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  Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2019-01-17 23:14 +0000
    Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-01-18 00:12 +0000
      Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-18 00:58 +0000
        Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-17 19:29 -0600
      Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2019-01-18 06:27 +0000
        Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-18 14:29 +0000
        Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-20 20:55 +0000
          Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-20 16:02 -0500
            Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-23 01:14 +0000
              Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-23 00:32 -0600
                Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-23 20:41 +0000
                  Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-23 20:49 +0000
                  Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-23 15:38 -0600
                    Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2019-01-23 15:50 -0600
                      Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-23 15:59 -0600
                        Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-01-23 22:06 +0000
                          Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-23 16:09 -0600
                            Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-24 00:07 +0000
                              Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-23 18:27 -0600
                                Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2019-01-23 19:16 -0600
                                Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-24 02:00 +0000
                                  Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-24 07:50 +0000
                                    Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-24 07:56 +0000
                                      Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-24 02:34 -0600
                                        Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-24 11:54 +0000
                                      Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-24 02:49 -0600
                                        Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-24 13:39 +0000
                            Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2019-01-24 06:10 +0000
                          Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2019-01-25 09:14 -0600
                            Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-25 17:42 +0000
                      Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-24 00:02 +0000
                        Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-24 15:54 -0600
                          Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-24 16:41 -0600
                            Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-01-25 15:21 +0000
                            Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-25 16:48 -0600
                            Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-25 16:51 -0600
          Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-25 07:14 -0600
            Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-25 14:38 +0000
              Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2019-01-25 16:34 +0000
                Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2019-01-25 11:49 -0500
              Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-25 16:02 -0600
                Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-25 22:41 +0000
                  Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-25 17:14 -0600
              Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-25 16:08 -0600
              Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-25 16:11 -0600
              Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-25 16:17 -0600
            Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-01-25 15:16 +0000
              Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "R.Wieser" <address@not.available> - 2019-01-25 20:41 +0100
                Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-27 02:02 +0000
              Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2019-02-15 19:15 -0600
          Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2019-01-27 12:46 -0800
    Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-18 04:18 +0000
      Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2019-01-18 06:27 +0000
        Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-01-18 15:01 +0000
          Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-01-25 07:17 -0600
            Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> - 2019-01-25 14:38 +0000

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#59019 — Re: I just belatedly realized why adults can't communicate with Jolly Roger & nospam & Alan Baker & Snit - because they're too far to the left on the Dunning-Kruger scale

arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> news:q1o1lh$lrs$1@news.mixmin.net
Wed, 16 Jan 2019 19:45:54 GMT in alt.comp.freeware, wrote: 

> While I have been pondering, for decades, what makes some Usenet
> posters utterly immune to facts (e.g., Diesel, Snit, Colonel
> Edmund J. Burke, John Doe, Nomen Nomescu, Shadow, Good Guy, Mr.
> Man-wai Chang, David B., %, Anonymous, Cybe R Wizard, etc. - the
> list is huge so allow me to stop)... 

I've been on usenet for decades, and don't remember interacting with 
you until just the past year or so.
 
> I used to think most this immunity to fact was due to one of two
> reasons: o They're either just toying with us (for their own
> childish amusement), or o They're really _that_ unfathomably
> stupid. 

I can't speak for others, but, I'm far from stupid, Arlen. I elected 
not to help you for a very specific reason; and I made that perfectly 
clear to you. You were incapable of being a responsible adult and 
issuing an apology. Due to that, and only that, I opted not to 
provide you any specific details concerning sharing your Android 
device internal/external memory over your network via a drive letter 
mount. I've also noticed, you have so far, failed to be able do that 
on your own. Evidently, you aren't anywhere near as smart as you 
thought you were.

> And I pretty much tested out my premises over the decades, for
> example: o Experiments proving [certain] Usenet groups are filled
> to the brim with children 
>  <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/b0DrfrsR
>  h24/ODQneWFEBAAJ> 

You act far more like a child than any of the people you listed, and 
that's saying quite a bit considering you listed Anoncoward and David 
Brooks.
 
> Obviously the first item is easy to understand, where my "tactic"
> to deal with those who deny the most basic of adult discussions is
> to make it "less fun" (which you, yourself, have been the target
> of - but so has Rene Lamontagne, Frank Slootweg, Dan Purgert, Char
> Jackson, etc.). 

