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Let's attempt Frank Slootweg's freeware solution for backing up Android to Windows

Started by Arlen_Holder <a%rle%20nh.older@no.spam.net>
First post2018-11-11 17:31 +0000
Last post2018-11-22 13:09 +0100
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  Let's attempt Frank Slootweg's freeware solution for backing up Android to Windows  Arlen_Holder <a%rle%20nh.older@no.spam.net> - 2018-11-11 17:31 +0000
    Re: Let's attempt Frank Slootweg's freeware solution for backing up Android to Windows Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-17 14:48 +0000
      Re: Let's attempt Frank Slootweg's freeware solution for backing up Android to Windows arlen michael holder <arlen_michael_holder@example.com> - 2018-11-17 20:14 +0000
        [OT] How to use a 'news:' URL. (was: Let's attempt Frank Slootweg's freeware solution for backing up Android to Windows) Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-17 21:14 +0000
          Re: [OT] How to use a 'news:' URL. arlen michael holder <arlen_michael_holder@example.com> - 2018-11-17 22:54 +0000
            Re: [OT] How to use a 'news:' URL. Alek <alek.trishan@gmail.com> - 2018-11-17 19:53 -0500
              Re: [OT] How to use a 'news:' URL. "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-11-18 03:57 +0000
                Re: [OT] How to use a 'news:' URL. arlen michael holder <arlen_michael_holder@example.com> - 2018-11-18 16:14 +0000
                  Re: [OT] How to use a 'news:' URL. Alek <alek.trishan@gmail.com> - 2018-11-18 14:31 -0500
            Re: [OT] How to use a 'news:' URL. arlen michael holder <arlen_michael_holder@example.com> - 2018-11-18 03:27 +0000
            Re: [OT] How to use a 'news:' URL. Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-18 19:14 +0000
              Re: [OT] How to use a 'news:' URL. arlen michael holder <arlen_michael_holder@example.com> - 2018-11-19 03:39 +0000
                Re: [OT] How to use a 'news:' URL. Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-19 11:22 +0000
              Re: [OT] How to use a 'news:' URL. arlen michael holder <arlen_michael_holder@example.com> - 2018-11-19 03:52 +0000
          Re: [OT] How to use a 'news:' URL "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-18 21:54 +0100
            Re: [OT] How to use a 'news:' URL Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-19 12:13 +0000
              Re: [OT] How to use a 'news:' URL nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-19 08:45 -0500
              Re: [OT] How to use a 'news:' URL "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-19 15:49 +0100
                Re: [OT] How to use a 'news:' URL nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-19 10:13 -0500
                  Re: [OT] How to use a 'news:' URL Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2018-11-19 20:23 +0000
                  Re: [OT] How to use a 'news:' URL "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-20 12:12 +0100
                    Re: [OT] How to use a 'news:' URL nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-20 09:04 -0500
                      Re: [OT] How to use a 'news:' URL "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-21 14:59 +0100
                        Re: [OT] How to use a 'news:' URL Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2018-11-21 09:30 -0500
                          Re: [OT] How to use a 'news:' URL "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-21 23:08 +0100
                        Re: [OT] How to use a 'news:' URL nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-21 09:41 -0500
                          Re: [OT] How to use a 'news:' URL Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-21 10:02 -0500
                            Re: [OT] How to use a 'news:' URL nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-21 10:07 -0500
                              Re: [OT] How to use a 'news:' URL Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-21 10:18 -0500
                                Re: [OT] How to use a 'news:' URL nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-21 10:25 -0500
                                  Re: [OT] How to use a 'news:' URL Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-21 13:10 -0500
                                    Re: [OT] How to use a 'news:' URL nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-21 15:10 -0500
                                      Re: [OT] How to use a 'news:' URL Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-21 15:42 -0500
                                        Re: [OT] How to use a 'news:' URL nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-21 15:47 -0500
                                      Re: [OT] How to use a 'news:' URL Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-11-21 15:44 -0500
                                        Re: [OT] How to use a 'news:' URL Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-21 21:43 +0000
                                      Re: [OT] How to use a 'news:' URL "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-21 23:12 +0100
              Re: [OT] How to use a 'news:' URL Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-20 16:44 +0000
      Re: Let's attempt Frank Slootweg's freeware solution for backing up Android to Windows Alek <alek.trishan@gmail.com> - 2018-11-17 15:29 -0500
        Re: Let's attempt Frank Slootweg's freeware solution for backing up Android to Windows nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-17 15:34 -0500
          Re: Let's attempt Frank Slootweg's freeware solution for backing up Android to Windows "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-20 12:12 +0100
            Re: Let's attempt Frank Slootweg's freeware solution for backing up Android to Windows nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-20 09:04 -0500
        Re: Let's attempt Frank Slootweg's freeware solution for backing up Android to Windows Alek <alek.trishan@gmail.com> - 2018-11-17 15:39 -0500
        Re: Let's attempt Frank Slootweg's freeware solution for backing up Android to Windows Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-17 21:58 +0000
        Re: Let's attempt Frank Slootweg's freeware solution for backing up Android to Windows "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-20 12:15 +0100
        Re: Let's attempt Frank Slootweg's freeware solution for backing up Android to Windows Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2018-11-20 08:07 -0500
        Re: Let's attempt Frank Slootweg's freeware solution for backing up Android to Windows Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2018-11-20 08:21 -0500
          Re: Let's attempt Frank Slootweg's freeware solution for backing up Android to Windows Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-11-20 16:34 +0000
            Re: Let's attempt Frank Slootweg's freeware solution for backing up Android to Windows "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-21 15:04 +0100
              Re: Let's attempt Frank Slootweg's freeware solution for backing up Android to Windows "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-11-22 13:09 +0100

