$1@dont-email.me>, Joe Beanfish
<joebeanfish@nospam.duh> wrote:

> >> Try Opera for Linux, which still supports Flash I believe. There are 
> >> still a lot of web sites out there that require Flash,
> > 
> > no there aren't, and the very few that remain will cease to work in a
> > few months, when flash is finally killed for good.
> 
> I'm happy to see flash go and wish it had gone 5 or 10 years ago.

it mostly did. 

very few sites still use flash (low single digit percentage), and most
of those aren't worth the effort.

> But the
> discontinuation of the product doesn't mean all the flash support
> in the field will suddenly stop working. It's more a question of when
> the browsers stop allowing it to run, which they're already largely
> doing by default. But one could run old browsers with old flash
> plugins more or less indefinitely.

running an older browser risks unpatched security exploits, and at some
point, those old browsers will not work on modern sites or on modern
operating systems.

microsoft will also remove flash support in edge in a future windows
update.

> I bugged 8x8 years ago about their flash interface. They're only
> now beginning to migrate off of it.

some companies have no clue but at least they realized they need to
update their site.

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#70522 — Re: Keeping a phone active at no monthly cost [was: Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls]

Fromsms <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
Date2020-08-06 09:48 -0700
SubjectRe: Keeping a phone active at no monthly cost [was: Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls]
Message-ID<rghc8l$n85$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#70510
On 8/5/2020 8:28 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
> On 08/05/2020 02:45 PM, sms wrote:
>> On 8/5/2020 11:34 AM, The Real Bev wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>> I've got that too.  If you refill with a CC you get charged an
>>> additional fee.  It's hard to find the $10 top-up cards now, but
>>> Smart&Final has them.  I won't need one until December, and there's an
>>> expiration date based on the purchase date.  By December they'll
>>> probably all be gone :-(
>>
>> As cheap as that plan is, the reality is that the Truphone plan is
>> cheaper, plus you can use data if necessary, plus it's on AT&T in the 
>> U.S..
>>
>> The FreedomPop free tier plan is really free, once you pay the $11 to
>> sign up for it. There is no need to have a credit card available for
>> them to charge you extra. To be extra safe, pay the set up fee with a
>> new Paypal account, funded with a Virtual Credit Card, then close both
>> the Paypal account and the Virtual Credit Card.
> 
> Where did you get one?  I tried 6 different cards, including the one at 
> my own bank.  Nada.
> 
>> Freedom Pop won't let
>> you pay the set-up fee directly with a credit card, but paying with
>> Paypal is fine. That's what I did on the free account.
>>
>> Obviously Freedom Pop would like you to sign up for a paid plan, but
>> it's not required. They do have a 1GB/unlimited/unlimited per month plan
>> for $50 per year, if you need more than the free tier.
> 
> I wonder how they make their money on the $5/everything free SIMs. 
> Advertising?

The $5 per month plan is probably not a money loser considering how 
little they pay for bulk data.

I think that Redpocket probably just considered buying FreedomPop a good 
investment because they have the opportunity to upsell Red Pocket plans 
to both the free tier of Freedom Pop customers, as well as to those on 
the 1GB plan. 1GB isn't much data these days, where the average user is 
at over 4GB of cellular data and around 13GB of Wi-Fi data. The cellular 
data numbers are being skewed by the fact that many users simply no 
longer bother to worry about using Wi-Fi instead of cellular data. I 
have 60GB high-speed of data to share with three lines and rarely use 
more than 1/4th of that so I don't obsess about using Wi-Fi anymore. 
Also, the LTE data tends to be faster than the Wi-Fi data, as wall as 
more secure. The amount RedPocket paid for FreedomPop was undisclosed 
but it probably wasn't much.

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#70517 — Re: Keeping a phone active at no monthly cost [was: Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls]

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2020-08-06 06:24 +0000
SubjectRe: Keeping a phone active at no monthly cost [was: Re: T-Mobile Sprint Merger: Say goodbye to scam calls]
Message-ID<slrnrin8g6.2dof.g.kreme@ProMini.lan>
In reply to#70498
In message <rgf9ah$f2q$1@dont-email.me> sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
> As cheap as that plan is, the reality is that the Truphone plan is 
> cheaper, plus you can use data if necessary, plus it's on AT&T in the U.S..