Your tactic is what causes others to pause before assisting you, if 
anyone does so in the first place. I don't know who told you that 
childish insults would get you far with people, but, they mislead 
you.
 
> To summarize, for the "childish" people who get their enjoyment
> out of childish toying with Usenet posters, I simply attempt to
> "make it less fun" for them.

I find you highly amusing though, Arlen. Simply because you can't 
figure out how to do very basic things that you come here and ask for 
help with. You then proceed to belittle others, but, never manage to 
get what you want done in the process. That, is highly entertaining 
and it costs me nothing.
 
> That is, no amount of fact will change their minds.
> Ever. 

Fact. I have shared android access across my network as a drive 
letter for the internal memory and my external memory. You do not. 
It's been months now, and you still haven't figured out how to do it.
 
Yes, I still find it highly amusing. I also can't help but notice 
your newbie programming Android efforts are a dismal failure too. Too 
funny. Carry on with your insults, it's clear they're not getting you 
the help you want with your projects.



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#59020

On 2019-01-17, Diesel <me@privacy.net> wrote:
> arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> news:q1o1lh$lrs$1@news.mixmin.net
> Wed, 16 Jan 2019 19:45:54 GMT in alt.comp.freeware, wrote: 
>
>> While I have been pondering, for decades, what makes some Usenet
>> posters utterly immune to facts (e.g., Diesel, Snit, Colonel
>> Edmund J. Burke, John Doe, Nomen Nomescu, Shadow, Good Guy, Mr.
>> Man-wai Chang, David B., %, Anonymous, Cybe R Wizard, etc. - the
>> list is huge so allow me to stop)... 
>
> I've been on usenet for decades, and don't remember interacting with 
> you until just the past year or so.
>  
>> I used to think most this immunity to fact was due to one of two
>> reasons: o They're either just toying with us (for their own
>> childish amusement), or o They're really _that_ unfathomably
>> stupid. 
>
> I can't speak for others, but, I'm far from stupid, Arlen. I elected 
> not to help you for a very specific reason; and I made that perfectly 
> clear to you. You were incapable of being a responsible adult and 
> issuing an apology. Due to that, and only that, I opted not to 
> provide you any specific details concerning sharing your Android 
> device internal/external memory over your network via a drive letter 
> mount. I've also noticed, you have so far, failed to be able do that 
> on your own. Evidently, you aren't anywhere near as smart as you 
> thought you were.
>
>> And I pretty much tested out my premises over the decades, for
>> example: o Experiments proving [certain] Usenet groups are filled
>> to the brim with children 
>>  <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/b0DrfrsR
>>  h24/ODQneWFEBAAJ> 
>
> You act far more like a child than any of the people you listed, and 
> that's saying quite a bit considering you listed Anoncoward and David 
> Brooks.
>  
>> Obviously the first item is easy to understand, where my "tactic"
>> to deal with those who deny the most basic of adult discussions is
>> to make it "less fun" (which you, yourself, have been the target
>> of - but so has Rene Lamontagne, Frank Slootweg, Dan Purgert, Char
>> Jackson, etc.). 
>
> Your tactic is what causes others to pause before assisting you, if 
> anyone does so in the first place. I don't know who told you that 
> childish insults would get you far with people, but, they mislead 
> you.
>  
>> To summarize, for the "childish" people who get their enjoyment
>> out of childish toying with Usenet posters, I simply attempt to
>> "make it less fun" for them.
>
> I find you highly amusing though, Arlen. Simply because you can't 
> figure out how to do very basic things that you come here and ask for 
> help with. You then proceed to belittle others, but, never manage to 
> get what you want done in the process. That, is highly entertaining 
> and it costs me nothing.
>  
>> That is, no amount of fact will change their minds.
>> Ever. 
>
> Fact. I have shared android access across my network as a drive 
> letter for the internal memory and my external memory. You do not. 
> It's been months now, and you still haven't figured out how to do it.
>  
> Yes, I still find it highly amusing. I also can't help but notice 
> your newbie programming Android efforts are a dismal failure too. Too 
> funny. Carry on with your insults, it's clear they're not getting you 
> the help you want with your projects.

