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Usenet reader

Started byJim the Geordie <jim@jimXscott.co.uk>
First post2024-11-07 16:32 +0000
Last post2024-11-08 12:47 +0000
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  Usenet reader Jim the Geordie <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> - 2024-11-07 16:32 +0000
    Re: Usenet reader AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2024-11-07 16:59 +0000
      Re: Usenet reader AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2024-11-07 18:40 +0000
        Re: Usenet reader Andrews <andrews@spam.net> - 2024-11-08 03:08 +0000
          Re: Usenet reader AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2024-11-08 05:02 +0000
    Re: Usenet reader Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> - 2024-11-07 17:14 +0000
    Re: Usenet reader D <noreply@mixmin.net> - 2024-11-07 18:14 +0000
      Re: Usenet reader AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2024-11-07 12:24 -0700
        Re: Usenet reader Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-11-07 19:47 +0000
    Re: Usenet reader "W. Greenhouse" <wgreenhouse@tilde.club> - 2024-11-08 12:47 +0000

#144028 — Usenet reader

FromJim the Geordie <jim@jimXscott.co.uk>
Date2024-11-07 16:32 +0000
SubjectUsenet reader
Message-ID<vgiq31$2gihe$1@paganini.bofh.team>
Remind me. Is there a decent free alternative to Phonews (free)?
I'm sure I used to have one on my old phone, but nothing on Play Store 
rings any bells.
Phonews is fine except I cannot reply from it without parting with money.
-- 
Jim the Geordie

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#144029

FromAJL <noemail@none.com>
Date2024-11-07 16:59 +0000
Message-ID<vgirl7$2o0u4$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#144028
On 11/7/24 9:32 AM, Jim the Geordie wrote:
>Remind me. Is there a decent free alternative to Phonews (free)?
>I'm sure I used to have one on my old phone, but nothing on Play Store 
>rings any bells.

>Phonews is fine except I cannot reply from it without parting with money.

I bought this PhoNews Pro I'm posting with for 2 bucks (US) around 6 years
 ago. I think I got my money's worth don't you? Probably a few bucks more by
 now? Outrageous...  8-O

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#144035

FromAJL <noemail@none.com>
Date2024-11-07 18:40 +0000
Message-ID<vgj1jc$2p27e$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#144029
On 11/7/24 9:59 AM, AJL wrote:
>On 11/7/24 9:32 AM, Jim the Geordie wrote:
>>Remind me. Is there a decent free alternative to Phonews (free)?
>>I'm sure I used to have one on my old phone, but nothing on Play Store 
>>rings any bells.

>>Phonews is fine except I cannot reply from it without parting with money.

>I bought this PhoNews Pro I'm posting with for 2 bucks (US) around 6 years
> ago. I think I got my money's worth don't you? Probably a few bucks more by
> now? Outrageous...  8-O

Damn. I just looked it up and I paid the outrageous price of $1.99 for my
 PhoNews Pro app in June of 2019 when the cost today is now $1.49. Damn,
 damn, damn. I got cheated. So Jim, I recommend that you wait a few more
 years and by then it'll likely be down to a buck and maybe you'll be able
 to afford it at that price...  ;)

BTW this PhoNews app also works great on this Chromebook which is more than
 I can say for my TB newsreader... :-/

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#144047

FromAndrews <andrews@spam.net>
Date2024-11-08 03:08 +0000
Message-ID<vgjvbp$162f$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to#144035
AJL wrote on Thu, 7 Nov 2024 18:40:45 -0000 (UTC) :

> Damn. I just looked it up and I paid the outrageous price of $1.99 for my
>  PhoNews Pro app in June of 2019 when the cost today is now $1.49. Damn,
>  damn, damn. I got cheated.

Hell, I get "PhoNews" in my header.... for free!

   *User-Agent: PhoNews/3.13.3 (Android/13)*

Ask Frank. He knows how I manage that. :)

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#144048

FromAJL <noemail@none.com>
Date2024-11-08 05:02 +0000
Message-ID<vgk607$32ono$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#144047
On 11/7/24 8:08 PM, Andrews wrote:
>AJL wrote on Thu, 7 Nov 2024 18:40:45 -0000 (UTC) :
>
>> Damn. I just looked it up and I paid the outrageous price of $1.99 for my
>>  PhoNews Pro app in June of 2019 when the cost today is now $1.49. Damn,
>>  damn, damn. I got cheated.


>Hell, I get "PhoNews" in my header.... for free!