AT&T is a definite mark against Truphone

-- 
"He has no enemies, but is intensely disliked by his friends.." Oscar
	Wilde

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#70396

From*Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid>
Date2020-08-02 19:16 -0500
Message-ID<S4GdneMZRKbQyrrCnZ2dnUU7-X_NnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#70392
Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
> On Aug 2, 2020, Hemidactylus* wrote
> (in article<m_Wdnegdo5iatrrCnZ2dnUU7-XPNnZ2d@giganews.com>):
> 
>> sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
>>> On 8/2/2020 1:08 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>> 
>>>> So of course I need a data plan to use a smartphone as intended, as
>>>> designed. It is a gadget invented to be used on the move with Internet
>>>> access.
>>> 
>>> In the U.S. you can get a data plan for very low cost (even free!). I
>>> have one phone that has a 1GB per month data plan that costs me $2.58
>>> per month, and one with 200MB per month that is free.
>>> 
>>> There's really no good reason to not have a data plan unless you're
>>> using the phone solely as a music player, remote control for a Roku, or
>>> some other use where a cellular data connection is unnecessary.
>> There is the potential for retiring an older obsolete iPhone into service
>> as an iPod/bookreader.
> 
> I have repurposed my retired iPhone 6S plus (iOS 13.5.1) as the iOS
> device mated to the DJI controller for my DJI Mavic Air 2 (MA2) drone.
> That leaves my iPhone 8 plus available without having to be hooked up to
> the MA2 controller whenever I feel like flying.
> 
> <https://photos.smugmug.com/Air-2-Work/i-DB84RQ6/0/514dd2d8/4K/IMG_3178e-4K.jpg>
> <https://photos.smugmug.com/Air-2-Work/i-g5hCGc4/0/3ce4832e/4K/IMG_3179e-4K.jpg>
> 
> ...and the iP6S+ is still functional if I ever need it as an emergency
> phone, It is without a data plan. However, for iOS updates, and app
> updates it has full WiFi access via my home network. My iP8+ as my daily
> working smartphone does, of course have a data plan.
> 
I guess technically one could use a current iPhone with data plan as a
hotspot for repurposed iPhone if need arose. 

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#70397

FromSavageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com>
Date2020-08-02 17:40 -0700
Message-ID<0001HW.24D7947A03DB7DF9700004A882CF@news.giganews.com>
In reply to#70396
On Aug 2, 2020, Hemidactylus* wrote
(in article<S4GdneMZRKbQyrrCnZ2dnUU7-X_NnZ2d@giganews.com>):

> Savageduck<savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com>  wrote:
> > On Aug 2, 2020, Hemidactylus* wrote
> > (in article<m_Wdnegdo5iatrrCnZ2dnUU7-XPNnZ2d@giganews.com>):
> >
> > > sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
> > > > On 8/2/2020 1:08 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > So of course I need a data plan to use a smartphone as intended, as
> > > > > designed. It is a gadget invented to be used on the move with Internet
> > > > > access.
> > > >
> > > > In the U.S. you can get a data plan for very low cost (even free!). I
> > > > have one phone that has a 1GB per month data plan that costs me $2.58
> > > > per month, and one with 200MB per month that is free.
> > > >
> > > > There's really no good reason to not have a data plan unless you're
> > > > using the phone solely as a music player, remote control for a Roku, or
> > > > some other use where a cellular data connection is unnecessary.
> > > There is the potential for retiring an older obsolete iPhone into service
> > > as an iPod/bookreader.
> >
> > I have repurposed my retired iPhone 6S plus (iOS 13.5.1) as the iOS
> > device mated to the DJI controller for my DJI Mavic Air 2 (MA2) drone.
> > That leaves my iPhone 8 plus available without having to be hooked up to
> > the MA2 controller whenever I feel like flying.
> >
> > <https://photos.smugmug.com/Air-2-Work/i-DB84RQ6/0/514dd2d8/4K/IMG_3178e-4K.jpg>
> > <https://photos.smugmug.com/Air-2-Work/i-g5hCGc4/0/3ce4832e/4K/IMG_3179e-4K.jpg>
> >
> > ...and the iP6S+ is still functional if I ever need it as an emergency
> > phone, It is without a data plan. However, for iOS updates, and app
> > updates it has full WiFi access via my home network. My iP8+ as my daily
> > working smartphone does, of course have a data plan.
> I guess technically one could use a current iPhone with data plan as a
> hotspot for repurposed iPhone if need arose.