He pulls the same shit on the iOS and macOS newsgroups for hours upon
hours daily, and fails miserably to get the simplest things done for
months there as well - all while insulting everyone there and claiming
he's smarter than everyone on the planet. He shows what an idiot he is
every time he opens his big mouth. It's really pathetic to watch him go
down in flames over and over again, all while screaming "FAKE NEWS" when
anyone points out his stupidity.

-- 
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I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#59021

Jolly Roger wrote:
> [ ... ]
> He pulls the same shit on the iOS and macOS newsgroups for hours upon
> hours daily, and fails miserably to get the simplest things done for
> months there as well - all while insulting everyone there and claiming
> he's smarter than everyone on the planet. He shows what an idiot he is
> every time he opens his big mouth. It's really pathetic to watch him go
> down in flames over and over again, all while screaming "FAKE NEWS" when
> anyone points out his stupidity.
>

On the upside, his crossposting to the world has, on occasion, let me
converse with knowledgeable people I wouldn't have otherwise had run
into


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#59022

On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 00:58:36 -0000 (UTC)
Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> wrote:

> On the upside, his crossposting to the world has, on occasion, let me
> converse with knowledgeable people I wouldn't have otherwise had run
> into

Just today I was pondering the possible re-emergence of Usenet since
most of the big social media sites are either failing or opting out.

BRING BACK USENET!

Cybe R. Wizard -wants this SO BADLY
-- 
Usenet:
A thick skin is required but thin lips are discouraged. 
	Cybe R. Wizard

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#59025

Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
news:gacjvmFar10U1@mid.individual.net Fri, 18 Jan 2019 00:12:38 GMT
in alt.os.linux, wrote: 

> He pulls the same shit on the iOS and macOS newsgroups for hours
> upon hours daily, and fails miserably to get the simplest things
> done for months there as well - all while insulting everyone there
> and claiming he's smarter than everyone on the planet. He shows
> what an idiot he is every time he opens his big mouth. It's really
> pathetic to watch him go down in flames over and over again, all
> while screaming "FAKE NEWS" when anyone points out his stupidity.

He's very amusing at times with what he thinks are witty insults. He 
claims to have been on usenet for decades in newsgroups I've frequented 
for decades, yet, somehow, he has no idea what my normal posting handle 
actually is. :) I just don't buy that.
 
Watching him publish hello world programs as he went through online 
tutorials for programming Android devices was hilarious from my point 
of view; that being, decades of actual programming experience on a wide 
variety of platforms. Not scripts, but, actual programs that worked as 
intended, from scratch. No hand holding GUI, etc.




-- 
Landing: A controlled mid-air collision with a planet.

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#59031

Diesel wrote:
>  [...]
> Watching him publish hello world programs as he went through online 
> tutorials for programming Android devices was hilarious from my point 
> of view; that being, decades of actual programming experience on a wide 
> variety of platforms. Not scripts, but, actual programs that worked as 
> intended, from scratch. No hand holding GUI, etc.

I love me some AVR "Hello World" programs.  Although I was a stupid and
got Microchip's new "1-series" boards, and they're not the same as the
older ATTinyx5's that I've been playing with.

I'm definitely a midroad programmer at best ... and it is quite humbling
when you have to sit and really rack your brain for how to do "read this
pin" when there aren't any tutorials out there.

Maybe I should make one.  Eventually. When I suck less, so I'm not just
one more example of "bad tutorial on the internet".


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#59109

On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 06:27:21 -0000 (UTC), Diesel wrote:

> He's very amusing at times with what he thinks are witty insults. 

Hi Diesel,
I have a strategy which is to use Usenet to get answers to tech questions.
(Yeah, crazy strategy ... I know ... many use Usenet for their amusement.)

My strategy is to share & cull & combine data to solve problems, together.
I use tactics to manage the threads where I ask those technical questions.

Two tactics I use consistently are to:
a. Mirror the implied intent of each post - regardless of prior history
b. Directly confront the cowardly bullies - of which you are one

The purpose of confronting the cowardly bullies is obvious:
o. Once they've infested a thread - the potluck picnic is already ruined
o. Make it "less fun" for the bullies - hoping they refrain next time

It's a battle of percentages, Diesel. 
o One hundred percent of the time I will confront you cowardly bullies

The goal is for you to KNOW that I will do that.
o I will simply let _you_ make a fool of yourself, Dustin.
o By pointing out the very words that you post (they're always of a child)

If you consider me pointing out your very words to be "witty", so be it.
o I simply consider my tactic merely letting you prove you're a child.

