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| Started by | "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> |
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| First post | 2018-09-25 23:56 +0000 |
| Last post | 2018-10-04 16:21 -0700 |
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The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-25 23:56 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 visiblink <visiblink@mail.invalid> - 2018-09-25 19:14 -0700
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-26 03:19 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-26 11:49 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 visiblink <visiblink@mail.invalid> - 2018-09-26 19:48 -0700
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-27 03:50 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-09-26 21:13 -0700
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-27 06:02 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-27 06:05 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-09-26 23:46 -0700
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-27 16:18 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-09-27 09:27 -0700
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-09-27 07:46 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-27 03:58 -0400
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-27 15:24 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-27 15:13 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-09-27 07:46 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-27 14:49 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-09-27 20:05 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-27 20:28 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-10-04 22:29 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-10-05 11:07 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-09-27 07:46 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 "Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-27 15:43 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-09-27 20:05 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-27 20:23 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-10-04 22:29 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-09-27 20:40 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-27 20:52 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 08:39 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-28 09:52 -0400
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-28 15:53 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 17:44 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-28 18:01 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Krusty <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-29 15:57 +0800
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Arlen Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-29 23:13 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-28 15:34 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 17:44 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-28 17:57 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2018-09-28 12:59 -0500
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> - 2018-09-28 18:15 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2018-09-28 13:46 -0500
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-09-28 21:27 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-09-29 00:00 +0100
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2018-09-28 16:21 -0700
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-10-04 22:29 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 07:31 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-10-04 22:29 +0000
Re: The fantastically brilliant YouYube privacy clones (youtube-dl & New Pipe) have been updated to 0.14.1 Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-10-04 16:21 -0700
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| From | Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> |
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| Date | 2018-09-28 18:15 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <polr4s$81s$1@news.mixmin.net> |
| In reply to | #56107 |
On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 12:59:08 -0500, Rene Lamontagne wrote: > You mean I'm not at the top of his List anymore? Oh Gee I feel Real bad > now. :-) *Why must you _prove_ you can't add an iota of value, Rene Lamontagne?*
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| From | Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> |
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| Date | 2018-09-28 13:46 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <g17b7tF431pU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #56109 |
On 09/28/2018 1:15 PM, Arlen H Holder wrote: > On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 12:59:08 -0500, Rene Lamontagne wrote: > >> You mean I'm not at the top of his List anymore? Oh Gee I feel Real bad >> now. :-) > > *Why must you _prove_ you can't add an iota of value, Rene Lamontagne?* > Just to piss you off.
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| From | Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> |
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| Date | 2018-09-28 21:27 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnpqt759.6s3.dan@xps-linux.djph.net> |
| In reply to | #56110 |
Rene Lamontagne wrote: > On 09/28/2018 1:15 PM, Arlen H Holder wrote: >> On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 12:59:08 -0500, Rene Lamontagne wrote: >> >>> You mean I'm not at the top of his List anymore? Oh Gee I feel Real bad >>> now. :-) >> >> *Why must you _prove_ you can't add an iota of value, Rene Lamontagne?* >> > > Just to piss you off. > I thought it was funny ... (not sure which group Rene hails from, else I'd trim things.. Followup set to alt.os.linux). -- |_|O|_| Registered Linux user #585947 |_|_|O| Github: https://github.com/dpurgert |O|O|O| PGP: 05CA 9A50 3F2E 1335 4DC5 4AEE 8E11 DDF3 1279 A281
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| From | "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> |
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| Date | 2018-09-29 00:00 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <uUKrCdDwJrrbFwao@255soft.uk> |
| In reply to | #56107 |
In message <g178ffF3hc0U1@mid.individual.net>, Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> writes: >On 09/28/2018 12:44 PM, Chris wrote: >> Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> wrote: [snipped] >> Time to killfile this new nym of yours, methinks. >> > >Yeah, He does get boring eh. > >Rene > I had, quite a while ago; however, I keep seeing followups. From people I normally respect. I know it's hard to "let him have the last word", but just _don't respond_. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf But remember, in a permissive society, it is also permissible to stay at home and have a nice cup of tea instead. Andrew Collins, RT 2015/2/14-20
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| From | Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-28 16:21 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <jpdtqdtlir44ecgnndcleeb6e92o6j7gpa@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #56114 |
On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 00:00:00 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> wrote: >In message <g178ffF3hc0U1@mid.individual.net>, Rene Lamontagne ><rlamont@shaw.ca> writes: >>On 09/28/2018 12:44 PM, Chris wrote: >>> Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> wrote: >[snipped] >>> Time to killfile this new nym of yours, methinks. >>> >> >>Yeah, He does get boring eh. >> >>Rene >> >I had, quite a while ago; however, I keep seeing followups. From people >I normally respect. I know it's hard to "let him have the last word", >but just _don't respond_. I agree completely. Best is to killfile trolls, so the question of whether to respond never comes up.