Yup!

-- 
Regards,
Savageduck

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#70383

FromThe Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>
Date2020-08-02 14:56 -0700
Message-ID<rg7cq9$bq7$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#70380
It's a nuisance to add the news server name to each newsgroup when 
cross-posting (a Thunderbird demand) so I'm just deleting alt.cellular 
and misc.phone.mobile.iphone.  I wish whoever decides to x-post to those 
other groups would just STOP.


On 08/02/2020 01:54 PM, sms wrote:
> On 8/2/2020 1:08 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>
>> So of course I need a data plan to use a smartphone as intended, as
>> designed. It is a gadget invented to be used on the move with Internet
>> access.
>
> In the U.S. you can get a data plan for very low cost (even free!). I
> have one phone that has a 1GB per month data plan that costs me $2.58
> per month, and one with 200MB per month that is free.

It would be nice to have data, but I rarely find it actually necessary.

> There's really no good reason to not have a data plan unless you're
> using the phone solely as a music player, remote control for a Roku, or
> some other use where a cellular data connection is unnecessary.

Just found the Freedompop SIM, but haven't put it back in a phone yet. 
I might consider getting another one for MY phone, but just thinking 
about having to jump through the required hoops is exhausting.

Latest:  They give you the free upgrade for the first month, but if you 
don't cancel within 14 days OF PLACING YOUR ORDER they automatically 
charge you $35 the next month.  Since the time between placing the order 
and receiving the SIM is entirely within their control, this makes me a 
little uneasy...  I'd be willing to bet that you can't cancel before you 
receive the SIM because the system needs to know the IMEI (or whatever) 
number of the SIM.

Of course I'd get one of the temporary credit cards (you have to give 
them a credit card) with a $10 max, but I did that before and it's still 
a nuisance.



-- 
Cheers, Bev
      Salesmen welcome -- dog food is expensive

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#70497

FromThe Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>
Date2020-08-05 14:10 -0700
Message-ID<rgf77k$3li$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#70383
On 08/02/2020 02:56 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
> It's a nuisance to add the news server name to each newsgroup when
> cross-posting (a Thunderbird demand) so I'm just deleting alt.cellular
> and misc.phone.mobile.iphone.  I wish whoever decides to x-post to those
> other groups would just STOP.
>
>
> On 08/02/2020 01:54 PM, sms wrote:
>> On 8/2/2020 1:08 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>
>>> So of course I need a data plan to use a smartphone as intended, as
>>> designed. It is a gadget invented to be used on the move with Internet
>>> access.
>>
>> In the U.S. you can get a data plan for very low cost (even free!). I
>> have one phone that has a 1GB per month data plan that costs me $2.58
>> per month, and one with 200MB per month that is free.
>
> It would be nice to have data, but I rarely find it actually necessary.
>
>> There's really no good reason to not have a data plan unless you're
>> using the phone solely as a music player, remote control for a Roku, or
>> some other use where a cellular data connection is unnecessary.
>
> Just found the Freedompop SIM, but haven't put it back in a phone yet.
> I might consider getting another one for MY phone, but just thinking
> about having to jump through the required hoops is exhausting.

Apparently if you don't use it for some amount of time it goes inactive 
and you have to reactivate it.  TINY number on the SIM.  Freedompop 
website recognizes that it belongs to me, but it wants $1.09 to activate 
it.  OK, I'll give it a shot, so I start looking for a virtual credit 
card number...

> Latest:  They give you the free upgrade for the first month, but if you
> don't cancel within 14 days OF PLACING YOUR ORDER they automatically
> charge you $35 the next month.  Since the time between placing the order
> and receiving the SIM is entirely within their control, this makes me a
> little uneasy...  I'd be willing to bet that you can't cancel before you
> receive the SIM because the system needs to know the IMEI (or whatever)
> number of the SIM.