Bear in mind, Diesel, and those like you, Dustin.
o While there is no love lost between us - I don't care about you.
o I just want you to act like an adult when posting to threads I care about

Simple. Consistent. 
o A strategy to work a thread so that technical answers result.
o Tactics that fit that strategy and that deter childish bullies like you.

After having said that, you now know my strategy & tactics Diesel.
o Some bullies, like Char Jackson & Snit & Wolf K insists on their rights
o They, like Alan Baker & Jason Betts insist on a God-given right to Troll.

At times, even I must deviate from my tactics and respond to them that
o This is my last response to you in this thread (to save everyone else).

Much to everyone's pleasure, Diesel, I say that now to you, Dustin.

> claims to have been on usenet for decades in newsgroups I've frequented 
> for decades, yet, somehow, he has no idea what my normal posting handle 
> actually is. :) I just don't buy that.

Hi Dustin,

If you re-read what I wrote above, you see this consistent tactic:
o Mirror the implied intent of each post - regardless of prior history

You see, it matters not to me WHOM you post as - I don't even look:
o For the "chit-chat" Usenet model - who you are matters 
o For the "chit-chat" model - it seems what you post matters not

The reason it matters not who you are is that I care about ANSWERS!
o In the "Q&A" Usenet model - what you post is all that matters
o That's simply because we'll take solutions from anyone - even you

Hence, it matters not to me whether you post as Casio, Diesel, 
Diesel-Dum, Dustin Cook, Gremlin, Raid, Slam, et al.

You love to dox people, Diesel, just as David Brooks & Aardvark do.
You doxed David Eagle & Jenn Porter for example.
You're' no different than Steve Carroll (aka David Brooks & maybe Good Guy).

You wrote "virus families" as a vxer, disseminating them in the wild.
You even hosted a web site related to those efforts.

*Let me tell you a secret, Dustin... I don't give one whit about nyms.*
(I change mine all the time, for example, for aggregator privacy.)

In the chit-chat model, who you are may be important because 
in general, you say nothing in every post.

In the Q&A model, who you are is meaningless; what matters is 
what value you add to the overall tribal knowledge inherent in the
question.

I don't care if you posted as God herself - if you simply answer a question.

> Watching him publish hello world programs as he went through online 
> tutorials for programming Android devices was hilarious from my point 
> of view; that being, decades of actual programming experience on a wide 
> variety of platforms. Not scripts, but, actual programs that worked as 
> intended, from scratch. No hand holding GUI, etc.

Hi Dustin,

I know you consider yourself a genius for having disseminated viruses.

The problem, Diesel, is that you see me disseminating Hello World 
programs, and you _think_ you can do better (which, maybe you can).

You _think_ by me disseminating those programs (which are, by the way, 
to help others since they're all cut and paste designs), that I'm 
claiming some kind of "genius").

The problem I have with your brain, Diesel, is that it's that of a child.

Nobody on this planet (but you) thinks disseminating a cut and paste
"Hello World" is a stroke of genius. Nobody.

Well, nobody but you.

BTW, this is for _others_ to get a gist of what Diesel is talking about:
o Report: My first "hello world" using Android Studio freeware on Windows worked just fine (in about an hour)
 <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.mobile.android/aW64zYeBtF0>

HINT: I always try to enable others to cut-&-paste what I can do
(and I never claim to be a genius - I just claim to be at least average).

My strategy is to share & cull & combine data to solve problems, together.

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#59110

In article <q22n7l$9a5$1@news.mixmin.net>, arlen holder
<arlen@arlen.com> wrote:

> I have a strategy which is to use Usenet to get answers to tech questions.

one that doesn't work particularly well.

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#59192

On Sun, 20 Jan 2019 16:02:13 -0500, nospam wrote:

> one that doesn't work particularly well.

And yet, my facts are _always_ correct (see note 1).
While yours generally take fewer than 10 seconds to disprove.