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#57689

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2018-11-20 12:12 +0100
Message-ID<iq6dcf-efo.ln1@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#57616
On 17/11/2018 21.34, nospam wrote:
> In article <psptmn$epv$1@dont-email.me>, Alek <alek.trishan@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>>>
>>>   You apparently missed - or don't remember - my recent (October 22)
>>> response to you about what I use to backup my Android devices, so here's
>>> the news URL of my post. And yes, it ticks all your boxes. Have fun.
>>>
>>> <news:pql56t.8k8.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>
>>
>> Not sure how to use this link.
> 
> click on it, and it will show the post.
> 
No, it won't.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#57695

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2018-11-20 09:04 -0500
Message-ID<201120180904386379%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#57689
In article <iq6dcf-efo.ln1@Telcontar.valinor>, Carlos E.R.
<robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

> >>>
> >>> <news:pql56t.8k8.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>
> >>
> >> Not sure how to use this link.
> > 
> > click on it, and it will show the post.
> > 
> No, it won't.

yes it does. the problem is your newsreader. replace it and problem
solved.

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#57618

FromAlek <alek.trishan@gmail.com>
Date2018-11-17 15:39 -0500
Message-ID<pspu9j$hj0$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#57615
Never mind. I found the 10/22 post.

Alek wrote on 11/17/2018 3:29 PM:
> Frank Slootweg wrote on 11/17/2018 9:48 AM:
>> 
>>   You apparently missed - or don't remember - my recent (October 22)
>> response to you about what I use to backup my Android devices, so here's
>> the news URL of my post. And yes, it ticks all your boxes. Have fun.
>> 
>> <news:pql56t.8k8.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>
> 
> Not sure how to use this link.
> 

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#57620

FromFrank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
Date2018-11-17 21:58 +0000
Message-ID<psq6do.860.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>
In reply to#57615
Alek <alek.trishan@gmail.com> wrote:
> Frank Slootweg wrote on 11/17/2018 9:48 AM:
> > 
> >   You apparently missed - or don't remember - my recent (October 22)
> > response to you about what I use to backup my Android devices, so here's
> > the news URL of my post. And yes, it ticks all your boxes. Have fun.
> > 
> > <news:pql56t.8k8.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>
> 
> Not sure how to use this link.

  I see that you've found the article, but for future use, see my "[OT]
How to use a 'news:' URL." response in this thread.

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#57690

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2018-11-20 12:15 +0100
Message-ID<pv6dcf-efo.ln1@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#57615
On 17/11/2018 21.29, Alek wrote:
> Frank Slootweg wrote on 11/17/2018 9:48 AM:
>>
>>   You apparently missed - or don't remember - my recent (October 22)
>> response to you about what I use to backup my Android devices, so here's
>> the news URL of my post. And yes, it ticks all your boxes. Have fun.
>>
>> <news:pql56t.8k8.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>
> 
> Not sure how to use this link.
> 

Go to Edit/Find/search messages, select "message-ID", then enter
the MID, and tick "run search on server" (an option I did not see years
before), then it does the search fast enough (my server is local).

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#57693

FromPaul <nospam@needed.invalid>
Date2018-11-20 08:07 -0500
Message-ID<pt10uv$qj4$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#57615
Alek wrote:
> Frank Slootweg wrote on 11/17/2018 9:48 AM:
>>   You apparently missed - or don't remember - my recent (October 22)
>> response to you about what I use to backup my Android devices, so here's
>> the news URL of my post. And yes, it ticks all your boxes. Have fun.
>>
>> <news:pql56t.8k8.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>
> 
> Not sure how to use this link.