Best Buy sells the 'free' SIMs for $5.00, which seems safer than 
trusting FP to wait 2 weeks before sending you the SIM...

> Of course I'd get one of the temporary credit cards (you have to give
> them a credit card) with a $10 max, but I did that before and it's still
> a nuisance.

Tried 6 different credit cards.  City made me jump through a few hoops, 
wanted me to install flash and use windows, and ultimately -- in chat -- 
told me that they don't do virtual credit cards any more.  Apparently 
neither does anyone else now.

Does anybody know of one that still does?


-- 
Cheers, Bev
  The early bird gets the worm, the second mouse gets the cheese.

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#70499

FromThe Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>
Date2020-08-05 15:14 -0700
Message-ID<rgfb0k$q2h$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#70497
On 08/05/2020 02:10 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
> On 08/02/2020 02:56 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
>> It's a nuisance to add the news server name to each newsgroup when
>> cross-posting (a Thunderbird demand) so I'm just deleting alt.cellular
>> and misc.phone.mobile.iphone.  I wish whoever decides to x-post to those
>> other groups would just STOP.
>>
>>
>> On 08/02/2020 01:54 PM, sms wrote:
>>> On 8/2/2020 1:08 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>
>>>> So of course I need a data plan to use a smartphone as intended, as
>>>> designed. It is a gadget invented to be used on the move with Internet
>>>> access.
>>>
>>> In the U.S. you can get a data plan for very low cost (even free!). I
>>> have one phone that has a 1GB per month data plan that costs me $2.58
>>> per month, and one with 200MB per month that is free.
>>
>> It would be nice to have data, but I rarely find it actually necessary.
>>
>>> There's really no good reason to not have a data plan unless you're
>>> using the phone solely as a music player, remote control for a Roku, or
>>> some other use where a cellular data connection is unnecessary.
>>
>> Just found the Freedompop SIM, but haven't put it back in a phone yet.
>> I might consider getting another one for MY phone, but just thinking
>> about having to jump through the required hoops is exhausting.
>
> Apparently if you don't use it for some amount of time it goes inactive
> and you have to reactivate it.  TINY number on the SIM.  Freedompop
> website recognizes that it belongs to me, but it wants $1.09 to activate
> it.  OK, I'll give it a shot, so I start looking for a virtual credit
> card number...

Contacted FP's chat.  It turns out that they canceled this old SIM when 
LTE arrived.  Don't ask.  They canceled the Franklin hotspot when they 
sold part of the company to others.  So 'forever' just means 'until we 
change our minds'.  The chat-guy said that apparently the service was 
forever, but the SIM had expired.

I told him "I'm sorry, we don't support your tires any more, you're 
going to have to buy a new car..."

I think he was kind of embarrassed to have to say that.  Still, $5 or $6 
for several years isn't really that bad a deal...

I really wish there were virtual credit cards, though..

>> Latest:  They give you the free upgrade for the first month, but if you
>> don't cancel within 14 days OF PLACING YOUR ORDER they automatically
>> charge you $35 the next month.  Since the time between placing the order
>> and receiving the SIM is entirely within their control, this makes me a
>> little uneasy...  I'd be willing to bet that you can't cancel before you
>> receive the SIM because the system needs to know the IMEI (or whatever)
>> number of the SIM.
>
> Best Buy sells the 'free' SIMs for $5.00, which seems safer than
> trusting FP to wait 2 weeks before sending you the SIM...
>
>> Of course I'd get one of the temporary credit cards (you have to give
>> them a credit card) with a $10 max, but I did that before and it's still
>> a nuisance.
>
> Tried 6 different credit cards.  City made me jump through a few hoops,
> wanted me to install flash and use windows, and ultimately -- in chat --
> told me that they don't do virtual credit cards any more.  Apparently
> neither does anyone else now.
>
> Does anybody know of one that still does?