Do you want me to cite situation after situation again nospspam?
Meanwhile, you can't find a _single_ time I've stated a fact to you
that wasn't correct.

All you can do is claim all facts are wrong - sans any proof.
It's the hallmark of children nospam (look at Cybe Wizard for an example).

I realize you childish Apologists, nospam, can _only_ play silly games.
o Your entire belief system is underlain by Apple MARKETING propaganda
o Hence, your biggest weakness, nospam, is plain old basic fact.

You have only seven responses to fact, in fact:

These are your 7 responses to fact, common to all you Apologists:
... *HABIT 1:*
. They brazenly & repeatedly fabricate wholly imaginary app functionality
. They then exclaim that it's been told to us many times how to do it
... *HABIT 2:*
. They almost never back up statements with actual referenced facts 
. They incessantly play childish semantic games when faced with those facts 
... *HABIT 3:*
. *They deny facts a priori - without even reading the referenced cites*
. Then they complain about quote snipping of their silly semantic games
... *HABIT 4:*
. They're never purposefully helpful by helping the OP answer the question 
. They post worthless retorts, all of which lack any added technical value 
... *HABIT 5:*
. They consistently blame Android for Apple's app & hardware faults
. They consistently find the absolute worst price:performance comparisons 
... *HABIT 6:*
. They actually believe that a well-documented process is too complex! 
. They literally believe elapsed time is proof of actual resolution time. 
... *HABIT 7:*
. They consistently fabricate quoted content that never happened 
. They then wittily respond to that imaginary quoted content as if it did! 

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#59201

On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 01:14:42 -0000 (UTC)
arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> wrote:

> All you can do is claim all facts are wrong - sans any proof.

The proof is in the putting and I'm putting the proof, in the form of
message IDs (see below) which are YOUR writings, in most every message
I send these days.

> It's the hallmark of children nospam (look at Cybe Wizard for an
> example).

I've never claimed that your 'facts' are wrong; I've merely suggested
that they are very few and far between and that what does emerge from
your dementia is not factual too often.  For instance, what you just
said about me is just a lie.  NO facts present.  

BTW, have you yet come up with the list of TEN THOUSAND tutorials you
say you wrote in Message-ID: <po4626$vpu$1@news.mixmin.net>?

Hey, Harloo, do you  really believe that anyone thinks you to be honest
any more now that your constant lies are being broadcast worldwide so
regularly?

Cybe R. Wizard -knows you liars well
-- 
A liar begins with making falsehood appear like truth, and ends with
making truth itself appear like falsehood. 
	William Shenstone

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#59219

On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 00:32:46 -0600, Cybe R. Wizard wrote:

> I've never claimed that your 'facts' are wrong;

Cybe R Wizard,

*You prove my point of your worthlessness in every post, Cybe R Wizard.*

Cybe R Wizard,
1. Your type of worthless drivel never adds _any_ value to any thread.
2. In fact, your posts, Cybe R Wizard, add _negative_ value.
3. Hence, alienating you is a "good thing" since you can't post value.

Cybe R Wizard,
You prove your utter incomprehensible lack of value in every post.

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#59221

arlen holder wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 00:32:46 -0600, Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
>
>> I've never claimed that your 'facts' are wrong;
>
> arlen holder,
>
> *You prove my point of your worthlessness in every post, arlen holder.*
>
> arlen holder,
> 1. Your type of worthless drivel never adds _any_ value to any thread.
> 2. In fact, your posts, arlen holder, add _negative_ value.
> 3. Hence, alienating you is a "good thing" since you can't post value.
>
> arlen holder,
> You prove your utter incomprehensible lack of value in every post.

ftfy. hth. hand.


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#59227

On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 20:41:28 -0000 (UTC)
arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 00:32:46 -0600, Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
> 
> > I've never claimed that your 'facts' are wrong;  
> 
> Cybe R Wizard,
> 
> *You prove my point of your worthlessness in every post, Cybe R
> Wizard.*
> 
> Cybe R Wizard,
> 1. Your type of worthless drivel never adds _any_ value to any thread.

There;s always value is showing liars to be liars.