<news:pql56t.8k8.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>

Adjust, leave delimiters on the outside.

    <pql56t.8k8.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>

Go to this website, and paste the modified string here.

http://al.howardknight.net/

This avoids details about your newsreader, to be doing it
on the web.

    Paul

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#57694

FromPaul <nospam@needed.invalid>
Date2018-11-20 08:21 -0500
Message-ID<pt11p2$vt9$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#57615
Alek wrote:
> Frank Slootweg wrote on 11/17/2018 9:48 AM:
>>   You apparently missed - or don't remember - my recent (October 22)
>> response to you about what I use to backup my Android devices, so here's
>> the news URL of my post. And yes, it ticks all your boxes. Have fun.
>>
>> <news:pql56t.8k8.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>
> 
> Not sure how to use this link.

Another way to do it:

Enter this URL in Seamonkey browser (which is a suite and
includes a news reader).

news://news.aioe.org:119/pql56t.8k8.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net

That syntax would work in Thunderbird... if we could figure
out a way to enter a URL :-) I haven't figured out where that
is hiding on TBird.

Maybe you could call TBird from the command line and do it
or something.

    Paul

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#57699

FromFrank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
Date2018-11-20 16:34 +0000
Message-ID<pt1gia.aoc.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>
In reply to#57694
Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
> Alek wrote:
> > Frank Slootweg wrote on 11/17/2018 9:48 AM:
> >>   You apparently missed - or don't remember - my recent (October 22)
> >> response to you about what I use to backup my Android devices, so here's
> >> the news URL of my post. And yes, it ticks all your boxes. Have fun.
> >>
> >> <news:pql56t.8k8.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>
> > 
> > Not sure how to use this link.
> 
> Another way to do it:
> 
> Enter this URL in Seamonkey browser (which is a suite and
> includes a news reader).
> 
> news://news.aioe.org:119/pql56t.8k8.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net
> 
> That syntax would work in Thunderbird... if we could figure
> out a way to enter a URL :-) I haven't figured out where that
> is hiding on TBird.
> 
> Maybe you could call TBird from the command line and do it
> or something.

  This *used* to work 'in' Thunderbird as well, but - as I mentioned in
another response -, currently Thunderbird seems (is?) broken and
probably has been broken for years. (The last time I checked (and
documented) this was in June 2008.)

  I say 'in' (Thunderbird), because you couldn't *enter* such a URL in
TB, because it doesn't have a box to enter it in.

  The 'trick' was to enter the URL into your (web)*browser*, i.e. mostly
IE and then IE would know that it should pass the URL to TB, which would
then execute it and - in this case - show the article.

  The News server part of the URL was not needed, because it would
default to whichever server was configured in TB, i.e. just

news:pql56t.8k8.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net

exactly like in my first post about this.

  But - as I said -, currently 'news:' URLs don't work anymore in TB, at
least not for me, also not after several hours Googling numerous
dead-ends.

  The only - totally useless - part which I now have 'working' (on
Windows 8.1) is that if I enter a 'news:' URL - *any*  'news:' URL, also
a wrong one - in Chrome (the browser), Chrome will start Thunderbird (if
it wasn't already running). But it does not even go to the News part of
TB, let alone that it executes any specific part of the URL, i.e. for
the above example, it does *not* open/show the desired article.

  Did I already mention "totall useless"!? I probably did. Sigh!

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#57719

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2018-11-21 15:04 +0100
Message-ID<795gcf-d09.ln1@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#57699
On 20/11/2018 17.34, Frank Slootweg wrote:

>   But - as I said -, currently 'news:' URLs don't work anymore in TB, at
> least not for me, also not after several hours Googling numerous
> dead-ends.

You have to enter the messageid in "search messages" (ctrl-shift-F)
instead (it works fast, there is probably an index). I don't know if
there is a way to call this from outside.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#57779

From"Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2018-11-22 13:09 +0100
Message-ID<g5nkj5Fitj6U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#57719
On 21/11/2018 15.04, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 20/11/2018 17.34, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> 
>>   But - as I said -, currently 'news:' URLs don't work anymore in TB, at
>> least not for me, also not after several hours Googling numerous
>> dead-ends.
> 
> You have to enter the messageid in "search messages" (ctrl-shift-F)
> instead (it works fast, there is probably an index). I don't know if
> there is a way to call this from outside.

I tried on another machine, and there I had to Customize the search
field and add another header, Message-Id. And it worked.

-- 
Cheers,
       Carlos E.R.

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