-- 
Cheers, Bev
   "Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day.  Tell him that the
    government will give him lots of fish and he will vote for you
    forever.
    When he doesn't get any fish, blame the other guys."  -A Taxpayer

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#70500

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2020-08-05 18:18 -0400
Message-ID<050820201818565425%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#70499
In article <rgfb0k$q2h$1@dont-email.me>, The Real Bev
<bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:

> 
> I really wish there were virtual credit cards, though..

there are, although they don't absolve one from paying what they owe.

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#70384

FromArlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com>
Date2020-08-02 21:56 +0000
Message-ID<rg7cr0$gsf$1@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to#70380
On Sun, 2 Aug 2020 13:54:37 -0700, sms wrote:

> In the U.S. you can get a data plan for very low cost (even free!). I 
> have one phone that has a 1GB per month data plan that costs me $2.58 
> per month, and one with 200MB per month that is free.
> 
> There's really no good reason to not have a data plan unless you're 
> using the phone solely as a music player, remote control for a Roku, or 
> some other use where a cellular data connection is unnecessary.

While I too have a free-for-life T-Mobile 200MB/month data plan on some of
my iPads (which turns the iPad into a free US calls POTS-capable
incoming/outgoing speakerphone for example)...

And while I agree that data is inexpensive anyway, in many cases, at least
in the US, we do have to realize Carlos is in, oh, as I recall, one of the
Iberian Peninsula countries (AFAICR).

However, even with zero data, there are very few things someone who is
intelligent can't do (I have a few threads on that topic alone, in the
Android ng).

For example:
o What decent free offline no-login privacy-enabled road map apps exist for Android users to enjoy?
<https://groups.google.com/topic/comp.mobile.android/YadPNimUcu8>

o How to Send and Receive Text Messages Without a Phone Plan or SIM Card
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.mobile.android/RVGqku3UtRg>

o Offline speech-to-text recorder/transcription unofficial Google Recorder APK port now available for many Android phones
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.mobile.android/_Amn35T16NA>

There are still "some" things which are easier with data than without:
o Is there a non Google freeware traffic app
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.mobile.android/Ve_2cgliiGk>

o Let's document the best known current free REPLACEMENTS for Google "mail" account - so all benefit from our efforts
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.mobile.android/YUdwh4QgoRQ>

But not many... 
o And certainly those few functionalities work fine when you're on Wi-Fi.
-- 
People who can't comprehend facts are doomed to be ruled by MARKETING.

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#70391

From123456789 <12345@12345.com>
Date2020-08-02 15:56 -0700
Message-ID<rg7gbi$vmr$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#70377
Carlos E.R. wrote:
> 123456789 wrote:

>> I picked up a smartphone on my local Target department store 
>> discount rack awhile back for $15 US. I use it when puttering 
>> around the house as an Android iPod. It also streams radio stations
>> from around the world. Works great without either a data plan OR a
>> phone plan...

> a smartphone without a dataplan is useless.

The smartphone mentioned above is quite USEFUL to me. At $15 it was
quite a bit cheaper than I originally paid for my old iPod and I use it
for pretty much the same thing.

> I can not check the map while I'm on the street; I can not get a 
> message (here we don't use SMS, we use Whatsapp). I can not do many 
> things that I do normally till I arrive home to my wifi. These days,
>  to get the menu listing of a restaurant, I have to make a photo of 
> its QR code at the door and look it up online, as it is not printed 
> in a board.

Course not. Neither can I. I have another considerably more expensive
smartphone for my regular smartphone business. That doesn't mean my
el-cheapo around-the-house smartphone isn't USEFUL. It's about the third
the size and fits in my shirt pocket nicely. Very USEFUL. And BTW did I
mention that it's USEFUL?

> So of course I need a data plan to use a smartphone as intended, as 
> designed. It is a gadget invented to be used on the move with 
> Internet access.

Of course you do. As always YMMV.

> That you can live without it? Sure.