Therefore, here is one of your lies, claiming to have personally written
TEN THOUSAND tutorials:
Message-ID: <po4626$vpu$1@news.mixmin.net>

> 2. In fact, your posts, Cybe R Wizard, add _negative_ value.

Negative toward you, I will readily admit.  Shut me up.  Go ahead; you
know how.  I've explicitly told you haw.  Just do it.

> 3. Hence, alienating you is a "good thing" since you can't post value.

You fail once again, then.
You haven't alienated me, Ardline, if fact, just the opposite.  I am
closer and closer to you daily, living right there inside your head
each time you admit to yourself that I am right about you being a
liar.  You /KNOW/ that it's true.
> 
> Cybe R Wizard,
> You prove your utter incomprehensible lack of value in every post.

The great value of showing liars to be liars is ongoing and at least an
honest endeavor.   That it is incomprehensible TO /YOU/ is pretty
telling, too. 

Cybe R. Wizard
-- 
“Maybe you're dead inside and don't even know it.” 
	Bryant McGill, Simple Reminders: Inspiration for Living Your
	Best Life

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#59229

On 01/23/2019 3:38 PM, Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 20:41:28 -0000 (UTC)
> arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 00:32:46 -0600, Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
>>
>>> I've never claimed that your 'facts' are wrong;
>>
>> Cybe R Wizard,
>>
>> *You prove my point of your worthlessness in every post, Cybe R
>> Wizard.*
>>
>> Cybe R Wizard,
>> 1. Your type of worthless drivel never adds _any_ value to any thread.
> 
> There;s always value is showing liars to be liars.
> 
> Therefore, here is one of your lies, claiming to have personally written
> TEN THOUSAND tutorials:
> Message-ID: <po4626$vpu$1@news.mixmin.net>
> 
>> 2. In fact, your posts, Cybe R Wizard, add _negative_ value.
> 
> Negative toward you, I will readily admit.  Shut me up.  Go ahead; you
> know how.  I've explicitly told you haw.  Just do it.
> 
>> 3. Hence, alienating you is a "good thing" since you can't post value.
> 
> You fail once again, then.
> You haven't alienated me, Ardline, if fact, just the opposite.  I am
> closer and closer to you daily, living right there inside your head
> each time you admit to yourself that I am right about you being a
> liar.  You /KNOW/ that it's true.
>>
>> Cybe R Wizard,
>> You prove your utter incomprehensible lack of value in every post.
> 
> The great value of showing liars to be liars is ongoing and at least an
> honest endeavor.   That it is incomprehensible TO /YOU/ is pretty
> telling, too.
> 
> Cybe R. Wizard
> 

Hey Cybe, Whilst your there inside his head maybe you can rattle up his 
one and a half brain cells, might help, but again maybe not, but thanks 
for trying.  :-)

Rene

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#59231

On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 15:50:30 -0600
Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> wrote:

> On 01/23/2019 3:38 PM, Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
> > On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 20:41:28 -0000 (UTC)
> > arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> wrote:
> >   
> >> On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 00:32:46 -0600, Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
> >>  
> >>> I've never claimed that your 'facts' are wrong;  
> >>
> >> Cybe R Wizard,
> >>
> >> *You prove my point of your worthlessness in every post, Cybe R
> >> Wizard.*
> >>
> >> Cybe R Wizard,
> >> 1. Your type of worthless drivel never adds _any_ value to any
> >> thread.  
> > 
> > There;s always value is showing liars to be liars.
> > 
> > Therefore, here is one of your lies, claiming to have personally
> > written TEN THOUSAND tutorials:
> > Message-ID: <po4626$vpu$1@news.mixmin.net>
> >   
> >> 2. In fact, your posts, Cybe R Wizard, add _negative_ value.  
> > 
> > Negative toward you, I will readily admit.  Shut me up.  Go ahead;
> > you know how.  I've explicitly told you haw.  Just do it.
> >   
> >> 3. Hence, alienating you is a "good thing" since you can't post
> >> value.  
> > 
> > You fail once again, then.
> > You haven't alienated me, Ardline, if fact, just the opposite.  I am
> > closer and closer to you daily, living right there inside your head
> > each time you admit to yourself that I am right about you being a
> > liar.  You /KNOW/ that it's true.  
> >>
> >> Cybe R Wizard,
> >> You prove your utter incomprehensible lack of value in every
> >> post.  
> > 
> > The great value of showing liars to be liars is ongoing and at
> > least an honest endeavor.   That it is incomprehensible TO /YOU/ is
> > pretty telling, too.
> > 
> > Cybe R. Wizard
> >   
> 
> Hey Cybe, Whilst your there inside his head maybe you can rattle up
> his one and a half brain cells, might help, but again maybe not, but
> thanks for trying.  :-)
> 
> Rene

I appreciate your support.  I /AM/ trying to get him to grow up and be a
man about his lying, but is seeming pretty hopeless.  He really is far
gone.