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| From | Diesel <me@privacy.net> |
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| Date | 2018-10-04 22:29 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <XnsA971BE02EBAC6HT1@8e2JdLmM3Ez5Bps26z42n51lj2ejF8d05XSss.5yh> |
| In reply to | #56098 |
Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> news:pokpcc$fm7$1@dont-email.me Fri, 28 Sep 2018 08:39:40 GMT in alt.comp.freeware, wrote: > Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> wrote: >> On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 20:40:32 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote: >> >>> It's immaterial to the discussion, but i doubt that google has >>> the source code for every app on android. >> >> The point simply is that if NewPipe, which is open source code >> that has been available for years, was doing something illegal, >> then Google would have a case against them since clearly New Pipe >> does many things that the YouTube app can't do (and which, for >> some features, Google attempts to extract money from YouTube Red >> subscribers for). >> >> I'm not a lawyer and I never said I was one, but I can look at >> obvious logical facts, and make an adult assessment, > > Ok. Let's go there. > > You posit that if an app were illegal Google would block it. > Therefore as new pipe is available from Google it can't be > illegal. That's true. > > However, you're confusing the legality of an object with the > legality of an act using that object or thing. Just because new > pipe isn't illegal doesn't mean you can't use for illegal > activity. They are logically distinct. > > If A is illegal and B is used to commit A, then B is also illegal > *only* if B's only purpose is to enable A. Didn't I already cover this when I wrote: I don't know what you mean by perfectly legal? If you think it's perfectly legal for you to use the program and download any/all videos you like, you'd be wrong. In some cases, you're actually committing copyright infringement when using the application. -- To prevent yourself from being a victim of cyber stalking, it's highly recommended you visit here: https://tekrider.net/pages/david-brooks-stalker.php =================================================== I had my coat hangers spayed.
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| From | Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-10-05 07:31 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pp73vm$rjo$5@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #56302 |
Diesel <me@privacy.net> wrote: > Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> news:pokpcc$fm7$1@dont-email.me Fri, 28 > Sep 2018 08:39:40 GMT in alt.comp.freeware, wrote: > >> Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> wrote: >>> On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 20:40:32 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote: >>> >>>> It's immaterial to the discussion, but i doubt that google has >>>> the source code for every app on android. >>> >>> The point simply is that if NewPipe, which is open source code >>> that has been available for years, was doing something illegal, >>> then Google would have a case against them since clearly New Pipe >>> does many things that the YouTube app can't do (and which, for >>> some features, Google attempts to extract money from YouTube Red >>> subscribers for). >>> >>> I'm not a lawyer and I never said I was one, but I can look at >>> obvious logical facts, and make an adult assessment, >> >> Ok. Let's go there. >> >> You posit that if an app were illegal Google would block it. >> Therefore as new pipe is available from Google it can't be >> illegal. That's true. >> >> However, you're confusing the legality of an object with the >> legality of an act using that object or thing. Just because new >> pipe isn't illegal doesn't mean you can't use for illegal >> activity. They are logically distinct. >> >> If A is illegal and B is used to commit A, then B is also illegal >> *only* if B's only purpose is to enable A. > > Didn't I already cover this when I wrote: > > I don't know what you mean by perfectly legal? If you think it's > perfectly legal for you to use the program and download any/all > videos you like, you'd be wrong. In some cases, you're actually > committing copyright infringement when using the application. Indeed you did. He just didn't get it. I think he does now as in every reply to me he snipped more and more of what I said as he couldn't refute the fact that new pipe might facilitate copyright theft despite it, in itself, being completely legal.
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| From | Diesel <me@privacy.net> |
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| Date | 2018-10-04 22:29 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <XnsA971BE0474280HT1@8e2JdLmM3Ez5Bps26z42n51lj2ejF8d05XSss.5yh> |
| In reply to | #56095 |
Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> news:pojfuc$ip7$1@news.mixmin.net Thu, 27 Sep 2018 20:52:30 GMT in alt.comp.freeware, wrote: > On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 20:40:32 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote: > >> It's immaterial to the discussion, but i doubt that google has >> the source code for every app on android. > > The point simply is that if NewPipe, which is open source code > that has been available for years, was doing something illegal, > then Google would have a case against them since clearly New Pipe > does many things that the YouTube app can't do (and which, for > some features, Google attempts to extract money from YouTube Red > subscribers for). You seem to be more than slightly confused. I wrote: I don't know what you mean by perfectly legal? If you think it's perfectly legal for you to use the program and download any/all videos you like, you'd be wrong. In some cases, you're actually committing copyright infringement when using the application. The tool itself is like a gun, it's a neutral party. It's how you use the tool that determines if your actions are legal or not. > I'm not a lawyer and I never said I was one, but I can look at > obvious logical facts, and make an adult assessment, which is that > Google (IMHO) is most certainly extremely well aware of New Pipe > functionality and source code particulars. Which has nothing to do with what I wrote. -- To prevent yourself from being a victim of cyber stalking, it's highly recommended you visit here: https://tekrider.net/pages/david-brooks-stalker.php =================================================== 1 There's always one in every crowd.
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| From | Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> |
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| Date | 2018-10-04 16:21 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <pp67a9$1al6$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #56303 |
On 2018-10-04 3:29 PM, Diesel wrote: > Arlen H Holder <arlenholder@no.spam.net> > news:pojfuc$ip7$1@news.mixmin.net Thu, 27 Sep 2018 20:52:30 GMT in > alt.comp.freeware, wrote: > >> On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 20:40:32 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote: >> >>> It's immaterial to the discussion, but i doubt that google has >>> the source code for every app on android. >> >> The point simply is that if NewPipe, which is open source code >> that has been available for years, was doing something illegal, >> then Google would have a case against them since clearly New Pipe >> does many things that the YouTube app can't do (and which, for >> some features, Google attempts to extract money from YouTube Red >> subscribers for). > > You seem to be more than slightly confused. I wrote: > > I don't know what you mean by perfectly legal? If you think it's > perfectly legal for you to use the program and download any/all > videos you like, you'd be wrong. In some cases, you're actually > committing copyright infringement when using the application. > > The tool itself is like a gun, it's a neutral party. It's how you use > the tool that determines if your actions are legal or not. > >> I'm not a lawyer and I never said I was one, but I can look at >> obvious logical facts, and make an adult assessment, which is that >> Google (IMHO) is most certainly extremely well aware of New Pipe >> functionality and source code particulars. > > Which has nothing to do with what I wrote. > > > Have you ever noticed that those who most often use "adult" as an adjective are almost always the least adult people in a conversation? :-)
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