I think you are actually arguing with Arlen here. He's the one the one
that wants a sans-data plan phone. I simply pointed out that a disemboweled
smartphone can actually be quite USEFUL... ;)

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#70401

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2020-08-03 18:40 +0200
Message-ID<19rlvg-c5s.ln1@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#70391
On 03/08/2020 00.56, 123456789 wrote:
> Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> 123456789 wrote:
> 
>>> I picked up a smartphone on my local Target department store discount 
>>> rack awhile back for $15 US. I use it when puttering around the house 
>>> as an Android iPod. It also streams radio stations
>>> from around the world. Works great without either a data plan OR a
>>> phone plan...
> 
>> a smartphone without a dataplan is useless.
> 
> The smartphone mentioned above is quite USEFUL to me. At $15 it was
> quite a bit cheaper than I originally paid for my old iPod and I use it
> for pretty much the same thing.
> 
>> I can not check the map while I'm on the street; I can not get a 
>> message (here we don't use SMS, we use Whatsapp). I can not do many 
>> things that I do normally till I arrive home to my wifi. These days,
>>  to get the menu listing of a restaurant, I have to make a photo of 
>> its QR code at the door and look it up online, as it is not printed in 
>> a board.
> 
> Course not. Neither can I. I have another considerably more expensive
> smartphone for my regular smartphone business. That doesn't mean my
> el-cheapo around-the-house smartphone isn't USEFUL. It's about the third
> the size and fits in my shirt pocket nicely. Very USEFUL. And BTW did I
> mention that it's USEFUL?
> 
>> So of course I need a data plan to use a smartphone as intended, as 
>> designed. It is a gadget invented to be used on the move with Internet 
>> access.
> 
> Of course you do. As always YMMV.
> 
>> That you can live without it? Sure.
> 
> I think you are actually arguing with Arlen here. He's the one the one
> that wants a sans-data plan phone. I simply pointed out that a disemboweled
> smartphone can actually be quite USEFUL... ;)

Well, I pointed out that I agreed with the *generic* statement that a 
smartphone without a dataplan is useless, with a big smile. You can 
demonstrate exceptions, and so can I; I have an active smartphone 
without a dataplan. But instead of having a conversation as everybody 
else here and having a good time, he resorts to insulting me because I 
do not agree with him.

{chuckle}


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#70404

FromArlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com>
Date2020-08-03 18:02 +0000
Message-ID<rg9jff$kmh$1@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to#70401
On Mon, 3 Aug 2020 18:40:33 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:

> Well, I pointed out that I agreed with the *generic* statement that a 
> smartphone without a dataplan is useless, with a big smile. You can 
> demonstrate exceptions, and so can I; I have an active smartphone 
> without a dataplan. But instead of having a conversation as everybody 
> else here and having a good time, he resorts to insulting me because I 
> do not agree with him.

Play your worthless silly childish games Carlos... 
o This is what transpired (verbatim):

  > I had to ask that VP if she ever graduated from high school, since a
  > smartphone is just fine on WiFi or off the net, but she _insisted_ that a
  > smartphone is worthless without a data plan.

  Carlos: She is right :-P

The point is that a smartphone without a data plan, for an _intelligent_
person, is perfectly functional.

Just like a smart phone without a cloud account is perfectly functional.

It's my opinion that the dumber people are, the more they need crutches:
a. Data plan 
b. Cloud storage

There's a _reason_ MARKETING pushes this stuff to the ignorati, Carlos:
o Do people of reasonable technical ability store their private data on the Internet (if so, for what gain?)
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/E0TkTd-zLuk>

Only the ignorati would claim that a smartphone is useless without a
cellular connection to the Internet - and they did - she and you both.
-- 
The less intelligent the person, the more they require the cloud.

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#70416

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2020-08-03 22:05 +0200
Message-ID<l87mvg-5f5.ln1@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#70404
On 03/08/2020 20.02, Arlen Holder wrote:
> On Mon, 3 Aug 2020 18:40:33 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> 
>> Well, I pointed out that I agreed with the *generic* statement that a
>> smartphone without a dataplan is useless, with a big smile. You can
>> demonstrate exceptions, and so can I; I have an active smartphone
>> without a dataplan. But instead of having a conversation as everybody
>> else here and having a good time, he resorts to insulting me because I
>> do not agree with him.
> 
> Play your worthless silly childish games Carlos...

I stop reading here.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#70418

Fromsms <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
Date2020-08-03 13:12 -0700
Message-ID<rg9r2n$ru9$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#70416
On 8/3/2020 1:05 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:

<snip>

> I stop reading here.