Cybe R. Wizard
-- 
When I was growing up, my family was so poor we couldn't afford to pay
attention. 
	Mr. T

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#59232

On 2019-01-23, Cybe R. Wizard <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 15:50:30 -0600
> Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> wrote:
>> On 01/23/2019 3:38 PM, Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
>>> On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 20:41:28 -0000 (UTC)
>>> arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> wrote:
>>>   
>>>> On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 00:32:46 -0600, Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
>>>>  
>>>>> I've never claimed that your 'facts' are wrong;  
>>>>
>>>> Cybe R Wizard,
>>>>
>>>> *You prove my point of your worthlessness in every post, Cybe R
>>>> Wizard.*
>>>>
>>>> Cybe R Wizard, 1. Your type of worthless drivel never adds _any_
>>>> value to any thread.  
>>> 
>>> There;s always value is showing liars to be liars.
>>> 
>>> Therefore, here is one of your lies, claiming to have personally
>>> written TEN THOUSAND tutorials: Message-ID:
>>> <po4626$vpu$1@news.mixmin.net>
>>>   
>>>> 2. In fact, your posts, Cybe R Wizard, add _negative_ value.  
>>> 
>>> Negative toward you, I will readily admit.  Shut me up.  Go ahead;
>>> you know how.  I've explicitly told you haw.  Just do it.
>>>   
>>>> 3. Hence, alienating you is a "good thing" since you can't post
>>>> value.  
>>> 
>>> You fail once again, then.  You haven't alienated me, Ardline, if
>>> fact, just the opposite.  I am closer and closer to you daily,
>>> living right there inside your head each time you admit to yourself
>>> that I am right about you being a liar.  You /KNOW/ that it's true.  
>>>>
>>>> Cybe R Wizard, You prove your utter incomprehensible lack of value
>>>> in every post.  
>>> 
>>> The great value of showing liars to be liars is ongoing and at
>>> least an honest endeavor.   That it is incomprehensible TO /YOU/ is
>>> pretty telling, too.
>>> 
>>> Cybe R. Wizard
>>>   
>> 
>> Hey Cybe, Whilst your there inside his head maybe you can rattle up
>> his one and a half brain cells, might help, but again maybe not, but
>> thanks for trying.  :-)
>> 
>> Rene
>
> I appreciate your support.  I /AM/ trying to get him to grow up and be
> a man about his lying, but is seeming pretty hopeless.  He really is
> far gone.
>
> Cybe R. Wizard

You're wasting your time with him. He's a lost cause.