That ain't nothing. I've been getting free headers since I was a teenager...
  ;)

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#144031

FromDave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com>
Date2024-11-07 17:14 +0000
Message-ID<vgisht$2o692$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#144028
Jim the Geordie <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> Wrote in message:

> Remind me. Is there a decent free alternative to Phonews (free)?
> I'm sure I used to have one on my old phone, but nothing on Play Store 
> rings any bells.
> Phonews is fine except I cannot reply from it without parting with money.

Many recent posts in news.software.readers
-- 
Remove numerics from my email address.

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#144034

FromD <noreply@mixmin.net>
Date2024-11-07 18:14 +0000
Message-ID<20241107.181444.fab4ee7c@mixmin.net>
In reply to#144028
On Thu, 7 Nov 2024 16:32:33 +0000, Jim the Geordie <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:
>Remind me. Is there a decent free alternative to Phonews (free)?
>I'm sure I used to have one on my old phone, but nothing on Play Store 
>rings any bells.
>Phonews is fine except I cannot reply from it without parting with money.

for accessing usenet newsgroups it's (obviously) always best to use
a dedicated newsreader with comprehensive scoring features, but for
convenient access using any web browser, the newsgrouper website is
really excellent, because it "piggybacks" on two major news servers
news:news.blueworldhosting.com, and news:news.eternal-september.org,
which carry tens of thousands of newsgroups, with article retention
on average twenty-one years thanks to blueworldhosting's newsserver

e.g., this newsgroup https://newsgrouper.org.uk/comp.mobile.android,
and browse https://newsgrouper.org.uk/comp.mobile.android/search to
find articles using search criteria, or find any article spooled in
any of about forty-five thousand newsgroups by searching message-id
https://newsgrouper.org.uk/ . . . it can filter "from" headers, too

android newsreaders may improve with increased user interest in the
nntp format (e.g., a brand new version of 40tude dialog for android
would be awesome, and mozilla could make thunderbird more newsgroup
friendly, but that seems unlikely given each update makes it worse);
this seems counterintuitive, since firefox updates are usually less
troublesome for users (some users might disagree), so why is t-bird
so rife with user complaints? imo, it's just not very user-friendly
and thus far, "thunderbird for android" has no usenet functionality

(using Tor Browser 14.0.1)
https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/mobile/

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#144038

FromAJL <noemail@none.com>
Date2024-11-07 12:24 -0700
Message-ID<vgj46f$2pfqi$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#144034
On 11/7/2024 11:14 AM, D wrote:

> mozilla could make thunderbird more friendly, but that seems unlikely
> given each update makes it worse

One simple solution for that update problem is to use an old version of
TB just for newsgroups. I like this version 45.0 in that it doesn't bug
me to update. Once I set it up it just works. Course I don't use it for
anything else. Many versions of TB are still available at various
websites. Google is your friend...

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#144040

FromFrank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
Date2024-11-07 19:47 +0000
Message-ID<vgj914.mk0.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>
In reply to#144038
AJL <noemail@none.com> wrote:
> On 11/7/2024 11:14 AM, D wrote:
> 
> > mozilla could make thunderbird more friendly, but that seems unlikely
> > given each update makes it worse
> 
> One simple solution for that update problem is to use an old version of
> TB just for newsgroups. I like this version 45.0 in that it doesn't bug
> me to update. Once I set it up it just works. Course I don't use it for
> anything else. Many versions of TB are still available at various
> websites. Google is your friend...

(N.B. No need to use your friend to search for "various websites". Older
Thunderbird versions - from 0.1 (!) on - are available from the horses
mouth at <https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/thunderbird/releases/>)

  I use - for email, not newsgroups - Thunderbird version 60.9.0, which
also doesn't bug me to update.

  Newer versions, which do bug the user to update, can be beaten into
submission:

In folder 

  C:\Program Files (x86)\Mozilla Thunderbird\distribution
  or
  C:\Program Files\Mozilla Thunderbird\distribution

create file policies.json with content

{
"policies":
   {
     "DisableAppUpdate": true
   }
}

Exit and restart Thunderbird. Done.

Extra -> Options -> Update will now say:

"Updates disabled by your system administrator"

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#144056

From"W. Greenhouse" <wgreenhouse@tilde.club>
Date2024-11-08 12:47 +0000
Message-ID<s0r34k1zybl.fsf@tilde.club>
In reply to#144028
Jim the Geordie <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> writes:

> Remind me. Is there a decent free alternative to Phonews (free)?
> I'm sure I used to have one on my old phone, but nothing on Play Store rings any bells.
> Phonews is fine except I cannot reply from it without parting with money.

Depending on how [un]comfortable you find using a terminal on a
touchscreen, Termux has a few newsreader options available. I'm using Emacs/Gnus on
Termux now.

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