But you follow-up anyway! Please don't! For the majority of us, that 
have filtered out the most obnoxious troll,s it creates more posts to 
ignore, though now I guess I'm guilty of it it too.

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#70421

FromArlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com>
Date2020-08-03 21:12 +0000
Message-ID<rg9uki$de2$1@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to#70418
On Mon, 3 Aug 2020 13:12:06 -0700, sms wrote:

>> I stop reading here.
> 
> But you follow-up anyway! Please don't! For the majority of us, that 
> have filtered out the most obnoxious troll,s it creates more posts to 
> ignore, though now I guess I'm guilty of it it too.

Notice Steve filters out all facts about Apple he simply doesn't like.
o It's why we've proved, many times, sms is ignorant of basic facts.

For one example, Steve _still_ believes Apple now pays less per iPhone than
before the Qualcomm surrender; which is simply patently false.

The fact apologists filter out facts is why they're always so ignorant.
-- 
The real problem with Apple newsgroups is that the apologists exist.

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#70423 — Re: Ignoring posts

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2020-08-03 23:15 +0200
SubjectRe: Ignoring posts
Message-ID<gcbmvg-hd9.ln1@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#70418
On 03/08/2020 22.12, sms wrote:
> On 8/3/2020 1:05 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> 
> <snip>
> 
>> I stop reading here.
> 
> But you follow-up anyway! Please don't! For the majority of us, that 
> have filtered out the most obnoxious troll,s it creates more posts to 
> ignore, though now I guess I'm guilty of it it too.
> 

Why don't you tell your filter to kill the entire thread? :-?
Or any followups to his posts?
Thunderbird can do that easily.

Create filter:

match any
   [From] [is] [arlen...]
   [From] [is] [arlen2...]
   [From] [is] [arlen3...]
   [From] [is] [arlen4...]


Perform these actions
   Ignore Subthread.

;-)


I'm tempted, but sometimes he brings up interesting issues, but with a 
ton of verbiage and insults if you dare to not agree with him, which I 
forget and fall again in the trap.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#70428 — Re: Ignoring posts

FromArlen Holder <arlenholder@newmachine.com>
Date2020-08-03 21:53 +0000
SubjectRe: Ignoring posts
Message-ID<rga0vs$j8v$1@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to#70423
On Mon, 3 Aug 2020 23:15:28 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:

> I'm tempted, but sometimes he brings up interesting issues, but with a 
> ton of verbiage and insults if you dare to not agree with him, which I 
> forget and fall again in the trap.


1. Who has posted more tutorials to this newsgroup than anyone, Carlos?

2. Who has documented more tests of freeware to this ng, than anyone?

3. Who _always_ provides facts (well cited, often verbatim) to this ng?

What you don't like, Carlos, IMHO, is when you play your silly games in
threads I author, that I call you out by pointing to EXACTLY what you
write.

If you didn't play your silly games, I wouldn't call you out for them.
-- 
There are only two kinds of people on Usenet, and Carlos is one of them.

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#70425

FromJF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca>
Date2020-08-03 17:21 -0400
Message-ID<Gd%VG.227250$RF4.188711@fx43.iad>
In reply to#70418
Someone mentioned that with the combined coverage of Sprint/T-Mobile,
coverage ius much better.


Have normal people seen a difference already from the merger?

Have they just enabled T-Mobile custoemrs to roam on Sprint and vice versa?

Or have they already "relabeled" all the SPrint towers to serve the
T-Mobile MNO so T-Mobile customers are at "home" on those towers, and
Sprint customers always roaming on T-Mobile already?

(You can program OTA SIM cards to consider X network to be considered a
"home" network even though the SIM card is attached to Y, which is how
MVNOs work. on iPhone, Apple even allows carriers to rename other networks.

Fo instance, in Canada, the Fido SIM cards consider the Rogers network
to be "Fido"   (Rogers shut down the Fido network when it bought it and
moved all Fido customers to RogerKs network), and Fido renamed Bell and
Telus's network to "Fido EXT" when roaming on bell or Telus.  This also
affect the manual network selection.

So I am curious how T-Mobile is doing the integration.

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