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#59233

On 23 Jan 2019 22:06:01 GMT
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> On 2019-01-23, Cybe R. Wizard <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid>
> wrote:
> > On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 15:50:30 -0600
> > Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> wrote:  
> >> On 01/23/2019 3:38 PM, Cybe R. Wizard wrote:  
> >>> On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 20:41:28 -0000 (UTC)
> >>> arlen holder <arlen@arlen.com> wrote:
> >>>     
> >>>> On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 00:32:46 -0600, Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
> >>>>    
> >>>>> I've never claimed that your 'facts' are wrong;    
> >>>>
> >>>> Cybe R Wizard,
> >>>>
> >>>> *You prove my point of your worthlessness in every post, Cybe R
> >>>> Wizard.*
> >>>>
> >>>> Cybe R Wizard, 1. Your type of worthless drivel never adds _any_
> >>>> value to any thread.    
> >>> 
> >>> There;s always value is showing liars to be liars.
> >>> 
> >>> Therefore, here is one of your lies, claiming to have personally
> >>> written TEN THOUSAND tutorials: Message-ID:
> >>> <po4626$vpu$1@news.mixmin.net>
> >>>     
> >>>> 2. In fact, your posts, Cybe R Wizard, add _negative_ value.    
> >>> 
> >>> Negative toward you, I will readily admit.  Shut me up.  Go ahead;
> >>> you know how.  I've explicitly told you haw.  Just do it.
> >>>     
> >>>> 3. Hence, alienating you is a "good thing" since you can't post
> >>>> value.    
> >>> 
> >>> You fail once again, then.  You haven't alienated me, Ardline, if
> >>> fact, just the opposite.  I am closer and closer to you daily,
> >>> living right there inside your head each time you admit to
> >>> yourself that I am right about you being a liar.  You /KNOW/ that
> >>> it's true.    
> >>>>
> >>>> Cybe R Wizard, You prove your utter incomprehensible lack of
> >>>> value in every post.    
> >>> 
> >>> The great value of showing liars to be liars is ongoing and at
> >>> least an honest endeavor.   That it is incomprehensible TO /YOU/
> >>> is pretty telling, too.
> >>> 
> >>> Cybe R. Wizard
> >>>     
> >> 
> >> Hey Cybe, Whilst your there inside his head maybe you can rattle up
> >> his one and a half brain cells, might help, but again maybe not,
> >> but thanks for trying.  :-)
> >> 
> >> Rene  
> >
> > I appreciate your support.  I /AM/ trying to get him to grow up and
> > be a man about his lying, but is seeming pretty hopeless.  He
> > really is far gone.
> >
> > Cybe R. Wizard  
> 
> You're wasting your time with him. He's a lost cause.
> 
Hope springs eternal.  I am an optimist most times.
I /almost/ believe in him.

...but then:
"A wise man proportions his belief to the evidence."
	David Hume

Cybe R. Wizard
-- 
Optimism - the doctrine or belief that everything is beautiful,
including what is ugly. 
	Ambrose Bierce

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#59240

Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
> On 23 Jan 2019 22:06:01 GMT
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> You're wasting your time with him. He's a lost cause.
>> 
> Hope springs eternal.  I am an optimist most times.
> I /almost/ believe in him.
>
> ...but then:
> "A wise man proportions his belief to the evidence."
> 	David Hume

Who ever said you were wise? :-p


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#59241

On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 00:07:47 -0000 (UTC)
Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> wrote:

> Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
> > On 23 Jan 2019 22:06:01 GMT
> > Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> >  
> >> You're wasting your time with him. He's a lost cause.
> >>   
> > Hope springs eternal.  I am an optimist most times.
> > I /almost/ believe in him.
> >
> > ...but then:
> > "A wise man proportions his belief to the evidence."
> > 	David Hume  
> 
> Who ever said you were wise? :-p
> 
I thought it to be obvious that I am /NOT/ proportioning my belief to
the evidence and so assuredly am not wise if I am still thinking him to
be salvageable.

! ! !      :-\

Cybe R. Wizard -always thinkin'        )
-- 
Bunkrapt:
"Biologist Peter Medawar coined the term bunkrapt to describe believers
in things lacking a scientific basis, like immortal souls, loving gods
or quantum consciousness fields pervading the cosmos."

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#59247

On 01/23/2019 6:27 PM, Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 00:07:47 -0000 (UTC)
> Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> wrote:
> 
>> Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
>>> On 23 Jan 2019 22:06:01 GMT
>>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>>   
>>>> You're wasting your time with him. He's a lost cause.
>>>>    
>>> Hope springs eternal.  I am an optimist most times.
>>> I /almost/ believe in him.
>>>
>>> ...but then:
>>> "A wise man proportions his belief to the evidence."
>>> 	David Hume
>>
>> Who ever said you were wise? :-p
>>
> I thought it to be obvious that I am /NOT/ proportioning my belief to
> the evidence and so assuredly am not wise if I am still thinking him to
> be salvageable.
> 
> ! ! !      :-\
> 
> Cybe R. Wizard -always thinkin'        )
> 

Pretty sad, If he had at least *two* brain cells they might mate and 
produce more little brain cells. But as it stands there's not much hope 
for the poor lad, I'm afraid he's over the edge.  :-(

Rene

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